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obscure etymologies: Nusakan, Mesarthim, Phact, Alifa al Farkadain, Subra, Zeta Puppis (suhail ħađ̧ar or xađ̧ar), Kakkab, Alya (yet to look up), Spica (alt names), Skat/ Pi Aquarii, Albulaan (spelling), Theta Columbae (etym.), Phact (yet to look up),
Regarding the recent discussion at
Talk:International Phonetic Alphabet... if there really is a desire to offer multiple pronunciation guides, what about not listing them inline but putting them in a box off to the right, like the romanization boxes used for some East Asian articles (for example, I think a lot of articles on Korean things have boxes with multiple romanizations). That might be less cluttersome than trying to put them inline, and easier to code (I don't yet know of any way to toggle pronunciation guides inline without using javascript, but in a right-floating box they could just be in a list, and could be hidden in {{
show}}
).
rʨanaɢ
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22:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
In reply to your comment, I cannot provide an honest answer to you because I simply do not know. I do not even remember editing such an article but anyhow, the matter is redundant now seeing as you have already taken your time to edit the article.
I will change my password in case such a problem has persisted without my knowledge (I haven't logged in for a while). Thanks for bringing it up. ♦ BOHEMIAN ARCADE ♦ • Message me • My contributions 17:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey - join us at Talk:Hiragana#Colored_background if you have a minute to spare. It's about Romanization in the table. Regards Moooitic ( talk) 23:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Please do not use rollback in a content dispute to revert another user's good-faith edits. As you most likely know, rollback is only to revert obvious bad-faith changes. Thank you. – Juliancolton | Talk 20:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
You've copped a lot of insults, but I hope we're approaching an end to the wrangling with the anonymous user regarding Cantonese/Yue, etc.
In a narrow sense I think he has a point, i.e., there is such a thing as "Standard Cantonese" that is recognised by everyone, and Taishanese isn't recognised as "dialect" of Standard Cantonese by native speakers. That is, while Taishanese is seen by linguists as a variety of "Cantonese" (Yue) in the broader sense, is not regarded as a dialect of (Standard) "Cantonese" by people who speak those languages. I think that's an important insight.
Anyway, I hope we get to a satisfactory conclusion. I think that this editor has really highlighted how unsatisfactory it is to use "Cantonese" for "Yue Chinese" as a whole.
Bathrobe ( talk) 03:01, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
There's no need to avoid using phonemic transcriptions simply because they have not been immediately defined. If a user wanted to know what /a/ means in a certain language, they would research the language's phonology. It's alright to be flexible in terms of how things are defined; this is emphasized in the Handbook of the Internation Phonetic Association. There are a few things that are not as flexible, though. You can't use brackets if it is not meant to be a phonetic description. And as for English, /ɹ/ is almost certainly the most accurate way to describe the phoneme as [ɹ] is the most common pronunciation of the phoneme. DJ1AM ( talk) 03:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
This is kind of related to my earlier suggestion made elsewhere regarding the use of IPA at {{ Infobox Korean name}} (if you recall). I was wondering if there is some kind of template/category scheme for requesting that IPA be added to an article, e.g. in the same kind of way that {{ Needhangul}} adds a page to Category:Articles needing Korean script or text? PC78 ( talk) 23:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I see that you've reverted the change made by User:Jillzilla at 18:31 on 19 August 2009. Her/his edit summary said "Changed pronounciation of "york" to match what the speaker who made the recording said (as I found the page, the recording is of a UK speaker and the IPA is for a North American)."
Very few UK speakers (and even fewer who live in the York area, as I do) pronounce the r, whereas most North Americans would do so. Doesn't it make sense to have a British English pronunciation and matching IPA for an English city rather than a mixture of the two, or, indeed an all-US pronunciation/IPA rendition? (Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick here - I'm no expert on IPA). Best. -- Guillaume Tell 16:04, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Exquisitely wrong of course, and an odd assertion from someone who has never even been to the UK ;) -- Kudpung ( talk) 09:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)The weird thing is that in RP it really is /ˈwʊstər/, with a real /r/. You hear that if you put "is" after it. Well, in real RP, anyway. Maybe not in local Worcester dialect. So we might could say "locally /wʊstə/", but not "rp: /wʊstə/'
Hey Kwamikagami, I noticed that you were the one that semi-protected Template:IPA-nl so that's why I'm asking you for help. For usage in the Maastricht article I'm in need of a specific IPA template for "Southern Dutch" (=soft ‹g›/‹ch› pronunciation, as it is normally called) pronunciation (see --> Hard and soft G in Dutch). Whilst Flemish also uses this soft G and the pronunciation of Limburg may resemble it in some form, it does not really fall under that IPA template either. I've also included the "Northern Dutch" (i.e. hard ‹g›/‹ch›) pronunciation in the Maastricht article (especially since the .ogg file speaker uses this). I, however, don't know how to create IPA templates. Could you by any chance help me out? Thanks in advance for your time and help! Kind regards, LightPhoenix ( talk) 12:07, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, in response to your earlier question about co-parents-in-law in Korean (sadon), the male and female terms are actually different. [1]
Dictionaries list 査頓 for the Hanja, but one dictionary says that sadon is actually a native-Korean word. -- Kjoon lee 08:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hakka Malaysians. It appears that you accidentally posted the comment twice. You may want to undo the second comment. Cheers, Cnilep ( talk) 15:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, I was wondering why you undid my edits to Dysnomia (moon). The referenced source BrownandSchaller2007 clearly says: `circular orbit with radius 37350km` (not distance), and `mass of Eris` (not mass of the system). These are exactly the changes I made, which you undid. Any particular reason? Trewal ( talk) 19:50, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Can we please rename Category:Haumeids to Category:Haumea family members, or even get rid of it altogether since it's in the Haumea drop-down box? The latter is the terminology used in Haumea-related published papers, the former is a neologism. Iridia ( talk) 08:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kwami,
Could you please add the pronounciation (IPA) for the Batrachotomus article (Greek: batrachos/βάτραχος (frog) and tome/τομή (cutting, slicing). Thank you! Liopleurodon93 ( talk) 15:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Haumeids ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Iridia ( talk) 12:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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一年前你濫用管理員職權移動 Cantonese為你所喜好的標題 Yue Chinese,被絕多數否定。今天又重來,死性不改,這次remove,還不准別人undo。作為母語為粵語的人,跟其他粵語母語者一樣,我們絕對不能接受粵語英文名改為荒唐的“Yue Chinese”。強烈譴責你固執、不當的行為!-- Newzebras ( talk) 04:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Thanks for participating in wikipedia. Your contributions are encouraged. However, recently you reverted some of my cited edits. I have provided valid citations for each of the following edits. If you cannot provide valid citations then your edits are not valid. Removing edits containing valid citations is considered vandalism. I will be reverting your changes. Please provide some counter citations to assert your edits, or open a discussion on the respective talk pages before reverting further. In each of the cases, you did not provide any citation nor reference to back up your edits. Regardless of your personal emotions with "territories", they are clearly NOT countries and you cannot make such edits without references. Thanks. // Mark Renier ( talk) 08:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
With so much opposition to your recent move perhaps it would be best for you to stop making all of these changes in all articles that mention "Cantonese" to suit your recent move. Clearly not all editors who have edited those pages are wrong, and now must suddenly conform to this standard that you have imposed. Kindly wait until we can reach some kind of community consensus on this issue, please. Colipon+( Talk) 22:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Recently, after a non-involved administrator moved the article to "Cantonese (linguistics)", you decided to move the article back to the name that you had imposed earlier. Again, as an administrator involved in this dispute, it would be proper to seek consensus before making such moves. Until now you have moved the page three times to "Yue Chinese", and you have not gone through the proper procedures to seek consensus in each of those cases. In the absence of a community consensus, and especially in light of the massive opposition that the move to "Yue Chinese" has now gathered, I respectfully ask that the page be moved back to "Cantonese" or "Cantonese (linguistics)" as soon as possible, and then discussion can continue there. I am hopeful that we can seek a solution on this issue together. Thanks! Colipon+( Talk) 23:07, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
You might be interested in the change I made to {{ LangWithName}} (the core for many language templates such as {{ zh-stp}}); it's described at Template talk:LangWithName#Delinking. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 03:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The more I look, the more I feel the mess at Category:Chinese multilingual support templates is out of control. There seems to be a lot of redundancy with all these templates...redundancy in of itself isn't bad, but it causes problems when one template is updated (like I recently did), since there are like a hundred others that need to be updated as well, and it can't necessarily be done with AWB.
So, to that end, I just created
User:Rjanag/zh, a template that I believe has the functionality of all of these templates. The only difference is that you have to use named parameters, not numbered...but I think most of these template calls used named parameters anyway (ie, {{
zh-cp|c=某|p=something}}
, rather than {{
zh-cp|某|something}}
). When making it, I was careful to make sure that I didn't lose any of the functionalities contained in any of the other templates. Ideally, this template could be moved to {{
zh}}
and then all articles could just use that one, and display the relevant Chinese and romanizations based on what templates are used (for example, some would use {{
zh|c=something|p=something|l=something}}
, while others might use {{
zh|s=something|t=something|p=something}}
, the difference being that the second one gives both simplified and traditional). Currently, though, {{
zh}} is a redirect to {{
zh icon}} and a lot of pages seem to use it; it might be used in other ways, too, because its WhatLinksHere says it's included in some random pages (for instance,
Quiznos) but I can't find it in the wikitext, suggesting that it's a transclusion within a transclusion....
Anyway, I'm thinking that if it's possible some day for me to go through and manually replace the {{zh}}s with {{zh icon}}s, then I can move this new template to there and slowly start replacing specific templates (like {{zh-cp}}) with this one, in all the articles where they're used. Do you have any thoughts on this? rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 06:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
{{
zh-s}}
(after usurping that...or I could just give it a new name), do that for everything, and then make {{
zh}}
itself be nothing more than a shell template that has a big #switch statement deciding which thing to show and when. It sounds like something I can play around with in my userspace for a while...these things always seem to work out better in my head than they do in actual code!{{
zh}}
template left more or less as-is to be used in most cases (where people aren't concerned about ordering and the current version is sufficient), and something new, like {{
zh-full}}
or something, which would have extended functionality but also more parameters and more complicated syntax.
rʨanaɢ
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contribs
15:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)The people behind Jyutping are just pushy (off Wiki I mean); it has flaws, especially for an English speaking audience, especially the j for [j] and c for [tʃ] thing. Is it not possible to have the ordering flexible, as in, that if you move one above the other manually, they display that way? I must confess to a high degree of ignorance regarding templates. Akerbeltz ( talk) 18:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
{{zh | ....... | first=t}}
, and many of the simplified-first with just {{zh}}
(but I haven't done all of them...there are still several thousand more, so rather than trying to do them by hand I'm starting to fiddle with bot stuff). So things that already have first=t won't be changed if I update the template, but things that don't (i.e., any articles about mainland China stuff) will be changed, unless a simple way can be found to go and insert first=s into all of them.
rʨanaɢ
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00:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Hi. When you edited Ycatapom Peak you make a syntax error that broke the infobox. I fixed it and it was no big thing. I noticed you used AWB. I know that it is easy to save articles in AWD without checking the results. I've learned the hard way by making the same kind of little mistake and then not catching it by viewing the results. Just a heads up. – droll [chat] 19:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Kwamikagami. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 03:01, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry if creating this tab is inappropriate, I am somewhat unfamiliar with editing ettiquette, as will become apparent shortly. You recently reverted every revision I made this summer, including cited links, and I would like to inquire why? I see now that certain elements of my edits (I am the later (or possibly both) 41.xxx IPs (from Egypt) on the Middle Bronze Age Alphabets article) I created an account thereafter). I realize that some elements of my postings may have been either controversial or perhaps bordering on personal research.
However, I would like to point out that what I added added the first actual citations to various sections as well as new analysis to already present substantive evidence. I am curious what qualifications you have to judge and remove cited material while leaving uncited material unscathed; could you please provide a rationale? Particularly for the inclusion of Arabic letters to the table, I was mostly citing Wiki's pages on letters... which trace the 'etymology' of letters across Semitic languages including Arabic. Why is the presence of Arabic on the chart detrimental? Additionally how has Colless's material been accepted as anything beyond the opinion of one man, with a huge polemical bias and a questionable set of credentials, working out of New Zealand? (Particularly since his blog and his postings on the internet have broadly been criticized (along with everything else) as not reflecting an academic consensus...)
I am truly at a loss, I have only recently begun contributing, generally on obscure personal interests, and I assumed that this article would profit not only from citations but also from alternative analysis to essentially speculative issues. You will note that one of the maybe 2 or 3 actually published articles on the Wadi el-Hol scripts is not present, only Colless's reconstruction is present, though the literature he has published is solely on the Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions and not on Wadi el-Hol?
