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I also much appreciate the contributions you have made/are making to the artist pages on wiki. Hope to see more of those.
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Have noticed that the Vincent Malo article now seems to contain some contradictions after the merger with Vincenzo Armmano. For instance he now dies in Rome and Venice and at the age of 45 and 50 and first lives in Genua for many years and arrives in Rome as an adult. In one story he is a landscape painter in the other a genre painter. See other biographies here: http://books.google.it/books?id=oFcGAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=soprani-ratti&source=bl&ots=VE7Pu4lp9u&sig=ByVTjcGO328eUIDhqt981QJjZno&hl=it&ei=TG1RTeyXGoa0lQfPmvSTCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=malò&f=false and here: http://www2.academieroyale.be/academie/documents/FichierPDFBiographieNationaleTome2055.pdf#page=133.
So it is not clear whether these two persons are actually the same. Caravaggista ( talk) 17:37, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. It would be great if you could cite in the article why you believe the two are the same person. RKD mentions Armanno, Vicenzo (not Armann) as an alternative name, but it is not clear where they base this on. Passeri actually does not talk about Vicenzo Armanno but about Vincenzo Armanno or Monsieur Armanno. The biography of the two persons seems to differ in that the one dies in Rome according to Raffaello Soprani and the other in Venice according to Passeri. Also the differences in subject matter of the paintings is striking. So it would be good for readers to understand why there is this confusion and why you believe it has been sufficiently resolved to justify the merging of the 2 articles. Caravaggista ( talk) 15:39, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
I appreciate your experience working on wiki. My favourite scientist Lawrence Krauss always repeats that in science one should not look at authority but at the facts. As far as I can tell you decide to convict Vincent Malo to prison based on one fact: that RKD mentions Vicenzo Armanno as an alternative name of Vincent Malo. But RKD does not state anywhere that it is identifying this Vicenzo Armanno with the Vincenzo Armanno of Passeri. In fact, most facts mentioned by Passeri do not seem to have any relationship at all with the facts of the life of Vincent Malo described by Malo's earliest biographer Raffaello Soprani.
If you read Passeri you will have noticed that Passeri nowhere mentions that Armanno was born in Cambray. He solely states that he was a Fleming. He further writes that Armanno was not called by any other name but Monsieur Arrmanno. This completely ties in with the alternative names mentioned in RKD for Herman Swanevelt such as 'Monsieur Armand' and 'Monsu Armanno'. Armanno would be the Italian form of Swanevelt's first name Herman. The art historian Didier Bodart has compared the biography of Vincenzo Armanno by Passeri with that of Vincent Malo by Soprani in Les peintres des Pays-Bas méridionaux et de la principauté de Liège à Rome au XVIIeme siècle, Volume 1, Institut historique belge de Rome, 1970. Bodart came to the conclusion that there is absolutely no identity between the lives of the two persons described in these biographies. He argues that Malo is a history and genre painter while Armanno (like Swanevelt) is known for his landscapes. Bodart also shows on the basis of records in Rome that it was Swanevelt who was convicted by the Holy Chair in Rome. Also the character of Swanevelt as described by Passeri as being of a distrusting nature fully complies with that suggested by Swanevelt's bent name 'eremiet'. Bodart therefore makes a strong case for the identification of Passeri's Armanno with Swanevelt. Bodart states that in only one fact does Swanevelt's biography differ from that of Armanno: Armanno died in Venice while Swanevelt died in Paris. But in any event, neither died in Rome where the Vincent Malo of Soprani died.
