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A.J.A. 01:20, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
User:CyclePat and I have a bit of a chequered past, but he supported my RfA after initially opposing, and bought me a beer on the strength of it, which was big of him, so I've kept it here to show that sometimes when folks work at it they can get along :-) Pat, for the record, I am actually very toucched by this, it means a lot to me. -
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22:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Does Tom Rubython need to be semi-protected? It looks like it does. I'm happy to do it if you want. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG, can you please validate your additions to the Safe Speed article by providing citations for the evidence and research you refer to with regard to:
Thanks - De Facto 12:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Ah yes, I remember that now. Here's the deal: That was only my 756th edit, most of which had been to article space. I had just gotten into the new page patrol scene and was still in the cut and dry newbie wikilawyering phase. The situtation as it appears now is different than it ws earlier. He appears to be posting a bio now, which I believe should be, and if you check my contributions you will see I do, userfied. At the time of my comment, he was using Wikipedia to host the syllabus of his class at Tehran University. I can't give you a link as the page was deleted and not being an admin I don't have access to the logs. That wasn't really appropriate to userfy, IMO, but I also don't think it would have occurred to me to do so early in my interaction with Wikipedia.
I agree that there has been too much newbie biting recently and frequently add welcome notes when I come across unwelcomed users. I was recently involved in my own one man crusade to prevent a newbie forom being bitten too hard, see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/REMAGINE. This was one of the worst cases I've seen, not necessarily because of what was sadi to them but because of the way they took it and how unwilling older editors were to look at it from their point of view. I am not quite sure yet where my niche of the encyclopedia is, but whenever the oppportunity arises I will join you in your crusade to userfy.
Keep up the good work — WAvegetarian• CONTRIBUTIONS TALK• EMAIL• 19:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, The speedy delete on this may be technically correct but I find it hard to believe it's the best solution for the author of 17 books. And you're quite right about not biting. Dlyons493 Talk 19:43, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
You seem to have an interest in epidemiology, or is this a hasty conclusion? Anycase, please have a look at epidemiology, as well as the WP:TIGERS at work on the talkpage. JFW | T@lk 18:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
I didn't understand where it was from until I re-read the book yesterday and it hit me. Nice obscure reference there. -- Cyde Weys 20:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Am I missing something? I don't have a dog in this race, but listing the names and number of Flight 11 victims doesn't seem to me to violate the guideline about WP not being a memorial. A comprehensive, verified list could be of historical value, especially to journalists.
I get the feeling that there's more to this AfD than meets the eye at first glance, but I can't figure out what. - Ikkyu2 04:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
JzG, I need a mildly more level-headed backup here. I'm being lambasted by the article's author that I'm a deletionista, biased and all the happy things, including that I'm incorrect in applying WP:WEB to a site and that refactoring what is becoming a lengthy discussion to the talk page. I've asked for proof of anything regarding WP:WEB, or any other policy, and despite attempts to be civil, he's leaving veiled personal attacks on me and (as usual) using deletionist in a perjorative sense. If you could offer any guidance on this, that'd be freakin' swell. Thanks. RasputinAXP talk contribs 12:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
You are invited to participate in the consensus vote on Kennel Club naming policy. Click here to participate-- Esprit15d 21:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG -- could you please take a look at this problem diff, diff, diff, before it gets out of hand once again? Thanks. AvB ÷ talk 02:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you recently commented on bible-verse articles, and may therefore be interested in commenting about a proposed policy covering roughly 50 such verses:
-- Victim of signature fascism 20:08, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
from the article motorized bicycle you recently removed my OGG video with the explanation of "vanity". you detailed explanation would now be appreciated in regards to:
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-- CyclePat 22:20, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
as per WP:AD. If you come across an article with an accuracy warning, please do the following:
don't remove the warning simply because the material looks reasonable: please take the time to properly verify it. visit the talk page to see what the issues are. correct it right away if you can. Please take the time to properly verify it. Please also add to the article any sources you used to verify the information in it: see cite your sources. -- 72.57.8.215 18:59, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. I've been on the sideline the last 2 1/2 months with the motorized bicycle stuff, but I think I'll hop back in so I can help out some. Does that work for you? :) What amazes me is that he's been on the site for 5 months and yet, he hasn't learned a darn thing about our policies. Nothing. -- Woohookitty (cat scratches) 15:52, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
For watching my Userpage! Looks like the fisheaters crowd. Dominick (TALK) 13:14, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi. FYI, a couple of us tried to clean up Choronzon (Band) which you voted to delete. It's seems more keepable to me now if you want to take another look... — Wknight94 ( talk) 15:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I know coming from me this will seem slightly hypocritical, BUT, is there any way you can shrink your sig? Just about every page I view it on your sig linewraps. Not to mention the fact that as an admin its going to start getting plastered all over wp that way :)
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Hmmm... not sure how you found my discussion with CyclePat except by a little wikistalking... a SHORT comment from you on your perceived understanding of the problem may help. Dyslexic agnostic 15:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG. Thanks for your reply on AfD/Cake Prophecy. It reminded me of two things:
By the way, although I'm a bit further-up the inclusionist spectrum from you, I appreciate tremendously all the hard work you do, and I'm happy that you haven't lost any interest in AfD since becoming an admin. × Meegs 23:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the move to his userpage. Would it be appropriate for a non-admin to do that? -- Mgreenbe 10:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the archive messages. And it's good to see we're negotiating. -- CyclePat 12:25, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I would most vehemently challenge you on this point, my friend. The only mistake anyone in the project made was bringing it out prematurely. Other than that, I'd beg you find one single edit of anyone involved that was clueless/wrong. The way such projects are built is often from fumbling beginnings.
Please don't take this note the wrong way; this is not written in anger. I know you were saying this casually, and I'm certainly not saying it's wrong. I just need this expressed. My kind regards. -- DanielCD 21:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Just zis Guy, you know?, thanks for adding a comment to Rix. Voting in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/WebEx and Min Zhu/Proposed decision is slow but steady now. Taking a turn toward my choice, ban for Larvatus so article can be written. I was afraid that other editors were going to get wacked too. Looks like the tide is turning away from that outcome, thank goodness. Thanks again for giving Rix your attention. regards, -- FloNight 03:22, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Just curious... what's the problem with linking to the CMT page on Rhonda Vincent? Jim, K7JEB 02:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
JzG, I notice you've been removing masses of links to cmt.com. Why are you doing this? This is a major country music media source. It has mini-bios of artists. In a number of cases, it serves as a signficant independent source of information for the article. As with imdb, just because something is heavily linked-to, doesn't mean its link spam. The link is not only useful to readers, but also fact checkers, who may not be familiar with an artist, and may wish to verify something. -- Rob 02:34, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I just added it back to Gretchen Wilson. There were previously only three external links from that page. One to the official site of the singer, one to a fan site, and the CMT link. The CMT link, which includes a bio, is the only independent external source linked to in the article. So, I can't understand how it could be removed. We can't have articles with no independent sources (the fact it was in the "External links" instead of "References" is a just a minor labelling issue, as its still a reference). -- Rob 02:55, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't help but notice your removal of the Salt Lake Tabernacle pipe organ - attributing the removal to LDSCruft. However, is it not the most famous pipe organ in the world? The one pipe organ that has been seen more than any other worldwide? To repeat what you removed...
[it] has been heard over the Music and the Spoken Word weekly radio broadcast since July 15, 1929 (it is the oldest continuous nationwide network broadcast in the United States of America). The show has been televised since the early 1960s and is currently broadcast worldwide through some 1,500 radio, television, and cable stations.
I would really like to see that pipe organ put back in the article. I don't see grounds for it's removal. If there is one notable pipe organ in the world, that is it. I think that removing it is more of a POV issue than leaving it there. Bhludzin 05:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I meant that the quotes make it clear that the phrase is a spoken part of the show and not written by the article's contributor. Therefore there was no need to explain what it was. I would argue that where it is heard within the programme is too much information for what is supposed to be a concise opening paragraph. Sorry I didn't explain it properly! Chris 42 17:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I reverted your rever to the taint article. The reason I made these changes is that at some point some person had added each of these terms and rather than continue te revert them I thought it might be better to just add them into the article and be done with it. It also will keep any person from writing an article about those terms. Anyway if you want to revert it again okay I just thought I would explain it to you. -- The Emperor of Wikipedia 19:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you mentioned in a comment (on Ruby's talk page), that PROD lacked a way to keep track of articles for which the tag had been removed but the article had not been AfD'd. It has one now: Ta Da! JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:19, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the greeting on my talkpage. Though I feel this may lead to petrol bombs, I feel I should mention that I once found Prof Wesseley's phone in the IOP canteen. In trying to find out whose phone it was I accidentally phoned the BBC's Greece correspondent, who has the same name as a post-doc in Psychological Medicine at the Institute of Psychiatry. Apart from his view on CFS, he is a very funny host of the Maudsley Debates, something which deserve an article of its own 1.) when I can be arsed, 2.) when I believe someone will help me. -- PaulWicks 02:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Campus Crusade for Christ if you ran out of spam, check out this. Arbustoo 05:33, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KJV. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KJV/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KJV/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Tony Sidaway 16:26, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you JzG for seeing my point about the deletion of the Medal count pages that user CyclePat started. That's exactly what I said...that all that information is freely available on the internet! -- Jared 18:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
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Please stop removing content from Wikipedia; it is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.
This page is up for deletion. Please follow wiki policy rules. You have vandalized this page by removing the deletion tag. [1] -- CyclePat 19:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh, really. This is too much. · Katefan0 (scribble)/ poll 20:46, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
It's typical Pat. He sees a new policy (for him) and uses it with no research at all. -- Woohookitty (cat scratches) 20:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
you seem like an admin on here so i was wonderin if you could take a look at this very biased admin's history and talk page. his name is Jiang. thanks a lot —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freestyle.king ( talk • contribs) 02:46, February 13, 2006
are you completely clueless? you can't leave my material up there and take out my references. it's one or the other bud.
get a life, go play in a park or something, go read some IBM papers from 10 years back
Hello : ) If you are around, could you give me a second opinion. Earlier today, while welcoming newbies, I came accross a new account user Wannabebritney that looked like a vandal. (The name seemed s/w suspect, too.) [2]. I reverted and left a vandalism warning. Checking back later, I saw that the article Princeton Review had an Afd tag added by this editor. I reverted that edit too. The site went down again so I couldn't leave a warning. Looking at the edits now it appears Wannabebritney was trying to delete the article through Afd. Wannabebritney ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I left comments on
Wannabebritney talk page. Apologizing for reverting the edits but expressing concern that a new user's second edit to WP was the deletion of an 18 month old stable article. What should I do now? Re-apply the Afd tag? Does that make sense when the article is not really a good canidate for deletion? What would you do?
FloNight
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Hi there,
This concerns Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Daisey, where you recently voiced an opinion. User:Calton has raised some significant objections, and I would like to ask if you wouldn't mind considering the ensuing discussion and changing or confirming your choice with respect to the article Mike Daisey. Sincerely ENCEPHALON 07:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. Going back through the reverts on the KM article, I found this set of references which I feel was NPOV good and contributed by Dmezei, which you reverted as it was all getting started. I think that was a mistake; even if some of the other stuff was good editing on your part, those references he added seem very strong on first examination. I agree that the original 5 or 6 refs to two of his own papers were not Neutral POV, but the longer list from his edit there was much much stronger.
I can't see a legit reason why those should have been nuked, so I tend to think that your reverting there rather than discussing and counterediting other parts was probably provocative of the eventual more aggressive argument. Putting those back in would probably be a good start to really fixing things. Georgewilliamherbert 10:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
was my writing, yes. But now, the introductory definition is now terrible. Like I said, if anyone can do a better job, I would be the first to congratulate them. I was the first to tell Denham Gray on brint.com that his analogy for KID was great. Why? Because I know how hard it is to write one. The KM article has reverted to becoming one of those 'no one knows' what it is kind of subjects.
I knew going in that there would be people upset about all my references. And that's exactly what happened. So now, you want to leave all the material I wrote up, but take out the references to my ideas.
I would really appreciate if you would just start the article over from scratch, this is almost too strange for me to witness. I've notified Knowledgeboard.com what is happening here, and to remove the link they set up for me to wiki entry on KM.
Novelties like wikipedia are good for simple or well established ideas, but when it comes to creative thought or new ideas, wikipedia simply doesn't work. That's why wikipedia will never rise above being an average source to gather information. This KM article was the test, and sorry, but wikipedia has failed.
is that no one built upon the ideas I listed already there. Those were time tested ideas. Not spur of the moment ideas. Those ideas had gone through 4 years on brint.com, 2 years on knowledgeboard.com and countless discussions with other KM practioners.
