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Click this link, and go do something else. You need it. giggy ( :O) 01:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
since the world appears to have imploded after I went off line yesterday. Listening to sports radio on the way in this morning and they're talking about the All Star ballots and what not. This wasn't local sports radio so we can't blame it on NY non-knowledge but Joe Mauer's new name is apparently "Moo-er". They compared him with other Minnesota unpronouncables, including Hrbek and Chuck Knoblauch, neither of whom I found to be unpronouncable. TravellingCari the Busy Bee 12:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Wait, you know what else annoys me? The amount of paternity leave that American men get. Because the amount is zero. We get zero additional days for the birth of a child. Meanwhile, Tony Blair gets a few weeks off from being the leader of Britain. Gwynand | Talk• Contribs 13:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
OKAY, I'm gonna give this a go here. One big fat reply :-) I like the new coldplay song. Moo-er is leading the allstar balloting for catchers, no small feat for a " minor league team". His name is way easier to say than Dugmen-CAVE-itch. Gwynand, you must be going out of your mind, I feel for ya brother. The first few days' diapers are the worst, it's called Meconium and your wife will be layed up in a hosp. bed and you'll hafta dig in Warning! If you have a weak stomach or a strong gag reflex, that blue link has truly awful pictures... Dusti? A Ball State man? Somehow, that seems appropriate. Enjoy your walking. Xeno, I don't get the "fuckshit" comment or what its referring to, but thanks for fixing the header. Also, parental leave is overrated. You do realize babies cry all the freekin time right? W(hy)TH would I wanna stay home? I very much enjoyed leaving the house. (I don't mean this to sound as sexist as it probably does - my wife and equal partner enjoys leaving the house too. We are getting much better about not both leaving at the same time :-) Whew! Think I got em all. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I took this to ANI, but they seem to be running slow today on reading, and the actual post was made at AIV, I really kinda wish I was an Admin in this type of situation....Here's the link [1] Dusti SPEAK!! 15:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Dear Keeper 76, You gave me an "A7" Deletion for 'not a notable bio' and 'real person'. I submitted the article "David Crais" due to the fact that I have received media attention through several articles, radio reports, and television interviews I have been asked to appear on lately. While I'm not Bill Gates, or even Paris Hilton, I am somewhat of a public figure...in a tiny, tiny way. I tried to included mulitple third party published references in my article. Of course, others can put whatever they'd like in the content. I just wanted to provide what I could, the good, bad, and ugly. It is not a self promoting piece. I just provided a bio as written by a third party. The reference links I put in the article I just copied from a Google search (maybe some would say a 'vanity search') and listed several of articles written about me from regional and national newspapers and other publications. Please consider this and restore the article. Although not written in your prefered three lines and seventeen syllables, I would appreciate your consideration on this. Regards, DCraiss ( talk) 16:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
DCraiss ( talk) 16:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, would you take a second look at your close, please? The DMB mess has been cleaned up but the original article that was proposed for deletion, was moved to Skybox (band), and this still needs to be dealt with (I would argue that the case has been made for deletion). TerriersFan ( talk) 17:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me, but why did you delete my refinement of the Caillou entry? I changed the entry regarding his father Boris from "He is silly" to "He is a buffoon" as per this definition:
buf·foon Audio Help /bəˈfun/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buh-foon] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a person who amuses others by tricks, jokes, odd gestures and postures, etc.
I watch the show every day with my son, and as such am more than qualified to make this adjustment. Get off of your high horse. My definition is more accurate. Have you sat through hundreds of hours of the same Caillou footage over and over again? I think not. I'm changing it back. Learn how to use a dictionary.
Nick Myers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.121.4 ( talk) 20:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
This, I'm personally satisfied that that's enough of an apology, given that Joe's happy with it.
Feel free to delete this once you've read it (it's a pain you not enabling email...) – iride scent 01:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) I'll also go along with Sandy's point about "file this away but if you ever do anything like this again ...", but, like Malleus, I do think he needs to show by his words and actions, that he can be trusted, which means fulfilling his promise made during is RfA to make himself open to recall. Furthermore, I think the criteria and process adopted should be scrutinized to see whether there is a reasonable chance that any repeat of this recent behaviour could result in a successful bid to remove his tools (i.e., no overly elaborate and restrictive criteria or process.) DDStretch (talk) 08:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Ohai. I just thought you would find it interesting for you to read this. I'll be on a wikibreak, so you may not get a reply for a few days. Cheers, RyRy5 ( talk) 10:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I was going to update the Johnny Cooper aka John Robert Cooper article and the page was deleted with no notice.
I feel that I have been diligent in following various criteria.
His page was in the biography project. I had previous discussions along the way with others on Wiki and all seemed right.
Please advise me so that I can work toward restoration of the article.
Thank you Sharonbrain2 Sharonbrain2 ( talk) 22:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I've userfied the deleted page at User:Sharonbrain2/Johnny Cooper (musician) following discussion with Sharon - I've asked her to refer back to you once her rework is finished before moving it back to article space. Hope that's ok Fritzpoll ( talk) 00:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for the feedback and the opportunity. The Johnny Cooper article is my first full Wikipage and will raise the bar. Most of the info was from interviews with family, other musicians (one recently passed away), and various venues where he has played. I have various press & media to work from and also will follow the WP:Music info to be sure that all is noted for evidence. This past friday, most recent press from record company, Smith Records has released that his song "Texas To You" will be the season theme song for the Dallas Cowboys in the 08-09 season. Also, they noted that the Texas Rangers team is using the same song as well. Appreciate the feedback! Baby steps..... Cheers Sharonbrain2 ( talk) 03:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I forgot to ask if I have a deadline to complete the article? What if someone else starts a Johnny Cooper page while I am in process of rewrite?
Be of Good Cheer Sharonbrain2 ( talk) 14:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I apologise for the earlier conflict here. Perhaps we can reach some agreement on such debate? Cheers, and good morning (etc.). :-) -- Mizu onna sango15/ Discuss 14:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC).
After I did the archiving, its.....blank :( Dusti SPEAK!! 15:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, basically, I've been thinking about standing for RfA for quite a while, and I have asked a few people what they thought about my chances of surviving it intactpassing. Unfortunately, I still have no idea how the community would react to a candidate whose main contribution to this project is roughly 40000 Huggle reverts/warnings/aiv and whose sole major contribution to the article space is getting a barely start class article to an "almost" GA. (
John Rutledge, in case you're interested)
From what I can see, you despise Huggle (or at the very least, you despise the way 99.9999....% of people are using it) Most of the people who commonly "stalk" this page also share a similar view.
