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Hi, thanks for the info.. I had read something about the copyrights of lyrics somewhere, but I never paid much attention, to be honest. Lyricwiki was once my hope of a central lyric repository, since there are so many websites out there fighting to fill this niche while agressively hitting the user with intrusive ads... Is it reasonable to expect that some day there will be a legal, massive, reliable, central database of song lyrics? -- Waldir talk 00:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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If so, could you look at Comparison between Roman and Han Empires and particularly at the discussion at the bottom of the talk page, thanks. dougweller ( talk) 16:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm relatively new to wiki but feel I have alot to add to the community. I'm currently in dispute with another contributor on here and have tried to resolve it but not having much luck. It seems that he has an issue with a certain profile and no matter what i do to try and improve it he goes in and erases it. I've tried talking to him several times about it and asked his advice on what he would like, however everytime i make changes based on his suggestions he goes in and erases it immediately.
The proile page is for RJ Williams and it has been on wiki for a number of years and has several different contributions to it. i only made 1 minor edit a few months ago and i was going to it a few days ago to add a new fact and saw this user questioned the notabilty of the profile and altered several things on it.
When i asked why he was questioning the notability he first accused me of being associated with the profile in question---when i pointed out i had only made 1 minor edit and all my work was on other profiles he said he made a mistake and confused me with someone else. and the 2nd time i questioned something he went in and said he accidently put the wrong citation.
I dug a little deeper and he asked another admin to delete a user name associated with the bio and the admin was very reluctant but finally did. It's just very odd why he is so focused on this one wiki entry.
It seems to me that this user has a personal issue with the bio in question because he has gone in and deleted everything associated with it and this person's companies. At first i thought nothing of it but after taking time trying to make it better im really questionable of his initiatives. Just frustrating because i spent hours trying to improve it and he immediately erases it.
There are many details which i can share on why his behavior is suspicious but i know your time is valuable so i wont get into it here. Perhaps you could review all the postings on his talk page? Its toward the bottom and the profile in question is RJ Williams here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hello_Control
i would love your advice on how to handle--at this point its not about my changes being added to the page i've given up on trying to make more---its about someone using wiki to try and disparage someone they may have a personal grief with. ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 02:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)).
First off thank you both for taking the time to respond to me. Moon I see your point as to why it wouldn't be likely that he has a vendetta against that individual and i was probably out of line for making that assumption; but please put yourself in my shoes. Perhaps its just he was frustrated with things that he thought were going on with the page and was being overly cautious. I really would appreciate it if you could look at a couple the issues at hand as a neutral third party and see if any these things seem valid to you. There are a few things in particular that I'm confused about :
1)reference #3--When you click on it it takes you to a show that aired on the Fox network (fox is clearly is a reliable source) at the top of the video it says "R.J. Williams, founder of younghollywood.com, lends his celebrity expertise to TSH" so i put "R.J. has also appeared on several shows lending his celebrity expertise" why is that incorrect? i was going to find out shows to post as well but he erased it before i had the chance and wouldnt it have been more appropriate for him to just erase the word "several" and leave the rest?
2) Williams' first project was a pilot in which he interviewed several of his celebrity friends. This presentation caught the eye of Showtime executives and he then began a relationship that lasted several years and spawned numerous series and specials.This came about because he erased an earlier reference i made to imdb and said it was only reliable for credits and not other info so i thought i was doing as he said and gave a link that verified credits----if you know imdb you knwo that a user cant go in and falsify credits---they heavily vet this to make sure the show was actually released and that it was released by the distibutor listed so i posted this link http://www.imdb.com/company/co0075105/ if you go to it it list all the shows that showtime has released look at #171 #125 #136 as just a few examples click on any of those and then on the left side click on company credits it clearly states production company was arjay entertainment and distributor was showtime networks--this should back up this statement "his presentation caught the eye of Showtime executives and he then began a relationship that lasted several years and spawned numerous series and specials"
3)Not sure why reference #5 is unreliable---its from a show on a highly distributed channel that discussed a new partnership with entertainment tonight--which backs up one of the things he wanted a reference to
4)lastly it was tagged as notability in question--i went to the notable forum and one of the things it says is "The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for them." i found several award nominations and i sent a reference verifying an award and it certainly qualifies for the following -- Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, or other productions.--- So shouldnt this all be enough to remove the notability tag?
The reason im so frustrated is i didnt write any of these above statements about mr. williams--i simply went to the page and saw that they were asking for someone to help edit and add references i went on to do just that thinking i was helping matters and everything was quickly getting erased--i feel it would have been much more productive of a dialouge to be had before the changes were just automatically implemented.
The other thing I dont understand (and this is obviously because im a newbie) is if a person is questionable about something looking like a news release why dont they just go in and rewrite the piece so its less like a news release?
So I guess the point im trying to make is im sure he wasnt out of line with his actions and he was just trying to protect the community,which i respect, but i think my contributions really should have been looked at a bit closer before being denied. ive spent far too much time on 1 person when there are several others i'd like to be working on improving.
Im at an interesting crossroads as i really would like to be able to contribute to the community, but at this point im really hesitant because i feel as though i might have nothing to add and all my suggestions will be shot down.
Hello please dont take anything that im saying as a personal attack on you as i realize you have made alot of contributions to the community and are for mare experienced than i am its just being in my shoes what has happened hasn't been a very good experience especially since i was engaging in meaningful conversations with you and then you started deleting my work without giving me the opportunity to explain it and i truly feel ive given very valid explanations. ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 09:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)).
Thank you very much for taking the time to leave such a detailed response---it definitely helped shed light on the situation.
1)I see why you made the text changes to this and I agree with them all. However I was under the impression that the show was a national television show on Fox, but if you are under the impression that its a local web show I will trust you did the research o find that and just defer to you on that point.
2)I see your point and I will go and try to change it so it more accurately reflects what you are suggesting.
3)You are completely right I must have made an error and posted the wrong link because I just tried going to it and found the same errors you did. I will go and try to find the correct link and add that. This was actually what set me off in the first place because hello said it was an unreliable source--I got really frustrated because the interview addressed things he wanted verified so i couldnt understand why he said it was unreliable. However if the link didnt work I can see why he thought that--I just wished he said that it was a broken link or incorrec tlink and not unreliable source because then I could have had the opportunity to fix it
4)he said citing an award would help solve the notabilty issue----I went and did just that--so i will send him something on his talk page asking if he is ok with me now removing the notability tag
What I meant by I didnt write any of the above statements was that I just pulled the information that was on imdb,film reference etc to get the information that I did to add ot the page. At that time I was under the impression that they were both reliable sources since I've seen numerous wiki pages utilizing them. I only added info that was documented on several other websites etc I didnt create any of it.
This whole thing has become a much bigger thing than I ever expected. So I'm planning to just go in and make the 3 changes I stated above and then move on from this page. Thanks again for your help as I find it very valuable. Hopefully hello will be in agreement with the above 3 changes and then both of us can go on to other stuff and leave it to others in the wiki community to improve it. ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 06:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
Teacher Coppertwig, I think user Albert584 is a sock puppet. Please check Talk:Differences between Huaxia and barbarians.
cc.to user Moonriddengirl Arilang talk 11:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your prompt reply Moonriddengirl. I am nervous with unfriendly user that can quote a lot of wiki rules(my opinion is they also seem to twist the rules around), because I never interested in English that seems to be cut-n-paste from Law Books, because they tend to go around in circles. And I do not like users that are more than happy to tag article with AfD template, without exploring all the available options. I prefer plain English. And I am used to straight talk, never like talks that beat around the bush. As you probably know, some of the articles I edit are highly political, so I expect to face oppositions, but I still like my opposition to use clean tactic. Arilang talk 13:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
User Madalibi and me are having dispute(What is new), instead of helping to improve the article(by the way he did not make a single edit towards the article), as explained in
Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Focus on content, instead he slammed another AfD tag on article
Differences between Huaxia and barbarians, which is his third AfD tags in a matter of days. I was trying to engage him in civil talk, can be seen here
Talk:Differences between Huaxia and barbarians#Third time using AfD tag apparently he had decided that actions speak louder than words.
What I am saying is normal editors come to Wikipedia to add contents to this world largest and free online enclopedia so that future genarations can share the knowledge handed down to them. It is hard to find editors hell bent on deleting articles, remind me of Burning of books of bygone era. Arilang talk 07:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again to both of you. Again I like to stress further the point that one of the articles I have created was tagged with a TfD template(which until today I only have a vague idea what it is) and I believe that the reasons quoted for using the TfD were inappropiate, and the way the template was applied was a strong bullying tactic. I think I saw somewhere(one of the wiki rules, I could not quote because I forgot where I saw it) saying that wiki editors should go all the way to help other editors to become good editors; I have interacted with a lot of wiki editors now that (1) nearly 4 months of wiki life (2) 3000 plus edits, nearly all the editors are friendly and helpful, with a few exceptions(one or two) that seem to abuse wiki rules and using shock and owe tactic. Arilang talk 20:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi i recreated the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucocorticoid_remediable_aldosteronism with material i wrote my self, if you have any comment regarding this page please contact me, or send me a msg on my talk page MaD ( talk) 15:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl! I just wanted to ask you about a correction made to the page List of Numb3rs episodes, specifically the episode description for the upcoming episode 'Jacked.' I am a new user, having just begun to write my own posts and additions to pages, and in writing the episode decription for this episode I used a site called Futon Critic. This is a reputable site which posts the episode listings and their descriptions straight from the CBS press release. As I mentioned before, I am new to the methods of citing used on Wikipedia, so I was hoping you could check the original site and my posting to see if my methods were up to par. The web address to the press release found on Futon Critic is listed below. Thank you! http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings.aspx?id=20081223cbs06 —Preceding unsigned comment added by BookManiac42 ( talk • contribs) 16:54, 2 January 2009
I have been trying to create a page for a TV show I like, but every time I save it I go back to the link and it saved it 'does not exist.' I can click on it, but it goes straight to the edit page and doesn't even show the page I made. I have tried to recreate the page, but every time I do so it brings up, instead of a fresh page, my old page. I have been trying to fix this for some time and I have no idea what to do next. The page is Scorpio (Flashpoint episode) and can be found directly off the page List of Flashpoint episodes. Can you please help me with this vicious cycle?-- BookManiac42 ( talk) 20:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I was on the Kathy Griffen page about to make a contribution regarding what happend on CNN 2 nights ago and I notice there is a big debate about it. A user added it and another user undid the changes. I dont want to walk right into another messy situation so I'd like to ask your advice before doing anything. If you arent familiar with the situation Kathy hosted the CNN new years special and when she thought the camera cut to commercial she yelled out profanity to someone in the audience. Turns out her microphone was still on so the whole incident was caught on live tv. I would think a simple mention of this and link to the video and a reference would be something worthy of being on her page something along the lines of "On New Years Eve 2008 Kathy Griffen was involved in a controversy during her hosting of CNN's new years special. As she thought the show was cutting to commercial, she yelled out a profanity to someone in the audience. Her microphone was still on, causing the entire thing to be caught on live tv." Is this appropriate for wikipedia? ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 07:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
Just want to make sure I am clear on what is a reliable source and what is not. The 2nd one you listed you said probably isnt This It is a blog entry but it was written by Michael Bruno--I did a bit of research on him and here is his official title: Mike Bruno News Editor at Time Inc./EW.com (Entertainment Weekly)
It seems he is a very reputable writer and has had hundreds of his articles published. Now that you know that info is it reliable or would it still be considered unreliable because it was written as a blog? ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 23:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
He has made so many accomplishments and is one of the most prolific hosts on television today. Yet there is barely anything on his wiki page. I have added a couple small things but entire sections need to be created him. I havent been using wiki long enough to try and tackle that but someone needs to. Is there a way to add an annotaion to the top of the page highlighting the fact that there is so much more info on him that needs to be added? Is there a place to go on wiki to bring his profile to peoples attention so its more complete? Aslo are you ok with me coming to you with questions like this? If you are too busy I understand just let me know where it is I go when Im not sure about something. The one thing I learned from the hello experience is not to just go and start editing pages if there is uncertianty its always best to discuss with people and try and clarify first so i dont make any errors and i follow the correct protocal. ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 08:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
Great thank you this was all very helpful :) ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 22:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
Hello, Moonriddengirl, this is your wiki friend, Survir. There is this user, Birdninja who keeps vandalizing the Indian television series article, Ghar Ki Lakshmi Betiyann by putting made-up info, and destroying the content with broken English. Can you please help stop him/her. I will really appreciate! Besides, I have reverted his/her edits couple of times, but he/she comes back and re-add the content back! Can you please help. Thank you! Your friend, Survir (talk) 12:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
I trust that you had a good break over Christmas and New Year. I wanted to continue the discussion that we had before Christmas about the Wikipedia page for DJ Sassy, which has just been archived. Based on feedback from yourself and others, I have made some changes, and would be grateful for your input on this. Please note, I forgot to login before updating the article today, so my username is not displayed on the Revision History for the edit on 3rd January. Sorry about that.
I have removed the reference which you were most concerned about with regards to issues of Verifiability, but believe that the other reference which was questionable is worthy of inclusion as explained before.
I have reviewed a couple of the other references from the original page which you had suggested should be included, but there are problems with these, since they include Sassy's name, and as you may remember we had a discussion in mid-2008 about the fact that this posed security issues for her, and you agreed that we could remove this from the main Wikipedia article. These references, although notable at the time, are typically several years old now and have little relevance to her current work since they were UK-based and most of her work now is done abroad.
Also, please note that as of 1st January the previous website djsassy.com is now permanently re-directed to the new sassypandez.com.
I would like to be able to include a picture of the Maxim magazine cover on the page as well, but wanted to check with you first as it looks like a potentially complicated issue. We have permission from the magazine to use the cover for any purpose that we like, and if I have understood the Template:Non-free magazine cover document correctly, this should be ok, but would appreciate your comments.
I look forward to your feedback on the above and hope that we can reach a concensus on this and get the page updated soon. AquilaUK ( talk) 15:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments. Please be assured that I do fully appreciate the role of Wikipedia as an objective, verifiable and reliable encyclopeadic imformation source, which is why I am making sure that I check all of these proposed amendments and changes in detail with you in advance.
I do understand why you want to have Sassy's TV show and work as a columnist for the Sun included, and I think that I can probably find some other references that can be used for these which do not include her name. I can then add these into the page, and if you are happy with the new version am I correct in thinking that we can then create a new Sassy Pandez Wikipedia page, and re-direct the existing DJ Sassy page to that new page?