It seems to me, and I predicted this, that wiki took offense to the fact I (as in one person, not some 'community') was putting up all these ideas, and using the best of the ones sourced from brint or Nonaka Takeuchi. I know Nonaka's book like a fine tooth comb. I know Jerry Porras and I've discussed KM with him in context to his book Built to Last. I've exchanged ideas on the meaning of quality with Robert Pirsig, who helped clarify some ideas in my unified theory. What I'm currently reading on the wiki KM introductory definition (the rest of the article is mostly mine, with a few really bad edits thrown in) are a bunch of seat-of-the-pants ideas about KM that are purely whimsical. I don't really care, but I don't want my ideas associated with those. Knowledgeboard set up a link to wiki specifically because I was editing the page, but that's going to be taken down now.
I have no interest in having my 'name' out there. It's already 'out there'. I was doing this as a service to wiki, that's all. I put my website up there so someone could source my references.
Seriously, I wish the wiki community all the best, just don't use my ideas. Use your own, but don't take mine and de-reference them and change them. Because then they don't make any sense. I'm trying to uphold wiki to a high standard here. That's the point. Isn't it obvious?
"Unless you are asserting that your perspective on the subject is absolutely unique and cannot be separated from you yourself (in which case it would have no place here)."
That's right, it has no place here. Now you're getting it. My perspective is unique, and of course, this notion of someone having a unique perspective is new to the annals of academic history.
That's what I've been saying all along, wikipedia will never rise above being an average site. It's a rehash of what's already out there. Never interested me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.221.51 ( talk • contribs)
but you seem a bit in over your head as an editor of KM. Before Brint changed their forum format it was the largest in the world, and Yogesh asked me be the editor for the forum, but I didn't have the time.
I'll be honest with you, I knew this whole KM wikipedia things was doomed to fail. Writing what KM actually is, when anyone can change it? heh heh
It proved useful in that I refined my KM definition because I knew there would be an audience, so it helped in that way. So in that way, I'm actually very happy about it.
Wikipedia needs to evolve. It's too stuck in the morass of the known.
I was hoping you would take a look at User:Paulo Fontaine's recent contributions and consider blocking him, especially for this edit, this edit, this one.... (I'm going to you because you have some experience with him, according to his talk page.)
Btw, belated congrats on your admin-hood! I'd always assumed you were already an admin. Consider the count a retroactive, unofficial 103 "support" votes. Cheers, JDoorj a m Talk 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I was just told by an editor from wikipedia that 'wikipedia does not publish original ideas'. I kid you not. Please remove all references from Einstein, Galileo and Newton right away.
So my website, or Brint.com, or my papers, they conveniently don't qualify as secondary sources. How many ways can you spin this? In my opinion, you're all just bugged that one person could publish so much material. That must be the case, because you de-reference everything I put up. Nazipedia.
From what I can see, none of you really have a clue about KM. So much so in fact, that there wouldn't be an article if you removed everything I posted up there. There would be just that lame KM definition, one of the many attempts to define KM that go no where. So the only thing right now that's making the km entry even worthy of a visit is what I've written. heh heh. That must just bug you to no end.
The only reason I even took on writing it was because, if you read the history of the entry, everyone was really dissatisfied with it. It was called 'unencylopedic', a really poor piece for a worldwide site etc. So, where were you with all your 10 year old IBM papers. Were you too busy to edit the entry?
"Sit back and have a look at the article, folks. it is in very poor shape."
"092605/SL - Kff, Banno, I am new to Wikipedia. I saw the KM page and thought - wow, for a global encylopedia this is a bad represenation of KM."
So I completely re-write it, which takes almost a month, people really like it, but lo and behold, they are POV's! POV's!! Ahhhhh. Delete. Let's go back to the crap. No, wait, we'll take out all references to the writer, BUT KEEP HIS MATERIAL. And if he doesn't like it, we'll ban him. Nazipedia.
Hello,
I would appreciate your feedback at User talk:Mwalcoff/Candidates and elections, my proposal to bring some order to the candidates situation. I plan to soon create sample articles to demonstrate what I mean on the page. Please let me know what you think on my talk page. Thanks -- Mwalcoff 05:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I do not know exactly what you want me to merge. Although I know how to do straightforward moves and what to avoid doing, this is the first of these history fixups I am involved in. I thought the admin would do a temporary delete while the admin patched up the history. Please let me know how to proceed. Chris the speller 16:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Editor_Violating_Probation_for_Disruptive_Editing, we have our 3 admins. If you could do the blocking and follow the instructions on AN, it'd be appreciated. The consensus seems to be for a week per his general probation. If you think it should be shorter, that's fine too. -- Woohookitty (cat scratches) 03:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
You said in the comment to me you moved the AUES page to my userspace. Where exactly is the article?
cheers,
Shenki 04:37, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guy, thanks for your support in my RFA, which succeeded. If I can ever improve or help in any way, please let me know! :) — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-16 11:17Z
Hi I need your advice on something. I've been watching for a while the article about a CEO I know half personally. Hes famous because of hurricane katrina, however there is a bit of confusion because the company he owns is quasi associated with a kenyan company that buys up expired domain names. No laws get broken, but in his article a group/individual keeps reposting a section about him that 1) isn't true and isnt backed up by anything except their own websites 2) is slanderous 3) is IMO extremely POV. Wondering if you could take a look and advice me on what I can do (ie remove the section or whatnot). The article is
Sigmund Solares.
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Frank.Feather 11:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)I understand what you mean. But if you read the item you will find it purely factual statements. But if that is your policy I will get somebody else to submit it. In that event, can you set it up as a stub? Thank you. Frank Feather
Frank.Feather 11:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)I have resubmitted the article. Purely factual. Please read it again, and advise. All the facts jive with what is in the public domain. All the books are listed at Amazon. If you need further third-party sources in the Reference section, I can provide them. I am not on some ego trip here; that's not me. I just would like to be listed along with my peers in the futures research field. Thanks for your consideration. Frank Feather
Frank.Feather 13:32, 17 February 2006 (UTC)I was offering you what I thought was a fair and verifiable version. I have no desire to impede on your edits. I was working on it at the same time as yourself. In any event, I respect your judgment and request that you now please delete my entire page. Thanks! Frank Feather
Frank.Feather 14:01, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Thank you! I have done so. I also deleted all but the first line. By the way, just so that you know, the guy from Sierra Club who you cited as having coined "TG,AL" -- that's the first I have ever heard of it coming from there. The closest prior version that I am aware of was "Act Local, Think Global" by Dubois. Certainly within the Futures Research community, it is generally agreed that I coined the phrase. It occurred in a brainstorming session for the theme of the conference. (The 6300 people in attendance from 54 countries took it and spread it into the vernacular.) Somebody mentioned Dubois's line and I said "That's it! But it's the wrong way round; and it needs to be more active." I then suggested Thinking and Acting and that became the theme of the conference and the book of papers for the conference. The only evidence for this rests in the ears/brains of those who were in attendance, plus the conference program (which I have a copy of, and could scan the cover as an image for the page; same for the book cover). As for my credentials in China, all I could offer is a Certificate of Appointment, in Chinese, with a Seal, provided by the Government (which again I could scan). But otherwise I don't know how it is possible to verify credentials of this nature. And, for sure, a person of ethics does not go around claiming something as a credential which is not true. I also think that words such as "international" ought to be valid. I could be a Canadian futurist (i.e., only known in Canada), for example. In fact, I do 95% of my work outside of Canada; indeed, the Canadian market is not big enough to rurvive as a futurist, LOL. Anyway, thank you for your time. Sorry to cause you aggravation and waste your time; I appreciate what you are doing at Wiki. That was not my intent. I was just trying to add a valid and fair entry. Thanks for being patient with my futile efforts. Cheers! Frank
Frank.Feather 14:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Thanks! I had another question. In the "Books" which I listed, I later added more complete publishing information for each one. I did this in an attempt to help verify credentials. But those details seem to have gone. What is the correct protocol for that? Frank
I don't know if you remember this largely uneventful AfD. I came across it backtracking the contribs of an anon who kept making whitewashy edits to pages about high-profile conservatives. I had to laugh because I went to school with Ryan Horn. He's absolutely not notable enough to warrant his own article. I'm not leaving this message because anything needs to be done -- I think the AfD took the proper course of action -- but only because it's not every day you find someone you know in AfD (unless you constantly write articles about your friend), and you were marginally involved, and I had to tell somebody. Cheers, JDoorj a m Talk 14:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Dear JzG, please could you have a look at the Deletion review page regarding plazoo. You made up your mind but regarding some strange findings about "the war against blogrelated entries in wikipedia", i would like to ask you as an admin to mediate as i think you are pretty neutral to this issue, although you have an opposite meaning about the deletion. I hope you agree that at least some closer look to the AfD regarding the voters and their closeness to that "war" might be necessary... T.Kik.
I was going to retype that, but what the heck. (You think your typing is bad... I've been trying to work up my depression/ME into an excuse for mine – affects motor control, you know, ahem.) Anyway, are you at all interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Science, you having some Robert Hooke reprints an' all? Just a thought from a passer by. JackyR 01:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
i noticed you removed my image at the top of my talk page titled jiang=shame. however the only reason i posted that image is because jiang posted a image on his talk page titled "taiwan=shame" which is a personal attack toward me. if you think my image is unhelpful, you should remove his image from his talk page as well. by the way, you shouldn't edit ppl's talk page. if you feel sum of the content is unhelpful, post a message and i will read it. -- Freestyle.king 05:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
"Not found" means that no posts by the suspected sockpuppet were found using the range of ips which the user suspected of using sockpuppets was using. Obviously they could be using the sockpuppet account on a different ip. However maintaining a bunch of isp accounts is expensive and confusing even to them so things get far fetched when you see posts coming in from a lot of isps. Who would spend that much time and effort just to mess with us? Fred Bauder 13:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
You think it's about time someone closed to DRV for that article? I seem to do most of the DRV closings these days, but if I do this one I'll be crucified (not that I'm not very tempted). Anyway the debates gone on for almost a week, and no one's adding anything to the dialogue. The process was already tainted when User:Docu spammed well over 20 users, telling them to vote to keep it (no such effort was made to keep it deleted). It's a mess. - R. fiend 17:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Guy, is your new sig not supposed to be clickable from your talk page? rodii 21:41, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
What's the point of placing {{deletedpage}} on this page if it's not protected? -- TML1988 00:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Please look into this attack page (which mentions me) when you can and let me know what I can do. Thanks... KHM03 00:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
What happened to Just zis?
You may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Democratic peace theory (Specific historic examples) since you voted on the deletion of the same text under a different article name. Septentrionalis 17:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Identity crisis? 3 user names in one week! FloNight talk 18:56, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Guy, could you help out here? New user User:Kathychen has created an article that's pretty iffy wrt copyright. She's asking me for advice on how to proceed but I just don't feel like I'm enough of an expert on this. I don't want to just throw the copyvio flag--she seems like a good contributor. The initial discussion was at Help desk, but the article in question is Berman Bioethics and her comment on my talk page is here. Any advice appreciated. rodii 22:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Dmcdevit· t 06:41, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Your animus against this non-commercial site is a little bit disgusting and all too obvious. First you denote any link to it as "linkspam" because someone broke some unwritten rule about having "too many links" (whatever that means exactly, and in spite of the fact that all links were non-commercial and relevant), and then you blast it because Alexa didn't report a lot of traffic to it within DAYS AFTER IT CHANGED DOMAINS. Looks like that site didn't need Wikipedia after all:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000CMO6QK/103-3956901-1045461?v=glance
-- which doesn't go to say that Wikipedia readers don't deserve to have links to information about the historical practices of the Church, and the practices of millions of traditional Catholics, people who are apparently hated by Anglicans. Your religious bigotry is showing and has been for a while now.
Well, there aren't 100 links now (how many non-commercial, added-by-human-hands, relevant links to specific, relevant pages on relevant entries is too many again?). In fact, there isn't even one, as far as I know, so what is the problem? When are you going to stop deleting any and all links to a traditional Catholic site -- one whose present Alexa report blows your "nevermind the Christmastime domain name change, it OBVIOUSLY gets all its traffic from Wiki" theory out of the water -- just because of your false categorization thereof? How much of your malfunction in this regard is a result of ego, how much is a product of your anti-Rome Anglicanism, and how much is a matter of too many falls from your bicycle? Especially given Google's ranking of Wiki pages, your "linkspam" routine is libelous.