I have had someone offer to nominate me in a few weeks, and I guess I just wanted to see if you think that my RfA would be:
To avoid the risk of TL:DR, here is my question in a nutshell:
Do you think there is any chance I could conceivably pass an RfA solely on my present merits? J.delanoy gabs adds 15:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
You could say that your page isn't a blog, either, which really it is. And it's a good thing, a place for us all to chat and run ideas by a group of people we know and trust. You've been different lately, dude, what's up? Way shorter fuse, snappy, dismissive... Tan | 39 16:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
*Keeper trouts Keeper*
Now now, no self-trouting allowed. Life happens. Feel free to tell us to shut up and go away, we'll mostly listen and be here when you want company again. TravellingCari the Busy Bee 18:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
don't worry about it. I do apologize for using your talk page to solicit comments from a wider range of people. I should have just asked your talk page stalkers on their talk pages. J.delanoy gabs adds 18:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
<--I have had several bizarre threads on my talkpage. Today's are just plain surreal. What a strange little section of my soon to be bloated archive this will be... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:36, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
...because of this? I figured that such a potentially dangerous tool really needed maintenance. (ducks) Fritzpoll ( talk) 21:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
<-Fritz, remember the good ol' days when WP:N/CA was the most contentious and attention gathering thing on your plate? Sigh. Everyone reading this, make sure Fritz gets lots of support/backup/whiskey. Don't wanna lose him. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
← And to Fritzpoll! Hope this doesn't discourage you (Huggle will die w/out you or Gurch...), but we do have a huge pile of bugs that need fixing here and some more here that don't show up on the first link. There are some pretty major ones that Gurch never got around to fixing when he was around, and a bunch he made by not testing 0.7.11 before giving it to Addshore and the rest of wiki-world... please test your versions before releasing... Calvin 1998 ( t- c) 04:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Since I apparently cannot yet live without it, I've created a sockpuppet. Since I couldn't pretend for five edits to be someone else, I don't even try. You may also be interested in this RfCU I've filed about myself. I'm hoping that all those people will get the piled-up criticism about me out of their systems, and maybe there will be even more than just senseless bashing (although I have to admit I'm skeptical after that AN clusterfuck). So if you decide to comment there, I'd appreciate it if you did it with the valid aspects of others' criticism in mind. Everyme (was Dorftrottel) ( talk) 10:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
<--Some thoughts. Dorftrottel, (I just finally got to spelling that right dammit I ain't about to switch just yet), I found it a good hoot how many of those diffs from Postlethwaite fell into four categorys: 1.Something to do with LGRdC/Kurt + RFA. 2.Something to do with your opinions on inclusionism/inclusionists/"trivia in general", 3.Something to do with Screambox that I seemed to be involved in(the irony is thick, I know), or 4.Something to do with fucking your wife/girlfriend. Many if not most are linked at RFC out of context. However, the one directed at Postlethwaite (second from bottom) you should apologize for, it is obvious to me at least that you were just lashing out. Whether that's really your opinion or not is irrelevant, it went too far. The one at Naerii (you're an asshole, not an idiot) was over the top to me as well, and even though Naerii's response said "I agree", you had no way of knowing that's how (s)he'd respond. The comments about "switching names and making it hard to track you down" are a bit of a stretch, as you've been completely open about who you are and what you're former accounts did/didn't do correctly leading to blocks. You've done nothing wrong as far as I'm concerned regarding being open v. being elusive. That claim has no merit. Even this new everyme account is linked directly to your IP/former accounts when it certainly doesn't have to be. I applaud you for your openness in that regard as I find it to be the mature thing to be. So all this to say (I won't be editing the RFC directly unless it gets too ridiculous), here's my advice, in a nutshell. WP:DEBF and WP:DEDE. Don't Edit Before Fucking, and Don't Edit During Euros. Also, for the love of God Most Holy avoid Kurt and LeGrande (and now, apparently RP). They bother you. We get it. You bother them too. It's a big wiki. You told me once before (I'll find a diff if need be) that you'd stop "responding" to them at RFA/AFD, and you've started to migrate back towards doing that I'd noticed. Let me know when you want the RFC that you started on yourself (mostly for attention perhaps?) deleted so we can all move along pleasantly and singing Kumbaya together. Oh, and I'm hoping your new account gets a userpage as topnotch as Dorftrottel's was - one of the best on here (and not just because I was quoted on it...:-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure why my page was deleted while I was in the middle of constructing it. I was working to learn how to cite things properly (I have Reuters articles as well as other writings of interest to the business community (Hedgeweek, Business Week), and while I did that my page was deleted. I am trying to prove notibility, but wasn't given the chance. What should I be doing so that my work isn't deleted while I am trying to be compliant? Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it! Lonbam ( talk) 20:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)lonbam
I'm moving in with my girlfriend on Saturday, and we can't sort out the internet until we get there so I'll be reduced to doing it at work. What's a good template for this (the moving/no internet, not the girlfriend part)? Fritzpoll ( talk) 20:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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The other definition of buffoon carries a derogatory tone, and you know it.
Well, the "primary" and "secondary" definitions of the common word "silly" ARE no doubt derogatory, which, as an editor of an encylopedia, you should be familiar with.
Maybe not silly and definitely not buffoon?
What are you basing this on? You certainly didn't formulate your argument using a juxtapositional comparison of the actual definitions of the words in question. You clearly used something rather subjective, which is generally problematic when you are trying to convey nuanced objective meaning. While your argumention style is heavy on the rhetorical pathos, it lacks any trace of logical rigor, which is more substantial, especially when it comes to convincing the audience of a puportedly accurate encylopedia regarding word choice. Granted, calling Caillou's father "silly" rather than "a buffoon" is not the end of the world, but it is something that needs to be addressed on principle, nonetheless.
How does using a word that is wholly MORE accurate (buffoon vs. silly) and wholly LESS derogatory appear to you to be the opposite? Knee-jerk removals benefit no one.
silly---->buffoon
sil·ly /ˈsɪli/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sil-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, -li·er, -li·est, noun, plural -lies. –adjective 1. weak-minded or lacking good sense; stupid or foolish: a silly writer. 2. absurd; ridiculous; irrational: a silly idea. 3. stunned; dazed: He knocked me silly. 4. Cricket. (of a fielder or the fielder's playing position) extremely close to the batsman's wicket: silly mid off. 5. Archaic. rustic; plain; homely. 6. Archaic. weak; helpless. 7. Obsolete. lowly in rank or state; humble. –noun 8. Informal. a silly or foolish person: Don't be such a silly.
buf·foon /bəˈfun/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buh-foon] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a person who amuses others by tricks, jokes, odd gestures and postures, etc. 2. a person given to coarse or undignified joking.
or
buf·foon Audio Help (bə-fōōn') Pronunciation Key n. 1. A clown; a jester: a court buffoon. 2. A person given to clowning and joking. 3. A ludicrous or bumbling person; a fool.
Now you tell me which is more derogatory and which is more appropriate to the character Boris. Note that the tertiary definition of the SECOND listed entry for "buffoon" is the only remotely derogatory one, whereas the primary and secondary definitions for the word "silly" are of a markedly more derogatory and inappropriate nature. I think my argument has been more than cogent. Based on the supplied arguments and knowledge of the character, Boris is CLEARLY a "buffoon", and is comparatively less "jocular" and even less so "silly".
BTW - Boasting about liking spectator sports while simultaneously deriding a child's television viewing choices is unnecessary and somewhat pathetic. No offense.
To Kek - I agree, if the defiitions were accurate. Any teacher worth her salt would make sure that her students understood the formal definitions of proposed word usage prior to actual usage(especially in a publicly-oriented educational setting), over perceived definition and its subsequent usage and the repercussions of said usage.
Thanks,
Nick Myers
source: www.dictionary.com
25 June 2008, Sound Beach, NY
Is Caillou that cartoon with the little girl who has cancer? Gwynand | Talk• Contribs 22:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Family Guy is my new favorite cartoon - used to be Simpsons. 72.92.4.157 ( talk) 22:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
For you British folks - are you familiar with a comedy show "William & Mary"? It was recommended to me and is available here in US via Netflix. Also there is Canadian show called "Trailer Park Boys" (I think) - any Canadians recommend that one? I heard of that through a friend. 72.92.4.157 ( talk) 00:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, if you want seriously warped animation, consider Walt Disney's weirdest cartoon: [7]. This used to be a standard in schools for many years. Ecoleetage ( talk) 00:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I don't know. It appears my choice was the first time a certain "V" word was ever used in a film. Who would have thought Uncle Walt was so salty? Ecoleetage ( talk) 00:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Do you see a pattern?
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Gwynand, you ought run, now! – xenocidic ( talk) 00:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Have you seen it now? There's either a spate of really less qualified candidates or something is up. I don't think I've ever seen that many borderline at a go. TravellingCari the Busy Bee 15:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Wow. So, hi everyone Keeper. This feels a little different to the
last
time we talked. Wonder what's changed... it's definitely not the number of people now watching this page ;). The drama here seems to be hitting a fairly high point at the moment, so I've been taking a back seat and doing stuff I actually enjoy.
This is something I've involved myself in, as well as
some photo work, which is actually pretty good. In case you haven't seen it (and why would you?)
Para has a simply fantastic tool for overlaying coordinates onto Google Maps from any category or article - the results of London are
very cool. Well, that'll do. It was a diversion for me, and hopefully for you and anyone (everyone?) else reading this. Hope you're all good, and still ticking along. All the best,
Alex Muller
12:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
for this. Why are the wackos coming out of the woodwork and landing on my talk? Did you see what happened last night? TravellingCari the Busy Bee 20:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
←Maybe he's only generally known by the single name?