Assuming there is no reasonable explanation of the distinction in verifiability issues, shouldn't all of this material also be removed? Thank you in advance. Msheflin ( talk) 21:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey, as a semi-related issue. I was looking through the Table on the discussion page (with the Ugaritic) and I noticed that in Ugaritic, the dhayp (I don't have that character handy) character is called dhal in Ugaritic. I am not particularly familiar with the Greek system of writing and I'm wondering if that's where the name dhayp comes from? Like... two things, first of all, the idea that ziqq replaced dhayp I think is an uncited Colless addition. But regardless, where does that name come from, because I would have to assume the Ugaritic name would be earlier, and thus the Arabic and Ugaritic characters would be named and pronounced the same, separated only by a huge gap in time - suggesting continuity rather than replacement as stands now. The Ugaritic character is cited on the Ugaritic page I believe. So where did we come up with the other name? Michael Sheflin 01:55, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Yea... That's why someone pointed out a while back on the other discussion that taking letter names from modern iterations may be misleading. However, I have never heard that name before and on the table, it is not listed as belonging to a particular language/alphabet. So if Ugarit has any attestation, it would imply that the earlier name was dhal (and that the only remaining/known extant names are also dhal). Michael Sheflin ( talk) 19:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Dude... I understand that my 'citations needed' were excessive, and if you notice, they all followed a questionable assertion, like southern Egypt was "in the heart of literate Egypt." I think that deserves another citation than the preceding clause, "very similar to the Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions." Two questionable (but supportable) assumptions, need two citations in my humble opinion. Why did you revert my links to the meaning of b3l? If it was another does of bulk perversion, could you please return those citation?
You are once again reverting citations... I realize you questioned Tower of Babel's credentials, but its founder, Stratosin or whatever his name is is dead, and it is partnered with the following academic institutions:
The Russian State University of the Humanities (Center of Comparative Linguistics) The Moscow Jewish University The Russian Academy of Sciences (Dept. of History and Philology) The Santa Fe Institute (New Mexico, USA) The City University of Hong Kong The Leiden University
Institutions, not individuals, to me that suggests greater reliability. (Michael Sheflin on friend's laptop) 41.196.211.23 ( talk) 22:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
You don't understand what synthesis and original research are. Which is amazing because you've done this so long and are notably and deservedly decorated as such. I explained, in a previous post on the MBAA discussion what synthesis is. OR is research I have done. Starotsin has nothing to do with this site; it is the largest Semitic etymology database on the web. This database (in contrast to the uncited assertion that ba'lat means lady (in byblos it did, by the way ba'lat gebel meant the lady of Byblos). Ba'lat was a goddess, so her name is a proper noun too... (not OR, why not read Wikipedia?). Additionally, the taa suffix in virtually every Semitic language is linguistically related to the feminization of the word (in hebrew it is hah (and in some dialects of arabic it is as well)). In current arabic, it is called taa marbuta (final taa) but often pronounced as +eh and sometimes takes the form of taa. This would be like removing a citation, as OR, from a French article claiming that personne is the feminization of person (by claiming that person is attested, and that editors qualified in grammar will realize it is inappropriate, therefore, to remove that citation.
I included the conjugation issue, because again, in most or possibly all known Semitic languages, taa often serves as a conjugation of the verb either for 3rd person singular feminine, first person, or second person. That's not OR, this is a misunderstanding, but I really don't appreciate it. This is also what I meant by hijacking, you are taking too much editorial power without fully appreciating what you are doing. About the citations, I guess I understand your point, but my point is that many of these assertions will be (based on my research (that I am not including...)) not verifiable because they are not correct. Rather than removing things, I thought it would be more appropriate to call attention to them. Please either justify your removals or revert my changes. (MS on friend's laptop) 41.196.211.23 ( talk) 23:05, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Kwami, I've prepared a bot to finish up the {{zh}}-related work, and filed a request for approval at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ZhBot. If you have a moment I would appreciate your input (and an extra set of eyes to make sure everything looks ok!). Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 17:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I've just noticed in this edit in May you asserted that /ˈlɪə/ is the pronunciation of "Lear" not "Leah". To my mind, both are pronounced identically (assuming a silent "r"), and my dictionary agrees (Collins Concise Dictionary, 4th ed, 1999, ISBN 0 00 472257 4). Another editor has just deleted the pronunciation altogether. What do you think the difference is? -- Dr Greg talk 12:28, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I have restored this article as you should not have deleted it. You were engaged in trying to delete the article through AfD and other methods when you speedy deleted it. If you wish to have the article deleted, you will need to take it to AfD again and go through the process there rather than just deleting the article yourself. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:38, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
File:Velotype.jpg is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:File:Velotype.jpg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case: [[File:Velotype.jpg]]. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. -- Erwin85Bot ( talk) 00:25, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
That whole article is lacking inline citations and there is significant dispute about all points and assertions. The only way to get a start on that is look at each citation needed tag and determine if a citation exists. If so, put it in, if not remove the assertion. The number of such tags reflects the quality of the article's references. Nerdseeksblonde ( talk) 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
I think it's kind of only fair that if you think it is excessive to include more than 1 cite-needed thing per sentence (with more than one assertion) please break the assertions up into individual sentences and put my tags back in at a rate of 1 per sentence. Otherwise, I think what I did was really fair. One x-needed per each claim (at a rate of more-than-one claim/assertion per sentence). This is a chief reason the article is so questionable in general... (Michael Sheflin on friend's laptop) 41.196.211.23 ( talk) 22:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
You've now reverted everything. Again, why did you remove cited material of relevance to the article?
You see? I haven't really touched your changes, but you keep reverting ALL of mine, as if it were personal; and including cited material of relevance to academic literature that (I shouldn't have to say this) is not MY OPINION. How do you not see the asymmetry here, and how do we start some form of protection so that you aren't the only one editing this article? (MS) 41.196.211.23 ( talk) 23:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Should we put then /kɒskiˈʊʃkoʊ, kɒskiˈɒskoʊ/ for Brooklyn and /kɒziˈɛskoʊ/ for Mississippi? What about the secondary stress on the first syllable? Regards.-- Carnby ( talk) 09:40, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, thanks, that'll make this less tedious. Typing all the <small> tags was annoying. -- Cybercobra (talk) 02:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey kwami,
I was about to get on AWB and start replacing, for example, tɕ with ʨ...in the process I was also going to replace t͡ɕ with the single-graph version. But then I noticed in the IPA article here that apparently the single versions are no longer standard? If that is the case, should I be replacing everything with the tie-bar versions, rather than vice versa? (I was a bit surprised, because in a recent job of mine, where I was transcribing Monguor texts and converting things from practical orthography to IPA, I was always told to represent single phones with single characters wherever possible, and thus I always used the ʨ/ʦ/ʥ/etc.) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 21:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Please explain why you remove this edit. It is well documented in multiple well regarded online articles, including a reference to one of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikev ( talk • contribs) 21:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
That is your opinion. It is documented that this is trademarked. Do you think is is reasonable to undo my comments on the talk page? Erikev ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:59, 6 October 2009 (UTC).
Wait: the talk page has centered on copyright, and that's what I was going on. If it's trademarked, that info will be available online. Let me take a look to see if I can find it. Or maybe you can? kwami ( talk) 22:10, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
No, nothing registered in Canada or the US, and no claim to trademark that I can see on her website. kwami ( talk) 22:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I think I've now eliminated (at least from article space) all instances where Template:IPA-pl was being used with the multiple pipes in the style of {{ IPAr}}. So if you want to change IPA-pl to make it behave the same way as the other IPA-xxx templates (or redirect it to IPA-pol? I don't remember what the plan was) then it ought to be possible now.-- Kotniski ( talk) 07:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
By the way, there may be a problem with the square brackets on IPA-pl - the old version didn't add brackets, whereas I suppose the current version will be adding them, to be consistent with the other IPA-xx templates. So there may be articles which transclude this template but include brackets, thus leading to double brackets.-- Kotniski ( talk) 09:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Use it, or don't. What's up there is not correct. It means the tail or rump, not the sheep. Michael Sheflin ( talk) 09:36, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, you're better on African languages than I am - I think this page needs a quick check. Akerbeltz ( talk) 22:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Is drawn. ÷ seresin 05:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I have restored the category Category:Cantonese (linguistics) as I couldn't find a discussion about its deletion. If it needs to be deleted or renamed then it should be listed up at WP:CfD. Thanks. Tassedethe ( talk) 08:06, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Do you think you could remove the small "Hungarian pronunciation: " from the start of Template:IPAc-hu? This would make it consistent with the Polish one, and with the Japanese and English ones I started in the same series. I've checked all the article space transclusions and none of them require these extra words (except for one which I've reworded accordingly).-- Kotniski ( talk) 09:37, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I think the final vowel in Bowie is not long: the pronunciation found in this page was an IPA transcription of this one. There's also an audio file here (an American speaker) where the final vowel seems to be /i/. Cheers-- Carnby ( talk) 02:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello, i'm looking for informations about this image : File:Uranian system schematic.jpg. I know it's old, but do you remember where you got this image ? (like nasa's website or something), just to add a better source to the description on Commons. Thanks ! -- Lilyu ( talk) 04:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Are any references available for the things you wrote in Modern_evolution_of_Esperanto? Rikat ( talk) 23:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, would you consider part protecting this page for a few day? There's a couple of ppl pushing a weirder than usual "greater basque country" pov on that page and it's beginning to take up considerable amounts of my time policing it. Akerbeltz ( talk) 00:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if you noticed, but I've undone your attempt to add Occitan to the IPA pronunciation key for Catalan. I haven't gone through and fixed pages that use {{ IPA-ca}} for Occitan pronunciation since I thought you might want to create an WP:IPA for Occitan and {{ IPA-oc}}. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 06:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, I have the following problems with the edits and unfortunately very little time to follow you:
1-A few scholars have bothered....,and then a contradiction follows:3 scholars opinions are stated.”A few scholars heve bothered...” is insulting for a biography.You may decide rewording it.”Some scholars have strongly contested” or something like that should be read.
2-De Hoz critics are only for one book :the first one “El origen de los Vascos” (Origin of the Basques).This was done in 1999.This should be stated for a biography.Critics do not apply to all other books published later
http://books.google.com/books?q=Arnaiz-Villena&btnG=Buscar+libros&hl=es
3-The apparent Pichler critics come from an unreliable publication.Has he written these critics?This should have been removed according to Vandenberg mediation
4-Dumu Eduba is too repetitive:it needs to be stated that Lakarra only studied 32 words out of thousands and from this cannot be inferred that 85% of the linguistics work is wrong.You may decide to rewrite this and synthesize what Dumu Eduba wants to add.
Please let me know your opinion. Best regards -- Virginal6 ( talk) 21:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
[3] ÷ seresin 23:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
If you check the Epirus (region) page this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EpirusEduMap.jpg is clearly original research and clearly Greek POV. I put an original tag on it and it gets removed. A user claims it comes from all of these sources, but this is still original research to read several sources and create a map from them. As well, other sources from linguistics or anthropology do not come up with these same conclusions. Azalea pomp ( talk) 22:15, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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I'm very sorry about that. My to {{ IPA-hu}} dropped a closing bracket. I fixed it and tested the result on the lead to Béla Bartók. Eubulides ( talk) 20:02, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I've sent you an e-mail, if you reply to me I can pass along the Langdon paper for the AAH. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 12:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Hey there, for ever ago you mentioned that the OED has a citation where the h of ch, sh, th is described as effectively being an "in-line diacritic". Could you please refer me to a concrete example of this usage? Thanks, Dan ☺ 18:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I have seen them described as such but I can't for the life of me remember where. Akerbeltz ( talk) 21:08, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Given how oddly the IAU has handled dwarf planet inclusion and exclusion over the last three years, I would rather wait until an official pronouncement before I start rewriting candidate pages. Serendi pod ous 21:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I might not've paid attention to your recent changes of the single- guillemets to the angle brackets, but this discussion has me thinking about what basis our policy of using them to mark off orthographic items is. If we don't have a stated policy on it, we ought to make sure our choice is accurate before we construct one and encourage other editors to do the same. A search of the specific angle brackets included turned up the article Bracket, which says:
Chevrons are part of standard Chinese, and Korean punctuation, where they generally enclose the titles of books: ︿ and ﹀ or ︽ and ︾ for traditional vertical printing, and 〈 and 〉 or 《 and 》 for horizontal printing.
Which makes me think that the guillemets are actually correct. What led you to believe it was 〈 and 〉?— Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 05:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I see that you moved "Belizean Kriol language" to "Belizean Creole". "Creole" is fine to me but I think that we should keep the "language" in the article name. Frst, "Creole language" may sound redundant to linguists, but outside linguistics "Creole" often also means a ethnic group, so the title as it is now is ambiguous. Also the "creole" of linguists is a generic term and should be lower case, whereas here it is part of the language name. In fact, the name almost certainly meant in origin "the language spoken by the Creole people of Belize" rather that "the creole language of Belize". Finally, even though the language is almost always called just "Belizean Creole", its is general practice in WP to append "language" to the name of languages. Compare " English language", " Greek language", etc. What do you think? All the best, -- Jorge Stolfi ( talk) 15:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, you may remember me asking for some broad feedback on the Erromintxela article some time ago. I did eventually nominate it for GA and - much to my surprise and please - was passed on most things (including the wordlists) straight away. The main outstanding criticism centres around the lead and some stylistic issues. As writing style is definitely one of my weaker points, I was wondering if you'd be interested in helping me sort out the article? With all those featured articles under your belt, you probably have a much better graps on what might need changing - I'd be much obliged. Akerbeltz ( talk) 18:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Here is an archive search box for your talk page. You can modify it and place it according to your preferences.
Dabomb87 ( talk) 22:46, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
I noticed that you reverted my addition of Gwahatike (also called Dahating) to the list of language isolates and removed the statement that Gwahatike is a language isolate from its article. Do you have any sources stating that Gwahatike is not a language isolate? I added the information that it is a language isolate because of this issue of Pacific Linguistics which states that "The Dahating... is a language isolate spoken in a number of villages sout of Saidor." Is there a reason that you do not trust this source?
