This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
The next
Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, November 9th 2022 at 17:00 UTC (18:00 Berlin time) in the
Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Wikidata Working Hour October 24, 2022: ninth Wikidata Working Hour in the series will be batch loading data using QuickStatements to create items for works and editions in Wikidata. You are, as always, welcome to bring your own data to work on. All sessions in our project series will be recorded for those who cannot attend. Links will be added to the event page when available.
Event page
The Biodiversity Information Standards annual conference (
TDWG 2022) took place from 17-21 October in Sofia, Bulgaria, and online. It included a
session about the role of the Wikimedia ecosystem in linking biodiversity data, which featured
six talks, all of which with strong Wikidata components. Slides and/ or video recordings are already available for some (more to follow):
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
There have been some minor visual fixes in Special:Search, regarding audio player alignment and image placeholder height. Further details are in
T319230.
On Wikipedias, a new
preference has been added to hide article thumbnails in Special:Search. Full details are in
T320337.
Problems
Last week, three wikis (French Wikipedia, Japanese Wikipedia, Russian Wikipedia) had read-only access for 25 minutes. This was caused by a hardware problem.
[1]
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 October. It will be on all wikis from 27 October (
calendar).
Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 25 October at 07:00 UTC (
targeted wikis) and on 27 October at 7:00 UTC (
targeted wikis).
Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "
Add a link" (Assamese Wikipedia, Bashkir Wikipedia, Balinese Wikipedia, Bavarian Wikipedia, Samogitian Wikipedia, Bikol Central Wikipedia, Belarusian Wikipedia, Belarusian (Taraškievica) Wikipedia, Bulgarian Wikipedia, Bhojpuri Wikipedia, Bislama Wikipedia, Banjar Wikipedia, Bambara Wikipedia, Bishnupriya Wikipedia, Breton Wikipedia, Bosnian Wikipedia, Buginese Wikipedia, Buryat Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia). This is part of the
progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can
configure how this feature works locally.
[2]
Pages with titles that start with a lower-case letter according to Unicode 11 will be renamed or deleted. There is a list of affected pages at
m:Unicode 11 case map migration. More information can be found at
T292552.
The Vector 2022 skin will become the default across the smallest Wikipedias.
Learn more.
I kept seeing
Category:17th-century British literature and
Category:Gladiators (UK TV series) on the nightly
Empty Categories list and I finally looked at them again tonight. I found you had closed the CFDs that involved these categories yesterday. Is there a reason that you didn't tag these categories for deletion after you closed the CFDs? They were already emptied so they didn't require any removal of pages/categories by a bot.
You and Marco use to do this when you were done closing CFDs but for some reason, over the past month or so, I never see categories deleted through CFDs come up as uncontroversial deletions, CSD G6, any more. Was there some problem with how you were handling these closures? Because I thought that it was a very efficient system. LizRead!Talk!01:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Implementation of rename for Category:Volcanoes of the New Zealand seabed
Hi. The
CFD for Category:Volcanoes of the New Zealand seabed was closed as rename several days ago. I'm not sure of the process from here. How/when does it get implemented? Is it in progress, or is there a step that has been delayed, or is someone else responsible? Sorry for not being familiar with the process. Thanks.
Nurg (
talk)
04:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call November 1, 2022: Egon Willighagen (
d:User:Egonw) on SARS-CoV-2 queries, a a well-documented series of Wikidata queries around the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the pandemic. This work contributes to
d:Wikidata:Wikiproject COVID-19 and documentation is currently available in Japanese, Dutch, Spanish, and Portuguese.
Agenda.
Some additional materials have been made available from the
Wikimedia session at the Biodiversity Information Standards annual conference (
TDWG 2022) that took place from 17-21 October in Sofia, Bulgaria, and online:
sparklis (
source) : query builder in natural language that allows people to explore and query SPARQL endpoints with all the power of SPARQL and without any knowledge of SPARQL, nor of the endpoint vocabulary.
✨ Other Noteworthy Stuff
Word Finder is a tool based on Wikidata Lexemes that solves anagrams and find missing letters in crosswords.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
When using keyboard navigation on a
Kartographer map, the focus will become more visible.
[7]
In Special:RecentChanges, you can now hide the log entries for new user creations with the filter for "⧼rcfilters-filter-newuserlogactions-label⧽".
[8]
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 November. It will be on all wikis from 3 November (
calendar).
The
maps dialog in VisualEditor now has some help texts.
[9]
It is now possible to select the language of a
Kartographer map in VisualEditor via a dropdown menu.
[10]
It is now possible to add a caption to a
Kartographer map in VisualEditor.
[11]
It is now possible to hide the frame of a
Kartographer map in VisualEditor.
[12]
An
RfC is open to discuss having open
requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a
bureaucrat.
Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like {{
rangeblock|create=yes}} or {{
uw-ublock|contains profanity}}.
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Wikidata Working Hour November 7, 2022: tenth and final Wikidata Working Hour in the series will be using SPARQL to query and visualize the data we’ve added to Wikidata during our series. You are, as always, welcome to bring your own data to work on. All sessions in our project series will be recorded for those who cannot attend. Links will be added to the event page when available.
Event page
Wikidata and Wikibase office hour, taking place online on November 9th at 17:00 UTC (
more details here)
Raising an Artist Profile with Wikidata: Thursday November 10, 2022 at 20:00 UTC (Session A) and 23:00 UTC (Session B). This free, step-by-step Wikidata workshop will focus mainly on Indigenous artists. Participants may choose to attend either Session A or Session B: both will cover the exact same material.
Wikidata editathon in Swedish with focus on climate politics and COP27, online and in Stockholm, 11 November 13.00-18.00 UTC
A Hands-On Introduction to Wikidata: Thursday December 1, 2022 at 17:00 UTC. By the end of this session, you will be able to edit Wikidata records about the cultural venues that matter most to you.
Lexicographical data: Replaced the old Special:NewLexeme page with the new one (
phab:T307866) - a few remaining issues will still be fixed
Vue 3: Almost finished the Vue 3 migration in Wikibase and WikibaseLexeme (
phab:T321595 and (
phab:T304534) - this is needed for finalizing the migration in MediaWiki overall
Mismatch Finder: Worked on improving the handling of dates (
phab:T288511)
Search: Working with the WMF on making the new Vue-based Vector search understand Wikidata (
phab:T316093)), especially regarding “load more” behavior
REST API:
Continued improving error reporting for PATCH routes (
phab:T320358)
Ensuring that the API correctly marks bot edits as bot edits and treats them as such in various other places
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
An updated version of the
Event Registration tool is now available for testing at
testwiki and
test2wiki. The tool provides features for event organizers and participants. Your feedback is welcome at our
project talkpage. More information about
the project is available.
[13]
Problems
Twice last week, for about 45 minutes, some files and thumbnails failed to load and uploads failed, mostly for logged-in users. The cause is being investigated and an incident report will be available soon.
This empty category is tagged with a CFD tag that makes it appear to be part of a CFD discussion you closed but I don't see this category in the bundled list. Do you have any ideas of what's going on here? Thanks. LizRead!Talk!01:12, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi
Liz, looks like
Hemiauchenia didn't add this to the list after tagging it for discussion, presumably by mistake. I assume it only contained subcats that were deleted due to that discussion, so you can probably just delete it. —
Qwerfjkltalk01:18, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Yes, it's not unambiguous as a reference to the
unduly lenient sentence scheme. But it's also presently a redlink, so it's not helping anyone resolve what it means in any context at all. If someone comes along and writes articles for those other uses (or expands articles, or realises that existing articles already cover those other uses, etc), they can turn the redirect into a disambig as and when; in the meantime, the redirect would be serving a useful purpose to readers. Wikipedia's malleable and we don't need to get it absolutely perfect the first time; we can fix things up and improve them, and make incremental changes that are better than nothing. So, will you please create the redirect, as suggested, so that readers can get some value, even if it's not the absolutely platonic perfect result that an encyclopaedia with infinite resources would have?
80.7.186.76 (
talk)
15:34, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Search would be useless in this case, as the acronym isn't used in the article (I wrote it talking about 'the scheme'). I also don't see where
WP:REDLINK covers this situation - could you please quote the part that you find relevant?
80.7.186.76 (
talk)
16:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm not going to add it to the article because there's nothing it adds to the article qua article, and adding it just so that it shows up when people try looking for 'ULSS' is very silly when there's the option of just creating a redirect. But a disambig is actually natural here because the extant on-wiki targets are
unduly lenient sentence scheme,
Rzhevka Airport and
Ultra-large-scale systems and a cross-wiki link to
wikt:ULSS; as you noted originally, it's an ambiguous initialism. Would you create that, please? As a lowly IP, I can't do it myself.
80.7.186.76 (
talk)
17:11, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call November 15, 2022: We will be discussing the first Wikidata Affinity Group Working Hour series, which ran from July to early November of this year. We will offer visualizations based on our data, listen to some of our volunteers talk about their experience helping to build the series, and discuss the results of our participant survey. We want to hear your questions and suggestions for future series!
Agenda
Enrichissement des données sur la danse: Wednesday 16 November at 6:30 pm UTC (Session A) and Thursday 17 November at 6:30 pm UTC (Session B). Join the Regroupement québécois de la danse (RQD) and the Linked Digital Future Initiative (LDFI) for two dynamic sessions focusing on dance data. Session A will focus on artists, while Session B will focus on organizations and dance companies. Note: These sessions are offered in French only.
