...for my shiny thing and your kind words. I decided to do a bit of NPP last weekend which I had never done before. I normally just watch these. What an eye-opener! A daily flood of illiterate dross, hoaxes, copyvio, advertising etc. etc.. The IEP "contributions" are just the icing on the daily cake. Did you participate in that IEP conference? I wonder how it went. I honestly can't believe the degree to which the WMF have their collective heads in the sand. How on earth could they positively encourage a program that would release literally hundreds of articles virtually simultaneously (created by students contributing under duress and without a clue of what's required) without thinking this through or even warning the projects that would have to clean up the inevitable mess. I didn't add this to the IEP talk page, but I'm pretty disappointed by the Foundation's utter disregard for the foot soldiers of Wikipedia and the degree to which they are out of touch with what it's really like to edit here, day in and day out. OK, rant over, feel better now. ;-) Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 20:25, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
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HI , OH you deleted the article "Artificial Intelligence" due to some mistakes done by me.I want your suggestion what should i do now from where should i must start the article "ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN DATA MINING" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Netra Nahar ( talk • contribs) 12:51, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung,
I recently created a new page, Medway High School Theatre, that was removed because it was said to contain copyrighted wob content material. The website shown in reference to that copyrighted material, (Copy of web content at http://www.science24.org/show/Medway_High_School_%28Massachusetts%29) was actually taken directly from a wikipedia page that has since been edited, Medway High School. Since the web content was actually pulled directly from a wikipedia page, therefore the wikipedia page was the original source of this information, can this new page be allowed? It will not be a duplicate of the Medway High School page, because that page has since been edited and will continue to be edited to more closely reflect major facts about the school. Please advise. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12musical34 ( talk • contribs) 15:21, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Thankyou for participating in my request for adminship. Now I've got lots of extra buttons to try and avoid pressing by mistake... Redrose64 ( talk) 15:30, 14 October 2011 (UTC) |
See User talk:Netra Nahar#Important – Please read. This is going to need rev-del too. I let Ruud Koot who did the rev-dels in Artificial Intelligence in Data Mining know [1]. Triple sigh... Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:29, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
The simple answer, I don't like twinkle. It is extremely overused for every action that people can do with their own hands. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 04:51, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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05:04, 15 October 2011 (UTC)Hi Kudpung! I was recently doing some WP:NACs on AfD and thought that I might be ready to go for a RfA, with conquerable experience globally, however I might need some more experience locally, I have been quite active on many projects and areas, varying from vandal fighting to article improvements. I wanted to get your recommendations that how can I be ready for the mop. Thanks or your consideration. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 06:24, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Please see that the page Rock on Radio has been deleted.I didn't delete it.It was deleted by another user. Dipankan001 ( talk) 14:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Sir, I am extremely sorry for the copvios in my edits,now i restarted the work and I want you to go through it if you have time.I wrote the stuff on "Gray Box Testing" in my sandbox. Netra Nahar ( talk · contribs) Netra Nahar 16:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hello sir, There have been no Copyright Violations done by my class(ie the students I am responsible for). I have given them a law suit scare and that seemed to do the trick. The other CAs do not agree with my methods of scaring instead of teaching. I check their articles regularly and look out for any copyvios, and other CAs are doing the same, but since there are more than a 100 articles which every CA has to go through he might miss some of them which have been picked up by the western editors. We have received no help from the online ambassadors. I have put up the template you designed for the IEP on the article's atalk pages. The reason that you are noticing copy vios on tens of articles instead of all the 1000 of them is because CAs have been doing their job. But the sheer number of the articles prevent us from 100% accuracy of detecting copy vios. We all are working on wikipedia improvement. And the western editors seem to have a completely different level/standard on the quality of articles.I would say an article a bit lower in quality would be better than a stub level article since it provides information even though not in perfect grammar and english but atleast in a language which can be understood by the people using the free encyclopedia. Remember WMF wanted this to happen in India, so they must have or should have expected a difference in the english quality since it is not the first language of people here in India compared to the Education program in US. I hope you understand this. We all are working for a common goal ie free knowledge, so can you please be a bit more lenient and patient and all issues will be resolved. I recognize you contribution to the IEP and all the help you have provided us, I just ask you to be a bit more lenient and understand the complication we are going through. Thank you. Feel Free to leave me a message. Mihir.khatwani ( talk) 19:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it is quite fair to accuse us of bullying and jiving. The en.Wiki may have millions of 'editors', but the number of volunteers who are truly dedicated to Wikipedia is actually quite small, especially when it comes to those who not only contribute their own articles, but who also spend huge amounts of time on maintenance tasks. The problem is that we are already overstretched with these tasks, and at the best of times we have around 7 to 10 people to check over 1,000 new pages that arrive here every day of the week. As you probably know, some of us are collaborating closely with the WMF to develop a new user interface for new users to make it easier for them to edit and get it right. At the same time, we are also working hard on new systems to improve our handling of those new pages. However, these developments do not happen overnight and many members of the community feel that the IEP is either ill timed, or ill prepared, and this means that we simply do not have the resources to be as helpful as you would like us to be. Nevertheless, we are doing our best, and some of that 'best' is not only locating the IEP pages that need attention, but also to help the WMF understand that this is a real problem. If you take a close look at the comments above in this thread (and the many discussions that I have already archived), you will see that rather than criticising the individual students or poor quality, we are having to provide some evidence that the project needs more understanding of the isues associated with it. The problem is not one of quality, it is one of insufficient understanding of the core policy of copyvio, and seeing students simply recreating the same articles that have already been deleted, or not looking to see if an article on that topic already exists. We are according the same degree of control over the IEP articles as we do to any other, and certainly without any bad faith. However, we have had the rules and policies of Wikipedia drummed into us - especially those of us who have gone through the very difficult and sometimes unpleasant process to become administrators. Without the volunteers and admins who control and process new pages, there would be no Wikipedia, no WMF, and no IEP, and it is fair to expect that when new projects of this magnitude are launched, some plans should have been made for the inevitable cleaning up. I believe the WMF is now taking this very seriously, and I have offered any help I can, but my personal help is not on cleaning up the individual IEP pages - my main work as an volunteer here is to contribute my own articles, and help develop new aids for newcomers and give them a boost. One tool that is indispensable for campus ambassadors is the duplication detector, and there are many other tricks of the trade for identifying problem articles, but we have not been asked to train the CAs, and we believed they would have already received adequate instruction before the project began. I am open to any suggestions as to how I can be of personal help in this respect and how I can offer my own experience of Wikipedia, and of working in education in Asia for for almost 13 years now. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 13:35, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
P.S. Instead of just telling me the name of tools like the duplication detector, can you not also provide me the link, will make my work easier my loads. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debastein1 ( talk • contribs) 14:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