Neelix ( talk) 16:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kwami. You seem to be active on the Language family article. I was wondering if you know who made the new language families map? I would like to use the map with proper attrib, but can't figure out who the contributor is. Thanks a bunch! - Chinmay7 ( talk) 04:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Take it there. Josh Parris 11:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
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Yes, it looks like there is a difference in the way the API returns inward links compared with the way whatlinkshere does, which something else had made me suspect. I will file an AWB bug once I remember what the other piece of evidence was. As far as the un-ref goes it is better to have an external link (or better references) section as at " Tetete lanaguage", I will look into automatically adding this. One of the reasons for getting rid of the "Erik9bot" category and replacing it with a tag was visibility, so that the (relatively few) which are wrong can be quickly fixed, unfortunately the same "tags are evil" group that made the cat-not-tag the initial approach also argued against visible tags on stubs - community consensus can change this at any point of course now the tags are in place, we can make them visible for certain topics for example, should we desire. Also it wuld be possible to create "unreffed XXX articles/stubs" categories where that is considered helpful by a project/group/editor. Rich Farmbrough, 18:51, 17 December 2009 (UTC).
Hi! It looks to be quite certain that Na'vi will soon have a following of people that want to learn the language so I created a Facebook group for it yesterday. I also added a note that you're probably one of the best people online to contact about the language, since without a published grammar all we have is the dialogue from the movie and interviews with the creator from which to figure it out, and you seem to be doing the most legwork in that area.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=240828625238
Mithridates ( talk) 16:53, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Great, I put up a link there showing the changes over the past day. BTW, do you have a Facebook ID as well? Or are you the person that added a comment a few hours ago on the possessive suffix? Mithridates ( talk) 12:40, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Why have you removed my addition, when according to your page you have never resided in the UK? this is the English Language edition and it is a [Colloquialism|colloquial] term used in the UK. 80.101.231.27 ( talk) 14:52, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it is. To say that Scouse isn't a name for Liverpudlian is just as encyclopedic, it is not trivia - which I agree is not encyclopedic. 80.101.231.27 ( talk) 15:13, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
This is the English Language Wikipedia and it is an English term - if you want to remove colloquialism you will be editing 100,000.00 of pages. If those edits can stay so can mine. Check out the English pages on Liverpudlian redirected to Liverpool and Scouse. In this English Wikipedia we have thousands of pages dedicated to colloquialism, so you have made the decision that these are no longer valid? Riveira2 ( talk) 15:30, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Do you know of languages that have a minimal pair for a/ɑ other than southern American English time/Tom?-- Curtis Clark ( talk) 22:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Characters and wildlife in Avatar is now sent to AFD. This message is being sent to everyone who worked on it, who isn't already there. Dream Focus 19:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Noting your change of the article's title to Heiltsuk dialect, and I suppose with Oowekyala there was no need for a name change because that title is the name of that dialect, on the one hand "Heiltsuk language" is the most common use; but if the "dialect" paradigm is the way things are gonna be, then the same should apply to Saanich language, Klallam language, Lummi language etc which are the subdialects of North Straits Salish....there's a few other examples like this in the general region - Kaska, Tahtlan and Nahanni I believe, and some others I can't recall just now....also there's Sinixt language which SFAIK is a dialect of Okanagan (or is it Colville, or are all three "cousin" dialects of an unnamed language, which maybe includes Sanpoil?). Skookum1 ( talk) 15:33, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
kwami, there's a guy edit warring at Middle East. I changed the relationship of Turkish to Turkic from "Altaic" and noted that Altaic is not a widely accepted term. He keeps reverting back to Altaic even though he's not a linguist and doesn't know what he's talking about. I need some support there. ( Taivo ( talk) 20:17, 26 December 2009 (UTC))
I have nominated Na'vi language, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Na'vi language. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. > RUL3R> trolling> vandalism 10:58, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, a nationalist has moved Northern Cyprus to Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus against consensus. This has happened before with nationalist editors. I can't move it back this time for some reason (sometimes I can and sometimes I can't). Could you move it back? The idiot left the talk page at Northern Cyprus even. Thanks. Hope your holidays have been great. ( Taivo ( talk) 15:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC))
It seems everywhere I turn lately, I come across another article that you have worked very hard on and have greatly improved. Since I don't feel I have the authority to award you a barnstar (and since you seem to have so many already), I figured I'd just leave a note on your talk page (which, incidentally, is quite a mess at this point in time). So thank you very much for your hard work and dedication to improving the linguistics section of Wikipedia. (As an aside: do you have an Internet existence outside of Wikipedia that I may be interested in knowing about? Thanks again.) — Gordon P. Hemsley→ ✉ 16:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I have been watching Aquatic ape hypothesis for some time and am irritated by the conflation of AAH with pseudoscience. Accordingly, I have no problem with your most recent , but I suggest that it should be self-reverted because the article is protected and an edit under that condition may cause trouble. Johnuniq ( talk) 03:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for helping clean up some of the mess that is the Hardest language article. If you didn't notice yet, I left a proposal ( Talk:Hardest language#Time to think about moving?) to try and redefine the scope and purpose of the article so there might be some hope of cleaning it up. I also recently came this 1999 Foreign Language Education article which might have some useful information (or at least be a helpful starting point) for rewriting some of the article, if you're interested. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 01:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Gidday kwami, how's things? As a one-time major contributor, you maybe interested in the AfD that has been raised for this, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of languages by number of native speakers according to two websites...cheers, -- cjllw ʘ TALK 22:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Kwamikagami: I put "according to whom?" and "which?" notes on your two most recent edits to the "trial" section of the "grammatical number" article. I didn't undo them, I only asked for specificity and for a cited reference. I undid your most recent edit to the "quadral" section, because the only reference given directly contradicts what you said. I thought of several reasons for this; among them, (1) maybe the reference (a particular edition of Corbett's book) is out-of-date (2) maybe Corbett's book only talks about one of those languages and the information you give is about a different one. I hope you can tell I'm not trying to start an "edit war"; I just want the facts you know to be backed up, and not to erase the "facts" I know unless they're not "facts" after all. Read [7] pp 21 ff, section 2.2.3, for a list of languages that have trial. The book says Larike has trial only in its pronouns, but it doesn't say about any of the other languages that they don't have it in their nouns. It shows several languages having their trial become a paucal, and one having its paucal become a trial. Read [8] pp. 26 ff, section 2.2.5, about quadrals, and about Sursurunga, Tangga, Lihir, and Marshallese. I haven't found a reference that states clearly that some language does have trial in its nouns; but neither have a found one that states none of them do. Thanks -- Eldin raigmore ( talk) 17:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Maybe you should create a template for edits like this? -- Amir E. Aharoni ( talk) 21:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
I notice that you have contributed to List of shibboleths; i have made a [ suggestion] on the talk page that you might be interested in commenting on. If that article no longer holds your interest, i apologise for intruding, and return you to previously scheduled programming. Cheers, Lindsay Hi 08:42, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that you reverted my edit on Na'vi language, suggesting that it scrambled typefaces. But isn't that exactly what your revert did: scramble typefaces?
If I have something that I'd like to emphasize, by using italics, bold text, colored text or something else, I typically don't want to emphasize commas and periods as well – the only exception being when the punctuation marks in question are part of that logical element of text that I want to emphasize.
For instance, suppose that I want to emphasize “A” and “C” in the text “There is A, B, and C.” I would have to do it like this (I'm using color here instead of italics or bold text to exaggerate): “There is A, B, and C.” Note that the colored text does include neither comma nor period. This is how your edit would make it look: “There is A, B, and C.” Highlighting comma and period like this, neither of which are part of the logical element of text that I want to emphasize, looks completely unacceptable: notice in particular how the comma that follows “A” looks different from the one that follows “B”.
Maybe I am mistaken, and there is in fact a policy on Wikipedia that states exactly this (in which case I would appreciate you directing me to it), but in my opinion we should remove punctuation marks from emphasized words on the Na'vi language article; there are exceptions to this (obviously where punctuation marks are part of the emphasized text element) but I think that I didn't touch any of these with my first edit. Sebastian… talk 10:45, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
The weird thing is that in RP it really is /ˈwʊstər/, with a real /r/. You hear that if you put "is" after it. Well, in real RP, anyway. Maybe not in local Worcester dialect. So we might could say "locally /wʊstə/", but not "rp: /wʊstə/".
I'm sorry Kwami, but I can't let this go, but I'm not going to respond on that talk page. Your are quite wrong. It's totally the opposite. I come from five miles outside Worcester. Malvern is one of the towns in the the UK with the most marked use of RP almost to the extent that RP is its local accent, and an awfully rather posh one at that, so snobs with posh accents like ours certainly know how Worcester is pronounced by the masses. Neither of the 'r' s in Worcester are pronounced by the educated majority. However, if you go to work wearing a pitchfork, you most probably will roll them all!. --
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Hola,
On the AAH talk page we were discussing the Molken ( Moken?) as evidence of a human aquatic adaptation. I was farting about on underwater vision and found this article suggesting their abilities may be due to training rather than evolution. Thought you'd be interested. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 15:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, there's an IP edit warrior at Aramaic language. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks. ( Taivo ( talk) 22:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC))
I can find references to Korean language being Altaic in general, and rarely a language isolate. Can you put in some citations for the Language Isolate theory. :) -- Objectiveye ( talk) 04:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The weird thing is that in RP it really is /ˈwʊstər/, with a real /r/. You hear that if you put "is" after it. Well, in real RP, anyway. Maybe not in local Worcester dialect. So we might could say "locally /wʊstə/", but not "rp: /wʊstə/
I realise that you dare a linguist of some standing and that you have shared your extensive knowledge with WP, but with the above comment you wonderfully wrong of course, it is exactly the opposite of what you are saying - and what the heck is real RP? I come from just six miles outside Worcester. Malvern is one of the towns in the the UK with the most marked use of RP, almost to the extent of it being its local accent, and an awfully rather posher one than the 'southern' or Home Counties RP that some liguists mistakenly claim to be 'standard' British English. You must not forget that "It is the business of educated people to speak so that no-one may be able to tell in what county their childhood was passed."(A. Burrell: A Handbook for Teachers in Public Elementary Schools). Malvern is a Mecca of some of the most elite of British boarding schools; it is a place a where daily clothing is by default, Burberry, green welly boots or Veldtshoen, and thick wooly stockings. People carry hockey sticks, lacross sticks, or shooting sticks everywhere, and drive their kids to school and go to the mall in Landrovers with permanently attached empty horseboxes (I often feel that Malvern and its mansions, manors, and manners should have been the model for Midsomer Murders). You go into a pub's lounge bar and nearly everyone standing at the counter is a 'Sir' somebody or other with an accent to match, but wearing worn out tweeds and looking as if they've just come in from planting potatoes. Neither of the 'r' s in Worcester are pronounced by the educated majority. However, if like some of the few, you use the other room in the pub (the one with the dartboard and pool table), or go to work wearing a pitchfork, you most probably will roll them all. And roll around in draught cider (with a rhotic final 'r') too!
On British accents, probably the best authority is Peter Trudgill with whom I've had the greatest honour of working in the past, but no one seems to mention him . He's worth reading. As you have never been to the UK it might help fill the gaps ;) -- Kudpung ( talk) 08:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Quite impressive work down there on Na'vi language. One month and so many details. Nice work. -- TudorTulok ( talk) 14:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, this is contradictory to the Wikipedia assertion that mute letters should be shown as pronounced phonems in the IPA transcription.:
It is not expected that speakers of any one dialect will pronounce a word or name exactly as we transcribe it; rather, by using this key, they should understand how to pronounce it in their own dialect. In order to show how individuals pronounce their name in their dialect, or how inhabitants pronounce a place name in the local dialect,
And your section on Narrow versus broad transcription is unsourced and therefore possible inviting suggestions that it might be considered by some to be OR and/or POV :)-- Kudpung ( talk) 03:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
There is currently a second proposal for the Closure of Sango Wikipedia. You are encouraged to voice your opinion regarding this matter. -- 202.36.179.66 ( talk) 04:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hardest_language
Tell me the reason why you removed Japanese from the list. It is true that some scholars regard the Japanese language as a language isolate. The Japanese Wikipedia contains both theories that the Japanese is isolated and that the Japanese belongs to the Japonic family. Your edit does not make any sense to me.-- Je suis tres fatigue ( talk) 09:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I thought I'd let you know as well - http://masempul.org/upxare-niinglisi/ it's a new message from Paul Frommer that just came out a few minutes ago. Mithridates ( talk) 20:41, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
It's perfectly linear and perfectly abjadic.
The substance is content-related both to the symbol depicted above the vertical inscription, and with the other 50+ inscriptions in Egyptian on that rock, some of which refer to Hathor-worship and one of which refers (in Eg.) to the Maiden of Byblos.
This appears to be linking Athtar (Ishtar) with Hathor as Ba'alat was in Serabit al-Khadem. However, this language is Ugaritic not Canaanite and is influenced semantically by Akkadian.
