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Are you the same user as User:Joan97? I'm just curious, since you seem to have the same editing habits (notably the number of user space edits, and that you know about templates in your first edit). If you are the same user, then you should stick to one account, as it would be considered Sock puppetry, which is a blockable offense. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 22:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
The Hurricane Herald
This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of May 2008.
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Storm of the month
Cyclone Nargis was the costliest and deadliest natural disaster in the history of Burma (Myanmar). It formed on April 27 in the central Bay of Bengal, and after initially tracking north-northwestward it turned to the east. Quickly strengthening to reach peak winds of at least 165 km/h (105 mph), Nargis made landfall in the Ayeyarwady Division of Burma on May 2 near peak intensity. The cyclone killed at least 80,000 people and potentially over 300,000. Passing near the metropolis of Yangon, the cyclone destroyed thousands of buildings, and damage was estimated at over $10 billion (USD). In the wake of the storm, the ruling military junta of Burma initially refused foreign aid, and after they allowed foreign assistance, the government was criticized for its poor handling of the aftermath of the storm.
Other tropical cyclone activity
New and improved articles
Project News
Several other languages are active in the realm of tropical cyclone articles, though as much as ours. The
French Wikipedia has 76 storm articles, the
Spanish Wikipedia has 99 storm articles, and the
Portuguese Wikipedia has 116 storm articles. Each of the projects have several storm articles we do not have, and the coverage on non-notable storms outside of the Atlantic is better, particularly in the Southern Hemisphere.
During the month, User:Potapych finished working on Template:Infobox Hurricane Small, which is used for the small Infoboxes in season articles; he has updated several season article already with the changes.
Main Page content
Storm article statistics
Grade | Feb | Mar | Apr | May |
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36 | 38 | 40 | 41 |
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8 | 8 | 8 | 17 |
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123 | 130 | 131 | 129 |
B | 96 | 91 | 103 | 101 |
Start | 216 | 211 | 208 | 209 |
Stub | 7 | 9 | 9 | 9 |
Total | 487 | 487 | 499 | 506 |
ω | 2.96 | 2.94 | 2.92 | 2.88 |
percentage ≥Less than B |
45.8 | 45.2 | 43.5 | 43.1 |
percentage ≥GA or better |
34.3 | 36.1 | 35.9 | 367.0 |
Member of the month
The May member of the month is Juliancolton. Joining the project in November 2007, Julian has become an active member of the project, working on new articles in the Atlantic basin. He has created two featured lists ( List of Maryland and Washington, D.C. hurricanes (1980–present) and List of New York hurricanes), and rewrote the article on 2006 Atlantic hurricane season, which became featured during May. Juliancolton is currently working on a featured topic for Hurricane Dennis and its effects by region.
New members
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
First, I reject your request to move your Tropical Storm Alex sandbox to the main page, as I would redirect it right away. Similarly, I just merged your article you made on Hurricane Jeanne. When you're creating a new article, be sure there is significantly new content that is not in the season article. For some storms, that is problematic, since they caused so little effects to begin with. As a rule of thumbs, if a storm did not make landfall, cause damage, or cause a death, it probably cannot have an article. There are some exceptions, though it would require the article being well-written, not to mention including every piece of information on the storm available. Another exception would be to make it well-referenced. That means, every piece of information in the article must be sourced, and the best way to source is using Template:Cite web. The instructions are on that page.
So, what can you do? As it turns out, most of the storms that do not have articles in the last ten years cannot have articles, by means of lack of information. The best way to find information is a thorough Google search (try several searches), or try our project resources. That leaves three options, but all of them involve the articles being well-written, sourced, and full of information. The first is to work on an Atlantic storm article, but one that was a few decades ago. That means info might be hard to find at a short search, but most storms that caused a lot of deaths or damage that don't have articles should have some additional information to create something. The second option is to create an article on a modern storm, but outside of the Atlantic. The eastern Pacific is pretty much taken care of, meaning it'd have to be either a cyclone or typhoon (which could be difficult for some aspects of the article). The third, and easiest option, is to take an existing article (either start or stub class), and redoing the article with lots of new information. Since you like the season, what about Hurricane Earl (1998)? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 22:49, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The Hurricane Herald
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Storm of the month
Typhoon Fengshen was the deadliest Pacific typhoon since Typhoon Durian in November of 2006. The sixth named storm of the 2008 Pacific typhoon season, Fengshen developed on June 18 to the east of the Philippines, and after attaining typhoon status it stuck the island of Samar. It intensified while passing through the archipelago, reaching winds of over 175 km/h (110 mph) before passing near Metro Manila. Fengshen later weakened in the South China Sea, and it dissipated on June 26 after moving ashore in China.
The typhoon killed over 1,300 people, including 800 when the MV Princess of the Stars capsized during the storm. Damage totaled $247 million (USD), with over 300,000 houses damaged or destroyed. The damage total included $70 million (USD) in crop damage.
Other tropical cyclone activity
New and improved articles
Addition of C-class
During the month, C-class
was added to the assessment scheme. The project has begun the process of integrating C-class, though as of this publication only 8 articles in the project are at that level. A preliminary solution would be to very strictly define B-class with
six criteria, with
one proposal to automatically re-assess all B-class articles as C-class until they are confirmed to have passed the criteria. Discussion and participation are welcome on the issue.