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
The next
Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, November 9th 2022 at 17:00 UTC (18:00 Berlin time) in the
Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Wikidata Working Hour October 24, 2022: ninth Wikidata Working Hour in the series will be batch loading data using QuickStatements to create items for works and editions in Wikidata. You are, as always, welcome to bring your own data to work on. All sessions in our project series will be recorded for those who cannot attend. Links will be added to the event page when available.
Event page
The Biodiversity Information Standards annual conference (
TDWG 2022) took place from 17-21 October in Sofia, Bulgaria, and online. It included a
session about the role of the Wikimedia ecosystem in linking biodiversity data, which featured
six talks, all of which with strong Wikidata components. Slides and/ or video recordings are already available for some (more to follow):
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
There have been some minor visual fixes in Special:Search, regarding audio player alignment and image placeholder height. Further details are in
T319230.
On Wikipedias, a new
preference has been added to hide article thumbnails in Special:Search. Full details are in
T320337.
Problems
Last week, three wikis (French Wikipedia, Japanese Wikipedia, Russian Wikipedia) had read-only access for 25 minutes. This was caused by a hardware problem.
[1]
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 October. It will be on all wikis from 27 October (
calendar).
Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 25 October at 07:00 UTC (
targeted wikis) and on 27 October at 7:00 UTC (
targeted wikis).
Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "
Add a link" (Assamese Wikipedia, Bashkir Wikipedia, Balinese Wikipedia, Bavarian Wikipedia, Samogitian Wikipedia, Bikol Central Wikipedia, Belarusian Wikipedia, Belarusian (Taraškievica) Wikipedia, Bulgarian Wikipedia, Bhojpuri Wikipedia, Bislama Wikipedia, Banjar Wikipedia, Bambara Wikipedia, Bishnupriya Wikipedia, Breton Wikipedia, Bosnian Wikipedia, Buginese Wikipedia, Buryat Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia). This is part of the
progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can
configure how this feature works locally.
[2]
Pages with titles that start with a lower-case letter according to Unicode 11 will be renamed or deleted. There is a list of affected pages at
m:Unicode 11 case map migration. More information can be found at
T292552.
The Vector 2022 skin will become the default across the smallest Wikipedias.
Learn more.
I kept seeing
Category:17th-century British literature and
Category:Gladiators (UK TV series) on the nightly
Empty Categories list and I finally looked at them again tonight. I found you had closed the CFDs that involved these categories yesterday. Is there a reason that you didn't tag these categories for deletion after you closed the CFDs? They were already emptied so they didn't require any removal of pages/categories by a bot.
You and Marco use to do this when you were done closing CFDs but for some reason, over the past month or so, I never see categories deleted through CFDs come up as uncontroversial deletions, CSD G6, any more. Was there some problem with how you were handling these closures? Because I thought that it was a very efficient system. LizRead!Talk!01:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Implementation of rename for Category:Volcanoes of the New Zealand seabed
Hi. The
CFD for Category:Volcanoes of the New Zealand seabed was closed as rename several days ago. I'm not sure of the process from here. How/when does it get implemented? Is it in progress, or is there a step that has been delayed, or is someone else responsible? Sorry for not being familiar with the process. Thanks.
Nurg (
talk)
04:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call November 1, 2022: Egon Willighagen (
d:User:Egonw) on SARS-CoV-2 queries, a a well-documented series of Wikidata queries around the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the pandemic. This work contributes to
d:Wikidata:Wikiproject COVID-19 and documentation is currently available in Japanese, Dutch, Spanish, and Portuguese.
Agenda.
Some additional materials have been made available from the
Wikimedia session at the Biodiversity Information Standards annual conference (
TDWG 2022) that took place from 17-21 October in Sofia, Bulgaria, and online:
sparklis (
source) : query builder in natural language that allows people to explore and query SPARQL endpoints with all the power of SPARQL and without any knowledge of SPARQL, nor of the endpoint vocabulary.
✨ Other Noteworthy Stuff
Word Finder is a tool based on Wikidata Lexemes that solves anagrams and find missing letters in crosswords.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
When using keyboard navigation on a
Kartographer map, the focus will become more visible.
[7]
In Special:RecentChanges, you can now hide the log entries for new user creations with the filter for "⧼rcfilters-filter-newuserlogactions-label⧽".
[8]
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 November. It will be on all wikis from 3 November (
calendar).
The
maps dialog in VisualEditor now has some help texts.
[9]
It is now possible to select the language of a
Kartographer map in VisualEditor via a dropdown menu.
[10]
It is now possible to add a caption to a
Kartographer map in VisualEditor.
[11]
It is now possible to hide the frame of a
Kartographer map in VisualEditor.
[12]
An
RfC is open to discuss having open
requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a
bureaucrat.
Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like {{
rangeblock|create=yes}} or {{
uw-ublock|contains profanity}}.
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Wikidata Working Hour November 7, 2022: tenth and final Wikidata Working Hour in the series will be using SPARQL to query and visualize the data we’ve added to Wikidata during our series. You are, as always, welcome to bring your own data to work on. All sessions in our project series will be recorded for those who cannot attend. Links will be added to the event page when available.
Event page
Wikidata and Wikibase office hour, taking place online on November 9th at 17:00 UTC (
more details here)
Raising an Artist Profile with Wikidata: Thursday November 10, 2022 at 20:00 UTC (Session A) and 23:00 UTC (Session B). This free, step-by-step Wikidata workshop will focus mainly on Indigenous artists. Participants may choose to attend either Session A or Session B: both will cover the exact same material.
Wikidata editathon in Swedish with focus on climate politics and COP27, online and in Stockholm, 11 November 13.00-18.00 UTC
A Hands-On Introduction to Wikidata: Thursday December 1, 2022 at 17:00 UTC. By the end of this session, you will be able to edit Wikidata records about the cultural venues that matter most to you.
Lexicographical data: Replaced the old Special:NewLexeme page with the new one (
phab:T307866) - a few remaining issues will still be fixed
Vue 3: Almost finished the Vue 3 migration in Wikibase and WikibaseLexeme (
phab:T321595 and (
phab:T304534) - this is needed for finalizing the migration in MediaWiki overall
Mismatch Finder: Worked on improving the handling of dates (
phab:T288511)
Search: Working with the WMF on making the new Vue-based Vector search understand Wikidata (
phab:T316093)), especially regarding “load more” behavior
REST API:
Continued improving error reporting for PATCH routes (
phab:T320358)
Ensuring that the API correctly marks bot edits as bot edits and treats them as such in various other places
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
An updated version of the
Event Registration tool is now available for testing at
testwiki and
test2wiki. The tool provides features for event organizers and participants. Your feedback is welcome at our
project talkpage. More information about
the project is available.
[13]
Problems
Twice last week, for about 45 minutes, some files and thumbnails failed to load and uploads failed, mostly for logged-in users. The cause is being investigated and an incident report will be available soon.
This empty category is tagged with a CFD tag that makes it appear to be part of a CFD discussion you closed but I don't see this category in the bundled list. Do you have any ideas of what's going on here? Thanks. LizRead!Talk!01:12, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi
Liz, looks like
Hemiauchenia didn't add this to the list after tagging it for discussion, presumably by mistake. I assume it only contained subcats that were deleted due to that discussion, so you can probably just delete it. —
Qwerfjkltalk01:18, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Yes, it's not unambiguous as a reference to the
unduly lenient sentence scheme. But it's also presently a redlink, so it's not helping anyone resolve what it means in any context at all. If someone comes along and writes articles for those other uses (or expands articles, or realises that existing articles already cover those other uses, etc), they can turn the redirect into a disambig as and when; in the meantime, the redirect would be serving a useful purpose to readers. Wikipedia's malleable and we don't need to get it absolutely perfect the first time; we can fix things up and improve them, and make incremental changes that are better than nothing. So, will you please create the redirect, as suggested, so that readers can get some value, even if it's not the absolutely platonic perfect result that an encyclopaedia with infinite resources would have?
80.7.186.76 (
talk)
15:34, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Search would be useless in this case, as the acronym isn't used in the article (I wrote it talking about 'the scheme'). I also don't see where
WP:REDLINK covers this situation - could you please quote the part that you find relevant?
80.7.186.76 (
talk)
16:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm not going to add it to the article because there's nothing it adds to the article qua article, and adding it just so that it shows up when people try looking for 'ULSS' is very silly when there's the option of just creating a redirect. But a disambig is actually natural here because the extant on-wiki targets are
unduly lenient sentence scheme,
Rzhevka Airport and
Ultra-large-scale systems and a cross-wiki link to
wikt:ULSS; as you noted originally, it's an ambiguous initialism. Would you create that, please? As a lowly IP, I can't do it myself.
80.7.186.76 (
talk)
17:11, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call November 15, 2022: We will be discussing the first Wikidata Affinity Group Working Hour series, which ran from July to early November of this year. We will offer visualizations based on our data, listen to some of our volunteers talk about their experience helping to build the series, and discuss the results of our participant survey. We want to hear your questions and suggestions for future series!
Agenda
Enrichissement des données sur la danse: Wednesday 16 November at 6:30 pm UTC (Session A) and Thursday 17 November at 6:30 pm UTC (Session B). Join the Regroupement québécois de la danse (RQD) and the Linked Digital Future Initiative (LDFI) for two dynamic sessions focusing on dance data. Session A will focus on artists, while Session B will focus on organizations and dance companies. Note: These sessions are offered in French only.