Some
sportsmen
are (clutching at straws here, I know). Re your other question which I only just noticed; removed Xp's Huggle from him and warned Kodster for abusing AWB, both on the same day; all their friends then turned up to offer their full-and-frank opinions and never really went away. I then made the fatal mistake of talking Metros out of indefblocking, which might have been totally against the principles of Wikipedia but would certainly have made life easier. If you mean BG7, I know him from
WP:LT, which for such a small project sure attracts a staggering number of loons; check out the insane argument on their talkpage over whether
or
is a better illustration for "ferry". –
iride
scent
20:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Oppose: Being 12 is prima facie evidence of not being administratively competent. That should go over well. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Yea, I'm ok. A very good friend of mine :-) came over today and we spent the day together. I'll be on later tonight and get the next round done. Dusti SPEAK!! 21:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
but your boys are doing well! Raining in Pittsburgh so I'm watching the Coney Yankeeography. Great memories from the perfect game, which I saw live. Totally forgot that Don Larsen had thrown out the first pitch. TravellingCari the Busy Bee 00:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
This article was speedy deleted by you saying it was an advertisement. Actually the original article was deleted 2 days back which was created by some newbie. I later rewrote it yesterday. This is not the first time I have written a new article. As you can see, I have few DYKs to my credit. Also, as a daily nominator to CSD, I do certainly understand what is encyclopedic and what is a Template:db-spam. I am not writing this all to boast about myself. I just want you to review the deleted article once more and point out which line was written like an advertisement. I agree it is a stub, but surely not an advertisement. -- gppande «talk» 07:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
I came here--at 4 AM--because I wanted you to see this--and then I found that YOU GOT ONE TOO!!!! Oh man. I am past the point of speechlessness at the....OMFG, really, seriously. Um, excuse me.... ENGLISH TEACHER, remember??? lololoFECKINGLOL...I know, I know, I'm typing like a 14-yr-old textmessaging emo-kid but I am SO gobsmacked by this whole line of discussion/whackingly-big SNOTFEST that I've momentarily regressed 24 yrs. Gladys J Cortez 09:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Twitterrific. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 15:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Since you self-proclaim North OF Minneapolis knowledge, can you work on Northstar Corridor :) .:DavuMaya:. 16:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Oops - sorry to nip your conversation in the bud ;-) Actually, RFRBot is down at present, so all RFRs have to be archived manually. It's a pain, but hopefully something will be sorted out soon. — Tivedshambo ( t/ c) 18:03, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
I was surprised to see you jump in on comparing the Arbitration Committee to Nazis. I'm not really sure what you meant by this: "User:Keeper76. In all fairness to the Nazi's, they at least got to have defense lawyers at their trials, or at the very least, knew the trial was in fact happening." Think you can clarify this remark? Normally I expect far more temperate comments from you, so maybe I am misunderstanding or perhaps the gravity of comparing any group of people to Nazis is something you hadn't really considered (even though, I'll grant, it seems to happen a lot on Wikipedia). Avruch 19:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Keeper, I need some help (though some help from any of Keeper's talkpage-stalkers who are sysops would also be appreciated - 'tis kinda like a second ANI here ;P). I, and a number of other editors have been having a lot of trouble with User:Fasach Nua. There was initially a discussion here, on AN, and now the discussion has continued over at ANI. Take a good look at everything cited in both those conversations - this is one of those times when individually, each action is not criminal, but alltogether, the behaviour is very disruptive. There seems to be a number of editors who agree with me - in fact, there don't appear to be any that disagree in either conversation, except of course FN himself. I'm kinda reaching the end of my teather here, and nothing is being done about it. I could of course block him myself, but I've already given him a 24 hour block (which did nothing), and he harked on quite a bit for my blocking him when I was involved. He may have had a point, but no one else was stepping forward. Regardless, nor can I warn him, as he just turns around and calls me a troll. He's just called me a troll for the umpteenth time. Something needs to be done; my hands are tied; nothing is coming of the ANI discussion (I had to pull it out of the archive, for flip's sake) - please help :-/. Talk Islander 12:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Does his behavior concern you, yet? It does me. It looks repeatedly trollish, and I see no evidence of improvement despite repeated blocks. Once again I feel he lacks the fundamental maturity that Wikipedia requires. Friday (talk) 19:10, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
FYI: I've started an ANI thread on Endlessdan. D.M.N. ( talk) 18:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Recently, after granting someone rollback, I've been using User:Keeper76/Rollback, as I think it's a great template to use. Well, I just noticed this. :) Acalamari 01:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
But saw that you dealt with 7deadlysins before, I think that's right... would you (or one of the stalkers who knows what's going on with something like "Genius'" sockpuppeteering) have a look at User talk:Iamthe7DeadlySins. Cheers, Alex Muller 15:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
{{
blockedsock}}
. If someone can check I haven't made a horrible mistake...
Alex Muller
16:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
{{
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on the top of this.
Alex Muller
19:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
[9] Enigma message 16:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
In other news today ....... Dusti SPEAK!! 17:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind looking over my new attempt at a page for Marble Bar Asset Management? I'v started it in my sandbox, as you recommended. I would really appreciate any advice you might have before I start making larger changes. Thank you! Lonbam ( talk) 21:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)lonbam (6/30/08)
Thank you! Your advice is really helpful. I'm going to work on this page more today, and hopefully then it will be ready to go mainstream.
71.166.163.108 (
talk)
13:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)lonbam
Since your a level head, I wanted to get your feelings on an essay I wrote about the arbcom at User:MBisanz/Arbcom and well spamming to this page is more effective than a sitenotice/ANI/watchlist notice put together :) MBisanz talk 21:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
(Undent)I saw the header of this section and the one immediately following and immediately worried you were leaving. This is not ANI, it's KNB (Keeper Notice Board)! TravellingCari the Busy Bee 01:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your beautiful message, which gave me just enough courage to turn the lights off and go to sleep (after 50mg Valium that must be possible), There is a special place in Heaven for people like you, weho take the time to help a stranger in extreme need. God bless you. Your kindness will never be forgotten. Jeffpw ( talk) 23:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for !voting on my RfA. If you supported, I'll make sure your confidence is not misplaced; if you opposed, I'll take your criticism into account and try to adjust my behavior accordingly.
See you around the wiki!-- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 00:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I was referred to you by Giggy for a peer copyedit. Will you please work on the Radio (LL Cool J album) article?
--- Dan56 10:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Keeper76, I got your name from WP:PRV and was wondering if you would have time to copyedit an article I have at peer review right now? If so the article is the Earle Mack School of Law and the current peer review can be found here. If you're too busy right now that's ok, I'm just trying to get this up to GA status sometime within the next month and if you would be willing I would appreciate it. Thanks :) -- ImmortalGoddezz ( t/ c) 15:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
←Heh, sometimes I feel like a loon.. but no, Iridescent is referring to my mention on ED and a particularly persistent user among others. Things have been oddly quiet in the front lately, but who knows how long that's going to last. -- ImmortalGoddezz ( t/ c) 21:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I never said anything you implied in the MfD. The situation is over. Its being let go. I'm disappointed, not fed up or sick of you. I just think you may have gotten a little heated over the situation with the blocking admin, and haven't taken the criteria for deletion (the userpage guideline and policy) and the history of deleting (the MfD archives) these pages into account. I still welcome peaceful and fruitful future conversations with you, but just not about this. With best wishes from — Maggot Syn 09:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I created an account on Test Wiki to see how it was to use the tools. It was pretty cool and I told a friend about it and she wanted to have an account. Created an account for her and promoted her according to policy and was accused of being a sock and was blocked. Interesting huh? I was a 'Crat on there and created a sysop sock :) LOL Dusti SPEAK!! 15:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I didn't know spearfish swam off the coast of Ireland. Imagine that? LOL. Probably unintentionally on your part, but funny nevertheless. I'm going to have green bagels with lox. :) OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 19:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Keeper76, for your support !vote at my RFA. I will be doing my best to make sure that your confidence has not been misplaced. -- lifebaka ( Talk - Contribs) 18:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I hope you won't mind me letting off just a little bit of steam here Keeper, but a few events over recent weeks are bubbling over in my mind.
