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I'm afraid that the request for arbitration you opened regarding the Gaza strip edit war was premature and inappropriate. May I suggest that you familiarise yourself with the Wikipedia dispute resolution process, and that you consider withdrawing the arbitration request, which is bound to be rejected. (You don't go running to the supreme court with every classroom spat).-- woggly 09:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
You may be surprised to know that according to the current debate on inflation you are very fringe. Carbonate 10:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I just work on categories and copyedits. Sometimes, I see things that look out of place/wrong and I bring them up. That's all I do. Nothing exciting. Thanks Hmains 02:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Hallo!
Ich schreib dir in Deutsch, weil du es offenbar schreiben und lesen kannst. Ich habe mir erlaubt, den Westbahnhof-Artikel bezüglich des "Ungezieferbefalls" zu ergänzen. Falls ich dich richtig verstanden habe, wusstest du nicht, was damit gemeint war. Das Wort "infestation" hattest du ja schon geschrieben und "Ungeziefer" lässt sich mit dem Wort "vermin" übersetzen. Alles klar? Wenn nicht, beantworte ich dir gern weitere Fragen über meine Diskussionseite. - der Polizist
The article had reached a point where it was deviating significantly from "Neutral Point of View", particularly both the introduction and significant sections of the body. I can certainly understand being disheartened at losing work, however, there was no way to clean up everything without reverting back to a "last reasonably good version" and working forward from there.
One reason I reverted the edits you made however was this one section in particular:
International gold standards don't require intergovernmental payments be made in the gold standard - for example the Renaissance saw an international gold standard because banks used particular fineness of coinage, in order to allow trade settlement to occur. During the 1500-1800 period, formal transport of governmental gold or silver reserves to pay off national accounts was not the means by which international gold (or silver in many cases) standards were imposed, but instead by the relative market prices of different coins or notes, often set either by banks or internally by a government (for example Newton's assay). With settlement in a standard coin, particularly for bills of trade, the effect is to standardize convertible value, even, or often especially, in the absence of government reserves being transfered. Governments often ended up responding to bleeding coinage in wake of such adjustments by ending the circulation of gold or silver coins, and issuing notes instead which reduced the ability of specie to flee a particular nation. Stirling Newberry 19:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The group seems to be notable enough to warrant inclusion - and that is what is important, not whether it makes the advocates for a particular point of view look good or bad. Stirling Newberry 19:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Look forward to your further work on the article. Stirling Newberry 21:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
I would advise that you be less hostile, and far less POV in your edits. I would also advise that you not associate with trolls, particularly people who troll off of wikipedia. This is a collegial enterprise, based on coöperation and an attempt to reflect the diverse body of opinion and argument over various subjects. So far people have been accepting of the fact you are new, and it does take time for people to get used to wikipedia. Lots of great editors had rough entries into wikipedia. You might want to talk with user Mel Ettis about this, as he is a good editor from an academic background who has no particular ideological axe to grind. There are lots of others as well.
Good luck in editting wikipedia.
Stirling Newberry 23:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
[1] Sorry for the typo.
And a note about internet text dialog. ALL CAPS IS SHOUTING. Stirling Newberry 03:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Turner has been blocked for making personal attacks. I'm assuming you (Joe) are making edits in good faith and simply want to improve the quality of the 'pedia. Stirling Newberry 03:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
No pleading was required, you haven't done anything wrong as such, just the normal learning curve of the vast subculture which is wikipedia. It is pretty easy to stay on the good side of wikipedia - just make good edits, write new articles in a well researched NPOV style, and people will rapidly notice. This is particularly true of people who turn stubs into important articles or have a talent for finding language which resolves different view points in a way that reaches consensus. Stirling Newberry 02:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Please desist with the accusations of bad faith. And please try to be more accurate and less POV in your edits. So far you seem to desire making working on this page unpleasant, and have hurled a series of attacks and insults that is beginning to go beyond the realm of discussion and into the realm of incivility. Stirling Newberry 03:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm attempting to clean up the "Nazi Germany" gold issue from the [Gold Standard] article, as that belongs in an article about the Economic History of Nazi Germany, not an article about an economic issue. Stirling Newberry has reverted the edits of various editors five times in less than 24 hours, and I reported him for a 3RR violation. Could you please assist in this matter? I'm trying to work towards a consensus, but I am unable to even post to Stirling Newberry's talk page. Thank you 87.19.140.175 20:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
The facts speak for themselves - you've removed notable citable material. You've consorted with someone who splayed sockpuppets and harassment. Your edits have often been inaccurate. Yet you persist in lecturing me. Please cease to do this, it is uncollegial.