Who says I think anything would actually help the "case"? The power-mad can't be reasoned with. Now, what is the reason for pointing out the page on "Legal Threats", a page that encourages editors to set up other pages to complain about each other endlessly while nothing gets resolved and policies still aren't clarified? What good are "Requests for Comment" pages that turn into gangbangs when the one guy who has no life outside of Wiki gets all his pixel friends to pile on against the editor whose friends are real? "Requests for Arbitration" are the same; the administrators know one another, and if one doesn't like you, they all don't like you. And as for "personal attacks," read how you've characterized the site you've labelled "linkspam," hypocrite.
I'm not sure why you're waiting on such a thing because I just got done saying that "I don't think anything would actually help the 'case'". If you want to apologize and restore links to the pages you said you would allow in your benevolent magnificence, then fine, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for you to admit being wrong or to live up to your word. As to Dominick, he has nothing to do with anything I've said as he is not an admin. Besides which, anyone who thinks it a favor that you deleted comments meant to bring his attention the fact that he admits making non-factual pronouncements (from Dominick's User Page: "I often like to look at NPOV-challenged articles, where secondary activist sources imagine they are primary players, to make pronouncements which are not factual") is not worthy of serious attention.
The links you characterize as "linkspam" weren't added by anonymous users; they were added by registered users -- users who adequately defended the links and to whom you made promises which you later broke. So what's the point of registering? And what does "good faith" or "bad faith" have to do with anything as far as posting a link goes? Either a link is relevant and informative and is on a relevant entry or it isn't -- or do you regularly conduct inquisitions as to the nefarious motives an editor might have in posting a link? And what nefarious motives could one have in, for example, posting a non-commercial, perfectly orthodox (Catholic standards) link to a page on the Rosary anyway? Money? Sex? Drugs? Power? Entree to an incredible lightness of being? What?
I didn't think this would "go anywhere" anyway. I didn't think you would apologize for mischaracterizing that site and links thereto, and would have bet against you leaving any link to that site alone. How my registering would change your attitudes is beyond me, but you can track the IP and call me anything you like. How about "Punkin'"?
You characterizing the links as "spam" doesn't make it so, especially since there is no policy which states how many links are too many. Given that, what does anyone from that site have to apologize for? Why should they apologize for "linkspamming" when they didn't believe they were "linkspamming"? Clarifications as to policy were asked for, and none were received. Instead, links were removed and labeled "spam." Period, the end. Links like this were left up, while links DOT com/customstimeafterepiphany2a.html like this were taken down, with no reason given except that the links of the second category are "linkspam" because there were "too many" links to that site, even though the links were to very specific pages, the site is non-commercial, the links were added by hand, and there is no magic number I've seen that indicates how many links are "too many."
Who said anything about not including the Catholic Encyclopedia (though, since the Catholic Encyclopedia was written before Vatican II, it would have nothing to say about the traditionalist "movement" with regard to the entry "traditionalist Catholics")? And as to the site-owner's "strong POV," have you read the Contact page for the site? Have you seen the spectrum of traditionalists that populate the site's forum? Of course the site-owner's view aren't "mainstream"; the site is a traditionalist Catholic site, and one of the very few that is pan-traditionalist (i.e., it is welcoming of and includes information relevant to "indultarians," those who attend Masses offered by the S.S.P.X. and the like, and sedevacantists -- none of which are "mainstream"). What sort of "authority" are you looking for? An imprimatur? On a traditionalist site? By demanding such "authority," you are basically saying that the traditionalist Catholic view can't be heard at all -- and those traditionalist views and traditionalist practices are also the historical views and practices of the Church, another reason to include links to that site and the reason why the site is linked to from the history departments of various universities (and not only that, much -- nay, most -- of the instruction involved would be of interest to "mainstream Catholics" anyway). Is there some error you've found at the site? Is there another traditionalist site that does that that site does? Is there a better, more informative, more nicely laid-out, and more exhaustive traditionalist site out there that is non-POV with regard to traditionalist "factions"? Since you've admitted to being an "outsider," how can you know what is a strong "POV" that "distorts" what traditionalists believe and what isn't? Why don't you go ask at the forum there if the site accurately reflects the beliefs and practices of traditionalist Catholics and let trads from sedes to "indulters" answer? Go ask at Angelqueen forum, a much larger forum, that also links to that site. Go find an traditionalist priest and ask him (pick any kind you like -- sede, S.S.P.X., F.S.S.P., I.C.K., doesn't matter because that site includes them all and doesn't take sides).
Yeah, "whatever." No skin off your back, right? It's not a site you spent years working on that, for no good reason at all, is getting slandered by an "encyclopedia" that Google ranks above all else.
Now why would someone pause to think about that before edit-warring links in over 100 articles if that person didn't think that what he or she was doing was wrong? And what do you mean by "of no conceivable relevance to dissenting Catholicism"? Are you referring to that disambiguation page? Is that all you got?
Once again, we are not talking about links to pages on bells (and, BTW, the traditional view is very different from the mainstream Catholic view. Bells are for ex., are always used during the Consecration during the traditional Mass rarely if at all during the Novus Ordo -- and there are differences with regard to incense and the use of relics in altars and a million other things); we are talking about the entries for traditionalist Catholics, liturgical year, Catholicism, Lent, Advent, Christmas, Easter, and a few other calender-related entries (since you don't seem to know, traditionalists use an entirely different calendar and Missal, their Mass readings are different, etc.).
I don't know whether admins are "evil" or not, but they seem to be ignorant of the facts concerning traditional Catholicism and very shy about explaining the rules they expect others to live by and know by some psychic means (since nowhere is there a, for ex., "any more than 10 links is spam!" rule that I've seen). And seeing how the website in question has more traffic since it got purged from Wikipedia, your continuing on about anyone from that site using it to "boost page rank" is silly.
As to this "minority view" label, yes, traditionalists are a minority (so are Orthodox Jews; perhaps we should purge links to their views?), but their views aren't some "fringe thing" (many traditionalists attend regular parishes at Masses offered with the local Bishops' permission). And especially given that the rumors are flying hard with regard to Benedict XVI's "normalization" of the S.S.P.X., the information contained at the site will be even more needed.
I think you need to look at the Talk pages for the Traditionalist Catholic entry, where MONTHS were spent in debate with Dominick while the page was locked down half the time. That entry, BTW, was taken almost ENTIRELY from DOT com/traditionalcatholicism.html this page (links to the encyclicals at Fish Eaters, of course, just had to be changed to be directed to papalencyclicals.net or ewtn.com, even though it was Fish Eaters whence the article was taken, it was I who wrote the article, and even though "papalencyclicals.net" has no more "authority" than FE. And now there can't even be a link to the site at all anywhere at that entry. He even took down a link to an encyclical at FE and replaced it with a link to one at a commercial site ( http://www.lutgentrading.com/) That is the level of animosity shown toward that site by a mainstream, anti-trad Catholic editor who worked on that page and which is the genesis of this whole "let's get FE" game started by Dominick and picked up on by admins when it was discovered that there were "too many" links to that site -- a rule that has never been fully explained (one can't have "too many links" to papalencyclicals.net, apparently) and which led to the "night of the purge" when alllllll links to the site were deleted by a slew of admins (still without explanation of what exactly the rules ARE) and I lost it, and got frantic and angry. And no one would listen to anything I or anyone who liked my site at all had to say. "Linkspam" was the only word that mattered, and all the "how many are too many?" and "how can it be spam if the site is non-commercial" questions were ignored in themselves, only to be answered with the accusation that I was wanting to "boost page rank" (an assertion which found "evidence" -- now demolished -- in the fact that after the "purge" which came days after a Christmastime domain name change, page views fell acc. to Alexa). I offered to give an admin access to a temporary username/password to the site so they could log in and look at the traffic stats themselves. No response. No defense was ever listened to. The "linkspam" label was all it took, and now the site is blacklisted -- even though I obviously had no idea that there was any rule-breaking going on given the RfC against Dominick in which I, myself, listed a long list of Wiki links to FE for all the world to see.
And note, too, that Dominick was not an admin when he was going around Wiki deleting all links he found to FE (and is not an admin now). He was leaving up links like the one to that St. Brigid's parish linked to above (complete with embedded midi file and everything) while taking down the FE link on the same topic, presented above for contrast. At one entry, for ex., he'd take down one link to my site and add TWO links to another site, all while calling my site "linkspam." And while he was doing this sort of thing, he was calling FE a "BLOG" in some edit summaries. He even had this to say about FE:
Aside from the same sort of nonsensical English that was the issue of (literally) MONTHS worth of debate for the traditionalist Catholic entry -- and which, in this particular case, could be paraphrased, "if a Bishop falters with sufficient glee and 'shadenfreunde' (ahem), you're not considered a trad by FE unless you bang a gong" -- what a lie is his intimation. The lies about disliking "sedevacantist adventures" (climbing the Himalayas maybe?) and not attending SSPX chapels putting one outside FE's "selfserving" definition of Catholicism are so blatantly FALSE that it is disgusting, especially since I, the person who runs that site, have never set foot in an SSPX chapel in my life. Any look at the forum there will show those lies up for what they are. So he lied right in my face and to "the world" (via the public RfC which Google finds very quickly) about my site, and went about, as a non-admin, deleting any link to it he could find. I go to arbitration and file an RfC trying to get help, and instead get a "well, yeah, it's all linkspam! Let's delete!" -- still with no solid answers as to how many links are too many and having been totally unaware that I broke any rule at all.
As to "third party references," I never mentioned Amazon reviews. You've been challenged to ask traditionalist Catholics what the deal is. Or just go visit traditionalist Catholic websites and look around. Compare DOT com/beingcatholic.html this page with any other instructional trad site out there, and as you do, keep in mind that FE is pan-trad and doesn't take sides in the debates among sedevacantists, "SSPXers," and "indultarians," etc. You will not find another site like that. I know that for a fact because that is "my world," and you don't because you haven't looked into it and are an "outsider." That is why this is so frustrating, and this tale is why I come off as pretty pissy about it.
As to an "agenda," I am a traditional Catholic and my mission in my life is to teach others about traditional Catholicism in a pan-trad way. With regard to Wiki, I worked on the trad Catholic and other such entries in the same way a biology teacher might want to provide information about a certain biology topic but is not interested in writing articles about teddy bears (I am now too busy to become a Wiki Editor as a major hobby, and am too "beat up" after the endless debates anyway). I don't give a flying fig about "search engine optimisation" -- well, that's not true; of course I care, but that's not the thing. The thing is, or at least was, with regard to Wiki, providing information about traditional Catholicism (which is what I spent months doing at the entry for that topic) and providing links, on relevant pages, to further information for those who are interested. Yeah, it'd be nice to have links on a few pages (Advent, Lent, Christmas, Easter, Sacraments, Sacramentals, Liturgical Year, Catholicism, and, at least, at the Traditionalist Catholic entry), but at this point, though, I just don't want my site to be slandered as it is, or blacklisted like some sleazy porno site, with that "linkspam" label next to every removal of any link someone might add. I've spent years researching, writing, and HTML-formatting that site, spending hours even just trying to find just the right picture for a given page, and am sickened to see my work being labelled with the same sort of invective one would rightfully hurl at an e-mail with V*I*A*G*R*A as the subject line. Seriously.
Ahem, you don't find it absolutely rich that you, an Anglican, presume to "excommunicate" me? Your friend, Seamus, is "in communion with Rome," but I, am not? You might want to call my parish (a regular Diocesan parish in the Archdiocese of Indianapolis) and inform my priest (one of those F.S.S.P. priests who operate directly under the Pope); perhaps he can arrange something lovely with a bell, book and candle to make my "excommunication" formal and memorable. But what is your point anyway? If one were wanting to worship in the traditional way, whether in or out of "communion with Rome" (either way is covered at FE, which takes no sides), one shouldn't expect to find information about how to do so or links to such information at Wiki? Why not? What at that site would offend the sensibilities of Seamus?
"Wikipedia guidelines" are more than just "very firm," apparently; no one may add any link to the site in question. Not any at any time on any entry, not now or ever in the future, and any link found will be presumed to have been added by me -- and for the cause of "vanity," at that, even though I don't even post my name at my site (how was my "vanity" served by spending months working on the "Traditionalist Catholics" entry? I forget...). And isn't it curious to you that, on the one hand, my site is lambasted as a "monograph" while, on the other, any link added to it is presumed to have been added by someone "associated with" it? Hey, can people who visit EWTN and ask questions, hang out on the discussion forum at Catholic.com, or use the Catholic Encyclopedia ever add links to those sites?