As a result of the addition of C-class, the ω ( WikiWork) rating for C-class is now 3.5, to keep in line with the previous system we used.
During the month, the project published a page on its style for articles. The purpose for the page, as quoted from the top of the page, is to document a few existing unwritten guidelines for Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones.
Main Page content
Storm article statistics
Grade | Mar | Apr | May | Jun |
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38 | 40 | 41 | 41 |
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8 | 8 | 17 | 18 |
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130 | 131 | 129 | 135 |
B | 91 | 103 | 101 | 96 |
C | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 |
Start | 211 | 208 | 209 | 208 |
Stub | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 |
Total | 487 | 499 | 506 | 510 |
ω | 2.94 | 2.92 | 2.88 | 2.87 |
percentage ≥Less than C |
45.2 | 43.5 | 43.1 | 42.5 |
percentage ≥GA or better |
36.1 | 35.9 | 37.0 | 38.0 |
Member of the month
The June member of the month is User:Potapych. Though not officially a member of the project, Potapych is active on hurricane pages, having developed the new small infobox template introduced last month. After developing the new template, Potapych updated season articles across the board to accommodate the new template.
New members
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
All right, no problem. Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 20:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Elena85, my source of information is this running best track, which downgraded Dolly to a cat1 hurricane at landfall. Additionally, in the TC Discussion from 2100 UTC July 23, it was stated that the winds were between 80-85KT at landfall, either a strong cat1 hurricane or a weak cat2 hurricane. - Ramisses ( talk) 20:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to say that your recent edits are nice and constructive, like your ones by adding the new storm section Infobox. Keep up the good work! ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 00:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
The Hurricane Herald
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Storm of the month
Hurricane Bertha was a rare early season Cape Verde-type hurricane and the easternmost forming July tropical storm on record. Bertha became the longest-lived pre-August Atlantic tropical cyclone on record and the longest-lived tropical cyclone in the Atlantic Basin since Ivan in 2004. The second named storm of the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season, Bertha developed from a tropical wave that emerged off the coast of Africa on July 1. After initially remaining weak while tracking westward, Bertha began to strengthen on July 6, and the next day it quickly intensified to reach peak winds of 120 mph (195 km/h). The hurricane weakened during the day on July 8, and after turning to a northwest drift, it passed within 40 miles (64 km) of Bermuda on July 14 before moving northeast away from the island. Bertha became extratropical on July 20 to the east of Newfoundland, after causing minimal damage and three indirect drowning deaths.
Other tropical cyclone activity
Member of the month
The July member of the month is User:Plasticup. Joining the project in August of 2007, Plasticup first became an asset in working on the active article series on Hurricane Dean. After a period of inactivity, the user returned to produce two featured articles this month, both interesting meteorological histories. Additionally, Plasticup has focused some attention to articles in the 2005 season. Keep up the good work!
New members
New and improved articles
Main Page content
Storm article statistics </noinclude>
Grade | Apr | May | Jun | Jul |
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40 | 41 | 41 | 42 |
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8 | 17 | 18 | 18 |
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131 | 129 | 135 | 139 |
B | 103 | 101 | 96 | 15 |
C | 0 | 0 | 3 | 98 |
Start | 208 | 209 | 208 | 202 |
Stub | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 |
Total | 499 | 506 | 510 | 524 |
ω | 2.92 | 2.88 | 2.87 | 2.94 |
percentage ≥Less than C |
43.5 | 43.1 | 42.5 | 40.5 |
percentage ≥GA or better |
35.9 | 37.0 | 38.0 | 38.0 |
Project News
During July, there were two large changes to the operations of the WikiProject. First, WPTC adopted and helped develop the
WP 1.0 B-Class criteria, and was among the first projects to use a "forced" B-Class rubric as part of their assessment schemes. This means that all the articles tagged with {{hurricane|class=B|...}}
are automatically reassessed as {{
C-Class}}, unless all the values in the
checklist are marked as passed. In other words, to mark an article as B-Class, the banner needs to be changed to
{{ hurricane |class=B |B1=yes |B2=yes |B3=yes |B4=yes |B5=yes |B6=yes | ... }}
B1, B2, B3, B4, B5 and B6 stand for each of the six points in the WikiProject's rubric. The banner also has the capability to mark why an article doesn't meet the new B-Class standards: Typing the following in an article's talk page
{{ hurricane |class=B |B1=no |B2=yes |B3=yes |B4=yes |B5=yes |B6=yes | ... }}
will assess an article as C-Class, and mark that the article is not a B because of bad references.
Articles assessed as B's before the introduction of the forced checklist were automatically reassessed as C's, but they're awaiting new reviews to check if they still meet the new B criteria. These articles are listed on Category:Tropical cyclone articles with incomplete B-Class checklists. Currently, there's 117 articles in the category—let's try to shrink that number to zero before the next edition of the Herald!
The other major change to the WikiProject was the addition of three
task forces: the
storm articles task force,
season articles task force, and the
tropical meteorology articles task force. These three task forces allow WPTC to see the progress of the different areas of the WikiProject. Currently, all 1,076 WPTC articles have been assigned to one of the three task forces, but any unsorted articles will be placed in
Category:Unsorted tropical cyclone articles as they're tagged with {{
hurricane}}
.