How to detect copyright problems; a few thoughts on the approach to correcting the issueHi. As "Maggie Dennis", I'm a contractor for the Wikimedia Foundation. One of my jobs is to help when issues rise between the WMF and its contractors and volunteers. As a volunteer, I have for several years now put most of my time into cleaning up copyright problems and counseling contributors on how to avoid them. As you can see, this situation kind of bridges my roles. :) I debated which account should speak here, but I decided that this is primarily my perspective as Moonriddengirl. I'm here in that capacity. In terms of how "regular" volunteers of Wikipedia (by which I mean only those who are not involved in the IEP in one way or another) handle this, I'm afraid we run into practical time concerns. Mentorship is fabulous, but it does require time. The culture on English Wikipedia is that typically new page patrollers will flag problems they find in articles so that these problems can be repaired. The template messages that the community has created over the years are intended to explain to newcomers what the problems mean and how they can be fixed. I believe there is some talk underway about how to make the process less intimidating for newcomers, but it'll probably be a while before anything is implemented there. However, we're trying! I created and several contributors have refined Template:Uw-copyright-new, which is a brief explanation of copyright policies that can be left for students, whether IEP or otherwise. (Actually, it can be left for anybody, but I created it with students in mind.) Prior to creating the template, I have left similar notes to several students already. I think it's a good idea to use this template with students in the IEP on the first instance of copying. In terms of bots, unfortunately, we no longer have any copyright bots. WMF is working on this, but until something returns, we are limited to manual checks. Duplication detector is a good tool, but it has limitations. You can find it here. It is only usable when you know the source, to see how extensive copying might be. It will not detect all "close paraphrasing", which requires a manual comparison. It is also a little over sensitive at this point. I usually adjust the "minimum number of words" to 4. Otherwise, the only thing we can do is look for phrases that seem particularly striking and put them in a search engine like Google and see if we can get any matches. Wikipedia:Plagiarism#How to find plagiarism outlines the basic approach. One of the free plagiarism detectors I use is [2], but it has some challenges for Wikipedia work. First, it trips on footnotes...it doesn't exclude those from its checks. So you have to take them out of the material you paste in the window. Second, it does not exclude Wikipedia mirrors (that may be using older content) or even Wikipedia itself. :) Third, like the duplication detector, it can't find all "close paraphrasing" issues. Fourth, it does not check Google books. Kudpung, I'm sorry if you're feeling frustrated by all this. Putting on my liaison hat temporarily, I know that the Wikimedia Foundation appreciates all you've done to help highlight the issues, so that they (and we, the community) can work to find solutions. WMF can't work quite as quickly as Wikipedia itself does, but they are pursuing this with all speed. There is, for example, a conference set up for it tomorrow. You can also read some conversation at meta:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation - India Programs/Education Program. Debastein1, I'm sorry if you've felt attacked by people linking the problem to the education system. :( I don't think this is meant to offend. Copyright problems can and do come from all over the world. We do see higher incidences of them in some areas, though, and I know that in a government study now about 10 years old, public familiarity with copyright laws in India were found to be low. I know that the government has taken great strides to counter that, but it can take considerable time to effect culture-wide change, and college age students from many countries face difficulties. I know that in the United States younger students are usually rewarded for memorizing what their teachers tell them are facts. In a way, they are trained to parrot others. As they get older, they are expected to transition away from this, but they aren't always properly trained to do that. I have had many a frustrating session with college students who seem completely baffled by the whole idea of "paraphrasing". On Wikipedia, this is particularly complicated because contributors are warned that they must also avoid original research. This is a tough combination for some. :) In other words, those who are suggesting that India may be more prone to copyright problems than some other areas are not necessarily wrong, and they are not necessarily intending to attack India. I suspect that they are simply trying to grasp the parameters of the problem so we can work out how to repair it. It may be worth exploring if there is a specific cultural element, as this can help us tailor our approach. Kupung, I am sorry for occupying so much of your page. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC) |
Good call regarding the Xavier College article. You were unusually prescient when we spoke about that a couple of months ago.
I'm starting to think that it might be worthwhile exploring our options with school articles a little bit more. School articles are frequent targets of vandalism, mainly from idiotic teenagers. It is almost never the case that I look over my watchlist and find that there hasn't been a school article vandalised. Exacerbating the issue is the relative lack of editors active on school articles relative to other vandalism-prone areas of wikipedia (i.e., music, politics or geography).
Where it isn't vandalism, it's an issue of WP:NPOV and particularly WP:COI (e.g., Craigmore Christian School, where there have been a couple of little editing back-and-forths with the principal of the school.
Maybe, then, this is the opportunity to think a little bit more about my stance on protection which is that all school articles should be semi-protected indefinitely. At the very least, I think that there should be looser criteria for protecting school articles against other articles. What are your thoughts before I waste time thinking about it any further? ˜ danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:57, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
There's a rather petulant dynamic IP spamming the living daylights out of my talkpage. If you are currently online, some administrative intervention would be appreciated; it is very late (early?) where I am, and I'd like to get some sleep without having my talk torn to shreds whilst I slumber. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 07:40, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for your suggestion regarding The_Origins_of_Political_Order. I did not think anyone would read it for quite some time. Could you please suggest how to meet appropriate standards? It was only meant as a stub with just the reference to the book itself. I added ISBN and then saw that you kindly read and suggested that it be improved somehow. I just do not know how, and was hoping someone else would. The book merits the attention. DanielDemaret ( talk) 11:43, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I think the book qualifies to be included judging numbers sold. This week it ranks 4,956 on Amazon, which should mean it sells a minimum of 15,000 copies per week, which is ok for a pretty academic subject by a professor. I know I am a lousy editor. I am more from the science/engineer/cyberworld part of the world, rather than the arts. That is what I love about having 3,000,000 other editors that can help me out here :) DanielDemaret ( talk) 11:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I read the Wikipedia:Notability (books) that newpaper articles about the book might be enough so I added a few external references to some reviews, hoping that this would be enough. Is it? By the way, was the delete-sign added by a bot? It hit while I was editing the first draft, and few things are as fast as a bot. DanielDemaret ( talk) 12:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
You have both been most kind and helpful. I shall read your suggestions and take the time to digest it. I just wrote down the article off the top of my head from memory over a lunch break. Making a half decent article will take me a lot longer. DanielDemaret ( talk) 19:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I unblocked PeerReviewBot - the bot will archive any peer review that is older than 14 days and has not yet received any comments. PR is really backlogged and so some requests have been taking longer than 14 days, which is what happened to yours. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 12:04, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
PS Might I suggest that the next time you block a bot you leave a message on the operator's talk page? Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 12:07, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Please have a look over this article, Case of arakcheev and khudyakov.I have placed a Nominate for deletion tag,which means,everyone has a right to join in the discussion.I think this might be a complete hoax.As a Google search mentions nothing and it I suggest it should be moved to Wikinews if this is current.Please give your opinion. Dipankan001 ( talk) 12:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi! I've been tangling with a copyright violation at Story-driven modelling and I'm trying to handle it without exacerbating the issue. The text was deleted last night per G12 then replace this morning with the copyvio still present. An interesting IP, 203.197.87.94 ( talk · contribs) has now removed all of the copyright text, leaving a stub. The text is fine now but there's no indication of importance. I see two problems, one is that the copyrighted text is still found in the history and two, the notability of the subject isn't established without the copyvio text (if it ever was). Rather than mark the article for A7 or take it to AfD which might cause more problems than good, I thought you might have suggestion.