Given the potential complications with using the image of the Maxim magazine cover, I think I will not include it in the page, at least for now.
I will let you know as soon as I have prepared a revised version of the page for you to review, and then hopefully we will be able to get this new page onto Wikipedia very soon. 86.112.188.134 ( talk) 20:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I think I have now got a final version of the new page ready for you to review. Please check that it is all ok, and if so arrange for it to be released as a new Sassy Pandez page, as you explained above. Thanks. AquilaUK ( talk) 18:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I fully understand about the opening line, so have changed it back to basically the same as it was before. I have put the Maxim cover sentence in the middle of the article instead. With regard to Booking-dj.com, we really should consider using this source. It is an independent DJ booking agency, rather than a promotional website as such and is not affiliated in any way to Sassy. I consider that it is a valuable reference because it includes information about Sassy's early career which is not readily available elsewhere. I hope that this is now ok. Let me know what you reckon. AquilaUK ( talk) 21:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for all your help : much appreciated. I'm expecting any future updates to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary, such as the addition of references from press articles from upcoming events for example. But I will check with you in advance regardless, just to be sure. Thanks again. AquilaUK ( talk) 00:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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I can't help but see your name in the most boring sysop areas like copyright problems. Good work. Stifle ( talk) 11:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
P.S. feel free to message me at any stage if you need OTRS permission tickets checked. Stifle ( talk) 11:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I was going to comment but I thought perhaps you should do it as there is, somewhat, of a text issue. File:Mafaism7a-web.jpg was taken to PUI because it is licensed as PD. The source of the image is "T-Shirts & Hats - $30.00 plus shipping and Handling" but the "copyright" is listed from the page at "The Way of Life, in Mafaism:". What do you think? Soundvisions1 ( talk) 18:02, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl. I revised Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/archive toc, a page you edited before my recent post. If I didn't revise the page correctly, please let me know. Thanks. -- Suntag ☼ 21:25, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
In line with the note left on my talk page could you userfy the deleted page Treaty Gaels Camogie Club?
I don't now disagree with the speedy deletion assessment but it left me with no possibility of saving the work I had put in for use elsewhere which as a relative novice is important not to lose everything.
-- Gramscis cousin ( talk) 09:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks -- Gramscis cousin ( talk) 12:50, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi there,
I've got your message with explaining the reason of deletion of the article. I actually don’t mind if it is a personal page or an article as long as it will be clickable and searchable through Victor Zinovyev.
The fact inspiring me to start the Topic was that the will to list the historical fact of true history event - the beginning of the Lindy Hop ( Swing Dance) community in Saint-Petersburg and the first international Saint Petersburg Swing Dance Festival. If we don’t do it now, it would be very possible gone from the attention and people would not know how it was really starting that time (1998 - 2000). I have some material to that Topic and I’ll definitely find other people that are able to contribute.
I wish you could help me with that and guide the inspiration in the right way.
Thank you very much and greetings from cold and sunny Hamburg. ;) Vick ( talk) 14:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, it's me again! I made another mistake, once again involving incorrect capitalization and its effects on link fluency. I mistakenly thought that a certain page had not been created, since I typed a link for it and the link did not bring me to a page, but it turns out that the reason the link didn't take effect was my incorrect capitalization. So I, very confusedly, created a new page. When I realised my mistake, I had already saved the new page My new page is an almost exact doppelganger of the actual link, because I actually copied the original in making my new page. Like i said, I was very confused. I there any way I could delete the new page that I made by mistake? The original page was [[List of In Plain Sight episodes, and the page I made (wow, I'm kicking myself) is List of In Plain Sight Episodes. Can you please help? BookManiac42 ( talk) 23:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again, I can't believe I keep making these stupid mistakes! BookManiac42 ( talk) 16:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Mooonridddengirl. I didn't think I'd be back, but here I am just a few months after retirement. However, I am here to exercise my right to vanish. The process is detailed at WP:VANISH, although I am certain you know this already. As I (foolishly, perhaps?) created my account with my real name as my user name, I would prefer it if all record of this name and its contributions were expunged from Wikipedia and the collection of user data. A username change is customary, and I suggest that you choose any name you like. I have no care for the name chosen, nor am I likely to ever see the name you do choose. I would greatly appreciate your assistance in this matter. In good faith, Jor dan Contribs 00:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey,
Why did you delete the Shame Idols page? If it was not set up correctly please tell me how to go about the process. You can e-mail me at palecat1 AT yahoo.com
Thanks, Bryan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.158.67.184 ( talk) 15:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Family Park Tycoon, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:
All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's
criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "
What Wikipedia is not" and
Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{
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notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on
its talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. MuZemike ( talk) 20:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if the message boxes I've put on the talk pages of articles which have been formed using content from other articles (such as Talk:A1 road (London) and Talk:First millennium B.C. in Ireland) are sufficient to satisfy the attribution requirement of the GFDL, when no notice of the merge is given in the relevent edit summary? Sorry to disturb you but you seem to be somewhat of a expert on this type of thing. Regards, Guest9999 ( talk) 14:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Moonriddengirl !!!!
SeisQuaRe
I strongly agree with your approach and I recognize the promotional side of this article.
That was not finished and I worked on the presentation more than on the text.
Could you send it back to my mailbox? I will re-write it without this too much affirmative speech.
I did not able to read it and to save it; I was on rush and I expect to finish it within the night or the day after. At least it was too quickly deleted.
So I apologized for the text.
Thank you again Moonriddengirl because you exactly point the problem and you did not just give a sentence.
Jsrlak (talk) 05:23PM January 8th, 2008 (GMT +1:00) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding
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OK, I've figured out the technical parts of it.
The normal (non-image version) can be seen on User:J.delanoy/3 (if you're interested, click "edit" to look at the code. It produces no stray code when used correctly.)
The "image" version can be seen on File:Asdjlgbasdlg. To clean up the code, and to give people an easy way to tell if the template is being used incorrectly (by using Special:WhatLinksHere), I will put the "error" code on a new template, something like Template:Copyvio error, but for now, it just includes the raw code for the error box on the file page.
Do you like the message I give? Or can you think of a better one? J.delanoy gabs adds 20:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl; thanks for your helpful comments. For me this has been a bit complicated but am sure that with some guidance I'll manage. I need to know how to change the bigger title as 'fund' should be written with a Capita F and not a small f. I also would like to know how to hyperlink key words like European Commission, European Social Fund and so forth. Thanks in advance for your help, Antoine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoine Mallia ( talk • contribs) 16:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello again,
Kevin Powell's page has been edited again. I understand the edits regarding the campaign are somehow reasonable to Wikipedia because they represent news articles. However, can you tell me why all information regarding his latest book, The Black Male Handbook: A Blueprint for Life have been omitted? Even the ISBN number at the bottom. Information on The Black Male Handbook was integrated into the writing section and the Books section. At this point they are no longer there.
Please advise.
Kp4c ( talk) 20:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, can you advise what to do in this case? Can the image be speedy deleted? Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 15:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Moonriddengirl,
I took your time, I really appreciate all the help you've given me. I am sending all my best wishes and blessings to you. Thanks
-- TRWebmaster ( talk) 00:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Are these ok to use as hotlinks? Eg [ [2]]. If not, I'd rather you deal with it, I've enough problems with OR, etc from this editor (who has added such links elsewhere) to add another one. Thanks. dougweller ( talk) 17:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello MRG, I hope you've had a good festive period. I'd like your advice on an article which popped up at WP:SCV, if you have the time. I'm not too sure about the copyright status of this piece; while WP:LYRICS tells us that most modern works are copyrighted, this is a "cowboy folk song". There is a very brief explanatory sentence, but the rest of the article is just lyrics, taken from here, but also published here (along with an irritating wav version of the song playing). What's the deal with this? My guess would be that it's old enough to be out of any copyright, but we don't actually know anything about the author etc. Best, – Toon (talk) 22:23, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Ah, it certainly looks that way now. There's never been much in the way of cowboys over here in the UK, so I'm afraid cowboy folk songs never really pop up on my radar... even if it was recorded by Johnny Cash. – Toon (talk) 14:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Kumbaya, Ging Gang Goolie... although campfires are a very American thing; Brits tend to go caravanning, fall out and ignore each other for the whole trip. Either that or get blind drunk. – Toon (talk) 14:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out that my link was not acceptable. I will try to dig up a site that is acceptable. -- Keeblerjesus ( talk) 01:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, why the hell did you deleted Wargames 2.0 Article? Article about a web site that does not assert significance) ???? what a hell? what is that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travian doing at wikipedia? Open your eyes, you never did anything good —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raiderr ( talk • contribs) 04:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi MRG, while I'm thinking about some related areas where we've co-participated (well, you singing and me chirping :), some points:
Anyway, random comments, I can't promise there won't be other passengers hopping on the bus! :) Franamax ( talk) 01:29, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello! While I was rewriting the article, you {{ copyvio}} tagged it. :) Could you take a look at my version here and see if it's a worthy replacement? Cheers, – Toon (talk) 14:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I thought his striking had caused the thing to break. The person who edited after me fixed the problem. hbdragon88 ( talk) 03:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I have edited Deadly Prey again. Im building a bigger article about it, but im waiting until it is complete before I post it. Also, how do I change the header? It reads Deadly prey, And I would really like it to read in capitals (Deadly Prey) Kind regards Lee S -- Larsselleth ( talk) 16:32, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help! -- Larsselleth ( talk) 09:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Hola MRG, I overhauled the Bud Mclearn page for you guys.
But, could you do me a candy-coated favor?
It needs to be moved:
Either:
or
Capital "L" in McLearn.
Thanks,
- 4.240.165.167 ( talk) 10:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
If an admins says so then it is so. But I have a question for you, what do you think of users that are not admins whose sole purpose is to delete content from the wikipedia. Some articles lile Marcus_Brigstocke had some facts that BlowDart removed, because of lacking source (the article now features a source and the information). But googling gave a source after a few seconds, in the wikipedia article about sources it says people should try to find if there are any sources before deleting. What that means is that users like BlowDart scares away new users, and lots of good content gets deleted. Why deleted? because it takes longer time to find a source (helping) than just removing the whole thing. Whats the meaning of one user not contributing with other than deletes of articles, links and other content instead of trying to help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caloss ( talk • contribs) 14:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
So Im asking is there a place where Wikilawyering can be reported in a way that can lead to a warning? (provided I got evidence etc.) -- Caloss ( talk) 14:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
The sections from Note (perfumery) were not in fact copied from [5]. They were taken from the section in the Perfume article, which I contributed significantly to and if I may say, was the main author. I believe "The perfumed court" copied the section for their website from the wikipedia perfume article. As such, please restored the edits to the article :) Sjschen ( talk) 21:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
To check this for yourself see http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Perfume&oldid=214728146. The purpose of the edit is to thin down and take the info from the Perfume#Fragrance_notes section and put it into the article. Sjschen ( talk) 21:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I have come across an article that I'm not sure what to do with. The article is John Austin (tennis) and, somewhere along the line, someone changed the subject of the article to another person of the same name who is a footballer. Any ideas of the procedures to be followed when this happens? I'd appreciate any help. T@nn ( talk) 10:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi there
A volunteer for our charity created a wikipedia page on our behalf. It has been deleted (in Dec 08) and new copy added by yourself. Unfortunately the new copy is inaccurate and out of date. I understand that the previous copy was deleted as it replicated some of the copy on our own website. How can we add this without it being removed? The copy was replicated with express permission by the organisation. Obviously we know that anything on wikipedia can be added to or edited but we would like to ensure that information there to start with is accurate.
Thanks and best wishes
Lesley Pinder Book Aid International lesley.pinder@bookaid.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skips80 ( talk • contribs) 12:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I noticed a message you left at User talk:Stifle, mentioning that the CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are not compatible with the GFDL. Now as far as I was aware, they are, and I actually advised a user not long ago to convert the CC-BY-NC at his website into a CC-BY or CC-BY-SA if we were to use it here. The gnu page states that it's ok for educational stuff, but not for "software or documentation" - I'm very confused. Can you clarify? Oh and the article is Morag Siller from here. It is listed at today's CP. Best, – Toon (talk) 13:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC) Actually, since it says "“Documentation” simply means textbooks and other teaching materials for using equipment or software." this seems to indicate that normal CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are ok for random stuff that isn't Software or its doc. – Toon (talk) 13:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I keep forgetting my talk page says I'll reply on the other person's talk page. I'm not sure which way is best even now! Anyway, if it is straightforward I'm happy to talk to him, if it might be complicated, I don't think I'm up to speed on complicated. dougweller ( talk) 14:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I happened to find a Torball article which you had removed some with copyright problems. I've suspected the History section of Wheelchair tennis has been copied from ITF website (see note of the article).
I don't know how English Wikipedia treats copyright violations very well. Do you think this case (wheelchair tennis) also has copyright problems? And what should I do next? Remove the section, for example?-- HannaLi ( talk) 17:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I have updated the article so can you please check if it's ok for me. A Candela ( talk) 02:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
How's things? A while back you helped me in making Sepultura's Arise a B-Class article, so I'll be asking you for an assistance in something. It has come to my attention that The Metal Observer has been nominated for deletion for since March 2008. Only admins can delete pages, right? Would you know one willing enougth to that? That article has been generating controversy for some time now... and since it has already been scheduled for annihilation, that process might provide some closure for all the parties involved. Musicaindustrial ( talk) 16:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
“ | Maybe see what Metal Observer says: that's one of the few accepted sources here that also actually knows what it's talking about with heavy metal :P As opposed to something like allmusic. | ” |
“ | "I'm pretty sure that nu metal has been significantly influenced by industrial metal." You may be right, unfortunately you are not a reliable source though. Before you add something saying nu metal has been significantly influenced by industrial metal you will need some reliable sources definitively saying just that. Landon1980 ( talk) 03:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC) | ” |
“ | He has reverted you once again and added back his original research/poorly written criticism section. | ” |
Hi Moonridden can you warn this IP and keep an eye on them. I've spotted 3 "totally gay" acts of vandalism within five minutes. Could you also put Rani Mukerji on your watch list it keeps being edited by a user called Martee James and an ip which we believe is him. It isn't blatant vandalism but we have come to some sort of consensus that it is not relevany to the introduction what he is adding as it is a lesser known film. As you can see it has been subject to editing warring. Thanks Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello.
