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Alas, only a redirect for shellsuit, not even its own article - but a pretty high flammability index, I would think. Martinevans123 ( talk) 22:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi how are you?
Thanks for your help and suggestions on the Hundred Years' War , I've referred the article to the copyeditors!
Ref previous item - stayed at the George in Chepstow many years ago, surprised it's still in business!!
Rgds Wilfridselsey ( talk) 16:55, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
I was commenting a number of interlinks, to temporarily remove associations between the target indvidual (the subject of recent negative media attention) and others, unrelated to that negative media attention. The commenting is temporary, and the links can be re-instated if desired. Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 17:26, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Ghmyrtle. I'm hoping people don't think I was a woos not being bold earlier:). I thought it best to tiptoe through editing before until I get the do's and don'ts of Wikipedia. Jonty Monty ( talk) 20:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks for expanding the article. I was kind of hoping someone would take it on. Cheers Paul MacDermott ( talk) 10:12, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
The usual question requiring you to dip into that ickle book of yours. Possibly "Good Thing Queen", "Mistreated Woman" or "Another Blues Day" maybe. She co-wrote "Soon As the Weather Breaks", possibly a minor hit for Bobby Bland (and maybe her too) ? Another long shot - as per the norm. Thanks,
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 12:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 00:02, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | |
For your tireless work and good humour at Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal. John ( talk) 09:39, 18 October 2012 (UTC) |
What do you know about Cathy Jean & the Roomates; [1] Don & Juan; [2] and The Tune Weavers (" Happy, Happy Birthday Baby") [3] ? Apart from the fact that none of the acts have an article here, that is. Surely a bit more your scene than mine. They cropped up in this 15 (yes, fifteen) CD compilation Oldies But Goodies: Legendary Hits. [4]
I thought you might be vaguely interested.
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 19:50, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Back to those without an article - sorry, I can not remember how to do those pointy connecting lines thing - how about The Jaguars and The Shields ? Whilst I remember, well done on Cathy Jean and the Roommates. Regards, Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 23:25, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Please note that I have issued a level 2 warning, adjusted to take into account the revert that you made before mine. Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/ The Welsh Buzzard 15:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Could you tell me why you reverted the edit I made surrounding the auction of Jimmy Saviles possesions? I cited a ref and the information is pertinent to the article. If you smoked - I doubt that 3 empty packs of your smokes would sell for £25 after your death. This article is about Jimmy Savile and his life and death. That is why there is another article for the abuse allegations. I am going to put the info back in as it is relevent to the artcle. Markdarrly ( talk) 15:49, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Without being aware of this discussion I edited that section anyway. The non-ref of the auctioneer's website has been replaced by one from Mail Online (best I could find at short notice). I've fixed the grammar issues with the latter hall renaming section and added another ref, again replacing the non-ref from the auction house which I am highly doubtful would have covered this anyway. Having seen the earlier version I would be quite happy to revert to that for the auction section, with my ref (or another independent ref) appended. Will post this comment both here and on the article talk page for ease of reply. danno_ uk 20:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Dear Ghmyrtle,
I will back off of the public comments on this topic here for awhile. But I ask you to give my points a private consideration. I don't expect things to change any time soon, but, with all due respect, I appeal to you, as a Master Editor, to please do some reseach and reflection about the things I have expressed in my posts, (in your own time, over a sufficiant period of time) and try to see the possibility that my points may be valid and necessary.
I don't know if punk rock is a style you listen to (you must, if you are involved with this article), but I know that IllaZilla is someone who does, based on what he has written. Perhaps, both of you could make this a study project (along with some other top editors). You will find it a most enjoyable experience. I assure you.