Also, I got your email. I've been reading through the related articles and essays. I'll take some time to consider the idea and I'll let you know what I think. OlYeller Talktome 15:36, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Bioscrypt Inc. is the global market leader in biometrics. It deserves space on Wikipedia as most it is the biggest company which has commercialized biometrics for consumers. I have nothing to do with this company, but I saw another article for another player in this market called Suprema Inc. How come, they can have their page but Bioscrypt cannot? Also, the references are not company links, they are third party websites. Infact, one link is Industry Canada profile page by the Government of Canada. Bioscrypt is in top 50 fastest growing companies in Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhinavcambridge ( talk • contribs) 16:09, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung!
I've just created a page, Jim Lanzone, and noticed that you have tagged it as needing primary sources. I've included a number of outside references to where I gathered the information. Which content in general do you feel needs extra citation? I'd be happy to gather any extra info you feel is lacking.
Thanks for your help!
Roger O. Thornhill 17:07, 17 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RogerOthornhill ( talk • contribs)
Hello,
I noticed the refimprove tag you placed on the article
Aham. Since this is a 1992 film, it is very difficult to find a lot of reference links. I added the IMDB link already for verifying the credibility of the article. Most of the links available for the film leads to the film or songs downloads or You-Tube links. Please advise how to improve such articles for films which are 20 years or older, when Internet was not so popular, especially in India (
Kerala)? I will be updating the article with Infobox, DVD cover, plot summary, songs-list etc.
Anish Viswa
07:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry I have no idea. I am not putting a {{ sub}} on them because in most cases there is not a lot more info to be had. One though though, does the algorithm look for <ref></ref> pairs (because I am using the {{ sfn}})? -- PBS ( talk) 07:16, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
I am as keen as you on policing the Pune projects stuff but I feel you have been a bit hard on Sachin ghode ( talk · contribs). Knuckle joint (mechanical) seems to me a totally valid stub and mechanical joint is even in User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Mechanics. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 10:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Dear Kudpung - you're fast! You're perfectly entitled to raise a conflict of interest - I am the current Headmaster of Moreton Hall. However, I'm not marketing the school as such, I'm merely contributing a factual account of the school's identity and history. Given the existence of other school pages on Wikipedia I'd like to contend that I'm simply redressing an inequity: Moreton Hall Preparatory School exists and has as much of a right to a mention. Clearly this is my first foray so I apologise for any unwitting blunders, but hope the article can stand for now, giving me a chance to fill a small gap oin the encyclopedia. Thank you Simon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.134.126.77 ( talk) 11:22, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Done. See Moreton Hall (Suffolk). I'll add more to it tomorrow. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:09, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
I am not very good at this wiki service. please help me prove the swift & safe security wiki page or if you could please update it as you are a professional.
thanks & Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.134.117 ( talk) 13:34, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Kudpung, just asking you something, if there is blatant copyvios from a blog then what criterion should I put it under speedy deletion because G12 won't exactly suffice cause, the blog may not have copyright protection, however blogs are not acceptable references. Are there any templates specific to this copyvio under bad reference problem, or do I just nominate it under G12?? Please revert back as soon as possible.
Debastein1 (
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"Lets make this world a better and more informative place"
20:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung, I wanted your thoughts on if this is a good idea;
Go to User talk:1966batfan#Homework 4. Scroll down to where it says something like "2. 1. Go to Special:NewPages". Read the part after that.
It appears that these instructions may be getting pasted to all of the adoptees of User:Fltyingpig, of whom there are at least three so far, and presumably going to be many more.
The instructions get some of the important ideas across, but I'm wondering if the level of information being provided in these lessons/instructions is enough for people to be going right ahead and patrolling new pages, even if they're only going to be doing three pages each?
(Maybe they'll do a lot more than three, if they like it.)
Fltyingpig is very responsive to feedback, and is currently fixing some other concerns I had about their adoption program. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 01:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks again Kudpung, for helping me out by giving me the pointers while looking out for copyvios. I have been patrolling the pages created by the users of the
IEP. I have been mainly going through the classes assigned to me. I do have my exams coming up, so I shall be a bit inactive. Once, they are over, I shall again resume my patrolling. I have kept a log of the pages I have sent for speedy deletion
here. I hope this eases the burden that the users like you along with community is facing. Am trying my very best. Thanks for all the help and the hard work you put in everyday. I really feel inspired by the level of effort you put in. Hope one day I too can become an Administrator and defend Wikipedia like you do. If you have any issues whatsoever, feel free to revert back to me.
Debastein1 (
talk)
"Lets make this world a better and more informative place"
17:42, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung, this is Survir. Can you please protect the following pages List of programs broadcast by Zee TV and List of programs broadcast by Imagine TV. The following IP user User:109.148.210.232 constantly vandalizing these pages by adding made up/hoax names of television series to the current/former shows list (the shows that never aired on these channels). He/she is also transfering shows list of one channel to another channel. By the way, the IP address changes every few days. I have reverted so many times but he/she keeps adding false information to these plus many other articles (you can view the list edited by this user by clicking on the IP address). Please help! I will be really thankful to you! Your friend Survir ( talk) 00:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Apologies! My only intention was to speedily remove the page - not to frighten the newcomer. I see have you have already informed the account holder that he/she has made a mistake. I will write self-typed responses to this type of issue in the future. Thanks for pointing this out. Touch Of Light ( talk) 02:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
I guess I'm just slow then... by a month... :-( Maxim (talk) 19:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung,
I've put this up for discussion at AfD, per our conversation on my talkpage the other day. Just thought you'd like to know. Cheers, Yunshui ( talk) 23:49, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung,
Philippe mentioned that you were looking for someone who could help you run a regression on some RfA data. Has that request been resolved, or are you still waiting? I might be able to help. If you email me the data, I should have something for you in a day or two :) Maryana (WMF) ( talk) 02:01, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung, I hope you're well. My name is Aaron and I'm one of the Storytellers working on the 2011 fundraiser here at the Wikimedia Foundation. For this year's campaign we're seeking out and interviewing active Wikipedians like yourself, in order to produce a broader and more representative range of "personal appeals" to run come November. If you'd like to participate in this project, please email me at amuszalskiwikimedia.org. Interviews are typically conducted by phone or Skype and take between 30-90 minutes. Thanks! Aaron (WMF) ( talk) 21:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung. I've been patrolling from the end of the queue, but notice that if someone has moved, redirected, or deleted a page before marking it patrolled, it stubbornly remains in the list (as a blue link) and there doesn't seem to be any way of fixing it. 3 examples from the end of the queue: Bisection Method, Design of Keys and shafts, Structural Modeling. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 11:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
I am notifying you that I have copied the first (above) template from you to my talk page. Dipankan001 ( talk) 15:09, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for notifying me about that! Dipankan001 ( talk) 07:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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Any idea why deleted pages aren't disappearing from the end of the NPP backlog? I can't mark them as aptrolled, and they're filling up my screen with clicked-on links! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 11:15, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hello Kudpung,
We haven't formally met. I'm
Arjun Mangol Kanoth, and am the onsite CA for the
Machine Drawing and Computer Graphics class under the IEP. I've been acting on your messages about certain problems that arise out of our class, on IEP and other talkpages, though I never spoke on Wiki about it. This message is just to say that if you have any queries or find any problems with my class, I'm the one to contact. And yes, I'm now helping the users working on
Electric Steam Boiler and
Boiler design, will sort out the problems ASAP. And I apologise if you found any ineptitude on my part, managing 173 students from two different classes was no mean task. There is a lax in editing at present due to
Diwali holidays here. If we step in now, it gives us time to review everything and identify problems we have missed, so after this, editing will be a much smoother process, or so I hope.