I was about to start a new Article regarding Drewton Tunnel, however it appears you have previously attempted this and it was deleted.
Can you help me out a little as i would like to try and get an article on Wikipedia about this great but forgotten place.
Many Thanks
Antony Myers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antpant7 ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi MRG, if text is translated directly from another language, does it still constitute a copyvio? Saint-Adèle is a word-by-word translation of this site, which shows "All Rights Reserved c. 2004". It's done clumsily enough that you don't really need to know any French to see how directly it's been copied - it's literally word-for-word. Since there is zero creative input, I'd call it a copyvio (or at least a plagio), but you know much more about these things than I, so your advice is appreciated! Franamax ( talk) 18:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, a user here seems to think that becuase the content is copied from mtu .edu, the content is in the public domain. AFAIK, this only applies to content created by the U.S. Federal government. before I stick a big CSD G12 on it, can you confirm/deny? Best wishes, – Toon (talk) 00:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi
Surely you have heard the talk about how Wikipedia is unworthy of trust, that is for the lazy and/or unhappy, full of vandals "Jimbos`s bag of trivia"; Myself i love and trust Wikipedia but i`m not sure of how long can survive the vandals and all that deletion/inclusion crap, the edit wars, POV and all those thing that come with humans.
What do you think? Zidane tribal ( talk) 06:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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Dear Moonriddengirl, you left in my wikipedia page "Tocsin project" this message 20:45, 3 July 2008 Moonriddengirl (Talk | > contribs) deleted > "TOCSIN project" ? > (Unaddressed copyright concerns. > > I find it when the page was just deleted. So now I have create the page again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOCSIN_project and I received the permission, ticket number 2009011410022137. I hope now all is fine. Should I insert the ticket number in Tocsin page? Best regards Mammuffs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mammuffs ( talk • contribs) 13:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I will come back to you in few days if the problem persists. mammuffs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mammuffs ( talk • contribs) 09:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Glad you could do something useful from the Maximilian Stadler article. I appreciate your input. I actually just needed a biographical note on this composer after I quoted him on another article of mine: Music without sound. Thank you. -- Tellus archivist ( talk) 20:48, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Greetings, I'm trying to raise the Grindcore article to a B-Class on the quality scale. Could you help me out to start the evaluation process? I don't recall how it is done... Musicaindustrial ( talk) 11:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I'll fix it. Easily done Robert aka Notafly ( talk) 14:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I suddenly notice that images licensed with CCL or GFDL all now include {{ CommonsEncouraged}} tags. I can't find any sort of discussion on this but it seems all automated because in looking at the history of File:PamEvans 11Jun07.jpg there are no recent edits made but yet the new tags have been added. This is bad because we have an image whose text summary says "Fair use", has incorrect licenses and now has tags suggesting it is safe to move to commons. It also places every single user uploaded file that has been freely licensed into Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons. Just a very quick look confims - File:13318 Noelle.jpg marked with an FUR but tagged as move to commons, File:2Pi-Con Logo.jpg is a logo, File:51A8DUlOX3L.jpg is a CD cover. You get the idea. As an admin maybe you have more insite as to how this happened? (EDIT - hm - maybe this is "who" - Sfan00 IMG contributions. But why?) Soundvisions1 ( talk) 02:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Copyright concern I hope within a week. No more than two Robert Notafly ( talk) 20:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Revise. Notafly ( talk) 20:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your message regarding the article Harry van Bomme. I have re-sent the request for the text to be released in GFDL. It's Friday now, I expect a reply some time next week. To which address should an e-mail with permission be sent? -- Gerrit C U T E D H 14:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
This article has had a 'speedy delete' message on it since November, and the author has written that he/she has created another page with the correct spelling, so I'm requesting that this page be deleted. Also, if I find other such pages, is there a list of people I can contact about it? I don't want to keep bothering the same people about it... T@nn ( talk) 13:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
←Ah. The contributor used the "meta" template. {{Db-meta |bot={{{bot|}}} |criterion=A3 |1= as an article which contains no content whatsoever, or consists only of external links, category tags, a "see also" section, a rephrasing of the title, an attempt to correspond with the person or group named by its title, chat-like comments and/or images |2=[[Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages|Disambiguation pages]] are not eligible for this criterion. A very short article may still be a valid [[Wikipedia:Stub|stub]] if there is sufficient context to identify the subject |temp=nocontent-warn |summary=Article with no useful content }} Voila. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at Wikipedia:Notability (music) that is, more or less, taking the form of discussion after editing, rather than editing after a solid proposal was made and reached a consensus. (look at the edit history, than the talk page.) I thought about a rollback but felt it would be better if an admin who is active in these sort of discussions on the music related criteria looked at it. Thanks. Soundvisions1 ( talk) 00:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Your input was helpful, encouraging and so very much appreciated. Being new, I was feeling frustrated and not getting the kind of feedback that would get me going in the right direction. The rules make sense to me because any Tom, Dick or Harry can attempt to post on this important site, but what I'm trying to add is important as well. It's complicated for a newbie.
I especially liked your comment about not making the title Mary Fisher (AIDS) because it really goes against the entire subject of this incredible woman. How does one change that? And I also need her to link from her father, Max Fisher, also an important figure in American history? How can I do that?
Handley Willoughby ( talk) 16:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonridden girl, I am trying to insert a link that refers to the European Globalisation adjustment Fund here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization#See_also
When I insert an internal link it tells me that that the page does not exist. Can you help? Antoine Mallia ( talk) 09:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
I have not tagged this but thought you might want to have a look. Pam Evans There have been issues with this article in the past and I am not sure what copyvios may or may not have been dealt with but currently there is a letter/email posted but I don't see any OTRS information about it. There are also some quotes referenced/cited as "Personal correspondences (Alosel)" Soundvisions1 ( talk) 15:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I turned the Black presidents article (deleted) into Black presidential candidates in the United States and Black president in popular culture of the United States. People are going to town on the culture one... ChildofMidnight ( talk) 05:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I stumbled across these related articles today:
The Accacha Chronicles, Flamma Flamma, Terra Terra and Amor Aeternus
They consist almost entirely of lengthy quotes from copyrighted texts, mostly the CD booklets, but also Time Magazine, the composer's web site, etc. Credit is given to the sources, but it goes well beyond "brief quotes". I couldn't find any appropriate tags for a situation like this. Template:Non-free doesn't seem to apply to texts. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it ok to have a username of cock-sucker, specifically User talk:Sockcucker13? The person's edits are not so good either. Ipromise ( talk) 06:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Not that you speak the language but the situation confuses me. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Khuntien Ngin/Rendy Marciano. Seems to possibly be spread across many Wikis but not sure what the first source is really. But is does appear to be cut and pastes given the form the subpages seemed to pop up in at on the English Wikipedia. I would say they were cut and pasted form other Wikis because of the formating, but some have been deleted already and they were created here on the same day. (i.e - see http://na.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGTT - deleted from there on January 13 and User:Khuntien Ngin/OGTT - created here on January 13). Interesting so feedback welcome. Perhaps my "delte" opinion is off if it seems to be a legit article(s) in the making. Soundvisions1 ( talk) 20:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I was surprised to read your comments regarding the above-referenced subject. It does make sense to note the copy in the source article, but your statement, "Wikipedia's contributors do not relinquish copyright to the material they author here" raises questions. It was my understanding that no author 'owned' an article, although some editors like to revert changes that they just don't like. Once an article gets tweaked by other contributors, it may be very different from the original. How could the original author possibly claim copyright over the derivative work? Mgreason ( talk) 15:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Happy to help. Zagalejo ^^^ 17:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
What would you like me to do if I find a copyright violation in your list, such as JM Family Enterprises? The paragraphs are essentially copied from Forbes, so should I speedy under G12 and then remove from your list? Or just strike? — Cyclonenim ( talk · contribs · email) 12:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Moonriddengirl. Thanks for the heads up (and the welcome to Wikipedia, which is probably the first I've gotten!). Looking it over, there's definitely not enough reword/rephrasing. I'll go rewrite the portions of that article that are too much like the source. Flying Toaster 17:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
See here. Cheers, -- Gego ( talk) 04:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Can you keep an eye on the Bollywood article. It is infuriating having the revert all the time. see in the last 24 hours alone here. There is a consensus betwene a few of us that the names Martinee James keeps adding are not notable to be mentioned in the main article. Despite this and an addition I added in the last 24 hours he persists on restoring it. Could you keep an eye on things thanks as 3RR is approaching. I've asked him to please cite references and that only the most acclaimed names should be included but he is unwilling to discuss it rationally and continues to disrupt. Thanks. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I think you handled the situation perfectly Moonridden. You're setting a great example for how an admin should act on here, didn't jump in and act rashly but acted fairly based on the edits of the person who only has himself to blame. Kepe up the good admin work! Dr. Blofeld White cat 22:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be best to just bloack his IP address, stop him creating multiple accounts? Are they all registered to the same IP? Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Moonriddengirl, long time no see (again). Would you mind retrieving this article for an adoptee of mine? He wishes to rewrite it, so can you copy it to his sandbox, User:Mr Richard Richter/Sandbox? That would be great, thanks. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 01:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't notice the infringement on Alexander Brest Planetarium. I've been using this tool to check for infringements, and it has caught a couple already (one I'm about to handle). But in that article's case, it didn't catch it. Fun Pika 21:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Just posting to say thanks for addressing the content on the DSDM page, I had noticed a while ago that content seemed to be appearing on the page which was culled from other sources. It's en-heartening to see that people are both actively editing pages on Wikipedia and genuinely interested doing things properly. Semafore ( talk) 23:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I had a page that was recently deleted, and just wanted to leave you a note thanking you for recovering it to my sandbox. Have a great day! Mr Richard Richter ( talk) 15:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
On this page [ [8]] I've discovered vandalism. Scroll down to 8046 Ajiki and you'll find, just below it a reference to a nonexistant asteroid named as 8046B that is "Secret Astroid, ridden by Goku". I click on "edit this page" but obviously the page gets the text from elsewhere. I'm hoping that you would be able to fix this. T@nn ( talk) 16:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl:
Thanks for your help with the Status of Medjugorje article I posted. As you know, the article was deleted because of copyright concerns. The first question I have is, what do I do in order to prove that I am the author of the article? I tried reading some of the Wikipedia articles to discern what I should do, but never really figured it out. Your help would be appreciated.
Secondly, it was recommended that I move the article over to Our Lady of Medjugorje and post it there. Once the verification that I am the author is settled, can I post the article there, and if so, would I do it by pasting my article over the top of the existing article? This would delete the existing 2 paragraphs (not much there currently). I don't want to proceed in a manner that is un-wiki-like. :)
Thanks for your help!
Craig Turner Peterfranciw ( talk) 21:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)peterfranciw
Before I post everything on the copyright discussion page, I wanted to discuss this with you so we can already present a concept for co-publishing on the copyright page.
Ok, let's see how we proceed: I am very much in favor of a solution as we added some good articles (mainly on the german wikipedia). I think that spreading quality-controlled texts is a good idea. That is the reason for trying to co-publish as there are legal problems otherwise. Here some thoughts for legal worst case scenarios (i hate my law studies):
This said, we should not overreact ( Wikipedia:Avoid copyright paranoia). Perhaps we can find a way where we establish my position as admin (how to do that in a way that would save me from litigation I do not know, but fine) and my right to act on non-exclusive rights given to eLib by authors - also for the co-publishing process. This way, at least I personally could add eLib texts which would mean some work but also more content. How should we do that? Cheers, -- Gego ( talk) 09:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
The sock is back with another account (apparently, he was waiting for the opportunity to be able to edit that article). I think the article should be protected from any edits. Shahid • Talk2me 14:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Mary Fisher
Hello again. You were helping me make changes to get a page up on Mary Fisher the activist. When I came back to work on it, I found a page up on its own! How do I know who put that page up? Some of the information is incorrect and/or not necessarily what they were hoping to have out there in this format. Is there anything a person can do about that? How do I find out who made the page?
Thank you again Handley Willoughby ( talk) 20:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
You have been so helpful. Thank you again. Handley Willoughby ( talk) 21:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the 'conflict of interest' link - it was helpful. I only want to help people (and wiki), so I feel entirely comfortable with how to keep it encyclopedic. Which brings me to my current problem - there is one urgent fact missing from the page and I'm concerned for the impact it might have on others. Mary went back on the medication not long after that article you found that stated she had stopped. I'd hate to have people interpret that as a reason to stop. If I can't find a 'source' for this information, how can I get that very important point across? Thank you again! Handley Willoughby ( talk) 22:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I haven't been able to find anything public. Can I just take that fact down for now, or do I need to have a reason? I can go back and put it back up later?! Thanks! Handley Willoughby ( talk) 19:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Moonriddengirl. I've done an initial rewrite of the Army worm article and put it here. The same sources as before were used, but rephrased and rewritten. It'd be awesome if you could take a quick look at that, and if you're satisfied that it's no longer a copyright problem I'll add it back in. If not, I can rewrite any portion you feel needs some work. Thanks! Flying Toaster 18:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
“ | The life cycle is completed in about 30 days during the summer, but 60 days in the spring and autumn, and 80 to 90 days during the winter. The number of generations occurring in an area varies with the appearance of the dispersing adults. The ability to diapause is not present in this species. In Minnesota and New York, where fall armyworm moths do not appear until August, there may be but a single generation. The number of generations is reported to be one to two in Kansas, three in South Carolina, and four in Louisiana. | ” |
“ | The life cycle of the fall army worm varies in length by season; 30 days in the summer, 60 in the spring and fall, and 80 to 90 days in the winter. How many generations a population of fall army worms go through depends on when they appear in a region, with more southern locations reporting more generations. For instance, in Minnesota and New York they do not appear until August and may only live for a single generation. However, in Kansas they go through one to two generations, in South Carolina they go through three, and in Louisiana they go through four.[4] | ” |
“ | The life cycle of the fall army worm varies in length by season; typical life cycle during the summer is 30 days, but this doubles in spring and autumn and as much as triples in winter. How many generations a population of fall army worms goes through depends on when they appear in a region, ranging from four in areas like Louisiana where the moths make an early appearance to one in such locations as Minnesota and New York. | ” |
Hi MRG, I know I've promised to get active again on a certain topic but in the meantime:
Do you have any comments on this? I'm not sure that was the right place to ask the question, or even if I actually asked any clear question. :) Thanks! Franamax ( talk) 01:54, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, sorry to take so long getting back to you about this exoticindia.com. I do still have the e-mails from them securely in my saved messages folder. They initially wanted to stipulate non-commercial use only, but, after I explained that that wouldn't be possible, I received an e-mail from @exoticindia.com on Aug. 5, 2005 reading in part "I have discussed the issue with Seema. She has informed me that as per your suggestion the credit to our text will be mentioned in the Edit Summary. In case the source is appropriately credited, you can use our text content freely on Wikipedia. However, we have to be more particular about the possible end use of our images. I have therefore requested Seema not to list our images on Wikipedia for now." Please advise how to proceed.— Nat Krause( Talk!· What have I done?) 02:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I plan to work on the temporary version further and would hugely appreciate a few more days. Thanks very much. Flying Toaster 19:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Are you able to give me back my temp page, which was a work in progress. Thanks for your comments. ( i know minus the text)
Some information I would think would be very similar to the company's website because of factual information. I was following some other mining companies wik's for formatting.