BTW:
87.19.140.175 resolves to "host175-140-dynamic.19-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
Stirling Newberry 17:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Your question ("Do you feel that the conclusions of science are of sufficient confidence and strength to justify government action to enforce behavioral changes for the purpose of influencing climate change?") seems to be full of unstated assumption, making it very hard to answer in a non-misleading way! I have a lot of trust in the quality of the global warming consensus (i.e. the IPCC report, refined by later work). I think it warrants gouvernment action. But I don't think gouvernment action should "force" behavioral changes, but rather support and encourage them (i.e. by long-term and deterministically increasing taxation on fossil fuel use, offset by subventions for cleaner solutions). The market is excellent at optimising economic behaviour, but gouvernments should set the conditions that optimal economic behaviour coincides with the common good (i.e. by putting a fair price on the use common resources like the ocean or the atmosphere to avoid the tragedy of the commons). With respect to your question, I suspect I would fall into what you think is the "yes" category, but strictly speaking I would have to answer "no". -- Stephan Schulz 18:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
A year ago, the article was a mess of political polemic. Since then, it has had a good cleanup. Looking at your involvement in the article on the Gold Standard, I suspect you can guess what I mean. Yes, I agree that it should be called 'Fiat Money'. If you can find a friendly local admin to change it, you have my support. [You can't just do a move as there is an existing redirect there]. -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 21:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Interesting, but such a comment really belongs at Talk:Operation Reinhard. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:01, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you do, you may be blocked for disruption. See the blocking policy. Will Beback talk 04:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you restore this material to the article or its talk page once more, you will be blocked for disruption. See Blocking policy: Biographies of living people. Will Beback talk 10:55, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Will Beback, I know better than to be cowed by your spurious threats of blockage. Please desist from putting scary graphics on my Talk page. I have requested adjudication of your allegation that Yeshiva World News is not a reliable source.-- Joe ( talk) 18:44, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Unlike Will, I consider a proper description of this appropriate for the page of Hikind; he has after all taken credit for it publicly, according to two acceptable sources. I disagree about your characterization of it as defamatory. How can it be: he seems to have issued a press release lauding his role in it.
Unlike Yossiea, I consider YWN an adequate source to used along with the Daily News for this material. I am not sure whether I would accept it as the sole source, but it is only one of two and can be used to support the other. I have restored it to the article. The place for further discussion is either the BLKP or the RS noticeboard, whether about this, or about blocking.
But, Joe, if you try to add this incident to the articles for the other signers of the letter other than H, then I will certainly oppose that as undue weight, unless, again, there are multiple significant 3rd party sources discussing their involvement specifically. The relevant Wikipedia policy, besides BLP, is NOT SOAPBOX. Don't try this, or you will indeed be blocked, & you may find yourself losing the support from others you may otherwise have. An excess of zeal is not a virtue.
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I am giving up (for now) on the new article "Financial Censorship," though I may try again when I've gathered more examples and sources.
Likewise, I mean to give up on editing the twelve articles on New York politicians who do not seem to have sought or encouraged publicity for what now must be regarded as an underhanded move that they didn't want to get caught at. I do plan to list the twelve in Hikind's article, with links, of course, to the ten who have Wikipedia articles.
I anticipate a long series of back-and-forths between me and Hikind's watchdogs as to exactly how the matter is portrayed in his article. It will be as long as you make it. It is censorship, whether Hikind chose to stick the label on himself or not. David Irving denies being a "Holocaust denier," yet everyone freely pastes that label on him and no one has succeeded in keeping it off him. I would try if I thought I could.
More back-and-forth seems likely to continue when I introduce this incident into the main article on Censorship as an example of (insert descriptor of your choice) censorship. Everyone's invited to c'mon over!-- Joe ( talk) 02:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Financial Censorship, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Financial Censorship. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
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Welcome!