Yes, I know that the people who took down the links to the site that night weren't admins, which just goes to show the problem. If you didn't know you were breaking some (STILL unseen) rule about "too many" links and saw a group of non-admins -- with your "archnemesis" Dominick among them -- coming at you like that, what would you think and how would you feel? Then throw in the fact that it was all done right in the middle of RfCs, requests on my part for arbitration, and trying to get information as to what exactly the rule is. If a group of trads all ganged up together and starting taking down ALL links to some site or other en masse, wouldn't that be seen as the totally unfair actions of a cabal of agenda-driven meatpuppets? And if no link were even allowed again -- not ever, not even one, not even on an entry that gets its information from the site in question -- wouldn't that be seen as a bit over the top?
As to an "agenda," if you think neo-con Dominick doesn't have one, you're not looking hard enough. Neo-con Catholicism and neo-con politics, that's his thing (he, BTW, has an account at Free Republic and was all over the entry for that forum). Not once, for example, have I seen him work on the entry for waffles, which is a good thing, really, or else we'd be hearing about how President Bush eats them (though it'd be written in English so mangled that the waffles would be portrayed as eating Bush).
Remember: it is not possible that you have a neutral perception of my work. Alas and alack and whatever. I doubt the slander will stop, but know that it is slander -- now with accusations of "vanity" and "excommunication" on top.
I like fish. Well, sushi mostly. Does that mean we can't be friends anymore, Guy? · Katefan0 (scribble)/ poll 22:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
i was just reading the latest rant from JG that you posted on the Gastrich evidence page. What is strange is that there seemed to be abosolutely no justified reason for him going off like that. If you look at CDThieme contributions at the time he nominated that page for AfD there was no reason to believe he did it except he thought it was non notable. Prior to Dec 8th 2005, CDThieme ( talk · contribs) had zero interaction with Gastrich. This is striking since it highlights Gastrich's "everyone is out to get me" mentality that, to be frank, looks a lot like paranoia. David D. (Talk) 21:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so much. How did you find me, sir? Chris 00:44, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
You may want to re-visit your AFD opinion on this figure. As noted in her article, she received an Emmy award for invesitgative journalism, which seems like a pretty good claim for notability. Citation here. - Colin Kimbrell 05:32, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your comment at AFD ZuluPad:
Even with over 30 Google hits this is still not notable. Looks like vanispamcruftisement to me. Just zis Guy you know? 23:42, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I respect your opinion, but if ZuluPad is non-notable, what makes the other applications shown here notable?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_Wiki
None of them are any more developed than ZuluPad, and each of them has it's own page. I would like to continue developing the Desktop Wiki article, as I think it's an interesting new trend in software development, but I don't see why this application shouldn't be listed. I urge you to reconsider your vote. Omeomi 00:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Left a message at Wikipedia:Deletion_review#pork (instant messenger). ~ PseudoSudo 23:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey JzG, isn't it against the rules (or at least guidelines) for editors to go trolling for votes on an AfD? (And yes, I'm talking about the latest batch of 9/11 conspitacy articles.) Thanks, -- Aaron 23:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I've posted a reply to your count of "unique" Google hits for this subject. I'm not asking you to reconsider your vote, as you probably based your vote on multiple factors, but I am trying to get folks to leave the unique Google hits thing off of AfD :)
— Adrian~enwiki ( talk) 01:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I saw your comments at the universism DRV and I found it surprising that 50,000+ hits turned into 400+ when only unique ones were counted. This is an important issue now that unique googles are being taken into account more than the old process of merely counting the totals. I was looking at old debates and I saw this comment when another user pointed out the discrepency between googles and unique googles, as he found merely 247 unique hits. "I contest this claim. Google never displays more than 1000 results, and it seems that these 247 are only unique hits among these 1000. If the ratio of duplicates is the same among the remaining hits, I would estimate about 6500 unique ones. - Mike Rosoft". Now Mike is an administrator who voted delete on the article, and it seems he makes a good point. Do you know if this is accurate? If so it will greatly affect the unique google count for any results over 1000 for any search; this stretches well beyond Universism.
And another thing, it's looking like Universism is probably going to go back to AFD. When this happens do you want to handle the nomination? I believe all such AFD listings should either argue for deletion or at least be neutrally worded. I find when people do proceedural nominations and then argue why the article should be kept it really tends to skew the voting, as people are loath to vote to delete something when no reasons are given, and even the nominator is voting to keep it. By the time a reason to delete appears in the discussion there might be half a dozen or more keep votes, which is a difficult hurdle to overcome, even when the reasons for deletion are sound. (This has been a problem in the past, and has led me to take some rather controversial actions.) I'll likely be arguing to keep it, and I'm one of the few editors it seems who ever does these relistings, so I certainly shouldn't do the nomination. I trust you'd be critical but fair. And do give this google question some thought before you mention the 400 unique hits. Thanks. - R. fiend 21:09, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
In RE to "Delete in the absensce of (a) evidence of currency, (b) the name of the magazine and (c) any likelihood of me caring anyway, since it's clearly a bit of cruft." Your opinion of caring or not is hardly worth anything. You are nothing but a moderator on a public website. And since you do not enjoy neologisms, maybe you should stop using the word CRUFT, you moron. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.107.143.173 ( talk • contribs)
The arbitration committee has reached a final decision in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/WebEx and Min Zhu case. Raul654 19:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Please see additional info on Wikipedia:Deletion review re deletion of my user page. You may wish to reconsider in the light of it. Thanks J1838 20:42, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to know if you could help me out with a page move. I posted the details at Requested Moves here
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves&oldid=41545304. If you can help me just let me know, I can fill in any detatls I have missed, its a simple page move, just the name it is going to is currently a redirect.
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Hi. I'm working on KLF discography. To aid with formatting, I created two templates. The image thumbnails I am using get passed as arguments to the templates. I've noticed that, presumably as a result of the use of a template, the Image page doesn't know that the image is being used in an article (see e.g. Image:The KLF- Burn The Bastards.jpg). I'm worried that some bot will come along and say "right, they're not being used", and list them for deletion.
If you can suggest a way round this or what might be causing it please leave a message on my talk page (as I've asked several people). Cheers. -- kingboyk 18:25, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Please check this which I made on your behalf. AvB ÷ talk 00:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm somewhat surprised you are in favour of keeping the Brian Peppers article. Peppers is a disabled man suffering from a congenital deformity who was convicted of a technical offence after an inappropriate contact with his nurse/carer. His sole claim to notability is that some nerds chose to laugh at his deformity. They must really regret the passing of
Thalidomide. I say leave the poor guy in peace.
Just zis Guy, you know?
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19:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I keep running across your edits while browsing meta-wikipedia issues - AfD, mediation, all that. While I've disagreed with you often on AfD, and expect to keep doing so, I'd just like to say ... thanks for doing it. If you know what I mean. GRuban 17:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Would you be interested in moving St. Albans School to St. Albans School (Washington), so it can be a disambig page. I tried, but can't, since I'm not an admin (I get an error). It might avoid another mistake, like linking a pre-Columbian pope to an American school (that particular boo-boo is fixed though). I thought I'ld ask you, since you were involved in the old discussion, and are familiar with it. -- Rob 03:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I am afraid that User:Owain has tried to pull the wool over your eyes on this one. The dispute is nothing to do with "original names" of Scottish counties. It is to do with when they were created and when they were abolished. Owain has lost his attempts to claim that counties are somehow an "historic" subdivision of Scotland (see Talk:Counties of Scotland), and I and other editors are happy with that article as it now stands, and further improvements are being discussed. The counties were created in 1889 and abolished in 1975. Owain goes berserk every time it is pointed out that the counties no longer exist: they were actually abolished in a piece of legislation. He persistently tries to apply the present tense of the verb to all references to Scottish counties, and changes "former" (which they are) to "traditional" or "historic" (which they most certainly are not).
Please remove that warning from my Talk: you are being seriously deceived and taken advantage of.
I will put up a notice at Talk:Counties of Scotland to alert other editors to the issue with the templates. Do not be deceived either by User:Astrotrain backing Owain up. Astrotrain has recently publicly stated his loathing for me, and is currently engaged on disrupting as many of my edits as he can manage.-- Mais oui! 15:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I think it's a little suspicious that this user claims to be Jason Gastrich's wife, thus seemingly alleviating concerns of sockpuppetry by probably using the same IP address. A problem is that Mrs Gastrich posted an RfA after merely 2 edits, which is disconcerting.
However, your post on the page that Mrs Gastrich was a sockpuppet of God and to refer to the Bible I found inappropriate. I have since removed the offensive parts, leaving only the statement of possible sockpuppetry. I understand you may have passionate feelings about Gastrich and his involvement, but please do not deliberately publish untruths. Jfing ers 88 19:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
So this aching ListCruft remains on Wiki. Never mind. But a question, when you qualify a vote to endorse a no consensus -> keep decision with recommendations for cleanup, would it change your vote if you knew at the time that nobody was going to clean it up and it'll be stuck there with a bunch of cleanup tags forever? I would rather see people make recommendations they would be genuinely willing to implement themselves. I don't give a toss about the subject matter, it's just such a bad list for so many reasons. Deiz 03:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
JzG, ever since you met me you have impressed me with rash statements of judgements about me. I really don't understand why you have approached me in such matter. I just want us to work together on an encyclopedia. I don't see no need to accuse me, make me feel inferior, or even list my proposal on MfD, which gives the impression that you have stalked me or have a motive like a vendetta. There is a discussion page for the proposal. The dignified way to remove a proposal you do not like is to reject it. However, you want to delete it and that is not wise. I know you do not believe me in my attempts, and you do not have to. This attempt to write you here is to really to just throw away whatever has happened between you and me and start over with a proper "Hello." Please!
Welcome to wikipedia, let's build an encyclopedia! — Dzonatas 16:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if this makes it better or worse between us, we'll have to wait and see. It's good to talk, anyway. Just zis Guy you know? 17:02, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
If you are online, could do me a little favour please? I've just moved a page, but I realised afterwards that I shouldn't have moved the talk page. The only comment on the talk page is about whether it should be a dab page or not, therefore it belongs to the discussion at the redirect page not the target. Could you delete the redirect at Talk:Mr. C and move Talk:Mr. C (TV character) to Talk:Mr. C? Thanks. -- kingboyk 17:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Uh...hi, JzG. I was wondering, since I like userboxes, if you could help me with something. I need, for one, the template name for that "More Cowbell" userbox that you have, it's hilarious. Also, I would really like to have my userboxes moved to the right side of the page in a box, like yours. Could you do that for me, or at least show me how, please?
Thanks, Flameviper12 20:04, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
PS. I don't check other Talk pages to see for responses, so could you please respond to this comment on my Talk page please? Thanks...
hey man, youre not even giving me time to finish my articles before you delete them. im talking about the "R. Brett" article. Its Legitimate! he really is a well-known filmmaker in Southern Ontario! just give more time for the article to be edited. theres NO harm in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bromley2 ( talk • contribs) 23:18, March 3, 2006
hey man, hate to burst your self-righteous bubble but has it ever occured to you that i mentioned this vote to several friends of mine and that they are voting the way that THEY feel...or the fact that some of my other friends who have WP accounts are at my house and voting the way they feel as well? You need to start thinking outside the box pal, trust me, no sockpuppets here —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Whoermaster ( talk • contribs) .
And no, you really don't want to be on the receiving end of all of the trash directed at me. --
21:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
In response to my recent addition to the above page you effectively reverted my edit with the following remark in the edit history:
Please! The nickname of a person from a piece of non-canonical fan-fiction? Who is going to look for that?
The fiction in question was not "fan-fiction" - The Dark Rendezvous book in which Scout featured was published in all good book stores, and in particular in a Waterstones in the United Kingdom. Second the book is not "non-canonical" - it is considered a part of the Expanded Universe and has been the subject of an article on the Star Wars website [4]. Furthermore, the novel in question was endorsed by LucasBooks, which should put to bed any questions of being either "fan-fiction" or "non-canonical".