The information I had was stating the company's public company symbol and what type of projects they have ongoing. I can't really change that too much as they are public and anything that gets released on its own website or press release is scrutinized by the stock exchange. The information I was putting up may seem like it is copyright, but with public companies, it is more like factual public information that shouldn't be modified and is allowed to be disseminated.
My goal is to describe the company, give a blurb about the company and users can use the external link section or link back to the company website for more information. I do not want to have copyright concerns even though the information was provided by the company, i just don't want to change it drastically.
However, I have no problem re-wording areas that I can and give obvious reference to the source which I believe follows protocol for the copyright issue.
you mentioned "as long as the information comes from a cited source, you don't need to duplicate the language (and must not, to comply with our copyright policy"
If I put up exactly what i had before and right underneath the article put cited source and a link.. will that work and solve my problems?
thank you again and I will keep learning to avoid these mistakes in future postings.
Newdesignnow ( talk) 20:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)newdesignnow
thanks you are the best! Newdesignnow ( talk) 20:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)newdesignnow
I think i get what other people have done. If I am getting information from tirex and they have that on their website. I can keep the information exactly the same, but put a little reference tag and have a reference section to where it can be found on the net. Will that work?
Newdesignnow ( talk) 20:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)newdesignnow
Hello Who Are YOU! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.252.203.226 ( talk) 00:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello firend! I need your help on Bollywood films and plagiarism. One user, Zhanzhao ( talk · contribs) has been adding films to the list of "Films alleged to contain plagiarism", using completely unreliable sources, even blogs.
Back in time, he was at first saying such things as "It's a clear remake, we all know that". He was (and still is) under the impression that sources must not be added. Then he started adding sources when he saw that his edits are otherwise reverted. But most of them were blogs and fansites. I cleaned up the list, leaving only the titles that use reliable sources. Asked him to find reliable sources, as per WP:RS. Now he keeps reverting my edits to his own version asking me to prove hat they are unreliable. I (believe me, I know exactly what can and what cannot be considered reliable as someone who wrote a FA about an Indian actor and even had many troubles because of that) explained that the burden of proof is on him, and as for the sources, he is the one who adds them, hence he is the one who must prove their reliability when they are questioned.
As you were able to spot in the near past. I even added some sources myself. Today for example I removed a questionable source and replaced it with an Indian newspaper. It does not help, and the page is still being reverted (and the unreliable sources re-added). Could you please help me somehow? Talk to him? Protect the page? Or anything else? Shahid • Talk2me 12:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick action on Microwave power transmission - sometimes it takes a while to track back into the edit history and find when particular phrases were added. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 16:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I see you are very involved in dealing with copyright violations, could you please take a look at this case: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Anonmoos.27_copyright_violation Thank you -- Falastine fee Qalby ( talk) 18:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi.
By any chance do you know whose idea was to ALWAYS put a table in the track listing for those albums, i haven`t really learned to work with them, wich make it a real pain, but i don`t want to remove them if some guideline or concensus says i can`t.
Thanks Zidane tribal ( talk) 23:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be an edit war in this article with one person continually redirecting the page to another and one person restoring the page and the two of them alternating undoing the edits of the other. I don't know if you can do anything about it, but it's beginning to annoy me (I attempted to get it categorised by putting it in the January category of articles to be categorised and, once again, it's in the specialpages of uncategorised articles). T@nn ( talk) 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I was composing a fairly long message to this user which I posted after you blocked him (it was a new section so I didn't see the block message before I posted it) - it's on his talk, hopefully he'll take it on board when his block expires. Exxolon ( talk) 16:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
How about nominating this for GA? Hekerui ( talk) 02:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl. Sorry to bother you again, but I'm trying to get rid of the broken references on some of the articles and I simply can't seem to get rid of the one on this article, no matter where I put the reflist: I've tried to put it in the usual place where I put it (just above the categories) and that has worked in other articles but not this one. Then I tried another place (as you can from the current state of the page) and that didn't work either. Do you have any idea of why that is and what can be done? T@nn ( talk) 15:53, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
NuclearWarfare ( Talk) 18:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I see you removed information about me Kennan Ward. Although I consider myself at least average I say it is semantics to say you can not use information I provide about myself and than publish similar writings people submit with minor or one change??
Could you imagine going through all this writing something new to find the same result. I may be hard to learn your very specific ways but I think it may help you to be flexible to real people.
I submitted a starting point for others to add after some hundred requests from art collectors. I actually thought I was helping Wikipedia.
I can not put a GFDL on my website as I have many copyright images. The text is a whole other situation especially about us?
I hope you can understand.
PEACE,
Kennan Ward-- Kennanward ( talk) 01:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. You'll need to delete this users account and get him renamed. Unless it is Everett McGill himself then it violates the living person thing doesn't it. Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thank you very much! I was just talking with a friend who was going to help me put together the sourcing, I owe you a big thanks! I will still look to add more the article. I appreciate all of you help. Tbolden ( talk) 19:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you as well for your work in identifying the problems with the article. Well above and beyond just admin monitoring the copyright violations page! I haven't checked your history to see if anyone barnstared you for your work on that Copyright Violations page, but heck if they haven't you unquestionably deserve it. You did an amazing job on putting together the citations. I was talking to Tbolden on the phone walking him through what to do, and you did it all! jbolden1517 Talk 06:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your compliment and your encouraging words, they mean a lot. Thanks again, I plan to add to the article Tbolden ( talk) 15:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Moonriddengirl, I guess I should also ask you, is there anything else you would recommend I do to get the article to either good article or (gasp!) even featured article status. Seriously though any suggestions, I originally started this as something kind of fun to do and did not expect the feedback you have given, but I have found the process of writing the article to be a good reminder of the value of hospice care. Again thanks for your support. Tbolden ( talk) 22:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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No problem. It has to be done, after all.
I think the biggest challenge will be checking the Jacksonville, Florida article, because of its size and Mgreason's long-time involvement with it. We'll need a few eyes on that one. Zagalejo ^^^ 19:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
A very sincere thank you and wow - for your work on the Indonesian articles this morning - it is very much appreciated - clearly an improvement - Satu Suro 01:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
SIUT (Sindh Institute Of Urology & Transplantation) Karachi page has been deleted in the list hospitals of Karachi. I wonder why this has been done because this the state of the art hospital providing urological sevices as well as renal transplant free of cost. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saima76 ( talk • contribs) 08:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Once again, above and beyond the call of duty.;-) I lose patience after I see the umpteenth paste job from a web site. You know that box that appears when you create an article...
Has the English Wikpedia ever thought of adding something to the effect of...
They have it on the Italian Wikipedia. [11] No one reads the stuff at the bottom of the editing page. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 19:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
← I'm going to be away for the next 5 days, but I'll have a look when I get back. It's an important topic. As for the student, clueless I guess. We failed another one whose essay was a verbatim copy from a book chapter (not mine). We gave her a chance to re-write with no grade penalty and she submitted a new essay two months later copied from... er... a different chapter in the same book. Often times, people really do know what they're doing, but hope against hope that no one will notice. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Kennan Ward page.
I placed in the text and on the web site the following.
The text on this page only is available as GFDL to support Wikipedia. KWP2009--Kennanward (talk) 20:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Kennan-- Kennanward ( talk) 21:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)-- Kennanward ( talk) 21:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not the sort to review Good Article nominees, but I lvoe giving free advice. I'd suggest combining all the small sections in Jimmy Norman under an overrarching "Biography" banner for better organization. Avoid "personal life" sections, especially since this one is so small; work personal information into the appropriate subsections. WesleyDodds ( talk) 12:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Pardon the interruption, but I saw
this, and I thought from what I've seen so far on various boards and such - that perhaps it wasn't proper. I don't think I'm on the best of terms with the editor at the moment, didn't want to inflame anything, and wanted to be discreet as well. While I may not agree with the editor on some things, I lost my love of USENET bickering years ago - so I wanted to ask someone online who would had a better understanding of policy and guidelines than I do. Thanks.
— Ched (
talk)
01:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your input. I added a bit more to the page. I want to go slowly on this page. Can you take a look how I did the referencing. thanks Newdesignnow ( talk) 07:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)newdesignnow
Hello Moonriddengirl:
A little suspicious duplication I found in Necklace#History. The quaint writing style used in the history section sent me looking for a source.
The section matches the first part of:
http://www.jjkent.com/articles/jewels-necklaces-history.htm
(aside from a spelling change from Hindoo to Hindu)
The History text was added on Nov. 20, 2007.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Necklace&diff=172798192&oldid=171724225
The text on JJKent.com is marked as copyright 2004.
I'm leaving this note here as I don't know what to do about it. IMO it is a very scattered history, not an encyclopedic one, so it might be best just to delete it. However, the information given does serve to indicate the great antiquity of necklaces.
Best wishes, Wanderer57 ( talk) 17:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
An editor recently added a paragraph to 2008-2009 Israel-Gaza conflict consisting mostly of quotations of copyrighted text from the same source. (About 7 sentences to be exact). Based on this guideline: "extensive quotation of copyrighted text is prohibited", I removed all but one quoted sentence. [14] There are some other issues like undue weight and POV, but I want your opinion on the the legal aspect of it, does the editor's version violate the quotation policy and was my action justified? Thank you-- Falastine fee Qalby ( talk) 18:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
←First let me note that the "quotations" you removed were not all correctly attributed. The article at the point of your link indicated Cotler said that "Any use of a civilian infrastructure to launch bombs is itself a war crime. Hamas bears legal responsibility for the harm to civilians in areas from which it fires is enshrined throughout international law". The source does not mesh with this. It does not quote Cotler saying the second of those sentences. It is paraphrasing Cotler: "That Hamas bears legal responsibility for the harm to civilians in areas from which it fires is enshrined throughout international law, he said:" For that reason alone, the material would need to be revised. Even if the article were to quote that text, it would need to properly attribute it to Haviv Rettig Gur. ("According to Haviv Rettig Gur, Cotler indicated "[t]hat Hamas bears....")
That said, in my opinion, your action was quite justified because the use of quotation is unnecessarily extensive. The guideline in question here is the non-free content guideline, which is where the language you quote above originally comes from. Whether or not the quotation exceeds fair use (and it might; see below), our NFC guideline call for four factors in making use of non-free media (print media included):
Fair use, as I said, is questionable. Among the four factors to consider, of greatest concern here is that (a) Wikipedia aspires to be free for commercial reuse (affecting factor 1: purpose & character) and (b) the quotation represents a substantial portion of the original according to my quick check at http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/charcount.shtml (affecting factor 3: size and substantiality). However, whether or not the text conforms to fair use would really only be definable by a court of law. What we need to figure out is if it conforms to Wikipedia's guidelines.
This is unlikely. While a few quotations may be necessary to (as NFC says) "illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea", much of this could be summarized in original language. For a single example:
Cotler noted that international law holds Hamas responsible for any harm suffered by civilians as a result of its launching bombs from a civilian infrastructure, which according to him is a war crime.
Fresh language, no quotations necessary. It seems to me that we could easily replace that copyrighted text, although some brief quotations from that material might be appropriate if Cotler were using specific language that could be difficult to convey otherwise.
I hope that's not too convoluted a response. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Fal's original claim was copyright violation. No extensive argument was made until after-the-fact. His first deletion was a short statement made by Cotler, which he considered "plagiarism." I said ok to that, and replaced the quotes with the Jpost source which includes quotations and is verifiable. I was simply trying to compromise here, there was no need to delete entire sources on grounds of undue weight. For those who are unaware, the entire article has been disputed top to bottom and that kind of excuse must be justified with a consensus before deleting sourced info IMO. I do agree some of the quotes could have been trimmed, but deleting entire paragraphs is an extremely aggressive tactic, especially when it is sourced and not OR. I do understand your claim of non-free content but I don't understand your rationale. The quotations were properly attributed to Coltler. Whether he was inferring or borrowing opinions from other experts doesn't separate the fact that it was Cotler's own words. And in the event that a portion of the quotes weren't in his own words, say a phrase...the solution is simple. Delete the phrase or source it to the proper expert. Deleting entire paragraphs is a cause for concern in such a polarized article. If you could please quote specifically what is the "non-free info", that would be beneficial. It's hard for me to accept the fact that the entire paragraph wasn't free, I don't understand that rationale from your post above, especially when the current sentence here comes from the same source. Is that non-free also?
A note: Fal and I have a rather unsettling history, so keep in mind that this whole discussion could be motivated from personal inclinations (from both of us) and not necessarily for the actual article. Trying to assume good faith here, trust me lol. I just wanted to make sure you knew that admin. Wikifan12345 ( talk) 00:23, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I too have been experiencing the same technical issues. Your links make sense, but it still doesn't address my most important claim: The section I linked contains vast amounts of quotations, not all from the UN (mostly news), that greatly exceed the current sentence. Again, I find it rather odd how the users felt it was necessary to simply delete everything, first under plagiarism accusation (not true), than under copyright claim (which might be true but to a different extend), and now fair-use. It seems the excuses changes depend on how I respond, which is questionable. Anyways, under your reasoning, could I paraphrase the other quotations (though more concise) by the example you gave? I could probably do it, I just don't see why I should have to seeing as how the rest of the article isn't put under the same microscope. And fal, I don't see anything wrong with my posts. I appreciate Moon's patience, maybe she's a friend of yours I don't know but I shouldn't have to put smiley faces and hearts to convey a sense of cordiality. Am I being hostile Moon? Are my posts offensive? :D Wikifan12345 ( talk) 02:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for the info.. I had read something about the copyrights of lyrics somewhere, but I never paid much attention, to be honest. Lyricwiki was once my hope of a central lyric repository, since there are so many websites out there fighting to fill this niche while agressively hitting the user with intrusive ads... Is it reasonable to expect that some day there will be a legal, massive, reliable, central database of song lyrics? -- Waldir talk 00:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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I'm relatively new to wiki but feel I have alot to add to the community. I'm currently in dispute with another contributor on here and have tried to resolve it but not having much luck. It seems that he has an issue with a certain profile and no matter what i do to try and improve it he goes in and erases it. I've tried talking to him several times about it and asked his advice on what he would like, however everytime i make changes based on his suggestions he goes in and erases it immediately.