In order to categorize an article, the banner needs to be modified from {{hurricane|...}}
to:
{{ hurricane |storms-task-force=yes | ... }} {{ hurricane |seasons-task-force=yes | ... }} {{ hurricane |meteo-task-force=yes | ... }}
which will sort the pages into the storms, seasons, and tropical meteorology task forces, respectively.
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Thats ok.... Itfc+canes=me ( talk) 09:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I'm Dylan620, a big fan of tropical cyclones, which is unusual since I'm only 12 years old. I tried to look up the path for Tropical Storm Edouard (2008) when Wikipedia told me it wasn't available yet. Then I saw a link to your 'tropical cyclones' subpage, so I went there. I was shocked at how many tropical cyclones you have kept track of. I also found it cool how you came up with your own hurricane naming lists, and gave your names to other tropical cyclones (i.e. giving Bertha to Cyclone Nargis, giving Ingrid to Typhoon Fengshen, giving Allison to Tropical Storm Edouard, giving Joan to Hurricane Boris, giving Cristina to Tropical Storm Kika, etc.). I also like how you retire storm names if a storm either kills a lot of people, does BIG damage, causes people to be downright miserable, or any combination of the three (that means you, Cyclone Nargis. You too, Typhoon Fengshen (2008). Don't get me started about you, Hurricane Katrina.) You gave Bertha to Nargis and Ingrid to Fengshen, so I'm glad you're retiring Bertha and Ingrid from your list. I like your replacement names, Beryl and Ioke, too. I make up my own storms on my own planet. One time, I gave my name (Dylan) to a Category 4 hurricane in the Atlantic Ocean that struck the Leeward Islands, the Virgin Islands, the Bahamas, and Florida, and later I gave my name to a Category 5 Super Typhoon in the far western Pacific Ocean that clobbered the Philippines, Taiwan, and Japan, killing hundreds and doing billions (2.5 of them) in damage. Try putting your name on the list! It's fun, and an honor to be on the list, no matter how strong, weak, destructive, erratic, steady, or deadly you are. Don't forget to be fair and retire your name if the cyclone you give your name to is really destructive or deadly. Oh, and I also like how you link your articles to other pages. Well, I'm signing off. Have fun keeping track of this year's tropical cyclones!
P.S. Next time you retire a 'D' name, could you please replace it with my name (Dylan)? I've been DYING to be on the hurricane lists. P.S.S. Are you going to be doing this next year? You're really good at keeping track of these tropical cyclones! P.S.S.S. Sorry my message was so long, but preteens like me usually have a lot to say. P.S.S.S.S. In case you want to contact me, do so on my talk page. P.S.S.S.S.S The path for Tropical Storm Edouard (2008) is available now.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 22:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.103.238 ( talk) 15:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Elena,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Hurricane Isabel 18 sept 2003 1555Z.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 18, 2008. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2008-09-18. howcheng { chat} 21:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I moved your page User"Elena85/65 to User:Elena85/65, since I suppose the original location was a typo. I hope you don't mind. Fram ( talk) 13:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Those images are from a satellite image program, but I really don't know how to use it. You'll have to ask someone else, unfortunately. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Sadly, I must admit that I don't believe one exists. The only pre-1970 EPHS documents I ever found from FWC were 69 and 68, both of which now have pages. A JTWC document, sans pictures, exists, but the tracking data is incomplete, only starting at "Tropical Storm Hillary" (the storm with this name formed on August 10 while south of Baja California, dissipating the next day. The best track doesn't list it, but a site with name use in the East Pacific gives the explanation that a post-season report had it as a TS, but was downgraded out of best track). The JTWC report also mentions two non-developing TDs which bookended the tropical storms (TD 1 and TD 19). More information can be gathered on CPHC's page, including impacts from all cyclones of that year in the central Pacific and even western (Denise, Eleanor, and B all affected Hawaii, and Sarah hit Wake Island) and also additional systems (an unnamed tropical depression is mentioned in their summary, with different dates than the two in the JTWC report). It's possible to have a good article without having pictures (1936 AHS is a GA, as is 1851 and 52), so I'd rely on info. Here's the links for the report and summary:
Good luck, and sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. If you add info on the Hawaiian vortexes, the depressions, and Hillary, I don't see why the article should continue to be a stub. Hurricane Angel Saki ( talk) 21:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I've reviewed your DYK submission for the article 1967 Pacific hurricane season, and made a comment on it at the submissions page. Please feel free to reply or comment there. Cheers, Art LaPella ( talk) 03:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Elena85! Thanks for the invitation to WP:TC. I'm unblocked, and I look forward to contributing with constructive and accurate information. Oh, and thanks again for the invitation! One problem, though; how do I join?-- Dylan620 ( talk) 22:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me how to join WP:TC, Elena85! It might not be for a while, since I need time to learn what I'll need to do, but when I'm ready, I'll be glad to serve the project (not just any project; it's a Wikipedia:WikiProject)! I think I'll help start an article on Typhoon Raninim of 2004, and, if User:Hurricane Angel Saki really does make that article on Typhoon Sudal (also of 2004), I'll be happy to help him (or her; I don't know what gender Hurricane Angel Saki is). -- Dylan620 ( talk) 23:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations on over 1,000 edits, Elena85!-- Dylan620 ( talk) 00:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Howdy, partner! Just dropped in to let you know: I just signed myself up for WP:WPTC! I have a news section on my user page; it's called Da Nooz, and it's for tropical cyclone news ONLY!! I'm even starting my own series of fictional tropical cyclone-related user subpages! Try to stop by my user page sometime; let me know what you think on my talk page.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 19:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Elena85? Can you please help me? I would like to make my own userboxes, but I don't know how.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 00:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