Most recently, I've just seen that Giano has been given a three hour block for this. Indisputably uncivil, but I was given a 24-hour block for this, only a few weeks ago. Was my alleged disruptive editing 8 times worse than Gianno's alleged incivility? -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 20:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
5 days and you started missing me already! I'm touched! Just really really busy in RL and have been viewing via my blackberry if and when I can. Still likely to be busy until the middle of next week, but thought I'd drop by and confirm I'm alve and User:WifeOfPedro has not, as yet, produced User:SonOrDaughterOfPedro. Any news on the birthing front of one of your other regular stalkers BTW? Pedro : Chat 20:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Keeper, I am writing you in regards to Traden ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Earlier today he made his first ever edit to en.wp here. It was in an AfD and his comment includes a fair knowledge of notability and deletion policy. I suspect him of being a meat/sock of Uponleft ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) based upon this pretty similar !vote. Both accounts have been flagged as SPAs on this AfD. I was referred to you by MBisanz ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I did add the suspected sock tags on their userpages, but they have been removed. Thus, I bring this to your attention. Sincerely, Bstone ( talk) 21:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey there Keeper. I was wondering if It would be good to close the above AfD as a "keep". And admins keep asking me for rollback. :S Yes, I declined them. :) So anyway, should I close it? -- RyRy ( talk) 22:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Comment from my talkpage.
Hi Keeper, I know you ordinarily do not do email because of transparency issues, and I respect that. There is a very serious off-wiki issue I would like to discuss with you. Would you please email me? Thank you, Aleta Sing 22:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I had not been paying attention here after I said "OK", so I didn't see these other suggestions. Thanks. I was able to get help from Raystorm. Wow, this has been a stressful evening. I'm going to go take a hot bath now. (For folks watching this and wondering what it's about, there's now an ANI thread, "Suicidal Wikipedian".) Aleta Sing 01:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that was particularly called for. Jeff made a mistake, I warned him against it, he appologised (unecessarily) to me, blip in behaviour over. I'm sorry, but regardless of underlying circumstances (circumstances that I unfortunatly have first-hand experience in), behaviour like that cannot go without comment. Perhaps I worded my warning a little harshly, but had there been no underlying circumstances, I would have blocked on-sight for a comment like that. As it is, it was an unfortunate blip in behaviour caused by tragic circumstances. Regardless, it's over now. Talk Islander 22:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
(e/c)You're of course right, Islander. I was about to go to your talk and retract (honest!). I overreacted, projecting my own feelings towards what I thought Jeff would be feeling, mixing in my own grief. Jeff has proven to me that he is far more mature than I'll ever be (seeing as I've reached the age where I only grow horizontally not vertically...). Apologies Islander, you meant no harm. And (edit conflict) Sam - if you're really 12, I don't want to see you type "fucking" ever again. Or at least for several years... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your note of concern. While I would have reacted as Aleta did in her position, I am ashamed and embarrassed that so many know I am not made of granite, as I like to come across. I promise you I would never do anything which would make Isaac unhappy. Jeffpw ( talk) 07:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to ask that you look over this, and the page marked for MfD. — Maggot Syn 03:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
We're gonna just use this. Think I'll get guff over it? -- Endless Dan 12:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
'nuff said. -- Avi ( talk) 02:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
what the hell is this, a love in? someone pass out some Social networking barnstars! – xenocidic ( talk) 02:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
In your closure of the AFD you didn't address my primary objection that the AFD had been inappropriately bulked with many other AFDs violating the guidelines for bundling in WP:AFD. I had yet to review some of these articles as I was waiting for the AFDs to be split. Can you please address? Nfitz ( talk) 04:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Ohai Keeper. I just have a question for you. Do you think I should start using rollback again? I know I've greatly improved from about 2 months ago. I've learned more about what vandalism really is and when to use rollback.You can look through some of the threads on my talk page to see for yourself. Someone was literally begging me to use rollback again since they thought I was really ready for it, on IRC that is. 3 other admins offered also ( User:PeterSymonds, User:Useight, and User:Gonzo fan2007) but I declined them saying I wasn't ready. But I just wanted your view of me using rollback again. I know it's really my choice, and I'm the best person to judge when I'm ready for rollback, but you always have something smart to say about it, and I would like your thoughts on it. (and for those "talk page stalkers", feel free to comment also.) -- RyRy ( talk) 15:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
<--- Keeper. Can my public account, User:RyRy Public have rollback too if possible? I want to use that account to test rollback at WP:NAS. -- RyRy ( talk) 19:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
<--I detest IRC. I don't care what anyone says about "publicly available logs" or whatnot, it is just an unnecessary tool. Won't be convinced otherwise. 99% of the conversations there are harmless. The 1% that are harmful make it not worth it. Now you have my opinion on it too RyRy. Whether you're "gunning for RFA" or not, IRC is evil, 1% of the time. Not worth it. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
It's been an interesting day for me here. Sorry I haven't been editing as heavily. Personal life has been interesting latley. Note the change in my userbox. I'm going to AFD now. Dusti SPEAK!! 15:40, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey Keepster...So I was watchlisting along (leap...leap...leap...oh, wait, that's not a watchlist, that's Zoboomafoo) and I found this. And this. Also this. And this, and this, and finally this...all of which were merged/redirected as part of AfDs I started months ago. (The hilarious thing about that is, I was just yesterday cleaning up my watchlist and nearly removed them, thinking "nobody's gonna recreate those NOW...) The consensus was to merge/redirect, and I thought even THAT was a stretch--they're TOTAL cruft. Since you're an admin and all...anything you can do about it? Thanks.... Gladys J Cortez 16:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Daniel Johnston (Consultant). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Maikadal ( talk) 17:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Keeper. Would you mind copyediting 2002 Bou'in-Zahra earthquake--at the FAC, it was said that thee were some misc. rough spots with the text. Your effort would be greatly appreciated. --I'm an Editor of the wiki citation needed 20:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
When you move an article, please remember to check the talk page and make sure templates are updated as well; you left a FAC dangling on the talk page as a red link. [11] I moved the FAC to the new name, and updated the article name on the FAC. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 04:26, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your support in
my recent RfA, which closed successfully. I felt the process was a thorough review of my contributions and my demeanor, and I was very gratified to see how many editors took the time to really see what I'm about and how I can be of help to the project. As a result, some editors changed their views during the discussion, and most expressed specific, detailed points to indicate their opinion (whether it was
,
, or
).
A number of editors were concerned about my level of experience. I was purposeful in not waiting until a particular benchmark occurred before requesting adminship, because I feel - as many do - that adminship is not a reward and that each case is individual. It is true that I am not the most experienced editor around here, but I appreciate that people dug into my contributions enough to reach the conclusion that I seem to have a clue. Also, the best thing about this particular concern is that experience is something an editor - or administrator - can always get more of, and I'll continue doing that, just as I've been doing. (If I seem a little slow at it, feel free to slap me.)
I am a strong believer in the concept that this project is all about the content, and I'm looking forward to contributing wherever I can. Please let me know if I can be of any help. In the meantime, I'm off to school...
Thanks again!
2002 Bou'in–Zahra earthquake—OK, I'm wondering whether each item was originally a region, and has come together to form the name of a village that has ownership of both regions ... or what? An en dash is quite specific in application. But I'm unsure. Double names are normally, although not exclusively, subject to a hyphen instead.