To rectify this situation, I suggest:
You may also wish to consider reverting your edit. I personally don't actually care, which makes me question why I wrote this. -- New Progressive 02:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Gah, I went to leave you a message but the DB was locked so I went to IRC. Just as I got in, the servers came back online and you left. Anyway, I wouldn't have removed the blue link, except for the fact that I had just tagged the page for speedy under WP:CSD G4. I'm not really sure what the deal is with that article, but apparently I was wrong about the previous deletion. It's weird; the first edit in the edit history was a section edit. Whatever, the author emailed me and it's all worked out. I'm still not sure that it meets WP:CORP, however. — WAvegetarian• CONTRIBUTIONS TALK• EMAIL• 22:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
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A.J.A. 01:20, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
User:CyclePat and I have a bit of a chequered past, but he supported my RfA after initially opposing, and bought me a beer on the strength of it, which was big of him, so I've kept it here to show that sometimes when folks work at it they can get along :-) Pat, for the record, I am actually very toucched by this, it means a lot to me. -
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Does Tom Rubython need to be semi-protected? It looks like it does. I'm happy to do it if you want. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG, can you please validate your additions to the Safe Speed article by providing citations for the evidence and research you refer to with regard to:
Thanks - De Facto 12:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Ah yes, I remember that now. Here's the deal: That was only my 756th edit, most of which had been to article space. I had just gotten into the new page patrol scene and was still in the cut and dry newbie wikilawyering phase. The situtation as it appears now is different than it ws earlier. He appears to be posting a bio now, which I believe should be, and if you check my contributions you will see I do, userfied. At the time of my comment, he was using Wikipedia to host the syllabus of his class at Tehran University. I can't give you a link as the page was deleted and not being an admin I don't have access to the logs. That wasn't really appropriate to userfy, IMO, but I also don't think it would have occurred to me to do so early in my interaction with Wikipedia.
I agree that there has been too much newbie biting recently and frequently add welcome notes when I come across unwelcomed users. I was recently involved in my own one man crusade to prevent a newbie forom being bitten too hard, see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/REMAGINE. This was one of the worst cases I've seen, not necessarily because of what was sadi to them but because of the way they took it and how unwilling older editors were to look at it from their point of view. I am not quite sure yet where my niche of the encyclopedia is, but whenever the oppportunity arises I will join you in your crusade to userfy.
Keep up the good work — WAvegetarian• CONTRIBUTIONS TALK• EMAIL• 19:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, The speedy delete on this may be technically correct but I find it hard to believe it's the best solution for the author of 17 books. And you're quite right about not biting. Dlyons493 Talk 19:43, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
You seem to have an interest in epidemiology, or is this a hasty conclusion? Anycase, please have a look at epidemiology, as well as the WP:TIGERS at work on the talkpage. JFW | T@lk 18:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
I didn't understand where it was from until I re-read the book yesterday and it hit me. Nice obscure reference there. -- Cyde Weys 20:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Am I missing something? I don't have a dog in this race, but listing the names and number of Flight 11 victims doesn't seem to me to violate the guideline about WP not being a memorial. A comprehensive, verified list could be of historical value, especially to journalists.
I get the feeling that there's more to this AfD than meets the eye at first glance, but I can't figure out what. - Ikkyu2 04:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
JzG, I need a mildly more level-headed backup here. I'm being lambasted by the article's author that I'm a deletionista, biased and all the happy things, including that I'm incorrect in applying WP:WEB to a site and that refactoring what is becoming a lengthy discussion to the talk page. I've asked for proof of anything regarding WP:WEB, or any other policy, and despite attempts to be civil, he's leaving veiled personal attacks on me and (as usual) using deletionist in a perjorative sense. If you could offer any guidance on this, that'd be freakin' swell. Thanks. RasputinAXP talk contribs 12:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
You are invited to participate in the consensus vote on Kennel Club naming policy. Click here to participate-- Esprit15d 21:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG -- could you please take a look at this problem diff, diff, diff, before it gets out of hand once again? Thanks. AvB ÷ talk 02:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you recently commented on bible-verse articles, and may therefore be interested in commenting about a proposed policy covering roughly 50 such verses:
-- Victim of signature fascism 20:08, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
from the article motorized bicycle you recently removed my OGG video with the explanation of "vanity". you detailed explanation would now be appreciated in regards to:
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-- CyclePat 22:20, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
as per WP:AD. If you come across an article with an accuracy warning, please do the following:
don't remove the warning simply because the material looks reasonable: please take the time to properly verify it. visit the talk page to see what the issues are. correct it right away if you can. Please take the time to properly verify it. Please also add to the article any sources you used to verify the information in it: see cite your sources. -- 72.57.8.215 18:59, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. I've been on the sideline the last 2 1/2 months with the motorized bicycle stuff, but I think I'll hop back in so I can help out some. Does that work for you? :) What amazes me is that he's been on the site for 5 months and yet, he hasn't learned a darn thing about our policies. Nothing. -- Woohookitty (cat scratches) 15:52, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
For watching my Userpage! Looks like the fisheaters crowd. Dominick (TALK) 13:14, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi. FYI, a couple of us tried to clean up Choronzon (Band) which you voted to delete. It's seems more keepable to me now if you want to take another look... — Wknight94 ( talk) 15:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I know coming from me this will seem slightly hypocritical, BUT, is there any way you can shrink your sig? Just about every page I view it on your sig linewraps. Not to mention the fact that as an admin its going to start getting plastered all over wp that way :)
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Hmmm... not sure how you found my discussion with CyclePat except by a little wikistalking... a SHORT comment from you on your perceived understanding of the problem may help. Dyslexic agnostic 15:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG. Thanks for your reply on AfD/Cake Prophecy. It reminded me of two things:
By the way, although I'm a bit further-up the inclusionist spectrum from you, I appreciate tremendously all the hard work you do, and I'm happy that you haven't lost any interest in AfD since becoming an admin. × Meegs 23:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the move to his userpage. Would it be appropriate for a non-admin to do that? -- Mgreenbe 10:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the archive messages. And it's good to see we're negotiating. -- CyclePat 12:25, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I would most vehemently challenge you on this point, my friend. The only mistake anyone in the project made was bringing it out prematurely. Other than that, I'd beg you find one single edit of anyone involved that was clueless/wrong. The way such projects are built is often from fumbling beginnings.
Please don't take this note the wrong way; this is not written in anger. I know you were saying this casually, and I'm certainly not saying it's wrong. I just need this expressed. My kind regards. -- DanielCD 21:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Just zis Guy, you know?, thanks for adding a comment to Rix. Voting in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/WebEx and Min Zhu/Proposed decision is slow but steady now. Taking a turn toward my choice, ban for Larvatus so article can be written. I was afraid that other editors were going to get wacked too. Looks like the tide is turning away from that outcome, thank goodness. Thanks again for giving Rix your attention. regards, -- FloNight 03:22, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Just curious... what's the problem with linking to the CMT page on Rhonda Vincent? Jim, K7JEB 02:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
JzG, I notice you've been removing masses of links to cmt.com. Why are you doing this? This is a major country music media source. It has mini-bios of artists. In a number of cases, it serves as a signficant independent source of information for the article. As with imdb, just because something is heavily linked-to, doesn't mean its link spam. The link is not only useful to readers, but also fact checkers, who may not be familiar with an artist, and may wish to verify something. -- Rob 02:34, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I just added it back to Gretchen Wilson. There were previously only three external links from that page. One to the official site of the singer, one to a fan site, and the CMT link. The CMT link, which includes a bio, is the only independent external source linked to in the article. So, I can't understand how it could be removed. We can't have articles with no independent sources (the fact it was in the "External links" instead of "References" is a just a minor labelling issue, as its still a reference). -- Rob 02:55, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't help but notice your removal of the Salt Lake Tabernacle pipe organ - attributing the removal to LDSCruft. However, is it not the most famous pipe organ in the world? The one pipe organ that has been seen more than any other worldwide? To repeat what you removed...
[it] has been heard over the Music and the Spoken Word weekly radio broadcast since July 15, 1929 (it is the oldest continuous nationwide network broadcast in the United States of America). The show has been televised since the early 1960s and is currently broadcast worldwide through some 1,500 radio, television, and cable stations.
I would really like to see that pipe organ put back in the article. I don't see grounds for it's removal. If there is one notable pipe organ in the world, that is it. I think that removing it is more of a POV issue than leaving it there. Bhludzin 05:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I meant that the quotes make it clear that the phrase is a spoken part of the show and not written by the article's contributor. Therefore there was no need to explain what it was. I would argue that where it is heard within the programme is too much information for what is supposed to be a concise opening paragraph. Sorry I didn't explain it properly! Chris 42 17:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I reverted your rever to the taint article. The reason I made these changes is that at some point some person had added each of these terms and rather than continue te revert them I thought it might be better to just add them into the article and be done with it. It also will keep any person from writing an article about those terms. Anyway if you want to revert it again okay I just thought I would explain it to you. -- The Emperor of Wikipedia 19:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you mentioned in a comment (on Ruby's talk page), that PROD lacked a way to keep track of articles for which the tag had been removed but the article had not been AfD'd. It has one now: Ta Da! JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:19, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the greeting on my talkpage. Though I feel this may lead to petrol bombs, I feel I should mention that I once found Prof Wesseley's phone in the IOP canteen. In trying to find out whose phone it was I accidentally phoned the BBC's Greece correspondent, who has the same name as a post-doc in Psychological Medicine at the Institute of Psychiatry. Apart from his view on CFS, he is a very funny host of the Maudsley Debates, something which deserve an article of its own 1.) when I can be arsed, 2.) when I believe someone will help me. -- PaulWicks 02:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Campus Crusade for Christ if you ran out of spam, check out this. Arbustoo 05:33, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KJV. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KJV/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KJV/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Tony Sidaway 16:26, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you JzG for seeing my point about the deletion of the Medal count pages that user CyclePat started. That's exactly what I said...that all that information is freely available on the internet! -- Jared 18:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
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Please stop removing content from Wikipedia; it is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.
This page is up for deletion. Please follow wiki policy rules. You have vandalized this page by removing the deletion tag. [1] -- CyclePat 19:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh, really. This is too much. · Katefan0 (scribble)/ poll 20:46, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
It's typical Pat. He sees a new policy (for him) and uses it with no research at all. -- Woohookitty (cat scratches) 20:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
you seem like an admin on here so i was wonderin if you could take a look at this very biased admin's history and talk page. his name is Jiang. thanks a lot —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freestyle.king ( talk • contribs) 02:46, February 13, 2006
are you completely clueless? you can't leave my material up there and take out my references. it's one or the other bud.
get a life, go play in a park or something, go read some IBM papers from 10 years back
Hello : ) If you are around, could you give me a second opinion. Earlier today, while welcoming newbies, I came accross a new account user Wannabebritney that looked like a vandal. (The name seemed s/w suspect, too.) [2]. I reverted and left a vandalism warning. Checking back later, I saw that the article Princeton Review had an Afd tag added by this editor. I reverted that edit too. The site went down again so I couldn't leave a warning. Looking at the edits now it appears Wannabebritney was trying to delete the article through Afd. Wannabebritney ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I left comments on
Wannabebritney talk page. Apologizing for reverting the edits but expressing concern that a new user's second edit to WP was the deletion of an 18 month old stable article. What should I do now? Re-apply the Afd tag? Does that make sense when the article is not really a good canidate for deletion? What would you do?
FloNight
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Hi there,
This concerns Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Daisey, where you recently voiced an opinion. User:Calton has raised some significant objections, and I would like to ask if you wouldn't mind considering the ensuing discussion and changing or confirming your choice with respect to the article Mike Daisey. Sincerely ENCEPHALON 07:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. Going back through the reverts on the KM article, I found this set of references which I feel was NPOV good and contributed by Dmezei, which you reverted as it was all getting started. I think that was a mistake; even if some of the other stuff was good editing on your part, those references he added seem very strong on first examination. I agree that the original 5 or 6 refs to two of his own papers were not Neutral POV, but the longer list from his edit there was much much stronger.
I can't see a legit reason why those should have been nuked, so I tend to think that your reverting there rather than discussing and counterediting other parts was probably provocative of the eventual more aggressive argument. Putting those back in would probably be a good start to really fixing things. Georgewilliamherbert 10:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
was my writing, yes. But now, the introductory definition is now terrible. Like I said, if anyone can do a better job, I would be the first to congratulate them. I was the first to tell Denham Gray on brint.com that his analogy for KID was great. Why? Because I know how hard it is to write one. The KM article has reverted to becoming one of those 'no one knows' what it is kind of subjects.
I knew going in that there would be people upset about all my references. And that's exactly what happened. So now, you want to leave all the material I wrote up, but take out the references to my ideas.
I would really appreciate if you would just start the article over from scratch, this is almost too strange for me to witness. I've notified Knowledgeboard.com what is happening here, and to remove the link they set up for me to wiki entry on KM.
Novelties like wikipedia are good for simple or well established ideas, but when it comes to creative thought or new ideas, wikipedia simply doesn't work. That's why wikipedia will never rise above being an average source to gather information. This KM article was the test, and sorry, but wikipedia has failed.
is that no one built upon the ideas I listed already there. Those were time tested ideas. Not spur of the moment ideas. Those ideas had gone through 4 years on brint.com, 2 years on knowledgeboard.com and countless discussions with other KM practioners.