Yours Truly, Garagepunk66 ( talk) 00:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
P.S. Here is a short list of songs to consider (some I have mentioned, some I have not), but you can access many more on Youtube. Please take time to listen. Share these and others with IllaZilla and other editors:
1) "It's a Cryin Shame," The Gentlemen (Vanden, 1966); also: rehearsl verison (1966) 2) "Destination Lonely," the Huns (1966) 3) "We're Pretty Quick," The Chob (1967) 4) "1523 Blair," The Outcasts (rec. 1966, re. 1967) 5) "Project Blue," The Banshees (Dunwich, 1966) 6) "I'm Movin' On," Evil (1966) 7) "From a Curbstone," Evil (1966) 8) "She's Been Travelin' Round the World," The Seeds of Time (1966) 9) "And She Said Yes," The Painted Ship (1966) 10)"The World Ain't Round, It's Square," The Savages (1966) 11) "Look in Your Mirror," The Merlynn Tree (1966) 12)"The Courtship of Rapunzel," The Bruthers (1966) 13) "Circuit Breaker," the Pastels (1965) 14)"Voices Green and Purple," the Bees (1966) 15)"I'm a Nothing," by The Magic Plants (1966) 16)"On Tour," by The Chancellors (1966) 17)"It's Gonna Take Awile," The Morticans 18)Watch: Sylvania TV Commercial Rock 1966 ...(and many more) Garagepunk66 ( talk) 00:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
reverting my edit? μηδείς ( talk) 19:07, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Dear Ghmyrtle:
I implore you to please restore the improvements I made to the heading of "Garage Rock." I went into detail about why I made these changes in a thread that somebody else had started ("Not enough detail") in the Garage Rock talk section. This individual and others complained that the article is too brief for a phenominon of the degree of size, scope, and historical importance of garage rock. We are dealing with the largest popular grass-roots rock movement in histrory, at the time of the largest youth generation' coming of age, during the apex of the golden era of rock, yet the subject is being treated as something small. Please read the comments by myself and others in that section. I pointed out that a good way to improve the article would be to have a better and more richly-worded heading. The heading , as it stands, is almost anemic. Let me explain (once again) the rationale of my changes:
I made necessary additions to the heading of the Garage Rock article, which better serve the proportions of the genre which the article addresses. I added mention of the "numerous bands," because this is not only factual, but essential to unerstanding the phenominon of garage rock craze that swept the country (and other countries) during this period. I added the reference to "other countries" (in parenthesis), because the phenominon, though most prevelent in North America, also took place in other countries, such as Sweden, Denmark, Itlay, Peru, Japan, etc., as well as having a close relationship with many bands in the UK (though these are more commonly referred to as "British Invasion," and/or "Freakbeat, however thare are certain bands, such as The Troggs or The Renegades that have been commonly referred to as "garage"). Some of the bands in the Wiki list of garage bands come form other countries--i.e. the ones who have been characterized as "garage." I added mention that garage rock "along with the British Invasion and folk rock, helped define the guitar rock sound of the mid-60s," because this is, not only true, but also essential to our understanding of it. I added "early half" to the description about the critics in the 70s, beacuse, without it, the statement is confusing. This addition makes the statement, not only more precise, factually speaking, but more clear. I put the phrase "has become" in the last sentence, because it is more factual. The genre has not always been predominantly referred to as "garage rock." In the early to mid seventies it was more commonly referred to as "punk rock," only sometimes as "garage..." The term "garage band" was popularly used for quite some time, but has now been shifted, in the public mind, to refer to a brand of software (it seems that every word used to describe garage rock ends up getting taken by someone else!). I made some other slight changes in wording, as to make smoother, clearer transitions, but I tried to keep as much of the earlier text as possible. I have tried to respect the contributions of earler editors. My changes and additions are merely refinements and improvements, and do not constitute an overhaul. However, there remains a pressing need for greater expansion of other sections of the article, as well as possible additions of new sections, considering the vastness and importance of this topic.
I ask you to please retore the improvements I made. They have made the article stronger, more informantive, more factual, and more appealing. I think our concern should be what is best for the article. I worked very hard on crafting out these improvements, and I cannot understand why they have been taken away. I genuinely tried to avoid some of the mistakes of some of my prior changes, and I was almost certain that you would back me up this time around. I wish that you would accept me as a legitimate editor (I do not want to be a nuisance or intruder). I am a very thoughtful person. I am trying to be a good editor and do things in a responsible way. The subject of garage rock is something I have quite a bit of knowledge on and deep interest in. I wish that you would accept me as an editor who wants to work with you to improve this article. It would better serve the needs of the article as well as its readers. I realize that I have pressed a lot of issues lately, but only when for the best. I do appreciate that you have made some supportive decisions in favor of my ideas in the past, so I am indeed grateful. Just give me a chance to help build a better article for "garage rock." Please see me as a construcive partner in that endevor.
Sincerly, Garagepunk66 ( talk) 02:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Does this name mean anything to you ? He had a No.25 hit in February 1964 on the Billboard Hot 100 with "A Letter From Sherry", [9] which according to my source was a million seller. [1] Equally, according to my book he "joined the trend of pop stars gone country in 1971". Thought you might fancy a challenge.
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 14:16, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I had to delete your comments as they were irrelevant to a call for consensus on the addition of the BBC child abuse/Newsnight/Saville fiasco. A consensus section is where you state whether you are for or against content being added not go off on one. If you read the talk history you will find an editor suddenly appeared and deleted the criticisms/child abuse section against best wiki practice. The consensus section is to affirm whether editors agree or disagree in this case to content addition. Twobells ( talk) 22:27, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
What the heck has happened to the 'Difference between revisions' facility ? It may be just my browser (whatever that is), or my eyes, or something else, but I am struggling to tell what/how/in which way the edit has actually changed anything. Rather like the Police and Crime Commissioner fiasco, did we vote for this ?? Ohhh.... I must be getting old. (And while you are about it, why are our Police these days all young kids about 5 foot 4 inches tall ?)