But definitely wrong are your changes to en dash of items such as "southwest–dipping thrust" and "multiple–even location". Have you read MOS on en dashes and hyphens? TONY (talk) 15:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
evidence obtained by the prosecution, to be shown to the defendants. :) Rudget ( logs) 18:23, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
<--Maybe I am Jimbo. Hmm. If I was, I'd be doing a damn fine job making sure I wasn't crossing my editing patterns up...(and I 'bout half of you hordes just started to seriously wonder....for your sake, I'll say it here. I'm !not not Jimbo.) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
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Click this link, and go do something else. You need it. giggy ( :O) 01:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
since the world appears to have imploded after I went off line yesterday. Listening to sports radio on the way in this morning and they're talking about the All Star ballots and what not. This wasn't local sports radio so we can't blame it on NY non-knowledge but Joe Mauer's new name is apparently "Moo-er". They compared him with other Minnesota unpronouncables, including Hrbek and Chuck Knoblauch, neither of whom I found to be unpronouncable. TravellingCari the Busy Bee 12:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Wait, you know what else annoys me? The amount of paternity leave that American men get. Because the amount is zero. We get zero additional days for the birth of a child. Meanwhile, Tony Blair gets a few weeks off from being the leader of Britain. Gwynand | Talk• Contribs 13:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
OKAY, I'm gonna give this a go here. One big fat reply :-) I like the new coldplay song. Moo-er is leading the allstar balloting for catchers, no small feat for a " minor league team". His name is way easier to say than Dugmen-CAVE-itch. Gwynand, you must be going out of your mind, I feel for ya brother. The first few days' diapers are the worst, it's called Meconium and your wife will be layed up in a hosp. bed and you'll hafta dig in Warning! If you have a weak stomach or a strong gag reflex, that blue link has truly awful pictures... Dusti? A Ball State man? Somehow, that seems appropriate. Enjoy your walking. Xeno, I don't get the "fuckshit" comment or what its referring to, but thanks for fixing the header. Also, parental leave is overrated. You do realize babies cry all the freekin time right? W(hy)TH would I wanna stay home? I very much enjoyed leaving the house. (I don't mean this to sound as sexist as it probably does - my wife and equal partner enjoys leaving the house too. We are getting much better about not both leaving at the same time :-) Whew! Think I got em all. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I took this to ANI, but they seem to be running slow today on reading, and the actual post was made at AIV, I really kinda wish I was an Admin in this type of situation....Here's the link [1] Dusti SPEAK!! 15:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Dear Keeper 76, You gave me an "A7" Deletion for 'not a notable bio' and 'real person'. I submitted the article "David Crais" due to the fact that I have received media attention through several articles, radio reports, and television interviews I have been asked to appear on lately. While I'm not Bill Gates, or even Paris Hilton, I am somewhat of a public figure...in a tiny, tiny way. I tried to included mulitple third party published references in my article. Of course, others can put whatever they'd like in the content. I just wanted to provide what I could, the good, bad, and ugly. It is not a self promoting piece. I just provided a bio as written by a third party. The reference links I put in the article I just copied from a Google search (maybe some would say a 'vanity search') and listed several of articles written about me from regional and national newspapers and other publications. Please consider this and restore the article. Although not written in your prefered three lines and seventeen syllables, I would appreciate your consideration on this. Regards, DCraiss ( talk) 16:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
DCraiss ( talk) 16:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, would you take a second look at your close, please? The DMB mess has been cleaned up but the original article that was proposed for deletion, was moved to Skybox (band), and this still needs to be dealt with (I would argue that the case has been made for deletion). TerriersFan ( talk) 17:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me, but why did you delete my refinement of the Caillou entry? I changed the entry regarding his father Boris from "He is silly" to "He is a buffoon" as per this definition:
buf·foon Audio Help /bəˈfun/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buh-foon] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a person who amuses others by tricks, jokes, odd gestures and postures, etc.
I watch the show every day with my son, and as such am more than qualified to make this adjustment. Get off of your high horse. My definition is more accurate. Have you sat through hundreds of hours of the same Caillou footage over and over again? I think not. I'm changing it back. Learn how to use a dictionary.
Nick Myers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.121.4 ( talk) 20:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
This, I'm personally satisfied that that's enough of an apology, given that Joe's happy with it.
Feel free to delete this once you've read it (it's a pain you not enabling email...) – iride scent 01:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) I'll also go along with Sandy's point about "file this away but if you ever do anything like this again ...", but, like Malleus, I do think he needs to show by his words and actions, that he can be trusted, which means fulfilling his promise made during is RfA to make himself open to recall. Furthermore, I think the criteria and process adopted should be scrutinized to see whether there is a reasonable chance that any repeat of this recent behaviour could result in a successful bid to remove his tools (i.e., no overly elaborate and restrictive criteria or process.) DDStretch (talk) 08:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Ohai. I just thought you would find it interesting for you to read this. I'll be on a wikibreak, so you may not get a reply for a few days. Cheers, RyRy5 ( talk) 10:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I was going to update the Johnny Cooper aka John Robert Cooper article and the page was deleted with no notice.
I feel that I have been diligent in following various criteria.
His page was in the biography project. I had previous discussions along the way with others on Wiki and all seemed right.
Please advise me so that I can work toward restoration of the article.
Thank you Sharonbrain2 Sharonbrain2 ( talk) 22:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I've userfied the deleted page at User:Sharonbrain2/Johnny Cooper (musician) following discussion with Sharon - I've asked her to refer back to you once her rework is finished before moving it back to article space. Hope that's ok Fritzpoll ( talk) 00:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for the feedback and the opportunity. The Johnny Cooper article is my first full Wikipage and will raise the bar. Most of the info was from interviews with family, other musicians (one recently passed away), and various venues where he has played. I have various press & media to work from and also will follow the WP:Music info to be sure that all is noted for evidence. This past friday, most recent press from record company, Smith Records has released that his song "Texas To You" will be the season theme song for the Dallas Cowboys in the 08-09 season. Also, they noted that the Texas Rangers team is using the same song as well. Appreciate the feedback! Baby steps..... Cheers Sharonbrain2 ( talk) 03:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I forgot to ask if I have a deadline to complete the article? What if someone else starts a Johnny Cooper page while I am in process of rewrite?
Be of Good Cheer Sharonbrain2 ( talk) 14:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I apologise for the earlier conflict here. Perhaps we can reach some agreement on such debate? Cheers, and good morning (etc.). :-) -- Mizu onna sango15/ Discuss 14:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC).
After I did the archiving, its.....blank :( Dusti SPEAK!! 15:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, basically, I've been thinking about standing for RfA for quite a while, and I have asked a few people what they thought about my chances of surviving it intactpassing. Unfortunately, I still have no idea how the community would react to a candidate whose main contribution to this project is roughly 40000 Huggle reverts/warnings/aiv and whose sole major contribution to the article space is getting a barely start class article to an "almost" GA. (
John Rutledge, in case you're interested)
From what I can see, you despise Huggle (or at the very least, you despise the way 99.9999....% of people are using it) Most of the people who commonly "stalk" this page also share a similar view.