If you are going to upload images from NASA could you include the date and time in the filename? It is helpful when editors know this bit of information. Potapych ( talk) 13:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Number 20, September 6, 2008
The Hurricane Herald
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Storm of the month
Hurricane Gustav was a deadly and damaging hurricane which formed late in the month in the Caribbean Sea. It first struck Haiti on August 26 as a minimal hurricane, where it killed 76 people and damaged or destroyed over 10,000 houses. Gustav turned to the southwest, moving over Jamaica where it killed 11 people. The hurricane rapidly intensified to reach peak winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) before making landfall on western Cuba; in the country, Gustav damaged or destroyed over 100,000 houses, though no deaths were reported due to well-executed evacuations. In the Gulf of Mexico, Gustav weakened due to its previous land interaction, and on September 1 it made landfall in south-central Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane, where it caused heavy damage. Across its path, the hurricane caused 101 deaths, with an initial damage total of $20 billion.
Other tropical cyclone activity
Member of the month
The August member of the month is Cyclonebiskit, who has been on Wikipedia since April. The user helped maintain the current season articles as well as storm articles. Cyclonebiskit has written one GA, and wrote much of one of the recent tropical cyclone articles.
New members
New and improved articles
Main Page content
Storm article statistics
Grade | May | Jun | Jul | Aug |
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41 | 41 | 42 | 46 |
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17 | 18 | 18 | 18 |
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129 | 135 | 139 | 147 |
B | 101 | 96 | 15 | 15 |
C | 0 | 3 | 98 | 99 |
Start | 209 | 208 | 202 | 197 |
Stub | 9 | 9 | 10 | 15 |
Total | 506 | 510 | 524 | 537 |
ω | 2.88 | 2.87 | 2.94 | 2.92 |
percentage ≥Less than C |
43.1 | 42.5 | 40.5 | 39.5 |
percentage ≥GA or better |
37.0 | 38.0 | 38.0 | 39.3 |
Version 0.7
This month, several of the WikiProject's articles were selected for the
Version 1.0 Editorial Team's
Version 0.7 static release. The article selection occurs using an
automated process using WikiProjects' quality and importance assessments. For WPTC, this means that 29 articles will be part of this release, an increase from 13 in the
previous release. It should be noted that these numbers are based on preliminary data that can change based on updates to the database and corrections to the selection algorithm and WP:1.0's cut-off score.
The list of articles chosen for the release can be seen here. Of the selection, almost half of the articles are already featured, and eleven are good articles. There one B-Class article ( 1970 Bhola cyclone, two C-Class articles ( Hurricane Andrew, Cyclone Nargis), and two Start-Class articles ( Pacific typhoon, Hurricane Rita). As these articles will be published in a CD, it is imperative that the project improve them quickly.
The full list of all the WikiProject's articles is also available here. According to that list, WPTC's highest-scoring article— Tropical cyclone—has a score of 1969, which is very good as Canada, the selection's highest-scoring article, has a score of 2,409. That said, Extreme wind warning is the least important article we have, with a score of 227, so we may have to improve it a little bit so it isn't that low...
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 05:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Elena85! (I like calling Wikipedia users by their usernames, you know.) I'm planning to make my first contributions to tropical cyclone articles today! They're going to be for some earlier Pacific hurricane seasons. I'll be adding those templates toward the bottom that tell you the letters that the names of the storms start with, and color-code their strength.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 14:38, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Uh, Elena85, I mean less offense than physically possible, but what you requested I do? Buttons for the 1980 Pacific hurricane season? I already did that before you sent me that request.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 18:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Elena85. I saw you signed up to join the WikiProject Hudson Valley, so welcome to the project! There's lots to do, and as you may have noticed, we're still a developing WikiProject. There is always work to be done around here, and right now, our biggest goal is to get all relevant articles tagged, assessed, and cleaned up. Cheers! – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Why are you merging all my pages, can you PLEASE stop.-- 72.193.254.254 ( talk) 20:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Boris has many senteces. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellow Evan ( talk • contribs) 22:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The Hernan images has been moved because there is no room. They would probably be room if you crop the images.-- 72.193.254.254 ( talk) 03:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I have many Sandboxes including Hurricane Ekeka and Hernan even went in the sandbox at one point. User:Yellow Evan
When you merge its because of size but Juliancolton is saying t is how well the Hernan article is. And to comment your messages to my talk page are funny not upsetting.-- Yellow Evan ( talk) 15:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
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Are you the same user as User:Joan97? I'm just curious, since you seem to have the same editing habits (notably the number of user space edits, and that you know about templates in your first edit). If you are the same user, then you should stick to one account, as it would be considered Sock puppetry, which is a blockable offense. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 22:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
The Hurricane Herald
This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of May 2008.