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 22:43, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
I've reverted your edits because this source - http://www.bushywood.com/alison_taylor_whistleblower.htm - appears to be a self-published blog, which is essentially unreliable. In an article of such contentiousness and importance, we must use reliable sources, not blogs. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 19:40, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.. I've taken this step really as a precaution - I'm mainly concerned that no-one gets into any legal difficulties over this. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 20:37, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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The revert on Savile Scandal is not helpful Newsnight investigation comes at end of 2011 before Exposure in Timeline although Pollard stuff obviously can come later. Ellizzia ( talk) 15:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Was it really necessary to expand the tabloid bloat to yet another article? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Do you feel any great passion to rejoin the discussion at Talk:West_Country#Bournemouth_and_Poole_are_not_West_Country_towns? -- Bob Re-born ( talk) 20:20, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
The only "numptiness" occurring here is from your end, Bob. Everything I have seen of you shows that you are a disruptive editor who obstinately refuses to co-operate with those he disagrees with on any level, and the fact that you would even question talking about the dispute that you have single-handedly caused shows a great degree of arrogance. If you have no desire to rejoin the discussion that you caused in the first place over a year ago, then you have no right to any say in the matter.
Bournemouth is not included in any defintion of the West Country. That much is irrefutably clear, as I have shown multiple times. Therefore, it should not be included in any incarnation of the main list, which itself should not be included at all. A sum of all definitions is bad enough as such a thing tends to include places that aren't really in the West Country but are mistakenly considered to be so by a handful of ignorant people, for example Gloucester. Bournemouth, however, is not included in the West Country by any definition, including the one you have been clinging to, and so has no place in the article however much you intend to stretch the boundaries of reason. Go and read the talk page Bob Re-born, I know doing such a thing is not your strong point but it is an absolute must if you wish to remain relevant in this dispute.
There is no good reason for having Bournemouth in the article, and as things stand, it shall be removed once the lock is finished.
And sorry about the message Ghmyrtle, but an edit such as his warranted a reply. VoiceOfReason922 ( talk) 21:04, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! :) BrothaTimothy ( talk · contribs) 16:47, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Eeeh... you are never too old to learn something new. Watching the box this evening ( BBC Four) and Muddy Waters and The Rolling Stones were there videoed and recorded in 1981. Good stuff, and blow me down there is a guitarist amongst the throng whom I did not recognise... it was Lefty Dizz ! His newish Wiki article was one of mine from just a couple of months ago. Turns out that Live at the Checkerboard Lounge, Chicago 1981 was only released in July this year.
Maybe I should concentrate on being glued to the TV, and give reflinks a miss - it seems to attract as much grief as plaudits. Mind you, as it 'appens, you seem to be in the same boat.
Still, I'm the hoochie coochie man, Everybody knows I'm him. Saluté,
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 01:50, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello! I nominated the John Hefin article for DYK. Feel free to suggest an alternate hook. Take care, Moswento talky 14:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My76Strat ( talk) 11:14, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
On 29 November 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Hefin, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1962, television director John Hefin graffitied a rock in support of a local politician? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John Hefin. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 16:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
I found a great Wiki article that gives helpful information about garage and psychedlic LP and CD compilations ("List of Garage and Psychedelic Compilation Albums"). Perhaps you could help me create a link to it in the "Garage Rock" article. I also put some comments in the talk section of that article (I recommended some slight changes in the "Overview" section to make it sound more objective and encyclopedic--you might help me with this, too). Thanks. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 06:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Autobiog not relevant just surprised after Savile thing she didn't have a page. Thanks for comments. I have referenced what I can. I realise that University of Lancashire came from LinkedIn which is not a proper Wiki source so I have removed it. On Savile do you think Mark Williams Thomas should have a Wiki page? Ellizzia ( talk) 16:56, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Does this name mean anything to you ? AMG has this and he had two UK hit singles in 1960 with "Tease Me (Must You Always)" and "Listen Little Girl". Also, according to the Guinness Book of Hit Thingamies, he was born Michael Pailthorpe. He is almost listed on Wikipedia at Keith Kelly. Knowing your penchant for George Martin related stuff, I though he might interest you. If not, there's no problem. Pass him back to me and I'll maybe have a go before Santa arrives. Best wishes,
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 22:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Did someone leave the door open over at Kenny's page? It's begining to feel stangely chilly over there.. ?? Martinevans123 ( talk) 23:35, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Interested in helping get this article back into shape? See Talk:Pytheas#Major problems with the Thule sections. Dougweller ( talk) 08:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Could I prevail on your good nature again, and ask if you would take a peek in your little R&B book for me. When you have the time - no rush. I am hoping one of the following may have made the chart. "All Night Long", "(The) Haunted House" (later covered by Jumpin' Gene Simmons amongst others), "Cry Won't Make Me Stay" or "Johnny Ace's Last Letter". Otherwise, Fuller's notability looks a little thin, without a hit to show for his efforts. Mucho thanks,
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 13:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Just in case your soul music 'to do list' is empty, are the following notable enough ? Christine Kittrell [12]; Bobby Wade [13]; and the King Pins [14]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derek R Bullamore ( talk • contribs) 14:13, 7 December 2012
One of Pope Benedict's aides hears that the Holy Father has now enthusiatically embraced the new technology and is merrily Tweeting away and buying all his crimbo prezzies on eBay and Amazon. Worried about this unprecedented move towards modernity, the aide hurriedly confronts him, "Your Holiness, aren't you worried about the risks of identity theft?" To which the Pope calmly replies, "Not at all. I do have Pay-pal infallibility, you know!" (My sincere apologies for having to bring this joke to your attention... ) Martinevans123 ( talk) 16:28, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Good work on rejigging Operation Fairbank, am perplexed at lack of mainstream coverage. Once bitten... 3k views! Gareth E Kegg ( talk) 16:39, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Does this name mean anything to you ? Two sizable UK chart hits with covers of " Suddenly There's a Valley" and " Crying in the Chapel". The Allmusic article makes interesting reading, eg. born Leon Siroto; dead at the age of 40. I must admit I do not know the name at all. Over to you ?