Based on the foregoing facts, it seems that there are enough facts for doubting the identification of Vincent Malo with Vincenzo Armanno. In fact, there are strong arguments for the identification of Armanno with Swanevelt. For this reason, I suggest that the info about Armanno not be merged with that of Malo. The article on Vincenz Armann should be restored and the discussion about who he should be identified with (Malo, Swanevelt or someone else) carried on on that page. Until the scholars come to a unanimous view on this it is premature for wiki to make judgement calls either way (including on issues such as where or from what Malo died)
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It seems you have not read what I wrote: in essence, the identification of Armanno with Malo is not secure and should not be presented as fact in wiki. An identification of Armanno is equally and even more likely. I repeat: Passeri never says that Armanno was born in Cambrai. I am also not sure how you made the judgement call that Malo died in Rome rather than in Venice (as Passeri) writes if you believe that Armanno and Malo are the same person. In wiki we should present the state of scholarship not our own judgements. If there are two conflicting views they should both be presented and certainly if they offer good arguments and are by respectable sources. Caravaggista ( talk) 19:21, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
As indicated above, my view is that the article on Vincenz Armann should be restored and the discussion about who he should be identified with (Malo, Swanevelt or someone else) carried on on that page. I don't agree with the view that RKD etc. are authorities since science deals with evidence not authority (see wiki on Argument from authority). RKD is at best a data aggregator and seems to use as its primary sources reference works from the 19th and early 20th century. They hardly ever seem to be up to speed with the latest scholarship particularly if it concerns relatively obscure southern artists like Malo who spent a lot of time in Italy. Since RKD rarely provides inline sources, we can only guess why they state that Vincent Malo's alternative name is Vicenzo Malo. I see RKD as the beginning of research as it may give you a ball-park idea about an artist and some reference articles. But then the real research starts as one needs to read the original scholarly texts or consult the primary resources (if they are available). Caravaggista ( talk) 10:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Well then the article should be renamed VIncenzo Armanno and an explanation provided why some people believe his real/alternative name was Vincenz Armann. In the end we know nothing for certain about this person since Passeri is our only, and not so good, source. Caravaggista ( talk) 14:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Have made an initial draft in the Vincenzo Armanno article for your review. Caravaggista ( talk) 15:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
If Jacob Hess writes he is the only source, I will just rely on his Gründlichkeit for that to be correct. In the end, I don't think Armanno may deserve that much attention as we don't know for sure who is and we don't have any paintings by him. His true identity is something that art historians may have arguments over. I only got involved because common sense seems to indicate that Armanno and Malo are unlikely to be the same person because their bios and specialisations are so completely different. And some of the scholarship seems to confirm that view. Caravaggista ( talk) 09:29, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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Got you. But he lived and died in Antwerp sounds so sad. FRAYK ( talk) 14:18, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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On one of those you commented about United States doctors overprescribing drugs. It is true - I am actually employed by Consumer Reports, the American equivalent of your Test-Achats or Consumentenbond, and my job is to add information to Wikipedia suggesting that in the United States medicines are far overused. Of course this is a American perspective also, and Wikipedia has to address a lot of problems about how to present health issues for various countries and cultures.
It is very difficult to learn what health information exists on Wikipedia or who is adding it. Many health articles are made by people who only develop a few articles and who do not talk with the larger Wikipedia community. Of the people who do participate in community conversations, I would say that the United States is not proportionately influential to its size, but then that does not explain why articles have the American bias you have noticed.
I am not sure what ought to be done but I favor more Wikipedia community conversations about it. Some reports are saying that Wikipedia is the most popular source of health information, and if it is popular, then it ought to be good for everyone also. This can only happen with diverse participation by people of many countries and cultures, but I am not sure how to make this happen. Thanks for commenting. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Jane,
Have noticed that the Vincent Malo article now seems to contain some contradictions after the merger with Vincenzo Armmano. For instance he now dies in Rome and Venice and at the age of 45 and 50 and first lives in Genua for many years and arrives in Rome as an adult. In one story he is a landscape painter in the other a genre painter. See other biographies here: http://books.google.it/books?id=oFcGAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=soprani-ratti&source=bl&ots=VE7Pu4lp9u&sig=ByVTjcGO328eUIDhqt981QJjZno&hl=it&ei=TG1RTeyXGoa0lQfPmvSTCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=malò&f=false and here: http://www2.academieroyale.be/academie/documents/FichierPDFBiographieNationaleTome2055.pdf#page=133.
So it is not clear whether these two persons are actually the same. Caravaggista ( talk) 17:37, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. It would be great if you could cite in the article why you believe the two are the same person. RKD mentions Armanno, Vicenzo (not Armann) as an alternative name, but it is not clear where they base this on. Passeri actually does not talk about Vicenzo Armanno but about Vincenzo Armanno or Monsieur Armanno. The biography of the two persons seems to differ in that the one dies in Rome according to Raffaello Soprani and the other in Venice according to Passeri. Also the differences in subject matter of the paintings is striking. So it would be good for readers to understand why there is this confusion and why you believe it has been sufficiently resolved to justify the merging of the 2 articles. Caravaggista ( talk) 15:39, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
I appreciate your experience working on wiki. My favourite scientist Lawrence Krauss always repeats that in science one should not look at authority but at the facts. As far as I can tell you decide to convict Vincent Malo to prison based on one fact: that RKD mentions Vicenzo Armanno as an alternative name of Vincent Malo. But RKD does not state anywhere that it is identifying this Vicenzo Armanno with the Vincenzo Armanno of Passeri. In fact, most facts mentioned by Passeri do not seem to have any relationship at all with the facts of the life of Vincent Malo described by Malo's earliest biographer Raffaello Soprani.
