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Welcome to Wiki and hope to see amny more artcles from you.Congratulations on your article about David Alter.Actually I had created the stub and it is rewarding to note that someone has expanded it so soon.I have suggested that this artcle be listed on the main page to highlight this very great scientist who is not that well known.Congratulations once again( Vr 05:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC))
Great work getting all those myth articles stubbed! You might be interested in the Myth and folklore missing articles project. -- Bookgrrl 19:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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It's usually cool to do whatever you want with your talk page (with only one exception that doesn't apply). — Laura Scudder ☎ 15:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello, when you want to link to the article about something Persian, please do not link to Persian, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the one of the options found on that page such as Persian people, Persian language, or Iran, by writing out [[Persian language|Persian]] or [[Iran|Persian]]. Regards, Jeff3000 06:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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I was wondering where I'd find the patience to look at the rest of the pages there again.... -- Alvestrand 15:52, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, I saw your reference to population for Ohlone. Those numbers are not supportable. I have moved your entry to the comment section, and bookmarked my own notes. Could we discuss them there? meatclerk 07:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC) Done, probably in greater detail since I have a source at hand. Goldenrowley 07:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
There are two criteria a project has to meet to be listed as active and/or remain ineligible for deletion or movement. They are to have activity on the page in the past 3 months and to have at least one listed member. Right now this project has no members. It looks like it has a wealth of useful data and I would welcome seeing it remaining where it is. Badbilltucker 16:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: I added myself immediately upon hearing it was in danger with no members. It is a good project with a great templates, calling others to join me. Goldenrowley 20:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm assuming you mean StubSense. A link in the "header" of WP:WSS/P sounds like a good idea, certainly. Alai 17:47, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
-->to be done asap Goldenrowley 19:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
I do hope your browser hasn't contracted whatever's ailing Grutness's. [1] Alai 07:37, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
--->keeping an eye on my browser now! reply sent to Alai Goldenrowley 19:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, just to let you know on my notes - I just completed the software that takes my notes, written in wikipedia style (I call wikitype) and they spit out HTML. The purpose is to take the dozen or so page of notes and make the publicly avialable. I still need to write a master (or index) page creator, but I see that as easy - as soon as I get a bit of sleep. BTW, could you use Milliken? or another source? -- meatclerk 09:40, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
My original notes on population are cleaned up. You can see them here -> The Population of the California Indians, 1769-1970. Sorry I don't have any numbers south of Santa Clara County, but I think I can handle that and give you totals next week. -- meatclerk 08:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! The archived discussions can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive, summarized in sections and linked to the archive itself. I only discovered the archives a while back by seeing the "A" next to "Proposals" in the small blue WikiProject Stub Sorting menu on the right. Let me know if you can't find something. Cheers, Her Pegship 20:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a little confused about this one. You listed it on speedy deletion as a "very short article with no context" and the edit summary said all links had been moved (it's still used in a couple of articles though), so I turned it back into a redirect instead. I also see you listed it in the "to be deleted" section on stub types for deletion. However I can't seem to find a record of any debate to delete or rename it logged anywhere. All I find is the sucessfull proposal to create it. Mind cluing me in on where the consensus to delete this was reached? -- Sherool (talk) 07:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: I took care to investigate of course and do it right from now on, of course. Goldenrowley 20:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem, I just got a little confused when it was listed under stub deletions with no actual deletion debate in sight. For future refence when merging stuff just redirect the old title to the new one like you originaly did. The exception is categories, redirecting them doesn't quite work as expected so we delete those. It helps to use a more spesific deletion template though, either {{ db-catempty}}, or something like {{ db|Category merged with <some other category>, no longer used please delete}} or whatever to make it more clear why it should be deleted. Tagging it with a template that says it's an article with little context is just plain confusing ;) -- Sherool (talk) 18:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, we step on each other's work. If you can, please use {{inuse-section}}. I've already almost wiped out your edits. Would hate to loss good work. -- meatclerk 07:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, don't worry too much over the syncing. Use the tag when you can please. Also, not too many appoligize either. My work in a grocery store gets me many appologize for things people never should appoloigize for; sometime it irriates me.
On Ishi, we should just forget about that until I have time for the bio on Kroeber and Merriam, sometime next year. BTW, Milliken does a brilliant job of avoiding many subjects, population, hunter-gather as examples. Nonetheless, still very good material, a cut above Margolin.
On other issues, I have had some sleep now, so I'm better. My typing might show it. Today, I need to finish some things before I get to the topic of hunter-gather. This includes two (2) flats on my bicycle. -- meatclerk 17:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
When something's been tagged for deletion via one of the "*FD processes", it'll be deleted (or otherwise) by someone working their way down the process page. If you remove the *FD tag, and replace it with a "speedy" tag, it gives the impression it's not been through the "process" at all, which will cause untold confusion when an admin dealing with "speedies" sees it, on the basis of that categorisation. At which don't they're either likely to conclude it's not speediable, i they don't look at the history, or wonder why someone is removing *FD tags, if they do. (And SFD is a relative "quiet backwater": if you did that at AFD, you'd be speedily lynched.) So in short, don't. Alai 16:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Note I encapsulated the above instructions, in newbie language, and proposed it on the Stub instruction page discussion page today. Goldenrowley 21:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
GR, I see you working at a fever pitch. Just a few notes. In the opening paragraph, "40 different tribal names" is difficult to support, especially when you are adding all the names. As you might have noted, I try to stay clear of such numbers. Hence, the reason I challenged Bruce on 1300 years. It may be true, but no one we know was around 1300 years ago. Anyhow, I should buy you a beer, or coffee, or fruit juice (in case you are Mormon), because you do such a nice job on my sloppy writing. -- meatclerk 05:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley.
I'm in the process of contributing sections on traditional narratives for all of the California groups. Initially I had thought of making them separate articles, but because I don't anticipate that they will contain extended discussions of the contents of the narratives (at least for now), their content seemed a little thin to stand alone. So I decided to go with sections in the general articles for the ethnic groups. Because I'm keying them through a template in the general "Traditional narratives (Native California)" article, it's probably desirable to be consistent, one way or the other. I'm open to discussion as to which way would be better, and I'm willing to change the ones I've already posted. Let me know what you think.
As to the title, I think "traditional narratives" is preferable to "mythology". Many of the narratives involved (for instance, many of the trickster stories) technically aren't myths; they're tales or legends, in the terminology of folklorists, anthropologists, and Wikipedia itself.... RhymeNotStutter 03:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, if you're going to continue burying these listing in one article after another, I guess I'll have to start moving all the discussions of traditional narratives out of the main tribal articles and into separate articles. I really don't think you understand the purpose of presenting these sources -- they're not citations for purposes of documentation or recommendations for further reading. I also think you may be missing the nonlinear character of an on-line encyclopedia -- users aren't necessarily expected to read an article from top to bottom, but they need to be offered a clear flow leading them on to related information. RhymeNotStutter 00:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I've put the traditional narratives material in separate articles now. I haven't deleted redundant material or put in "See also" references in the articles you're actively editing (Bay Miwok, Coast Miwok, Lake Miwok, Valley and Sierra Miwok, Miwok Mythology, Ohlone, and Pomo). Feel free to do so, or let me know if you want me to do it. RhymeNotStutter 16:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey what's up. Just teasing you. Are you done, for now with Oholone? If so, that's okay. Just checking. You see: I add, you edit. :-), but if you are on to other things, that is fine too. -- meatclerk 06:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Since, I did not hear from you, I assume you went to bed. On the intro, I started over. Here is the general outline.
Encyclopedic forms start with a condensed paragraph, not always, but mostly. Please look into this.
Done:
Off Thursday, first task: get CHSQ article on A.S. Taylor, and write wikiarticle. That's it. -- meatclerk 08:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I've fixed a variety of things you've somehow "rubbed out" or distorted (by accident). For instance, Ohlone in the current introduction is distorted; three or four times when you've moved things around the footnotes break and you've distorted titles of books and article by reducing the original. Anyway, I fixed some. -- meatclerk 06:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I also note your are not wholey familiar with HTML and floating dialogs. So, may I suggest that you not make any fancy layouts on the page. You may note, mind are simple. Intentionally so; for instance Native words lines up nicely if the browser is at full screen, but if the browser window gets reduced in size, then the Legend disappears below the text. One solution is to create an invisible outer box, the top holds the visible table and the bottom holds the legend; which now never floats away under some text.
In closing, I don't want to discourage what you are doing, but for try not to get too fancy. :-) -- meatclerk 07:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
As you can tell, I can't sleep (two nights in a row). BTW, here are my notes on salmon myths, so far.
-- meatclerk 08:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, as you know I make notes in the library and if I find anything interesting you are welcome to it. My notes on this article are for my use, but I did note that the traveler did take accounts of religion, traditions and myths. My notes may be of no use to you, but you might take note of the volume and title. Here it is. -- meatclerk 22:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
On Theodora Kroeber, I only have Ishi and it has no index, or TOC.
On Cook, I believe that his quote noting "white men" as the culprits was important. Your right; as soon as a California Indians article is written I will move it over. Till then it needs a home, perhaps a shallow home, but home none the less. But also on that, might recall one of my message about over trimming, or editing. On that, I see this as thrashing on an article that if far from complete. Bruces actions on this are about the same.
On Brown, I have removed the quotes (perhaps more than one) until the article settles. Currently, there is quite a bit of thrashing, especially the intro (perhaps my fault on that). But really I don't recall removing a quote, if I did. In any case, if I see something majorly wrong I will speak up.
More on overediting. I'm currently cleaning up my database and book collection. I have perhaps 50 books that need entry so I can track them. I have perhaps just as many notes in electronic format. So, on one of the last editing points, where you added my reference(La Penninsula), but I did not have my notes in order, I needed to spend 2 hours to fix my notes for online viewing. Note: I am not complaining or critizing your actions, it's just that I need to put my notes in order - Which is what I am doing tonight. -- meatclerk 06:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for proof reading A.S. Alexander. I will always appreciate it, as writing is not my strong point. I was always better at reading and math, but writing was a chore - perhaps because of my MSG intolerance. Anyway thanks. meatclerk 07:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Excellent work. Feel free to move the quote over. If you don't have time, I will get to it in a few days. Thanks to both of you. -- meatclerk 07:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm cleaning up my notes and I see more notes on myths. The Notes are here. Take note of 4. Myths and Legends, pg. 297¥. The scanned page is linked. Once you see what you want go back to the main page and on the top half you'll see Literature cited. From there the links (or scanned pages) are the Bibliography for the book. Lastly, I need to add the minerals for Ohlone to the list. Right now it is just San Mateo County. -- meatclerk 11:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi thnak you for the new myth notes, is super organized of you. On giving a full citations on the Ohlone page starting with Cook: are you taking the initiative on that one, or should I? Goldenrowley 21:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I going to revert the article (Ohlone) again. But before I do, I thought it would be useful to write why I am doing so.
