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Jesup, comment for you here. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
FWIW, I just made a suggestion on WT:BLP: ... any candidate representing a major party (i.e., after the primary or convention) for the US House, US Senate, or Governorship, shall be deemed a person who is public enough that their birth date can be included. While I do agree that privacy is a good think, I think most folks running for Congress are public enough to lean towards the current policy of well-known living persons' exact birthdays are widely known and available to the public... -- Sholom 00:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Hiya, thanks for the note. I went ahead and changed the prod tag to an AfD tag, so everything's linked properly now. And yes, I agree on the deletion. :) -- Elonka 19:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Please do not remove an independant reliable source from an aritlce. As usual, any such removal will be considered vandalism and reported. Thank you. --
Oakshade 01:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC) This seems to have been interpreted as a threat and it was not meant to and my apologies if it came across that way. Instead of augmenting it so it doesn't appear so, I'll just strike the whole thing. However, if this disagreement continues, it will be best to seek mediation. --
Oakshade 01:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
What do you mean POV? Dr. Madonna is the foremost scholar of Pennsylvania politics who is constantly quoted by the media. The fact is Gerlach won overwhelmingly in the GOP strongholds of Chester, Berks and Lehigh counties. That's a fact. There's no POV implied with mentioning that. Do you consider the Philadelphia Inquirer an unreliable source? -- FidesetRatio 00:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I notice you re-added the trailing slashes to the external links on Amiga. I believed as you do that a trailing slash was necessary, but after having looked at RFC 3986 (in particular Section 3), I came to the conclusion that a trailing slash is not necessary: specifically, "hier-part" can be "https:// authority path-abempty" where path-abempty can be the null string. It also looks to me like RFC 2396 does mandate the trailing slash, but this is obsoleted by RFC 3986.
Or is there something particular to HTTP that I'm missing here? Cheers -- Pak21 17:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
A youtube link that says here is the music/TV video is so clearly a copyvio that I am justified deleting it as it stands. I quite agree that other vids need reviewing. Please can you provide me with diffs of deletions that you think are incorrect? That will help me understand why/if I'm doing this wrong. -- Spartaz 16:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I have copied this over from Cacycle's talk page because I didn't want to clog up his page with this:
Unless I misread WT:EL#Video and photo sharing sites, there is no consensus for mass-deletion of YT links. Targeted deletion (WP:C, WP:V, etc) is ok (and most YT links probably fall into these), but mass-deletion is not. The repeated comment on all the deletions of Rm links to "Sites which fail to provide licensing information" for video clips per WP:EL, which I don't find in WP:EL. If I misread it, please show me where. Thanks. jesup 16:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Jesup - you seem more concerned about the edit summary than you do about the links to copyvios. We are updating the summary but I do think it would be more helpful if you could point me in the direction of an incorrectly deleted link so I can understand your objections to my actions better. If its just the summary, that's fine and fixed, otherwise we seem to be going round in circles. Spartaz 05:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, and no hard feelings. I also just want to make this work; not knowing you/jsmith/dcmartin from j.random.editor I had no idea where this project came from, what the justification was, etc - all I knew is that it seemed to be a mass-deletion, and that's something I'm quite leary of. I also felt there was something odd going on in that the summaries looked like an attempt to ramrod something without actual justification. I know now more about what you were doing and why, and I don't think anyone was trying to bypass or game the system - but as you say, anyone can make mistakes, and decisions made in (semi)-private sometimes don't go over with others as well when they're implemented. And using auto-editing tools and high-rate changes that others can't keep up with tends to make people panic. Rest and we'll see you tomorrow, and thanks. jesup 22:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Priori2ude here...I kind of got lost in all this discussion, especially since I have no idea which of my videos you're referring to. But just as general info, I am a student (and close friend) of Nicklaus Suino. www.artofjapaneseswordsmanship.com is one of his sites, as is www.japanesemartialartscenter.com which I list in my videos, per his request. I often take my own videos of him and our classes and post them on my Youtube page; I've gotten his permission to post these videos and he doesn't mind. So I can assure you, there are no copy violations as far as my videos go.