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 12:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
hiya - i'm going to reinstate some of my changes to the operation fairbank page.... i think they contain useful detail. i will be mindful of your comments about duplication.
ta. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.241.166.171 ( talk) 23:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I appreciate your points about duplication and this morning I was more careful to avoid that but - for god's sake - David Hencke of Exaro is not an unreliable source - he won the press gazette award for journalist of the year this month. He's been a Guardian journalist for more than 30 years. He is a friend of Tom Watson and he helped the police by accompanying the source to a meeting. Have you even read his stories? please don't undo my edits again until you have found out who he is and what he is saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma1913 ( talk • contribs) 11:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi - I really don't want to 'edit war'. let's go through this point by point and come to a concensus. My reliable secondary source for the name of the detective leading the operation is about 2 thirds of the way down this article: http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4764/police-investigate-top-tories-over-child-abuse-at-guest-house My reliable second source for the police having failed to pursue the case twice before is here: http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4765/police-twice-failed-to-probe-paedophile-ring-at-guest-house best wishes, Emma Emma1913 ( talk) 11:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Hiya, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Our differences seem to be based around whether or not Exaro counts as a reliable source. The problem I have is that I have read the guidelines and I can't see why you think it isn't. It's not a self-published blog. It's a medium sized news organisation with staff and editors. Plus its articles can be accessed for free (for a week at least) - it just requires registration. And I note that wikipedia accepts articles in the Financial Times and the Times as sources (which are also require registration.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma1913 ( talk • contribs) 12:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thet all said to me the figures that I put up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BBCjj11 ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 18 December 2012 Replied to you on my page.
I am Welsh and proud to be Welsh, I am NOT British. I think it is important to state on Wikipedia that a person is Welsh when they are born in Wales to raise world-wide awareness of the many people born in Wales because too many people around the world see British as English and English as British.
78.147.228.222 ( talk) 21:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Gareth Griffith-Jones
– The WelshBuzzard – is wishing you
the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's
solstice or
Christmas,
Diwali,
Hogmanay,
Hanukkah,
Lenaia,
Festivus,
or the
Saturnalia,
this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.
Martinevans123
Santas Grotto wishes you and yours
"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"
May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace ....
I am happy to act as a moderator for changes, but am not sure that I want to do all the editing. Peterkingiron ( talk) 20:13, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Seasons greetings to you and yours
Dougweller (
talk) 14:16, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Apparently I've been accused of vandalizing Little Richard's introduction summary on his page. I was the one that had put the transition sentence back in 2009 and wanted it changed. But apparently I'm vandalizing because according to Smoovedogg (who has no page by the way), I'm vandalizing the page. Maybe you can sort this article out. I'm through. If they want to make the article a fan page, let them. lol BrothaTimothy ( talk · contribs) 00:59, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Continually removing material without explanation constitutes vandalism. The fact you feel entitled to an apology says a lot about your agenda here. أنا أحبك ( talk) 14:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
No problem at all. I'm trying to get a few articles on Monmouthsire houses done and was only asking Dr. B today if you might have pictures of Wyndcliffe, Mounton and Wyelands. Sadly, I don't get down to Monmouth much these days or I'd mount an expedition myself. Best regards. KJP1 ( talk) 22:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
With nothing better to do over the Festive Period (ha ha), I helplessly stumbled across the article for Les Reed. I have 'improved' the piece more than a trifle (with an overload of sherry and a cherry on top) but, in my trawling about, discovered that those of a similar ilk are equally poorly described. The usual lack of content and shortage of references sadly abound. I thought, hang on a minute, these bods for better or for worse, wrote part of the soundtrack for the UK's late 1960s and early 1970s generation of pop fantastic people.