I have had someone offer to nominate me in a few weeks, and I guess I just wanted to see if you think that my RfA would be:
To avoid the risk of TL:DR, here is my question in a nutshell:
Do you think there is any chance I could conceivably pass an RfA solely on my present merits? J.delanoy gabs adds 15:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
You could say that your page isn't a blog, either, which really it is. And it's a good thing, a place for us all to chat and run ideas by a group of people we know and trust. You've been different lately, dude, what's up? Way shorter fuse, snappy, dismissive... Tan | 39 16:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
*Keeper trouts Keeper*
Now now, no self-trouting allowed. Life happens. Feel free to tell us to shut up and go away, we'll mostly listen and be here when you want company again. TravellingCari the Busy Bee 18:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
don't worry about it. I do apologize for using your talk page to solicit comments from a wider range of people. I should have just asked your talk page stalkers on their talk pages. J.delanoy gabs adds 18:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
<--I have had several bizarre threads on my talkpage. Today's are just plain surreal. What a strange little section of my soon to be bloated archive this will be... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:36, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
...because of this? I figured that such a potentially dangerous tool really needed maintenance. (ducks) Fritzpoll ( talk) 21:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
<-Fritz, remember the good ol' days when WP:N/CA was the most contentious and attention gathering thing on your plate? Sigh. Everyone reading this, make sure Fritz gets lots of support/backup/whiskey. Don't wanna lose him. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
← And to Fritzpoll! Hope this doesn't discourage you (Huggle will die w/out you or Gurch...), but we do have a huge pile of bugs that need fixing here and some more here that don't show up on the first link. There are some pretty major ones that Gurch never got around to fixing when he was around, and a bunch he made by not testing 0.7.11 before giving it to Addshore and the rest of wiki-world... please test your versions before releasing... Calvin 1998 ( t- c) 04:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Since I apparently cannot yet live without it, I've created a sockpuppet. Since I couldn't pretend for five edits to be someone else, I don't even try. You may also be interested in this RfCU I've filed about myself. I'm hoping that all those people will get the piled-up criticism about me out of their systems, and maybe there will be even more than just senseless bashing (although I have to admit I'm skeptical after that AN clusterfuck). So if you decide to comment there, I'd appreciate it if you did it with the valid aspects of others' criticism in mind. Everyme (was Dorftrottel) ( talk) 10:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
<--Some thoughts. Dorftrottel, (I just finally got to spelling that right dammit I ain't about to switch just yet), I found it a good hoot how many of those diffs from Postlethwaite fell into four categorys: 1.Something to do with LGRdC/Kurt + RFA. 2.Something to do with your opinions on inclusionism/inclusionists/"trivia in general", 3.Something to do with Screambox that I seemed to be involved in(the irony is thick, I know), or 4.Something to do with fucking your wife/girlfriend. Many if not most are linked at RFC out of context. However, the one directed at Postlethwaite (second from bottom) you should apologize for, it is obvious to me at least that you were just lashing out. Whether that's really your opinion or not is irrelevant, it went too far. The one at Naerii (you're an asshole, not an idiot) was over the top to me as well, and even though Naerii's response said "I agree", you had no way of knowing that's how (s)he'd respond. The comments about "switching names and making it hard to track you down" are a bit of a stretch, as you've been completely open about who you are and what you're former accounts did/didn't do correctly leading to blocks. You've done nothing wrong as far as I'm concerned regarding being open v. being elusive. That claim has no merit. Even this new everyme account is linked directly to your IP/former accounts when it certainly doesn't have to be. I applaud you for your openness in that regard as I find it to be the mature thing to be. So all this to say (I won't be editing the RFC directly unless it gets too ridiculous), here's my advice, in a nutshell. WP:DEBF and WP:DEDE. Don't Edit Before Fucking, and Don't Edit During Euros. Also, for the love of God Most Holy avoid Kurt and LeGrande (and now, apparently RP). They bother you. We get it. You bother them too. It's a big wiki. You told me once before (I'll find a diff if need be) that you'd stop "responding" to them at RFA/AFD, and you've started to migrate back towards doing that I'd noticed. Let me know when you want the RFC that you started on yourself (mostly for attention perhaps?) deleted so we can all move along pleasantly and singing Kumbaya together. Oh, and I'm hoping your new account gets a userpage as topnotch as Dorftrottel's was - one of the best on here (and not just because I was quoted on it...:-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure why my page was deleted while I was in the middle of constructing it. I was working to learn how to cite things properly (I have Reuters articles as well as other writings of interest to the business community (Hedgeweek, Business Week), and while I did that my page was deleted. I am trying to prove notibility, but wasn't given the chance. What should I be doing so that my work isn't deleted while I am trying to be compliant? Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it! Lonbam ( talk) 20:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)lonbam
I'm moving in with my girlfriend on Saturday, and we can't sort out the internet until we get there so I'll be reduced to doing it at work. What's a good template for this (the moving/no internet, not the girlfriend part)? Fritzpoll ( talk) 20:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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The other definition of buffoon carries a derogatory tone, and you know it.
Well, the "primary" and "secondary" definitions of the common word "silly" ARE no doubt derogatory, which, as an editor of an encylopedia, you should be familiar with.
Maybe not silly and definitely not buffoon?
What are you basing this on? You certainly didn't formulate your argument using a juxtapositional comparison of the actual definitions of the words in question. You clearly used something rather subjective, which is generally problematic when you are trying to convey nuanced objective meaning. While your argumention style is heavy on the rhetorical pathos, it lacks any trace of logical rigor, which is more substantial, especially when it comes to convincing the audience of a puportedly accurate encylopedia regarding word choice. Granted, calling Caillou's father "silly" rather than "a buffoon" is not the end of the world, but it is something that needs to be addressed on principle, nonetheless.
How does using a word that is wholly MORE accurate (buffoon vs. silly) and wholly LESS derogatory appear to you to be the opposite? Knee-jerk removals benefit no one.
silly---->buffoon
sil·ly /ˈsɪli/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sil-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, -li·er, -li·est, noun, plural -lies. –adjective 1. weak-minded or lacking good sense; stupid or foolish: a silly writer. 2. absurd; ridiculous; irrational: a silly idea. 3. stunned; dazed: He knocked me silly. 4. Cricket. (of a fielder or the fielder's playing position) extremely close to the batsman's wicket: silly mid off. 5. Archaic. rustic; plain; homely. 6. Archaic. weak; helpless. 7. Obsolete. lowly in rank or state; humble. –noun 8. Informal. a silly or foolish person: Don't be such a silly.
buf·foon /bəˈfun/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buh-foon] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a person who amuses others by tricks, jokes, odd gestures and postures, etc. 2. a person given to coarse or undignified joking.
or
buf·foon Audio Help (bə-fōōn') Pronunciation Key n. 1. A clown; a jester: a court buffoon. 2. A person given to clowning and joking. 3. A ludicrous or bumbling person; a fool.
Now you tell me which is more derogatory and which is more appropriate to the character Boris. Note that the tertiary definition of the SECOND listed entry for "buffoon" is the only remotely derogatory one, whereas the primary and secondary definitions for the word "silly" are of a markedly more derogatory and inappropriate nature. I think my argument has been more than cogent. Based on the supplied arguments and knowledge of the character, Boris is CLEARLY a "buffoon", and is comparatively less "jocular" and even less so "silly".
BTW - Boasting about liking spectator sports while simultaneously deriding a child's television viewing choices is unnecessary and somewhat pathetic. No offense.
To Kek - I agree, if the defiitions were accurate. Any teacher worth her salt would make sure that her students understood the formal definitions of proposed word usage prior to actual usage(especially in a publicly-oriented educational setting), over perceived definition and its subsequent usage and the repercussions of said usage.
Thanks,
Nick Myers
source: www.dictionary.com
25 June 2008, Sound Beach, NY
Is Caillou that cartoon with the little girl who has cancer? Gwynand | Talk• Contribs 22:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Family Guy is my new favorite cartoon - used to be Simpsons. 72.92.4.157 ( talk) 22:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
For you British folks - are you familiar with a comedy show "William & Mary"? It was recommended to me and is available here in US via Netflix. Also there is Canadian show called "Trailer Park Boys" (I think) - any Canadians recommend that one? I heard of that through a friend. 72.92.4.157 ( talk) 00:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, if you want seriously warped animation, consider Walt Disney's weirdest cartoon: [7]. This used to be a standard in schools for many years. Ecoleetage ( talk) 00:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I don't know. It appears my choice was the first time a certain "V" word was ever used in a film. Who would have thought Uncle Walt was so salty? Ecoleetage ( talk) 00:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Do you see a pattern?
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Gwynand, you ought run, now! – xenocidic ( talk) 00:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Have you seen it now? There's either a spate of really less qualified candidates or something is up. I don't think I've ever seen that many borderline at a go. TravellingCari the Busy Bee 15:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Wow. So, hi everyone Keeper. This feels a little different to the
last
time we talked. Wonder what's changed... it's definitely not the number of people now watching this page ;). The drama here seems to be hitting a fairly high point at the moment, so I've been taking a back seat and doing stuff I actually enjoy.
This is something I've involved myself in, as well as
some photo work, which is actually pretty good. In case you haven't seen it (and why would you?)
Para has a simply fantastic tool for overlaying coordinates onto Google Maps from any category or article - the results of London are
very cool. Well, that'll do. It was a diversion for me, and hopefully for you and anyone (everyone?) else reading this. Hope you're all good, and still ticking along. All the best,
Alex Muller
12:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
for this. Why are the wackos coming out of the woodwork and landing on my talk? Did you see what happened last night? TravellingCari the Busy Bee 20:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
←Maybe he's only generally known by the single name?