For this person I have left two (2) message (See User_talk:Aleventh) Both message acknowledge the good work and accuracy of the citations. However, if you look at the contributions, you will note, as I have, this person has only added to this article. Likely, this person is closely related to the Ohlone. How so, I am not sure. Even so, additions show more recognition of the subject than we do. However, this person's knowledge of wikipedia is poor - as shown by the edits.
It behooves us to teach this person how to make proper edits, else we will be making corrections - without communications, and possibly errors in our corrections. If you have a counter-point, I will reduce my position to reflect any possible alternatives. -- meatclerk 03:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I found some of the additions trying to help us fill in on our requested citations. I was going to let the new persons today's edits in, and only delete those truly uncited and detrimental. Since I've already put an hour into it I'd suggest you just seehow it looks a little later in the evenint (say around 9 pm?) Goldenrowley 04:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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Very, very good job on stub sorting, this award is a token of your hard and very much needed work. Cheers!__ Seadog ♪ 13:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC) |
Hey, thanks for the Barnstar for Mythology! I haven't been working on it much lately (end of semester craziness) but hope to get back to it soon. It's a long-standing interest of mine and I've learned SO MUCH from working on the hotlist topics. -- Bookgrrl 17:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
What was it that you wanted sourced? The article is really just a pointer to articles on more specific topics that (I hope) source their details. I don't think the article is providing any "facts" that need to be sourced (I guess it could source that triple deities even exist in myth at all, but that seems kind of pointless given that each of the articles it refers to will/should already provide such sourcing. It's just a list, really. Maybe it should even be renamed to List of triple deities]]. Maybe you can tell me what you're after, and I'll see what I can dig up. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ contrib ツ 13:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you removed the merge tags on Michabo and Algonquin mythology. These articles are part of a larger discussion we're having at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America/Anishinaabe. I'm of an opinion that the word Algonquian is really only useful in linguistics, but it is often confused with Algonquin, which is a specific tribe that lives in Quebec and is part of the larger group of Anishinaabe peoples along with the Ojibwe(Chippewa). I wouldn't support an article on Algonquian mythology as the differences between Cree and Powhatan, Blackfoot and Abenaki are too vast. However, Chippewa mythology and Algonquin mythology could conceivably come under the umbrella of Anishinaabe mythology. I invite you to comment at this talk page. Leo1410 04:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Don't know how/why I didn't get my name onto Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mythology when you invited me on my talk page a few months back, but now I'm there. Belated thanks, and looking forward to continuing to spread mythinformation ;) -- Bookgrrl 00:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Dear Goldenrowley, I disagree with you labelling Beowulf mythological. The other characters surrounding him are held to be semi-legendary or semi-historical. If you call him "legendary" I would not oppose it.-- Berig 09:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Looks like you've become popular enough to have your user page vandalized... I reverted it for you. WHeimbigner 21:33, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Out of courtesy, I'm advising you that your Speedy Delete and my Hangon were deleted from List of Libyan children in HIV trial in Libya. Simesa 23:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. A very new user, Theriac, has interpreted the connection of the Ceramics-stub to Ceramics (art) in a very literal way, and is gleefully removing it from all articles relating to factory-produced ceramics, on the basis apparently that ceramics of artistic merit cannot be produced in factories (up to and including Chelsea and Sevres...). Before going any further with it I wanted to check with you what your intention was when you proposed the original stub - I presume, from the articles on which you have placed it, that it was wider than that, and was intended to refer to a broader range of china, but I'd be very interested to know which articles it was meant to cover? Thanks, HeartofaDog 02:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't like to be pedantic, but Dublin isn't in Scotland... [2] It is in Ireland. Tyrenius 08:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Easily done! You might want to check out the cats again, as I reverted to the original ones. Tyrenius 09:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
The holidays took a bigger toll on me than I expected. I will be editing next week again. Right now I am staying low. I logged in to check for message, like yours. :-) I should also let you know that I am writing history article for a new local magazine. This was part of my plan. So, I expect it will be published in Feb. or March. It's a new magazine, only 2 issues so far, and is free. In any case, the working title is High time before 1849. It's a collection of items I found interesting, but haven't had a format to write to. I just hope this magazine works out. -- meatclerk 05:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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Have you looked at List of fairy tales for French ones? Goldfritha 03:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I appreciate your concern about the number of stub categories in the Gyorgy Kepes article I created, but actually I wonder if removing the stubs is really necessary. After all, the fact that I included one or more of those stubs was what brought the article to your attention, right? -- surely it's helpful to acknowledge that articles fall into many categories, and that people do check the stub list for areas in which they have an interest, and to which they might be able to contribute. I realize that it might look a bit ridiculous to have a stub in five categories, but this is (I would argue) an implementation issue, rather than something that's semantically unacceptable. I don't mind, but I get a feeling that you may have a "firefighting" attitude here towards dealing with the overwhelming number of stubs that get created in your particular field, which I think is counterproductive in this case, and maybe even a questionable approach in general.
But I mean this in a friendly way! I hope you can see where I'm coming from, and I'm quite a new user so do let me know if there's a policy somewhere about this issue. So I can discuss it. Theoh 21:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
The redirect you created The Outlandish Knight that points to Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight is up for deletion because it is not understood how these are related (The Outlandish Knight appears to also be a 1999 book by Richard Adams). Would you please comment at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 January 23 how they are linked and expand Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight to include this link as well? Thanks! Cburnett 22:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Please try to remember to add these where applicable; for example this [3] was a very short stub but had plenty of references to his printmaking.
Since you seem to do most of the category work on art & printmaking, I'll ask if you know if there is a grand plan for printmaking categories? I find them pretty confusing at the moment. Some obvious parts of the scheme are missing - eg no German etchers category. As you no doubt know, dividing by technique is not really a good way to go, as very many printmaking artists use several (quite often in the same work). By nationality is slightly better (although it creates problems like Belgium), but personally I think the ideal would be to divide by period, and then by nationality. The periods would be:
- obviously a few people might have to go into two groups, but overall it would make much more sense.
It doesn't help that the EB 1911 uses what was even then the outdated (now definitely incorrect) " wood-engraving" for " woodcut" , and also often calls etchings engravings, just out of sheer carelessness I expect. Johnbod 00:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
ok, thanks. I'll refine the proposal & post it at the visual arts talk page & printmaking one. Johnbod 02:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger 23:22, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Can I ask that in future, when, or ideally before, you make any proposals on categories falling under the Visual arts project you advertise the proposal at the talk page there, and other relevant pages also? Really you should put it up for discussion there first. The stub-sorting project is hardly a place where you are going to get a wide or informed debate on the issues.
I must say I can't see the point of this category at all. Of course most articles on individual manuscripts are fairly short, and are likely to stay so for a very long time. Many important manuscripts are only of importance for a few illustrated pages - sometimes just one. The assertion in the debate (if it can be called that) that many of these have literary importance seems extremely dubious to me - the great majority of illuminated manuscripts contain standard religious texts (or sometimes standard secular ones), and most of the rest of the category seems to me to consist of Biblical texts or legal documents.
You obviously put a lot of time into stub-shuffling and marking, but I'm afraid I can't see the usefullness of much of it. At the moment the stub project seems to be in a little bubble of its own. Johnbod 20:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Art history is exactly right for the vast majority of illuminated manuscripts, and literature wrong, for the reasons I just explained - how many illuminated manuscripts have literary significance? I am minded to propose this category for deletion, unless you can come up with a useful justification for its existence. Johnbod 20:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Goldenrowlely, I just wanted to say that I think both articles are progressing well. Nice work! Thanx Theriac 12:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure the Aztec codices really count as illuminated manuscripts? -- Ptcamn 07:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello – Based on your significant contribution to one or more San Francisco Bay Area-related articles and/or stated interests on your homepage, I thought you might be interested in this project:
Peter G Werner 04:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it it is best to follow the practice of most articles (all except yours perhaps) in the category, & not use just the catalogue/shelf ref as the title of the article. Either the name of the Library or some descriptive phrase should also be included. Also in some, you don't actually say which Library they are in. Cheers Johnbod 15:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Just to notify that I have responded to your comment [5]. :-) — Insta ntnood 11:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed you've done a lot of work on mythology. Would you please read [6] and tell me what you think? Thanks -- Ephilei 01:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
In The Lighthouse in Economics you had added Category:Lighthouses. This seemed to be an error. I removed the category. Jerry 16:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm a bit concerned about edits such as this. Architecture, as a fine art is distinct from construction. It is useful to maintain architecture tags on architecturally important articles for this reason - I'd have no problem with both tags being added, or even a {{ russia-arch-stub}} being created - but now those articles will have architecture lumped together with Arkansas cell phone mast IV and others..... Would you mind restoring the tags or doing something that satisfies these concerns? Many thanks. -- Mcginnly | Natter 12:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
(unindent) Thanks for putting the arch-stub on Gavi Gangadhareshwara Temple. We are doing a series of articles on Indian architecture and want to avoid POV wars. Sincerely, Mattisse 23:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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Dear Goldenrowley, Thanks for the criminology-stub comments. I think the parent category should stay as it is, criminology is definitely fit to an umbrella term for many categories, still, it's better to seperate forensic science and medicine from the criminology category. Of course, criminology stub could be used as a secondary stub for those articles, including articles deals with forensic psychiatry and psychology, even criminal law, though criminology often acknowledges the descipline is the non-legal aspects of crime. Still, there are many divisions of arts and science criminology tag perfectly fits into, like victimology, correctional administration, police science, penology, law enforcement, criminological psychology, research on crime etc. Thanks for the supporting views.-- Cyril Thomas 02:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, do you think that spectrum analysis, as a physical concept, is part of the Electromagnetic spectrum or Optical spectrum? If so, why? tpikonen 22:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tpikonen. I do not profess to be a physicist but This was the physicist type study of matter before they could weigh atoms. I think it falls within the categories of both. I Looked at your page of interests and I think it is something like the scattering theory where material can be studied by its waves. Look at the title of Dr Alter's paper "the properties of the combustion of metals" and his conclusion "study of gases of stars, that would be a study of electromagnetic spectrum, no? It would emit a prism of colors so it is in the optical spectrum but the larger field of waves are electromagnetic. I understand electromagnetics are energy waves and to the human eye some
are colors and some are outside our vision. Goldenrowley 01:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Notes to myself for later:
I'm not entirely sure if it should be singular or plural. Typically the convention is to do singular wherever possible, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals). The french article (which I linked in, you might want to check it out if you speak french... there's quite a bit of info, but none of it is sourced) also has a singular title. Calliopejen1 02:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
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Great work on Witte Wieven! I have been working on the articles Norns and Dísir and I had no idea of how closely related the Dutch and the Scandinavian beliefs were (although, I should have anticipated it, both being Germanic).-- Berig 15:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I saw in retrospect that you have done some work on Light elves and Álfar, which I had redirected. I hope you don't mind my making them into redirects. Álfar is simply the Old Norse word for elves so it is already covered more fully in the Norse mythology section of Elf, and "light elves" only appear in Snorri Sturluson's work so there is virtually nothing to expand with unless there is some treatment of it in the fantasy genre. Best,-- Berig 21:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Goldenrowley, I see that you continue your good and interesting work on Continental Germanic myths :). I only thought that you might be interested in the Haddingjar who have been connected with the Alcis (gods).-- Berig 09:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for classifying the article and for correcting some of the typos and the other improvements. I've spotted a couple more typos myself. Apart form correcting those, do you have any suggestions on what to do to boost the article up another grade. Regards -- Peter cohen 11:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
You recently created a new cleanup category and added several articles to it. Unfortunately, this new category seems to be redundant with an existing one (Mathematics instead of Math) that already contains many more articles. Could you instead replace the {{ expert-subject|Math}} tags you added with {{ expert-subject|Mathematics}} so as to merge the contents? Then we can delete the new category or redirect it to the old one. JCarlos 20:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look at those articles I mentioned. I appreciate it. Also, I like your "info box" idea. You'll need to work out the delicate matter of an "official" scholarly definition of "myth", since there seems to be little consensus among scholars on this point. However, I think this info box is exactly the sort of thing we need to help (partially) quell religion-vs-mythology arguments.