Cheers!
--
The Mangol (
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02:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm aware that you don't use IRC that much, but do you know if there's a specific IRC channel for NPP, where NP patrollers can discuss what they're doing and ask for advice? ขอบคุณ Sp33dyphil © • © 05:15, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
You templated the wrong person. You warned the person who tagged it for deletion instead of the creator. Ladyof Shalott 07:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
hi , i am new to this wiki thing
as i was writing my article on Philip Micahel wolfson you deleted it. i understand my mistake but i can't update the file because of your deletion..
11:35, 24 October 2011 Kudpung (talk | contribs) deleted "Philip Michael Wolfson" (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement: of http://www.wolfsondesign.com/press/2011/FORMS%20Q%20BOOK%202011web.pdf (Duplication Detector report))
ChrisRidout ( talk) 12:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Kudpung, the legal team cleared the survey hours ago, hence why I've asked Snottywong to fire up the ion flux capacitors. Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 02:38, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
The Special Barnstar | |
Thanks for making the article for me :) Lordsunkel ( talk) 09:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC) |
Thank you! If you need any help on German bands 1974 - 1989, don't hesitate to ask. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 09:34, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
So I just saw your criteria, and your criteria disallows reformed vandals from years ago, and/or a wrong templating. I suggest from changing it to "No well placed warnings on vandalism in the past 6 months". ~~
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Hello,
I recently wrote an article on COGEN Europe and saw that you gave it an advertisement tag. I modified it a bit since then, but maybe not enough. Since I am new to writing for wikipedia I was thinking that maybe you could briefly (don't want to take up to much of your time) tell me what you thought was wrong....or maybe just an example of what struck you as bias.
Thank you in advance for your reply Bogdan 007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bogdan 007 ( talk • contribs) 11:12, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the fast reply. I can see why you might have tagged it as an advertisement. The problem, is that the organisation is actually spelled with capital letters :). I'll try and use pronouns more and maybe refer to it by its longer name. With regard to the sources, I though I had quite a few secondary sources compared to other articles on similar sized organisations. I'll take a second look at it anyway.
Cheers Bogdan 007 ( talk) 12:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 12:19, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey its me again the guy with the COGEN page.... look I've been really banging my head on how to rewrite the article, gave it a few days but I can't really think of a way in which to radically alter the way its written. It really just describes what the organisation is doing and the only reason I mentioned some specific dossiers or report was in order to achieve notability.
Anyway I did adjust it a little, deleting a sentence in which I said that the organisations aims to assure the interest of its members.... and changed the last paragraph a bit....and of course as previously mentioned made more use of pronouns. Not a radical makeover as previously mentioned.
With regard to notability, I think I covered it better than other articles that are out there on wikipedia. I know the publications are all European, but this is where the organisation conducts its activities. I have a reference from Euractiv - reference No. 8 (a very reliable an well known source) which is an interview with the managing director of Cogen Europe. I also have a reference from the European Commission which outlines one of their reports (reference No. 21) and also a few from COSPP (Cogeneration and onsite power production) - an important publication in this field - which emphasize their activities. I could have given more, but then would have had to mention more of their activities.....and apparently the article already says to much about them :).
Just a final note, I used the Friends of Europe ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Europe) article as a model (because it is a similar size organisation), and I don't see much difference in that article's tone and the one I wrote, and with regard to notability, mine covers it a bit better I think.
Sorry fur such a long message, but I just wanted to argue my case a bit better. If you still don't see fit to remove the advert tag or to sorta tell me specifically what bothers you about it, then I really hope that some other users out there will help me out more on this.
Thanks again for your time Bogdan 007 ( talk) 09:13, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Kudpung. I've recently started patrolling pages via NPP instead of just through filters (special page tags). So far, it seems to take me about an average of 4 minutes to assess and treat an article. I have noticed that some editors are taking 10 to 12 seconds to assess and treat an article. That seems sort of alarming to me. Is there any sort of common time it takes experienced patrollers to assess a page. Also, is there an average amount of patrol time that is too short? I'm worried that these other editors that do five pages in one minute may be causing more problems than they're solving. I know you're experienced in patrolling so I thought I'd ask you.
Also, if you have any suggestions for me outside of what I've read at WP:NPP, please let me know. OlYeller21 Talktome 22:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Glad my review was helpful. I think it would be a lot of work, but I do not see getting the Old Malvernians list to FL as impossible. What part do you see as impossible? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:16, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I go thru Recently created biographies of living people everyday and do an assortment of stuff to the articles via AWB. On some of the article, I manually add a Prod, go over the article for nobility, etc. Is there an easy way to mark the those articles patrolled? Bgwhite ( talk) 08:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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If World class manufacturing was a blatant copyright violation, is not the creator's user page just as bad? WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 18:32, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I guess you made a mistake here. You moved this sanbox from main space to another main space ( Chaitanya.gayke/Sandbox). I guess you wanted to move it to User:Chaitanya.gayke/Sandbox? — Abhishek Talk 08:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
I removed the prod tag you placed on Mark Sukhija, as the article creator's (inappropriate) use of the {{hangon}} tag and the message left on the talk page indicates that deletion is not uncontroversial. I did this only in the interest of WP:AGF; I have no opinion one way or the other on the merits of deletion. Please consider opening an AfD if you still wish to pursue deletion. Thanks! — KuyaBriBri Talk 13:47, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
In case you are not informed, the following is a link to the complete list of students of the IEP.