It seems to me, and I predicted this, that wiki took offense to the fact I (as in one person, not some 'community') was putting up all these ideas, and using the best of the ones sourced from brint or Nonaka Takeuchi. I know Nonaka's book like a fine tooth comb. I know Jerry Porras and I've discussed KM with him in context to his book Built to Last. I've exchanged ideas on the meaning of quality with Robert Pirsig, who helped clarify some ideas in my unified theory. What I'm currently reading on the wiki KM introductory definition (the rest of the article is mostly mine, with a few really bad edits thrown in) are a bunch of seat-of-the-pants ideas about KM that are purely whimsical. I don't really care, but I don't want my ideas associated with those. Knowledgeboard set up a link to wiki specifically because I was editing the page, but that's going to be taken down now.
I have no interest in having my 'name' out there. It's already 'out there'. I was doing this as a service to wiki, that's all. I put my website up there so someone could source my references.
Seriously, I wish the wiki community all the best, just don't use my ideas. Use your own, but don't take mine and de-reference them and change them. Because then they don't make any sense. I'm trying to uphold wiki to a high standard here. That's the point. Isn't it obvious?
"Unless you are asserting that your perspective on the subject is absolutely unique and cannot be separated from you yourself (in which case it would have no place here)."
That's right, it has no place here. Now you're getting it. My perspective is unique, and of course, this notion of someone having a unique perspective is new to the annals of academic history.
That's what I've been saying all along, wikipedia will never rise above being an average site. It's a rehash of what's already out there. Never interested me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.221.51 ( talk • contribs)
but you seem a bit in over your head as an editor of KM. Before Brint changed their forum format it was the largest in the world, and Yogesh asked me be the editor for the forum, but I didn't have the time.
I'll be honest with you, I knew this whole KM wikipedia things was doomed to fail. Writing what KM actually is, when anyone can change it? heh heh
It proved useful in that I refined my KM definition because I knew there would be an audience, so it helped in that way. So in that way, I'm actually very happy about it.
Wikipedia needs to evolve. It's too stuck in the morass of the known.
I was hoping you would take a look at User:Paulo Fontaine's recent contributions and consider blocking him, especially for this edit, this edit, this one.... (I'm going to you because you have some experience with him, according to his talk page.)
Btw, belated congrats on your admin-hood! I'd always assumed you were already an admin. Consider the count a retroactive, unofficial 103 "support" votes. Cheers, JDoorj a m Talk 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I was just told by an editor from wikipedia that 'wikipedia does not publish original ideas'. I kid you not. Please remove all references from Einstein, Galileo and Newton right away.
So my website, or Brint.com, or my papers, they conveniently don't qualify as secondary sources. How many ways can you spin this? In my opinion, you're all just bugged that one person could publish so much material. That must be the case, because you de-reference everything I put up. Nazipedia.
From what I can see, none of you really have a clue about KM. So much so in fact, that there wouldn't be an article if you removed everything I posted up there. There would be just that lame KM definition, one of the many attempts to define KM that go no where. So the only thing right now that's making the km entry even worthy of a visit is what I've written. heh heh. That must just bug you to no end.
The only reason I even took on writing it was because, if you read the history of the entry, everyone was really dissatisfied with it. It was called 'unencylopedic', a really poor piece for a worldwide site etc. So, where were you with all your 10 year old IBM papers. Were you too busy to edit the entry?
"Sit back and have a look at the article, folks. it is in very poor shape."
"092605/SL - Kff, Banno, I am new to Wikipedia. I saw the KM page and thought - wow, for a global encylopedia this is a bad represenation of KM."
So I completely re-write it, which takes almost a month, people really like it, but lo and behold, they are POV's! POV's!! Ahhhhh. Delete. Let's go back to the crap. No, wait, we'll take out all references to the writer, BUT KEEP HIS MATERIAL. And if he doesn't like it, we'll ban him. Nazipedia.
Hello,
I would appreciate your feedback at User talk:Mwalcoff/Candidates and elections, my proposal to bring some order to the candidates situation. I plan to soon create sample articles to demonstrate what I mean on the page. Please let me know what you think on my talk page. Thanks -- Mwalcoff 05:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I do not know exactly what you want me to merge. Although I know how to do straightforward moves and what to avoid doing, this is the first of these history fixups I am involved in. I thought the admin would do a temporary delete while the admin patched up the history. Please let me know how to proceed. Chris the speller 16:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Editor_Violating_Probation_for_Disruptive_Editing, we have our 3 admins. If you could do the blocking and follow the instructions on AN, it'd be appreciated. The consensus seems to be for a week per his general probation. If you think it should be shorter, that's fine too. -- Woohookitty (cat scratches) 03:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
You said in the comment to me you moved the AUES page to my userspace. Where exactly is the article?
cheers,
Shenki 04:37, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guy, thanks for your support in my RFA, which succeeded. If I can ever improve or help in any way, please let me know! :) — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-16 11:17Z
Hi I need your advice on something. I've been watching for a while the article about a CEO I know half personally. Hes famous because of hurricane katrina, however there is a bit of confusion because the company he owns is quasi associated with a kenyan company that buys up expired domain names. No laws get broken, but in his article a group/individual keeps reposting a section about him that 1) isn't true and isnt backed up by anything except their own websites 2) is slanderous 3) is IMO extremely POV. Wondering if you could take a look and advice me on what I can do (ie remove the section or whatnot). The article is
Sigmund Solares.
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Frank.Feather 11:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)I understand what you mean. But if you read the item you will find it purely factual statements. But if that is your policy I will get somebody else to submit it. In that event, can you set it up as a stub? Thank you. Frank Feather
Frank.Feather 11:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)I have resubmitted the article. Purely factual. Please read it again, and advise. All the facts jive with what is in the public domain. All the books are listed at Amazon. If you need further third-party sources in the Reference section, I can provide them. I am not on some ego trip here; that's not me. I just would like to be listed along with my peers in the futures research field. Thanks for your consideration. Frank Feather
Frank.Feather 13:32, 17 February 2006 (UTC)I was offering you what I thought was a fair and verifiable version. I have no desire to impede on your edits. I was working on it at the same time as yourself. In any event, I respect your judgment and request that you now please delete my entire page. Thanks! Frank Feather
Frank.Feather 14:01, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Thank you! I have done so. I also deleted all but the first line. By the way, just so that you know, the guy from Sierra Club who you cited as having coined "TG,AL" -- that's the first I have ever heard of it coming from there. The closest prior version that I am aware of was "Act Local, Think Global" by Dubois. Certainly within the Futures Research community, it is generally agreed that I coined the phrase. It occurred in a brainstorming session for the theme of the conference. (The 6300 people in attendance from 54 countries took it and spread it into the vernacular.) Somebody mentioned Dubois's line and I said "That's it! But it's the wrong way round; and it needs to be more active." I then suggested Thinking and Acting and that became the theme of the conference and the book of papers for the conference. The only evidence for this rests in the ears/brains of those who were in attendance, plus the conference program (which I have a copy of, and could scan the cover as an image for the page; same for the book cover). As for my credentials in China, all I could offer is a Certificate of Appointment, in Chinese, with a Seal, provided by the Government (which again I could scan). But otherwise I don't know how it is possible to verify credentials of this nature. And, for sure, a person of ethics does not go around claiming something as a credential which is not true. I also think that words such as "international" ought to be valid. I could be a Canadian futurist (i.e., only known in Canada), for example. In fact, I do 95% of my work outside of Canada; indeed, the Canadian market is not big enough to rurvive as a futurist, LOL. Anyway, thank you for your time. Sorry to cause you aggravation and waste your time; I appreciate what you are doing at Wiki. That was not my intent. I was just trying to add a valid and fair entry. Thanks for being patient with my futile efforts. Cheers! Frank
Frank.Feather 14:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Thanks! I had another question. In the "Books" which I listed, I later added more complete publishing information for each one. I did this in an attempt to help verify credentials. But those details seem to have gone. What is the correct protocol for that? Frank
I don't know if you remember this largely uneventful AfD. I came across it backtracking the contribs of an anon who kept making whitewashy edits to pages about high-profile conservatives. I had to laugh because I went to school with Ryan Horn. He's absolutely not notable enough to warrant his own article. I'm not leaving this message because anything needs to be done -- I think the AfD took the proper course of action -- but only because it's not every day you find someone you know in AfD (unless you constantly write articles about your friend), and you were marginally involved, and I had to tell somebody. Cheers, JDoorj a m Talk 14:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Dear JzG, please could you have a look at the Deletion review page regarding plazoo. You made up your mind but regarding some strange findings about "the war against blogrelated entries in wikipedia", i would like to ask you as an admin to mediate as i think you are pretty neutral to this issue, although you have an opposite meaning about the deletion. I hope you agree that at least some closer look to the AfD regarding the voters and their closeness to that "war" might be necessary... T.Kik.
I was going to retype that, but what the heck. (You think your typing is bad... I've been trying to work up my depression/ME into an excuse for mine – affects motor control, you know, ahem.) Anyway, are you at all interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Science, you having some Robert Hooke reprints an' all? Just a thought from a passer by. JackyR 01:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
i noticed you removed my image at the top of my talk page titled jiang=shame. however the only reason i posted that image is because jiang posted a image on his talk page titled "taiwan=shame" which is a personal attack toward me. if you think my image is unhelpful, you should remove his image from his talk page as well. by the way, you shouldn't edit ppl's talk page. if you feel sum of the content is unhelpful, post a message and i will read it. -- Freestyle.king 05:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
"Not found" means that no posts by the suspected sockpuppet were found using the range of ips which the user suspected of using sockpuppets was using. Obviously they could be using the sockpuppet account on a different ip. However maintaining a bunch of isp accounts is expensive and confusing even to them so things get far fetched when you see posts coming in from a lot of isps. Who would spend that much time and effort just to mess with us? Fred Bauder 13:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
You think it's about time someone closed to DRV for that article? I seem to do most of the DRV closings these days, but if I do this one I'll be crucified (not that I'm not very tempted). Anyway the debates gone on for almost a week, and no one's adding anything to the dialogue. The process was already tainted when User:Docu spammed well over 20 users, telling them to vote to keep it (no such effort was made to keep it deleted). It's a mess. - R. fiend 17:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Guy, is your new sig not supposed to be clickable from your talk page? rodii 21:41, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
What's the point of placing {{deletedpage}} on this page if it's not protected? -- TML1988 00:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Please look into this attack page (which mentions me) when you can and let me know what I can do. Thanks... KHM03 00:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
What happened to Just zis?
You may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Democratic peace theory (Specific historic examples) since you voted on the deletion of the same text under a different article name. Septentrionalis 17:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Identity crisis? 3 user names in one week! FloNight talk 18:56, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Guy, could you help out here? New user User:Kathychen has created an article that's pretty iffy wrt copyright. She's asking me for advice on how to proceed but I just don't feel like I'm enough of an expert on this. I don't want to just throw the copyvio flag--she seems like a good contributor. The initial discussion was at Help desk, but the article in question is Berman Bioethics and her comment on my talk page is here. Any advice appreciated. rodii 22:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
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Your animus against this non-commercial site is a little bit disgusting and all too obvious. First you denote any link to it as "linkspam" because someone broke some unwritten rule about having "too many links" (whatever that means exactly, and in spite of the fact that all links were non-commercial and relevant), and then you blast it because Alexa didn't report a lot of traffic to it within DAYS AFTER IT CHANGED DOMAINS. Looks like that site didn't need Wikipedia after all:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000CMO6QK/103-3956901-1045461?v=glance
-- which doesn't go to say that Wikipedia readers don't deserve to have links to information about the historical practices of the Church, and the practices of millions of traditional Catholics, people who are apparently hated by Anglicans. Your religious bigotry is showing and has been for a while now.
Well, there aren't 100 links now (how many non-commercial, added-by-human-hands, relevant links to specific, relevant pages on relevant entries is too many again?). In fact, there isn't even one, as far as I know, so what is the problem? When are you going to stop deleting any and all links to a traditional Catholic site -- one whose present Alexa report blows your "nevermind the Christmastime domain name change, it OBVIOUSLY gets all its traffic from Wiki" theory out of the water -- just because of your false categorization thereof? How much of your malfunction in this regard is a result of ego, how much is a product of your anti-Rome Anglicanism, and how much is a matter of too many falls from your bicycle? Especially given Google's ranking of Wiki pages, your "linkspam" routine is libelous.