By the way, might you be able to get your hands on a book called Sacred Narrative by Alan Dundes? It contains a number of articles that discuss the issue of defining myth. (For instance, see an article called "The Forms of Folklore" by William Bascom.) I remember seeing the book before, but I don't own currently own it, and it isn't available at my local library. If you find it, it might help you with the info box. -- Phatius McBluff 06:31, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Never mind. I was able to find the key quotation from Bascom's article online ( here): "tales believed as true, usually sacred, set in the distant past or other worlds or parts of the world, and with extra-human, inhuman, or heroic characters". As far as I know, this is the "official" folklorists' definition of "myth". This definition may be slightly too restrictive for our purposes. I suggest defining myth simply as "traditional story" in the info box, citing Princeton's Wordnet entry for "myth" ( here), and then mentioning (perhaps in parentheses) Bascom's more restrictive "official" definition. -- Phatius McBluff 06:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's what I came up with for the slogan (I also posted it on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mythology):
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This article discusses or mentions mythology. In popular usage, the words "myth" and "mythology" often mean "falsehood" or "fantasy". However, here the word "myth" will be used in its broadest scholarly sense, to mean "traditional story" (— OED, Princeton Wordnet). (More restrictive scholarly definitions of "myth", if relevant, will be discussed within the body of the article.) By applying the term "mythology" to the sacred stories of _______, this article is not labeling these stories as false. |
That last, perhaps too obviously disclaimer-ish sentence could be removed from the version of the info box that's being put on articles that don't discuss "living" religions; it could be added to the info boxes for articles that discuss "living" religions. For instance, the box for the Mythology article would look like this:
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This article discusses or mentions mythology. In popular usage, the words "myth" and "mythology" often mean "falsehood" or "fantasy". However, here the word "myth" will be used in its broadest scholarly sense, to mean "traditional story" (— OED, Princeton Wordnet). (More restrictive scholarly definitions of "myth", if relevant, will be discussed within the body of the article.) |
Meanwhile, the box for the Christian mythology article would look like this:
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This article discusses or mentions mythology. In popular usage, the words "myth" and "mythology" often mean "falsehood" or "fantasy". However, here the word "myth" will be used in its broadest scholarly sense, to mean "traditional story" (— OED, Princeton Wordnet). (More restrictive scholarly definitions of "myth", if relevant, will be discussed within the body of the article.) By applying the term "mythology" to the sacred stories of Christianity, this article is not labeling these stories as false. |
I think we should add a little logo picture -- maybe a dragon or something? -- Phatius McBluff 21:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Corrected a little problem:
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This article discusses or mentions mythology. In popular usage, the words "myth" and "mythology" often mean "falsehood". However, unless otherwise noted, this article uses the word "myth" in its broadest scholarly sense, to mean "traditional story", whether true or false (— OED, Princeton Wordnet). (More restrictive scholarly definitions of "myth", if relevant, will be discussed within the body of the article.) |
Reworded this way, I don't think the box needs that last disclaimer about "not labeling these stories as false". -- Phatius McBluff 21:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know about the discussion! I'm sorry I haven't been present on WP lately so soon after I started with the myth project. -- Ephilei 00:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I added some citations for the "opposition to calling religious stories myths" section, which definitely needed citations. I also restructured the article a bit and added some more info. It was a moderately large-scale edit, so I thought you'd want to know. (Also, I added some facts explaining exactly why so many religious practitioners object to the term "myth". You might be interested, considering your "info box" project.) -- Phatius McBluff 06:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
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I admire your work on articles dealing with mythology; you've shown a true devotion to the subject. I'm also impressed by your creative efforts to resolve the "religion vs mythology" dispute. Keep up the good work! -- Phatius McBluff 06:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC) |
Aw shucks. The feelings are entirely mutual... its good to have such hard working people on board! Goldenrowley 15:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
how are things going? I've been busy. If you recall, I've been unable to update Ohlone because of work and the book-selling business. Anyhow, two new books came into my collection via channels. I think you might want to borrow them. Here are the ISBNs: ISBN 0-8070-8529-4 ISBN 0-385-42253-9
meatclerk 06:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I've posted some concerns about the Islamic mythology article on the Mythology Wikiproject's discussion page. I think that you in particular should see them. -- Phatius McBluff 23:24, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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I thought you might be especially interested in light of the discussion about the Child Ballads and Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight currently going on.
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Hey! How's it going? Book sales are leveling off, and I'm getting back to the Wiki. This week I plan to finalize my History of the Name of Redwood City. After that, I'm back to working on Ohlone stuff.
I'm writing to say hi and to let you know I have a personal copy of Names for Plants and Animals Among California and other Western North American Tribes by Clinton Merriam. You are free to borrow it, if you need to, or would like to. I'm cleaning up my collection this week (before the weekend when I have to go back to work.)
I'm not sure where to start. Any suggestion? I'm thinking ohlone salt or one of the villages?
06:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the congratulations, Goldenrowley. I'm slowly working through the comments by the GA reviewer for further improvement and am also working through a book with coverage of the fragments of the Sophocles play and its background. My hope is to move the article from one of the nineteen best mythology articles to one of the eight best by the end of the year. In other words, get it to A-class.
Did you actually re-assess the article? In that case I would be interested in any ideas for what it lacks that is needed for A. If you haven't reassessed it, then I'll just wait until I've finished my current work and put it up for reassessment at that point. I'm assuming that I should satisfy you on its being an A before going for external peer review and FA.
Thanks, again. -- Peter cohen 08:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
About the window...
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Hey, just finishing vacation. Have some new stuff ready.
The text of this poem on Wikisource has been flagged as a potential copyright violation. [8] It looks like you were the user who contributed it. If you know more about the publication history of this poem, that might help. John Vandenberg 01:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
To answer your question: you're right, there should be more references. The problem is that there are very little references, as very little is known about the Morini. The article is a collection of bits and pieces I found in various articles which often are about different but probably related subjects. E.g. the fact that the Morini, like the Bataves build small hills to live upon. Those 'hills' (2 meter) are still found in the region and are the origin of the word 'polder'. But, the information about 'polder' is in my Dutch Etymology Dictionary and I saw those hills on a local television program. The Germanic character of the tribe is solely derived from this one little word in Zosimus's text, and Medieval maps. It's known that after the Roman Empire the region was known as to be Frankish (again: Germanic), but also that this region did not contribute in conquering Gaul under Clovis. In fact, Clovis annexed the region at the end of his life, long after the conquest of Gaul. The tribal region itself is derived from the presence of the specific West-Flemish dialect. I could not find a complete text about the Morini and moreover, there is a lot of confusion about nearly all the Belgian tribes, their location and their language. The reason is politics. French historians will claim a 'Gaulish' character of the region (like they do for most of Belgium). As the Morini are not a 'hot' subject, I added this coloured map where I situated not only the Morini, but also other Belgian tribes. French maps will give you a completely different view. So, it's very difficult to give good references. My website is: proto-english where I again break all the rules. There, I do have the same problem: how to give references when I state something completely opposite to what is widely accepted? I hope that someone will add references, one never know. -- Michael042 ( talk) 11:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for your edits to Tammukan, California, wow how my stub has grown! W-i-k-i-l-o-v-e-r-1-7 ( talk) 07:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hey Goldenrowley, if you need some help on fixing this, please message me.
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Sorry to drag you into another one of these endless quarrels on the Christian mythology talk page. But I'd like your 2 cents on an issue that I've raised regarding one contributor's recent edits. You seem to be one of the most dedicated contributors to that particular article.
