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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:26, 21 December 2015 (UTC) |
Warmest Wishes for Health, Wealth and Wisdom through the Holidays and the Coming Year! Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 00:12, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
I've been asking around, but I'd like your take. In your view, what, other than a ban, would be a good outcome here? As for my interest, I'm a professional proofreader and editor. I've focused on pages that concern my area of expertise. Darkfrog24 ( talk) 19:50, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Killer C suggested one edit a day for a specific period. That's the sort of thing that I'd find feasible. As for "figure it out on your own," that's where I got the "support but don't initiate" policy that I've been using for the past few years, but it doesn't seem to meet everyone's standards. Expecting me to perform or stop performing an action is one thing, but I can't read anyone's mind. I can only ask them to tell me what they think. Or look at it this way. I heard "Jump." Now I'm asking "How high?" Darkfrog24 ( talk) 18:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
I am contacting you because of your involvement in the topic ban that was placed against me. I would like to make the best of the next six months and am requesting your input on how best to do so.
What do you see as the appropriate way to oppose a longstanding Wikipedia MoS rule? My own take was to initiate no new threads or RfCs but participate in those started by others (which happens once or twice a year). This clearly was not something that you guys consider acceptable. What do you think I should do instead? Is it just that there was too much of it?
I notice that my offers to engage in a voluntary restriction were not accepted. What would you have seen as more suitable? Is it that I was asking you guys what you wanted me to do instead of making my own guesses?
What can I do over the next six months to give you guys confidence that I can be allowed to return to work?
I am understanding the topic ban to cover both MoS pages, articles concerning quotation marks, and their respective talk pages. Is this the case? Before I became involved, both Quotation marks in English and Full stop contained significant amounts of unsourced material and I am worried that that content will be returned. If I should happen to see such a case, am I allowed to notify someone else that the unsourced material is there?
I also feel that user SMcCandlish was not honest with you and should be treated as an outlier. Darkfrog24 ( talk) 14:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain, it has been awhile since I saw you. I hope you've doing well. I have an article nominated for FAC. It's Juan Manuel de Rosas. It's all good, except that it doesn't have a source review. Would you mind doing it? I'd be very grateful. Regards, -- Lecen ( talk) 19:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I saw the above was archived. I have to wait 2 weeks to renominate right?-- Will C 01:09, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I was like just going to ask people to do quid pro quo reviews of the Briarcliff Farms article. Can you waive the two week restriction for renominating as Ian Rose did to the Briarcliff Manor article for me? Seems I can never get enough attention to these reviews (the closing due to lack of attention and successful renomination has happened to me twice already), so someone suggested the quid pro quo earlier today, which I was going to do when I got back home... ɱ (talk · vbm · coi) 00:26, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I just voted below you in an RFA. I use
this syntax highlighter, and because the font tags in your signature have an extra space, it caused everything below your signature to be highlighted, making the highlighting useless. Could you change both closing font tags to remove the final space, so that the tags are closed correctly (</font>
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Hawkeye7 RfA Appreciation award |
Thank you for participating in and supporting my RfA per WP:NETPOSITIVE. It was very much appreciated. Hawkeye7 ( talk) 20:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC) |
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Thank you for participating at my RfA. Your support was very much appreciated even if I did get a bit scorched. Brianhe ( talk) 02:55, 6 February 2016 (UTC) |
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Thank you for participating and supporting at my RfA. It was very much appreciated, and I am humbled that the community saw fit to trust me with the tools. Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 03:11, 6 February 2016 (UTC) |
Your revert, - I assume that was a rather new editor, - at least I welcomed them only today. How about explaining on the user's talk page why you find the addition "unhelpful"? (I found it helpful, but will try to stay away.) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
I was not intentionally "monitoring" DF, I can assure you. I'm the one that filed the MfD for the relevant page, and so saw Smokey Joe's ping. I had no desire to get involved in yet another DF saga. Regardless, I shall unwatch DF's talk page, and shall not participate in any further enforcement of the TB, even if I'm directly referenced. I appreciate your swift action in this matter. RGloucester — ☎ 23:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
I've taken a few days to think about this: When I mentioned SMcCandlish's statement as a major contributing factor to the topic ban, you said I was off-base. Do you mean that you already knew he was misrepresenting the situation and took that into account when you looked at the diffs or that you do not think that his assertions were misrepresentations? Darkfrog24 ( talk) 16:48, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Hey,
I noticed you did quite some edits on The arts, wanted to let you know I opened a discussion for potential merger between Art and The arts, based primarily on the large overlap between the 2 articles. I can understand there's nuances between those 2 terms from a dictionary point of view, but not sure if that warrants 2 seperate articles. Would appreciate if you could give your input. >>>Discussion here<<< 92.71.13.2 ( talk) 16:58, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
I know you're probably all over it but any chance of getting the 'tribs nuked ? Mlpearc ( open channel) 18:04, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
"FAC has a specific policy that there are a limited set of people whose opinions matter regarding NFCC." I was not aware of any such policy at FAC? Have I been out of touch that long? Ealdgyth - Talk 17:06, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Laser brain, TripWire left a note at AE that he is leaving for a couple of days on a personal business and will not be editing during that time. Looks like he forgot to pare it down or maybe did not have enough time due to some emergency. Maybe you want to consider the longer response this one time.
Also, if you can be kind enough and consider my statement left at User talk:Spartaz#Statement by SheriffIsInTown and move it to that AE discussion since Spartaz asked me not to comment and only leave a message at his talk. If you cannot move, please consider my statement while making your decision. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:43, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
The Wordsmith Talk to me 17:00, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Hey LB, I think this FAC is ready to be promoted, but wanted your feedback. (Does the @FAC ping no longer work?) Also would I still need to wait two weeks after a successful nom to nominate another ready, peer reviewed article? czar 15:24, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Respectfully request at AE a reconsideration of your comments at AE. I have recently completed my statement, at your urging adding a thorough explanation of the reported edits. Sincerely, no topic ban violation or boundary testing was intended. Respectfully request good faith consideration of the context of a re-focus of my volunteer work in the area of climate change. Thank you. Hugh ( talk) 16:43, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain, you were involved with this recent ARE [6]. I think the editor in question has again violated the TBAN but I also think my recent frustration with his various edits and behavior may cloud my judgment. Thus I'm asking this as a sanity check and based on a suggestion here [7]. Please note after asking Dennis, I asked Bishonen who wasn't sure [8]. Two edits to the Exxon Mobil article were made by the editor in question almost immediately after the related ARE was closed [9], [10]. These edits seem very similar to and include the same article as edits identified by another admin as violations [11], [12]. The ARE topic block was expanded: "I am enacting Dennis Brown's topic ban extension, and explicitly expanding it to include addressing conservative politics on non-conservative-politics articles." As a sanity check would you read the new edits as likely violations? Thanks Springee ( talk) 15:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain, having discussed the issue with the editor below, do you feel this is something that should be reviewed further? The editor is still active on the ExxonMobil climate change talk page and has been editing in a way that is not conducive to consensus building. [13] Springee ( talk) 00:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for notifying me of the ongoing campaigning; I was not pinged into the notice. Sorry you have been dragged into this. I'm vexxed, too, and have been for going on a year now. I was sure by now every Wikipedian was aware of Springee's long history with their project of sanctioning HughD. For background, forgive me if you are already familiar, please see for example:
I take to heart all advice offered by colleagues; if only some of my colleagues took a similar mature attitude.
You need to avoid this in the future, I can't see how you would have found this unless you were monitoring Hugh's edits. Therefore stop doing that and avoid commenting on Hugh's edits.
Springee has been reminded of this multiple times sadly to no avail.
Respectfully, a reminder: I am banned from recent conservative American politics; I am not banned from climate change or politics or topics that some may consider political, which is of course all topics. Last winter our arbitration committee cleaned up and consolidated areas of dispute; they may be interested in a case which might provide a basis for further consolidation by subsuming climate change under American politics, or perhaps clarifying that conservative politics is subsumed under politics.
Springee brings two specific edits at ExxonMobil to your attention claiming they demand administrative action. First, please understand the important context of Springee contacting you: their relentless project to sanction HughD. Next, please understand the context of this particular article, that Springee followed me, to ExxonMobil, then followed me to the POV split ExxonMobil climate change controversy, then harassed me with such vigor that ExxonMobil climate change controversy became his top edited article! Next, recognize that my area of interest, climate, the term "denial" is often vandalized, and the intention of my edits was to revert one such vandalism. Please note my edit made no reference to conservative American politics in any way. Please note I called on the Mother Jones source to hopefully help prevent additional future vandalism. Finally, please note that my reversion of the vandalism was an improvement to the article, as witnessed by to date withstanding community scrutiny. Bottom line, only the most obsessed user could think these two edits worthy of anyone's time or attention.
I am proud of my article space focus, my good articles, all my edits, and in particular my superb edit summaries, and my exemplary participation and focus on content in article talk page discussions. Despite continued following and harassment, I am attempting to head advice and conform to an interaction ban to the extent possible; please understand, Springee believes all my contributions are disruptive and ban-worthy. I have at all times been civil and never been disruptive. All of my edits are good faith improvements to our encyclopedia and respectful of the topic ban; I respectfully request specific diffs of edits you feel are not, and an opportunity to discuss and self-revert.