The proile page is for RJ Williams and it has been on wiki for a number of years and has several different contributions to it. i only made 1 minor edit a few months ago and i was going to it a few days ago to add a new fact and saw this user questioned the notabilty of the profile and altered several things on it.
When i asked why he was questioning the notability he first accused me of being associated with the profile in question---when i pointed out i had only made 1 minor edit and all my work was on other profiles he said he made a mistake and confused me with someone else. and the 2nd time i questioned something he went in and said he accidently put the wrong citation.
I dug a little deeper and he asked another admin to delete a user name associated with the bio and the admin was very reluctant but finally did. It's just very odd why he is so focused on this one wiki entry.
It seems to me that this user has a personal issue with the bio in question because he has gone in and deleted everything associated with it and this person's companies. At first i thought nothing of it but after taking time trying to make it better im really questionable of his initiatives. Just frustrating because i spent hours trying to improve it and he immediately erases it.
There are many details which i can share on why his behavior is suspicious but i know your time is valuable so i wont get into it here. Perhaps you could review all the postings on his talk page? Its toward the bottom and the profile in question is RJ Williams here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hello_Control
i would love your advice on how to handle--at this point its not about my changes being added to the page i've given up on trying to make more---its about someone using wiki to try and disparage someone they may have a personal grief with. ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 02:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)).
First off thank you both for taking the time to respond to me. Moon I see your point as to why it wouldn't be likely that he has a vendetta against that individual and i was probably out of line for making that assumption; but please put yourself in my shoes. Perhaps its just he was frustrated with things that he thought were going on with the page and was being overly cautious. I really would appreciate it if you could look at a couple the issues at hand as a neutral third party and see if any these things seem valid to you. There are a few things in particular that I'm confused about :
1)reference #3--When you click on it it takes you to a show that aired on the Fox network (fox is clearly is a reliable source) at the top of the video it says "R.J. Williams, founder of younghollywood.com, lends his celebrity expertise to TSH" so i put "R.J. has also appeared on several shows lending his celebrity expertise" why is that incorrect? i was going to find out shows to post as well but he erased it before i had the chance and wouldnt it have been more appropriate for him to just erase the word "several" and leave the rest?
2) Williams' first project was a pilot in which he interviewed several of his celebrity friends. This presentation caught the eye of Showtime executives and he then began a relationship that lasted several years and spawned numerous series and specials.This came about because he erased an earlier reference i made to imdb and said it was only reliable for credits and not other info so i thought i was doing as he said and gave a link that verified credits----if you know imdb you knwo that a user cant go in and falsify credits---they heavily vet this to make sure the show was actually released and that it was released by the distibutor listed so i posted this link http://www.imdb.com/company/co0075105/ if you go to it it list all the shows that showtime has released look at #171 #125 #136 as just a few examples click on any of those and then on the left side click on company credits it clearly states production company was arjay entertainment and distributor was showtime networks--this should back up this statement "his presentation caught the eye of Showtime executives and he then began a relationship that lasted several years and spawned numerous series and specials"
3)Not sure why reference #5 is unreliable---its from a show on a highly distributed channel that discussed a new partnership with entertainment tonight--which backs up one of the things he wanted a reference to
4)lastly it was tagged as notability in question--i went to the notable forum and one of the things it says is "The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for them." i found several award nominations and i sent a reference verifying an award and it certainly qualifies for the following -- Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, or other productions.--- So shouldnt this all be enough to remove the notability tag?
The reason im so frustrated is i didnt write any of these above statements about mr. williams--i simply went to the page and saw that they were asking for someone to help edit and add references i went on to do just that thinking i was helping matters and everything was quickly getting erased--i feel it would have been much more productive of a dialouge to be had before the changes were just automatically implemented.
The other thing I dont understand (and this is obviously because im a newbie) is if a person is questionable about something looking like a news release why dont they just go in and rewrite the piece so its less like a news release?
So I guess the point im trying to make is im sure he wasnt out of line with his actions and he was just trying to protect the community,which i respect, but i think my contributions really should have been looked at a bit closer before being denied. ive spent far too much time on 1 person when there are several others i'd like to be working on improving.
Im at an interesting crossroads as i really would like to be able to contribute to the community, but at this point im really hesitant because i feel as though i might have nothing to add and all my suggestions will be shot down.
Hello please dont take anything that im saying as a personal attack on you as i realize you have made alot of contributions to the community and are for mare experienced than i am its just being in my shoes what has happened hasn't been a very good experience especially since i was engaging in meaningful conversations with you and then you started deleting my work without giving me the opportunity to explain it and i truly feel ive given very valid explanations. ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 09:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)).
Thank you very much for taking the time to leave such a detailed response---it definitely helped shed light on the situation.
1)I see why you made the text changes to this and I agree with them all. However I was under the impression that the show was a national television show on Fox, but if you are under the impression that its a local web show I will trust you did the research o find that and just defer to you on that point.
2)I see your point and I will go and try to change it so it more accurately reflects what you are suggesting.
3)You are completely right I must have made an error and posted the wrong link because I just tried going to it and found the same errors you did. I will go and try to find the correct link and add that. This was actually what set me off in the first place because hello said it was an unreliable source--I got really frustrated because the interview addressed things he wanted verified so i couldnt understand why he said it was unreliable. However if the link didnt work I can see why he thought that--I just wished he said that it was a broken link or incorrec tlink and not unreliable source because then I could have had the opportunity to fix it
4)he said citing an award would help solve the notabilty issue----I went and did just that--so i will send him something on his talk page asking if he is ok with me now removing the notability tag
What I meant by I didnt write any of the above statements was that I just pulled the information that was on imdb,film reference etc to get the information that I did to add ot the page. At that time I was under the impression that they were both reliable sources since I've seen numerous wiki pages utilizing them. I only added info that was documented on several other websites etc I didnt create any of it.
This whole thing has become a much bigger thing than I ever expected. So I'm planning to just go in and make the 3 changes I stated above and then move on from this page. Thanks again for your help as I find it very valuable. Hopefully hello will be in agreement with the above 3 changes and then both of us can go on to other stuff and leave it to others in the wiki community to improve it. ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 06:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
Teacher Coppertwig, I think user Albert584 is a sock puppet. Please check Talk:Differences between Huaxia and barbarians.
cc.to user Moonriddengirl Arilang talk 11:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your prompt reply Moonriddengirl. I am nervous with unfriendly user that can quote a lot of wiki rules(my opinion is they also seem to twist the rules around), because I never interested in English that seems to be cut-n-paste from Law Books, because they tend to go around in circles. And I do not like users that are more than happy to tag article with AfD template, without exploring all the available options. I prefer plain English. And I am used to straight talk, never like talks that beat around the bush. As you probably know, some of the articles I edit are highly political, so I expect to face oppositions, but I still like my opposition to use clean tactic. Arilang talk 13:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
User Madalibi and me are having dispute(What is new), instead of helping to improve the article(by the way he did not make a single edit towards the article), as explained in
Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Focus on content, instead he slammed another AfD tag on article
Differences between Huaxia and barbarians, which is his third AfD tags in a matter of days. I was trying to engage him in civil talk, can be seen here
Talk:Differences between Huaxia and barbarians#Third time using AfD tag apparently he had decided that actions speak louder than words.
What I am saying is normal editors come to Wikipedia to add contents to this world largest and free online enclopedia so that future genarations can share the knowledge handed down to them. It is hard to find editors hell bent on deleting articles, remind me of Burning of books of bygone era. Arilang talk 07:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again to both of you. Again I like to stress further the point that one of the articles I have created was tagged with a TfD template(which until today I only have a vague idea what it is) and I believe that the reasons quoted for using the TfD were inappropiate, and the way the template was applied was a strong bullying tactic. I think I saw somewhere(one of the wiki rules, I could not quote because I forgot where I saw it) saying that wiki editors should go all the way to help other editors to become good editors; I have interacted with a lot of wiki editors now that (1) nearly 4 months of wiki life (2) 3000 plus edits, nearly all the editors are friendly and helpful, with a few exceptions(one or two) that seem to abuse wiki rules and using shock and owe tactic. Arilang talk 20:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi i recreated the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucocorticoid_remediable_aldosteronism with material i wrote my self, if you have any comment regarding this page please contact me, or send me a msg on my talk page MaD ( talk) 15:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl! I just wanted to ask you about a correction made to the page List of Numb3rs episodes, specifically the episode description for the upcoming episode 'Jacked.' I am a new user, having just begun to write my own posts and additions to pages, and in writing the episode decription for this episode I used a site called Futon Critic. This is a reputable site which posts the episode listings and their descriptions straight from the CBS press release. As I mentioned before, I am new to the methods of citing used on Wikipedia, so I was hoping you could check the original site and my posting to see if my methods were up to par. The web address to the press release found on Futon Critic is listed below. Thank you! http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings.aspx?id=20081223cbs06 —Preceding unsigned comment added by BookManiac42 ( talk • contribs) 16:54, 2 January 2009
I have been trying to create a page for a TV show I like, but every time I save it I go back to the link and it saved it 'does not exist.' I can click on it, but it goes straight to the edit page and doesn't even show the page I made. I have tried to recreate the page, but every time I do so it brings up, instead of a fresh page, my old page. I have been trying to fix this for some time and I have no idea what to do next. The page is Scorpio (Flashpoint episode) and can be found directly off the page List of Flashpoint episodes. Can you please help me with this vicious cycle?-- BookManiac42 ( talk) 20:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I was on the Kathy Griffen page about to make a contribution regarding what happend on CNN 2 nights ago and I notice there is a big debate about it. A user added it and another user undid the changes. I dont want to walk right into another messy situation so I'd like to ask your advice before doing anything. If you arent familiar with the situation Kathy hosted the CNN new years special and when she thought the camera cut to commercial she yelled out profanity to someone in the audience. Turns out her microphone was still on so the whole incident was caught on live tv. I would think a simple mention of this and link to the video and a reference would be something worthy of being on her page something along the lines of "On New Years Eve 2008 Kathy Griffen was involved in a controversy during her hosting of CNN's new years special. As she thought the show was cutting to commercial, she yelled out a profanity to someone in the audience. Her microphone was still on, causing the entire thing to be caught on live tv." Is this appropriate for wikipedia? ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 07:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
Just want to make sure I am clear on what is a reliable source and what is not. The 2nd one you listed you said probably isnt This It is a blog entry but it was written by Michael Bruno--I did a bit of research on him and here is his official title: Mike Bruno News Editor at Time Inc./EW.com (Entertainment Weekly)
It seems he is a very reputable writer and has had hundreds of his articles published. Now that you know that info is it reliable or would it still be considered unreliable because it was written as a blog? ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 23:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
He has made so many accomplishments and is one of the most prolific hosts on television today. Yet there is barely anything on his wiki page. I have added a couple small things but entire sections need to be created him. I havent been using wiki long enough to try and tackle that but someone needs to. Is there a way to add an annotaion to the top of the page highlighting the fact that there is so much more info on him that needs to be added? Is there a place to go on wiki to bring his profile to peoples attention so its more complete? Aslo are you ok with me coming to you with questions like this? If you are too busy I understand just let me know where it is I go when Im not sure about something. The one thing I learned from the hello experience is not to just go and start editing pages if there is uncertianty its always best to discuss with people and try and clarify first so i dont make any errors and i follow the correct protocal. ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 08:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
Great thank you this was all very helpful :) ( Movieman2008 ( talk) 22:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).
Hello, Moonriddengirl, this is your wiki friend, Survir. There is this user, Birdninja who keeps vandalizing the Indian television series article, Ghar Ki Lakshmi Betiyann by putting made-up info, and destroying the content with broken English. Can you please help stop him/her. I will really appreciate! Besides, I have reverted his/her edits couple of times, but he/she comes back and re-add the content back! Can you please help. Thank you! Your friend, Survir (talk) 12:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
I trust that you had a good break over Christmas and New Year. I wanted to continue the discussion that we had before Christmas about the Wikipedia page for DJ Sassy, which has just been archived. Based on feedback from yourself and others, I have made some changes, and would be grateful for your input on this. Please note, I forgot to login before updating the article today, so my username is not displayed on the Revision History for the edit on 3rd January. Sorry about that.
I have removed the reference which you were most concerned about with regards to issues of Verifiability, but believe that the other reference which was questionable is worthy of inclusion as explained before.
I have reviewed a couple of the other references from the original page which you had suggested should be included, but there are problems with these, since they include Sassy's name, and as you may remember we had a discussion in mid-2008 about the fact that this posed security issues for her, and you agreed that we could remove this from the main Wikipedia article. These references, although notable at the time, are typically several years old now and have little relevance to her current work since they were UK-based and most of her work now is done abroad.
Also, please note that as of 1st January the previous website djsassy.com is now permanently re-directed to the new sassypandez.com.
I would like to be able to include a picture of the Maxim magazine cover on the page as well, but wanted to check with you first as it looks like a potentially complicated issue. We have permission from the magazine to use the cover for any purpose that we like, and if I have understood the Template:Non-free magazine cover document correctly, this should be ok, but would appreciate your comments.
I look forward to your feedback on the above and hope that we can reach a concensus on this and get the page updated soon. AquilaUK ( talk) 15:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments. Please be assured that I do fully appreciate the role of Wikipedia as an objective, verifiable and reliable encyclopeadic imformation source, which is why I am making sure that I check all of these proposed amendments and changes in detail with you in advance.
I do understand why you want to have Sassy's TV show and work as a columnist for the Sun included, and I think that I can probably find some other references that can be used for these which do not include her name. I can then add these into the page, and if you are happy with the new version am I correct in thinking that we can then create a new Sassy Pandez Wikipedia page, and re-direct the existing DJ Sassy page to that new page?