By the way, while I'm here, I should mention that I think Comparative mythology could benefit from a new quality-scale review. (I'm going to leave a message to that effect on the Wikiproject Mythology talk page.) I seem to remember you giving quality ratings to a number of articles. -- Phatius McBluff ( talk) 03:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your great edit on
Beatrice; the second or third glance convinced me that my focus on distinguishing Dante's two of them had got me "all tangled in my underwear" (as my love likes to put it -- well, never mind that), and you cut what had seemed to me a Gordian knot. I'd also argued myself into treating the Princesses and Stains [heh!] as marginalia adequately dealt with by lks to the respective Dabs, but your expansion of those was something i'd have felt was worthwhile if i hadn't been so thoroly Beatriced up to here.
I usually make a point of reasserting that "People" means the same as "Historical persons", but many flowers blooming actually facilitates
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You might be interested if you take a peek at what i'm gonna do with sorting the people, and i'm sure la comtessa di Dia's final state was something you didn't intend, and talk to me if you like about my "tersifying" entries and removing 2nd blue lks, but it's certainly been a pleasure working with you!
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Hello Goldenrowley
My name is Brandon I'm a Senior in Illustration at Massachusetts College of Art in Boston, MA , working on my senior thesis degree project. My topic is the Krampus monster, a pagan figure in folklore/ Alpine tradition.I noticed you contributed a large amount of information to the Krampus main page and others, I was wondering if it was possible to interview/ask you some questions about the Krampus, it would help out my project a great deal. feel free to email me back or respond through this thread, thank you for your time.
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Hello Goldenrowley
My name is Brandon I'm a Senior in Illustration at Massachusetts College of Art in Boston, MA , working on my senior thesis degree project. My topic is the Krampus monster, a pagan figure in folklore/ Alpine tradition.I noticed you contributed a large amount of information to the Krampus main page and others, I was wondering if it was possible to interview/ask you some questions about the Krampus, it would help out my project a great deal. feel free to email me back or respond through this thread, thank you for your time.
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Hi...thanks for transwiki'ing this article. I'm unfamiliar with the process, however I see that you added a {{prod}} template to it. Can we instead add a {{wi}} template and leave it at that? That way it can be categorized and linked. Thanks again. Wizard191 ( talk) 13:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
That would be fine with me, doing it now. Goldenrowley ( talk) 04:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
When you get a chance, your comments on some recent edits I made to Mythology would be appreciated. See the talk page. Thanks! -- Phatius McBluff ( talk) 04:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC) I am sorry having a hard semester at school and not able to read it yet. Goldenrowley ( talk) 07:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Wiktionary would be good... -- Bubblecuffer ( talk) 23:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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That should be possible; I'll add it to the list of future updates. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 05:24, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
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If I remember correctly it is a French fairy tale of some literary significance, shouldn't have been deleted for the reasons given (it is not a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.). Yes if restored I can add notability (if its not already there). Should I get an admin to help me? Goldenrowley ( talk) 00:11, 29 March 2009 (UTC) .... I've just gone to the person who deleted it and asked him or her to restore it. I've also begun to discuss its notability on its still existent talk page. Goldenrowley ( talk) 00:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
The {{ ManualTranswiki}} template provides the instructions, but I can make that clearer. The list of terms for gay unfortunately needs to be taken care of with a manual copy/paste, though - it's too big and has too many revisions for the bot to handle with import. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 04:21, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Couldn't sleep so fixed some wikipages. On Ohlone, user 206.110.235.13 on 26 February 2009 vandalized in two places, now fixed. BTW, ohlone were in Marin County, but we have no direct references. Also removed a book added to "further reading" as we have it listed in "references".
That said, when the first missionary settlers first settled they fired the customary cannon salute -- scaring all the natives in the area across the bay (east and north). Many other reports of native coming and going to north and east bay, but as I said, there is **NO** historian note, book or direct reference. So again, in the first section "CULTURE", we cannot say for sure that they "lived" there, they may have visited relative, or in-laws (so to speak), but not "lived". Your removal of said added note has my support. Cheers. meatclerk ( talk) 10:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Dear Goldenrowley:
I am a new contributor, only a few days old. I see that you have been working to improve the "Ohlone" article since September of 2006. Central California Indian ethnography is one of my few fields of expertice. You will notice a bunch of edits and references I just contributed to the "Ohlone" article. I apologize for not doing summary statements for most of my edits. When I started, I did not know I was supposed to do that. Then, even after I learned that I should, and made some summary comments, I continued to forget just now. I will get better.
I hope you agree that I sharpened up the "Language" section. If I goofed up, I know what to expect.
Regards, and thanks for all your work, Middle Fork ( talk) 23:40, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley! You are one of the Wikipedia shamans to me. Sorry I squashed some stuff that should have stayed in. I just read Andrew Lih's book "Wikipedia Revolution" and learned that one of the major rules is "be bold". Howeve, that may not be fair to workers in the trenches this many years down the road. So I am quite ready to be beaten into place. BTW, I really like your Ohlone stuff. But I thought that the Bay Miwok stuff felt like an afterthought.
Did I remove any Kroeber or Levy? I thought I removed George Emmanuel and Charles Bohakel. I have known their works since the 1980s. They are not at all scholarly. Its like they took Kroeber 1925 and ran with it, dumping in their own ideas. It frightens me that school kids and teacher would be handed off to their work. I did not think that was what Jimmy Whales had in mind for Wikipedia at the start. I hope you go read their work, and reconsider, if you did put them back in. The classic works on Bay Miwok are Beeler, Bennyhoff, and Callaghan, with stuff about individual local tribes (not villages) from Milliken.
Anyway, I will be hanging around, doing some pruning. In the end, I think you will be gland. Middle Fork ( talk) 02:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley.
I want to revisit the Bohakel and Emmanuel references in the Bay Miwok article with you. I just read the "Wikipedia:Reliable Sources" and I quote: "This page in a nutshell: Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Both Bohakel and Emmanuel were self-published. Both men were eager well-intentioned amateurs who did not live in an intellectual world of peers. Neither had even heard of Madison Beeler, discoverer of Saclan as a Miwok language, or James A Bennyhoff, the dean of published Bay Miwok ethnogeography, when they wrote (or of the Bay Miwok language for that matter, as they thought Saclan was a Costanoan language, per Kroeber 1926). Neither reference supports any point made in the article, as far as I can see; I think they are "legacy" citations from some article writer that preceded you. I hope that you will remove the two references. Middle Fork ( talk) 19:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley. I struck Bohakel and Emmanuel, per your agreement. Now I have a question. As I cruise around in various articles, I see that many Notes will have an "a,b,...n" after a given note number (for instance, in notes in the Mount Diablo article). Yet I see no indication of a series of subnotes, either in the note or in the reference point in the body of the article. Can you point me to a Wiki Help page that will explain the "a,b,...n" to me? Middle Fork ( talk) 15:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Goldenrowley. I just made some structural changes and important etymological explanation changes in your introduction to Ohlone article. I defend the changes over at the Ohlone discussion page. Middle Fork ( talk) 16:30, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley. I note that you removed the Goerke reference that I added to the Chief Marin blurb. I also note that you retained the far less scholarly "Teather" citations. The Goerke book is very important, and should be seen by people who may not choose to click over to a separate Chief Marin Wikipedia article. Please return the Goerke reference to the page. Middle Fork ( talk) 18:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Goldenrowley. You will see that I changed Marin to something different than either of the last two. I'm fine if you rechange it, I only care that the Goerke signpost remains. Speaking of change, I note that a GAR reviewer really likes the way you put citations at the end of paragraphs in the Ohlone article. I know I put them immediately after the sentence in question, and did not change mine after you told me your rule. I actually prefer a third system, due to familiarity. Its the anthropological literature tradition, where the text citations are like (Bennyhoff 1977:44), with no need to click to a note to get a sense of the source. In that tradition we reserve notes for some discussion point that might be pretty esoteric. Would you like me to go back systematically through my Ohlone, Bay Miwok, and Coast Miwok additions and move my embedded notes markers to the ends of paragraphs? Middle Fork ( talk) 02:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Reply to: Transwiki's new import bot hasn't been importing anything since April. Is it ok? hopefully so. I just finished 2005 and had to tell someone... :-) Goldenrowley ( talk) 01:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley. I read Cirt's criticism of the "Notable Ohlone's" list and I agree with you that there is no reason to move it onto its own page, when it is a logical subsection of the Ohlone article. However, I want to change its membership, and explain why first. I feel it was built by someone, you perhaps, who had just read Alan Brown's 1973 La Peninsula article; this makes it too heavily loaded with Mission Dolores people, when in fact there were "first converts" and relatively famous people in every mission group. I think we should keep the "Ohlone Notables" list to no more that 12, and make them the 12 most interesting people for illustrating large themes, firsts, lasts, and ethnographic consultants. I am going to move Chamis, Mossues, and Andres Osorio to a Notable Ramaytush page (and repeat others as pertinent). Then I am going to add Lorenzo Asisara of Santa Cruz and Baltazar of Carmel to the main page. I strongly believe Pomponio, a known Coast Miwok, does not belong on this list, but I know he is dear to your heart, so I will not touch it. I petition you to remove him yourself. PS. I peaking behind the "green curtain" of Wikipedia mysticism and found that you are a top editor, number 1,441 on the list (over 19,000 edits). Wow! Congratulations and thanks for your dedication. Middle Fork ( talk) 15:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Regarding Pomponio. He was Mission San Francisco Baptism 2546 (January 2, 1803), at age 5. His father was a Huimen Coast Miwok (Richardson Bay) and his mother was a Guaulen Coast Miwok (Bolinas Bay). Alan K. Brown, a great man and scholar, first found these entries and published a great accurate story about Pomponio in a obscure magazine called The Argonaut which I put in the Wikipedia citations someplace. Brown combines accuracy with beautiful writing, so I hope you can find that article. Later, I independently reached the same conclusion about Pomponio's identity. Finally, Betty Goerke has the same identity, and a few more pages about Pomponio, in her new Chief Marin book (encourage your local library to purchase that book). Middle Fork ( talk) 22:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
At Your Service, Goldenrowley! I added and tinkered with Chief Marin. Now you can tidy it up. By the way, you write: "Of course I know you are busy with much larger issues." That's what I think when I see you working on the local Indian stuff, that a man with 19,000 edits is probably also keeping the "Iliad" page clean and fighting vandals off of the "Obama" page :-). Sadly, its too bad few people care if we get any of this stuff right. Middle Fork ( talk) 21:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry I offered up that "space ships" line. Everyone in this Wikipedia world has their favorite topics and their own ideas about what is "obvious" and we seem to have touched a sensitive place about 'written language" in Geometryguy. By the way, the 1996 Handbook of the Indians of North America volume on Language (1986) does have quite a section on a number of special alphabets that various groups have developed (not just Cherokee) since European contact, usually having to do with translating the Bible. Middle Fork ( talk) 21:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