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Storm of the month
Cyclone Nargis was the costliest and deadliest natural disaster in the history of Burma (Myanmar). It formed on April 27 in the central Bay of Bengal, and after initially tracking north-northwestward it turned to the east. Quickly strengthening to reach peak winds of at least 165 km/h (105 mph), Nargis made landfall in the Ayeyarwady Division of Burma on May 2 near peak intensity. The cyclone killed at least 80,000 people and potentially over 300,000. Passing near the metropolis of Yangon, the cyclone destroyed thousands of buildings, and damage was estimated at over $10 billion (USD). In the wake of the storm, the ruling military junta of Burma initially refused foreign aid, and after they allowed foreign assistance, the government was criticized for its poor handling of the aftermath of the storm.
Other tropical cyclone activity
New and improved articles
Project News
Several other languages are active in the realm of tropical cyclone articles, though as much as ours. The
French Wikipedia has 76 storm articles, the
Spanish Wikipedia has 99 storm articles, and the
Portuguese Wikipedia has 116 storm articles. Each of the projects have several storm articles we do not have, and the coverage on non-notable storms outside of the Atlantic is better, particularly in the Southern Hemisphere.
During the month, User:Potapych finished working on Template:Infobox Hurricane Small, which is used for the small Infoboxes in season articles; he has updated several season article already with the changes.
Main Page content
Storm article statistics
Grade | Feb | Mar | Apr | May |
---|---|---|---|---|
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36 | 38 | 40 | 41 |
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8 | 8 | 8 | 17 |
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123 | 130 | 131 | 129 |
B | 96 | 91 | 103 | 101 |
Start | 216 | 211 | 208 | 209 |
Stub | 7 | 9 | 9 | 9 |
Total | 487 | 487 | 499 | 506 |
ω | 2.96 | 2.94 | 2.92 | 2.88 |
percentage ≥Less than B |
45.8 | 45.2 | 43.5 | 43.1 |
percentage ≥GA or better |
34.3 | 36.1 | 35.9 | 367.0 |
Member of the month
The May member of the month is Juliancolton. Joining the project in November 2007, Julian has become an active member of the project, working on new articles in the Atlantic basin. He has created two featured lists ( List of Maryland and Washington, D.C. hurricanes (1980–present) and List of New York hurricanes), and rewrote the article on 2006 Atlantic hurricane season, which became featured during May. Juliancolton is currently working on a featured topic for Hurricane Dennis and its effects by region.
New members
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
First, I reject your request to move your Tropical Storm Alex sandbox to the main page, as I would redirect it right away. Similarly, I just merged your article you made on Hurricane Jeanne. When you're creating a new article, be sure there is significantly new content that is not in the season article. For some storms, that is problematic, since they caused so little effects to begin with. As a rule of thumbs, if a storm did not make landfall, cause damage, or cause a death, it probably cannot have an article. There are some exceptions, though it would require the article being well-written, not to mention including every piece of information on the storm available. Another exception would be to make it well-referenced. That means, every piece of information in the article must be sourced, and the best way to source is using Template:Cite web. The instructions are on that page.
So, what can you do? As it turns out, most of the storms that do not have articles in the last ten years cannot have articles, by means of lack of information. The best way to find information is a thorough Google search (try several searches), or try our project resources. That leaves three options, but all of them involve the articles being well-written, sourced, and full of information. The first is to work on an Atlantic storm article, but one that was a few decades ago. That means info might be hard to find at a short search, but most storms that caused a lot of deaths or damage that don't have articles should have some additional information to create something. The second option is to create an article on a modern storm, but outside of the Atlantic. The eastern Pacific is pretty much taken care of, meaning it'd have to be either a cyclone or typhoon (which could be difficult for some aspects of the article). The third, and easiest option, is to take an existing article (either start or stub class), and redoing the article with lots of new information. Since you like the season, what about Hurricane Earl (1998)? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 22:49, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The Hurricane Herald
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Storm of the month
Typhoon Fengshen was the deadliest Pacific typhoon since Typhoon Durian in November of 2006. The sixth named storm of the 2008 Pacific typhoon season, Fengshen developed on June 18 to the east of the Philippines, and after attaining typhoon status it stuck the island of Samar. It intensified while passing through the archipelago, reaching winds of over 175 km/h (110 mph) before passing near Metro Manila. Fengshen later weakened in the South China Sea, and it dissipated on June 26 after moving ashore in China.
The typhoon killed over 1,300 people, including 800 when the MV Princess of the Stars capsized during the storm. Damage totaled $247 million (USD), with over 300,000 houses damaged or destroyed. The damage total included $70 million (USD) in crop damage.
Other tropical cyclone activity
New and improved articles
Addition of C-class
During the month, C-class
was added to the assessment scheme. The project has begun the process of integrating C-class, though as of this publication only 8 articles in the project are at that level. A preliminary solution would be to very strictly define B-class with
six criteria, with
one proposal to automatically re-assess all B-class articles as C-class until they are confirmed to have passed the criteria. Discussion and participation are welcome on the issue.