Thank you again. Hugh ( talk) 19:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
I do not know which is copyright and which is free. How can I dishistinguish between them? Can I use the reference or not? PhysicsScientist ( talk) 02:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Laser brain,
You kindly closed this AE request Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive190#Monochrome_Monitor about 10 days ago.
The editor has come back to the same page with some continued unusual behaviour:
Please could you let me know how you think I should proceed here? The editor does not wish to discuss, and continues to be highly aggressive in their behaviour.
Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:26, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Explanation please
Hugh, as you're probably aware, Springee has left messages for various admins who were involved in your last AE report asking us to examine your recent edits at ExxonMobil. His message to me is here. I'm vexxed, frankly, and I have trouble understanding why you don't believe you are continuing to play around the edges of your TBAN. You received good advice in the last AE report that although you are not editing politics articles, the nature of your edits is political. I fully agree with this assessment. You also received explicit advice from Ricky81682 that inserting a source such as Mother Jones into articles is political in and of itself. Your TBAN aside, you jumped from one topic area under DS to another (climate change) and politically driven edits to those topics are troubling on their own. My inclination is to block you but I'd like to hear your side. --Laser brain (talk) 17:31, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
If you could, @Laser brain:, please take a look on the automobile safety talk page. Same thing going on, I think. Anmccaff (talk) 21:30, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
I appended this bit above to your message on @ HughD:'s talkpage, Hugh "responded", and yes, them scare quotes belong, by blanking both our messages. Could you take a look at this, please? Anmccaff ( talk) 21:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Should I have pushed the reviewers to switch from comment to support? Reger's centenary of death is next week. What's next? I have no experience with a failed nomination, - would like to see it as TFA on 16 July, centenary of the premiere, as Brian knows. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 23:12, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
@ Gerda Arendt: I don't have time to do a full review of this article, but just a quick glance at once section reveals a lot of issues. With due respect to the GOCE, it needs quite a bit more than a surface proofreading. There are basic problems with how the article is written, and I feel it will need significant rewriting before it is at FA standard. I started reading at "Sections". Here are some random pot-shots:
These are just from two paragraphs, so I suspect there is a lot of work to do in checking sources, making sure they are accurately represented, and then thoroughly editing the prose. -- Laser brain (talk) 11:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
( ←) I'd like to say that User:Laser_brain has made excellent comments above. Commenting about the nature of a work based on your reading of its score, for example, is obviously WP:OR. I should have looked closely (as he did) at these connections between the article and the sources, but alas I did not. Sorry. I did copy edit one section for you. Unless I am mistaken (which happens often), you frequently have problems with German "time-manner-place" versus English "place/manner, time". You also have problems with "coherence" (e.g., sentence order, keeping like topics together, connecting ideas to text above/below, etc.). But as Laser brain said, WP:OR is a deal-breaker, whereas as sentence order is much more amenable to repair... I have to go to sleep now... Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 14:18, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello. Are you sure about the track listing? I've read about plot, but nothing on WP:ALBUMS styles guides suggests track listing are free from needing sources. I know for films it's a matter of watching a film to state whether the plot is accurate or not, but it's not so simple for singles. For me, it sounds like not having to reference a home video section for a film because "oh just buy every copy!" Andrzejbanas ( talk) 14:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Our review processes (all of them) are pretty much dictated by the interests of any given reviewers. Sports and entertainment are big everywhere. I had an FLC fail last year pretty much for lack of interest. And I think I'm not the only one this happens to. However, I have Margaret Lea Houston at FAC and would really prefer it not fail for lack of interest, which looks to be a good possibility at the moment. Other than this post, can you offer suggestions on what I can do to keep this nomination from dying? — Maile ( talk) 23:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
The page I created for Impactguru was never intended to be a promotion. I have been following them for last six months and think that they should be on the list of crowdfunding websites. I have contributed a lot of times and they are the only ones in India who sends you a report about the funds usage. They might not be leading, which I should not have written and I take that back. Promotion was never the intention. Wikipedia is for knowledge and I think people visiting the page should know about upcoming sites as well. Especially offbeatr is on the list while its defunct. Please guide me how to edit content so that its not a promotion and please restore the page quickly. Let me know. Akansharathi ( talk) 05:51, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm curious. Squeamish Ossifrage Opposed baleen whale, but you promoted it. Was there a reason why? Tks. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 04:04, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
I wrestled on where to ask about this example, so I think I'll leave it off the RfC talk page for now and also invite The Wordsmith here. First, thanks for cracking down on the aspersions issue. Besides that and imposing a word limit, the other main issue needing admin supervision for the RfC is just the overall personalization towards editors and battleground behavior that pops up in this topic. After David Tornheim's post on Jimbo's page, that seems to have encouraged another editor involved in the dispute to go on to respond saying "KingofAces has made changes to this encyclopedia that should make you shudder. . ." [14]
As I've said before, I'm more interested in ignoring wrangling with various behavior issues at least until the RfC is done and leave it up to you two to decide what to do. However, using that as an example, do you two think there's anything more we can add to the RfC rules to actively discourage that kind of personalization? Otherwise, do you think we've done our due diligence with the setup where anyone engaging in this behavior can already be considered amply warned (obviously even though it should be common sense not to)? Many editors you two have encountered here have been previously warned for this behavior even though it has persisted for years in the background, so I just wanted to make sure you two were aware of that this is likely to pop up given the history. If either of you think there's something worth adding, I'd be willing to find some wording to strengthen and maybe discuss on the talk page detached from the above example. Asking this on the RfC page with that example might have just inflamed things more. Thanks. Kingofaces43 ( talk) 16:37, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
It looks like this example above did spiral out of control and now Petrarchan doubling down at the RfC page [15] and continuing the personal attacks after your warning. [16] [17] Sorry that you and The Wordsmith are having to deal with this much drama, but it's unfortunately only a taste of what us regulars have had to try to sort through. You two are doing a huge service though.
I've had to be really careful not to cross the line while still being able to respond to some behavior issues creeping in. I'm going to keep trying to ignore Petrachan at this point. Just for reference, the paper Petrarchan references directly commented on some individual studies and also commented on the broader literature. For some reason, Petrarchan keeps denying the later half (even though we had talk page consensus for it) to the point it goes beyond a content dispute calling me a liar, etc.
With all this in mind, I'm about at the point of asking for a one-way interaction ban (due to one-way antagonism) given their history at ArbCom. [18] [19] I know those can be tricky to enforce sometimes though. I don't edit in other topics they frequent, though I guess a topic-ban might create less ambiguity too. Just wanted to let you know I'm open to the interaction ban option if you're considering something along those lines, but I'd mostly just like to see this behavior stop one way or another. If you've got something in mind besides a ban, that would be great too. Kingofaces43 ( talk) 01:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, if editors are going to compliment me on what a fine job I did at revising Kingofaces' original edit, I will point out that what happened was simply the normal editing process and not a case of me needing to come in and fix something awful. There is much too much posturing that tries to make it sound like there is some kind of misrepresentation-of-sources case against Kingofaces. I could make a much stronger case about Petrarchan's representation of her source in Proposal 3 at the RfC draft page. Laser brain: your warning to Petrarchan was appropriate and the subsequent attacks upon you are inappropriate, as are her continuation of the conduct for which she was warned. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 17:55, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Roughly 30 seconds into this song (NSFW) your name gets mentioned. The Quixotic Potato ( talk) 10:45, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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I have learned a key lesson in grammar today. Thanks, my friend. SilverAlcantara ( talk) 09:20, 30 May 2016 (UTC) |
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For enduring a difficult situation and getting bruised but not broken, I award you this Barnstar. Rest easy, brother. The Wordsmith Talk to me 14:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC) |
You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request: Genetically modified organisms and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.
Thanks, -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
I just did this to put to rest, once and for all, the claims that there isn't the authority under DS. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
A clarification request in which you were involved has been archived at WT:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms#Clarification request: Genetically modified organisms (June 2016). For the Arbitration Committee, Mini apolis 14:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
If u see on administrative noticeboard for edit warring on this discussion u will see that whatever edits I had made were in good faith and not vandalism. However the IP whom I had helped create that article reported me because I had made some good faith edits which he considered vandalsim. He thinks I am WP:NOTHERE. There may have been incidents in the past that may have depicted me as here not to build an encyclopedia but then I learnt and mended my ways. Still I am being seen through the image of a guy not here to build encyclopedia. The way the IP reported me was retaliation because i had written the help desk telling them that the IP had taken credit of an article that was mainly written by me - anyway i closed that discussion. When i made good faith edits to that article -removing dead links and stuff he reported me. Users showing opinion there are still viewing me by that image of a nothere guy. What do I do? Can you please help me? I am too new and too small just a 13 year old. I have told you everything and I seek help. Many thanks and sincere regards -- Varun ☎ 14:21, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
I just want to make sure it's noted that I feel your decision regarding me on Loch Ness was way off base, and unfair. I don't feel you took everything into consideration. You certainly have the power enact what you did, and I will absolutely abide by it, but coming back from vacation and seeing the ruling was quite disheartening and disappointing. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 07:29, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
This nonsense is still going on? :bloodofox: ( talk) 18:31, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Below is a copy of "talk" between DrChrisWilliams and me for the same subject and contents you deleted. I guess that DrChrisWilliams gave up and passed the issue to you. I think that you and other editors should treat all the postings/edits/additions equally and fairly. If the data I entered should be deleted, other data in that table should be deleted too. If you do not want to delete other data, you should Allow our data to be presented.