Some
sportsmen
are (clutching at straws here, I know). Re your other question which I only just noticed; removed Xp's Huggle from him and warned Kodster for abusing AWB, both on the same day; all their friends then turned up to offer their full-and-frank opinions and never really went away. I then made the fatal mistake of talking Metros out of indefblocking, which might have been totally against the principles of Wikipedia but would certainly have made life easier. If you mean BG7, I know him from
WP:LT, which for such a small project sure attracts a staggering number of loons; check out the insane argument on their talkpage over whether
or
is a better illustration for "ferry". –
iride
scent
20:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Oppose: Being 12 is prima facie evidence of not being administratively competent. That should go over well. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Yea, I'm ok. A very good friend of mine :-) came over today and we spent the day together. I'll be on later tonight and get the next round done. Dusti SPEAK!! 21:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
but your boys are doing well! Raining in Pittsburgh so I'm watching the Coney Yankeeography. Great memories from the perfect game, which I saw live. Totally forgot that Don Larsen had thrown out the first pitch. TravellingCari the Busy Bee 00:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
This article was speedy deleted by you saying it was an advertisement. Actually the original article was deleted 2 days back which was created by some newbie. I later rewrote it yesterday. This is not the first time I have written a new article. As you can see, I have few DYKs to my credit. Also, as a daily nominator to CSD, I do certainly understand what is encyclopedic and what is a Template:db-spam. I am not writing this all to boast about myself. I just want you to review the deleted article once more and point out which line was written like an advertisement. I agree it is a stub, but surely not an advertisement. -- gppande «talk» 07:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
I came here--at 4 AM--because I wanted you to see this--and then I found that YOU GOT ONE TOO!!!! Oh man. I am past the point of speechlessness at the....OMFG, really, seriously. Um, excuse me.... ENGLISH TEACHER, remember??? lololoFECKINGLOL...I know, I know, I'm typing like a 14-yr-old textmessaging emo-kid but I am SO gobsmacked by this whole line of discussion/whackingly-big SNOTFEST that I've momentarily regressed 24 yrs. Gladys J Cortez 09:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Twitterrific. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 15:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Since you self-proclaim North OF Minneapolis knowledge, can you work on Northstar Corridor :) .:DavuMaya:. 16:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Oops - sorry to nip your conversation in the bud ;-) Actually, RFRBot is down at present, so all RFRs have to be archived manually. It's a pain, but hopefully something will be sorted out soon. — Tivedshambo ( t/ c) 18:03, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
I was surprised to see you jump in on comparing the Arbitration Committee to Nazis. I'm not really sure what you meant by this: "User:Keeper76. In all fairness to the Nazi's, they at least got to have defense lawyers at their trials, or at the very least, knew the trial was in fact happening." Think you can clarify this remark? Normally I expect far more temperate comments from you, so maybe I am misunderstanding or perhaps the gravity of comparing any group of people to Nazis is something you hadn't really considered (even though, I'll grant, it seems to happen a lot on Wikipedia). Avruch 19:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Keeper, I need some help (though some help from any of Keeper's talkpage-stalkers who are sysops would also be appreciated - 'tis kinda like a second ANI here ;P). I, and a number of other editors have been having a lot of trouble with User:Fasach Nua. There was initially a discussion here, on AN, and now the discussion has continued over at ANI. Take a good look at everything cited in both those conversations - this is one of those times when individually, each action is not criminal, but alltogether, the behaviour is very disruptive. There seems to be a number of editors who agree with me - in fact, there don't appear to be any that disagree in either conversation, except of course FN himself. I'm kinda reaching the end of my teather here, and nothing is being done about it. I could of course block him myself, but I've already given him a 24 hour block (which did nothing), and he harked on quite a bit for my blocking him when I was involved. He may have had a point, but no one else was stepping forward. Regardless, nor can I warn him, as he just turns around and calls me a troll. He's just called me a troll for the umpteenth time. Something needs to be done; my hands are tied; nothing is coming of the ANI discussion (I had to pull it out of the archive, for flip's sake) - please help :-/. Talk Islander 12:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Does his behavior concern you, yet? It does me. It looks repeatedly trollish, and I see no evidence of improvement despite repeated blocks. Once again I feel he lacks the fundamental maturity that Wikipedia requires. Friday (talk) 19:10, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
FYI: I've started an ANI thread on Endlessdan. D.M.N. ( talk) 18:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Recently, after granting someone rollback, I've been using User:Keeper76/Rollback, as I think it's a great template to use. Well, I just noticed this. :) Acalamari 01:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
But saw that you dealt with 7deadlysins before, I think that's right... would you (or one of the stalkers who knows what's going on with something like "Genius'" sockpuppeteering) have a look at User talk:Iamthe7DeadlySins. Cheers, Alex Muller 15:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
{{
blockedsock}}
. If someone can check I haven't made a horrible mistake...
Alex Muller
16:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
{{
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on the top of this.
Alex Muller
19:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
[9] Enigma message 16:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
In other news today ....... Dusti SPEAK!! 17:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind looking over my new attempt at a page for Marble Bar Asset Management? I'v started it in my sandbox, as you recommended. I would really appreciate any advice you might have before I start making larger changes. Thank you! Lonbam ( talk) 21:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)lonbam (6/30/08)
Thank you! Your advice is really helpful. I'm going to work on this page more today, and hopefully then it will be ready to go mainstream.
71.166.163.108 (
talk)
13:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)lonbam
Since your a level head, I wanted to get your feelings on an essay I wrote about the arbcom at User:MBisanz/Arbcom and well spamming to this page is more effective than a sitenotice/ANI/watchlist notice put together :) MBisanz talk 21:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
(Undent)I saw the header of this section and the one immediately following and immediately worried you were leaving. This is not ANI, it's KNB (Keeper Notice Board)! TravellingCari the Busy Bee 01:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your beautiful message, which gave me just enough courage to turn the lights off and go to sleep (after 50mg Valium that must be possible), There is a special place in Heaven for people like you, weho take the time to help a stranger in extreme need. God bless you. Your kindness will never be forgotten. Jeffpw ( talk) 23:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for !voting on my RfA. If you supported, I'll make sure your confidence is not misplaced; if you opposed, I'll take your criticism into account and try to adjust my behavior accordingly.
See you around the wiki!-- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 00:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I was referred to you by Giggy for a peer copyedit. Will you please work on the Radio (LL Cool J album) article?
--- Dan56 10:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Keeper76, I got your name from WP:PRV and was wondering if you would have time to copyedit an article I have at peer review right now? If so the article is the Earle Mack School of Law and the current peer review can be found here. If you're too busy right now that's ok, I'm just trying to get this up to GA status sometime within the next month and if you would be willing I would appreciate it. Thanks :) -- ImmortalGoddezz ( t/ c) 15:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
←Heh, sometimes I feel like a loon.. but no, Iridescent is referring to my mention on ED and a particularly persistent user among others. Things have been oddly quiet in the front lately, but who knows how long that's going to last. -- ImmortalGoddezz ( t/ c) 21:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I never said anything you implied in the MfD. The situation is over. Its being let go. I'm disappointed, not fed up or sick of you. I just think you may have gotten a little heated over the situation with the blocking admin, and haven't taken the criteria for deletion (the userpage guideline and policy) and the history of deleting (the MfD archives) these pages into account. I still welcome peaceful and fruitful future conversations with you, but just not about this. With best wishes from — Maggot Syn 09:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I created an account on Test Wiki to see how it was to use the tools. It was pretty cool and I told a friend about it and she wanted to have an account. Created an account for her and promoted her according to policy and was accused of being a sock and was blocked. Interesting huh? I was a 'Crat on there and created a sysop sock :) LOL Dusti SPEAK!! 15:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I didn't know spearfish swam off the coast of Ireland. Imagine that? LOL. Probably unintentionally on your part, but funny nevertheless. I'm going to have green bagels with lox. :) OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 19:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Keeper76, for your support !vote at my RFA. I will be doing my best to make sure that your confidence has not been misplaced. -- lifebaka ( Talk - Contribs) 18:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I hope you won't mind me letting off just a little bit of steam here Keeper, but a few events over recent weeks are bubbling over in my mind.