HaHaHaHa. You are correct, sir. Middle Fork ( talk) 23:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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Welcome to Wiki and hope to see amny more artcles from you.Congratulations on your article about David Alter.Actually I had created the stub and it is rewarding to note that someone has expanded it so soon.I have suggested that this artcle be listed on the main page to highlight this very great scientist who is not that well known.Congratulations once again( Vr 05:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC))
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I was wondering where I'd find the patience to look at the rest of the pages there again.... -- Alvestrand 15:52, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, I saw your reference to population for Ohlone. Those numbers are not supportable. I have moved your entry to the comment section, and bookmarked my own notes. Could we discuss them there? meatclerk 07:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC) Done, probably in greater detail since I have a source at hand. Goldenrowley 07:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
There are two criteria a project has to meet to be listed as active and/or remain ineligible for deletion or movement. They are to have activity on the page in the past 3 months and to have at least one listed member. Right now this project has no members. It looks like it has a wealth of useful data and I would welcome seeing it remaining where it is. Badbilltucker 16:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: I added myself immediately upon hearing it was in danger with no members. It is a good project with a great templates, calling others to join me. Goldenrowley 20:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm assuming you mean StubSense. A link in the "header" of WP:WSS/P sounds like a good idea, certainly. Alai 17:47, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
-->to be done asap Goldenrowley 19:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
I do hope your browser hasn't contracted whatever's ailing Grutness's. [1] Alai 07:37, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
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Goldenrowley, just to let you know on my notes - I just completed the software that takes my notes, written in wikipedia style (I call wikitype) and they spit out HTML. The purpose is to take the dozen or so page of notes and make the publicly avialable. I still need to write a master (or index) page creator, but I see that as easy - as soon as I get a bit of sleep. BTW, could you use Milliken? or another source? -- meatclerk 09:40, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
My original notes on population are cleaned up. You can see them here -> The Population of the California Indians, 1769-1970. Sorry I don't have any numbers south of Santa Clara County, but I think I can handle that and give you totals next week. -- meatclerk 08:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! The archived discussions can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive, summarized in sections and linked to the archive itself. I only discovered the archives a while back by seeing the "A" next to "Proposals" in the small blue WikiProject Stub Sorting menu on the right. Let me know if you can't find something. Cheers, Her Pegship 20:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a little confused about this one. You listed it on speedy deletion as a "very short article with no context" and the edit summary said all links had been moved (it's still used in a couple of articles though), so I turned it back into a redirect instead. I also see you listed it in the "to be deleted" section on stub types for deletion. However I can't seem to find a record of any debate to delete or rename it logged anywhere. All I find is the sucessfull proposal to create it. Mind cluing me in on where the consensus to delete this was reached? -- Sherool (talk) 07:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: I took care to investigate of course and do it right from now on, of course. Goldenrowley 20:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem, I just got a little confused when it was listed under stub deletions with no actual deletion debate in sight. For future refence when merging stuff just redirect the old title to the new one like you originaly did. The exception is categories, redirecting them doesn't quite work as expected so we delete those. It helps to use a more spesific deletion template though, either {{ db-catempty}}, or something like {{ db|Category merged with <some other category>, no longer used please delete}} or whatever to make it more clear why it should be deleted. Tagging it with a template that says it's an article with little context is just plain confusing ;) -- Sherool (talk) 18:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, we step on each other's work. If you can, please use {{inuse-section}}. I've already almost wiped out your edits. Would hate to loss good work. -- meatclerk 07:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, don't worry too much over the syncing. Use the tag when you can please. Also, not too many appoligize either. My work in a grocery store gets me many appologize for things people never should appoloigize for; sometime it irriates me.
On Ishi, we should just forget about that until I have time for the bio on Kroeber and Merriam, sometime next year. BTW, Milliken does a brilliant job of avoiding many subjects, population, hunter-gather as examples. Nonetheless, still very good material, a cut above Margolin.
On other issues, I have had some sleep now, so I'm better. My typing might show it. Today, I need to finish some things before I get to the topic of hunter-gather. This includes two (2) flats on my bicycle. -- meatclerk 17:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
When something's been tagged for deletion via one of the "*FD processes", it'll be deleted (or otherwise) by someone working their way down the process page. If you remove the *FD tag, and replace it with a "speedy" tag, it gives the impression it's not been through the "process" at all, which will cause untold confusion when an admin dealing with "speedies" sees it, on the basis of that categorisation. At which don't they're either likely to conclude it's not speediable, i they don't look at the history, or wonder why someone is removing *FD tags, if they do. (And SFD is a relative "quiet backwater": if you did that at AFD, you'd be speedily lynched.) So in short, don't. Alai 16:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Note I encapsulated the above instructions, in newbie language, and proposed it on the Stub instruction page discussion page today. Goldenrowley 21:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
GR, I see you working at a fever pitch. Just a few notes. In the opening paragraph, "40 different tribal names" is difficult to support, especially when you are adding all the names. As you might have noted, I try to stay clear of such numbers. Hence, the reason I challenged Bruce on 1300 years. It may be true, but no one we know was around 1300 years ago. Anyhow, I should buy you a beer, or coffee, or fruit juice (in case you are Mormon), because you do such a nice job on my sloppy writing. -- meatclerk 05:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley.
I'm in the process of contributing sections on traditional narratives for all of the California groups. Initially I had thought of making them separate articles, but because I don't anticipate that they will contain extended discussions of the contents of the narratives (at least for now), their content seemed a little thin to stand alone. So I decided to go with sections in the general articles for the ethnic groups. Because I'm keying them through a template in the general "Traditional narratives (Native California)" article, it's probably desirable to be consistent, one way or the other. I'm open to discussion as to which way would be better, and I'm willing to change the ones I've already posted. Let me know what you think.
As to the title, I think "traditional narratives" is preferable to "mythology". Many of the narratives involved (for instance, many of the trickster stories) technically aren't myths; they're tales or legends, in the terminology of folklorists, anthropologists, and Wikipedia itself.... RhymeNotStutter 03:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, if you're going to continue burying these listing in one article after another, I guess I'll have to start moving all the discussions of traditional narratives out of the main tribal articles and into separate articles. I really don't think you understand the purpose of presenting these sources -- they're not citations for purposes of documentation or recommendations for further reading. I also think you may be missing the nonlinear character of an on-line encyclopedia -- users aren't necessarily expected to read an article from top to bottom, but they need to be offered a clear flow leading them on to related information. RhymeNotStutter 00:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I've put the traditional narratives material in separate articles now. I haven't deleted redundant material or put in "See also" references in the articles you're actively editing (Bay Miwok, Coast Miwok, Lake Miwok, Valley and Sierra Miwok, Miwok Mythology, Ohlone, and Pomo). Feel free to do so, or let me know if you want me to do it. RhymeNotStutter 16:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey what's up. Just teasing you. Are you done, for now with Oholone? If so, that's okay. Just checking. You see: I add, you edit. :-), but if you are on to other things, that is fine too. -- meatclerk 06:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Since, I did not hear from you, I assume you went to bed. On the intro, I started over. Here is the general outline.
Encyclopedic forms start with a condensed paragraph, not always, but mostly. Please look into this.
Done:
Off Thursday, first task: get CHSQ article on A.S. Taylor, and write wikiarticle. That's it. -- meatclerk 08:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I've fixed a variety of things you've somehow "rubbed out" or distorted (by accident). For instance, Ohlone in the current introduction is distorted; three or four times when you've moved things around the footnotes break and you've distorted titles of books and article by reducing the original. Anyway, I fixed some. -- meatclerk 06:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I also note your are not wholey familiar with HTML and floating dialogs. So, may I suggest that you not make any fancy layouts on the page. You may note, mind are simple. Intentionally so; for instance Native words lines up nicely if the browser is at full screen, but if the browser window gets reduced in size, then the Legend disappears below the text. One solution is to create an invisible outer box, the top holds the visible table and the bottom holds the legend; which now never floats away under some text.
In closing, I don't want to discourage what you are doing, but for try not to get too fancy. :-) -- meatclerk 07:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
As you can tell, I can't sleep (two nights in a row). BTW, here are my notes on salmon myths, so far.
-- meatclerk 08:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Goldenrowley, as you know I make notes in the library and if I find anything interesting you are welcome to it. My notes on this article are for my use, but I did note that the traveler did take accounts of religion, traditions and myths. My notes may be of no use to you, but you might take note of the volume and title. Here it is. -- meatclerk 22:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
On Theodora Kroeber, I only have Ishi and it has no index, or TOC.
On Cook, I believe that his quote noting "white men" as the culprits was important. Your right; as soon as a California Indians article is written I will move it over. Till then it needs a home, perhaps a shallow home, but home none the less. But also on that, might recall one of my message about over trimming, or editing. On that, I see this as thrashing on an article that if far from complete. Bruces actions on this are about the same.
On Brown, I have removed the quotes (perhaps more than one) until the article settles. Currently, there is quite a bit of thrashing, especially the intro (perhaps my fault on that). But really I don't recall removing a quote, if I did. In any case, if I see something majorly wrong I will speak up.
More on overediting. I'm currently cleaning up my database and book collection. I have perhaps 50 books that need entry so I can track them. I have perhaps just as many notes in electronic format. So, on one of the last editing points, where you added my reference(La Penninsula), but I did not have my notes in order, I needed to spend 2 hours to fix my notes for online viewing. Note: I am not complaining or critizing your actions, it's just that I need to put my notes in order - Which is what I am doing tonight. -- meatclerk 06:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for proof reading A.S. Alexander. I will always appreciate it, as writing is not my strong point. I was always better at reading and math, but writing was a chore - perhaps because of my MSG intolerance. Anyway thanks. meatclerk 07:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Excellent work. Feel free to move the quote over. If you don't have time, I will get to it in a few days. Thanks to both of you. -- meatclerk 07:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm cleaning up my notes and I see more notes on myths. The Notes are here. Take note of 4. Myths and Legends, pg. 297¥. The scanned page is linked. Once you see what you want go back to the main page and on the top half you'll see Literature cited. From there the links (or scanned pages) are the Bibliography for the book. Lastly, I need to add the minerals for Ohlone to the list. Right now it is just San Mateo County. -- meatclerk 11:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi thnak you for the new myth notes, is super organized of you. On giving a full citations on the Ohlone page starting with Cook: are you taking the initiative on that one, or should I? Goldenrowley 21:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I going to revert the article (Ohlone) again. But before I do, I thought it would be useful to write why I am doing so.