Therefore, in addition to Mr. Reed, I proffer Don Black, Gordon Mills, Barry Mason, Geoff Stephens, Roger Cook, Mitch Murray, Tony Macaulay and Roger Greenaway. Possibly not your 'scene' exactly, nor mine if I am perfectly honest, but I thought I would push it your way for an initial thought or two, before widening my scope to ....
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 03:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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... and here's a lovely quaint Suffolk village folk band that you're sure to love. Martinevans123 ( talk) 15:29, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I was not intending to belabor old polemics, in my latest thread. I was simply proposing a few improvements to the "Garage rock" article (not the "Punk rock" article), a couple of which may have been related to prior discussions, but were not quite identical, and others which were completely unrelated, and I think that you have unfairly treated my words as a monolith, when I was addressing myself to various different issues in that thread. I have not added any new threads to the "Punk rock" talk section in a while (and I wish you would acknowledge that), and I have generally backed away from trying to convince people at that site (and other modern punk sites) of the things I was earlier trying to explain, which I think had validity and truth and needed to be expressed (in several places). Let me also say that I have written threads on other issues such as adding discussion of Link Wray to the garage site, so I do not have one sole preoccupation (other than to try to advance knowledge about the topics of the articles I am addressing). I do not engage in mindless diatribes, and I always try to make factual presentations (even if some of them have been a bit long--I am learning the to be more brief), so I was taken aback by your unkind remarks. I think you should always welcome discussion from other editors--if it is intended to be constructive and is fact-based. But, you have slammed the door on anything I have to offer as an editor. And, I find that to be unfortunate (and disrespectful). What disrespect have I ever shown you? When did I ever treat your concerns as trivial? When have I ever tried to disrupt or demean something constructive you were trying to accomplish?
I think you would want to encourage my efforts to help improve the "Garage rock" sites and let me use my knowledge in that subject area. But, I cannot say your remarks on the "Lists..." site, either, were very kind (at a time I was not engaged in any kind of debate whatsoever). Perhaps the word "blessing" was not well-chosen, but you did recommend that work on the garage sites (see Talk:Ramones), which I have done. I have worked dilligently there as you recommened, and I think that it was disingenuous of you to turn around and disparage me on the "List.." site talk page, when I had complemented you, and was trying to do the right thing.
The changes I proposed in my latest thread are perfectly legitiamte requests. You don't have to agree with them. But, you can be more respectful in your remarks. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 10:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
If you wish to delete this post, I would have no objection (it is not of concern to anyone else, and I feel it has served its purpose and is no longer needed). I ask you to respect my decision to delete the ""Revivals section changes needed..." in the "Talk: Garage Rock" section. I know that is not usually the protocol, but I'm sure you would have no objections in this case. If that post would be percieved to be redundant, then it is probably wasting space and detracting from other posts, whether mine or anyone else's. I think the "Link Wray/early influences" post is of higher priority anyway. Thanks. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 21:00, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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Alas, only a redirect for shellsuit, not even its own article - but a pretty high flammability index, I would think. Martinevans123 ( talk) 22:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi how are you?
Thanks for your help and suggestions on the Hundred Years' War , I've referred the article to the copyeditors!
Ref previous item - stayed at the George in Chepstow many years ago, surprised it's still in business!!
Rgds Wilfridselsey ( talk) 16:55, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
I was commenting a number of interlinks, to temporarily remove associations between the target indvidual (the subject of recent negative media attention) and others, unrelated to that negative media attention. The commenting is temporary, and the links can be re-instated if desired. Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 17:26, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Ghmyrtle. I'm hoping people don't think I was a woos not being bold earlier:). I thought it best to tiptoe through editing before until I get the do's and don'ts of Wikipedia. Jonty Monty ( talk) 20:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks for expanding the article. I was kind of hoping someone would take it on. Cheers Paul MacDermott ( talk) 10:12, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
The usual question requiring you to dip into that ickle book of yours. Possibly "Good Thing Queen", "Mistreated Woman" or "Another Blues Day" maybe. She co-wrote "Soon As the Weather Breaks", possibly a minor hit for Bobby Bland (and maybe her too) ? Another long shot - as per the norm. Thanks,
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 12:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 00:02, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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For your tireless work and good humour at Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal. John ( talk) 09:39, 18 October 2012 (UTC) |
What do you know about Cathy Jean & the Roomates; [1] Don & Juan; [2] and The Tune Weavers (" Happy, Happy Birthday Baby") [3] ? Apart from the fact that none of the acts have an article here, that is. Surely a bit more your scene than mine. They cropped up in this 15 (yes, fifteen) CD compilation Oldies But Goodies: Legendary Hits. [4]
I thought you might be vaguely interested.