Given the potential complications with using the image of the Maxim magazine cover, I think I will not include it in the page, at least for now.
I will let you know as soon as I have prepared a revised version of the page for you to review, and then hopefully we will be able to get this new page onto Wikipedia very soon. 86.112.188.134 ( talk) 20:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I think I have now got a final version of the new page ready for you to review. Please check that it is all ok, and if so arrange for it to be released as a new Sassy Pandez page, as you explained above. Thanks. AquilaUK ( talk) 18:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I fully understand about the opening line, so have changed it back to basically the same as it was before. I have put the Maxim cover sentence in the middle of the article instead. With regard to Booking-dj.com, we really should consider using this source. It is an independent DJ booking agency, rather than a promotional website as such and is not affiliated in any way to Sassy. I consider that it is a valuable reference because it includes information about Sassy's early career which is not readily available elsewhere. I hope that this is now ok. Let me know what you reckon. AquilaUK ( talk) 21:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for all your help : much appreciated. I'm expecting any future updates to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary, such as the addition of references from press articles from upcoming events for example. But I will check with you in advance regardless, just to be sure. Thanks again. AquilaUK ( talk) 00:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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I can't help but see your name in the most boring sysop areas like copyright problems. Good work. Stifle ( talk) 11:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
P.S. feel free to message me at any stage if you need OTRS permission tickets checked. Stifle ( talk) 11:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I was going to comment but I thought perhaps you should do it as there is, somewhat, of a text issue. File:Mafaism7a-web.jpg was taken to PUI because it is licensed as PD. The source of the image is "T-Shirts & Hats - $30.00 plus shipping and Handling" but the "copyright" is listed from the page at "The Way of Life, in Mafaism:". What do you think? Soundvisions1 ( talk) 18:02, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl. I revised Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/archive toc, a page you edited before my recent post. If I didn't revise the page correctly, please let me know. Thanks. -- Suntag ☼ 21:25, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
In line with the note left on my talk page could you userfy the deleted page Treaty Gaels Camogie Club?
I don't now disagree with the speedy deletion assessment but it left me with no possibility of saving the work I had put in for use elsewhere which as a relative novice is important not to lose everything.
-- Gramscis cousin ( talk) 09:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks -- Gramscis cousin ( talk) 12:50, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi there,
I've got your message with explaining the reason of deletion of the article. I actually don’t mind if it is a personal page or an article as long as it will be clickable and searchable through Victor Zinovyev.
The fact inspiring me to start the Topic was that the will to list the historical fact of true history event - the beginning of the Lindy Hop ( Swing Dance) community in Saint-Petersburg and the first international Saint Petersburg Swing Dance Festival. If we don’t do it now, it would be very possible gone from the attention and people would not know how it was really starting that time (1998 - 2000). I have some material to that Topic and I’ll definitely find other people that are able to contribute.
I wish you could help me with that and guide the inspiration in the right way.
Thank you very much and greetings from cold and sunny Hamburg. ;) Vick ( talk) 14:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, it's me again! I made another mistake, once again involving incorrect capitalization and its effects on link fluency. I mistakenly thought that a certain page had not been created, since I typed a link for it and the link did not bring me to a page, but it turns out that the reason the link didn't take effect was my incorrect capitalization. So I, very confusedly, created a new page. When I realised my mistake, I had already saved the new page My new page is an almost exact doppelganger of the actual link, because I actually copied the original in making my new page. Like i said, I was very confused. I there any way I could delete the new page that I made by mistake? The original page was [[List of In Plain Sight episodes, and the page I made (wow, I'm kicking myself) is List of In Plain Sight Episodes. Can you please help? BookManiac42 ( talk) 23:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again, I can't believe I keep making these stupid mistakes! BookManiac42 ( talk) 16:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Mooonridddengirl. I didn't think I'd be back, but here I am just a few months after retirement. However, I am here to exercise my right to vanish. The process is detailed at WP:VANISH, although I am certain you know this already. As I (foolishly, perhaps?) created my account with my real name as my user name, I would prefer it if all record of this name and its contributions were expunged from Wikipedia and the collection of user data. A username change is customary, and I suggest that you choose any name you like. I have no care for the name chosen, nor am I likely to ever see the name you do choose. I would greatly appreciate your assistance in this matter. In good faith, Jor dan Contribs 00:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey,
Why did you delete the Shame Idols page? If it was not set up correctly please tell me how to go about the process. You can e-mail me at palecat1 AT yahoo.com
Thanks, Bryan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.158.67.184 ( talk) 15:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Family Park Tycoon, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:
All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's
criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "
What Wikipedia is not" and
Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{
dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on
its talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. MuZemike ( talk) 20:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if the message boxes I've put on the talk pages of articles which have been formed using content from other articles (such as Talk:A1 road (London) and Talk:First millennium B.C. in Ireland) are sufficient to satisfy the attribution requirement of the GFDL, when no notice of the merge is given in the relevent edit summary? Sorry to disturb you but you seem to be somewhat of a expert on this type of thing. Regards, Guest9999 ( talk) 14:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Moonriddengirl !!!!
SeisQuaRe
I strongly agree with your approach and I recognize the promotional side of this article.
That was not finished and I worked on the presentation more than on the text.
Could you send it back to my mailbox? I will re-write it without this too much affirmative speech.
I did not able to read it and to save it; I was on rush and I expect to finish it within the night or the day after. At least it was too quickly deleted.
So I apologized for the text.
Thank you again Moonriddengirl because you exactly point the problem and you did not just give a sentence.
Jsrlak (talk) 05:23PM January 8th, 2008 (GMT +1:00) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
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OK, I've figured out the technical parts of it.
The normal (non-image version) can be seen on User:J.delanoy/3 (if you're interested, click "edit" to look at the code. It produces no stray code when used correctly.)
The "image" version can be seen on File:Asdjlgbasdlg. To clean up the code, and to give people an easy way to tell if the template is being used incorrectly (by using Special:WhatLinksHere), I will put the "error" code on a new template, something like Template:Copyvio error, but for now, it just includes the raw code for the error box on the file page.
Do you like the message I give? Or can you think of a better one? J.delanoy gabs adds 20:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl; thanks for your helpful comments. For me this has been a bit complicated but am sure that with some guidance I'll manage. I need to know how to change the bigger title as 'fund' should be written with a Capita F and not a small f. I also would like to know how to hyperlink key words like European Commission, European Social Fund and so forth. Thanks in advance for your help, Antoine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoine Mallia ( talk • contribs) 16:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello again,
Kevin Powell's page has been edited again. I understand the edits regarding the campaign are somehow reasonable to Wikipedia because they represent news articles. However, can you tell me why all information regarding his latest book, The Black Male Handbook: A Blueprint for Life have been omitted? Even the ISBN number at the bottom. Information on The Black Male Handbook was integrated into the writing section and the Books section. At this point they are no longer there.
Please advise.
Kp4c ( talk) 20:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, can you advise what to do in this case? Can the image be speedy deleted? Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 15:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Moonriddengirl,
I took your time, I really appreciate all the help you've given me. I am sending all my best wishes and blessings to you. Thanks
-- TRWebmaster ( talk) 00:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Are these ok to use as hotlinks? Eg [ [2]]. If not, I'd rather you deal with it, I've enough problems with OR, etc from this editor (who has added such links elsewhere) to add another one. Thanks. dougweller ( talk) 17:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello MRG, I hope you've had a good festive period. I'd like your advice on an article which popped up at WP:SCV, if you have the time. I'm not too sure about the copyright status of this piece; while WP:LYRICS tells us that most modern works are copyrighted, this is a "cowboy folk song". There is a very brief explanatory sentence, but the rest of the article is just lyrics, taken from here, but also published here (along with an irritating wav version of the song playing). What's the deal with this? My guess would be that it's old enough to be out of any copyright, but we don't actually know anything about the author etc. Best, – Toon (talk) 22:23, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Ah, it certainly looks that way now. There's never been much in the way of cowboys over here in the UK, so I'm afraid cowboy folk songs never really pop up on my radar... even if it was recorded by Johnny Cash. – Toon (talk) 14:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Kumbaya, Ging Gang Goolie... although campfires are a very American thing; Brits tend to go caravanning, fall out and ignore each other for the whole trip. Either that or get blind drunk. – Toon (talk) 14:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out that my link was not acceptable. I will try to dig up a site that is acceptable. -- Keeblerjesus ( talk) 01:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, why the hell did you deleted Wargames 2.0 Article? Article about a web site that does not assert significance) ???? what a hell? what is that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travian doing at wikipedia? Open your eyes, you never did anything good —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raiderr ( talk • contribs) 04:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi MRG, while I'm thinking about some related areas where we've co-participated (well, you singing and me chirping :), some points:
Anyway, random comments, I can't promise there won't be other passengers hopping on the bus! :) Franamax ( talk) 01:29, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello! While I was rewriting the article, you {{ copyvio}} tagged it. :) Could you take a look at my version here and see if it's a worthy replacement? Cheers, – Toon (talk) 14:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I thought his striking had caused the thing to break. The person who edited after me fixed the problem. hbdragon88 ( talk) 03:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I have edited Deadly Prey again. Im building a bigger article about it, but im waiting until it is complete before I post it. Also, how do I change the header? It reads Deadly prey, And I would really like it to read in capitals (Deadly Prey) Kind regards Lee S -- Larsselleth ( talk) 16:32, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help! -- Larsselleth ( talk) 09:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Hola MRG, I overhauled the Bud Mclearn page for you guys.
But, could you do me a candy-coated favor?
It needs to be moved:
Either:
or
Capital "L" in McLearn.
Thanks,
- 4.240.165.167 ( talk) 10:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
If an admins says so then it is so. But I have a question for you, what do you think of users that are not admins whose sole purpose is to delete content from the wikipedia. Some articles lile Marcus_Brigstocke had some facts that BlowDart removed, because of lacking source (the article now features a source and the information). But googling gave a source after a few seconds, in the wikipedia article about sources it says people should try to find if there are any sources before deleting. What that means is that users like BlowDart scares away new users, and lots of good content gets deleted. Why deleted? because it takes longer time to find a source (helping) than just removing the whole thing. Whats the meaning of one user not contributing with other than deletes of articles, links and other content instead of trying to help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caloss ( talk • contribs) 14:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
So Im asking is there a place where Wikilawyering can be reported in a way that can lead to a warning? (provided I got evidence etc.) -- Caloss ( talk) 14:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
The sections from Note (perfumery) were not in fact copied from [5]. They were taken from the section in the Perfume article, which I contributed significantly to and if I may say, was the main author. I believe "The perfumed court" copied the section for their website from the wikipedia perfume article. As such, please restored the edits to the article :) Sjschen ( talk) 21:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
To check this for yourself see http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Perfume&oldid=214728146. The purpose of the edit is to thin down and take the info from the Perfume#Fragrance_notes section and put it into the article. Sjschen ( talk) 21:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I have come across an article that I'm not sure what to do with. The article is John Austin (tennis) and, somewhere along the line, someone changed the subject of the article to another person of the same name who is a footballer. Any ideas of the procedures to be followed when this happens? I'd appreciate any help. T@nn ( talk) 10:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi there
A volunteer for our charity created a wikipedia page on our behalf. It has been deleted (in Dec 08) and new copy added by yourself. Unfortunately the new copy is inaccurate and out of date. I understand that the previous copy was deleted as it replicated some of the copy on our own website. How can we add this without it being removed? The copy was replicated with express permission by the organisation. Obviously we know that anything on wikipedia can be added to or edited but we would like to ensure that information there to start with is accurate.
Thanks and best wishes
Lesley Pinder Book Aid International lesley.pinder@bookaid.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skips80 ( talk • contribs) 12:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I noticed a message you left at User talk:Stifle, mentioning that the CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are not compatible with the GFDL. Now as far as I was aware, they are, and I actually advised a user not long ago to convert the CC-BY-NC at his website into a CC-BY or CC-BY-SA if we were to use it here. The gnu page states that it's ok for educational stuff, but not for "software or documentation" - I'm very confused. Can you clarify? Oh and the article is Morag Siller from here. It is listed at today's CP. Best, – Toon (talk) 13:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC) Actually, since it says "“Documentation” simply means textbooks and other teaching materials for using equipment or software." this seems to indicate that normal CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are ok for random stuff that isn't Software or its doc. – Toon (talk) 13:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I keep forgetting my talk page says I'll reply on the other person's talk page. I'm not sure which way is best even now! Anyway, if it is straightforward I'm happy to talk to him, if it might be complicated, I don't think I'm up to speed on complicated. dougweller ( talk) 14:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I happened to find a Torball article which you had removed some with copyright problems. I've suspected the History section of Wheelchair tennis has been copied from ITF website (see note of the article).
I don't know how English Wikipedia treats copyright violations very well. Do you think this case (wheelchair tennis) also has copyright problems? And what should I do next? Remove the section, for example?-- HannaLi ( talk) 17:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I have updated the article so can you please check if it's ok for me. A Candela ( talk) 02:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
How's things? A while back you helped me in making Sepultura's Arise a B-Class article, so I'll be asking you for an assistance in something. It has come to my attention that The Metal Observer has been nominated for deletion for since March 2008. Only admins can delete pages, right? Would you know one willing enougth to that? That article has been generating controversy for some time now... and since it has already been scheduled for annihilation, that process might provide some closure for all the parties involved. Musicaindustrial ( talk) 16:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
“ | Maybe see what Metal Observer says: that's one of the few accepted sources here that also actually knows what it's talking about with heavy metal :P As opposed to something like allmusic. | ” |
“ | "I'm pretty sure that nu metal has been significantly influenced by industrial metal." You may be right, unfortunately you are not a reliable source though. Before you add something saying nu metal has been significantly influenced by industrial metal you will need some reliable sources definitively saying just that. Landon1980 ( talk) 03:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC) | ” |
“ | He has reverted you once again and added back his original research/poorly written criticism section. | ” |
Hi Moonridden can you warn this IP and keep an eye on them. I've spotted 3 "totally gay" acts of vandalism within five minutes. Could you also put Rani Mukerji on your watch list it keeps being edited by a user called Martee James and an ip which we believe is him. It isn't blatant vandalism but we have come to some sort of consensus that it is not relevany to the introduction what he is adding as it is a lesser known film. As you can see it has been subject to editing warring. Thanks Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello.