The paper I'm working on clarifies why there are apparent paleographic shifts particularly with the affrications that occurred from Northwest Semitic to Canaanite and later Phoenician. The other support (like D_ and Z. come from Ugaritic voicing peculiarities, in addition to the already clear paleographic similarities between (particularly) Thamudic D_ and Wadi D_)
What do you think? Michael Sheflin ( talk) 08:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I have responded to both your comments at WT:MAMMAL and those at WT:RODENT. — innotata ( Talk • Contribs) 23:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
This edit was not an acceptable use of the rollback tool (see Wikipedia:Rollback feature). Please be more careful with its use in the future. Thanks, Ucucha 00:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed your edit on Awngi. It is true that Hetzron in 1969 still had evidence for the phoneme /æ/, but now it appears that the sound has left the system. Joswig (2006) in footnote 2 writes: "They (Hetzron and Palmer; LL) both mentioned a seventh vowel /æ/, but this has now entirely merged phonetically with /e/. There is still a phone [æ], but this is a conditioned variant of /e/, appearing after uvular consonants." There is no evidence nowadays that there is such a sound as a variant of /a/ in Awngi. Maybe based on that you want to reconsider your edit. Landroving Linguist ( talk) 09:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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You know, I don't recall ever bumping into you on the site before getting into the Na'vi business, yet it appears we joined the site one day apart back in 2004. Funny coincidences like that always make me chuckle. Oh well, just a random observation. Have a good day! — Huntster ( t @ c) 11:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
By the way, thank you for being a voice of common sense over at Talk:Na'vi language. I can barely look at that hatnote discussion without my blood boiling at the bureaucratic nonsense. I begin to understand why some critics suggest that wiki is not long for this world. — Huntster ( t @ c) 23:41, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I converted the respelling pronunciations directly from the IPA and I've gotten fairly good at it, so if I was wrong then it's probable the IPA is wrong. Could you please explain how the pronunciations were wrong? -- Cybercobra (talk) 11:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I just undid an edit you made to the Wednesday article on 6 June 2009. In that edit, you added a third syllable to the pronunciation of the word when the first "d" is pronounced: you changed /wɛdnzdeɪ/ to /wɛdənzdeɪ/ and /wɛdnzdi/ to /wɛdənzdi/. In my over 60 years speaking and hearing the English language, I don't believe I have ever heard anyone in any part of the world pronounce Wednesday with three distinct syllables, which your transcriptions (with the "ə" between the first "d" and the "n") give it. I also never have seen such a pronunciation documented in any dictionary.
You seem to have much experience with phonetics, but I believe you are mistaken in this instance. If you can document the three-syllable pronunciation, please do so. But in that case you should add those unusual pronunciations instead of replacing the very well-attested two-syllable /wɛdnzdeɪ/ and /wɛdnzdi/ with them, as you did in June.
If I am mistaken in attributing that edit to you, or if some intervening edit I overlooked is responsible, please forgive me and let me know of my error here, with a talkback note to my talk page. Nevertheless, I stand by the change I made to the Wednesday article.
Thanks.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 17:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
As you seem to be involved in WP:RESPELL, would you mind translating Yulia Tymoshenko's IPA into it? Is there a procedure to request such respellings? By the way, I googled without success. It's on forvo but the audio file is muffled. Revelian ( talk) 19:52, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Per your tag on Moses as symbol in American history, the tag states "Please see the discussion on the talk page." Normally, the tag is added after there has been some statement on the article's talk page so that others will know the issues and can comment. I'll remove the tag pending your written dispute, after which time you can put it back. BTW, all of your comments on the TC talk page were your own OR. If you're going to dispute any quotes or writings by cited authors, especially scholarly ones, you'll need to back up your opinions with other than personal comments. -- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 08:45, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
You need to read Wikipedia:Block#Conflicts of interest. You don't block someone for 3RR when they're edit warring with you. You also don't block them for comments they've made when those comments were directed at you. Lack of objectivity, you see. You should also avoid insinuating a user is a repeat offender because you've failed to thoroughly read their block log, particularly if you're going to claim personal attacks and harassment, both of which make you look like a hypocrite. Lara 21:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Hola, note and note. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 19:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi there. I notice you semi-protected indefinitely Wikipedia:IPA for English. I would like to ask you to reconsider, or anyway to give the article another try, since I don't think the disruption (which as you say was anyway generally in good faith) was so frequent or annoying to warrant an indefinite protection. By the way, unless I'm missing something, this is not a template.
Also, I would like to link the IPA symbols to the respective phoneme articles like I have done for Wikipedia:IPA for French and Wikipedia:IPA for Mandarin. I think doing this is quite useful, because those articles normally contain a sound clip to illustrate pronunciation. I'd be interested to know what you think about the idea. Thank you. 122.25.253.166 ( talk) 09:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Don't know what you're referring to exactly. The pronunciation on Wikipedia is correct as far as I can tell. -- Cybercobra (talk) 10:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, hope all is well with you and yours. When you get a couple of minutes, the page Boa Sr needs to be moved to Boa Sr.. There is definitely a period at the end of Sr in her name according to the linguist working on her language. Thanks. ( Taivo ( talk) 14:44, 23 February 2010 (UTC))
Hi Kwami - am I to understand that word-final /r/ is included in UK placenames because (among other reasons) RP possesses linking R? I had thought, at first, that it was only because WP:IPAEN is pan-dialectal (which I agree with). Do we have any sources that transcribe word-final /r/ specifically for RP? Lfh ( talk) 09:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami. You recently changed the balun IPA from /ˈbæl.ʌn/ to /ˈbælən/. Why the change? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't understand it. If it helps the discussion, balun is a contraction of 'balanced-unbalanced'. 85.218.91.20 ( talk) 08:41, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Re: [10] What is your basis for including Kede in the central group? I could offer you a cite for this - as well as a more authoritative one to correct it - but I'd like to hear your reasons. Where are you getting this material? 24.22.141.61 ( talk) 09:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Kwamikagami, your edit here to ghazal appears to invert the meaning of the statement about mispronunciation. Your edit summary was "fix IPA per MOS", but all you seem to have done is change "often mispronounced" to "pronounced", and reverse the order of instances. Can you please clarify? Thanks. -- Yumegusa ( talk) 10:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
An editor is questioning notability as well as altering presentation in ways I feel are unhelpful. Would appreciate your input at Talk:Borean languages. -- JWB ( talk) 20:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
That indeed was OED. And what do you mean about dialects? -- Cybercobra (talk) 02:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
-- Cybercobra (talk) 04:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)(kəʊ'pɜːnɪkən) [f. Copernicus, Latinized form of Koppernik, name of a celebrated astronomer, a native of Thorn in Prussian Poland (1473-1543) + -AN.]
You will, I'm sure, have noted already that castigating me as 'trolling' (whatever that silly term means) on wikipedia talk: IPA for English is rather puerile and, moreover, missing the point. This IPA discussion has rambled, deviated and transmogrified too much for too long. It is, I'm sure, an easier thing to shout 'troll' than actually engage in a sensible discussion of how to wrap this issue up but I should hope (however vainly) that you would be able to refrain from name calling and engage seriously with the matter in hand. Fortnum ( talk) 21:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand this edit. Are you saying that RP is not in fact completely non-rhotic? What is the supposed RP pronounciation of "Cheshire"? My native accent is pretty close to RP, and I've never heard anything but [ˈtʃʰɛʃə] or similar. What is your source for saying otherwise? Cheers Grover cleveland ( talk) 19:35, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, you've been the largest contributor to the French IPA Template, I was wondering if I could get your input concerning the use of [Square Brackets] vs. /Slashes/. The problem likely extends to a number of other of those IPA templates, but for now please refer to the IPA-fr talk page, thanks. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 23:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you explain why you engaged in an edit war and then blocked the other party who was also edit warring? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 02:56, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Think you could adjust the IPA for this page? Right now it has the pronunciation for Mardi Gras, which I just copy and pasted over from that article when I was writing this article a few weeks ago. I was unsure how to do the IPA for the whole phrase tho, so I left a note on the talk page, but no one has done it yet. I noticed you seem to be involved with this, so thought I'd ask. The correct pronunciation is french, so the r's in Courir are practically silent, if that helps. Thanks, Heironymous Rowe ( talk) 23:46, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed this edit and wanted to point out that there doesn't appear to be clear consensus that inclusion of a DEFAULTSORT on every article is necessary or desired. Specifically in the case of taxa, no other article on Wikipedia is going to categorize near Nepenthes pitopangii except other Nepenthes species with the same second word capitalization (lowercase). The DEFAULTSORT, when applied sporadically, also messes up categories that are already correct without any DEFAULTSORTs. Cheers, Rkitko ( talk) 02:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if you saw my post on the Middle Bronze age... etc. discussion page. I am not trying to be combative, but (I am discovering alongside writing this paper), it is generally assumed by scholars that these are simply an earlier iteration of the Proto-Sinaitic script and not a divergent script. The latter hypothesis would (I am guessing) weaken 'their' case that the alphabet followed a simple singular progression. This hurts the organization of the article, but (particularly as my own assessment is the opposite) I have no real suggestions for how to rectify this problem without eviscerating the article. As it stands now, it (the article) is organized by location and time: i.e. the article is itself organized by category-time intersection (alphabet-middle bronze age). However, the internal structure is place-based; i.e. Sinai vs. Thebes. The problem is, and I have spoken personally with Dr. Darnell on this subject, that they refuse to recognize the possibility that the language or script are in fact part of any divergent trend. Therefore (as far as I have been able to find - and my research has been quite extensive), nobody except me argues that they are not Proto-Sinaitic. Hence... I am this page's organization's greatest ally, but the organization itself is a form of OR. Thoughts? Michael Sheflin ( talk) 10:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I sent you my correspondence with Dr. John C. Darnell and Dr. Chip Dobbs-Allsopp. I must acknowledge that my patience wore thin very quickly over the course of these correspondences. Nevertheless, they reiterated their key points to me. Since they don't consider the inscriptions related, it throws an even further fork in a Wadi el-Hol Script. Michael Sheflin ( talk) 22:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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You are not following the rules of Korean romanization. I suggest you read up on the article: Korean romanization and Revised Romanization of Korean (the current standard system used in Korea). Things are Romanized based on the pronunciation, NOT how it is spelled. You are not doing any readers any favors giving them inaccurate information. If you don't have any basic knowledge of Korean, then you probably shouldn't be undoing other people's edits.
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Hi, Kwamikagami. If you can spare a moment, please would you discuss your reverts on my cleanup of and content added to the Amdo Tibetan language at Talk:Amdo Tibetan language. Thank you for your time. Moonsell ( talk) 06:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Kwami. I've wound several discussion threads on several talk pages in to one called: "One language, a number of dialects" on Talk:Tibetan languages. Please, if you can get the time, would you like to follow it there. Best wishes. Moonsell ( talk) 11:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I have just discovered User:Keymanweb/Keymanweb, and then I remembered you as the Wikipedian most likely (to my knowledge) to be able to use the tool for working with different scripts. Here are some related links.
I will watch here for your reply. -- Wavelength ( talk) 21:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Just noticed you removed the flag from the top of the Tibetan languages article saying it needed citations. I think you removed the wrong one. The other flag, saying it needs an expert makes a lot less sense to me.
As for the need for citations, thanks to your edition now we have one. The other, older citation is a broken link and needs to be removed. That is hardly enough for the whole article. I didn't put either of the flags there but I think we should keep the "needs citations" one, not as a badge of dishonour to the article, but as a request for others who read it to help out and add citations. What do you think? Moonsell ( talk) 00:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello Kwami:
I have been researching the "a" sound in Spanish for about a week, and I thought I would improve your example of "father" with another example, namely "tar". The reason for this was simple. "Father" is a rather ambiguous example because in some regions of North America, it is pronounced more like "Fo-ther", where the "a" and "o" sound have merged. This is called the Father-bother merger. If you are a linguist, you may be aware of this. I just wanted to make sure that everyone who comes to the Wikipedia:IPA for Spanish has another example to follow that is not ambiguous and is often used as the only example for the "ah" sound in Spanish. Here is a case in point: [11], where you can see that the only example given is the word "car."
I think that the word "tar" is precisely the example you need to avoid ambiguity. I have no idea why you would so quickly dismiss it, unless you felt offended that anyone would question the word "father" as the sole example for this sound. I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be unbiased. It looks like some editors like to wield their "power" to strike out sensible additions without any good reason.
I did not see any mention of Spanish on your user page. Since when have you become an expert on this language? :) Just curious. Skol fir ( talk) 19:04, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Just to throw in another view, after a discussion at Talk:Southern American English, I've come to realize that a good example for Spanish /a/ is "blinding" (/blandɪn/); in SAE its first vowel is the same as Spanish blando (I don't use "blind" because its vowel is long: /blaːnd/). I'm not actually suggesting a change, but rather that "a" as /a/ is not a familiar sound to many North Americans.-- Curtis Clark ( talk) 13:17, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, hate to bother you but someone is edit warring on Canadian Gaelic, trying to push a (to my and other editors' POV) very strange agenda about "Canadian Gaelic" being an unacceptable term. He also, in his efforts to purge the Gaelic, keeps breaking the link to the map. Much obliged if you could put in a word. Akerbeltz ( talk) 14:31, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
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The original designation of Pinghua as a stub was due in no small part to the lack of objective content and the absence of citations, since then the content has been improved a great deal and citations have been added. What further is required for the article to fairly have the stub classification removed? Johnkn63 ( talk) 11:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for changing the designation on Talk:Pinghua. On the Pinguhua page itself the is a Sino-tibetan stub tag the purpose of which seems a little unclear to me. Suggestions as to the type of material that could be added to the article would be most welcome. Johnkn63 ( talk) 02:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you please come and have a look at the Africa article as I think the edit conflict has almost been resolved now. Yattum ( talk) 21:34, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Notifying you of an ANI discussion. Colipon+( Talk) 19:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
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Regarding the recent discussion at
Talk:International Phonetic Alphabet... if there really is a desire to offer multiple pronunciation guides, what about not listing them inline but putting them in a box off to the right, like the romanization boxes used for some East Asian articles (for example, I think a lot of articles on Korean things have boxes with multiple romanizations). That might be less cluttersome than trying to put them inline, and easier to code (I don't yet know of any way to toggle pronunciation guides inline without using javascript, but in a right-floating box they could just be in a list, and could be hidden in {{
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In reply to your comment, I cannot provide an honest answer to you because I simply do not know. I do not even remember editing such an article but anyhow, the matter is redundant now seeing as you have already taken your time to edit the article.