Sorry I haven't been of much help lately. Debastein1 ( talk) 11:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
If you have read my responses to you recent message on my talk page, you will have seen that I said "I think they (user pages) shouldn't be (Google indexed), but they are". Since then I have remembered that someone or other once pointed out to me that there are actually some advantages in having them indexed. For example, sometimes the following happens. I see an article which looks like a likely copyright infringement, so I do a Google search for some of its content. Google throws up both the original page that it's a copyvio of and a user page with the same content, which would otherwise have escaped notice. I am sure have come across other circumstances too where this is an advantage, but that's the one that comes to mind now. So there are, I think, both pros and cons. JamesBWatson ( talk) 19:34, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm confused, I was never involved with Access Denied. Secret account 06:31, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
I still don't see the link, but sounds sensible enough. Thanks Secret account 06:49, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
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For your long and true comment at mw:Talk:Article_creation_workflow#MoodBar_comments mabdul 15:52, 29 October 2011 (UTC) |
Thank you Mabdull, that's very kind of you :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Kudpung, I've just politely declined an article by 'Piano' at AfC. I see that this was the second attempt by the same user today. I don't know what was in the first one, but if the second is identical then ... I thought you ought to know. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 13:58, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
...for my shiny thing and your kind words. I decided to do a bit of NPP last weekend which I had never done before. I normally just watch these. What an eye-opener! A daily flood of illiterate dross, hoaxes, copyvio, advertising etc. etc.. The IEP "contributions" are just the icing on the daily cake. Did you participate in that IEP conference? I wonder how it went. I honestly can't believe the degree to which the WMF have their collective heads in the sand. How on earth could they positively encourage a program that would release literally hundreds of articles virtually simultaneously (created by students contributing under duress and without a clue of what's required) without thinking this through or even warning the projects that would have to clean up the inevitable mess. I didn't add this to the IEP talk page, but I'm pretty disappointed by the Foundation's utter disregard for the foot soldiers of Wikipedia and the degree to which they are out of touch with what it's really like to edit here, day in and day out. OK, rant over, feel better now. ;-) Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 20:25, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
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HI , OH you deleted the article "Artificial Intelligence" due to some mistakes done by me.I want your suggestion what should i do now from where should i must start the article "ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN DATA MINING" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Netra Nahar ( talk • contribs) 12:51, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung,
I recently created a new page, Medway High School Theatre, that was removed because it was said to contain copyrighted wob content material. The website shown in reference to that copyrighted material, (Copy of web content at http://www.science24.org/show/Medway_High_School_%28Massachusetts%29) was actually taken directly from a wikipedia page that has since been edited, Medway High School. Since the web content was actually pulled directly from a wikipedia page, therefore the wikipedia page was the original source of this information, can this new page be allowed? It will not be a duplicate of the Medway High School page, because that page has since been edited and will continue to be edited to more closely reflect major facts about the school. Please advise. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12musical34 ( talk • contribs) 15:21, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Thankyou for participating in my request for adminship. Now I've got lots of extra buttons to try and avoid pressing by mistake... Redrose64 ( talk) 15:30, 14 October 2011 (UTC) |
See User talk:Netra Nahar#Important – Please read. This is going to need rev-del too. I let Ruud Koot who did the rev-dels in Artificial Intelligence in Data Mining know [1]. Triple sigh... Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:29, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
The simple answer, I don't like twinkle. It is extremely overused for every action that people can do with their own hands. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 04:51, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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05:04, 15 October 2011 (UTC)Hi Kudpung! I was recently doing some WP:NACs on AfD and thought that I might be ready to go for a RfA, with conquerable experience globally, however I might need some more experience locally, I have been quite active on many projects and areas, varying from vandal fighting to article improvements. I wanted to get your recommendations that how can I be ready for the mop. Thanks or your consideration. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 06:24, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Please see that the page Rock on Radio has been deleted.I didn't delete it.It was deleted by another user. Dipankan001 ( talk) 14:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Sir, I am extremely sorry for the copvios in my edits,now i restarted the work and I want you to go through it if you have time.I wrote the stuff on "Gray Box Testing" in my sandbox. Netra Nahar ( talk · contribs) Netra Nahar 16:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hello sir, There have been no Copyright Violations done by my class(ie the students I am responsible for). I have given them a law suit scare and that seemed to do the trick. The other CAs do not agree with my methods of scaring instead of teaching. I check their articles regularly and look out for any copyvios, and other CAs are doing the same, but since there are more than a 100 articles which every CA has to go through he might miss some of them which have been picked up by the western editors. We have received no help from the online ambassadors. I have put up the template you designed for the IEP on the article's atalk pages. The reason that you are noticing copy vios on tens of articles instead of all the 1000 of them is because CAs have been doing their job. But the sheer number of the articles prevent us from 100% accuracy of detecting copy vios. We all are working on wikipedia improvement. And the western editors seem to have a completely different level/standard on the quality of articles.I would say an article a bit lower in quality would be better than a stub level article since it provides information even though not in perfect grammar and english but atleast in a language which can be understood by the people using the free encyclopedia. Remember WMF wanted this to happen in India, so they must have or should have expected a difference in the english quality since it is not the first language of people here in India compared to the Education program in US. I hope you understand this. We all are working for a common goal ie free knowledge, so can you please be a bit more lenient and patient and all issues will be resolved. I recognize you contribution to the IEP and all the help you have provided us, I just ask you to be a bit more lenient and understand the complication we are going through. Thank you. Feel Free to leave me a message. Mihir.khatwani ( talk) 19:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it is quite fair to accuse us of bullying and jiving. The en.Wiki may have millions of 'editors', but the number of volunteers who are truly dedicated to Wikipedia is actually quite small, especially when it comes to those who not only contribute their own articles, but who also spend huge amounts of time on maintenance tasks. The problem is that we are already overstretched with these tasks, and at the best of times we have around 7 to 10 people to check over 1,000 new pages that arrive here every day of the week. As you probably know, some of us are collaborating closely with the WMF to develop a new user interface for new users to make it easier for them to edit and get it right. At the same time, we are also working hard on new systems to improve our handling of those new pages. However, these developments do not happen overnight and many members of the community feel that the IEP is either ill timed, or ill prepared, and this means that we simply do not have the resources to be as helpful as you would like us to be. Nevertheless, we are doing our best, and some of that 'best' is not only locating the IEP pages that need attention, but also to help the WMF understand that this is a real problem. If you take a close look at the comments above in this thread (and the many discussions that I have already archived), you will see that rather than criticising the individual students or poor quality, we are having to provide some evidence that the project needs more understanding of the isues associated with it. The problem is not one of quality, it is one of insufficient understanding of the core policy of copyvio, and seeing students simply recreating the same articles that have already been deleted, or not looking to see if an article on that topic already exists. We are according the same degree of control over the IEP articles as we do to any other, and certainly without any bad faith. However, we have had the rules and policies of Wikipedia drummed into us - especially those of us who have gone through the very difficult and sometimes unpleasant process to become administrators. Without the volunteers and admins who control and process new pages, there would be no Wikipedia, no WMF, and no IEP, and it is fair to expect that when new projects of this magnitude are launched, some plans should have been made for the inevitable cleaning up. I believe the WMF is now taking this very seriously, and I have offered any help I can, but my personal help is not on cleaning up the individual IEP pages - my main work as an volunteer here is to contribute my own articles, and help develop new aids for newcomers and give them a boost. One tool that is indispensable for campus ambassadors is the duplication detector, and there are many other tricks of the trade for identifying problem articles, but we have not been asked to train the CAs, and we believed they would have already received adequate instruction before the project began. I am open to any suggestions as to how I can be of personal help in this respect and how I can offer my own experience of Wikipedia, and of working in education in Asia for for almost 13 years now. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 13:35, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