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Tapir Terrific
16:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid that the request for arbitration you opened regarding the Gaza strip edit war was premature and inappropriate. May I suggest that you familiarise yourself with the Wikipedia dispute resolution process, and that you consider withdrawing the arbitration request, which is bound to be rejected. (You don't go running to the supreme court with every classroom spat).-- woggly 09:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
You may be surprised to know that according to the current debate on inflation you are very fringe. Carbonate 10:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I just work on categories and copyedits. Sometimes, I see things that look out of place/wrong and I bring them up. That's all I do. Nothing exciting. Thanks Hmains 02:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Hallo!
Ich schreib dir in Deutsch, weil du es offenbar schreiben und lesen kannst. Ich habe mir erlaubt, den Westbahnhof-Artikel bezüglich des "Ungezieferbefalls" zu ergänzen. Falls ich dich richtig verstanden habe, wusstest du nicht, was damit gemeint war. Das Wort "infestation" hattest du ja schon geschrieben und "Ungeziefer" lässt sich mit dem Wort "vermin" übersetzen. Alles klar? Wenn nicht, beantworte ich dir gern weitere Fragen über meine Diskussionseite. - der Polizist
The article had reached a point where it was deviating significantly from "Neutral Point of View", particularly both the introduction and significant sections of the body. I can certainly understand being disheartened at losing work, however, there was no way to clean up everything without reverting back to a "last reasonably good version" and working forward from there.
One reason I reverted the edits you made however was this one section in particular:
International gold standards don't require intergovernmental payments be made in the gold standard - for example the Renaissance saw an international gold standard because banks used particular fineness of coinage, in order to allow trade settlement to occur. During the 1500-1800 period, formal transport of governmental gold or silver reserves to pay off national accounts was not the means by which international gold (or silver in many cases) standards were imposed, but instead by the relative market prices of different coins or notes, often set either by banks or internally by a government (for example Newton's assay). With settlement in a standard coin, particularly for bills of trade, the effect is to standardize convertible value, even, or often especially, in the absence of government reserves being transfered. Governments often ended up responding to bleeding coinage in wake of such adjustments by ending the circulation of gold or silver coins, and issuing notes instead which reduced the ability of specie to flee a particular nation. Stirling Newberry 19:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The group seems to be notable enough to warrant inclusion - and that is what is important, not whether it makes the advocates for a particular point of view look good or bad. Stirling Newberry 19:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Look forward to your further work on the article. Stirling Newberry 21:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
I would advise that you be less hostile, and far less POV in your edits. I would also advise that you not associate with trolls, particularly people who troll off of wikipedia. This is a collegial enterprise, based on coöperation and an attempt to reflect the diverse body of opinion and argument over various subjects. So far people have been accepting of the fact you are new, and it does take time for people to get used to wikipedia. Lots of great editors had rough entries into wikipedia. You might want to talk with user Mel Ettis about this, as he is a good editor from an academic background who has no particular ideological axe to grind. There are lots of others as well.
Good luck in editting wikipedia.
Stirling Newberry 23:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
[1] Sorry for the typo.
And a note about internet text dialog. ALL CAPS IS SHOUTING. Stirling Newberry 03:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Turner has been blocked for making personal attacks. I'm assuming you (Joe) are making edits in good faith and simply want to improve the quality of the 'pedia. Stirling Newberry 03:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
No pleading was required, you haven't done anything wrong as such, just the normal learning curve of the vast subculture which is wikipedia. It is pretty easy to stay on the good side of wikipedia - just make good edits, write new articles in a well researched NPOV style, and people will rapidly notice. This is particularly true of people who turn stubs into important articles or have a talent for finding language which resolves different view points in a way that reaches consensus. Stirling Newberry 02:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Please desist with the accusations of bad faith. And please try to be more accurate and less POV in your edits. So far you seem to desire making working on this page unpleasant, and have hurled a series of attacks and insults that is beginning to go beyond the realm of discussion and into the realm of incivility. Stirling Newberry 03:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm attempting to clean up the "Nazi Germany" gold issue from the [Gold Standard] article, as that belongs in an article about the Economic History of Nazi Germany, not an article about an economic issue. Stirling Newberry has reverted the edits of various editors five times in less than 24 hours, and I reported him for a 3RR violation. Could you please assist in this matter? I'm trying to work towards a consensus, but I am unable to even post to Stirling Newberry's talk page. Thank you 87.19.140.175 20:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
The facts speak for themselves - you've removed notable citable material. You've consorted with someone who splayed sockpuppets and harassment. Your edits have often been inaccurate. Yet you persist in lecturing me. Please cease to do this, it is uncollegial.