Who says I think anything would actually help the "case"? The power-mad can't be reasoned with. Now, what is the reason for pointing out the page on "Legal Threats", a page that encourages editors to set up other pages to complain about each other endlessly while nothing gets resolved and policies still aren't clarified? What good are "Requests for Comment" pages that turn into gangbangs when the one guy who has no life outside of Wiki gets all his pixel friends to pile on against the editor whose friends are real? "Requests for Arbitration" are the same; the administrators know one another, and if one doesn't like you, they all don't like you. And as for "personal attacks," read how you've characterized the site you've labelled "linkspam," hypocrite.
I'm not sure why you're waiting on such a thing because I just got done saying that "I don't think anything would actually help the 'case'". If you want to apologize and restore links to the pages you said you would allow in your benevolent magnificence, then fine, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for you to admit being wrong or to live up to your word. As to Dominick, he has nothing to do with anything I've said as he is not an admin. Besides which, anyone who thinks it a favor that you deleted comments meant to bring his attention the fact that he admits making non-factual pronouncements (from Dominick's User Page: "I often like to look at NPOV-challenged articles, where secondary activist sources imagine they are primary players, to make pronouncements which are not factual") is not worthy of serious attention.
The links you characterize as "linkspam" weren't added by anonymous users; they were added by registered users -- users who adequately defended the links and to whom you made promises which you later broke. So what's the point of registering? And what does "good faith" or "bad faith" have to do with anything as far as posting a link goes? Either a link is relevant and informative and is on a relevant entry or it isn't -- or do you regularly conduct inquisitions as to the nefarious motives an editor might have in posting a link? And what nefarious motives could one have in, for example, posting a non-commercial, perfectly orthodox (Catholic standards) link to a page on the Rosary anyway? Money? Sex? Drugs? Power? Entree to an incredible lightness of being? What?
I didn't think this would "go anywhere" anyway. I didn't think you would apologize for mischaracterizing that site and links thereto, and would have bet against you leaving any link to that site alone. How my registering would change your attitudes is beyond me, but you can track the IP and call me anything you like. How about "Punkin'"?
You characterizing the links as "spam" doesn't make it so, especially since there is no policy which states how many links are too many. Given that, what does anyone from that site have to apologize for? Why should they apologize for "linkspamming" when they didn't believe they were "linkspamming"? Clarifications as to policy were asked for, and none were received. Instead, links were removed and labeled "spam." Period, the end. Links like this were left up, while links DOT com/customstimeafterepiphany2a.html like this were taken down, with no reason given except that the links of the second category are "linkspam" because there were "too many" links to that site, even though the links were to very specific pages, the site is non-commercial, the links were added by hand, and there is no magic number I've seen that indicates how many links are "too many."
Who said anything about not including the Catholic Encyclopedia (though, since the Catholic Encyclopedia was written before Vatican II, it would have nothing to say about the traditionalist "movement" with regard to the entry "traditionalist Catholics")? And as to the site-owner's "strong POV," have you read the Contact page for the site? Have you seen the spectrum of traditionalists that populate the site's forum? Of course the site-owner's view aren't "mainstream"; the site is a traditionalist Catholic site, and one of the very few that is pan-traditionalist (i.e., it is welcoming of and includes information relevant to "indultarians," those who attend Masses offered by the S.S.P.X. and the like, and sedevacantists -- none of which are "mainstream"). What sort of "authority" are you looking for? An imprimatur? On a traditionalist site? By demanding such "authority," you are basically saying that the traditionalist Catholic view can't be heard at all -- and those traditionalist views and traditionalist practices are also the historical views and practices of the Church, another reason to include links to that site and the reason why the site is linked to from the history departments of various universities (and not only that, much -- nay, most -- of the instruction involved would be of interest to "mainstream Catholics" anyway). Is there some error you've found at the site? Is there another traditionalist site that does that that site does? Is there a better, more informative, more nicely laid-out, and more exhaustive traditionalist site out there that is non-POV with regard to traditionalist "factions"? Since you've admitted to being an "outsider," how can you know what is a strong "POV" that "distorts" what traditionalists believe and what isn't? Why don't you go ask at the forum there if the site accurately reflects the beliefs and practices of traditionalist Catholics and let trads from sedes to "indulters" answer? Go ask at Angelqueen forum, a much larger forum, that also links to that site. Go find an traditionalist priest and ask him (pick any kind you like -- sede, S.S.P.X., F.S.S.P., I.C.K., doesn't matter because that site includes them all and doesn't take sides).
Yeah, "whatever." No skin off your back, right? It's not a site you spent years working on that, for no good reason at all, is getting slandered by an "encyclopedia" that Google ranks above all else.
Now why would someone pause to think about that before edit-warring links in over 100 articles if that person didn't think that what he or she was doing was wrong? And what do you mean by "of no conceivable relevance to dissenting Catholicism"? Are you referring to that disambiguation page? Is that all you got?
Once again, we are not talking about links to pages on bells (and, BTW, the traditional view is very different from the mainstream Catholic view. Bells are for ex., are always used during the Consecration during the traditional Mass rarely if at all during the Novus Ordo -- and there are differences with regard to incense and the use of relics in altars and a million other things); we are talking about the entries for traditionalist Catholics, liturgical year, Catholicism, Lent, Advent, Christmas, Easter, and a few other calender-related entries (since you don't seem to know, traditionalists use an entirely different calendar and Missal, their Mass readings are different, etc.).
I don't know whether admins are "evil" or not, but they seem to be ignorant of the facts concerning traditional Catholicism and very shy about explaining the rules they expect others to live by and know by some psychic means (since nowhere is there a, for ex., "any more than 10 links is spam!" rule that I've seen). And seeing how the website in question has more traffic since it got purged from Wikipedia, your continuing on about anyone from that site using it to "boost page rank" is silly.
As to this "minority view" label, yes, traditionalists are a minority (so are Orthodox Jews; perhaps we should purge links to their views?), but their views aren't some "fringe thing" (many traditionalists attend regular parishes at Masses offered with the local Bishops' permission). And especially given that the rumors are flying hard with regard to Benedict XVI's "normalization" of the S.S.P.X., the information contained at the site will be even more needed.
I think you need to look at the Talk pages for the Traditionalist Catholic entry, where MONTHS were spent in debate with Dominick while the page was locked down half the time. That entry, BTW, was taken almost ENTIRELY from DOT com/traditionalcatholicism.html this page (links to the encyclicals at Fish Eaters, of course, just had to be changed to be directed to papalencyclicals.net or ewtn.com, even though it was Fish Eaters whence the article was taken, it was I who wrote the article, and even though "papalencyclicals.net" has no more "authority" than FE. And now there can't even be a link to the site at all anywhere at that entry. He even took down a link to an encyclical at FE and replaced it with a link to one at a commercial site ( http://www.lutgentrading.com/) That is the level of animosity shown toward that site by a mainstream, anti-trad Catholic editor who worked on that page and which is the genesis of this whole "let's get FE" game started by Dominick and picked up on by admins when it was discovered that there were "too many" links to that site -- a rule that has never been fully explained (one can't have "too many links" to papalencyclicals.net, apparently) and which led to the "night of the purge" when alllllll links to the site were deleted by a slew of admins (still without explanation of what exactly the rules ARE) and I lost it, and got frantic and angry. And no one would listen to anything I or anyone who liked my site at all had to say. "Linkspam" was the only word that mattered, and all the "how many are too many?" and "how can it be spam if the site is non-commercial" questions were ignored in themselves, only to be answered with the accusation that I was wanting to "boost page rank" (an assertion which found "evidence" -- now demolished -- in the fact that after the "purge" which came days after a Christmastime domain name change, page views fell acc. to Alexa). I offered to give an admin access to a temporary username/password to the site so they could log in and look at the traffic stats themselves. No response. No defense was ever listened to. The "linkspam" label was all it took, and now the site is blacklisted -- even though I obviously had no idea that there was any rule-breaking going on given the RfC against Dominick in which I, myself, listed a long list of Wiki links to FE for all the world to see.
And note, too, that Dominick was not an admin when he was going around Wiki deleting all links he found to FE (and is not an admin now). He was leaving up links like the one to that St. Brigid's parish linked to above (complete with embedded midi file and everything) while taking down the FE link on the same topic, presented above for contrast. At one entry, for ex., he'd take down one link to my site and add TWO links to another site, all while calling my site "linkspam." And while he was doing this sort of thing, he was calling FE a "BLOG" in some edit summaries. He even had this to say about FE:
Aside from the same sort of nonsensical English that was the issue of (literally) MONTHS worth of debate for the traditionalist Catholic entry -- and which, in this particular case, could be paraphrased, "if a Bishop falters with sufficient glee and 'shadenfreunde' (ahem), you're not considered a trad by FE unless you bang a gong" -- what a lie is his intimation. The lies about disliking "sedevacantist adventures" (climbing the Himalayas maybe?) and not attending SSPX chapels putting one outside FE's "selfserving" definition of Catholicism are so blatantly FALSE that it is disgusting, especially since I, the person who runs that site, have never set foot in an SSPX chapel in my life. Any look at the forum there will show those lies up for what they are. So he lied right in my face and to "the world" (via the public RfC which Google finds very quickly) about my site, and went about, as a non-admin, deleting any link to it he could find. I go to arbitration and file an RfC trying to get help, and instead get a "well, yeah, it's all linkspam! Let's delete!" -- still with no solid answers as to how many links are too many and having been totally unaware that I broke any rule at all.
As to "third party references," I never mentioned Amazon reviews. You've been challenged to ask traditionalist Catholics what the deal is. Or just go visit traditionalist Catholic websites and look around. Compare DOT com/beingcatholic.html this page with any other instructional trad site out there, and as you do, keep in mind that FE is pan-trad and doesn't take sides in the debates among sedevacantists, "SSPXers," and "indultarians," etc. You will not find another site like that. I know that for a fact because that is "my world," and you don't because you haven't looked into it and are an "outsider." That is why this is so frustrating, and this tale is why I come off as pretty pissy about it.
As to an "agenda," I am a traditional Catholic and my mission in my life is to teach others about traditional Catholicism in a pan-trad way. With regard to Wiki, I worked on the trad Catholic and other such entries in the same way a biology teacher might want to provide information about a certain biology topic but is not interested in writing articles about teddy bears (I am now too busy to become a Wiki Editor as a major hobby, and am too "beat up" after the endless debates anyway). I don't give a flying fig about "search engine optimisation" -- well, that's not true; of course I care, but that's not the thing. The thing is, or at least was, with regard to Wiki, providing information about traditional Catholicism (which is what I spent months doing at the entry for that topic) and providing links, on relevant pages, to further information for those who are interested. Yeah, it'd be nice to have links on a few pages (Advent, Lent, Christmas, Easter, Sacraments, Sacramentals, Liturgical Year, Catholicism, and, at least, at the Traditionalist Catholic entry), but at this point, though, I just don't want my site to be slandered as it is, or blacklisted like some sleazy porno site, with that "linkspam" label next to every removal of any link someone might add. I've spent years researching, writing, and HTML-formatting that site, spending hours even just trying to find just the right picture for a given page, and am sickened to see my work being labelled with the same sort of invective one would rightfully hurl at an e-mail with V*I*A*G*R*A as the subject line. Seriously.
Ahem, you don't find it absolutely rich that you, an Anglican, presume to "excommunicate" me? Your friend, Seamus, is "in communion with Rome," but I, am not? You might want to call my parish (a regular Diocesan parish in the Archdiocese of Indianapolis) and inform my priest (one of those F.S.S.P. priests who operate directly under the Pope); perhaps he can arrange something lovely with a bell, book and candle to make my "excommunication" formal and memorable. But what is your point anyway? If one were wanting to worship in the traditional way, whether in or out of "communion with Rome" (either way is covered at FE, which takes no sides), one shouldn't expect to find information about how to do so or links to such information at Wiki? Why not? What at that site would offend the sensibilities of Seamus?
"Wikipedia guidelines" are more than just "very firm," apparently; no one may add any link to the site in question. Not any at any time on any entry, not now or ever in the future, and any link found will be presumed to have been added by me -- and for the cause of "vanity," at that, even though I don't even post my name at my site (how was my "vanity" served by spending months working on the "Traditionalist Catholics" entry? I forget...). And isn't it curious to you that, on the one hand, my site is lambasted as a "monograph" while, on the other, any link added to it is presumed to have been added by someone "associated with" it? Hey, can people who visit EWTN and ask questions, hang out on the discussion forum at Catholic.com, or use the Catholic Encyclopedia ever add links to those sites?