I was about to start a new Article regarding Drewton Tunnel, however it appears you have previously attempted this and it was deleted.
Can you help me out a little as i would like to try and get an article on Wikipedia about this great but forgotten place.
Many Thanks
Antony Myers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antpant7 ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi MRG, if text is translated directly from another language, does it still constitute a copyvio? Saint-Adèle is a word-by-word translation of this site, which shows "All Rights Reserved c. 2004". It's done clumsily enough that you don't really need to know any French to see how directly it's been copied - it's literally word-for-word. Since there is zero creative input, I'd call it a copyvio (or at least a plagio), but you know much more about these things than I, so your advice is appreciated! Franamax ( talk) 18:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, a user here seems to think that becuase the content is copied from mtu .edu, the content is in the public domain. AFAIK, this only applies to content created by the U.S. Federal government. before I stick a big CSD G12 on it, can you confirm/deny? Best wishes, – Toon (talk) 00:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi
Surely you have heard the talk about how Wikipedia is unworthy of trust, that is for the lazy and/or unhappy, full of vandals "Jimbos`s bag of trivia"; Myself i love and trust Wikipedia but i`m not sure of how long can survive the vandals and all that deletion/inclusion crap, the edit wars, POV and all those thing that come with humans.
What do you think? Zidane tribal ( talk) 06:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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Dear Moonriddengirl, you left in my wikipedia page "Tocsin project" this message 20:45, 3 July 2008 Moonriddengirl (Talk | > contribs) deleted > "TOCSIN project" ? > (Unaddressed copyright concerns. > > I find it when the page was just deleted. So now I have create the page again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOCSIN_project and I received the permission, ticket number 2009011410022137. I hope now all is fine. Should I insert the ticket number in Tocsin page? Best regards Mammuffs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mammuffs ( talk • contribs) 13:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I will come back to you in few days if the problem persists. mammuffs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mammuffs ( talk • contribs) 09:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Glad you could do something useful from the Maximilian Stadler article. I appreciate your input. I actually just needed a biographical note on this composer after I quoted him on another article of mine: Music without sound. Thank you. -- Tellus archivist ( talk) 20:48, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Greetings, I'm trying to raise the Grindcore article to a B-Class on the quality scale. Could you help me out to start the evaluation process? I don't recall how it is done... Musicaindustrial ( talk) 11:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I'll fix it. Easily done Robert aka Notafly ( talk) 14:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I suddenly notice that images licensed with CCL or GFDL all now include {{ CommonsEncouraged}} tags. I can't find any sort of discussion on this but it seems all automated because in looking at the history of File:PamEvans 11Jun07.jpg there are no recent edits made but yet the new tags have been added. This is bad because we have an image whose text summary says "Fair use", has incorrect licenses and now has tags suggesting it is safe to move to commons. It also places every single user uploaded file that has been freely licensed into Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons. Just a very quick look confims - File:13318 Noelle.jpg marked with an FUR but tagged as move to commons, File:2Pi-Con Logo.jpg is a logo, File:51A8DUlOX3L.jpg is a CD cover. You get the idea. As an admin maybe you have more insite as to how this happened? (EDIT - hm - maybe this is "who" - Sfan00 IMG contributions. But why?) Soundvisions1 ( talk) 02:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Copyright concern I hope within a week. No more than two Robert Notafly ( talk) 20:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Revise. Notafly ( talk) 20:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your message regarding the article Harry van Bomme. I have re-sent the request for the text to be released in GFDL. It's Friday now, I expect a reply some time next week. To which address should an e-mail with permission be sent? -- Gerrit C U T E D H 14:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
This article has had a 'speedy delete' message on it since November, and the author has written that he/she has created another page with the correct spelling, so I'm requesting that this page be deleted. Also, if I find other such pages, is there a list of people I can contact about it? I don't want to keep bothering the same people about it... T@nn ( talk) 13:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
←Ah. The contributor used the "meta" template. {{Db-meta |bot={{{bot|}}} |criterion=A3 |1= as an article which contains no content whatsoever, or consists only of external links, category tags, a "see also" section, a rephrasing of the title, an attempt to correspond with the person or group named by its title, chat-like comments and/or images |2=[[Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages|Disambiguation pages]] are not eligible for this criterion. A very short article may still be a valid [[Wikipedia:Stub|stub]] if there is sufficient context to identify the subject |temp=nocontent-warn |summary=Article with no useful content }} Voila. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at Wikipedia:Notability (music) that is, more or less, taking the form of discussion after editing, rather than editing after a solid proposal was made and reached a consensus. (look at the edit history, than the talk page.) I thought about a rollback but felt it would be better if an admin who is active in these sort of discussions on the music related criteria looked at it. Thanks. Soundvisions1 ( talk) 00:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Your input was helpful, encouraging and so very much appreciated. Being new, I was feeling frustrated and not getting the kind of feedback that would get me going in the right direction. The rules make sense to me because any Tom, Dick or Harry can attempt to post on this important site, but what I'm trying to add is important as well. It's complicated for a newbie.
I especially liked your comment about not making the title Mary Fisher (AIDS) because it really goes against the entire subject of this incredible woman. How does one change that? And I also need her to link from her father, Max Fisher, also an important figure in American history? How can I do that?
Handley Willoughby ( talk) 16:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonridden girl, I am trying to insert a link that refers to the European Globalisation adjustment Fund here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization#See_also
When I insert an internal link it tells me that that the page does not exist. Can you help? Antoine Mallia ( talk) 09:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
I have not tagged this but thought you might want to have a look. Pam Evans There have been issues with this article in the past and I am not sure what copyvios may or may not have been dealt with but currently there is a letter/email posted but I don't see any OTRS information about it. There are also some quotes referenced/cited as "Personal correspondences (Alosel)" Soundvisions1 ( talk) 15:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I turned the Black presidents article (deleted) into Black presidential candidates in the United States and Black president in popular culture of the United States. People are going to town on the culture one... ChildofMidnight ( talk) 05:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I stumbled across these related articles today:
The Accacha Chronicles, Flamma Flamma, Terra Terra and Amor Aeternus
They consist almost entirely of lengthy quotes from copyrighted texts, mostly the CD booklets, but also Time Magazine, the composer's web site, etc. Credit is given to the sources, but it goes well beyond "brief quotes". I couldn't find any appropriate tags for a situation like this. Template:Non-free doesn't seem to apply to texts. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it ok to have a username of cock-sucker, specifically User talk:Sockcucker13? The person's edits are not so good either. Ipromise ( talk) 06:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Not that you speak the language but the situation confuses me. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Khuntien Ngin/Rendy Marciano. Seems to possibly be spread across many Wikis but not sure what the first source is really. But is does appear to be cut and pastes given the form the subpages seemed to pop up in at on the English Wikipedia. I would say they were cut and pasted form other Wikis because of the formating, but some have been deleted already and they were created here on the same day. (i.e - see http://na.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGTT - deleted from there on January 13 and User:Khuntien Ngin/OGTT - created here on January 13). Interesting so feedback welcome. Perhaps my "delte" opinion is off if it seems to be a legit article(s) in the making. Soundvisions1 ( talk) 20:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I was surprised to read your comments regarding the above-referenced subject. It does make sense to note the copy in the source article, but your statement, "Wikipedia's contributors do not relinquish copyright to the material they author here" raises questions. It was my understanding that no author 'owned' an article, although some editors like to revert changes that they just don't like. Once an article gets tweaked by other contributors, it may be very different from the original. How could the original author possibly claim copyright over the derivative work? Mgreason ( talk) 15:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Happy to help. Zagalejo ^^^ 17:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
What would you like me to do if I find a copyright violation in your list, such as JM Family Enterprises? The paragraphs are essentially copied from Forbes, so should I speedy under G12 and then remove from your list? Or just strike? — Cyclonenim ( talk · contribs · email) 12:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Moonriddengirl. Thanks for the heads up (and the welcome to Wikipedia, which is probably the first I've gotten!). Looking it over, there's definitely not enough reword/rephrasing. I'll go rewrite the portions of that article that are too much like the source. Flying Toaster 17:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
See here. Cheers, -- Gego ( talk) 04:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Can you keep an eye on the Bollywood article. It is infuriating having the revert all the time. see in the last 24 hours alone here. There is a consensus betwene a few of us that the names Martinee James keeps adding are not notable to be mentioned in the main article. Despite this and an addition I added in the last 24 hours he persists on restoring it. Could you keep an eye on things thanks as 3RR is approaching. I've asked him to please cite references and that only the most acclaimed names should be included but he is unwilling to discuss it rationally and continues to disrupt. Thanks. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I think you handled the situation perfectly Moonridden. You're setting a great example for how an admin should act on here, didn't jump in and act rashly but acted fairly based on the edits of the person who only has himself to blame. Kepe up the good admin work! Dr. Blofeld White cat 22:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be best to just bloack his IP address, stop him creating multiple accounts? Are they all registered to the same IP? Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Moonriddengirl, long time no see (again). Would you mind retrieving this article for an adoptee of mine? He wishes to rewrite it, so can you copy it to his sandbox, User:Mr Richard Richter/Sandbox? That would be great, thanks. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 01:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't notice the infringement on Alexander Brest Planetarium. I've been using this tool to check for infringements, and it has caught a couple already (one I'm about to handle). But in that article's case, it didn't catch it. Fun Pika 21:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Just posting to say thanks for addressing the content on the DSDM page, I had noticed a while ago that content seemed to be appearing on the page which was culled from other sources. It's en-heartening to see that people are both actively editing pages on Wikipedia and genuinely interested doing things properly. Semafore ( talk) 23:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I had a page that was recently deleted, and just wanted to leave you a note thanking you for recovering it to my sandbox. Have a great day! Mr Richard Richter ( talk) 15:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
On this page [ [8]] I've discovered vandalism. Scroll down to 8046 Ajiki and you'll find, just below it a reference to a nonexistant asteroid named as 8046B that is "Secret Astroid, ridden by Goku". I click on "edit this page" but obviously the page gets the text from elsewhere. I'm hoping that you would be able to fix this. T@nn ( talk) 16:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl:
Thanks for your help with the Status of Medjugorje article I posted. As you know, the article was deleted because of copyright concerns. The first question I have is, what do I do in order to prove that I am the author of the article? I tried reading some of the Wikipedia articles to discern what I should do, but never really figured it out. Your help would be appreciated.
Secondly, it was recommended that I move the article over to Our Lady of Medjugorje and post it there. Once the verification that I am the author is settled, can I post the article there, and if so, would I do it by pasting my article over the top of the existing article? This would delete the existing 2 paragraphs (not much there currently). I don't want to proceed in a manner that is un-wiki-like. :)
Thanks for your help!
Craig Turner Peterfranciw ( talk) 21:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)peterfranciw
Before I post everything on the copyright discussion page, I wanted to discuss this with you so we can already present a concept for co-publishing on the copyright page.
Ok, let's see how we proceed: I am very much in favor of a solution as we added some good articles (mainly on the german wikipedia). I think that spreading quality-controlled texts is a good idea. That is the reason for trying to co-publish as there are legal problems otherwise. Here some thoughts for legal worst case scenarios (i hate my law studies):
This said, we should not overreact ( Wikipedia:Avoid copyright paranoia). Perhaps we can find a way where we establish my position as admin (how to do that in a way that would save me from litigation I do not know, but fine) and my right to act on non-exclusive rights given to eLib by authors - also for the co-publishing process. This way, at least I personally could add eLib texts which would mean some work but also more content. How should we do that? Cheers, -- Gego ( talk) 09:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
The sock is back with another account (apparently, he was waiting for the opportunity to be able to edit that article). I think the article should be protected from any edits. Shahid • Talk2me 14:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Mary Fisher
Hello again. You were helping me make changes to get a page up on Mary Fisher the activist. When I came back to work on it, I found a page up on its own! How do I know who put that page up? Some of the information is incorrect and/or not necessarily what they were hoping to have out there in this format. Is there anything a person can do about that? How do I find out who made the page?
Thank you again Handley Willoughby ( talk) 20:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
You have been so helpful. Thank you again. Handley Willoughby ( talk) 21:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the 'conflict of interest' link - it was helpful. I only want to help people (and wiki), so I feel entirely comfortable with how to keep it encyclopedic. Which brings me to my current problem - there is one urgent fact missing from the page and I'm concerned for the impact it might have on others. Mary went back on the medication not long after that article you found that stated she had stopped. I'd hate to have people interpret that as a reason to stop. If I can't find a 'source' for this information, how can I get that very important point across? Thank you again! Handley Willoughby ( talk) 22:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I haven't been able to find anything public. Can I just take that fact down for now, or do I need to have a reason? I can go back and put it back up later?! Thanks! Handley Willoughby ( talk) 19:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Moonriddengirl. I've done an initial rewrite of the Army worm article and put it here. The same sources as before were used, but rephrased and rewritten. It'd be awesome if you could take a quick look at that, and if you're satisfied that it's no longer a copyright problem I'll add it back in. If not, I can rewrite any portion you feel needs some work. Thanks! Flying Toaster 18:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
“ | The life cycle is completed in about 30 days during the summer, but 60 days in the spring and autumn, and 80 to 90 days during the winter. The number of generations occurring in an area varies with the appearance of the dispersing adults. The ability to diapause is not present in this species. In Minnesota and New York, where fall armyworm moths do not appear until August, there may be but a single generation. The number of generations is reported to be one to two in Kansas, three in South Carolina, and four in Louisiana. | ” |
“ | The life cycle of the fall army worm varies in length by season; 30 days in the summer, 60 in the spring and fall, and 80 to 90 days in the winter. How many generations a population of fall army worms go through depends on when they appear in a region, with more southern locations reporting more generations. For instance, in Minnesota and New York they do not appear until August and may only live for a single generation. However, in Kansas they go through one to two generations, in South Carolina they go through three, and in Louisiana they go through four.[4] | ” |
“ | The life cycle of the fall army worm varies in length by season; typical life cycle during the summer is 30 days, but this doubles in spring and autumn and as much as triples in winter. How many generations a population of fall army worms goes through depends on when they appear in a region, ranging from four in areas like Louisiana where the moths make an early appearance to one in such locations as Minnesota and New York. | ” |
Hi MRG, I know I've promised to get active again on a certain topic but in the meantime:
Do you have any comments on this? I'm not sure that was the right place to ask the question, or even if I actually asked any clear question. :) Thanks! Franamax ( talk) 01:54, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, sorry to take so long getting back to you about this exoticindia.com. I do still have the e-mails from them securely in my saved messages folder. They initially wanted to stipulate non-commercial use only, but, after I explained that that wouldn't be possible, I received an e-mail from @exoticindia.com on Aug. 5, 2005 reading in part "I have discussed the issue with Seema. She has informed me that as per your suggestion the credit to our text will be mentioned in the Edit Summary. In case the source is appropriately credited, you can use our text content freely on Wikipedia. However, we have to be more particular about the possible end use of our images. I have therefore requested Seema not to list our images on Wikipedia for now." Please advise how to proceed.— Nat Krause( Talk!· What have I done?) 02:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I plan to work on the temporary version further and would hugely appreciate a few more days. Thanks very much. Flying Toaster 19:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Are you able to give me back my temp page, which was a work in progress. Thanks for your comments. ( i know minus the text)
Some information I would think would be very similar to the company's website because of factual information. I was following some other mining companies wik's for formatting.