Thanks for the catch. I also responded on my talk but its more of the same.
Just so you know, I'm not really using a script - I'm just using AWB to sort though the articles more quickly and to get me an edit window to look at and edit. The problem with refs is that I find the markup confusing - a sign of age I'm afraid! I'm going to revise any future articles with links as refs manually so that I can review them after I am done. I'll also make sure I read the appropriate guidelines on refs before I do any more amendments to them so I can understand how they work a bit better.
You have the most amazing capacity for catching the odd mistakes. Very commendable and its not stalking because a) you are not harrassing me and b) I am very happy to have anyone review my contributions and constructively comment on them. Its a good way to learn and avoid future mistakes. If you wanted a quick and easy way to review my deletions try Special:Contributions/Spartaz and use the diffs to see before and after - it would make it very easy for you to see what I have done - even more if you have broadband and popups installed in your monobook as this would allow you to review my edits by hovering your curser over the button.
I really appreciate the helpful and constructive tone you have taken on this subject over the last couple of days and it has helped eliminate the stress I was finding from this project. ESpecially given, how fundamentally we disagree over this exercise. It's hard to see from my contributions but as a result of your input I have been taking considerably more care over the borderline deletions and have allowed a fair few to remain as non-commercial and therefore not copyvios. Thanks again. -- Spartaz 05:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Don't want to break WP:3RR, if you would like to stop by on Universal Image Format ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 04:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I've closed the case and reverted your page back to the previous version before the tag was placed there.-- Isotope23 14:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
In addition to your friend, there was another too. That's primarily what pushed me over the edge. I was spending all my time trying to stop them, and got sick of it. Thanks for the information, there. :-) -- Deskana (For Great Justice!) 22:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I am afraid I can't be of much help, as I am not a professional historian and I am also limited to primarily net sources. There may be specialized and perhaps expensive services that could help, but my knowledge of them is limited to the fact that we created our family tree in a free account in the myheritage portal. As you can see, I am pretty much a amateur here too. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:35, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
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Jesup, comment for you here. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
FWIW, I just made a suggestion on WT:BLP: ... any candidate representing a major party (i.e., after the primary or convention) for the US House, US Senate, or Governorship, shall be deemed a person who is public enough that their birth date can be included. While I do agree that privacy is a good think, I think most folks running for Congress are public enough to lean towards the current policy of well-known living persons' exact birthdays are widely known and available to the public... -- Sholom 00:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Hiya, thanks for the note. I went ahead and changed the prod tag to an AfD tag, so everything's linked properly now. And yes, I agree on the deletion. :) -- Elonka 19:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Please do not remove an independant reliable source from an aritlce. As usual, any such removal will be considered vandalism and reported. Thank you. --
Oakshade 01:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC) This seems to have been interpreted as a threat and it was not meant to and my apologies if it came across that way. Instead of augmenting it so it doesn't appear so, I'll just strike the whole thing. However, if this disagreement continues, it will be best to seek mediation. --
Oakshade 01:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
What do you mean POV? Dr. Madonna is the foremost scholar of Pennsylvania politics who is constantly quoted by the media. The fact is Gerlach won overwhelmingly in the GOP strongholds of Chester, Berks and Lehigh counties. That's a fact. There's no POV implied with mentioning that. Do you consider the Philadelphia Inquirer an unreliable source? -- FidesetRatio 00:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I notice you re-added the trailing slashes to the external links on Amiga. I believed as you do that a trailing slash was necessary, but after having looked at RFC 3986 (in particular Section 3), I came to the conclusion that a trailing slash is not necessary: specifically, "hier-part" can be "https:// authority path-abempty" where path-abempty can be the null string. It also looks to me like RFC 2396 does mandate the trailing slash, but this is obsoleted by RFC 3986.