BTW:
87.19.140.175 resolves to "host175-140-dynamic.19-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
Stirling Newberry 17:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Your question ("Do you feel that the conclusions of science are of sufficient confidence and strength to justify government action to enforce behavioral changes for the purpose of influencing climate change?") seems to be full of unstated assumption, making it very hard to answer in a non-misleading way! I have a lot of trust in the quality of the global warming consensus (i.e. the IPCC report, refined by later work). I think it warrants gouvernment action. But I don't think gouvernment action should "force" behavioral changes, but rather support and encourage them (i.e. by long-term and deterministically increasing taxation on fossil fuel use, offset by subventions for cleaner solutions). The market is excellent at optimising economic behaviour, but gouvernments should set the conditions that optimal economic behaviour coincides with the common good (i.e. by putting a fair price on the use common resources like the ocean or the atmosphere to avoid the tragedy of the commons). With respect to your question, I suspect I would fall into what you think is the "yes" category, but strictly speaking I would have to answer "no". -- Stephan Schulz 18:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
A year ago, the article was a mess of political polemic. Since then, it has had a good cleanup. Looking at your involvement in the article on the Gold Standard, I suspect you can guess what I mean. Yes, I agree that it should be called 'Fiat Money'. If you can find a friendly local admin to change it, you have my support. [You can't just do a move as there is an existing redirect there]. -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 21:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Interesting, but such a comment really belongs at Talk:Operation Reinhard. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:01, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you do, you may be blocked for disruption. See the blocking policy. Will Beback talk 04:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you restore this material to the article or its talk page once more, you will be blocked for disruption. See Blocking policy: Biographies of living people. Will Beback talk 10:55, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Will Beback, I know better than to be cowed by your spurious threats of blockage. Please desist from putting scary graphics on my Talk page. I have requested adjudication of your allegation that Yeshiva World News is not a reliable source.-- Joe ( talk) 18:44, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Unlike Will, I consider a proper description of this appropriate for the page of Hikind; he has after all taken credit for it publicly, according to two acceptable sources. I disagree about your characterization of it as defamatory. How can it be: he seems to have issued a press release lauding his role in it.
Unlike Yossiea, I consider YWN an adequate source to used along with the Daily News for this material. I am not sure whether I would accept it as the sole source, but it is only one of two and can be used to support the other. I have restored it to the article. The place for further discussion is either the BLKP or the RS noticeboard, whether about this, or about blocking.
But, Joe, if you try to add this incident to the articles for the other signers of the letter other than H, then I will certainly oppose that as undue weight, unless, again, there are multiple significant 3rd party sources discussing their involvement specifically. The relevant Wikipedia policy, besides BLP, is NOT SOAPBOX. Don't try this, or you will indeed be blocked, & you may find yourself losing the support from others you may otherwise have. An excess of zeal is not a virtue.
DGG (
talk )
20:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I am giving up (for now) on the new article "Financial Censorship," though I may try again when I've gathered more examples and sources.
Likewise, I mean to give up on editing the twelve articles on New York politicians who do not seem to have sought or encouraged publicity for what now must be regarded as an underhanded move that they didn't want to get caught at. I do plan to list the twelve in Hikind's article, with links, of course, to the ten who have Wikipedia articles.
I anticipate a long series of back-and-forths between me and Hikind's watchdogs as to exactly how the matter is portrayed in his article. It will be as long as you make it. It is censorship, whether Hikind chose to stick the label on himself or not. David Irving denies being a "Holocaust denier," yet everyone freely pastes that label on him and no one has succeeded in keeping it off him. I would try if I thought I could.
More back-and-forth seems likely to continue when I introduce this incident into the main article on Censorship as an example of (insert descriptor of your choice) censorship. Everyone's invited to c'mon over!-- Joe ( talk) 02:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Financial Censorship, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Financial Censorship. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Belinrahs| talktome⁄ ididit 16:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
== December 2009 ==
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False positive :D -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 03:29, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Fabrictramp | talk to me 00:48, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I will restore the article for now, since accounts have being blocked afterwards for sockpuppets of John254/Kristen Eriksen. -- JForget 02:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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