As a result of the addition of C-class, the ω ( WikiWork) rating for C-class is now 3.5, to keep in line with the previous system we used.
During the month, the project published a page on its style for articles. The purpose for the page, as quoted from the top of the page, is to document a few existing unwritten guidelines for Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones.
Main Page content
Storm article statistics
Grade | Mar | Apr | May | Jun |
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38 | 40 | 41 | 41 |
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8 | 8 | 17 | 18 |
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130 | 131 | 129 | 135 |
B | 91 | 103 | 101 | 96 |
C | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 |
Start | 211 | 208 | 209 | 208 |
Stub | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 |
Total | 487 | 499 | 506 | 510 |
ω | 2.94 | 2.92 | 2.88 | 2.87 |
percentage ≥Less than C |
45.2 | 43.5 | 43.1 | 42.5 |
percentage ≥GA or better |
36.1 | 35.9 | 37.0 | 38.0 |
Member of the month
The June member of the month is User:Potapych. Though not officially a member of the project, Potapych is active on hurricane pages, having developed the new small infobox template introduced last month. After developing the new template, Potapych updated season articles across the board to accommodate the new template.
New members
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
All right, no problem. Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 20:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Elena85, my source of information is this running best track, which downgraded Dolly to a cat1 hurricane at landfall. Additionally, in the TC Discussion from 2100 UTC July 23, it was stated that the winds were between 80-85KT at landfall, either a strong cat1 hurricane or a weak cat2 hurricane. - Ramisses ( talk) 20:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to say that your recent edits are nice and constructive, like your ones by adding the new storm section Infobox. Keep up the good work! ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 00:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
The Hurricane Herald
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Storm of the month
Hurricane Bertha was a rare early season Cape Verde-type hurricane and the easternmost forming July tropical storm on record. Bertha became the longest-lived pre-August Atlantic tropical cyclone on record and the longest-lived tropical cyclone in the Atlantic Basin since Ivan in 2004. The second named storm of the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season, Bertha developed from a tropical wave that emerged off the coast of Africa on July 1. After initially remaining weak while tracking westward, Bertha began to strengthen on July 6, and the next day it quickly intensified to reach peak winds of 120 mph (195 km/h). The hurricane weakened during the day on July 8, and after turning to a northwest drift, it passed within 40 miles (64 km) of Bermuda on July 14 before moving northeast away from the island. Bertha became extratropical on July 20 to the east of Newfoundland, after causing minimal damage and three indirect drowning deaths.
Other tropical cyclone activity
Member of the month
The July member of the month is User:Plasticup. Joining the project in August of 2007, Plasticup first became an asset in working on the active article series on Hurricane Dean. After a period of inactivity, the user returned to produce two featured articles this month, both interesting meteorological histories. Additionally, Plasticup has focused some attention to articles in the 2005 season. Keep up the good work!
New members
New and improved articles
Main Page content
Storm article statistics </noinclude>
Grade | Apr | May | Jun | Jul |
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40 | 41 | 41 | 42 |
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8 | 17 | 18 | 18 |
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131 | 129 | 135 | 139 |
B | 103 | 101 | 96 | 15 |
C | 0 | 0 | 3 | 98 |
Start | 208 | 209 | 208 | 202 |
Stub | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 |
Total | 499 | 506 | 510 | 524 |
ω | 2.92 | 2.88 | 2.87 | 2.94 |
percentage ≥Less than C |
43.5 | 43.1 | 42.5 | 40.5 |
percentage ≥GA or better |
35.9 | 37.0 | 38.0 | 38.0 |
Project News
During July, there were two large changes to the operations of the WikiProject. First, WPTC adopted and helped develop the
WP 1.0 B-Class criteria, and was among the first projects to use a "forced" B-Class rubric as part of their assessment schemes. This means that all the articles tagged with {{hurricane|class=B|...}}
are automatically reassessed as {{
C-Class}}, unless all the values in the
checklist are marked as passed. In other words, to mark an article as B-Class, the banner needs to be changed to
{{ hurricane |class=B |B1=yes |B2=yes |B3=yes |B4=yes |B5=yes |B6=yes | ... }}
B1, B2, B3, B4, B5 and B6 stand for each of the six points in the WikiProject's rubric. The banner also has the capability to mark why an article doesn't meet the new B-Class standards: Typing the following in an article's talk page
{{ hurricane |class=B |B1=no |B2=yes |B3=yes |B4=yes |B5=yes |B6=yes | ... }}
will assess an article as C-Class, and mark that the article is not a B because of bad references.
Articles assessed as B's before the introduction of the forced checklist were automatically reassessed as C's, but they're awaiting new reviews to check if they still meet the new B criteria. These articles are listed on Category:Tropical cyclone articles with incomplete B-Class checklists. Currently, there's 117 articles in the category—let's try to shrink that number to zero before the next edition of the Herald!
The other major change to the WikiProject was the addition of three
task forces: the
storm articles task force,
season articles task force, and the
tropical meteorology articles task force. These three task forces allow WPTC to see the progress of the different areas of the WikiProject. Currently, all 1,076 WPTC articles have been assigned to one of the three task forces, but any unsorted articles will be placed in
Category:Unsorted tropical cyclone articles as they're tagged with {{
hurricane}}
.