P.S. Instead of just telling me the name of tools like the duplication detector, can you not also provide me the link, will make my work easier my loads. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debastein1 ( talk • contribs) 14:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
How to detect copyright problems; a few thoughts on the approach to correcting the issueHi. As "Maggie Dennis", I'm a contractor for the Wikimedia Foundation. One of my jobs is to help when issues rise between the WMF and its contractors and volunteers. As a volunteer, I have for several years now put most of my time into cleaning up copyright problems and counseling contributors on how to avoid them. As you can see, this situation kind of bridges my roles. :) I debated which account should speak here, but I decided that this is primarily my perspective as Moonriddengirl. I'm here in that capacity. In terms of how "regular" volunteers of Wikipedia (by which I mean only those who are not involved in the IEP in one way or another) handle this, I'm afraid we run into practical time concerns. Mentorship is fabulous, but it does require time. The culture on English Wikipedia is that typically new page patrollers will flag problems they find in articles so that these problems can be repaired. The template messages that the community has created over the years are intended to explain to newcomers what the problems mean and how they can be fixed. I believe there is some talk underway about how to make the process less intimidating for newcomers, but it'll probably be a while before anything is implemented there. However, we're trying! I created and several contributors have refined Template:Uw-copyright-new, which is a brief explanation of copyright policies that can be left for students, whether IEP or otherwise. (Actually, it can be left for anybody, but I created it with students in mind.) Prior to creating the template, I have left similar notes to several students already. I think it's a good idea to use this template with students in the IEP on the first instance of copying. In terms of bots, unfortunately, we no longer have any copyright bots. WMF is working on this, but until something returns, we are limited to manual checks. Duplication detector is a good tool, but it has limitations. You can find it here. It is only usable when you know the source, to see how extensive copying might be. It will not detect all "close paraphrasing", which requires a manual comparison. It is also a little over sensitive at this point. I usually adjust the "minimum number of words" to 4. Otherwise, the only thing we can do is look for phrases that seem particularly striking and put them in a search engine like Google and see if we can get any matches. Wikipedia:Plagiarism#How to find plagiarism outlines the basic approach. One of the free plagiarism detectors I use is [2], but it has some challenges for Wikipedia work. First, it trips on footnotes...it doesn't exclude those from its checks. So you have to take them out of the material you paste in the window. Second, it does not exclude Wikipedia mirrors (that may be using older content) or even Wikipedia itself. :) Third, like the duplication detector, it can't find all "close paraphrasing" issues. Fourth, it does not check Google books. Kudpung, I'm sorry if you're feeling frustrated by all this. Putting on my liaison hat temporarily, I know that the Wikimedia Foundation appreciates all you've done to help highlight the issues, so that they (and we, the community) can work to find solutions. WMF can't work quite as quickly as Wikipedia itself does, but they are pursuing this with all speed. There is, for example, a conference set up for it tomorrow. You can also read some conversation at meta:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation - India Programs/Education Program. Debastein1, I'm sorry if you've felt attacked by people linking the problem to the education system. :( I don't think this is meant to offend. Copyright problems can and do come from all over the world. We do see higher incidences of them in some areas, though, and I know that in a government study now about 10 years old, public familiarity with copyright laws in India were found to be low. I know that the government has taken great strides to counter that, but it can take considerable time to effect culture-wide change, and college age students from many countries face difficulties. I know that in the United States younger students are usually rewarded for memorizing what their teachers tell them are facts. In a way, they are trained to parrot others. As they get older, they are expected to transition away from this, but they aren't always properly trained to do that. I have had many a frustrating session with college students who seem completely baffled by the whole idea of "paraphrasing". On Wikipedia, this is particularly complicated because contributors are warned that they must also avoid original research. This is a tough combination for some. :) In other words, those who are suggesting that India may be more prone to copyright problems than some other areas are not necessarily wrong, and they are not necessarily intending to attack India. I suspect that they are simply trying to grasp the parameters of the problem so we can work out how to repair it. It may be worth exploring if there is a specific cultural element, as this can help us tailor our approach. Kupung, I am sorry for occupying so much of your page. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC) |
Good call regarding the Xavier College article. You were unusually prescient when we spoke about that a couple of months ago.
I'm starting to think that it might be worthwhile exploring our options with school articles a little bit more. School articles are frequent targets of vandalism, mainly from idiotic teenagers. It is almost never the case that I look over my watchlist and find that there hasn't been a school article vandalised. Exacerbating the issue is the relative lack of editors active on school articles relative to other vandalism-prone areas of wikipedia (i.e., music, politics or geography).
Where it isn't vandalism, it's an issue of WP:NPOV and particularly WP:COI (e.g., Craigmore Christian School, where there have been a couple of little editing back-and-forths with the principal of the school.
Maybe, then, this is the opportunity to think a little bit more about my stance on protection which is that all school articles should be semi-protected indefinitely. At the very least, I think that there should be looser criteria for protecting school articles against other articles. What are your thoughts before I waste time thinking about it any further? ˜ danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:57, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
There's a rather petulant dynamic IP spamming the living daylights out of my talkpage. If you are currently online, some administrative intervention would be appreciated; it is very late (early?) where I am, and I'd like to get some sleep without having my talk torn to shreds whilst I slumber. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 07:40, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for your suggestion regarding The_Origins_of_Political_Order. I did not think anyone would read it for quite some time. Could you please suggest how to meet appropriate standards? It was only meant as a stub with just the reference to the book itself. I added ISBN and then saw that you kindly read and suggested that it be improved somehow. I just do not know how, and was hoping someone else would. The book merits the attention. DanielDemaret ( talk) 11:43, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I think the book qualifies to be included judging numbers sold. This week it ranks 4,956 on Amazon, which should mean it sells a minimum of 15,000 copies per week, which is ok for a pretty academic subject by a professor. I know I am a lousy editor. I am more from the science/engineer/cyberworld part of the world, rather than the arts. That is what I love about having 3,000,000 other editors that can help me out here :) DanielDemaret ( talk) 11:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I read the Wikipedia:Notability (books) that newpaper articles about the book might be enough so I added a few external references to some reviews, hoping that this would be enough. Is it? By the way, was the delete-sign added by a bot? It hit while I was editing the first draft, and few things are as fast as a bot. DanielDemaret ( talk) 12:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
You have both been most kind and helpful. I shall read your suggestions and take the time to digest it. I just wrote down the article off the top of my head from memory over a lunch break. Making a half decent article will take me a lot longer. DanielDemaret ( talk) 19:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I unblocked PeerReviewBot - the bot will archive any peer review that is older than 14 days and has not yet received any comments. PR is really backlogged and so some requests have been taking longer than 14 days, which is what happened to yours. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 12:04, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
PS Might I suggest that the next time you block a bot you leave a message on the operator's talk page? Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 12:07, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Please have a look over this article, Case of arakcheev and khudyakov.I have placed a Nominate for deletion tag,which means,everyone has a right to join in the discussion.I think this might be a complete hoax.As a Google search mentions nothing and it I suggest it should be moved to Wikinews if this is current.Please give your opinion. Dipankan001 ( talk) 12:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi! I've been tangling with a copyright violation at Story-driven modelling and I'm trying to handle it without exacerbating the issue. The text was deleted last night per G12 then replace this morning with the copyvio still present. An interesting IP, 203.197.87.94 ( talk · contribs) has now removed all of the copyright text, leaving a stub. The text is fine now but there's no indication of importance. I see two problems, one is that the copyrighted text is still found in the history and two, the notability of the subject isn't established without the copyvio text (if it ever was). Rather than mark the article for A7 or take it to AfD which might cause more problems than good, I thought you might have suggestion.