For this person I have left two (2) message (See User_talk:Aleventh) Both message acknowledge the good work and accuracy of the citations. However, if you look at the contributions, you will note, as I have, this person has only added to this article. Likely, this person is closely related to the Ohlone. How so, I am not sure. Even so, additions show more recognition of the subject than we do. However, this person's knowledge of wikipedia is poor - as shown by the edits.
It behooves us to teach this person how to make proper edits, else we will be making corrections - without communications, and possibly errors in our corrections. If you have a counter-point, I will reduce my position to reflect any possible alternatives. -- meatclerk 03:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I found some of the additions trying to help us fill in on our requested citations. I was going to let the new persons today's edits in, and only delete those truly uncited and detrimental. Since I've already put an hour into it I'd suggest you just seehow it looks a little later in the evenint (say around 9 pm?) Goldenrowley 04:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hey, thanks for the Barnstar for Mythology! I haven't been working on it much lately (end of semester craziness) but hope to get back to it soon. It's a long-standing interest of mine and I've learned SO MUCH from working on the hotlist topics. -- Bookgrrl 17:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
What was it that you wanted sourced? The article is really just a pointer to articles on more specific topics that (I hope) source their details. I don't think the article is providing any "facts" that need to be sourced (I guess it could source that triple deities even exist in myth at all, but that seems kind of pointless given that each of the articles it refers to will/should already provide such sourcing. It's just a list, really. Maybe it should even be renamed to List of triple deities]]. Maybe you can tell me what you're after, and I'll see what I can dig up. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ contrib ツ 13:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you removed the merge tags on Michabo and Algonquin mythology. These articles are part of a larger discussion we're having at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America/Anishinaabe. I'm of an opinion that the word Algonquian is really only useful in linguistics, but it is often confused with Algonquin, which is a specific tribe that lives in Quebec and is part of the larger group of Anishinaabe peoples along with the Ojibwe(Chippewa). I wouldn't support an article on Algonquian mythology as the differences between Cree and Powhatan, Blackfoot and Abenaki are too vast. However, Chippewa mythology and Algonquin mythology could conceivably come under the umbrella of Anishinaabe mythology. I invite you to comment at this talk page. Leo1410 04:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Don't know how/why I didn't get my name onto Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mythology when you invited me on my talk page a few months back, but now I'm there. Belated thanks, and looking forward to continuing to spread mythinformation ;) -- Bookgrrl 00:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Dear Goldenrowley, I disagree with you labelling Beowulf mythological. The other characters surrounding him are held to be semi-legendary or semi-historical. If you call him "legendary" I would not oppose it.-- Berig 09:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Looks like you've become popular enough to have your user page vandalized... I reverted it for you. WHeimbigner 21:33, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Out of courtesy, I'm advising you that your Speedy Delete and my Hangon were deleted from List of Libyan children in HIV trial in Libya. Simesa 23:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. A very new user, Theriac, has interpreted the connection of the Ceramics-stub to Ceramics (art) in a very literal way, and is gleefully removing it from all articles relating to factory-produced ceramics, on the basis apparently that ceramics of artistic merit cannot be produced in factories (up to and including Chelsea and Sevres...). Before going any further with it I wanted to check with you what your intention was when you proposed the original stub - I presume, from the articles on which you have placed it, that it was wider than that, and was intended to refer to a broader range of china, but I'd be very interested to know which articles it was meant to cover? Thanks, HeartofaDog 02:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't like to be pedantic, but Dublin isn't in Scotland... [2] It is in Ireland. Tyrenius 08:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Easily done! You might want to check out the cats again, as I reverted to the original ones. Tyrenius 09:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
The holidays took a bigger toll on me than I expected. I will be editing next week again. Right now I am staying low. I logged in to check for message, like yours. :-) I should also let you know that I am writing history article for a new local magazine. This was part of my plan. So, I expect it will be published in Feb. or March. It's a new magazine, only 2 issues so far, and is free. In any case, the working title is High time before 1849. It's a collection of items I found interesting, but haven't had a format to write to. I just hope this magazine works out. -- meatclerk 05:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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Have you looked at List of fairy tales for French ones? Goldfritha 03:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I appreciate your concern about the number of stub categories in the Gyorgy Kepes article I created, but actually I wonder if removing the stubs is really necessary. After all, the fact that I included one or more of those stubs was what brought the article to your attention, right? -- surely it's helpful to acknowledge that articles fall into many categories, and that people do check the stub list for areas in which they have an interest, and to which they might be able to contribute. I realize that it might look a bit ridiculous to have a stub in five categories, but this is (I would argue) an implementation issue, rather than something that's semantically unacceptable. I don't mind, but I get a feeling that you may have a "firefighting" attitude here towards dealing with the overwhelming number of stubs that get created in your particular field, which I think is counterproductive in this case, and maybe even a questionable approach in general.
But I mean this in a friendly way! I hope you can see where I'm coming from, and I'm quite a new user so do let me know if there's a policy somewhere about this issue. So I can discuss it. Theoh 21:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
The redirect you created The Outlandish Knight that points to Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight is up for deletion because it is not understood how these are related (The Outlandish Knight appears to also be a 1999 book by Richard Adams). Would you please comment at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 January 23 how they are linked and expand Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight to include this link as well? Thanks! Cburnett 22:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Please try to remember to add these where applicable; for example this [3] was a very short stub but had plenty of references to his printmaking.
Since you seem to do most of the category work on art & printmaking, I'll ask if you know if there is a grand plan for printmaking categories? I find them pretty confusing at the moment. Some obvious parts of the scheme are missing - eg no German etchers category. As you no doubt know, dividing by technique is not really a good way to go, as very many printmaking artists use several (quite often in the same work). By nationality is slightly better (although it creates problems like Belgium), but personally I think the ideal would be to divide by period, and then by nationality. The periods would be:
- obviously a few people might have to go into two groups, but overall it would make much more sense.
It doesn't help that the EB 1911 uses what was even then the outdated (now definitely incorrect) " wood-engraving" for " woodcut" , and also often calls etchings engravings, just out of sheer carelessness I expect. Johnbod 00:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
ok, thanks. I'll refine the proposal & post it at the visual arts talk page & printmaking one. Johnbod 02:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger 23:22, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Can I ask that in future, when, or ideally before, you make any proposals on categories falling under the Visual arts project you advertise the proposal at the talk page there, and other relevant pages also? Really you should put it up for discussion there first. The stub-sorting project is hardly a place where you are going to get a wide or informed debate on the issues.
I must say I can't see the point of this category at all. Of course most articles on individual manuscripts are fairly short, and are likely to stay so for a very long time. Many important manuscripts are only of importance for a few illustrated pages - sometimes just one. The assertion in the debate (if it can be called that) that many of these have literary importance seems extremely dubious to me - the great majority of illuminated manuscripts contain standard religious texts (or sometimes standard secular ones), and most of the rest of the category seems to me to consist of Biblical texts or legal documents.
You obviously put a lot of time into stub-shuffling and marking, but I'm afraid I can't see the usefullness of much of it. At the moment the stub project seems to be in a little bubble of its own. Johnbod 20:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Art history is exactly right for the vast majority of illuminated manuscripts, and literature wrong, for the reasons I just explained - how many illuminated manuscripts have literary significance? I am minded to propose this category for deletion, unless you can come up with a useful justification for its existence. Johnbod 20:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Goldenrowlely, I just wanted to say that I think both articles are progressing well. Nice work! Thanx Theriac 12:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure the Aztec codices really count as illuminated manuscripts? -- Ptcamn 07:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello – Based on your significant contribution to one or more San Francisco Bay Area-related articles and/or stated interests on your homepage, I thought you might be interested in this project:
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I think it it is best to follow the practice of most articles (all except yours perhaps) in the category, & not use just the catalogue/shelf ref as the title of the article. Either the name of the Library or some descriptive phrase should also be included. Also in some, you don't actually say which Library they are in. Cheers Johnbod 15:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Just to notify that I have responded to your comment [5]. :-) — Insta ntnood 11:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed you've done a lot of work on mythology. Would you please read [6] and tell me what you think? Thanks -- Ephilei 01:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
In The Lighthouse in Economics you had added Category:Lighthouses. This seemed to be an error. I removed the category. Jerry 16:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm a bit concerned about edits such as this. Architecture, as a fine art is distinct from construction. It is useful to maintain architecture tags on architecturally important articles for this reason - I'd have no problem with both tags being added, or even a {{ russia-arch-stub}} being created - but now those articles will have architecture lumped together with Arkansas cell phone mast IV and others..... Would you mind restoring the tags or doing something that satisfies these concerns? Many thanks. -- Mcginnly | Natter 12:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
(unindent) Thanks for putting the arch-stub on Gavi Gangadhareshwara Temple. We are doing a series of articles on Indian architecture and want to avoid POV wars. Sincerely, Mattisse 23:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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Dear Goldenrowley, Thanks for the criminology-stub comments. I think the parent category should stay as it is, criminology is definitely fit to an umbrella term for many categories, still, it's better to seperate forensic science and medicine from the criminology category. Of course, criminology stub could be used as a secondary stub for those articles, including articles deals with forensic psychiatry and psychology, even criminal law, though criminology often acknowledges the descipline is the non-legal aspects of crime. Still, there are many divisions of arts and science criminology tag perfectly fits into, like victimology, correctional administration, police science, penology, law enforcement, criminological psychology, research on crime etc. Thanks for the supporting views.-- Cyril Thomas 02:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, do you think that spectrum analysis, as a physical concept, is part of the Electromagnetic spectrum or Optical spectrum? If so, why? tpikonen 22:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tpikonen. I do not profess to be a physicist but This was the physicist type study of matter before they could weigh atoms. I think it falls within the categories of both. I Looked at your page of interests and I think it is something like the scattering theory where material can be studied by its waves. Look at the title of Dr Alter's paper "the properties of the combustion of metals" and his conclusion "study of gases of stars, that would be a study of electromagnetic spectrum, no? It would emit a prism of colors so it is in the optical spectrum but the larger field of waves are electromagnetic. I understand electromagnetics are energy waves and to the human eye some
are colors and some are outside our vision. Goldenrowley 01:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Notes to myself for later:
I'm not entirely sure if it should be singular or plural. Typically the convention is to do singular wherever possible, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals). The french article (which I linked in, you might want to check it out if you speak french... there's quite a bit of info, but none of it is sourced) also has a singular title. Calliopejen1 02:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
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Great work on Witte Wieven! I have been working on the articles Norns and Dísir and I had no idea of how closely related the Dutch and the Scandinavian beliefs were (although, I should have anticipated it, both being Germanic).-- Berig 15:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I saw in retrospect that you have done some work on Light elves and Álfar, which I had redirected. I hope you don't mind my making them into redirects. Álfar is simply the Old Norse word for elves so it is already covered more fully in the Norse mythology section of Elf, and "light elves" only appear in Snorri Sturluson's work so there is virtually nothing to expand with unless there is some treatment of it in the fantasy genre. Best,-- Berig 21:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Goldenrowley, I see that you continue your good and interesting work on Continental Germanic myths :). I only thought that you might be interested in the Haddingjar who have been connected with the Alcis (gods).-- Berig 09:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for classifying the article and for correcting some of the typos and the other improvements. I've spotted a couple more typos myself. Apart form correcting those, do you have any suggestions on what to do to boost the article up another grade. Regards -- Peter cohen 11:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
You recently created a new cleanup category and added several articles to it. Unfortunately, this new category seems to be redundant with an existing one (Mathematics instead of Math) that already contains many more articles. Could you instead replace the {{ expert-subject|Math}} tags you added with {{ expert-subject|Mathematics}} so as to merge the contents? Then we can delete the new category or redirect it to the old one. JCarlos 20:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look at those articles I mentioned. I appreciate it. Also, I like your "info box" idea. You'll need to work out the delicate matter of an "official" scholarly definition of "myth", since there seems to be little consensus among scholars on this point. However, I think this info box is exactly the sort of thing we need to help (partially) quell religion-vs-mythology arguments.