In order to categorize an article, the banner needs to be modified from {{hurricane|...}}
to:
{{ hurricane |storms-task-force=yes | ... }} {{ hurricane |seasons-task-force=yes | ... }} {{ hurricane |meteo-task-force=yes | ... }}
which will sort the pages into the storms, seasons, and tropical meteorology task forces, respectively.
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Thats ok.... Itfc+canes=me ( talk) 09:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I'm Dylan620, a big fan of tropical cyclones, which is unusual since I'm only 12 years old. I tried to look up the path for Tropical Storm Edouard (2008) when Wikipedia told me it wasn't available yet. Then I saw a link to your 'tropical cyclones' subpage, so I went there. I was shocked at how many tropical cyclones you have kept track of. I also found it cool how you came up with your own hurricane naming lists, and gave your names to other tropical cyclones (i.e. giving Bertha to Cyclone Nargis, giving Ingrid to Typhoon Fengshen, giving Allison to Tropical Storm Edouard, giving Joan to Hurricane Boris, giving Cristina to Tropical Storm Kika, etc.). I also like how you retire storm names if a storm either kills a lot of people, does BIG damage, causes people to be downright miserable, or any combination of the three (that means you, Cyclone Nargis. You too, Typhoon Fengshen (2008). Don't get me started about you, Hurricane Katrina.) You gave Bertha to Nargis and Ingrid to Fengshen, so I'm glad you're retiring Bertha and Ingrid from your list. I like your replacement names, Beryl and Ioke, too. I make up my own storms on my own planet. One time, I gave my name (Dylan) to a Category 4 hurricane in the Atlantic Ocean that struck the Leeward Islands, the Virgin Islands, the Bahamas, and Florida, and later I gave my name to a Category 5 Super Typhoon in the far western Pacific Ocean that clobbered the Philippines, Taiwan, and Japan, killing hundreds and doing billions (2.5 of them) in damage. Try putting your name on the list! It's fun, and an honor to be on the list, no matter how strong, weak, destructive, erratic, steady, or deadly you are. Don't forget to be fair and retire your name if the cyclone you give your name to is really destructive or deadly. Oh, and I also like how you link your articles to other pages. Well, I'm signing off. Have fun keeping track of this year's tropical cyclones!
P.S. Next time you retire a 'D' name, could you please replace it with my name (Dylan)? I've been DYING to be on the hurricane lists. P.S.S. Are you going to be doing this next year? You're really good at keeping track of these tropical cyclones! P.S.S.S. Sorry my message was so long, but preteens like me usually have a lot to say. P.S.S.S.S. In case you want to contact me, do so on my talk page. P.S.S.S.S.S The path for Tropical Storm Edouard (2008) is available now.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 22:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.103.238 ( talk) 15:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Elena,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Hurricane Isabel 18 sept 2003 1555Z.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 18, 2008. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2008-09-18. howcheng { chat} 21:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I moved your page User"Elena85/65 to User:Elena85/65, since I suppose the original location was a typo. I hope you don't mind. Fram ( talk) 13:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Those images are from a satellite image program, but I really don't know how to use it. You'll have to ask someone else, unfortunately. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Sadly, I must admit that I don't believe one exists. The only pre-1970 EPHS documents I ever found from FWC were 69 and 68, both of which now have pages. A JTWC document, sans pictures, exists, but the tracking data is incomplete, only starting at "Tropical Storm Hillary" (the storm with this name formed on August 10 while south of Baja California, dissipating the next day. The best track doesn't list it, but a site with name use in the East Pacific gives the explanation that a post-season report had it as a TS, but was downgraded out of best track). The JTWC report also mentions two non-developing TDs which bookended the tropical storms (TD 1 and TD 19). More information can be gathered on CPHC's page, including impacts from all cyclones of that year in the central Pacific and even western (Denise, Eleanor, and B all affected Hawaii, and Sarah hit Wake Island) and also additional systems (an unnamed tropical depression is mentioned in their summary, with different dates than the two in the JTWC report). It's possible to have a good article without having pictures (1936 AHS is a GA, as is 1851 and 52), so I'd rely on info. Here's the links for the report and summary:
Good luck, and sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. If you add info on the Hawaiian vortexes, the depressions, and Hillary, I don't see why the article should continue to be a stub. Hurricane Angel Saki ( talk) 21:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I've reviewed your DYK submission for the article 1967 Pacific hurricane season, and made a comment on it at the submissions page. Please feel free to reply or comment there. Cheers, Art LaPella ( talk) 03:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Elena85! Thanks for the invitation to WP:TC. I'm unblocked, and I look forward to contributing with constructive and accurate information. Oh, and thanks again for the invitation! One problem, though; how do I join?-- Dylan620 ( talk) 22:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me how to join WP:TC, Elena85! It might not be for a while, since I need time to learn what I'll need to do, but when I'm ready, I'll be glad to serve the project (not just any project; it's a Wikipedia:WikiProject)! I think I'll help start an article on Typhoon Raninim of 2004, and, if User:Hurricane Angel Saki really does make that article on Typhoon Sudal (also of 2004), I'll be happy to help him (or her; I don't know what gender Hurricane Angel Saki is). -- Dylan620 ( talk) 23:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations on over 1,000 edits, Elena85!-- Dylan620 ( talk) 00:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Howdy, partner! Just dropped in to let you know: I just signed myself up for WP:WPTC! I have a news section on my user page; it's called Da Nooz, and it's for tropical cyclone news ONLY!! I'm even starting my own series of fictional tropical cyclone-related user subpages! Try to stop by my user page sometime; let me know what you think on my talk page.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 19:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Elena85? Can you please help me? I would like to make my own userboxes, but I don't know how.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 00:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