(1) Hi Drchriswilliams, I do not understand why you have kept deleting the changes I made for uFundingPortal as you indicated in today's email. In this morning, I only inserted uFundingPortal, an equity crowdfunding platform, into the table that shows all equity/debt crowdfunding platforms ( /info/en/?search=Comparison_of_crowdfunding_services). But, now the newly inserted row for uFundingPortal is deleted. If listing a platform in the table is inappropriate, should you delete other rows in the table as well? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp (talk • contribs)
(2) Your edits appear promotional. Wikipedia is not a directory, see WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Drchriswilliams (talk) 14:59, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(3) In the table of "Money for business ventures" on the page of /info/en/?search=Comparison_of_crowdfunding_services, there are 17 rows that have similar data entered as I did for uFundingPortal. Should they be classified as "promotional" and be deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp (talk • contribs) 15:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(4) I have explained to you why I reverted your edit and have pointed you towards relevant Wikipedia policy. Since you ask, I have previously removed similar material from these pages - where it appears to be promotional - and other editors do likewise. Drchriswilliams (talk) 15:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(5) If you or other editors want to enforce the policy, you should make consistent for all data entries. Otherwise, it does not seem to be fair. In other words, when you delete my data entries, you should delete other data entries with the same problems. If not, that will certainly create confusion because the data I entered are in the same format as others. I would like to know when you will delete other 17+/- rows in that table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp (talk • contribs) 15:44, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(6) If further edits appear promotional, I will attempt to deal with them in an appropriate manner. Drchriswilliams (talk) 15:57, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(7) I do NOT think that it is fair! If you do not want to delete their data, you should NOT delete mine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp (talk • contribs) 16:20, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hi,
Your interpretation is much more clearer than Drchriswilliams. If the COI is a major issue for Wikipedia, you should take "Edit" button away from files and only provide "Suggestion" button. Although people may put in some promotional materials either explicitly or implicitly, the materials would be supplementary to the contents of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp ( talk • contribs) 02:16, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
My apologies - I still make mistakes when editing by clicking 'Save' in the Source editor instead of checking to see if I had completed the edits properly. Haven't made any misleading or poor edits and have consistently sought out vandalism and fixed it. No need to say my work is not help to others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xx041424 ( talk • contribs) 03:20, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
A clarification request in which you were involved has been archived at [[ Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms#Clarification request: Genetically modified organisms (1) (August 2016). For the Arbitration Committee, Mini apolis 13:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
A second clarification request in which you were involved has been archived at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms#Clarification request: Genetically modified organisms (2) (August 2016). For the Arbitration Committee, Mini apolis 14:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
I think you prematurely deleted my question which was not discussing behaviour, but requesting assistance with the definition of "edit warring". Is it OK if I re-post the question, or can you direct me to a better forum to find an answer? Either is OK by me. Santamoly ( talk) 20:55, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
I have filed two actions at WP:ARCA of which you are named party: action 1, action 2 -- David Tornheim ( talk) 04:03, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
You might want to consider removing their talkpage priviliges for the duration of the block. Their recent rant/diatribe is getting ridiculous now. Otherwise I will just nominate their entire talkpage at MFD for because of WP:POLEMIC. I have already had to remove in the past month blatant links to offsite personal attacks (bear in mind the 'we have a problem' title they keep harping on about is the name of a website that hosts attack material) and blatant polemical rants. They were completely off my radar until they decided to spam their rubbish across numerous talkpages which I had watchlisted. Only in death does duty end ( talk) 12:19, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Hello Laser brain, I've attempted to report a user that is adding satirical edits to Elgin, Illinois. However, because the person is editing from an IP address, I was unsure of how to do this. Could you provide advice on what steps I should take? Thank you in advance. Ramenfox ( talk) 04:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
The two latest ones I added (currently 18 & 19) have already been blocked, so theycan be closed immediately, cheers Muffled Pocketed 10:39, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
I restored a few reverted edits to my user page which I do not believe to be obnoxious. I left out the diacritics, though. Mage Resu ( talk) 19:07, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
So I got back from traveling to find out I was blocked from editing by Wikipedia LOL. Just wanted to leave this message thanking you for unblocking me, also wanted to give a chance to explain circumstances as I was AFK this whole time. I placed multiple requests for page protection and requests for Administrator intervention against vandalism at the page Young Thug discography that's how I ended up interacting with MegaMan###. He placed the protection template on the page which I had requested, when I went to thank him found out we both were blocked. Not necessarily sure of the details beyond that (I'm sure there's more than the bit I know about), just wanted to make myself available in case there were any questions since I'm back home with my computer. Weweremarshall ( talk) 18:17, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for helpful comments after the first FAC! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:46, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
What edits of mine don't you like? Are you going to block the sock? Sepsis II ( talk) 23:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Can you look at this editor history because this editor keep adding content with unreliable sources, and some editors (including myself) try to tell him or her about reliable sources, but ignored us by keep on adding content with unreliable sources after the edits been reverted. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 01:01, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
WhoSampled.com is a reliable source, as the website allows members (& visitors) to listen to both the track that uses the sample and the original song (on which the sample is based. For example, the drums (or drum machine) sound from 2Pac's "Ambitionz Az a Ridah" can be heard on the Kanye West song "I Wonder" from the album Graduation [1] GoldenGuy23 ( talk) 18:58, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
You've been very helpful in the past with editors who have added unsourced content to music-related articles. I suggested to an editor that an administrator assist with an issue, and the editor agreed to have another editor help out. Would you have a moment to look at User talk:TheMagnificentist#Category additions? Thank you. Magnolia677 ( talk) 00:36, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
You didn't have to be so rude when responding to my edits on Axl Rose's page. Sorry I forgot to reference accurate information. I was a bit surprised when you said you'd have me banned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razzle02121960 ( talk • contribs) 16:18, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Would you have a moment to look at the recent talk page messages at User talk:JayPe and User talk:JustDoItFettyg? Both these editors are hard working and have made huge contributions to Wikipedia's music articles, but get frustrated when asked to source their edits. I'm writing you because the editing behavior is similar to this editor. I edit a number of rap music articles, and it's quite the effort keeping these articles encyclopedic. Thanks a lot. Magnolia677 ( talk) 21:25, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
I'll be able to take a look within 1-2 days. If you feel the problem is particularly urgent, you can gather diffs and open a thread at WP:AN/I. However, I don't recommend this unless you have a strong stomach. -- Laser brain (talk) 12:01, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello Laser brain, I saw you listed at the Peer review volunteer list. I requested a peer review for Post (Björk album) at here: Wikipedia:Peer review/Post (Björk album)/archive1. If you are interested, I would be very grateful. Regards!-- Bleff ( talk) 13:34, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I have a quick question about the FAC process. I have placed the episode " Did You Hear What Happened to Charlotte King?" as a featured article candidate near the beginning of the month. Unfortunately, it has not attracted any attention after being open for a couple of weeks, and I have a feeling it will be archived soon. I was wondering if you have any advice or suggestions on how to attract more attention to a featured article candidate. I have voted on a few featured article candidates as I thought that would help. I understand that there is not much that can be done, as it is really up to a user's preference and interest on whether or not a FAC gets attention, but I would appreciate any advice (especially since I am still relatively new to Wikipedia). Thank you in advance. Aoba47 ( talk) 18:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Hai, I recently worked on the article Maheshinte Prathikaaram and have requested a PR for taking it to GAN. If you are interested, please spare some time for it. -- Charles Turing ( talk) 20:38, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello Laser brain. We recently participated in a discussion which motivated my filing of an Arbcom request. Although you are not a named party, your interest in the RFC mentioned juxtaposes to potential interest in the Arbcom request as well. I am therefore, inviting you to consider your own interest in the matter, and welcoming your involvement should you find it desirous. Best-- John Cline ( talk) 17:27, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
I don't agree with your pessimistic analysis of the infoboxes wars. Tell me one recent instance of what you describe as proxy battleground behaviour, please. To my observation, all it would take to end the battles was sticking to normal editing in good faith and without edit war. I have an example: a long-standing infobox was removed. If that had been considered a bold edit, reverted and discussed, things could have been easy. It wasn't because some would not accept that it was a rather bold edit. I said so on ARCA, but you could probably not read it all. - What is your opinion on the RfC on Holst which brought the need for clarification? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
ps: It pleased me to see (yesterday) a composer as TFA with an infobox, - improved to FA by the same editor as in my example. Obviously, compromise is possible. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
if I know the preferences of an author I respect them": I see no evidence of that at all. For the record, a very decent proportion of the articles I have worked on (including up to FAC) have included an IB where one is advantagreous.