By the way, might you be able to get your hands on a book called Sacred Narrative by Alan Dundes? It contains a number of articles that discuss the issue of defining myth. (For instance, see an article called "The Forms of Folklore" by William Bascom.) I remember seeing the book before, but I don't own currently own it, and it isn't available at my local library. If you find it, it might help you with the info box. -- Phatius McBluff 06:31, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Never mind. I was able to find the key quotation from Bascom's article online ( here): "tales believed as true, usually sacred, set in the distant past or other worlds or parts of the world, and with extra-human, inhuman, or heroic characters". As far as I know, this is the "official" folklorists' definition of "myth". This definition may be slightly too restrictive for our purposes. I suggest defining myth simply as "traditional story" in the info box, citing Princeton's Wordnet entry for "myth" ( here), and then mentioning (perhaps in parentheses) Bascom's more restrictive "official" definition. -- Phatius McBluff 06:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's what I came up with for the slogan (I also posted it on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mythology):
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This article discusses or mentions mythology. In popular usage, the words "myth" and "mythology" often mean "falsehood" or "fantasy". However, here the word "myth" will be used in its broadest scholarly sense, to mean "traditional story" (— OED, Princeton Wordnet). (More restrictive scholarly definitions of "myth", if relevant, will be discussed within the body of the article.) By applying the term "mythology" to the sacred stories of _______, this article is not labeling these stories as false. |
That last, perhaps too obviously disclaimer-ish sentence could be removed from the version of the info box that's being put on articles that don't discuss "living" religions; it could be added to the info boxes for articles that discuss "living" religions. For instance, the box for the Mythology article would look like this:
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This article discusses or mentions mythology. In popular usage, the words "myth" and "mythology" often mean "falsehood" or "fantasy". However, here the word "myth" will be used in its broadest scholarly sense, to mean "traditional story" (— OED, Princeton Wordnet). (More restrictive scholarly definitions of "myth", if relevant, will be discussed within the body of the article.) |
Meanwhile, the box for the Christian mythology article would look like this:
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This article discusses or mentions mythology. In popular usage, the words "myth" and "mythology" often mean "falsehood" or "fantasy". However, here the word "myth" will be used in its broadest scholarly sense, to mean "traditional story" (— OED, Princeton Wordnet). (More restrictive scholarly definitions of "myth", if relevant, will be discussed within the body of the article.) By applying the term "mythology" to the sacred stories of Christianity, this article is not labeling these stories as false. |
I think we should add a little logo picture -- maybe a dragon or something? -- Phatius McBluff 21:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Corrected a little problem:
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This article discusses or mentions mythology. In popular usage, the words "myth" and "mythology" often mean "falsehood". However, unless otherwise noted, this article uses the word "myth" in its broadest scholarly sense, to mean "traditional story", whether true or false (— OED, Princeton Wordnet). (More restrictive scholarly definitions of "myth", if relevant, will be discussed within the body of the article.) |
Reworded this way, I don't think the box needs that last disclaimer about "not labeling these stories as false". -- Phatius McBluff 21:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know about the discussion! I'm sorry I haven't been present on WP lately so soon after I started with the myth project. -- Ephilei 00:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I added some citations for the "opposition to calling religious stories myths" section, which definitely needed citations. I also restructured the article a bit and added some more info. It was a moderately large-scale edit, so I thought you'd want to know. (Also, I added some facts explaining exactly why so many religious practitioners object to the term "myth". You might be interested, considering your "info box" project.) -- Phatius McBluff 06:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
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I admire your work on articles dealing with mythology; you've shown a true devotion to the subject. I'm also impressed by your creative efforts to resolve the "religion vs mythology" dispute. Keep up the good work! -- Phatius McBluff 06:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC) |
Aw shucks. The feelings are entirely mutual... its good to have such hard working people on board! Goldenrowley 15:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
how are things going? I've been busy. If you recall, I've been unable to update Ohlone because of work and the book-selling business. Anyhow, two new books came into my collection via channels. I think you might want to borrow them. Here are the ISBNs: ISBN 0-8070-8529-4 ISBN 0-385-42253-9
meatclerk 06:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I've posted some concerns about the Islamic mythology article on the Mythology Wikiproject's discussion page. I think that you in particular should see them. -- Phatius McBluff 23:24, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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I thought you might be especially interested in light of the discussion about the Child Ballads and Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight currently going on.
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Hey! How's it going? Book sales are leveling off, and I'm getting back to the Wiki. This week I plan to finalize my History of the Name of Redwood City. After that, I'm back to working on Ohlone stuff.
I'm writing to say hi and to let you know I have a personal copy of Names for Plants and Animals Among California and other Western North American Tribes by Clinton Merriam. You are free to borrow it, if you need to, or would like to. I'm cleaning up my collection this week (before the weekend when I have to go back to work.)
I'm not sure where to start. Any suggestion? I'm thinking ohlone salt or one of the villages?
06:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the congratulations, Goldenrowley. I'm slowly working through the comments by the GA reviewer for further improvement and am also working through a book with coverage of the fragments of the Sophocles play and its background. My hope is to move the article from one of the nineteen best mythology articles to one of the eight best by the end of the year. In other words, get it to A-class.
Did you actually re-assess the article? In that case I would be interested in any ideas for what it lacks that is needed for A. If you haven't reassessed it, then I'll just wait until I've finished my current work and put it up for reassessment at that point. I'm assuming that I should satisfy you on its being an A before going for external peer review and FA.
Thanks, again. -- Peter cohen 08:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
About the window...
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Hey, just finishing vacation. Have some new stuff ready.
The text of this poem on Wikisource has been flagged as a potential copyright violation. [8] It looks like you were the user who contributed it. If you know more about the publication history of this poem, that might help. John Vandenberg 01:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
To answer your question: you're right, there should be more references. The problem is that there are very little references, as very little is known about the Morini. The article is a collection of bits and pieces I found in various articles which often are about different but probably related subjects. E.g. the fact that the Morini, like the Bataves build small hills to live upon. Those 'hills' (2 meter) are still found in the region and are the origin of the word 'polder'. But, the information about 'polder' is in my Dutch Etymology Dictionary and I saw those hills on a local television program. The Germanic character of the tribe is solely derived from this one little word in Zosimus's text, and Medieval maps. It's known that after the Roman Empire the region was known as to be Frankish (again: Germanic), but also that this region did not contribute in conquering Gaul under Clovis. In fact, Clovis annexed the region at the end of his life, long after the conquest of Gaul. The tribal region itself is derived from the presence of the specific West-Flemish dialect. I could not find a complete text about the Morini and moreover, there is a lot of confusion about nearly all the Belgian tribes, their location and their language. The reason is politics. French historians will claim a 'Gaulish' character of the region (like they do for most of Belgium). As the Morini are not a 'hot' subject, I added this coloured map where I situated not only the Morini, but also other Belgian tribes. French maps will give you a completely different view. So, it's very difficult to give good references. My website is: proto-english where I again break all the rules. There, I do have the same problem: how to give references when I state something completely opposite to what is widely accepted? I hope that someone will add references, one never know. -- Michael042 ( talk) 11:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for your edits to Tammukan, California, wow how my stub has grown! W-i-k-i-l-o-v-e-r-1-7 ( talk) 07:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
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Sorry to drag you into another one of these endless quarrels on the Christian mythology talk page. But I'd like your 2 cents on an issue that I've raised regarding one contributor's recent edits. You seem to be one of the most dedicated contributors to that particular article.
By the way, while I'm here, I should mention that I think Comparative mythology could benefit from a new quality-scale review. (I'm going to leave a message to that effect on the Wikiproject Mythology talk page.) I seem to remember you giving quality ratings to a number of articles. -- Phatius McBluff ( talk) 03:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your great edit on
Beatrice; the second or third glance convinced me that my focus on distinguishing Dante's two of them had got me "all tangled in my underwear" (as my love likes to put it -- well, never mind that), and you cut what had seemed to me a Gordian knot. I'd also argued myself into treating the Princesses and Stains [heh!] as marginalia adequately dealt with by lks to the respective Dabs, but your expansion of those was something i'd have felt was worthwhile if i hadn't been so thoroly Beatriced up to here.