I will change my password in case such a problem has persisted without my knowledge (I haven't logged in for a while). Thanks for bringing it up. ♦ BOHEMIAN ARCADE ♦ • Message me • My contributions 17:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey - join us at Talk:Hiragana#Colored_background if you have a minute to spare. It's about Romanization in the table. Regards Moooitic ( talk) 23:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Please do not use rollback in a content dispute to revert another user's good-faith edits. As you most likely know, rollback is only to revert obvious bad-faith changes. Thank you. – Juliancolton | Talk 20:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
You've copped a lot of insults, but I hope we're approaching an end to the wrangling with the anonymous user regarding Cantonese/Yue, etc.
In a narrow sense I think he has a point, i.e., there is such a thing as "Standard Cantonese" that is recognised by everyone, and Taishanese isn't recognised as "dialect" of Standard Cantonese by native speakers. That is, while Taishanese is seen by linguists as a variety of "Cantonese" (Yue) in the broader sense, is not regarded as a dialect of (Standard) "Cantonese" by people who speak those languages. I think that's an important insight.
Anyway, I hope we get to a satisfactory conclusion. I think that this editor has really highlighted how unsatisfactory it is to use "Cantonese" for "Yue Chinese" as a whole.
Bathrobe ( talk) 03:01, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
There's no need to avoid using phonemic transcriptions simply because they have not been immediately defined. If a user wanted to know what /a/ means in a certain language, they would research the language's phonology. It's alright to be flexible in terms of how things are defined; this is emphasized in the Handbook of the Internation Phonetic Association. There are a few things that are not as flexible, though. You can't use brackets if it is not meant to be a phonetic description. And as for English, /ɹ/ is almost certainly the most accurate way to describe the phoneme as [ɹ] is the most common pronunciation of the phoneme. DJ1AM ( talk) 03:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
This is kind of related to my earlier suggestion made elsewhere regarding the use of IPA at {{ Infobox Korean name}} (if you recall). I was wondering if there is some kind of template/category scheme for requesting that IPA be added to an article, e.g. in the same kind of way that {{ Needhangul}} adds a page to Category:Articles needing Korean script or text? PC78 ( talk) 23:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I see that you've reverted the change made by User:Jillzilla at 18:31 on 19 August 2009. Her/his edit summary said "Changed pronounciation of "york" to match what the speaker who made the recording said (as I found the page, the recording is of a UK speaker and the IPA is for a North American)."
Very few UK speakers (and even fewer who live in the York area, as I do) pronounce the r, whereas most North Americans would do so. Doesn't it make sense to have a British English pronunciation and matching IPA for an English city rather than a mixture of the two, or, indeed an all-US pronunciation/IPA rendition? (Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick here - I'm no expert on IPA). Best. -- Guillaume Tell 16:04, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Exquisitely wrong of course, and an odd assertion from someone who has never even been to the UK ;) -- Kudpung ( talk) 09:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)The weird thing is that in RP it really is /ˈwʊstər/, with a real /r/. You hear that if you put "is" after it. Well, in real RP, anyway. Maybe not in local Worcester dialect. So we might could say "locally /wʊstə/", but not "rp: /wʊstə/'
Hey Kwamikagami, I noticed that you were the one that semi-protected Template:IPA-nl so that's why I'm asking you for help. For usage in the Maastricht article I'm in need of a specific IPA template for "Southern Dutch" (=soft ‹g›/‹ch› pronunciation, as it is normally called) pronunciation (see --> Hard and soft G in Dutch). Whilst Flemish also uses this soft G and the pronunciation of Limburg may resemble it in some form, it does not really fall under that IPA template either. I've also included the "Northern Dutch" (i.e. hard ‹g›/‹ch›) pronunciation in the Maastricht article (especially since the .ogg file speaker uses this). I, however, don't know how to create IPA templates. Could you by any chance help me out? Thanks in advance for your time and help! Kind regards, LightPhoenix ( talk) 12:07, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, in response to your earlier question about co-parents-in-law in Korean (sadon), the male and female terms are actually different. [1]
Dictionaries list 査頓 for the Hanja, but one dictionary says that sadon is actually a native-Korean word. -- Kjoon lee 08:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hakka Malaysians. It appears that you accidentally posted the comment twice. You may want to undo the second comment. Cheers, Cnilep ( talk) 15:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, I was wondering why you undid my edits to Dysnomia (moon). The referenced source BrownandSchaller2007 clearly says: `circular orbit with radius 37350km` (not distance), and `mass of Eris` (not mass of the system). These are exactly the changes I made, which you undid. Any particular reason? Trewal ( talk) 19:50, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Can we please rename Category:Haumeids to Category:Haumea family members, or even get rid of it altogether since it's in the Haumea drop-down box? The latter is the terminology used in Haumea-related published papers, the former is a neologism. Iridia ( talk) 08:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kwami,
Could you please add the pronounciation (IPA) for the Batrachotomus article (Greek: batrachos/βάτραχος (frog) and tome/τομή (cutting, slicing). Thank you! Liopleurodon93 ( talk) 15:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Haumeids ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Iridia ( talk) 12:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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一年前你濫用管理員職權移動 Cantonese為你所喜好的標題 Yue Chinese,被絕多數否定。今天又重來,死性不改,這次remove,還不准別人undo。作為母語為粵語的人,跟其他粵語母語者一樣,我們絕對不能接受粵語英文名改為荒唐的“Yue Chinese”。強烈譴責你固執、不當的行為!-- Newzebras ( talk) 04:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Thanks for participating in wikipedia. Your contributions are encouraged. However, recently you reverted some of my cited edits. I have provided valid citations for each of the following edits. If you cannot provide valid citations then your edits are not valid. Removing edits containing valid citations is considered vandalism. I will be reverting your changes. Please provide some counter citations to assert your edits, or open a discussion on the respective talk pages before reverting further. In each of the cases, you did not provide any citation nor reference to back up your edits. Regardless of your personal emotions with "territories", they are clearly NOT countries and you cannot make such edits without references. Thanks. // Mark Renier ( talk) 08:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
With so much opposition to your recent move perhaps it would be best for you to stop making all of these changes in all articles that mention "Cantonese" to suit your recent move. Clearly not all editors who have edited those pages are wrong, and now must suddenly conform to this standard that you have imposed. Kindly wait until we can reach some kind of community consensus on this issue, please. Colipon+( Talk) 22:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Recently, after a non-involved administrator moved the article to "Cantonese (linguistics)", you decided to move the article back to the name that you had imposed earlier. Again, as an administrator involved in this dispute, it would be proper to seek consensus before making such moves. Until now you have moved the page three times to "Yue Chinese", and you have not gone through the proper procedures to seek consensus in each of those cases. In the absence of a community consensus, and especially in light of the massive opposition that the move to "Yue Chinese" has now gathered, I respectfully ask that the page be moved back to "Cantonese" or "Cantonese (linguistics)" as soon as possible, and then discussion can continue there. I am hopeful that we can seek a solution on this issue together. Thanks! Colipon+( Talk) 23:07, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
You might be interested in the change I made to {{ LangWithName}} (the core for many language templates such as {{ zh-stp}}); it's described at Template talk:LangWithName#Delinking. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 03:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The more I look, the more I feel the mess at Category:Chinese multilingual support templates is out of control. There seems to be a lot of redundancy with all these templates...redundancy in of itself isn't bad, but it causes problems when one template is updated (like I recently did), since there are like a hundred others that need to be updated as well, and it can't necessarily be done with AWB.
So, to that end, I just created
User:Rjanag/zh, a template that I believe has the functionality of all of these templates. The only difference is that you have to use named parameters, not numbered...but I think most of these template calls used named parameters anyway (ie, {{
zh-cp|c=某|p=something}}
, rather than {{
zh-cp|某|something}}
). When making it, I was careful to make sure that I didn't lose any of the functionalities contained in any of the other templates. Ideally, this template could be moved to {{
zh}}
and then all articles could just use that one, and display the relevant Chinese and romanizations based on what templates are used (for example, some would use {{
zh|c=something|p=something|l=something}}
, while others might use {{
zh|s=something|t=something|p=something}}
, the difference being that the second one gives both simplified and traditional). Currently, though, {{
zh}} is a redirect to {{
zh icon}} and a lot of pages seem to use it; it might be used in other ways, too, because its WhatLinksHere says it's included in some random pages (for instance,
Quiznos) but I can't find it in the wikitext, suggesting that it's a transclusion within a transclusion....
Anyway, I'm thinking that if it's possible some day for me to go through and manually replace the {{zh}}s with {{zh icon}}s, then I can move this new template to there and slowly start replacing specific templates (like {{zh-cp}}) with this one, in all the articles where they're used. Do you have any thoughts on this? rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 06:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
{{
zh-s}}
(after usurping that...or I could just give it a new name), do that for everything, and then make {{
zh}}
itself be nothing more than a shell template that has a big #switch statement deciding which thing to show and when. It sounds like something I can play around with in my userspace for a while...these things always seem to work out better in my head than they do in actual code!{{
zh}}
template left more or less as-is to be used in most cases (where people aren't concerned about ordering and the current version is sufficient), and something new, like {{
zh-full}}
or something, which would have extended functionality but also more parameters and more complicated syntax.
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15:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)The people behind Jyutping are just pushy (off Wiki I mean); it has flaws, especially for an English speaking audience, especially the j for [j] and c for [tʃ] thing. Is it not possible to have the ordering flexible, as in, that if you move one above the other manually, they display that way? I must confess to a high degree of ignorance regarding templates. Akerbeltz ( talk) 18:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
{{zh | ....... | first=t}}
, and many of the simplified-first with just {{zh}}
(but I haven't done all of them...there are still several thousand more, so rather than trying to do them by hand I'm starting to fiddle with bot stuff). So things that already have first=t won't be changed if I update the template, but things that don't (i.e., any articles about mainland China stuff) will be changed, unless a simple way can be found to go and insert first=s into all of them.
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00:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Hi. When you edited Ycatapom Peak you make a syntax error that broke the infobox. I fixed it and it was no big thing. I noticed you used AWB. I know that it is easy to save articles in AWD without checking the results. I've learned the hard way by making the same kind of little mistake and then not catching it by viewing the results. Just a heads up. – droll [chat] 19:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Kwamikagami. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 03:01, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry if creating this tab is inappropriate, I am somewhat unfamiliar with editing ettiquette, as will become apparent shortly. You recently reverted every revision I made this summer, including cited links, and I would like to inquire why? I see now that certain elements of my edits (I am the later (or possibly both) 41.xxx IPs (from Egypt) on the Middle Bronze Age Alphabets article) I created an account thereafter). I realize that some elements of my postings may have been either controversial or perhaps bordering on personal research.
However, I would like to point out that what I added added the first actual citations to various sections as well as new analysis to already present substantive evidence. I am curious what qualifications you have to judge and remove cited material while leaving uncited material unscathed; could you please provide a rationale? Particularly for the inclusion of Arabic letters to the table, I was mostly citing Wiki's pages on letters... which trace the 'etymology' of letters across Semitic languages including Arabic. Why is the presence of Arabic on the chart detrimental? Additionally how has Colless's material been accepted as anything beyond the opinion of one man, with a huge polemical bias and a questionable set of credentials, working out of New Zealand? (Particularly since his blog and his postings on the internet have broadly been criticized (along with everything else) as not reflecting an academic consensus...)
I am truly at a loss, I have only recently begun contributing, generally on obscure personal interests, and I assumed that this article would profit not only from citations but also from alternative analysis to essentially speculative issues. You will note that one of the maybe 2 or 3 actually published articles on the Wadi el-Hol scripts is not present, only Colless's reconstruction is present, though the literature he has published is solely on the Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions and not on Wadi el-Hol?