If you are going to upload images from NASA could you include the date and time in the filename? It is helpful when editors know this bit of information. Potapych ( talk) 13:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Number 20, September 6, 2008
The Hurricane Herald
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Storm of the month
Hurricane Gustav was a deadly and damaging hurricane which formed late in the month in the Caribbean Sea. It first struck Haiti on August 26 as a minimal hurricane, where it killed 76 people and damaged or destroyed over 10,000 houses. Gustav turned to the southwest, moving over Jamaica where it killed 11 people. The hurricane rapidly intensified to reach peak winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) before making landfall on western Cuba; in the country, Gustav damaged or destroyed over 100,000 houses, though no deaths were reported due to well-executed evacuations. In the Gulf of Mexico, Gustav weakened due to its previous land interaction, and on September 1 it made landfall in south-central Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane, where it caused heavy damage. Across its path, the hurricane caused 101 deaths, with an initial damage total of $20 billion.
Other tropical cyclone activity
Member of the month
The August member of the month is Cyclonebiskit, who has been on Wikipedia since April. The user helped maintain the current season articles as well as storm articles. Cyclonebiskit has written one GA, and wrote much of one of the recent tropical cyclone articles.
New members
New and improved articles
Main Page content
Storm article statistics
Grade | May | Jun | Jul | Aug |
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41 | 41 | 42 | 46 |
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17 | 18 | 18 | 18 |
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129 | 135 | 139 | 147 |
B | 101 | 96 | 15 | 15 |
C | 0 | 3 | 98 | 99 |
Start | 209 | 208 | 202 | 197 |
Stub | 9 | 9 | 10 | 15 |
Total | 506 | 510 | 524 | 537 |
ω | 2.88 | 2.87 | 2.94 | 2.92 |
percentage ≥Less than C |
43.1 | 42.5 | 40.5 | 39.5 |
percentage ≥GA or better |
37.0 | 38.0 | 38.0 | 39.3 |
Version 0.7
This month, several of the WikiProject's articles were selected for the
Version 1.0 Editorial Team's
Version 0.7 static release. The article selection occurs using an
automated process using WikiProjects' quality and importance assessments. For WPTC, this means that 29 articles will be part of this release, an increase from 13 in the
previous release. It should be noted that these numbers are based on preliminary data that can change based on updates to the database and corrections to the selection algorithm and WP:1.0's cut-off score.
The list of articles chosen for the release can be seen here. Of the selection, almost half of the articles are already featured, and eleven are good articles. There one B-Class article ( 1970 Bhola cyclone, two C-Class articles ( Hurricane Andrew, Cyclone Nargis), and two Start-Class articles ( Pacific typhoon, Hurricane Rita). As these articles will be published in a CD, it is imperative that the project improve them quickly.
The full list of all the WikiProject's articles is also available here. According to that list, WPTC's highest-scoring article— Tropical cyclone—has a score of 1969, which is very good as Canada, the selection's highest-scoring article, has a score of 2,409. That said, Extreme wind warning is the least important article we have, with a score of 227, so we may have to improve it a little bit so it isn't that low...
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 05:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Elena85! (I like calling Wikipedia users by their usernames, you know.) I'm planning to make my first contributions to tropical cyclone articles today! They're going to be for some earlier Pacific hurricane seasons. I'll be adding those templates toward the bottom that tell you the letters that the names of the storms start with, and color-code their strength.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 14:38, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Uh, Elena85, I mean less offense than physically possible, but what you requested I do? Buttons for the 1980 Pacific hurricane season? I already did that before you sent me that request.-- Dylan620 ( talk) 18:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Elena85. I saw you signed up to join the WikiProject Hudson Valley, so welcome to the project! There's lots to do, and as you may have noticed, we're still a developing WikiProject. There is always work to be done around here, and right now, our biggest goal is to get all relevant articles tagged, assessed, and cleaned up. Cheers! – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Why are you merging all my pages, can you PLEASE stop.-- 72.193.254.254 ( talk) 20:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Boris has many senteces. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellow Evan ( talk • contribs) 22:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The Hernan images has been moved because there is no room. They would probably be room if you crop the images.-- 72.193.254.254 ( talk) 03:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I have many Sandboxes including Hurricane Ekeka and Hernan even went in the sandbox at one point. User:Yellow Evan
When you merge its because of size but Juliancolton is saying t is how well the Hernan article is. And to comment your messages to my talk page are funny not upsetting.-- Yellow Evan ( talk) 15:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
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