The information I had was stating the company's public company symbol and what type of projects they have ongoing. I can't really change that too much as they are public and anything that gets released on its own website or press release is scrutinized by the stock exchange. The information I was putting up may seem like it is copyright, but with public companies, it is more like factual public information that shouldn't be modified and is allowed to be disseminated.
My goal is to describe the company, give a blurb about the company and users can use the external link section or link back to the company website for more information. I do not want to have copyright concerns even though the information was provided by the company, i just don't want to change it drastically.
However, I have no problem re-wording areas that I can and give obvious reference to the source which I believe follows protocol for the copyright issue.
you mentioned "as long as the information comes from a cited source, you don't need to duplicate the language (and must not, to comply with our copyright policy"
If I put up exactly what i had before and right underneath the article put cited source and a link.. will that work and solve my problems?
thank you again and I will keep learning to avoid these mistakes in future postings.
Newdesignnow ( talk) 20:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)newdesignnow
thanks you are the best! Newdesignnow ( talk) 20:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)newdesignnow
I think i get what other people have done. If I am getting information from tirex and they have that on their website. I can keep the information exactly the same, but put a little reference tag and have a reference section to where it can be found on the net. Will that work?
Newdesignnow ( talk) 20:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)newdesignnow
Hello Who Are YOU! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.252.203.226 ( talk) 00:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello firend! I need your help on Bollywood films and plagiarism. One user, Zhanzhao ( talk · contribs) has been adding films to the list of "Films alleged to contain plagiarism", using completely unreliable sources, even blogs.
Back in time, he was at first saying such things as "It's a clear remake, we all know that". He was (and still is) under the impression that sources must not be added. Then he started adding sources when he saw that his edits are otherwise reverted. But most of them were blogs and fansites. I cleaned up the list, leaving only the titles that use reliable sources. Asked him to find reliable sources, as per WP:RS. Now he keeps reverting my edits to his own version asking me to prove hat they are unreliable. I (believe me, I know exactly what can and what cannot be considered reliable as someone who wrote a FA about an Indian actor and even had many troubles because of that) explained that the burden of proof is on him, and as for the sources, he is the one who adds them, hence he is the one who must prove their reliability when they are questioned.
As you were able to spot in the near past. I even added some sources myself. Today for example I removed a questionable source and replaced it with an Indian newspaper. It does not help, and the page is still being reverted (and the unreliable sources re-added). Could you please help me somehow? Talk to him? Protect the page? Or anything else? Shahid • Talk2me 12:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick action on Microwave power transmission - sometimes it takes a while to track back into the edit history and find when particular phrases were added. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 16:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I see you are very involved in dealing with copyright violations, could you please take a look at this case: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Anonmoos.27_copyright_violation Thank you -- Falastine fee Qalby ( talk) 18:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi.
By any chance do you know whose idea was to ALWAYS put a table in the track listing for those albums, i haven`t really learned to work with them, wich make it a real pain, but i don`t want to remove them if some guideline or concensus says i can`t.
Thanks Zidane tribal ( talk) 23:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be an edit war in this article with one person continually redirecting the page to another and one person restoring the page and the two of them alternating undoing the edits of the other. I don't know if you can do anything about it, but it's beginning to annoy me (I attempted to get it categorised by putting it in the January category of articles to be categorised and, once again, it's in the specialpages of uncategorised articles). T@nn ( talk) 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I was composing a fairly long message to this user which I posted after you blocked him (it was a new section so I didn't see the block message before I posted it) - it's on his talk, hopefully he'll take it on board when his block expires. Exxolon ( talk) 16:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
How about nominating this for GA? Hekerui ( talk) 02:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl. Sorry to bother you again, but I'm trying to get rid of the broken references on some of the articles and I simply can't seem to get rid of the one on this article, no matter where I put the reflist: I've tried to put it in the usual place where I put it (just above the categories) and that has worked in other articles but not this one. Then I tried another place (as you can from the current state of the page) and that didn't work either. Do you have any idea of why that is and what can be done? T@nn ( talk) 15:53, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
NuclearWarfare ( Talk) 18:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I see you removed information about me Kennan Ward. Although I consider myself at least average I say it is semantics to say you can not use information I provide about myself and than publish similar writings people submit with minor or one change??
Could you imagine going through all this writing something new to find the same result. I may be hard to learn your very specific ways but I think it may help you to be flexible to real people.
I submitted a starting point for others to add after some hundred requests from art collectors. I actually thought I was helping Wikipedia.
I can not put a GFDL on my website as I have many copyright images. The text is a whole other situation especially about us?
I hope you can understand.
PEACE,
Kennan Ward-- Kennanward ( talk) 01:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. You'll need to delete this users account and get him renamed. Unless it is Everett McGill himself then it violates the living person thing doesn't it. Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thank you very much! I was just talking with a friend who was going to help me put together the sourcing, I owe you a big thanks! I will still look to add more the article. I appreciate all of you help. Tbolden ( talk) 19:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you as well for your work in identifying the problems with the article. Well above and beyond just admin monitoring the copyright violations page! I haven't checked your history to see if anyone barnstared you for your work on that Copyright Violations page, but heck if they haven't you unquestionably deserve it. You did an amazing job on putting together the citations. I was talking to Tbolden on the phone walking him through what to do, and you did it all! jbolden1517 Talk 06:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your compliment and your encouraging words, they mean a lot. Thanks again, I plan to add to the article Tbolden ( talk) 15:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Moonriddengirl, I guess I should also ask you, is there anything else you would recommend I do to get the article to either good article or (gasp!) even featured article status. Seriously though any suggestions, I originally started this as something kind of fun to do and did not expect the feedback you have given, but I have found the process of writing the article to be a good reminder of the value of hospice care. Again thanks for your support. Tbolden ( talk) 22:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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No problem. It has to be done, after all.
I think the biggest challenge will be checking the Jacksonville, Florida article, because of its size and Mgreason's long-time involvement with it. We'll need a few eyes on that one. Zagalejo ^^^ 19:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
A very sincere thank you and wow - for your work on the Indonesian articles this morning - it is very much appreciated - clearly an improvement - Satu Suro 01:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
SIUT (Sindh Institute Of Urology & Transplantation) Karachi page has been deleted in the list hospitals of Karachi. I wonder why this has been done because this the state of the art hospital providing urological sevices as well as renal transplant free of cost. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saima76 ( talk • contribs) 08:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Once again, above and beyond the call of duty.;-) I lose patience after I see the umpteenth paste job from a web site. You know that box that appears when you create an article...
Has the English Wikpedia ever thought of adding something to the effect of...
They have it on the Italian Wikipedia. [11] No one reads the stuff at the bottom of the editing page. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 19:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
← I'm going to be away for the next 5 days, but I'll have a look when I get back. It's an important topic. As for the student, clueless I guess. We failed another one whose essay was a verbatim copy from a book chapter (not mine). We gave her a chance to re-write with no grade penalty and she submitted a new essay two months later copied from... er... a different chapter in the same book. Often times, people really do know what they're doing, but hope against hope that no one will notice. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Kennan Ward page.
I placed in the text and on the web site the following.
The text on this page only is available as GFDL to support Wikipedia. KWP2009--Kennanward (talk) 20:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Kennan-- Kennanward ( talk) 21:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)-- Kennanward ( talk) 21:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not the sort to review Good Article nominees, but I lvoe giving free advice. I'd suggest combining all the small sections in Jimmy Norman under an overrarching "Biography" banner for better organization. Avoid "personal life" sections, especially since this one is so small; work personal information into the appropriate subsections. WesleyDodds ( talk) 12:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Pardon the interruption, but I saw
this, and I thought from what I've seen so far on various boards and such - that perhaps it wasn't proper. I don't think I'm on the best of terms with the editor at the moment, didn't want to inflame anything, and wanted to be discreet as well. While I may not agree with the editor on some things, I lost my love of USENET bickering years ago - so I wanted to ask someone online who would had a better understanding of policy and guidelines than I do. Thanks.
— Ched (
talk)
01:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your input. I added a bit more to the page. I want to go slowly on this page. Can you take a look how I did the referencing. thanks Newdesignnow ( talk) 07:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)newdesignnow
Hello Moonriddengirl:
A little suspicious duplication I found in Necklace#History. The quaint writing style used in the history section sent me looking for a source.
The section matches the first part of:
http://www.jjkent.com/articles/jewels-necklaces-history.htm
(aside from a spelling change from Hindoo to Hindu)
The History text was added on Nov. 20, 2007.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Necklace&diff=172798192&oldid=171724225
The text on JJKent.com is marked as copyright 2004.
I'm leaving this note here as I don't know what to do about it. IMO it is a very scattered history, not an encyclopedic one, so it might be best just to delete it. However, the information given does serve to indicate the great antiquity of necklaces.
Best wishes, Wanderer57 ( talk) 17:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
An editor recently added a paragraph to 2008-2009 Israel-Gaza conflict consisting mostly of quotations of copyrighted text from the same source. (About 7 sentences to be exact). Based on this guideline: "extensive quotation of copyrighted text is prohibited", I removed all but one quoted sentence. [14] There are some other issues like undue weight and POV, but I want your opinion on the the legal aspect of it, does the editor's version violate the quotation policy and was my action justified? Thank you-- Falastine fee Qalby ( talk) 18:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
←First let me note that the "quotations" you removed were not all correctly attributed. The article at the point of your link indicated Cotler said that "Any use of a civilian infrastructure to launch bombs is itself a war crime. Hamas bears legal responsibility for the harm to civilians in areas from which it fires is enshrined throughout international law". The source does not mesh with this. It does not quote Cotler saying the second of those sentences. It is paraphrasing Cotler: "That Hamas bears legal responsibility for the harm to civilians in areas from which it fires is enshrined throughout international law, he said:" For that reason alone, the material would need to be revised. Even if the article were to quote that text, it would need to properly attribute it to Haviv Rettig Gur. ("According to Haviv Rettig Gur, Cotler indicated "[t]hat Hamas bears....")
That said, in my opinion, your action was quite justified because the use of quotation is unnecessarily extensive. The guideline in question here is the non-free content guideline, which is where the language you quote above originally comes from. Whether or not the quotation exceeds fair use (and it might; see below), our NFC guideline call for four factors in making use of non-free media (print media included):
Fair use, as I said, is questionable. Among the four factors to consider, of greatest concern here is that (a) Wikipedia aspires to be free for commercial reuse (affecting factor 1: purpose & character) and (b) the quotation represents a substantial portion of the original according to my quick check at http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/charcount.shtml (affecting factor 3: size and substantiality). However, whether or not the text conforms to fair use would really only be definable by a court of law. What we need to figure out is if it conforms to Wikipedia's guidelines.
This is unlikely. While a few quotations may be necessary to (as NFC says) "illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea", much of this could be summarized in original language. For a single example:
Cotler noted that international law holds Hamas responsible for any harm suffered by civilians as a result of its launching bombs from a civilian infrastructure, which according to him is a war crime.
Fresh language, no quotations necessary. It seems to me that we could easily replace that copyrighted text, although some brief quotations from that material might be appropriate if Cotler were using specific language that could be difficult to convey otherwise.
I hope that's not too convoluted a response. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Fal's original claim was copyright violation. No extensive argument was made until after-the-fact. His first deletion was a short statement made by Cotler, which he considered "plagiarism." I said ok to that, and replaced the quotes with the Jpost source which includes quotations and is verifiable. I was simply trying to compromise here, there was no need to delete entire sources on grounds of undue weight. For those who are unaware, the entire article has been disputed top to bottom and that kind of excuse must be justified with a consensus before deleting sourced info IMO. I do agree some of the quotes could have been trimmed, but deleting entire paragraphs is an extremely aggressive tactic, especially when it is sourced and not OR. I do understand your claim of non-free content but I don't understand your rationale. The quotations were properly attributed to Coltler. Whether he was inferring or borrowing opinions from other experts doesn't separate the fact that it was Cotler's own words. And in the event that a portion of the quotes weren't in his own words, say a phrase...the solution is simple. Delete the phrase or source it to the proper expert. Deleting entire paragraphs is a cause for concern in such a polarized article. If you could please quote specifically what is the "non-free info", that would be beneficial. It's hard for me to accept the fact that the entire paragraph wasn't free, I don't understand that rationale from your post above, especially when the current sentence here comes from the same source. Is that non-free also?
A note: Fal and I have a rather unsettling history, so keep in mind that this whole discussion could be motivated from personal inclinations (from both of us) and not necessarily for the actual article. Trying to assume good faith here, trust me lol. I just wanted to make sure you knew that admin. Wikifan12345 ( talk) 00:23, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I too have been experiencing the same technical issues. Your links make sense, but it still doesn't address my most important claim: The section I linked contains vast amounts of quotations, not all from the UN (mostly news), that greatly exceed the current sentence. Again, I find it rather odd how the users felt it was necessary to simply delete everything, first under plagiarism accusation (not true), than under copyright claim (which might be true but to a different extend), and now fair-use. It seems the excuses changes depend on how I respond, which is questionable. Anyways, under your reasoning, could I paraphrase the other quotations (though more concise) by the example you gave? I could probably do it, I just don't see why I should have to seeing as how the rest of the article isn't put under the same microscope. And fal, I don't see anything wrong with my posts. I appreciate Moon's patience, maybe she's a friend of yours I don't know but I shouldn't have to put smiley faces and hearts to convey a sense of cordiality. Am I being hostile Moon? Are my posts offensive? :D Wikifan12345 ( talk) 02:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)