Yes, I know that the people who took down the links to the site that night weren't admins, which just goes to show the problem. If you didn't know you were breaking some (STILL unseen) rule about "too many" links and saw a group of non-admins -- with your "archnemesis" Dominick among them -- coming at you like that, what would you think and how would you feel? Then throw in the fact that it was all done right in the middle of RfCs, requests on my part for arbitration, and trying to get information as to what exactly the rule is. If a group of trads all ganged up together and starting taking down ALL links to some site or other en masse, wouldn't that be seen as the totally unfair actions of a cabal of agenda-driven meatpuppets? And if no link were even allowed again -- not ever, not even one, not even on an entry that gets its information from the site in question -- wouldn't that be seen as a bit over the top?
As to an "agenda," if you think neo-con Dominick doesn't have one, you're not looking hard enough. Neo-con Catholicism and neo-con politics, that's his thing (he, BTW, has an account at Free Republic and was all over the entry for that forum). Not once, for example, have I seen him work on the entry for waffles, which is a good thing, really, or else we'd be hearing about how President Bush eats them (though it'd be written in English so mangled that the waffles would be portrayed as eating Bush).
Remember: it is not possible that you have a neutral perception of my work. Alas and alack and whatever. I doubt the slander will stop, but know that it is slander -- now with accusations of "vanity" and "excommunication" on top.
I like fish. Well, sushi mostly. Does that mean we can't be friends anymore, Guy? · Katefan0 (scribble)/ poll 22:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
i was just reading the latest rant from JG that you posted on the Gastrich evidence page. What is strange is that there seemed to be abosolutely no justified reason for him going off like that. If you look at CDThieme contributions at the time he nominated that page for AfD there was no reason to believe he did it except he thought it was non notable. Prior to Dec 8th 2005, CDThieme ( talk · contribs) had zero interaction with Gastrich. This is striking since it highlights Gastrich's "everyone is out to get me" mentality that, to be frank, looks a lot like paranoia. David D. (Talk) 21:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so much. How did you find me, sir? Chris 00:44, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
You may want to re-visit your AFD opinion on this figure. As noted in her article, she received an Emmy award for invesitgative journalism, which seems like a pretty good claim for notability. Citation here. - Colin Kimbrell 05:32, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your comment at AFD ZuluPad:
Even with over 30 Google hits this is still not notable. Looks like vanispamcruftisement to me. Just zis Guy you know? 23:42, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I respect your opinion, but if ZuluPad is non-notable, what makes the other applications shown here notable?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_Wiki
None of them are any more developed than ZuluPad, and each of them has it's own page. I would like to continue developing the Desktop Wiki article, as I think it's an interesting new trend in software development, but I don't see why this application shouldn't be listed. I urge you to reconsider your vote. Omeomi 00:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Left a message at Wikipedia:Deletion_review#pork (instant messenger). ~ PseudoSudo 23:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey JzG, isn't it against the rules (or at least guidelines) for editors to go trolling for votes on an AfD? (And yes, I'm talking about the latest batch of 9/11 conspitacy articles.) Thanks, -- Aaron 23:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I've posted a reply to your count of "unique" Google hits for this subject. I'm not asking you to reconsider your vote, as you probably based your vote on multiple factors, but I am trying to get folks to leave the unique Google hits thing off of AfD :)
— Adrian~enwiki ( talk) 01:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I saw your comments at the universism DRV and I found it surprising that 50,000+ hits turned into 400+ when only unique ones were counted. This is an important issue now that unique googles are being taken into account more than the old process of merely counting the totals. I was looking at old debates and I saw this comment when another user pointed out the discrepency between googles and unique googles, as he found merely 247 unique hits. "I contest this claim. Google never displays more than 1000 results, and it seems that these 247 are only unique hits among these 1000. If the ratio of duplicates is the same among the remaining hits, I would estimate about 6500 unique ones. - Mike Rosoft". Now Mike is an administrator who voted delete on the article, and it seems he makes a good point. Do you know if this is accurate? If so it will greatly affect the unique google count for any results over 1000 for any search; this stretches well beyond Universism.
And another thing, it's looking like Universism is probably going to go back to AFD. When this happens do you want to handle the nomination? I believe all such AFD listings should either argue for deletion or at least be neutrally worded. I find when people do proceedural nominations and then argue why the article should be kept it really tends to skew the voting, as people are loath to vote to delete something when no reasons are given, and even the nominator is voting to keep it. By the time a reason to delete appears in the discussion there might be half a dozen or more keep votes, which is a difficult hurdle to overcome, even when the reasons for deletion are sound. (This has been a problem in the past, and has led me to take some rather controversial actions.) I'll likely be arguing to keep it, and I'm one of the few editors it seems who ever does these relistings, so I certainly shouldn't do the nomination. I trust you'd be critical but fair. And do give this google question some thought before you mention the 400 unique hits. Thanks. - R. fiend 21:09, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
In RE to "Delete in the absensce of (a) evidence of currency, (b) the name of the magazine and (c) any likelihood of me caring anyway, since it's clearly a bit of cruft." Your opinion of caring or not is hardly worth anything. You are nothing but a moderator on a public website. And since you do not enjoy neologisms, maybe you should stop using the word CRUFT, you moron. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.107.143.173 ( talk • contribs)
The arbitration committee has reached a final decision in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/WebEx and Min Zhu case. Raul654 19:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Please see additional info on Wikipedia:Deletion review re deletion of my user page. You may wish to reconsider in the light of it. Thanks J1838 20:42, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to know if you could help me out with a page move. I posted the details at Requested Moves here
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves&oldid=41545304. If you can help me just let me know, I can fill in any detatls I have missed, its a simple page move, just the name it is going to is currently a redirect.
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Hi. I'm working on KLF discography. To aid with formatting, I created two templates. The image thumbnails I am using get passed as arguments to the templates. I've noticed that, presumably as a result of the use of a template, the Image page doesn't know that the image is being used in an article (see e.g. Image:The KLF- Burn The Bastards.jpg). I'm worried that some bot will come along and say "right, they're not being used", and list them for deletion.
If you can suggest a way round this or what might be causing it please leave a message on my talk page (as I've asked several people). Cheers. -- kingboyk 18:25, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Please check this which I made on your behalf. AvB ÷ talk 00:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm somewhat surprised you are in favour of keeping the Brian Peppers article. Peppers is a disabled man suffering from a congenital deformity who was convicted of a technical offence after an inappropriate contact with his nurse/carer. His sole claim to notability is that some nerds chose to laugh at his deformity. They must really regret the passing of
Thalidomide. I say leave the poor guy in peace.
Just zis Guy, you know?
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I keep running across your edits while browsing meta-wikipedia issues - AfD, mediation, all that. While I've disagreed with you often on AfD, and expect to keep doing so, I'd just like to say ... thanks for doing it. If you know what I mean. GRuban 17:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Would you be interested in moving St. Albans School to St. Albans School (Washington), so it can be a disambig page. I tried, but can't, since I'm not an admin (I get an error). It might avoid another mistake, like linking a pre-Columbian pope to an American school (that particular boo-boo is fixed though). I thought I'ld ask you, since you were involved in the old discussion, and are familiar with it. -- Rob 03:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I am afraid that User:Owain has tried to pull the wool over your eyes on this one. The dispute is nothing to do with "original names" of Scottish counties. It is to do with when they were created and when they were abolished. Owain has lost his attempts to claim that counties are somehow an "historic" subdivision of Scotland (see Talk:Counties of Scotland), and I and other editors are happy with that article as it now stands, and further improvements are being discussed. The counties were created in 1889 and abolished in 1975. Owain goes berserk every time it is pointed out that the counties no longer exist: they were actually abolished in a piece of legislation. He persistently tries to apply the present tense of the verb to all references to Scottish counties, and changes "former" (which they are) to "traditional" or "historic" (which they most certainly are not).
Please remove that warning from my Talk: you are being seriously deceived and taken advantage of.
I will put up a notice at Talk:Counties of Scotland to alert other editors to the issue with the templates. Do not be deceived either by User:Astrotrain backing Owain up. Astrotrain has recently publicly stated his loathing for me, and is currently engaged on disrupting as many of my edits as he can manage.-- Mais oui! 15:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I think it's a little suspicious that this user claims to be Jason Gastrich's wife, thus seemingly alleviating concerns of sockpuppetry by probably using the same IP address. A problem is that Mrs Gastrich posted an RfA after merely 2 edits, which is disconcerting.
However, your post on the page that Mrs Gastrich was a sockpuppet of God and to refer to the Bible I found inappropriate. I have since removed the offensive parts, leaving only the statement of possible sockpuppetry. I understand you may have passionate feelings about Gastrich and his involvement, but please do not deliberately publish untruths. Jfing ers 88 19:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
So this aching ListCruft remains on Wiki. Never mind. But a question, when you qualify a vote to endorse a no consensus -> keep decision with recommendations for cleanup, would it change your vote if you knew at the time that nobody was going to clean it up and it'll be stuck there with a bunch of cleanup tags forever? I would rather see people make recommendations they would be genuinely willing to implement themselves. I don't give a toss about the subject matter, it's just such a bad list for so many reasons. Deiz 03:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
JzG, ever since you met me you have impressed me with rash statements of judgements about me. I really don't understand why you have approached me in such matter. I just want us to work together on an encyclopedia. I don't see no need to accuse me, make me feel inferior, or even list my proposal on MfD, which gives the impression that you have stalked me or have a motive like a vendetta. There is a discussion page for the proposal. The dignified way to remove a proposal you do not like is to reject it. However, you want to delete it and that is not wise. I know you do not believe me in my attempts, and you do not have to. This attempt to write you here is to really to just throw away whatever has happened between you and me and start over with a proper "Hello." Please!
Welcome to wikipedia, let's build an encyclopedia! — Dzonatas 16:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if this makes it better or worse between us, we'll have to wait and see. It's good to talk, anyway. Just zis Guy you know? 17:02, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
If you are online, could do me a little favour please? I've just moved a page, but I realised afterwards that I shouldn't have moved the talk page. The only comment on the talk page is about whether it should be a dab page or not, therefore it belongs to the discussion at the redirect page not the target. Could you delete the redirect at Talk:Mr. C and move Talk:Mr. C (TV character) to Talk:Mr. C? Thanks. -- kingboyk 17:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Uh...hi, JzG. I was wondering, since I like userboxes, if you could help me with something. I need, for one, the template name for that "More Cowbell" userbox that you have, it's hilarious. Also, I would really like to have my userboxes moved to the right side of the page in a box, like yours. Could you do that for me, or at least show me how, please?
Thanks, Flameviper12 20:04, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
PS. I don't check other Talk pages to see for responses, so could you please respond to this comment on my Talk page please? Thanks...
hey man, youre not even giving me time to finish my articles before you delete them. im talking about the "R. Brett" article. Its Legitimate! he really is a well-known filmmaker in Southern Ontario! just give more time for the article to be edited. theres NO harm in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bromley2 ( talk • contribs) 23:18, March 3, 2006
hey man, hate to burst your self-righteous bubble but has it ever occured to you that i mentioned this vote to several friends of mine and that they are voting the way that THEY feel...or the fact that some of my other friends who have WP accounts are at my house and voting the way they feel as well? You need to start thinking outside the box pal, trust me, no sockpuppets here —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Whoermaster ( talk • contribs) .
And no, you really don't want to be on the receiving end of all of the trash directed at me. --
21:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
In response to my recent addition to the above page you effectively reverted my edit with the following remark in the edit history:
Please! The nickname of a person from a piece of non-canonical fan-fiction? Who is going to look for that?
The fiction in question was not "fan-fiction" - The Dark Rendezvous book in which Scout featured was published in all good book stores, and in particular in a Waterstones in the United Kingdom. Second the book is not "non-canonical" - it is considered a part of the Expanded Universe and has been the subject of an article on the Star Wars website [4]. Furthermore, the novel in question was endorsed by LucasBooks, which should put to bed any questions of being either "fan-fiction" or "non-canonical".
To rectify this situation, I suggest:
You may also wish to consider reverting your edit. I personally don't actually care, which makes me question why I wrote this. -- New Progressive 02:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Gah, I went to leave you a message but the DB was locked so I went to IRC. Just as I got in, the servers came back online and you left. Anyway, I wouldn't have removed the blue link, except for the fact that I had just tagged the page for speedy under WP:CSD G4. I'm not really sure what the deal is with that article, but apparently I was wrong about the previous deletion. It's weird; the first edit in the edit history was a section edit. Whatever, the author emailed me and it's all worked out. I'm still not sure that it meets WP:CORP, however. — WAvegetarian• CONTRIBUTIONS TALK• EMAIL• 22:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)