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 19:50, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Back to those without an article - sorry, I can not remember how to do those pointy connecting lines thing - how about The Jaguars and The Shields ? Whilst I remember, well done on Cathy Jean and the Roommates. Regards, Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 23:25, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Please note that I have issued a level 2 warning, adjusted to take into account the revert that you made before mine. Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/ The Welsh Buzzard 15:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Could you tell me why you reverted the edit I made surrounding the auction of Jimmy Saviles possesions? I cited a ref and the information is pertinent to the article. If you smoked - I doubt that 3 empty packs of your smokes would sell for £25 after your death. This article is about Jimmy Savile and his life and death. That is why there is another article for the abuse allegations. I am going to put the info back in as it is relevent to the artcle. Markdarrly ( talk) 15:49, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Without being aware of this discussion I edited that section anyway. The non-ref of the auctioneer's website has been replaced by one from Mail Online (best I could find at short notice). I've fixed the grammar issues with the latter hall renaming section and added another ref, again replacing the non-ref from the auction house which I am highly doubtful would have covered this anyway. Having seen the earlier version I would be quite happy to revert to that for the auction section, with my ref (or another independent ref) appended. Will post this comment both here and on the article talk page for ease of reply. danno_ uk 20:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Dear Ghmyrtle,
I will back off of the public comments on this topic here for awhile. But I ask you to give my points a private consideration. I don't expect things to change any time soon, but, with all due respect, I appeal to you, as a Master Editor, to please do some reseach and reflection about the things I have expressed in my posts, (in your own time, over a sufficiant period of time) and try to see the possibility that my points may be valid and necessary.
I don't know if punk rock is a style you listen to (you must, if you are involved with this article), but I know that IllaZilla is someone who does, based on what he has written. Perhaps, both of you could make this a study project (along with some other top editors). You will find it a most enjoyable experience. I assure you.
Yours Truly, Garagepunk66 ( talk) 00:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
P.S. Here is a short list of songs to consider (some I have mentioned, some I have not), but you can access many more on Youtube. Please take time to listen. Share these and others with IllaZilla and other editors:
1) "It's a Cryin Shame," The Gentlemen (Vanden, 1966); also: rehearsl verison (1966) 2) "Destination Lonely," the Huns (1966) 3) "We're Pretty Quick," The Chob (1967) 4) "1523 Blair," The Outcasts (rec. 1966, re. 1967) 5) "Project Blue," The Banshees (Dunwich, 1966) 6) "I'm Movin' On," Evil (1966) 7) "From a Curbstone," Evil (1966) 8) "She's Been Travelin' Round the World," The Seeds of Time (1966) 9) "And She Said Yes," The Painted Ship (1966) 10)"The World Ain't Round, It's Square," The Savages (1966) 11) "Look in Your Mirror," The Merlynn Tree (1966) 12)"The Courtship of Rapunzel," The Bruthers (1966) 13) "Circuit Breaker," the Pastels (1965) 14)"Voices Green and Purple," the Bees (1966) 15)"I'm a Nothing," by The Magic Plants (1966) 16)"On Tour," by The Chancellors (1966) 17)"It's Gonna Take Awile," The Morticans 18)Watch: Sylvania TV Commercial Rock 1966 ...(and many more) Garagepunk66 ( talk) 00:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
reverting my edit? μηδείς ( talk) 19:07, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Dear Ghmyrtle:
I implore you to please restore the improvements I made to the heading of "Garage Rock." I went into detail about why I made these changes in a thread that somebody else had started ("Not enough detail") in the Garage Rock talk section. This individual and others complained that the article is too brief for a phenominon of the degree of size, scope, and historical importance of garage rock. We are dealing with the largest popular grass-roots rock movement in histrory, at the time of the largest youth generation' coming of age, during the apex of the golden era of rock, yet the subject is being treated as something small. Please read the comments by myself and others in that section. I pointed out that a good way to improve the article would be to have a better and more richly-worded heading. The heading , as it stands, is almost anemic. Let me explain (once again) the rationale of my changes:
I made necessary additions to the heading of the Garage Rock article, which better serve the proportions of the genre which the article addresses. I added mention of the "numerous bands," because this is not only factual, but essential to unerstanding the phenominon of garage rock craze that swept the country (and other countries) during this period. I added the reference to "other countries" (in parenthesis), because the phenominon, though most prevelent in North America, also took place in other countries, such as Sweden, Denmark, Itlay, Peru, Japan, etc., as well as having a close relationship with many bands in the UK (though these are more commonly referred to as "British Invasion," and/or "Freakbeat, however thare are certain bands, such as The Troggs or The Renegades that have been commonly referred to as "garage"). Some of the bands in the Wiki list of garage bands come form other countries--i.e. the ones who have been characterized as "garage." I added mention that garage rock "along with the British Invasion and folk rock, helped define the guitar rock sound of the mid-60s," because this is, not only true, but also essential to our understanding of it. I added "early half" to the description about the critics in the 70s, beacuse, without it, the statement is confusing. This addition makes the statement, not only more precise, factually speaking, but more clear. I put the phrase "has become" in the last sentence, because it is more factual. The genre has not always been predominantly referred to as "garage rock." In the early to mid seventies it was more commonly referred to as "punk rock," only sometimes as "garage..." The term "garage band" was popularly used for quite some time, but has now been shifted, in the public mind, to refer to a brand of software (it seems that every word used to describe garage rock ends up getting taken by someone else!). I made some other slight changes in wording, as to make smoother, clearer transitions, but I tried to keep as much of the earlier text as possible. I have tried to respect the contributions of earler editors. My changes and additions are merely refinements and improvements, and do not constitute an overhaul. However, there remains a pressing need for greater expansion of other sections of the article, as well as possible additions of new sections, considering the vastness and importance of this topic.