It's a ghastly step backwards, but if you really wish to own the top right hand corners of every article, you'll only bully, bluster and lie your way into doing so, as you have done time and time again", that is indicative of a compromise that I supported? Come on Gerda - that's a dodgy claim to make, even for an IB discussion! - SchroCat ( talk) 16:17, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Regarding your "That way if someone behaves badly in this domain, other editors can file a report at AE and it can be dealt with." - I would file no report, ANI or AE. AE is a place to avoid, look for "AE " in my archive. Life is too short ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 05:40, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
I agree with your close on ANI but what will the arbs say that you call the restriction they gave me "silly"? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:45, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain: Not too long ago you left a comment on a page that I monitor, stating "If your first instinct is to revert the other editor instead of addressing the problem, then you are being disruptive."
. How very true! I love this aphorism and wish it could become a
precept of WP's editorial policies. You and I have occasionally crossed editorial paths in the past and I think if you know my work then you will know I try to be a very neutral editor interested in helping new users and just generally improving the encyclopedia. I do not always succeed, Wikipedians are only human after all. That being said I would like to ask you to "walk a mile in another's moccasins" and consider the following:
Proposition: While the above quote -- in this case offered as rule-of-thumb -- was offered in extremely good faith to the user it was addressed to, and with equally good cause, that same quotation might be just as appropriate to be offered to other editors who interact with the first.
IF this proposition is true then consider the frustration it would engender to be told as an editor "This is the rule you should follow." and yet meanwhile watch other editors behave in exactly the same "disruptive"
way as you are being told not to act. Certainly whatever rules and advice which apply to one editor should be equally applied to all. I ask you to consider this when you see the first editor's responses. Yes, he has much to learn, but I would hope we who have more experience can be sensitive enough to try and see his point of view and recognize any issues that might be valid points of exasperation which then contribute to his ongoing bad behaviors.
I absolutely would not change the rules for the first editor or in any way excuse his behavors, but if all I have said makes sense then you might want to determine if any other interacting editors may need to hear the same rule-of-thumb and offer them the same advice ... thus preventing needless escalations which help nobody in the end. Thanks for listening. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 14:04, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
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I noticed your edit summary. I did not edit through protection which should be obvious if you look at the time stamps. I am not sure what your edit and the summary added to a difficult situation and you might want to think more careully before making such an allegation another time. You did in fact end up doing what you falsely accused me of. Thanks a lot. -- John ( talk) 09:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Andy (and pinging Ian since I can't remember where the coord page is), I've just done a review of one of the two urgents listed and am going to try to get to the other tonight. If I have any leftover energy over the weekend, are there others you'd like reviewers to look at? Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 00:51, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your great work at FAC ... I've noticed. (I goofed yesterday on Mike Christie's nom ... I thought the page was showing no edits for a long time ... somehow I missed Ian's timestamp.) I was sick this year off and on with an undiagnosed gall bladder problem, but the gall bladder's out now and I'm tackling a wider range of articles at FAC, like I used to. Hope that helps. - Dank ( push to talk) 13:58, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
to somewhere a little more discrete.
1. Firstly, I was done. I had considered it closed, but of course when someone addresses me, I will have the urge to comment. 2. The implication that there is some bias towards giving admins/established users a break, was not directed at you, it was directed at Wikipedia. It doesn't matter which admin closed it and decided not to block John, the outcome was already predetermined the moment the complaint was filed. If you don't like the implication, then I'm sorry it offends you, but hey...in my eyes it was the wrong choice to make, would you prefer I said " good job, thanks!" ? 3. I have never to my knowledge encountered John, before the 2CV article, when he came whining to my user talk, and wouldn't accept that I didn't agree with him. I have no axe to grind with him. 4. Ignoring all the personal drama, you have a bad admin, who gets away with things, because he's an established admin, if you don't see the problem with that, or you are unwilling to address that problem, then you're part of the problem. Sorry but I want to have some faith in the admins here, but it's getting increasingly hard, when you see one admin breaking rules (or the spirit of rules) and other admins unwilling to take action over it.
Now, I'm done. Unless you have something to say that requires a response, I see no point in dwelling on this issue, and consider it in the past. Spacecowboy420 ( talk) 11:57, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
"Administrators are expected to lead by example and to behave in a respectful, civil manner in their interactions with others" WP:ADMINCOND
" Administrators and other experienced editors should especially strive to model appropriate standards of courtesy and civility to other editors and to one another." [20]
" In general, Wikipedia's administrators are held to a higher standard of behavior than other users" [21]
" Administrators are expected to lead by example and set a standard of engagement for others to follow." [22]
"Wikipedia administrators are trusted members of the community and are expected to follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Occasional lapses may be overlooked, but consistently poor judgement may result in desysopping. Administrators should in particular avoid actions that are likely to be disruptive. Administrators are not to use their tools in any dispute in which they are directly involved, such as by blocking others with whom they are in a dispute. See Wikipedia:Administrators, Wikipedia:Blocking policy, and Wikipedia:Protection policy. All editors deserve to be treated with the utmost of respect by administrators." [23]
I don't see the attitude of John, or the treatment of the complaint against him to be in line with any of the above. Spacecowboy420 ( talk) 12:44, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
I like trout... Re [24], my intent was to keep it a non-issue rather than to have any of the other persons involved in the RFC there decide that something should (not) be archived, after I was reverted... and knowing the personalities and general contention regarding the subject, that seemed like a really good idea. I would really rather not use ANI as a bat (seeing as I basically never have cause to review it much less watch it much less have the desire to do any of the above per WP:DRAMA), but that's what it's there for in cases like that, IMO. Maybe I'm wrong.... -- Izno ( talk) 14:50, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
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The Black P. Stones are known to be prominently African American, African Australian or just African by descent travelling to Australia, there has not been known reports by news reports or newspapers yet, but they are here and growing.
I think we should now go live with the voluntary mentor scheme for FAC. This means I will transfer the instructions for the scheme from my sandbox to WP mainspace. There should then be a prominent link in the FAC instructions, directing mew nominators to the mentor page. I also hope to have a permanent note on the FAC talkpage performing two functions: advising novice nominees about the scheme, and encouraging experienced editors to sign up as mentors.
Ten have signed up so far, which isn't many, but I haven't begun my general recruitment drive yet; the early signers are mainly those who participated in the original talkpage discussion. I hope to double the numbers after my trawl, and perhaps take in more when the scheme is established and there are results to show. Of course, it's not necessary to sign up on this list to be a mentor, and I suspect some who support the scheme may prefer not to sign up formally.
If you have no further queries or reservations, I'll create the WP page approximately 24 hours from now, and will then begin my recruitment drive. (Copied to Ian). Brianboulton ( talk) 19:03, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hi I saw you had deleted a page gigrev after I put a link in a page Direct to Fan I'm trying to understand how the Gigrev page is not notible enough and think I can help add enough information to make you happy its not advertising.
Would you be able to undelete it for me, so I can do this?
Regards
Kzoo 14:43, 30 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapfs ( talk • contribs)
Centralized message for Cassianto, SchroCat, and Tim riley: First off, I'm guilty of not doing enough to thank editors like you for your contributions. I suppose my way of saying thanks is to volunteer to be an FAC coordinator where I can facilitate content through the process with hopes of becoming Featured. But, I'll say that not a week goes by when I am not impressed and inspired by the quality of content you produce. To me, that's the entire reason to contribute to Wikipedia—inspiring a thousand moments of joy and discovery for readers when they encounter a product of your effort. The second part of my message is where I urge you to continue contributing and, in the words of Gold Five, "stay on target". Some of us are operating within the system to bring an end to these disruptions. I'm asking you to trust me when I say that it will work. Like other areas of sustained contention on Wikipedia, the underlying disagreement never really goes away but the disruptions can certainly go away. Once DS are authorized, editors learn quickly that if they can't operate in that domain without being disruptive, they are removed from that domain. Please stick around. -- Laser brain (talk) 12:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I apologise for brushing over your close at AN3. I didn't take in that you were recommending someone to create a BLP discussion on the noticeboard so just made the same edit at Jared Taylor as I still saw it as a BLPvio and hoped editors would wait until the talk page discussion was concluded before trying to re-add again. I didn't mean to create more work for you--judging by the fact that you were pinged into the subsequent discussion just to be insulted makes me think that being an admin is already a thankless job as is. Zaostao ( talk) 03:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain: You collapsed my section on WP:TAGTEAM at AE. I don't object, however I'd like to understand if you collapsed it because (a) it was irrelevant to the particular request or (b) it was irrelevant to the particular request and would be unconvincing in any future request.
I'm admittedly unfamiliar with TAGTEAM beyond what's specified in policy but this appeared to be arguably convincing evidence. It's also disconcerting that MVBW retired shortly after I posted my evidence then un-retired once it was collapsed. VM mentioned similar requests in the past which I'm unfamiliar with. If the same evidence has been presented and dismissed elsewhere I won't pursue it; if not, I'd ask you to direct me to the appropriate venue as I may. D.Creish ( talk) 20:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
That was me, sorry. I was probably trying to copy it. Bishonen | talk 16:09, 20 September 2016 (UTC).