Also, I got your email. I've been reading through the related articles and essays. I'll take some time to consider the idea and I'll let you know what I think. OlYeller Talktome 15:36, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Bioscrypt Inc. is the global market leader in biometrics. It deserves space on Wikipedia as most it is the biggest company which has commercialized biometrics for consumers. I have nothing to do with this company, but I saw another article for another player in this market called Suprema Inc. How come, they can have their page but Bioscrypt cannot? Also, the references are not company links, they are third party websites. Infact, one link is Industry Canada profile page by the Government of Canada. Bioscrypt is in top 50 fastest growing companies in Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhinavcambridge ( talk • contribs) 16:09, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung!
I've just created a page, Jim Lanzone, and noticed that you have tagged it as needing primary sources. I've included a number of outside references to where I gathered the information. Which content in general do you feel needs extra citation? I'd be happy to gather any extra info you feel is lacking.
Thanks for your help!
Roger O. Thornhill 17:07, 17 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RogerOthornhill ( talk • contribs)
Hello,
I noticed the refimprove tag you placed on the article
Aham. Since this is a 1992 film, it is very difficult to find a lot of reference links. I added the IMDB link already for verifying the credibility of the article. Most of the links available for the film leads to the film or songs downloads or You-Tube links. Please advise how to improve such articles for films which are 20 years or older, when Internet was not so popular, especially in India (
Kerala)? I will be updating the article with Infobox, DVD cover, plot summary, songs-list etc.
Anish Viswa
07:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry I have no idea. I am not putting a {{ sub}} on them because in most cases there is not a lot more info to be had. One though though, does the algorithm look for <ref></ref> pairs (because I am using the {{ sfn}})? -- PBS ( talk) 07:16, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
I am as keen as you on policing the Pune projects stuff but I feel you have been a bit hard on Sachin ghode ( talk · contribs). Knuckle joint (mechanical) seems to me a totally valid stub and mechanical joint is even in User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Mechanics. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 10:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Dear Kudpung - you're fast! You're perfectly entitled to raise a conflict of interest - I am the current Headmaster of Moreton Hall. However, I'm not marketing the school as such, I'm merely contributing a factual account of the school's identity and history. Given the existence of other school pages on Wikipedia I'd like to contend that I'm simply redressing an inequity: Moreton Hall Preparatory School exists and has as much of a right to a mention. Clearly this is my first foray so I apologise for any unwitting blunders, but hope the article can stand for now, giving me a chance to fill a small gap oin the encyclopedia. Thank you Simon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.134.126.77 ( talk) 11:22, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Done. See Moreton Hall (Suffolk). I'll add more to it tomorrow. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:09, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
I am not very good at this wiki service. please help me prove the swift & safe security wiki page or if you could please update it as you are a professional.
thanks & Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.134.117 ( talk) 13:34, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Kudpung, just asking you something, if there is blatant copyvios from a blog then what criterion should I put it under speedy deletion because G12 won't exactly suffice cause, the blog may not have copyright protection, however blogs are not acceptable references. Are there any templates specific to this copyvio under bad reference problem, or do I just nominate it under G12?? Please revert back as soon as possible.
Debastein1 (
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"Lets make this world a better and more informative place"
20:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung, I wanted your thoughts on if this is a good idea;
Go to User talk:1966batfan#Homework 4. Scroll down to where it says something like "2. 1. Go to Special:NewPages". Read the part after that.
It appears that these instructions may be getting pasted to all of the adoptees of User:Fltyingpig, of whom there are at least three so far, and presumably going to be many more.
The instructions get some of the important ideas across, but I'm wondering if the level of information being provided in these lessons/instructions is enough for people to be going right ahead and patrolling new pages, even if they're only going to be doing three pages each?
(Maybe they'll do a lot more than three, if they like it.)
Fltyingpig is very responsive to feedback, and is currently fixing some other concerns I had about their adoption program. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 01:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks again Kudpung, for helping me out by giving me the pointers while looking out for copyvios. I have been patrolling the pages created by the users of the
IEP. I have been mainly going through the classes assigned to me. I do have my exams coming up, so I shall be a bit inactive. Once, they are over, I shall again resume my patrolling. I have kept a log of the pages I have sent for speedy deletion
here. I hope this eases the burden that the users like you along with community is facing. Am trying my very best. Thanks for all the help and the hard work you put in everyday. I really feel inspired by the level of effort you put in. Hope one day I too can become an Administrator and defend Wikipedia like you do. If you have any issues whatsoever, feel free to revert back to me.
Debastein1 (
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"Lets make this world a better and more informative place"
17:42, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung, this is Survir. Can you please protect the following pages List of programs broadcast by Zee TV and List of programs broadcast by Imagine TV. The following IP user User:109.148.210.232 constantly vandalizing these pages by adding made up/hoax names of television series to the current/former shows list (the shows that never aired on these channels). He/she is also transfering shows list of one channel to another channel. By the way, the IP address changes every few days. I have reverted so many times but he/she keeps adding false information to these plus many other articles (you can view the list edited by this user by clicking on the IP address). Please help! I will be really thankful to you! Your friend Survir ( talk) 00:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Apologies! My only intention was to speedily remove the page - not to frighten the newcomer. I see have you have already informed the account holder that he/she has made a mistake. I will write self-typed responses to this type of issue in the future. Thanks for pointing this out. Touch Of Light ( talk) 02:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
I guess I'm just slow then... by a month... :-( Maxim (talk) 19:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung,
I've put this up for discussion at AfD, per our conversation on my talkpage the other day. Just thought you'd like to know. Cheers, Yunshui ( talk) 23:49, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung,
Philippe mentioned that you were looking for someone who could help you run a regression on some RfA data. Has that request been resolved, or are you still waiting? I might be able to help. If you email me the data, I should have something for you in a day or two :) Maryana (WMF) ( talk) 02:01, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung, I hope you're well. My name is Aaron and I'm one of the Storytellers working on the 2011 fundraiser here at the Wikimedia Foundation. For this year's campaign we're seeking out and interviewing active Wikipedians like yourself, in order to produce a broader and more representative range of "personal appeals" to run come November. If you'd like to participate in this project, please email me at amuszalskiwikimedia.org. Interviews are typically conducted by phone or Skype and take between 30-90 minutes. Thanks! Aaron (WMF) ( talk) 21:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung. I've been patrolling from the end of the queue, but notice that if someone has moved, redirected, or deleted a page before marking it patrolled, it stubbornly remains in the list (as a blue link) and there doesn't seem to be any way of fixing it. 3 examples from the end of the queue: Bisection Method, Design of Keys and shafts, Structural Modeling. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 11:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
I am notifying you that I have copied the first (above) template from you to my talk page. Dipankan001 ( talk) 15:09, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for notifying me about that! Dipankan001 ( talk) 07:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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Any idea why deleted pages aren't disappearing from the end of the NPP backlog? I can't mark them as aptrolled, and they're filling up my screen with clicked-on links! Pesky ( talk … stalk!) 11:15, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hello Kudpung,
We haven't formally met. I'm
Arjun Mangol Kanoth, and am the onsite CA for the
Machine Drawing and Computer Graphics class under the IEP. I've been acting on your messages about certain problems that arise out of our class, on IEP and other talkpages, though I never spoke on Wiki about it. This message is just to say that if you have any queries or find any problems with my class, I'm the one to contact. And yes, I'm now helping the users working on
Electric Steam Boiler and
Boiler design, will sort out the problems ASAP. And I apologise if you found any ineptitude on my part, managing 173 students from two different classes was no mean task. There is a lax in editing at present due to
Diwali holidays here. If we step in now, it gives us time to review everything and identify problems we have missed, so after this, editing will be a much smoother process, or so I hope.