Assuming there is no reasonable explanation of the distinction in verifiability issues, shouldn't all of this material also be removed? Thank you in advance. Msheflin ( talk) 21:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey, as a semi-related issue. I was looking through the Table on the discussion page (with the Ugaritic) and I noticed that in Ugaritic, the dhayp (I don't have that character handy) character is called dhal in Ugaritic. I am not particularly familiar with the Greek system of writing and I'm wondering if that's where the name dhayp comes from? Like... two things, first of all, the idea that ziqq replaced dhayp I think is an uncited Colless addition. But regardless, where does that name come from, because I would have to assume the Ugaritic name would be earlier, and thus the Arabic and Ugaritic characters would be named and pronounced the same, separated only by a huge gap in time - suggesting continuity rather than replacement as stands now. The Ugaritic character is cited on the Ugaritic page I believe. So where did we come up with the other name? Michael Sheflin 01:55, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Yea... That's why someone pointed out a while back on the other discussion that taking letter names from modern iterations may be misleading. However, I have never heard that name before and on the table, it is not listed as belonging to a particular language/alphabet. So if Ugarit has any attestation, it would imply that the earlier name was dhal (and that the only remaining/known extant names are also dhal). Michael Sheflin ( talk) 19:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Dude... I understand that my 'citations needed' were excessive, and if you notice, they all followed a questionable assertion, like southern Egypt was "in the heart of literate Egypt." I think that deserves another citation than the preceding clause, "very similar to the Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions." Two questionable (but supportable) assumptions, need two citations in my humble opinion. Why did you revert my links to the meaning of b3l? If it was another does of bulk perversion, could you please return those citation?
You are once again reverting citations... I realize you questioned Tower of Babel's credentials, but its founder, Stratosin or whatever his name is is dead, and it is partnered with the following academic institutions:
The Russian State University of the Humanities (Center of Comparative Linguistics) The Moscow Jewish University The Russian Academy of Sciences (Dept. of History and Philology) The Santa Fe Institute (New Mexico, USA) The City University of Hong Kong The Leiden University
Institutions, not individuals, to me that suggests greater reliability. (Michael Sheflin on friend's laptop) 41.196.211.23 ( talk) 22:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
You don't understand what synthesis and original research are. Which is amazing because you've done this so long and are notably and deservedly decorated as such. I explained, in a previous post on the MBAA discussion what synthesis is. OR is research I have done. Starotsin has nothing to do with this site; it is the largest Semitic etymology database on the web. This database (in contrast to the uncited assertion that ba'lat means lady (in byblos it did, by the way ba'lat gebel meant the lady of Byblos). Ba'lat was a goddess, so her name is a proper noun too... (not OR, why not read Wikipedia?). Additionally, the taa suffix in virtually every Semitic language is linguistically related to the feminization of the word (in hebrew it is hah (and in some dialects of arabic it is as well)). In current arabic, it is called taa marbuta (final taa) but often pronounced as +eh and sometimes takes the form of taa. This would be like removing a citation, as OR, from a French article claiming that personne is the feminization of person (by claiming that person is attested, and that editors qualified in grammar will realize it is inappropriate, therefore, to remove that citation.
I included the conjugation issue, because again, in most or possibly all known Semitic languages, taa often serves as a conjugation of the verb either for 3rd person singular feminine, first person, or second person. That's not OR, this is a misunderstanding, but I really don't appreciate it. This is also what I meant by hijacking, you are taking too much editorial power without fully appreciating what you are doing. About the citations, I guess I understand your point, but my point is that many of these assertions will be (based on my research (that I am not including...)) not verifiable because they are not correct. Rather than removing things, I thought it would be more appropriate to call attention to them. Please either justify your removals or revert my changes. (MS on friend's laptop) 41.196.211.23 ( talk) 23:05, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Kwami, I've prepared a bot to finish up the {{zh}}-related work, and filed a request for approval at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ZhBot. If you have a moment I would appreciate your input (and an extra set of eyes to make sure everything looks ok!). Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 17:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I've just noticed in this edit in May you asserted that /ˈlɪə/ is the pronunciation of "Lear" not "Leah". To my mind, both are pronounced identically (assuming a silent "r"), and my dictionary agrees (Collins Concise Dictionary, 4th ed, 1999, ISBN 0 00 472257 4). Another editor has just deleted the pronunciation altogether. What do you think the difference is? -- Dr Greg talk 12:28, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
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That whole article is lacking inline citations and there is significant dispute about all points and assertions. The only way to get a start on that is look at each citation needed tag and determine if a citation exists. If so, put it in, if not remove the assertion. The number of such tags reflects the quality of the article's references. Nerdseeksblonde ( talk) 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
I think it's kind of only fair that if you think it is excessive to include more than 1 cite-needed thing per sentence (with more than one assertion) please break the assertions up into individual sentences and put my tags back in at a rate of 1 per sentence. Otherwise, I think what I did was really fair. One x-needed per each claim (at a rate of more-than-one claim/assertion per sentence). This is a chief reason the article is so questionable in general... (Michael Sheflin on friend's laptop) 41.196.211.23 ( talk) 22:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
You've now reverted everything. Again, why did you remove cited material of relevance to the article?
You see? I haven't really touched your changes, but you keep reverting ALL of mine, as if it were personal; and including cited material of relevance to academic literature that (I shouldn't have to say this) is not MY OPINION. How do you not see the asymmetry here, and how do we start some form of protection so that you aren't the only one editing this article? (MS) 41.196.211.23 ( talk) 23:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Should we put then /kɒskiˈʊʃkoʊ, kɒskiˈɒskoʊ/ for Brooklyn and /kɒziˈɛskoʊ/ for Mississippi? What about the secondary stress on the first syllable? Regards.-- Carnby ( talk) 09:40, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, thanks, that'll make this less tedious. Typing all the <small> tags was annoying. -- Cybercobra (talk) 02:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey kwami,
I was about to get on AWB and start replacing, for example, tɕ with ʨ...in the process I was also going to replace t͡ɕ with the single-graph version. But then I noticed in the IPA article here that apparently the single versions are no longer standard? If that is the case, should I be replacing everything with the tie-bar versions, rather than vice versa? (I was a bit surprised, because in a recent job of mine, where I was transcribing Monguor texts and converting things from practical orthography to IPA, I was always told to represent single phones with single characters wherever possible, and thus I always used the ʨ/ʦ/ʥ/etc.) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 21:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Please explain why you remove this edit. It is well documented in multiple well regarded online articles, including a reference to one of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikev ( talk • contribs) 21:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
That is your opinion. It is documented that this is trademarked. Do you think is is reasonable to undo my comments on the talk page? Erikev ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:59, 6 October 2009 (UTC).
Wait: the talk page has centered on copyright, and that's what I was going on. If it's trademarked, that info will be available online. Let me take a look to see if I can find it. Or maybe you can? kwami ( talk) 22:10, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
No, nothing registered in Canada or the US, and no claim to trademark that I can see on her website. kwami ( talk) 22:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I think I've now eliminated (at least from article space) all instances where Template:IPA-pl was being used with the multiple pipes in the style of {{ IPAr}}. So if you want to change IPA-pl to make it behave the same way as the other IPA-xxx templates (or redirect it to IPA-pol? I don't remember what the plan was) then it ought to be possible now.-- Kotniski ( talk) 07:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
By the way, there may be a problem with the square brackets on IPA-pl - the old version didn't add brackets, whereas I suppose the current version will be adding them, to be consistent with the other IPA-xx templates. So there may be articles which transclude this template but include brackets, thus leading to double brackets.-- Kotniski ( talk) 09:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Use it, or don't. What's up there is not correct. It means the tail or rump, not the sheep. Michael Sheflin ( talk) 09:36, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, you're better on African languages than I am - I think this page needs a quick check. Akerbeltz ( talk) 22:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Is drawn. ÷ seresin 05:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I have restored the category Category:Cantonese (linguistics) as I couldn't find a discussion about its deletion. If it needs to be deleted or renamed then it should be listed up at WP:CfD. Thanks. Tassedethe ( talk) 08:06, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Do you think you could remove the small "Hungarian pronunciation: " from the start of Template:IPAc-hu? This would make it consistent with the Polish one, and with the Japanese and English ones I started in the same series. I've checked all the article space transclusions and none of them require these extra words (except for one which I've reworded accordingly).-- Kotniski ( talk) 09:37, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I think the final vowel in Bowie is not long: the pronunciation found in this page was an IPA transcription of this one. There's also an audio file here (an American speaker) where the final vowel seems to be /i/. Cheers-- Carnby ( talk) 02:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello, i'm looking for informations about this image : File:Uranian system schematic.jpg. I know it's old, but do you remember where you got this image ? (like nasa's website or something), just to add a better source to the description on Commons. Thanks ! -- Lilyu ( talk) 04:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Are any references available for the things you wrote in Modern_evolution_of_Esperanto? Rikat ( talk) 23:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, would you consider part protecting this page for a few day? There's a couple of ppl pushing a weirder than usual "greater basque country" pov on that page and it's beginning to take up considerable amounts of my time policing it. Akerbeltz ( talk) 00:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if you noticed, but I've undone your attempt to add Occitan to the IPA pronunciation key for Catalan. I haven't gone through and fixed pages that use {{ IPA-ca}} for Occitan pronunciation since I thought you might want to create an WP:IPA for Occitan and {{ IPA-oc}}. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 06:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, I have the following problems with the edits and unfortunately very little time to follow you:
1-A few scholars have bothered....,and then a contradiction follows:3 scholars opinions are stated.”A few scholars heve bothered...” is insulting for a biography.You may decide rewording it.”Some scholars have strongly contested” or something like that should be read.
2-De Hoz critics are only for one book :the first one “El origen de los Vascos” (Origin of the Basques).This was done in 1999.This should be stated for a biography.Critics do not apply to all other books published later
http://books.google.com/books?q=Arnaiz-Villena&btnG=Buscar+libros&hl=es
3-The apparent Pichler critics come from an unreliable publication.Has he written these critics?This should have been removed according to Vandenberg mediation
4-Dumu Eduba is too repetitive:it needs to be stated that Lakarra only studied 32 words out of thousands and from this cannot be inferred that 85% of the linguistics work is wrong.You may decide to rewrite this and synthesize what Dumu Eduba wants to add.
Please let me know your opinion. Best regards -- Virginal6 ( talk) 21:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
[3] ÷ seresin 23:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
If you check the Epirus (region) page this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EpirusEduMap.jpg is clearly original research and clearly Greek POV. I put an original tag on it and it gets removed. A user claims it comes from all of these sources, but this is still original research to read several sources and create a map from them. As well, other sources from linguistics or anthropology do not come up with these same conclusions. Azalea pomp ( talk) 22:15, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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I'm very sorry about that. My to {{ IPA-hu}} dropped a closing bracket. I fixed it and tested the result on the lead to Béla Bartók. Eubulides ( talk) 20:02, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I've sent you an e-mail, if you reply to me I can pass along the Langdon paper for the AAH. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 12:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Hey there, for ever ago you mentioned that the OED has a citation where the h of ch, sh, th is described as effectively being an "in-line diacritic". Could you please refer me to a concrete example of this usage? Thanks, Dan ☺ 18:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I have seen them described as such but I can't for the life of me remember where. Akerbeltz ( talk) 21:08, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Given how oddly the IAU has handled dwarf planet inclusion and exclusion over the last three years, I would rather wait until an official pronouncement before I start rewriting candidate pages. Serendi pod ous 21:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I might not've paid attention to your recent changes of the single- guillemets to the angle brackets, but this discussion has me thinking about what basis our policy of using them to mark off orthographic items is. If we don't have a stated policy on it, we ought to make sure our choice is accurate before we construct one and encourage other editors to do the same. A search of the specific angle brackets included turned up the article Bracket, which says:
Chevrons are part of standard Chinese, and Korean punctuation, where they generally enclose the titles of books: ︿ and ﹀ or ︽ and ︾ for traditional vertical printing, and 〈 and 〉 or 《 and 》 for horizontal printing.
Which makes me think that the guillemets are actually correct. What led you to believe it was 〈 and 〉?— Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 05:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I see that you moved "Belizean Kriol language" to "Belizean Creole". "Creole" is fine to me but I think that we should keep the "language" in the article name. Frst, "Creole language" may sound redundant to linguists, but outside linguistics "Creole" often also means a ethnic group, so the title as it is now is ambiguous. Also the "creole" of linguists is a generic term and should be lower case, whereas here it is part of the language name. In fact, the name almost certainly meant in origin "the language spoken by the Creole people of Belize" rather that "the creole language of Belize". Finally, even though the language is almost always called just "Belizean Creole", its is general practice in WP to append "language" to the name of languages. Compare " English language", " Greek language", etc. What do you think? All the best, -- Jorge Stolfi ( talk) 15:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, you may remember me asking for some broad feedback on the Erromintxela article some time ago. I did eventually nominate it for GA and - much to my surprise and please - was passed on most things (including the wordlists) straight away. The main outstanding criticism centres around the lead and some stylistic issues. As writing style is definitely one of my weaker points, I was wondering if you'd be interested in helping me sort out the article? With all those featured articles under your belt, you probably have a much better graps on what might need changing - I'd be much obliged. Akerbeltz ( talk) 18:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Here is an archive search box for your talk page. You can modify it and place it according to your preferences.
Dabomb87 ( talk) 22:46, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
I noticed that you reverted my addition of Gwahatike (also called Dahating) to the list of language isolates and removed the statement that Gwahatike is a language isolate from its article. Do you have any sources stating that Gwahatike is not a language isolate? I added the information that it is a language isolate because of this issue of Pacific Linguistics which states that "The Dahating... is a language isolate spoken in a number of villages sout of Saidor." Is there a reason that you do not trust this source?
Neelix ( talk) 16:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kwami. You seem to be active on the Language family article. I was wondering if you know who made the new language families map? I would like to use the map with proper attrib, but can't figure out who the contributor is. Thanks a bunch! - Chinmay7 ( talk) 04:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Take it there. Josh Parris 11:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
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FYI: the page
User:Ohms_law/Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116, an article which you contributed to, has recently been userfied. I planned on changing it to an article more generally about the Swedish Naming Laws eventually, so and assistance you can give in this respect would be more than welcome. Thanks!