I ask you to please retore the improvements I made. They have made the article stronger, more informantive, more factual, and more appealing. I think our concern should be what is best for the article. I worked very hard on crafting out these improvements, and I cannot understand why they have been taken away. I genuinely tried to avoid some of the mistakes of some of my prior changes, and I was almost certain that you would back me up this time around. I wish that you would accept me as a legitimate editor (I do not want to be a nuisance or intruder). I am a very thoughtful person. I am trying to be a good editor and do things in a responsible way. The subject of garage rock is something I have quite a bit of knowledge on and deep interest in. I wish that you would accept me as an editor who wants to work with you to improve this article. It would better serve the needs of the article as well as its readers. I realize that I have pressed a lot of issues lately, but only when for the best. I do appreciate that you have made some supportive decisions in favor of my ideas in the past, so I am indeed grateful. Just give me a chance to help build a better article for "garage rock." Please see me as a construcive partner in that endevor.
Sincerly, Garagepunk66 ( talk) 02:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Does this name mean anything to you ? He had a No.25 hit in February 1964 on the Billboard Hot 100 with "A Letter From Sherry", [9] which according to my source was a million seller. [1] Equally, according to my book he "joined the trend of pop stars gone country in 1971". Thought you might fancy a challenge.
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 14:16, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I had to delete your comments as they were irrelevant to a call for consensus on the addition of the BBC child abuse/Newsnight/Saville fiasco. A consensus section is where you state whether you are for or against content being added not go off on one. If you read the talk history you will find an editor suddenly appeared and deleted the criticisms/child abuse section against best wiki practice. The consensus section is to affirm whether editors agree or disagree in this case to content addition. Twobells ( talk) 22:27, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
What the heck has happened to the 'Difference between revisions' facility ? It may be just my browser (whatever that is), or my eyes, or something else, but I am struggling to tell what/how/in which way the edit has actually changed anything. Rather like the Police and Crime Commissioner fiasco, did we vote for this ?? Ohhh.... I must be getting old. (And while you are about it, why are our Police these days all young kids about 5 foot 4 inches tall ?)
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 22:43, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
I've reverted your edits because this source - http://www.bushywood.com/alison_taylor_whistleblower.htm - appears to be a self-published blog, which is essentially unreliable. In an article of such contentiousness and importance, we must use reliable sources, not blogs. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 19:40, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.. I've taken this step really as a precaution - I'm mainly concerned that no-one gets into any legal difficulties over this. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 20:37, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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The revert on Savile Scandal is not helpful Newsnight investigation comes at end of 2011 before Exposure in Timeline although Pollard stuff obviously can come later. Ellizzia ( talk) 15:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Was it really necessary to expand the tabloid bloat to yet another article? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Do you feel any great passion to rejoin the discussion at Talk:West_Country#Bournemouth_and_Poole_are_not_West_Country_towns? -- Bob Re-born ( talk) 20:20, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
The only "numptiness" occurring here is from your end, Bob. Everything I have seen of you shows that you are a disruptive editor who obstinately refuses to co-operate with those he disagrees with on any level, and the fact that you would even question talking about the dispute that you have single-handedly caused shows a great degree of arrogance. If you have no desire to rejoin the discussion that you caused in the first place over a year ago, then you have no right to any say in the matter.
Bournemouth is not included in any defintion of the West Country. That much is irrefutably clear, as I have shown multiple times. Therefore, it should not be included in any incarnation of the main list, which itself should not be included at all. A sum of all definitions is bad enough as such a thing tends to include places that aren't really in the West Country but are mistakenly considered to be so by a handful of ignorant people, for example Gloucester. Bournemouth, however, is not included in the West Country by any definition, including the one you have been clinging to, and so has no place in the article however much you intend to stretch the boundaries of reason. Go and read the talk page Bob Re-born, I know doing such a thing is not your strong point but it is an absolute must if you wish to remain relevant in this dispute.
