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Hi Money emoji. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers
" user group. Please check back at
WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as
patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the
New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encylopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at
New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the
deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the
new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember:
The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. ~Swarm~ {sting} 04:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
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Welcome, Money emoji to the New Page Patrol team.
Congratulations on receiving the New Page Patrol user permission and on becoming a part of the patroller community. Our mission is to accurately, rather than quickly, handle the new articles which are created. As you begin to patrol it's natural to have lots of questions. Feel free to ask on my talk page or ask for thoughts in the New Page Patroller IRC channel #wikimedia-npp connect or on our Discord server ( invite link). We also regularly discuss issues and topics surrounding New Page Patrolling at the NPP discussion page and I would invite you to join us there. I hope you find NPP as rewarding as I do and, again, welcome to the community. ___ CAPTAIN MEDUSA talk 06:40, 5 July 2019 (UTC) |
Hello Moneytrees,
More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.
Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.
The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.
NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.
Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.
Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.
School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.
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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 12:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
I can't find a way to see what the specific alleged copyright violation is. There's a listing on Wikipedia:Copyright problems where you say there's "too many Billy edits" but I have no idea what that means, and the copyright notice's Duplication Detector report and Copyvios report both try to use "see talk" as a source and end up loading nothing. The talk page is equally vague and unhelpful. ~ GMH talk to me 03:01, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Welcome to NPP. You reviewed User:Abbycarroll at 2140 MDT. At 2241 MDT, an administrator deleted it as an attack page. I know this because another editor contacted me off wiki and told me about it, as it was attacking me. Please be more careful. Thanks. John from Idegon ( talk) 06:08, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
I did a brief sweep through
Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Elisa.rolle, but I'm not sure I've tagged things properly. I've used {{
y}}
to mean "this is not a copyvio" and {{
n}}
to mean "this is problematic and needs attention". Or is it the other way round?
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
22:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks for your tireless work at CCI recently - something that I no longer have the time or patience for. A suggestion for your guide to CCI: please mention that edits by block evading sockpuppets can and should be summarily reverted and their page creations should be speedily deleted under G5 (should because copyvio is involved, something I highly encourage). Even if not eligible for summary removal because of block evasion, you shouldn't bother performing a full investigation into the added content. MER-C 20:20, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --
— Maile (
talk)
01:17, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello:
The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Pizzagate conspiracy theory has been completed.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Best of luck with the FA process.
Regards,
Twofingered Typist ( talk) 13:57, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Quotations in "Formatting."
"Quotations should generally be worked into the article text, so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article. Longer quotes may need to be set apart, generally through the use of wikitext templates such as {{h3}}{{Quote}}
or the HTML blockquote element. Longer quotations may also be hidden in the reference (footnote) to facilitate verification by other editors without sacrificing readability."
The blockquote is acceptable per this policy. Also see Wikipedia:Non-free content. Thanks!
dawnleelynn (talk) 19:15, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Money emoji! Wow, it's been quite some time since we've said hi to one another... I just wanted to leave you a message and wish you a great day and happy editing, and let you know that I was thinking about you... I hope you're doing well, and I hope you remain active in this project and that we keep in touch. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 06:23, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello Moneytrees,
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.
Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.
Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.
DannyS712 bot III is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.
Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings.
MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 22:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for your work on copyright issues. Lately I have run into a serious problem: I have been doing an extremely high proportion of the reviewing of the listings at CopyPatrol, having done 50 to 75 reviews daily for the last few weeks. It's not realistic to think that I can keep this up indefinitely, as it consumes many hours each day, and it's not good for me to spend so much time in front of the computer. And if for some reason I become unavailable the results will be dire. What I'm hoping to do is recruit a small group of experienced users who visit Copypatrol daily and clear 5 to 10 cases each, to help spread the burden around a little bit, as well as create a cadre of people who can take over if for some reason I am not able to edit any more. Since you've got some experience in copyright clean-up, I am inviting you to consider visiting the page on a regular basis – even daily, like I do! – and clearing a number of cases. It would be a really big help if you could! Thanks for your time, — Diannaa 🍁 ( talk) 20:00, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
I declined a G5 nomination on this article. Firstly, the subject looks notable or at least possible to redirect, so deleting it would be cutting off our nose to spite our face, and Therequiembellishere ( talk · contribs) has done some editing on it, so I don't think it qualifies as having "only one significant contributor". Hope that makes sense. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:01, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Fixed.For pd sources I use the template I added to Lasiommata petropolitana with the ref. I hope correctly.Thanks for your notice and best regards Notafly ( talk) 20:39, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Money emoji, regarding edits like this, are you aware of WP:LIMITED? Sometimes there are limited ways to say the same thing. Seems better to just reword as much as possible instead of remove the content.