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Yes, it looks like there is a difference in the way the API returns inward links compared with the way whatlinkshere does, which something else had made me suspect. I will file an AWB bug once I remember what the other piece of evidence was. As far as the un-ref goes it is better to have an external link (or better references) section as at " Tetete lanaguage", I will look into automatically adding this. One of the reasons for getting rid of the "Erik9bot" category and replacing it with a tag was visibility, so that the (relatively few) which are wrong can be quickly fixed, unfortunately the same "tags are evil" group that made the cat-not-tag the initial approach also argued against visible tags on stubs - community consensus can change this at any point of course now the tags are in place, we can make them visible for certain topics for example, should we desire. Also it wuld be possible to create "unreffed XXX articles/stubs" categories where that is considered helpful by a project/group/editor. Rich Farmbrough, 18:51, 17 December 2009 (UTC).
Hi! It looks to be quite certain that Na'vi will soon have a following of people that want to learn the language so I created a Facebook group for it yesterday. I also added a note that you're probably one of the best people online to contact about the language, since without a published grammar all we have is the dialogue from the movie and interviews with the creator from which to figure it out, and you seem to be doing the most legwork in that area.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=240828625238
Mithridates ( talk) 16:53, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Great, I put up a link there showing the changes over the past day. BTW, do you have a Facebook ID as well? Or are you the person that added a comment a few hours ago on the possessive suffix? Mithridates ( talk) 12:40, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Why have you removed my addition, when according to your page you have never resided in the UK? this is the English Language edition and it is a [Colloquialism|colloquial] term used in the UK. 80.101.231.27 ( talk) 14:52, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it is. To say that Scouse isn't a name for Liverpudlian is just as encyclopedic, it is not trivia - which I agree is not encyclopedic. 80.101.231.27 ( talk) 15:13, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
This is the English Language Wikipedia and it is an English term - if you want to remove colloquialism you will be editing 100,000.00 of pages. If those edits can stay so can mine. Check out the English pages on Liverpudlian redirected to Liverpool and Scouse. In this English Wikipedia we have thousands of pages dedicated to colloquialism, so you have made the decision that these are no longer valid? Riveira2 ( talk) 15:30, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Do you know of languages that have a minimal pair for a/ɑ other than southern American English time/Tom?-- Curtis Clark ( talk) 22:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Characters and wildlife in Avatar is now sent to AFD. This message is being sent to everyone who worked on it, who isn't already there. Dream Focus 19:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Noting your change of the article's title to Heiltsuk dialect, and I suppose with Oowekyala there was no need for a name change because that title is the name of that dialect, on the one hand "Heiltsuk language" is the most common use; but if the "dialect" paradigm is the way things are gonna be, then the same should apply to Saanich language, Klallam language, Lummi language etc which are the subdialects of North Straits Salish....there's a few other examples like this in the general region - Kaska, Tahtlan and Nahanni I believe, and some others I can't recall just now....also there's Sinixt language which SFAIK is a dialect of Okanagan (or is it Colville, or are all three "cousin" dialects of an unnamed language, which maybe includes Sanpoil?). Skookum1 ( talk) 15:33, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
kwami, there's a guy edit warring at Middle East. I changed the relationship of Turkish to Turkic from "Altaic" and noted that Altaic is not a widely accepted term. He keeps reverting back to Altaic even though he's not a linguist and doesn't know what he's talking about. I need some support there. ( Taivo ( talk) 20:17, 26 December 2009 (UTC))
I have nominated Na'vi language, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Na'vi language. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. > RUL3R> trolling> vandalism 10:58, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Kwami, a nationalist has moved Northern Cyprus to Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus against consensus. This has happened before with nationalist editors. I can't move it back this time for some reason (sometimes I can and sometimes I can't). Could you move it back? The idiot left the talk page at Northern Cyprus even. Thanks. Hope your holidays have been great. ( Taivo ( talk) 15:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC))
It seems everywhere I turn lately, I come across another article that you have worked very hard on and have greatly improved. Since I don't feel I have the authority to award you a barnstar (and since you seem to have so many already), I figured I'd just leave a note on your talk page (which, incidentally, is quite a mess at this point in time). So thank you very much for your hard work and dedication to improving the linguistics section of Wikipedia. (As an aside: do you have an Internet existence outside of Wikipedia that I may be interested in knowing about? Thanks again.) — Gordon P. Hemsley→ ✉ 16:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I have been watching Aquatic ape hypothesis for some time and am irritated by the conflation of AAH with pseudoscience. Accordingly, I have no problem with your most recent , but I suggest that it should be self-reverted because the article is protected and an edit under that condition may cause trouble. Johnuniq ( talk) 03:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for helping clean up some of the mess that is the Hardest language article. If you didn't notice yet, I left a proposal ( Talk:Hardest language#Time to think about moving?) to try and redefine the scope and purpose of the article so there might be some hope of cleaning it up. I also recently came this 1999 Foreign Language Education article which might have some useful information (or at least be a helpful starting point) for rewriting some of the article, if you're interested. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 01:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Gidday kwami, how's things? As a one-time major contributor, you maybe interested in the AfD that has been raised for this, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of languages by number of native speakers according to two websites...cheers, -- cjllw ʘ TALK 22:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Kwamikagami: I put "according to whom?" and "which?" notes on your two most recent edits to the "trial" section of the "grammatical number" article. I didn't undo them, I only asked for specificity and for a cited reference. I undid your most recent edit to the "quadral" section, because the only reference given directly contradicts what you said. I thought of several reasons for this; among them, (1) maybe the reference (a particular edition of Corbett's book) is out-of-date (2) maybe Corbett's book only talks about one of those languages and the information you give is about a different one. I hope you can tell I'm not trying to start an "edit war"; I just want the facts you know to be backed up, and not to erase the "facts" I know unless they're not "facts" after all. Read [7] pp 21 ff, section 2.2.3, for a list of languages that have trial. The book says Larike has trial only in its pronouns, but it doesn't say about any of the other languages that they don't have it in their nouns. It shows several languages having their trial become a paucal, and one having its paucal become a trial. Read [8] pp. 26 ff, section 2.2.5, about quadrals, and about Sursurunga, Tangga, Lihir, and Marshallese. I haven't found a reference that states clearly that some language does have trial in its nouns; but neither have a found one that states none of them do. Thanks -- Eldin raigmore ( talk) 17:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Maybe you should create a template for edits like this? -- Amir E. Aharoni ( talk) 21:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
I notice that you have contributed to List of shibboleths; i have made a [ suggestion] on the talk page that you might be interested in commenting on. If that article no longer holds your interest, i apologise for intruding, and return you to previously scheduled programming. Cheers, Lindsay Hi 08:42, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that you reverted my edit on Na'vi language, suggesting that it scrambled typefaces. But isn't that exactly what your revert did: scramble typefaces?
If I have something that I'd like to emphasize, by using italics, bold text, colored text or something else, I typically don't want to emphasize commas and periods as well – the only exception being when the punctuation marks in question are part of that logical element of text that I want to emphasize.
For instance, suppose that I want to emphasize “A” and “C” in the text “There is A, B, and C.” I would have to do it like this (I'm using color here instead of italics or bold text to exaggerate): “There is A, B, and C.” Note that the colored text does include neither comma nor period. This is how your edit would make it look: “There is A, B, and C.” Highlighting comma and period like this, neither of which are part of the logical element of text that I want to emphasize, looks completely unacceptable: notice in particular how the comma that follows “A” looks different from the one that follows “B”.
Maybe I am mistaken, and there is in fact a policy on Wikipedia that states exactly this (in which case I would appreciate you directing me to it), but in my opinion we should remove punctuation marks from emphasized words on the Na'vi language article; there are exceptions to this (obviously where punctuation marks are part of the emphasized text element) but I think that I didn't touch any of these with my first edit. Sebastian… talk 10:45, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
The weird thing is that in RP it really is /ˈwʊstər/, with a real /r/. You hear that if you put "is" after it. Well, in real RP, anyway. Maybe not in local Worcester dialect. So we might could say "locally /wʊstə/", but not "rp: /wʊstə/".
I'm sorry Kwami, but I can't let this go, but I'm not going to respond on that talk page. Your are quite wrong. It's totally the opposite. I come from five miles outside Worcester. Malvern is one of the towns in the the UK with the most marked use of RP almost to the extent that RP is its local accent, and an awfully rather posh one at that, so snobs with posh accents like ours certainly know how Worcester is pronounced by the masses. Neither of the 'r' s in Worcester are pronounced by the educated majority. However, if you go to work wearing a pitchfork, you most probably will roll them all!. --
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Hola,
On the AAH talk page we were discussing the Molken ( Moken?) as evidence of a human aquatic adaptation. I was farting about on underwater vision and found this article suggesting their abilities may be due to training rather than evolution. Thought you'd be interested. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 15:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, there's an IP edit warrior at Aramaic language. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks. ( Taivo ( talk) 22:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC))
I can find references to Korean language being Altaic in general, and rarely a language isolate. Can you put in some citations for the Language Isolate theory. :) -- Objectiveye ( talk) 04:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The weird thing is that in RP it really is /ˈwʊstər/, with a real /r/. You hear that if you put "is" after it. Well, in real RP, anyway. Maybe not in local Worcester dialect. So we might could say "locally /wʊstə/", but not "rp: /wʊstə/
I realise that you dare a linguist of some standing and that you have shared your extensive knowledge with WP, but with the above comment you wonderfully wrong of course, it is exactly the opposite of what you are saying - and what the heck is real RP? I come from just six miles outside Worcester. Malvern is one of the towns in the the UK with the most marked use of RP, almost to the extent of it being its local accent, and an awfully rather posher one than the 'southern' or Home Counties RP that some liguists mistakenly claim to be 'standard' British English. You must not forget that "It is the business of educated people to speak so that no-one may be able to tell in what county their childhood was passed."(A. Burrell: A Handbook for Teachers in Public Elementary Schools). Malvern is a Mecca of some of the most elite of British boarding schools; it is a place a where daily clothing is by default, Burberry, green welly boots or Veldtshoen, and thick wooly stockings. People carry hockey sticks, lacross sticks, or shooting sticks everywhere, and drive their kids to school and go to the mall in Landrovers with permanently attached empty horseboxes (I often feel that Malvern and its mansions, manors, and manners should have been the model for Midsomer Murders). You go into a pub's lounge bar and nearly everyone standing at the counter is a 'Sir' somebody or other with an accent to match, but wearing worn out tweeds and looking as if they've just come in from planting potatoes. Neither of the 'r' s in Worcester are pronounced by the educated majority. However, if like some of the few, you use the other room in the pub (the one with the dartboard and pool table), or go to work wearing a pitchfork, you most probably will roll them all. And roll around in draught cider (with a rhotic final 'r') too!
On British accents, probably the best authority is Peter Trudgill with whom I've had the greatest honour of working in the past, but no one seems to mention him . He's worth reading. As you have never been to the UK it might help fill the gaps ;) -- Kudpung ( talk) 08:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Quite impressive work down there on Na'vi language. One month and so many details. Nice work. -- TudorTulok ( talk) 14:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, this is contradictory to the Wikipedia assertion that mute letters should be shown as pronounced phonems in the IPA transcription.:
It is not expected that speakers of any one dialect will pronounce a word or name exactly as we transcribe it; rather, by using this key, they should understand how to pronounce it in their own dialect. In order to show how individuals pronounce their name in their dialect, or how inhabitants pronounce a place name in the local dialect,
And your section on Narrow versus broad transcription is unsourced and therefore possible inviting suggestions that it might be considered by some to be OR and/or POV :)-- Kudpung ( talk) 03:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
There is currently a second proposal for the Closure of Sango Wikipedia. You are encouraged to voice your opinion regarding this matter. -- 202.36.179.66 ( talk) 04:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hardest_language
Tell me the reason why you removed Japanese from the list. It is true that some scholars regard the Japanese language as a language isolate. The Japanese Wikipedia contains both theories that the Japanese is isolated and that the Japanese belongs to the Japonic family. Your edit does not make any sense to me.-- Je suis tres fatigue ( talk) 09:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I thought I'd let you know as well - http://masempul.org/upxare-niinglisi/ it's a new message from Paul Frommer that just came out a few minutes ago. Mithridates ( talk) 20:41, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
It's perfectly linear and perfectly abjadic.
The substance is content-related both to the symbol depicted above the vertical inscription, and with the other 50+ inscriptions in Egyptian on that rock, some of which refer to Hathor-worship and one of which refers (in Eg.) to the Maiden of Byblos.
This appears to be linking Athtar (Ishtar) with Hathor as Ba'alat was in Serabit al-Khadem. However, this language is Ugaritic not Canaanite and is influenced semantically by Akkadian.