Most recently, I've just seen that Giano has been given a three hour block for this. Indisputably uncivil, but I was given a 24-hour block for this, only a few weeks ago. Was my alleged disruptive editing 8 times worse than Gianno's alleged incivility? -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 20:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
5 days and you started missing me already! I'm touched! Just really really busy in RL and have been viewing via my blackberry if and when I can. Still likely to be busy until the middle of next week, but thought I'd drop by and confirm I'm alve and User:WifeOfPedro has not, as yet, produced User:SonOrDaughterOfPedro. Any news on the birthing front of one of your other regular stalkers BTW? Pedro : Chat 20:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Keeper, I am writing you in regards to Traden ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Earlier today he made his first ever edit to en.wp here. It was in an AfD and his comment includes a fair knowledge of notability and deletion policy. I suspect him of being a meat/sock of Uponleft ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) based upon this pretty similar !vote. Both accounts have been flagged as SPAs on this AfD. I was referred to you by MBisanz ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I did add the suspected sock tags on their userpages, but they have been removed. Thus, I bring this to your attention. Sincerely, Bstone ( talk) 21:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey there Keeper. I was wondering if It would be good to close the above AfD as a "keep". And admins keep asking me for rollback. :S Yes, I declined them. :) So anyway, should I close it? -- RyRy ( talk) 22:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Comment from my talkpage.
Hi Keeper, I know you ordinarily do not do email because of transparency issues, and I respect that. There is a very serious off-wiki issue I would like to discuss with you. Would you please email me? Thank you, Aleta Sing 22:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I had not been paying attention here after I said "OK", so I didn't see these other suggestions. Thanks. I was able to get help from Raystorm. Wow, this has been a stressful evening. I'm going to go take a hot bath now. (For folks watching this and wondering what it's about, there's now an ANI thread, "Suicidal Wikipedian".) Aleta Sing 01:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that was particularly called for. Jeff made a mistake, I warned him against it, he appologised (unecessarily) to me, blip in behaviour over. I'm sorry, but regardless of underlying circumstances (circumstances that I unfortunatly have first-hand experience in), behaviour like that cannot go without comment. Perhaps I worded my warning a little harshly, but had there been no underlying circumstances, I would have blocked on-sight for a comment like that. As it is, it was an unfortunate blip in behaviour caused by tragic circumstances. Regardless, it's over now. Talk Islander 22:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
(e/c)You're of course right, Islander. I was about to go to your talk and retract (honest!). I overreacted, projecting my own feelings towards what I thought Jeff would be feeling, mixing in my own grief. Jeff has proven to me that he is far more mature than I'll ever be (seeing as I've reached the age where I only grow horizontally not vertically...). Apologies Islander, you meant no harm. And (edit conflict) Sam - if you're really 12, I don't want to see you type "fucking" ever again. Or at least for several years... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your note of concern. While I would have reacted as Aleta did in her position, I am ashamed and embarrassed that so many know I am not made of granite, as I like to come across. I promise you I would never do anything which would make Isaac unhappy. Jeffpw ( talk) 07:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to ask that you look over this, and the page marked for MfD. — Maggot Syn 03:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
We're gonna just use this. Think I'll get guff over it? -- Endless Dan 12:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
'nuff said. -- Avi ( talk) 02:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
what the hell is this, a love in? someone pass out some Social networking barnstars! – xenocidic ( talk) 02:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
In your closure of the AFD you didn't address my primary objection that the AFD had been inappropriately bulked with many other AFDs violating the guidelines for bundling in WP:AFD. I had yet to review some of these articles as I was waiting for the AFDs to be split. Can you please address? Nfitz ( talk) 04:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Ohai Keeper. I just have a question for you. Do you think I should start using rollback again? I know I've greatly improved from about 2 months ago. I've learned more about what vandalism really is and when to use rollback.You can look through some of the threads on my talk page to see for yourself. Someone was literally begging me to use rollback again since they thought I was really ready for it, on IRC that is. 3 other admins offered also ( User:PeterSymonds, User:Useight, and User:Gonzo fan2007) but I declined them saying I wasn't ready. But I just wanted your view of me using rollback again. I know it's really my choice, and I'm the best person to judge when I'm ready for rollback, but you always have something smart to say about it, and I would like your thoughts on it. (and for those "talk page stalkers", feel free to comment also.) -- RyRy ( talk) 15:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
<--- Keeper. Can my public account, User:RyRy Public have rollback too if possible? I want to use that account to test rollback at WP:NAS. -- RyRy ( talk) 19:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
<--I detest IRC. I don't care what anyone says about "publicly available logs" or whatnot, it is just an unnecessary tool. Won't be convinced otherwise. 99% of the conversations there are harmless. The 1% that are harmful make it not worth it. Now you have my opinion on it too RyRy. Whether you're "gunning for RFA" or not, IRC is evil, 1% of the time. Not worth it. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
It's been an interesting day for me here. Sorry I haven't been editing as heavily. Personal life has been interesting latley. Note the change in my userbox. I'm going to AFD now. Dusti SPEAK!! 15:40, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey Keepster...So I was watchlisting along (leap...leap...leap...oh, wait, that's not a watchlist, that's Zoboomafoo) and I found this. And this. Also this. And this, and this, and finally this...all of which were merged/redirected as part of AfDs I started months ago. (The hilarious thing about that is, I was just yesterday cleaning up my watchlist and nearly removed them, thinking "nobody's gonna recreate those NOW...) The consensus was to merge/redirect, and I thought even THAT was a stretch--they're TOTAL cruft. Since you're an admin and all...anything you can do about it? Thanks.... Gladys J Cortez 16:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Daniel Johnston (Consultant). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Maikadal ( talk) 17:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Keeper. Would you mind copyediting 2002 Bou'in-Zahra earthquake--at the FAC, it was said that thee were some misc. rough spots with the text. Your effort would be greatly appreciated. --I'm an Editor of the wiki citation needed 20:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
When you move an article, please remember to check the talk page and make sure templates are updated as well; you left a FAC dangling on the talk page as a red link. [11] I moved the FAC to the new name, and updated the article name on the FAC. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 04:26, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your support in
my recent RfA, which closed successfully. I felt the process was a thorough review of my contributions and my demeanor, and I was very gratified to see how many editors took the time to really see what I'm about and how I can be of help to the project. As a result, some editors changed their views during the discussion, and most expressed specific, detailed points to indicate their opinion (whether it was
,
, or
).
A number of editors were concerned about my level of experience. I was purposeful in not waiting until a particular benchmark occurred before requesting adminship, because I feel - as many do - that adminship is not a reward and that each case is individual. It is true that I am not the most experienced editor around here, but I appreciate that people dug into my contributions enough to reach the conclusion that I seem to have a clue. Also, the best thing about this particular concern is that experience is something an editor - or administrator - can always get more of, and I'll continue doing that, just as I've been doing. (If I seem a little slow at it, feel free to slap me.)
I am a strong believer in the concept that this project is all about the content, and I'm looking forward to contributing wherever I can. Please let me know if I can be of any help. In the meantime, I'm off to school...
Thanks again!
2002 Bou'in–Zahra earthquake—OK, I'm wondering whether each item was originally a region, and has come together to form the name of a village that has ownership of both regions ... or what? An en dash is quite specific in application. But I'm unsure. Double names are normally, although not exclusively, subject to a hyphen instead.
But definitely wrong are your changes to en dash of items such as "southwest–dipping thrust" and "multiple–even location". Have you read MOS on en dashes and hyphens? TONY (talk) 15:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
evidence obtained by the prosecution, to be shown to the defendants. :) Rudget ( logs) 18:23, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
<--Maybe I am Jimbo. Hmm. If I was, I'd be doing a damn fine job making sure I wasn't crossing my editing patterns up...(and I 'bout half of you hordes just started to seriously wonder....for your sake, I'll say it here. I'm !not not Jimbo.) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)