If you read Passeri you will have noticed that Passeri nowhere mentions that Armanno was born in Cambray. He solely states that he was a Fleming. He further writes that Armanno was not called by any other name but Monsieur Arrmanno. This completely ties in with the alternative names mentioned in RKD for Herman Swanevelt such as 'Monsieur Armand' and 'Monsu Armanno'. Armanno would be the Italian form of Swanevelt's first name Herman. The art historian Didier Bodart has compared the biography of Vincenzo Armanno by Passeri with that of Vincent Malo by Soprani in Les peintres des Pays-Bas méridionaux et de la principauté de Liège à Rome au XVIIeme siècle, Volume 1, Institut historique belge de Rome, 1970. Bodart came to the conclusion that there is absolutely no identity between the lives of the two persons described in these biographies. He argues that Malo is a history and genre painter while Armanno (like Swanevelt) is known for his landscapes. Bodart also shows on the basis of records in Rome that it was Swanevelt who was convicted by the Holy Chair in Rome. Also the character of Swanevelt as described by Passeri as being of a distrusting nature fully complies with that suggested by Swanevelt's bent name 'eremiet'. Bodart therefore makes a strong case for the identification of Passeri's Armanno with Swanevelt. Bodart states that in only one fact does Swanevelt's biography differ from that of Armanno: Armanno died in Venice while Swanevelt died in Paris. But in any event, neither died in Rome where the Vincent Malo of Soprani died.
Based on the foregoing facts, it seems that there are enough facts for doubting the identification of Vincent Malo with Vincenzo Armanno. In fact, there are strong arguments for the identification of Armanno with Swanevelt. For this reason, I suggest that the info about Armanno not be merged with that of Malo. The article on Vincenz Armann should be restored and the discussion about who he should be identified with (Malo, Swanevelt or someone else) carried on on that page. Until the scholars come to a unanimous view on this it is premature for wiki to make judgement calls either way (including on issues such as where or from what Malo died)
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It seems you have not read what I wrote: in essence, the identification of Armanno with Malo is not secure and should not be presented as fact in wiki. An identification of Armanno is equally and even more likely. I repeat: Passeri never says that Armanno was born in Cambrai. I am also not sure how you made the judgement call that Malo died in Rome rather than in Venice (as Passeri) writes if you believe that Armanno and Malo are the same person. In wiki we should present the state of scholarship not our own judgements. If there are two conflicting views they should both be presented and certainly if they offer good arguments and are by respectable sources. Caravaggista ( talk) 19:21, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
As indicated above, my view is that the article on Vincenz Armann should be restored and the discussion about who he should be identified with (Malo, Swanevelt or someone else) carried on on that page. I don't agree with the view that RKD etc. are authorities since science deals with evidence not authority (see wiki on Argument from authority). RKD is at best a data aggregator and seems to use as its primary sources reference works from the 19th and early 20th century. They hardly ever seem to be up to speed with the latest scholarship particularly if it concerns relatively obscure southern artists like Malo who spent a lot of time in Italy. Since RKD rarely provides inline sources, we can only guess why they state that Vincent Malo's alternative name is Vicenzo Malo. I see RKD as the beginning of research as it may give you a ball-park idea about an artist and some reference articles. But then the real research starts as one needs to read the original scholarly texts or consult the primary resources (if they are available). Caravaggista ( talk) 10:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Well then the article should be renamed VIncenzo Armanno and an explanation provided why some people believe his real/alternative name was Vincenz Armann. In the end we know nothing for certain about this person since Passeri is our only, and not so good, source. Caravaggista ( talk) 14:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Have made an initial draft in the Vincenzo Armanno article for your review. Caravaggista ( talk) 15:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
If Jacob Hess writes he is the only source, I will just rely on his Gründlichkeit for that to be correct. In the end, I don't think Armanno may deserve that much attention as we don't know for sure who is and we don't have any paintings by him. His true identity is something that art historians may have arguments over. I only got involved because common sense seems to indicate that Armanno and Malo are unlikely to be the same person because their bios and specialisations are so completely different. And some of the scholarship seems to confirm that view. Caravaggista ( talk) 09:29, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Jane: I have redirected your recently created article Painting (object) to Painting, which explicitly covers the object as well as the action. In my judgement this is an unneeded fork. I see you were the only one to have edited it or the talk page, but I've opened up a section at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts#Fork of painting for discussion; if the project disagrees with my action, it can be easily reverted. Yngvadottir ( talk) 12:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Got you. But he lived and died in Antwerp sounds so sad. FRAYK ( talk) 14:18, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks. Am trying to give these articles more meat, otherwise you get the impression that they are just another Dutch or Flemish painter. Viamor ( talk) 09:22, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
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