The paper I'm working on clarifies why there are apparent paleographic shifts particularly with the affrications that occurred from Northwest Semitic to Canaanite and later Phoenician. The other support (like D_ and Z. come from Ugaritic voicing peculiarities, in addition to the already clear paleographic similarities between (particularly) Thamudic D_ and Wadi D_)
What do you think? Michael Sheflin ( talk) 08:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I have responded to both your comments at WT:MAMMAL and those at WT:RODENT. — innotata ( Talk • Contribs) 23:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
This edit was not an acceptable use of the rollback tool (see Wikipedia:Rollback feature). Please be more careful with its use in the future. Thanks, Ucucha 00:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed your edit on Awngi. It is true that Hetzron in 1969 still had evidence for the phoneme /æ/, but now it appears that the sound has left the system. Joswig (2006) in footnote 2 writes: "They (Hetzron and Palmer; LL) both mentioned a seventh vowel /æ/, but this has now entirely merged phonetically with /e/. There is still a phone [æ], but this is a conditioned variant of /e/, appearing after uvular consonants." There is no evidence nowadays that there is such a sound as a variant of /a/ in Awngi. Maybe based on that you want to reconsider your edit. Landroving Linguist ( talk) 09:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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You know, I don't recall ever bumping into you on the site before getting into the Na'vi business, yet it appears we joined the site one day apart back in 2004. Funny coincidences like that always make me chuckle. Oh well, just a random observation. Have a good day! — Huntster ( t @ c) 11:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
By the way, thank you for being a voice of common sense over at Talk:Na'vi language. I can barely look at that hatnote discussion without my blood boiling at the bureaucratic nonsense. I begin to understand why some critics suggest that wiki is not long for this world. — Huntster ( t @ c) 23:41, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I converted the respelling pronunciations directly from the IPA and I've gotten fairly good at it, so if I was wrong then it's probable the IPA is wrong. Could you please explain how the pronunciations were wrong? -- Cybercobra (talk) 11:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I just undid an edit you made to the Wednesday article on 6 June 2009. In that edit, you added a third syllable to the pronunciation of the word when the first "d" is pronounced: you changed /wɛdnzdeɪ/ to /wɛdənzdeɪ/ and /wɛdnzdi/ to /wɛdənzdi/. In my over 60 years speaking and hearing the English language, I don't believe I have ever heard anyone in any part of the world pronounce Wednesday with three distinct syllables, which your transcriptions (with the "ə" between the first "d" and the "n") give it. I also never have seen such a pronunciation documented in any dictionary.
You seem to have much experience with phonetics, but I believe you are mistaken in this instance. If you can document the three-syllable pronunciation, please do so. But in that case you should add those unusual pronunciations instead of replacing the very well-attested two-syllable /wɛdnzdeɪ/ and /wɛdnzdi/ with them, as you did in June.
If I am mistaken in attributing that edit to you, or if some intervening edit I overlooked is responsible, please forgive me and let me know of my error here, with a talkback note to my talk page. Nevertheless, I stand by the change I made to the Wednesday article.
Thanks.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 17:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
As you seem to be involved in WP:RESPELL, would you mind translating Yulia Tymoshenko's IPA into it? Is there a procedure to request such respellings? By the way, I googled without success. It's on forvo but the audio file is muffled. Revelian ( talk) 19:52, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Per your tag on Moses as symbol in American history, the tag states "Please see the discussion on the talk page." Normally, the tag is added after there has been some statement on the article's talk page so that others will know the issues and can comment. I'll remove the tag pending your written dispute, after which time you can put it back. BTW, all of your comments on the TC talk page were your own OR. If you're going to dispute any quotes or writings by cited authors, especially scholarly ones, you'll need to back up your opinions with other than personal comments. -- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 08:45, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
You need to read Wikipedia:Block#Conflicts of interest. You don't block someone for 3RR when they're edit warring with you. You also don't block them for comments they've made when those comments were directed at you. Lack of objectivity, you see. You should also avoid insinuating a user is a repeat offender because you've failed to thoroughly read their block log, particularly if you're going to claim personal attacks and harassment, both of which make you look like a hypocrite. Lara 21:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Hola, note and note. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 19:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi there. I notice you semi-protected indefinitely Wikipedia:IPA for English. I would like to ask you to reconsider, or anyway to give the article another try, since I don't think the disruption (which as you say was anyway generally in good faith) was so frequent or annoying to warrant an indefinite protection. By the way, unless I'm missing something, this is not a template.
Also, I would like to link the IPA symbols to the respective phoneme articles like I have done for Wikipedia:IPA for French and Wikipedia:IPA for Mandarin. I think doing this is quite useful, because those articles normally contain a sound clip to illustrate pronunciation. I'd be interested to know what you think about the idea. Thank you. 122.25.253.166 ( talk) 09:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Don't know what you're referring to exactly. The pronunciation on Wikipedia is correct as far as I can tell. -- Cybercobra (talk) 10:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, hope all is well with you and yours. When you get a couple of minutes, the page Boa Sr needs to be moved to Boa Sr.. There is definitely a period at the end of Sr in her name according to the linguist working on her language. Thanks. ( Taivo ( talk) 14:44, 23 February 2010 (UTC))
Hi Kwami - am I to understand that word-final /r/ is included in UK placenames because (among other reasons) RP possesses linking R? I had thought, at first, that it was only because WP:IPAEN is pan-dialectal (which I agree with). Do we have any sources that transcribe word-final /r/ specifically for RP? Lfh ( talk) 09:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami. You recently changed the balun IPA from /ˈbæl.ʌn/ to /ˈbælən/. Why the change? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't understand it. If it helps the discussion, balun is a contraction of 'balanced-unbalanced'. 85.218.91.20 ( talk) 08:41, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Re: [10] What is your basis for including Kede in the central group? I could offer you a cite for this - as well as a more authoritative one to correct it - but I'd like to hear your reasons. Where are you getting this material? 24.22.141.61 ( talk) 09:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Kwamikagami, your edit here to ghazal appears to invert the meaning of the statement about mispronunciation. Your edit summary was "fix IPA per MOS", but all you seem to have done is change "often mispronounced" to "pronounced", and reverse the order of instances. Can you please clarify? Thanks. -- Yumegusa ( talk) 10:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
An editor is questioning notability as well as altering presentation in ways I feel are unhelpful. Would appreciate your input at Talk:Borean languages. -- JWB ( talk) 20:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
That indeed was OED. And what do you mean about dialects? -- Cybercobra (talk) 02:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
-- Cybercobra (talk) 04:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)(kəʊ'pɜːnɪkən) [f. Copernicus, Latinized form of Koppernik, name of a celebrated astronomer, a native of Thorn in Prussian Poland (1473-1543) + -AN.]
You will, I'm sure, have noted already that castigating me as 'trolling' (whatever that silly term means) on wikipedia talk: IPA for English is rather puerile and, moreover, missing the point. This IPA discussion has rambled, deviated and transmogrified too much for too long. It is, I'm sure, an easier thing to shout 'troll' than actually engage in a sensible discussion of how to wrap this issue up but I should hope (however vainly) that you would be able to refrain from name calling and engage seriously with the matter in hand. Fortnum ( talk) 21:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand this edit. Are you saying that RP is not in fact completely non-rhotic? What is the supposed RP pronounciation of "Cheshire"? My native accent is pretty close to RP, and I've never heard anything but [ˈtʃʰɛʃə] or similar. What is your source for saying otherwise? Cheers Grover cleveland ( talk) 19:35, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, you've been the largest contributor to the French IPA Template, I was wondering if I could get your input concerning the use of [Square Brackets] vs. /Slashes/. The problem likely extends to a number of other of those IPA templates, but for now please refer to the IPA-fr talk page, thanks. — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 23:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you explain why you engaged in an edit war and then blocked the other party who was also edit warring? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 02:56, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Think you could adjust the IPA for this page? Right now it has the pronunciation for Mardi Gras, which I just copy and pasted over from that article when I was writing this article a few weeks ago. I was unsure how to do the IPA for the whole phrase tho, so I left a note on the talk page, but no one has done it yet. I noticed you seem to be involved with this, so thought I'd ask. The correct pronunciation is french, so the r's in Courir are practically silent, if that helps. Thanks, Heironymous Rowe ( talk) 23:46, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed this edit and wanted to point out that there doesn't appear to be clear consensus that inclusion of a DEFAULTSORT on every article is necessary or desired. Specifically in the case of taxa, no other article on Wikipedia is going to categorize near Nepenthes pitopangii except other Nepenthes species with the same second word capitalization (lowercase). The DEFAULTSORT, when applied sporadically, also messes up categories that are already correct without any DEFAULTSORTs. Cheers, Rkitko ( talk) 02:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if you saw my post on the Middle Bronze age... etc. discussion page. I am not trying to be combative, but (I am discovering alongside writing this paper), it is generally assumed by scholars that these are simply an earlier iteration of the Proto-Sinaitic script and not a divergent script. The latter hypothesis would (I am guessing) weaken 'their' case that the alphabet followed a simple singular progression. This hurts the organization of the article, but (particularly as my own assessment is the opposite) I have no real suggestions for how to rectify this problem without eviscerating the article. As it stands now, it (the article) is organized by location and time: i.e. the article is itself organized by category-time intersection (alphabet-middle bronze age). However, the internal structure is place-based; i.e. Sinai vs. Thebes. The problem is, and I have spoken personally with Dr. Darnell on this subject, that they refuse to recognize the possibility that the language or script are in fact part of any divergent trend. Therefore (as far as I have been able to find - and my research has been quite extensive), nobody except me argues that they are not Proto-Sinaitic. Hence... I am this page's organization's greatest ally, but the organization itself is a form of OR. Thoughts? Michael Sheflin ( talk) 10:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I sent you my correspondence with Dr. John C. Darnell and Dr. Chip Dobbs-Allsopp. I must acknowledge that my patience wore thin very quickly over the course of these correspondences. Nevertheless, they reiterated their key points to me. Since they don't consider the inscriptions related, it throws an even further fork in a Wadi el-Hol Script. Michael Sheflin ( talk) 22:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
In regards to
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You are not following the rules of Korean romanization. I suggest you read up on the article: Korean romanization and Revised Romanization of Korean (the current standard system used in Korea). Things are Romanized based on the pronunciation, NOT how it is spelled. You are not doing any readers any favors giving them inaccurate information. If you don't have any basic knowledge of Korean, then you probably shouldn't be undoing other people's edits.
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Hi, Kwamikagami. If you can spare a moment, please would you discuss your reverts on my cleanup of and content added to the Amdo Tibetan language at Talk:Amdo Tibetan language. Thank you for your time. Moonsell ( talk) 06:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Kwami. I've wound several discussion threads on several talk pages in to one called: "One language, a number of dialects" on Talk:Tibetan languages. Please, if you can get the time, would you like to follow it there. Best wishes. Moonsell ( talk) 11:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I have just discovered User:Keymanweb/Keymanweb, and then I remembered you as the Wikipedian most likely (to my knowledge) to be able to use the tool for working with different scripts. Here are some related links.
I will watch here for your reply. -- Wavelength ( talk) 21:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Just noticed you removed the flag from the top of the Tibetan languages article saying it needed citations. I think you removed the wrong one. The other flag, saying it needs an expert makes a lot less sense to me.
As for the need for citations, thanks to your edition now we have one. The other, older citation is a broken link and needs to be removed. That is hardly enough for the whole article. I didn't put either of the flags there but I think we should keep the "needs citations" one, not as a badge of dishonour to the article, but as a request for others who read it to help out and add citations. What do you think? Moonsell ( talk) 00:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello Kwami:
I have been researching the "a" sound in Spanish for about a week, and I thought I would improve your example of "father" with another example, namely "tar". The reason for this was simple. "Father" is a rather ambiguous example because in some regions of North America, it is pronounced more like "Fo-ther", where the "a" and "o" sound have merged. This is called the Father-bother merger. If you are a linguist, you may be aware of this. I just wanted to make sure that everyone who comes to the Wikipedia:IPA for Spanish has another example to follow that is not ambiguous and is often used as the only example for the "ah" sound in Spanish. Here is a case in point: [11], where you can see that the only example given is the word "car."
I think that the word "tar" is precisely the example you need to avoid ambiguity. I have no idea why you would so quickly dismiss it, unless you felt offended that anyone would question the word "father" as the sole example for this sound. I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be unbiased. It looks like some editors like to wield their "power" to strike out sensible additions without any good reason.
I did not see any mention of Spanish on your user page. Since when have you become an expert on this language? :) Just curious. Skol fir ( talk) 19:04, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Just to throw in another view, after a discussion at Talk:Southern American English, I've come to realize that a good example for Spanish /a/ is "blinding" (/blandɪn/); in SAE its first vowel is the same as Spanish blando (I don't use "blind" because its vowel is long: /blaːnd/). I'm not actually suggesting a change, but rather that "a" as /a/ is not a familiar sound to many North Americans.-- Curtis Clark ( talk) 13:17, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, hate to bother you but someone is edit warring on Canadian Gaelic, trying to push a (to my and other editors' POV) very strange agenda about "Canadian Gaelic" being an unacceptable term. He also, in his efforts to purge the Gaelic, keeps breaking the link to the map. Much obliged if you could put in a word. Akerbeltz ( talk) 14:31, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
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The original designation of Pinghua as a stub was due in no small part to the lack of objective content and the absence of citations, since then the content has been improved a great deal and citations have been added. What further is required for the article to fairly have the stub classification removed? Johnkn63 ( talk) 11:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for changing the designation on Talk:Pinghua. On the Pinguhua page itself the is a Sino-tibetan stub tag the purpose of which seems a little unclear to me. Suggestions as to the type of material that could be added to the article would be most welcome. Johnkn63 ( talk) 02:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you please come and have a look at the Africa article as I think the edit conflict has almost been resolved now. Yattum ( talk) 21:34, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Notifying you of an ANI discussion. Colipon+( Talk) 19:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)