There are known to be Black P. Stones in Australia and can too be known African American, African Australian or just African by descent. 120.151.230.91 ( talk) 02:16, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Can't find any news reports or anything this time, do I have to wait until a source of coverage is available? 120.151.230.91 ( talk) 02:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
I was fixing the page, how could you say it was unsourced. The other edit you could say so, but that last one was only just a fix. Get that I was adding Latin Kings (gang) and not just Latin Kings to some kind of redirect page. Do you know what you're doing or does someone else need to give some help out to how you think that quick fix was unsourced. You can't just claim that as unsourced, but too you can't say it doesn't exist. 120.151.230.91 ( talk) 03:45, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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I've been asking around, but I'd like your take. In your view, what, other than a ban, would be a good outcome here? As for my interest, I'm a professional proofreader and editor. I've focused on pages that concern my area of expertise. Darkfrog24 ( talk) 19:50, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Killer C suggested one edit a day for a specific period. That's the sort of thing that I'd find feasible. As for "figure it out on your own," that's where I got the "support but don't initiate" policy that I've been using for the past few years, but it doesn't seem to meet everyone's standards. Expecting me to perform or stop performing an action is one thing, but I can't read anyone's mind. I can only ask them to tell me what they think. Or look at it this way. I heard "Jump." Now I'm asking "How high?" Darkfrog24 ( talk) 18:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
I am contacting you because of your involvement in the topic ban that was placed against me. I would like to make the best of the next six months and am requesting your input on how best to do so.
What do you see as the appropriate way to oppose a longstanding Wikipedia MoS rule? My own take was to initiate no new threads or RfCs but participate in those started by others (which happens once or twice a year). This clearly was not something that you guys consider acceptable. What do you think I should do instead? Is it just that there was too much of it?
I notice that my offers to engage in a voluntary restriction were not accepted. What would you have seen as more suitable? Is it that I was asking you guys what you wanted me to do instead of making my own guesses?
What can I do over the next six months to give you guys confidence that I can be allowed to return to work?
I am understanding the topic ban to cover both MoS pages, articles concerning quotation marks, and their respective talk pages. Is this the case? Before I became involved, both Quotation marks in English and Full stop contained significant amounts of unsourced material and I am worried that that content will be returned. If I should happen to see such a case, am I allowed to notify someone else that the unsourced material is there?
I also feel that user SMcCandlish was not honest with you and should be treated as an outlier. Darkfrog24 ( talk) 14:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain, it has been awhile since I saw you. I hope you've doing well. I have an article nominated for FAC. It's Juan Manuel de Rosas. It's all good, except that it doesn't have a source review. Would you mind doing it? I'd be very grateful. Regards, -- Lecen ( talk) 19:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I saw the above was archived. I have to wait 2 weeks to renominate right?-- Will C 01:09, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I was like just going to ask people to do quid pro quo reviews of the Briarcliff Farms article. Can you waive the two week restriction for renominating as Ian Rose did to the Briarcliff Manor article for me? Seems I can never get enough attention to these reviews (the closing due to lack of attention and successful renomination has happened to me twice already), so someone suggested the quid pro quo earlier today, which I was going to do when I got back home... ɱ (talk · vbm · coi) 00:26, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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Your revert, - I assume that was a rather new editor, - at least I welcomed them only today. How about explaining on the user's talk page why you find the addition "unhelpful"? (I found it helpful, but will try to stay away.) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
I was not intentionally "monitoring" DF, I can assure you. I'm the one that filed the MfD for the relevant page, and so saw Smokey Joe's ping. I had no desire to get involved in yet another DF saga. Regardless, I shall unwatch DF's talk page, and shall not participate in any further enforcement of the TB, even if I'm directly referenced. I appreciate your swift action in this matter. RGloucester — ☎ 23:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
I've taken a few days to think about this: When I mentioned SMcCandlish's statement as a major contributing factor to the topic ban, you said I was off-base. Do you mean that you already knew he was misrepresenting the situation and took that into account when you looked at the diffs or that you do not think that his assertions were misrepresentations? Darkfrog24 ( talk) 16:48, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Hey,
I noticed you did quite some edits on The arts, wanted to let you know I opened a discussion for potential merger between Art and The arts, based primarily on the large overlap between the 2 articles. I can understand there's nuances between those 2 terms from a dictionary point of view, but not sure if that warrants 2 seperate articles. Would appreciate if you could give your input. >>>Discussion here<<< 92.71.13.2 ( talk) 16:58, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
I know you're probably all over it but any chance of getting the 'tribs nuked ? Mlpearc ( open channel) 18:04, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
"FAC has a specific policy that there are a limited set of people whose opinions matter regarding NFCC." I was not aware of any such policy at FAC? Have I been out of touch that long? Ealdgyth - Talk 17:06, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Laser brain, TripWire left a note at AE that he is leaving for a couple of days on a personal business and will not be editing during that time. Looks like he forgot to pare it down or maybe did not have enough time due to some emergency. Maybe you want to consider the longer response this one time.
Also, if you can be kind enough and consider my statement left at User talk:Spartaz#Statement by SheriffIsInTown and move it to that AE discussion since Spartaz asked me not to comment and only leave a message at his talk. If you cannot move, please consider my statement while making your decision. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:43, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hey LB, I think this FAC is ready to be promoted, but wanted your feedback. (Does the @FAC ping no longer work?) Also would I still need to wait two weeks after a successful nom to nominate another ready, peer reviewed article? czar 15:24, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Respectfully request at AE a reconsideration of your comments at AE. I have recently completed my statement, at your urging adding a thorough explanation of the reported edits. Sincerely, no topic ban violation or boundary testing was intended. Respectfully request good faith consideration of the context of a re-focus of my volunteer work in the area of climate change. Thank you. Hugh ( talk) 16:43, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain, you were involved with this recent ARE [6]. I think the editor in question has again violated the TBAN but I also think my recent frustration with his various edits and behavior may cloud my judgment. Thus I'm asking this as a sanity check and based on a suggestion here [7]. Please note after asking Dennis, I asked Bishonen who wasn't sure [8]. Two edits to the Exxon Mobil article were made by the editor in question almost immediately after the related ARE was closed [9], [10]. These edits seem very similar to and include the same article as edits identified by another admin as violations [11], [12]. The ARE topic block was expanded: "I am enacting Dennis Brown's topic ban extension, and explicitly expanding it to include addressing conservative politics on non-conservative-politics articles." As a sanity check would you read the new edits as likely violations? Thanks Springee ( talk) 15:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain, having discussed the issue with the editor below, do you feel this is something that should be reviewed further? The editor is still active on the ExxonMobil climate change talk page and has been editing in a way that is not conducive to consensus building. [13] Springee ( talk) 00:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for notifying me of the ongoing campaigning; I was not pinged into the notice. Sorry you have been dragged into this. I'm vexxed, too, and have been for going on a year now. I was sure by now every Wikipedian was aware of Springee's long history with their project of sanctioning HughD. For background, forgive me if you are already familiar, please see for example:
I take to heart all advice offered by colleagues; if only some of my colleagues took a similar mature attitude.
You need to avoid this in the future, I can't see how you would have found this unless you were monitoring Hugh's edits. Therefore stop doing that and avoid commenting on Hugh's edits.
Springee has been reminded of this multiple times sadly to no avail.
Respectfully, a reminder: I am banned from recent conservative American politics; I am not banned from climate change or politics or topics that some may consider political, which is of course all topics. Last winter our arbitration committee cleaned up and consolidated areas of dispute; they may be interested in a case which might provide a basis for further consolidation by subsuming climate change under American politics, or perhaps clarifying that conservative politics is subsumed under politics.
Springee brings two specific edits at ExxonMobil to your attention claiming they demand administrative action. First, please understand the important context of Springee contacting you: their relentless project to sanction HughD. Next, please understand the context of this particular article, that Springee followed me, to ExxonMobil, then followed me to the POV split ExxonMobil climate change controversy, then harassed me with such vigor that ExxonMobil climate change controversy became his top edited article! Next, recognize that my area of interest, climate, the term "denial" is often vandalized, and the intention of my edits was to revert one such vandalism. Please note my edit made no reference to conservative American politics in any way. Please note I called on the Mother Jones source to hopefully help prevent additional future vandalism. Finally, please note that my reversion of the vandalism was an improvement to the article, as witnessed by to date withstanding community scrutiny. Bottom line, only the most obsessed user could think these two edits worthy of anyone's time or attention.
I am proud of my article space focus, my good articles, all my edits, and in particular my superb edit summaries, and my exemplary participation and focus on content in article talk page discussions. Despite continued following and harassment, I am attempting to head advice and conform to an interaction ban to the extent possible; please understand, Springee believes all my contributions are disruptive and ban-worthy. I have at all times been civil and never been disruptive. All of my edits are good faith improvements to our encyclopedia and respectful of the topic ban; I respectfully request specific diffs of edits you feel are not, and an opportunity to discuss and self-revert.
Thank you again. Hugh ( talk) 19:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
I do not know which is copyright and which is free. How can I dishistinguish between them? Can I use the reference or not? PhysicsScientist ( talk) 02:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Laser brain,
You kindly closed this AE request Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive190#Monochrome_Monitor about 10 days ago.
The editor has come back to the same page with some continued unusual behaviour:
Please could you let me know how you think I should proceed here? The editor does not wish to discuss, and continues to be highly aggressive in their behaviour.
Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:26, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Explanation please
Hugh, as you're probably aware, Springee has left messages for various admins who were involved in your last AE report asking us to examine your recent edits at ExxonMobil. His message to me is here. I'm vexxed, frankly, and I have trouble understanding why you don't believe you are continuing to play around the edges of your TBAN. You received good advice in the last AE report that although you are not editing politics articles, the nature of your edits is political. I fully agree with this assessment. You also received explicit advice from Ricky81682 that inserting a source such as Mother Jones into articles is political in and of itself. Your TBAN aside, you jumped from one topic area under DS to another (climate change) and politically driven edits to those topics are troubling on their own. My inclination is to block you but I'd like to hear your side. --Laser brain (talk) 17:31, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
If you could, @Laser brain:, please take a look on the automobile safety talk page. Same thing going on, I think. Anmccaff (talk) 21:30, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
I appended this bit above to your message on @ HughD:'s talkpage, Hugh "responded", and yes, them scare quotes belong, by blanking both our messages. Could you take a look at this, please? Anmccaff ( talk) 21:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Should I have pushed the reviewers to switch from comment to support? Reger's centenary of death is next week. What's next? I have no experience with a failed nomination, - would like to see it as TFA on 16 July, centenary of the premiere, as Brian knows. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 23:12, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
@ Gerda Arendt: I don't have time to do a full review of this article, but just a quick glance at once section reveals a lot of issues. With due respect to the GOCE, it needs quite a bit more than a surface proofreading. There are basic problems with how the article is written, and I feel it will need significant rewriting before it is at FA standard. I started reading at "Sections". Here are some random pot-shots:
These are just from two paragraphs, so I suspect there is a lot of work to do in checking sources, making sure they are accurately represented, and then thoroughly editing the prose. -- Laser brain (talk) 11:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
( ←) I'd like to say that User:Laser_brain has made excellent comments above. Commenting about the nature of a work based on your reading of its score, for example, is obviously WP:OR. I should have looked closely (as he did) at these connections between the article and the sources, but alas I did not. Sorry. I did copy edit one section for you. Unless I am mistaken (which happens often), you frequently have problems with German "time-manner-place" versus English "place/manner, time". You also have problems with "coherence" (e.g., sentence order, keeping like topics together, connecting ideas to text above/below, etc.). But as Laser brain said, WP:OR is a deal-breaker, whereas as sentence order is much more amenable to repair... I have to go to sleep now... Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 14:18, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello. Are you sure about the track listing? I've read about plot, but nothing on WP:ALBUMS styles guides suggests track listing are free from needing sources. I know for films it's a matter of watching a film to state whether the plot is accurate or not, but it's not so simple for singles. For me, it sounds like not having to reference a home video section for a film because "oh just buy every copy!" Andrzejbanas ( talk) 14:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Our review processes (all of them) are pretty much dictated by the interests of any given reviewers. Sports and entertainment are big everywhere. I had an FLC fail last year pretty much for lack of interest. And I think I'm not the only one this happens to. However, I have Margaret Lea Houston at FAC and would really prefer it not fail for lack of interest, which looks to be a good possibility at the moment. Other than this post, can you offer suggestions on what I can do to keep this nomination from dying? — Maile ( talk) 23:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
The page I created for Impactguru was never intended to be a promotion. I have been following them for last six months and think that they should be on the list of crowdfunding websites. I have contributed a lot of times and they are the only ones in India who sends you a report about the funds usage. They might not be leading, which I should not have written and I take that back. Promotion was never the intention. Wikipedia is for knowledge and I think people visiting the page should know about upcoming sites as well. Especially offbeatr is on the list while its defunct. Please guide me how to edit content so that its not a promotion and please restore the page quickly. Let me know. Akansharathi ( talk) 05:51, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm curious. Squeamish Ossifrage Opposed baleen whale, but you promoted it. Was there a reason why? Tks. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 04:04, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
I wrestled on where to ask about this example, so I think I'll leave it off the RfC talk page for now and also invite The Wordsmith here. First, thanks for cracking down on the aspersions issue. Besides that and imposing a word limit, the other main issue needing admin supervision for the RfC is just the overall personalization towards editors and battleground behavior that pops up in this topic. After David Tornheim's post on Jimbo's page, that seems to have encouraged another editor involved in the dispute to go on to respond saying "KingofAces has made changes to this encyclopedia that should make you shudder. . ." [14]
As I've said before, I'm more interested in ignoring wrangling with various behavior issues at least until the RfC is done and leave it up to you two to decide what to do. However, using that as an example, do you two think there's anything more we can add to the RfC rules to actively discourage that kind of personalization? Otherwise, do you think we've done our due diligence with the setup where anyone engaging in this behavior can already be considered amply warned (obviously even though it should be common sense not to)? Many editors you two have encountered here have been previously warned for this behavior even though it has persisted for years in the background, so I just wanted to make sure you two were aware of that this is likely to pop up given the history. If either of you think there's something worth adding, I'd be willing to find some wording to strengthen and maybe discuss on the talk page detached from the above example. Asking this on the RfC page with that example might have just inflamed things more. Thanks. Kingofaces43 ( talk) 16:37, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
It looks like this example above did spiral out of control and now Petrarchan doubling down at the RfC page [15] and continuing the personal attacks after your warning. [16] [17] Sorry that you and The Wordsmith are having to deal with this much drama, but it's unfortunately only a taste of what us regulars have had to try to sort through. You two are doing a huge service though.
I've had to be really careful not to cross the line while still being able to respond to some behavior issues creeping in. I'm going to keep trying to ignore Petrachan at this point. Just for reference, the paper Petrarchan references directly commented on some individual studies and also commented on the broader literature. For some reason, Petrarchan keeps denying the later half (even though we had talk page consensus for it) to the point it goes beyond a content dispute calling me a liar, etc.
With all this in mind, I'm about at the point of asking for a one-way interaction ban (due to one-way antagonism) given their history at ArbCom. [18] [19] I know those can be tricky to enforce sometimes though. I don't edit in other topics they frequent, though I guess a topic-ban might create less ambiguity too. Just wanted to let you know I'm open to the interaction ban option if you're considering something along those lines, but I'd mostly just like to see this behavior stop one way or another. If you've got something in mind besides a ban, that would be great too. Kingofaces43 ( talk) 01:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, if editors are going to compliment me on what a fine job I did at revising Kingofaces' original edit, I will point out that what happened was simply the normal editing process and not a case of me needing to come in and fix something awful. There is much too much posturing that tries to make it sound like there is some kind of misrepresentation-of-sources case against Kingofaces. I could make a much stronger case about Petrarchan's representation of her source in Proposal 3 at the RfC draft page. Laser brain: your warning to Petrarchan was appropriate and the subsequent attacks upon you are inappropriate, as are her continuation of the conduct for which she was warned. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 17:55, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Roughly 30 seconds into this song (NSFW) your name gets mentioned. The Quixotic Potato ( talk) 10:45, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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I have learned a key lesson in grammar today. Thanks, my friend. SilverAlcantara ( talk) 09:20, 30 May 2016 (UTC) |
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For enduring a difficult situation and getting bruised but not broken, I award you this Barnstar. Rest easy, brother. The Wordsmith Talk to me 14:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC) |
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Thanks, -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
I just did this to put to rest, once and for all, the claims that there isn't the authority under DS. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
A clarification request in which you were involved has been archived at WT:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms#Clarification request: Genetically modified organisms (June 2016). For the Arbitration Committee, Mini apolis 14:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
If u see on administrative noticeboard for edit warring on this discussion u will see that whatever edits I had made were in good faith and not vandalism. However the IP whom I had helped create that article reported me because I had made some good faith edits which he considered vandalsim. He thinks I am WP:NOTHERE. There may have been incidents in the past that may have depicted me as here not to build an encyclopedia but then I learnt and mended my ways. Still I am being seen through the image of a guy not here to build encyclopedia. The way the IP reported me was retaliation because i had written the help desk telling them that the IP had taken credit of an article that was mainly written by me - anyway i closed that discussion. When i made good faith edits to that article -removing dead links and stuff he reported me. Users showing opinion there are still viewing me by that image of a nothere guy. What do I do? Can you please help me? I am too new and too small just a 13 year old. I have told you everything and I seek help. Many thanks and sincere regards -- Varun ☎ 14:21, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
I just want to make sure it's noted that I feel your decision regarding me on Loch Ness was way off base, and unfair. I don't feel you took everything into consideration. You certainly have the power enact what you did, and I will absolutely abide by it, but coming back from vacation and seeing the ruling was quite disheartening and disappointing. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 07:29, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
This nonsense is still going on? :bloodofox: ( talk) 18:31, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Below is a copy of "talk" between DrChrisWilliams and me for the same subject and contents you deleted. I guess that DrChrisWilliams gave up and passed the issue to you. I think that you and other editors should treat all the postings/edits/additions equally and fairly. If the data I entered should be deleted, other data in that table should be deleted too. If you do not want to delete other data, you should Allow our data to be presented.