Cheers!
--
The Mangol (
talk)
02:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm aware that you don't use IRC that much, but do you know if there's a specific IRC channel for NPP, where NP patrollers can discuss what they're doing and ask for advice? ขอบคุณ Sp33dyphil © • © 05:15, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
You templated the wrong person. You warned the person who tagged it for deletion instead of the creator. Ladyof Shalott 07:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
hi , i am new to this wiki thing
as i was writing my article on Philip Micahel wolfson you deleted it. i understand my mistake but i can't update the file because of your deletion..
11:35, 24 October 2011 Kudpung (talk | contribs) deleted "Philip Michael Wolfson" (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement: of http://www.wolfsondesign.com/press/2011/FORMS%20Q%20BOOK%202011web.pdf (Duplication Detector report))
ChrisRidout ( talk) 12:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Kudpung, the legal team cleared the survey hours ago, hence why I've asked Snottywong to fire up the ion flux capacitors. Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 02:38, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
The Special Barnstar | |
Thanks for making the article for me :) Lordsunkel ( talk) 09:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC) |
Thank you! If you need any help on German bands 1974 - 1989, don't hesitate to ask. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 09:34, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
So I just saw your criteria, and your criteria disallows reformed vandals from years ago, and/or a wrong templating. I suggest from changing it to "No well placed warnings on vandalism in the past 6 months". ~~
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10:42, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
I recently wrote an article on COGEN Europe and saw that you gave it an advertisement tag. I modified it a bit since then, but maybe not enough. Since I am new to writing for wikipedia I was thinking that maybe you could briefly (don't want to take up to much of your time) tell me what you thought was wrong....or maybe just an example of what struck you as bias.
Thank you in advance for your reply Bogdan 007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bogdan 007 ( talk • contribs) 11:12, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the fast reply. I can see why you might have tagged it as an advertisement. The problem, is that the organisation is actually spelled with capital letters :). I'll try and use pronouns more and maybe refer to it by its longer name. With regard to the sources, I though I had quite a few secondary sources compared to other articles on similar sized organisations. I'll take a second look at it anyway.
Cheers Bogdan 007 ( talk) 12:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 12:19, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey its me again the guy with the COGEN page.... look I've been really banging my head on how to rewrite the article, gave it a few days but I can't really think of a way in which to radically alter the way its written. It really just describes what the organisation is doing and the only reason I mentioned some specific dossiers or report was in order to achieve notability.
Anyway I did adjust it a little, deleting a sentence in which I said that the organisations aims to assure the interest of its members.... and changed the last paragraph a bit....and of course as previously mentioned made more use of pronouns. Not a radical makeover as previously mentioned.
With regard to notability, I think I covered it better than other articles that are out there on wikipedia. I know the publications are all European, but this is where the organisation conducts its activities. I have a reference from Euractiv - reference No. 8 (a very reliable an well known source) which is an interview with the managing director of Cogen Europe. I also have a reference from the European Commission which outlines one of their reports (reference No. 21) and also a few from COSPP (Cogeneration and onsite power production) - an important publication in this field - which emphasize their activities. I could have given more, but then would have had to mention more of their activities.....and apparently the article already says to much about them :).
Just a final note, I used the Friends of Europe ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Europe) article as a model (because it is a similar size organisation), and I don't see much difference in that article's tone and the one I wrote, and with regard to notability, mine covers it a bit better I think.
Sorry fur such a long message, but I just wanted to argue my case a bit better. If you still don't see fit to remove the advert tag or to sorta tell me specifically what bothers you about it, then I really hope that some other users out there will help me out more on this.
Thanks again for your time Bogdan 007 ( talk) 09:13, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Kudpung. I've recently started patrolling pages via NPP instead of just through filters (special page tags). So far, it seems to take me about an average of 4 minutes to assess and treat an article. I have noticed that some editors are taking 10 to 12 seconds to assess and treat an article. That seems sort of alarming to me. Is there any sort of common time it takes experienced patrollers to assess a page. Also, is there an average amount of patrol time that is too short? I'm worried that these other editors that do five pages in one minute may be causing more problems than they're solving. I know you're experienced in patrolling so I thought I'd ask you.
Also, if you have any suggestions for me outside of what I've read at WP:NPP, please let me know. OlYeller21 Talktome 22:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Glad my review was helpful. I think it would be a lot of work, but I do not see getting the Old Malvernians list to FL as impossible. What part do you see as impossible? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:16, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I go thru Recently created biographies of living people everyday and do an assortment of stuff to the articles via AWB. On some of the article, I manually add a Prod, go over the article for nobility, etc. Is there an easy way to mark the those articles patrolled? Bgwhite ( talk) 08:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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If World class manufacturing was a blatant copyright violation, is not the creator's user page just as bad? WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 18:32, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I guess you made a mistake here. You moved this sanbox from main space to another main space ( Chaitanya.gayke/Sandbox). I guess you wanted to move it to User:Chaitanya.gayke/Sandbox? — Abhishek Talk 08:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
I removed the prod tag you placed on Mark Sukhija, as the article creator's (inappropriate) use of the {{hangon}} tag and the message left on the talk page indicates that deletion is not uncontroversial. I did this only in the interest of WP:AGF; I have no opinion one way or the other on the merits of deletion. Please consider opening an AfD if you still wish to pursue deletion. Thanks! — KuyaBriBri Talk 13:47, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
In case you are not informed, the following is a link to the complete list of students of the IEP.
Sorry I haven't been of much help lately. Debastein1 ( talk) 11:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
If you have read my responses to you recent message on my talk page, you will have seen that I said "I think they (user pages) shouldn't be (Google indexed), but they are". Since then I have remembered that someone or other once pointed out to me that there are actually some advantages in having them indexed. For example, sometimes the following happens. I see an article which looks like a likely copyright infringement, so I do a Google search for some of its content. Google throws up both the original page that it's a copyvio of and a user page with the same content, which would otherwise have escaped notice. I am sure have come across other circumstances too where this is an advantage, but that's the one that comes to mind now. So there are, I think, both pros and cons. JamesBWatson ( talk) 19:34, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm confused, I was never involved with Access Denied. Secret account 06:31, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
I still don't see the link, but sounds sensible enough. Thanks Secret account 06:49, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
The Articles for Creation barnstar | ||
For your long and true comment at mw:Talk:Article_creation_workflow#MoodBar_comments mabdul 15:52, 29 October 2011 (UTC) |
Thank you Mabdull, that's very kind of you :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Kudpung, I've just politely declined an article by 'Piano' at AfC. I see that this was the second attempt by the same user today. I don't know what was in the first one, but if the second is identical then ... I thought you ought to know. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 13:58, 30 October 2011 (UTC)