If you reply, I ask that you don't ping me. I'll check back. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 04:02, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 10 |
Hi Money emoji. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers
" user group. Please check back at
WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as
patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the
New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encylopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at
New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the
deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the
new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember:
The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. ~Swarm~ {sting} 04:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
![]() |
Welcome, Money emoji to the New Page Patrol team.
Congratulations on receiving the New Page Patrol user permission and on becoming a part of the patroller community. Our mission is to accurately, rather than quickly, handle the new articles which are created. As you begin to patrol it's natural to have lots of questions. Feel free to ask on my talk page or ask for thoughts in the New Page Patroller IRC channel #wikimedia-npp connect or on our Discord server ( invite link). We also regularly discuss issues and topics surrounding New Page Patrolling at the NPP discussion page and I would invite you to join us there. I hope you find NPP as rewarding as I do and, again, welcome to the community. ___ CAPTAIN MEDUSA talk 06:40, 5 July 2019 (UTC) |
Hello Moneytrees,
More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.
Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.
The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.
NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.
Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.
Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.
School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.
Stay up to date with even more news –
subscribe to The Signpost.
Go
here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 12:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
I can't find a way to see what the specific alleged copyright violation is. There's a listing on Wikipedia:Copyright problems where you say there's "too many Billy edits" but I have no idea what that means, and the copyright notice's Duplication Detector report and Copyvios report both try to use "see talk" as a source and end up loading nothing. The talk page is equally vague and unhelpful. ~ GMH talk to me 03:01, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Welcome to NPP. You reviewed User:Abbycarroll at 2140 MDT. At 2241 MDT, an administrator deleted it as an attack page. I know this because another editor contacted me off wiki and told me about it, as it was attacking me. Please be more careful. Thanks. John from Idegon ( talk) 06:08, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
I did a brief sweep through
Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Elisa.rolle, but I'm not sure I've tagged things properly. I've used {{
y}}
to mean "this is not a copyvio" and {{
n}}
to mean "this is problematic and needs attention". Or is it the other way round?
Ritchie333
(talk)
(cont)
22:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks for your tireless work at CCI recently - something that I no longer have the time or patience for. A suggestion for your guide to CCI: please mention that edits by block evading sockpuppets can and should be summarily reverted and their page creations should be speedily deleted under G5 (should because copyvio is involved, something I highly encourage). Even if not eligible for summary removal because of block evasion, you shouldn't bother performing a full investigation into the added content. MER-C 20:20, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --
— Maile (
talk)
01:17, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello:
The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Pizzagate conspiracy theory has been completed.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Best of luck with the FA process.
Regards,
Twofingered Typist ( talk) 13:57, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Quotations in "Formatting."
"Quotations should generally be worked into the article text, so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article. Longer quotes may need to be set apart, generally through the use of wikitext templates such as {{h3}}{{Quote}}
or the HTML blockquote element. Longer quotations may also be hidden in the reference (footnote) to facilitate verification by other editors without sacrificing readability."
The blockquote is acceptable per this policy. Also see Wikipedia:Non-free content. Thanks!
dawnleelynn (talk) 19:15, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Money emoji! Wow, it's been quite some time since we've said hi to one another... I just wanted to leave you a message and wish you a great day and happy editing, and let you know that I was thinking about you... I hope you're doing well, and I hope you remain active in this project and that we keep in touch. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 06:23, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello Moneytrees,
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.
Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.
Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.
DannyS712 bot III is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.
Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings.
MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 22:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for your work on copyright issues. Lately I have run into a serious problem: I have been doing an extremely high proportion of the reviewing of the listings at CopyPatrol, having done 50 to 75 reviews daily for the last few weeks. It's not realistic to think that I can keep this up indefinitely, as it consumes many hours each day, and it's not good for me to spend so much time in front of the computer. And if for some reason I become unavailable the results will be dire. What I'm hoping to do is recruit a small group of experienced users who visit Copypatrol daily and clear 5 to 10 cases each, to help spread the burden around a little bit, as well as create a cadre of people who can take over if for some reason I am not able to edit any more. Since you've got some experience in copyright clean-up, I am inviting you to consider visiting the page on a regular basis – even daily, like I do! – and clearing a number of cases. It would be a really big help if you could! Thanks for your time, — Diannaa 🍁 ( talk) 20:00, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
I declined a G5 nomination on this article. Firstly, the subject looks notable or at least possible to redirect, so deleting it would be cutting off our nose to spite our face, and Therequiembellishere ( talk · contribs) has done some editing on it, so I don't think it qualifies as having "only one significant contributor". Hope that makes sense. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:01, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Fixed.For pd sources I use the template I added to Lasiommata petropolitana with the ref. I hope correctly.Thanks for your notice and best regards Notafly ( talk) 20:39, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Money emoji, regarding edits like this, are you aware of WP:LIMITED? Sometimes there are limited ways to say the same thing. Seems better to just reword as much as possible instead of remove the content.
If you reply, I ask that you don't ping me. I'll check back. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 04:02, 19 October 2019 (UTC)