I usually make a point of reasserting that "People" means the same as "Historical persons", but many flowers blooming actually facilitates
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You might be interested if you take a peek at what i'm gonna do with sorting the people, and i'm sure la comtessa di Dia's final state was something you didn't intend, and talk to me if you like about my "tersifying" entries and removing 2nd blue lks, but it's certainly been a pleasure working with you!
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Hello Goldenrowley
My name is Brandon I'm a Senior in Illustration at Massachusetts College of Art in Boston, MA , working on my senior thesis degree project. My topic is the Krampus monster, a pagan figure in folklore/ Alpine tradition.I noticed you contributed a large amount of information to the Krampus main page and others, I was wondering if it was possible to interview/ask you some questions about the Krampus, it would help out my project a great deal. feel free to email me back or respond through this thread, thank you for your time.
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Hello Goldenrowley
My name is Brandon I'm a Senior in Illustration at Massachusetts College of Art in Boston, MA , working on my senior thesis degree project. My topic is the Krampus monster, a pagan figure in folklore/ Alpine tradition.I noticed you contributed a large amount of information to the Krampus main page and others, I was wondering if it was possible to interview/ask you some questions about the Krampus, it would help out my project a great deal. feel free to email me back or respond through this thread, thank you for your time.
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Hi...thanks for transwiki'ing this article. I'm unfamiliar with the process, however I see that you added a {{prod}} template to it. Can we instead add a {{wi}} template and leave it at that? That way it can be categorized and linked. Thanks again. Wizard191 ( talk) 13:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
That would be fine with me, doing it now. Goldenrowley ( talk) 04:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
When you get a chance, your comments on some recent edits I made to Mythology would be appreciated. See the talk page. Thanks! -- Phatius McBluff ( talk) 04:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC) I am sorry having a hard semester at school and not able to read it yet. Goldenrowley ( talk) 07:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Wiktionary would be good... -- Bubblecuffer ( talk) 23:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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That should be possible; I'll add it to the list of future updates. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 05:24, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
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If I remember correctly it is a French fairy tale of some literary significance, shouldn't have been deleted for the reasons given (it is not a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.). Yes if restored I can add notability (if its not already there). Should I get an admin to help me? Goldenrowley ( talk) 00:11, 29 March 2009 (UTC) .... I've just gone to the person who deleted it and asked him or her to restore it. I've also begun to discuss its notability on its still existent talk page. Goldenrowley ( talk) 00:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
The {{ ManualTranswiki}} template provides the instructions, but I can make that clearer. The list of terms for gay unfortunately needs to be taken care of with a manual copy/paste, though - it's too big and has too many revisions for the bot to handle with import. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 04:21, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Couldn't sleep so fixed some wikipages. On Ohlone, user 206.110.235.13 on 26 February 2009 vandalized in two places, now fixed. BTW, ohlone were in Marin County, but we have no direct references. Also removed a book added to "further reading" as we have it listed in "references".
That said, when the first missionary settlers first settled they fired the customary cannon salute -- scaring all the natives in the area across the bay (east and north). Many other reports of native coming and going to north and east bay, but as I said, there is **NO** historian note, book or direct reference. So again, in the first section "CULTURE", we cannot say for sure that they "lived" there, they may have visited relative, or in-laws (so to speak), but not "lived". Your removal of said added note has my support. Cheers. meatclerk ( talk) 10:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Dear Goldenrowley:
I am a new contributor, only a few days old. I see that you have been working to improve the "Ohlone" article since September of 2006. Central California Indian ethnography is one of my few fields of expertice. You will notice a bunch of edits and references I just contributed to the "Ohlone" article. I apologize for not doing summary statements for most of my edits. When I started, I did not know I was supposed to do that. Then, even after I learned that I should, and made some summary comments, I continued to forget just now. I will get better.
I hope you agree that I sharpened up the "Language" section. If I goofed up, I know what to expect.
Regards, and thanks for all your work, Middle Fork ( talk) 23:40, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley! You are one of the Wikipedia shamans to me. Sorry I squashed some stuff that should have stayed in. I just read Andrew Lih's book "Wikipedia Revolution" and learned that one of the major rules is "be bold". Howeve, that may not be fair to workers in the trenches this many years down the road. So I am quite ready to be beaten into place. BTW, I really like your Ohlone stuff. But I thought that the Bay Miwok stuff felt like an afterthought.
Did I remove any Kroeber or Levy? I thought I removed George Emmanuel and Charles Bohakel. I have known their works since the 1980s. They are not at all scholarly. Its like they took Kroeber 1925 and ran with it, dumping in their own ideas. It frightens me that school kids and teacher would be handed off to their work. I did not think that was what Jimmy Whales had in mind for Wikipedia at the start. I hope you go read their work, and reconsider, if you did put them back in. The classic works on Bay Miwok are Beeler, Bennyhoff, and Callaghan, with stuff about individual local tribes (not villages) from Milliken.
Anyway, I will be hanging around, doing some pruning. In the end, I think you will be gland. Middle Fork ( talk) 02:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley.
I want to revisit the Bohakel and Emmanuel references in the Bay Miwok article with you. I just read the "Wikipedia:Reliable Sources" and I quote: "This page in a nutshell: Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Both Bohakel and Emmanuel were self-published. Both men were eager well-intentioned amateurs who did not live in an intellectual world of peers. Neither had even heard of Madison Beeler, discoverer of Saclan as a Miwok language, or James A Bennyhoff, the dean of published Bay Miwok ethnogeography, when they wrote (or of the Bay Miwok language for that matter, as they thought Saclan was a Costanoan language, per Kroeber 1926). Neither reference supports any point made in the article, as far as I can see; I think they are "legacy" citations from some article writer that preceded you. I hope that you will remove the two references. Middle Fork ( talk) 19:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley. I struck Bohakel and Emmanuel, per your agreement. Now I have a question. As I cruise around in various articles, I see that many Notes will have an "a,b,...n" after a given note number (for instance, in notes in the Mount Diablo article). Yet I see no indication of a series of subnotes, either in the note or in the reference point in the body of the article. Can you point me to a Wiki Help page that will explain the "a,b,...n" to me? Middle Fork ( talk) 15:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Goldenrowley. I just made some structural changes and important etymological explanation changes in your introduction to Ohlone article. I defend the changes over at the Ohlone discussion page. Middle Fork ( talk) 16:30, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley. I note that you removed the Goerke reference that I added to the Chief Marin blurb. I also note that you retained the far less scholarly "Teather" citations. The Goerke book is very important, and should be seen by people who may not choose to click over to a separate Chief Marin Wikipedia article. Please return the Goerke reference to the page. Middle Fork ( talk) 18:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Goldenrowley. You will see that I changed Marin to something different than either of the last two. I'm fine if you rechange it, I only care that the Goerke signpost remains. Speaking of change, I note that a GAR reviewer really likes the way you put citations at the end of paragraphs in the Ohlone article. I know I put them immediately after the sentence in question, and did not change mine after you told me your rule. I actually prefer a third system, due to familiarity. Its the anthropological literature tradition, where the text citations are like (Bennyhoff 1977:44), with no need to click to a note to get a sense of the source. In that tradition we reserve notes for some discussion point that might be pretty esoteric. Would you like me to go back systematically through my Ohlone, Bay Miwok, and Coast Miwok additions and move my embedded notes markers to the ends of paragraphs? Middle Fork ( talk) 02:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Reply to: Transwiki's new import bot hasn't been importing anything since April. Is it ok? hopefully so. I just finished 2005 and had to tell someone... :-) Goldenrowley ( talk) 01:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Goldenrowley. I read Cirt's criticism of the "Notable Ohlone's" list and I agree with you that there is no reason to move it onto its own page, when it is a logical subsection of the Ohlone article. However, I want to change its membership, and explain why first. I feel it was built by someone, you perhaps, who had just read Alan Brown's 1973 La Peninsula article; this makes it too heavily loaded with Mission Dolores people, when in fact there were "first converts" and relatively famous people in every mission group. I think we should keep the "Ohlone Notables" list to no more that 12, and make them the 12 most interesting people for illustrating large themes, firsts, lasts, and ethnographic consultants. I am going to move Chamis, Mossues, and Andres Osorio to a Notable Ramaytush page (and repeat others as pertinent). Then I am going to add Lorenzo Asisara of Santa Cruz and Baltazar of Carmel to the main page. I strongly believe Pomponio, a known Coast Miwok, does not belong on this list, but I know he is dear to your heart, so I will not touch it. I petition you to remove him yourself. PS. I peaking behind the "green curtain" of Wikipedia mysticism and found that you are a top editor, number 1,441 on the list (over 19,000 edits). Wow! Congratulations and thanks for your dedication. Middle Fork ( talk) 15:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Regarding Pomponio. He was Mission San Francisco Baptism 2546 (January 2, 1803), at age 5. His father was a Huimen Coast Miwok (Richardson Bay) and his mother was a Guaulen Coast Miwok (Bolinas Bay). Alan K. Brown, a great man and scholar, first found these entries and published a great accurate story about Pomponio in a obscure magazine called The Argonaut which I put in the Wikipedia citations someplace. Brown combines accuracy with beautiful writing, so I hope you can find that article. Later, I independently reached the same conclusion about Pomponio's identity. Finally, Betty Goerke has the same identity, and a few more pages about Pomponio, in her new Chief Marin book (encourage your local library to purchase that book). Middle Fork ( talk) 22:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
At Your Service, Goldenrowley! I added and tinkered with Chief Marin. Now you can tidy it up. By the way, you write: "Of course I know you are busy with much larger issues." That's what I think when I see you working on the local Indian stuff, that a man with 19,000 edits is probably also keeping the "Iliad" page clean and fighting vandals off of the "Obama" page :-). Sadly, its too bad few people care if we get any of this stuff right. Middle Fork ( talk) 21:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry I offered up that "space ships" line. Everyone in this Wikipedia world has their favorite topics and their own ideas about what is "obvious" and we seem to have touched a sensitive place about 'written language" in Geometryguy. By the way, the 1996 Handbook of the Indians of North America volume on Language (1986) does have quite a section on a number of special alphabets that various groups have developed (not just Cherokee) since European contact, usually having to do with translating the Bible. Middle Fork ( talk) 21:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
HaHaHaHa. You are correct, sir. Middle Fork ( talk) 23:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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