(1) Hi Drchriswilliams, I do not understand why you have kept deleting the changes I made for uFundingPortal as you indicated in today's email. In this morning, I only inserted uFundingPortal, an equity crowdfunding platform, into the table that shows all equity/debt crowdfunding platforms ( /info/en/?search=Comparison_of_crowdfunding_services). But, now the newly inserted row for uFundingPortal is deleted. If listing a platform in the table is inappropriate, should you delete other rows in the table as well? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp (talk • contribs)
(2) Your edits appear promotional. Wikipedia is not a directory, see WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Drchriswilliams (talk) 14:59, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(3) In the table of "Money for business ventures" on the page of /info/en/?search=Comparison_of_crowdfunding_services, there are 17 rows that have similar data entered as I did for uFundingPortal. Should they be classified as "promotional" and be deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp (talk • contribs) 15:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(4) I have explained to you why I reverted your edit and have pointed you towards relevant Wikipedia policy. Since you ask, I have previously removed similar material from these pages - where it appears to be promotional - and other editors do likewise. Drchriswilliams (talk) 15:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(5) If you or other editors want to enforce the policy, you should make consistent for all data entries. Otherwise, it does not seem to be fair. In other words, when you delete my data entries, you should delete other data entries with the same problems. If not, that will certainly create confusion because the data I entered are in the same format as others. I would like to know when you will delete other 17+/- rows in that table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp (talk • contribs) 15:44, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(6) If further edits appear promotional, I will attempt to deal with them in an appropriate manner. Drchriswilliams (talk) 15:57, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
(7) I do NOT think that it is fair! If you do not want to delete their data, you should NOT delete mine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp (talk • contribs) 16:20, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hi,
Your interpretation is much more clearer than Drchriswilliams. If the COI is a major issue for Wikipedia, you should take "Edit" button away from files and only provide "Suggestion" button. Although people may put in some promotional materials either explicitly or implicitly, the materials would be supplementary to the contents of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom ufp ( talk • contribs) 02:16, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
My apologies - I still make mistakes when editing by clicking 'Save' in the Source editor instead of checking to see if I had completed the edits properly. Haven't made any misleading or poor edits and have consistently sought out vandalism and fixed it. No need to say my work is not help to others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xx041424 ( talk • contribs) 03:20, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
A clarification request in which you were involved has been archived at [[ Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms#Clarification request: Genetically modified organisms (1) (August 2016). For the Arbitration Committee, Mini apolis 13:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
A second clarification request in which you were involved has been archived at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms#Clarification request: Genetically modified organisms (2) (August 2016). For the Arbitration Committee, Mini apolis 14:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
I think you prematurely deleted my question which was not discussing behaviour, but requesting assistance with the definition of "edit warring". Is it OK if I re-post the question, or can you direct me to a better forum to find an answer? Either is OK by me. Santamoly ( talk) 20:55, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
I have filed two actions at WP:ARCA of which you are named party: action 1, action 2 -- David Tornheim ( talk) 04:03, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
You might want to consider removing their talkpage priviliges for the duration of the block. Their recent rant/diatribe is getting ridiculous now. Otherwise I will just nominate their entire talkpage at MFD for because of WP:POLEMIC. I have already had to remove in the past month blatant links to offsite personal attacks (bear in mind the 'we have a problem' title they keep harping on about is the name of a website that hosts attack material) and blatant polemical rants. They were completely off my radar until they decided to spam their rubbish across numerous talkpages which I had watchlisted. Only in death does duty end ( talk) 12:19, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Hello Laser brain, I've attempted to report a user that is adding satirical edits to Elgin, Illinois. However, because the person is editing from an IP address, I was unsure of how to do this. Could you provide advice on what steps I should take? Thank you in advance. Ramenfox ( talk) 04:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
The two latest ones I added (currently 18 & 19) have already been blocked, so theycan be closed immediately, cheers Muffled Pocketed 10:39, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
I restored a few reverted edits to my user page which I do not believe to be obnoxious. I left out the diacritics, though. Mage Resu ( talk) 19:07, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
So I got back from traveling to find out I was blocked from editing by Wikipedia LOL. Just wanted to leave this message thanking you for unblocking me, also wanted to give a chance to explain circumstances as I was AFK this whole time. I placed multiple requests for page protection and requests for Administrator intervention against vandalism at the page Young Thug discography that's how I ended up interacting with MegaMan###. He placed the protection template on the page which I had requested, when I went to thank him found out we both were blocked. Not necessarily sure of the details beyond that (I'm sure there's more than the bit I know about), just wanted to make myself available in case there were any questions since I'm back home with my computer. Weweremarshall ( talk) 18:17, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for helpful comments after the first FAC! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:46, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
What edits of mine don't you like? Are you going to block the sock? Sepsis II ( talk) 23:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Can you look at this editor history because this editor keep adding content with unreliable sources, and some editors (including myself) try to tell him or her about reliable sources, but ignored us by keep on adding content with unreliable sources after the edits been reverted. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 01:01, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
WhoSampled.com is a reliable source, as the website allows members (& visitors) to listen to both the track that uses the sample and the original song (on which the sample is based. For example, the drums (or drum machine) sound from 2Pac's "Ambitionz Az a Ridah" can be heard on the Kanye West song "I Wonder" from the album Graduation [1] GoldenGuy23 ( talk) 18:58, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
You've been very helpful in the past with editors who have added unsourced content to music-related articles. I suggested to an editor that an administrator assist with an issue, and the editor agreed to have another editor help out. Would you have a moment to look at User talk:TheMagnificentist#Category additions? Thank you. Magnolia677 ( talk) 00:36, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
You didn't have to be so rude when responding to my edits on Axl Rose's page. Sorry I forgot to reference accurate information. I was a bit surprised when you said you'd have me banned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razzle02121960 ( talk • contribs) 16:18, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Would you have a moment to look at the recent talk page messages at User talk:JayPe and User talk:JustDoItFettyg? Both these editors are hard working and have made huge contributions to Wikipedia's music articles, but get frustrated when asked to source their edits. I'm writing you because the editing behavior is similar to this editor. I edit a number of rap music articles, and it's quite the effort keeping these articles encyclopedic. Thanks a lot. Magnolia677 ( talk) 21:25, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
I'll be able to take a look within 1-2 days. If you feel the problem is particularly urgent, you can gather diffs and open a thread at WP:AN/I. However, I don't recommend this unless you have a strong stomach. -- Laser brain (talk) 12:01, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello Laser brain, I saw you listed at the Peer review volunteer list. I requested a peer review for Post (Björk album) at here: Wikipedia:Peer review/Post (Björk album)/archive1. If you are interested, I would be very grateful. Regards!-- Bleff ( talk) 13:34, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I have a quick question about the FAC process. I have placed the episode " Did You Hear What Happened to Charlotte King?" as a featured article candidate near the beginning of the month. Unfortunately, it has not attracted any attention after being open for a couple of weeks, and I have a feeling it will be archived soon. I was wondering if you have any advice or suggestions on how to attract more attention to a featured article candidate. I have voted on a few featured article candidates as I thought that would help. I understand that there is not much that can be done, as it is really up to a user's preference and interest on whether or not a FAC gets attention, but I would appreciate any advice (especially since I am still relatively new to Wikipedia). Thank you in advance. Aoba47 ( talk) 18:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Hai, I recently worked on the article Maheshinte Prathikaaram and have requested a PR for taking it to GAN. If you are interested, please spare some time for it. -- Charles Turing ( talk) 20:38, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello Laser brain. We recently participated in a discussion which motivated my filing of an Arbcom request. Although you are not a named party, your interest in the RFC mentioned juxtaposes to potential interest in the Arbcom request as well. I am therefore, inviting you to consider your own interest in the matter, and welcoming your involvement should you find it desirous. Best-- John Cline ( talk) 17:27, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
I don't agree with your pessimistic analysis of the infoboxes wars. Tell me one recent instance of what you describe as proxy battleground behaviour, please. To my observation, all it would take to end the battles was sticking to normal editing in good faith and without edit war. I have an example: a long-standing infobox was removed. If that had been considered a bold edit, reverted and discussed, things could have been easy. It wasn't because some would not accept that it was a rather bold edit. I said so on ARCA, but you could probably not read it all. - What is your opinion on the RfC on Holst which brought the need for clarification? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
ps: It pleased me to see (yesterday) a composer as TFA with an infobox, - improved to FA by the same editor as in my example. Obviously, compromise is possible. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
if I know the preferences of an author I respect them": I see no evidence of that at all. For the record, a very decent proportion of the articles I have worked on (including up to FAC) have included an IB where one is advantagreous.
It's a ghastly step backwards, but if you really wish to own the top right hand corners of every article, you'll only bully, bluster and lie your way into doing so, as you have done time and time again", that is indicative of a compromise that I supported? Come on Gerda - that's a dodgy claim to make, even for an IB discussion! - SchroCat ( talk) 16:17, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Regarding your "That way if someone behaves badly in this domain, other editors can file a report at AE and it can be dealt with." - I would file no report, ANI or AE. AE is a place to avoid, look for "AE " in my archive. Life is too short ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 05:40, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
I agree with your close on ANI but what will the arbs say that you call the restriction they gave me "silly"? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:45, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain: Not too long ago you left a comment on a page that I monitor, stating "If your first instinct is to revert the other editor instead of addressing the problem, then you are being disruptive."