Or is there something particular to HTTP that I'm missing here? Cheers -- Pak21 17:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
A youtube link that says here is the music/TV video is so clearly a copyvio that I am justified deleting it as it stands. I quite agree that other vids need reviewing. Please can you provide me with diffs of deletions that you think are incorrect? That will help me understand why/if I'm doing this wrong. -- Spartaz 16:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I have copied this over from Cacycle's talk page because I didn't want to clog up his page with this:
Unless I misread WT:EL#Video and photo sharing sites, there is no consensus for mass-deletion of YT links. Targeted deletion (WP:C, WP:V, etc) is ok (and most YT links probably fall into these), but mass-deletion is not. The repeated comment on all the deletions of Rm links to "Sites which fail to provide licensing information" for video clips per WP:EL, which I don't find in WP:EL. If I misread it, please show me where. Thanks. jesup 16:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Jesup - you seem more concerned about the edit summary than you do about the links to copyvios. We are updating the summary but I do think it would be more helpful if you could point me in the direction of an incorrectly deleted link so I can understand your objections to my actions better. If its just the summary, that's fine and fixed, otherwise we seem to be going round in circles. Spartaz 05:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, and no hard feelings. I also just want to make this work; not knowing you/jsmith/dcmartin from j.random.editor I had no idea where this project came from, what the justification was, etc - all I knew is that it seemed to be a mass-deletion, and that's something I'm quite leary of. I also felt there was something odd going on in that the summaries looked like an attempt to ramrod something without actual justification. I know now more about what you were doing and why, and I don't think anyone was trying to bypass or game the system - but as you say, anyone can make mistakes, and decisions made in (semi)-private sometimes don't go over with others as well when they're implemented. And using auto-editing tools and high-rate changes that others can't keep up with tends to make people panic. Rest and we'll see you tomorrow, and thanks. jesup 22:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Priori2ude here...I kind of got lost in all this discussion, especially since I have no idea which of my videos you're referring to. But just as general info, I am a student (and close friend) of Nicklaus Suino. www.artofjapaneseswordsmanship.com is one of his sites, as is www.japanesemartialartscenter.com which I list in my videos, per his request. I often take my own videos of him and our classes and post them on my Youtube page; I've gotten his permission to post these videos and he doesn't mind. So I can assure you, there are no copy violations as far as my videos go.
Thanks for the catch. I also responded on my talk but its more of the same.
Just so you know, I'm not really using a script - I'm just using AWB to sort though the articles more quickly and to get me an edit window to look at and edit. The problem with refs is that I find the markup confusing - a sign of age I'm afraid! I'm going to revise any future articles with links as refs manually so that I can review them after I am done. I'll also make sure I read the appropriate guidelines on refs before I do any more amendments to them so I can understand how they work a bit better.
You have the most amazing capacity for catching the odd mistakes. Very commendable and its not stalking because a) you are not harrassing me and b) I am very happy to have anyone review my contributions and constructively comment on them. Its a good way to learn and avoid future mistakes. If you wanted a quick and easy way to review my deletions try Special:Contributions/Spartaz and use the diffs to see before and after - it would make it very easy for you to see what I have done - even more if you have broadband and popups installed in your monobook as this would allow you to review my edits by hovering your curser over the button.
I really appreciate the helpful and constructive tone you have taken on this subject over the last couple of days and it has helped eliminate the stress I was finding from this project. ESpecially given, how fundamentally we disagree over this exercise. It's hard to see from my contributions but as a result of your input I have been taking considerably more care over the borderline deletions and have allowed a fair few to remain as non-commercial and therefore not copyvios. Thanks again. -- Spartaz 05:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Don't want to break WP:3RR, if you would like to stop by on Universal Image Format ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 04:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I've closed the case and reverted your page back to the previous version before the tag was placed there.-- Isotope23 14:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
In addition to your friend, there was another too. That's primarily what pushed me over the edge. I was spending all my time trying to stop them, and got sick of it. Thanks for the information, there. :-) -- Deskana (For Great Justice!) 22:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I am afraid I can't be of much help, as I am not a professional historian and I am also limited to primarily net sources. There may be specialized and perhaps expensive services that could help, but my knowledge of them is limited to the fact that we created our family tree in a free account in the myheritage portal. As you can see, I am pretty much a amateur here too. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:35, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Jesup. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
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