. How very true! I love this aphorism and wish it could become a
precept of WP's editorial policies. You and I have occasionally crossed editorial paths in the past and I think if you know my work then you will know I try to be a very neutral editor interested in helping new users and just generally improving the encyclopedia. I do not always succeed, Wikipedians are only human after all. That being said I would like to ask you to "walk a mile in another's moccasins" and consider the following:
Proposition: While the above quote -- in this case offered as rule-of-thumb -- was offered in extremely good faith to the user it was addressed to, and with equally good cause, that same quotation might be just as appropriate to be offered to other editors who interact with the first.
IF this proposition is true then consider the frustration it would engender to be told as an editor "This is the rule you should follow." and yet meanwhile watch other editors behave in exactly the same "disruptive"
way as you are being told not to act. Certainly whatever rules and advice which apply to one editor should be equally applied to all. I ask you to consider this when you see the first editor's responses. Yes, he has much to learn, but I would hope we who have more experience can be sensitive enough to try and see his point of view and recognize any issues that might be valid points of exasperation which then contribute to his ongoing bad behaviors.
I absolutely would not change the rules for the first editor or in any way excuse his behavors, but if all I have said makes sense then you might want to determine if any other interacting editors may need to hear the same rule-of-thumb and offer them the same advice ... thus preventing needless escalations which help nobody in the end. Thanks for listening. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 14:04, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
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I noticed your edit summary. I did not edit through protection which should be obvious if you look at the time stamps. I am not sure what your edit and the summary added to a difficult situation and you might want to think more careully before making such an allegation another time. You did in fact end up doing what you falsely accused me of. Thanks a lot. -- John ( talk) 09:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Andy (and pinging Ian since I can't remember where the coord page is), I've just done a review of one of the two urgents listed and am going to try to get to the other tonight. If I have any leftover energy over the weekend, are there others you'd like reviewers to look at? Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 00:51, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your great work at FAC ... I've noticed. (I goofed yesterday on Mike Christie's nom ... I thought the page was showing no edits for a long time ... somehow I missed Ian's timestamp.) I was sick this year off and on with an undiagnosed gall bladder problem, but the gall bladder's out now and I'm tackling a wider range of articles at FAC, like I used to. Hope that helps. - Dank ( push to talk) 13:58, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
to somewhere a little more discrete.
1. Firstly, I was done. I had considered it closed, but of course when someone addresses me, I will have the urge to comment. 2. The implication that there is some bias towards giving admins/established users a break, was not directed at you, it was directed at Wikipedia. It doesn't matter which admin closed it and decided not to block John, the outcome was already predetermined the moment the complaint was filed. If you don't like the implication, then I'm sorry it offends you, but hey...in my eyes it was the wrong choice to make, would you prefer I said " good job, thanks!" ? 3. I have never to my knowledge encountered John, before the 2CV article, when he came whining to my user talk, and wouldn't accept that I didn't agree with him. I have no axe to grind with him. 4. Ignoring all the personal drama, you have a bad admin, who gets away with things, because he's an established admin, if you don't see the problem with that, or you are unwilling to address that problem, then you're part of the problem. Sorry but I want to have some faith in the admins here, but it's getting increasingly hard, when you see one admin breaking rules (or the spirit of rules) and other admins unwilling to take action over it.
Now, I'm done. Unless you have something to say that requires a response, I see no point in dwelling on this issue, and consider it in the past. Spacecowboy420 ( talk) 11:57, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
"Administrators are expected to lead by example and to behave in a respectful, civil manner in their interactions with others" WP:ADMINCOND
" Administrators and other experienced editors should especially strive to model appropriate standards of courtesy and civility to other editors and to one another." [20]
" In general, Wikipedia's administrators are held to a higher standard of behavior than other users" [21]
" Administrators are expected to lead by example and set a standard of engagement for others to follow." [22]
"Wikipedia administrators are trusted members of the community and are expected to follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Occasional lapses may be overlooked, but consistently poor judgement may result in desysopping. Administrators should in particular avoid actions that are likely to be disruptive. Administrators are not to use their tools in any dispute in which they are directly involved, such as by blocking others with whom they are in a dispute. See Wikipedia:Administrators, Wikipedia:Blocking policy, and Wikipedia:Protection policy. All editors deserve to be treated with the utmost of respect by administrators." [23]
I don't see the attitude of John, or the treatment of the complaint against him to be in line with any of the above. Spacecowboy420 ( talk) 12:44, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
I like trout... Re [24], my intent was to keep it a non-issue rather than to have any of the other persons involved in the RFC there decide that something should (not) be archived, after I was reverted... and knowing the personalities and general contention regarding the subject, that seemed like a really good idea. I would really rather not use ANI as a bat (seeing as I basically never have cause to review it much less watch it much less have the desire to do any of the above per WP:DRAMA), but that's what it's there for in cases like that, IMO. Maybe I'm wrong.... -- Izno ( talk) 14:50, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
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The Black P. Stones are known to be prominently African American, African Australian or just African by descent travelling to Australia, there has not been known reports by news reports or newspapers yet, but they are here and growing.
I think we should now go live with the voluntary mentor scheme for FAC. This means I will transfer the instructions for the scheme from my sandbox to WP mainspace. There should then be a prominent link in the FAC instructions, directing mew nominators to the mentor page. I also hope to have a permanent note on the FAC talkpage performing two functions: advising novice nominees about the scheme, and encouraging experienced editors to sign up as mentors.
Ten have signed up so far, which isn't many, but I haven't begun my general recruitment drive yet; the early signers are mainly those who participated in the original talkpage discussion. I hope to double the numbers after my trawl, and perhaps take in more when the scheme is established and there are results to show. Of course, it's not necessary to sign up on this list to be a mentor, and I suspect some who support the scheme may prefer not to sign up formally.
If you have no further queries or reservations, I'll create the WP page approximately 24 hours from now, and will then begin my recruitment drive. (Copied to Ian). Brianboulton ( talk) 19:03, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks, -- Dane2007 talk 06:42, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi I saw you had deleted a page gigrev after I put a link in a page Direct to Fan I'm trying to understand how the Gigrev page is not notible enough and think I can help add enough information to make you happy its not advertising.
Would you be able to undelete it for me, so I can do this?
Regards
Kzoo 14:43, 30 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapfs ( talk • contribs)
Centralized message for Cassianto, SchroCat, and Tim riley: First off, I'm guilty of not doing enough to thank editors like you for your contributions. I suppose my way of saying thanks is to volunteer to be an FAC coordinator where I can facilitate content through the process with hopes of becoming Featured. But, I'll say that not a week goes by when I am not impressed and inspired by the quality of content you produce. To me, that's the entire reason to contribute to Wikipedia—inspiring a thousand moments of joy and discovery for readers when they encounter a product of your effort. The second part of my message is where I urge you to continue contributing and, in the words of Gold Five, "stay on target". Some of us are operating within the system to bring an end to these disruptions. I'm asking you to trust me when I say that it will work. Like other areas of sustained contention on Wikipedia, the underlying disagreement never really goes away but the disruptions can certainly go away. Once DS are authorized, editors learn quickly that if they can't operate in that domain without being disruptive, they are removed from that domain. Please stick around. -- Laser brain (talk) 12:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I apologise for brushing over your close at AN3. I didn't take in that you were recommending someone to create a BLP discussion on the noticeboard so just made the same edit at Jared Taylor as I still saw it as a BLPvio and hoped editors would wait until the talk page discussion was concluded before trying to re-add again. I didn't mean to create more work for you--judging by the fact that you were pinged into the subsequent discussion just to be insulted makes me think that being an admin is already a thankless job as is. Zaostao ( talk) 03:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Laser brain: You collapsed my section on WP:TAGTEAM at AE. I don't object, however I'd like to understand if you collapsed it because (a) it was irrelevant to the particular request or (b) it was irrelevant to the particular request and would be unconvincing in any future request.
I'm admittedly unfamiliar with TAGTEAM beyond what's specified in policy but this appeared to be arguably convincing evidence. It's also disconcerting that MVBW retired shortly after I posted my evidence then un-retired once it was collapsed. VM mentioned similar requests in the past which I'm unfamiliar with. If the same evidence has been presented and dismissed elsewhere I won't pursue it; if not, I'd ask you to direct me to the appropriate venue as I may. D.Creish ( talk) 20:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
That was me, sorry. I was probably trying to copy it. Bishonen | talk 16:09, 20 September 2016 (UTC).
There are known to be Black P. Stones in Australia and can too be known African American, African Australian or just African by descent. 120.151.230.91 ( talk) 02:16, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Can't find any news reports or anything this time, do I have to wait until a source of coverage is available? 120.151.230.91 ( talk) 02:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
I was fixing the page, how could you say it was unsourced. The other edit you could say so, but that last one was only just a fix. Get that I was adding Latin Kings (gang) and not just Latin Kings to some kind of redirect page. Do you know what you're doing or does someone else need to give some help out to how you think that quick fix was unsourced. You can't just claim that as unsourced, but too you can't say it doesn't exist. 120.151.230.91 ( talk) 03:45, 7 February 2017 (UTC)