There is no good reason for having Bournemouth in the article, and as things stand, it shall be removed once the lock is finished.
And sorry about the message Ghmyrtle, but an edit such as his warranted a reply. VoiceOfReason922 ( talk) 21:04, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! :) BrothaTimothy ( talk · contribs) 16:47, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Eeeh... you are never too old to learn something new. Watching the box this evening ( BBC Four) and Muddy Waters and The Rolling Stones were there videoed and recorded in 1981. Good stuff, and blow me down there is a guitarist amongst the throng whom I did not recognise... it was Lefty Dizz ! His newish Wiki article was one of mine from just a couple of months ago. Turns out that Live at the Checkerboard Lounge, Chicago 1981 was only released in July this year.
Maybe I should concentrate on being glued to the TV, and give reflinks a miss - it seems to attract as much grief as plaudits. Mind you, as it 'appens, you seem to be in the same boat.
Still, I'm the hoochie coochie man, Everybody knows I'm him. Saluté,
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 01:50, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello! I nominated the John Hefin article for DYK. Feel free to suggest an alternate hook. Take care, Moswento talky 14:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My76Strat ( talk) 11:14, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
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Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 16:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
I found a great Wiki article that gives helpful information about garage and psychedlic LP and CD compilations ("List of Garage and Psychedelic Compilation Albums"). Perhaps you could help me create a link to it in the "Garage Rock" article. I also put some comments in the talk section of that article (I recommended some slight changes in the "Overview" section to make it sound more objective and encyclopedic--you might help me with this, too). Thanks. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 06:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Autobiog not relevant just surprised after Savile thing she didn't have a page. Thanks for comments. I have referenced what I can. I realise that University of Lancashire came from LinkedIn which is not a proper Wiki source so I have removed it. On Savile do you think Mark Williams Thomas should have a Wiki page? Ellizzia ( talk) 16:56, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Does this name mean anything to you ? AMG has this and he had two UK hit singles in 1960 with "Tease Me (Must You Always)" and "Listen Little Girl". Also, according to the Guinness Book of Hit Thingamies, he was born Michael Pailthorpe. He is almost listed on Wikipedia at Keith Kelly. Knowing your penchant for George Martin related stuff, I though he might interest you. If not, there's no problem. Pass him back to me and I'll maybe have a go before Santa arrives. Best wishes,
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 22:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Did someone leave the door open over at Kenny's page? It's begining to feel stangely chilly over there.. ?? Martinevans123 ( talk) 23:35, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Interested in helping get this article back into shape? See Talk:Pytheas#Major problems with the Thule sections. Dougweller ( talk) 08:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Could I prevail on your good nature again, and ask if you would take a peek in your little R&B book for me. When you have the time - no rush. I am hoping one of the following may have made the chart. "All Night Long", "(The) Haunted House" (later covered by Jumpin' Gene Simmons amongst others), "Cry Won't Make Me Stay" or "Johnny Ace's Last Letter". Otherwise, Fuller's notability looks a little thin, without a hit to show for his efforts. Mucho thanks,
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 13:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Just in case your soul music 'to do list' is empty, are the following notable enough ? Christine Kittrell [12]; Bobby Wade [13]; and the King Pins [14]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derek R Bullamore ( talk • contribs) 14:13, 7 December 2012
One of Pope Benedict's aides hears that the Holy Father has now enthusiatically embraced the new technology and is merrily Tweeting away and buying all his crimbo prezzies on eBay and Amazon. Worried about this unprecedented move towards modernity, the aide hurriedly confronts him, "Your Holiness, aren't you worried about the risks of identity theft?" To which the Pope calmly replies, "Not at all. I do have Pay-pal infallibility, you know!" (My sincere apologies for having to bring this joke to your attention... ) Martinevans123 ( talk) 16:28, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Good work on rejigging Operation Fairbank, am perplexed at lack of mainstream coverage. Once bitten... 3k views! Gareth E Kegg ( talk) 16:39, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Does this name mean anything to you ? Two sizable UK chart hits with covers of " Suddenly There's a Valley" and " Crying in the Chapel". The Allmusic article makes interesting reading, eg. born Leon Siroto; dead at the age of 40. I must admit I do not know the name at all. Over to you ?
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 12:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
hiya - i'm going to reinstate some of my changes to the operation fairbank page.... i think they contain useful detail. i will be mindful of your comments about duplication.
ta. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.241.166.171 ( talk) 23:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I appreciate your points about duplication and this morning I was more careful to avoid that but - for god's sake - David Hencke of Exaro is not an unreliable source - he won the press gazette award for journalist of the year this month. He's been a Guardian journalist for more than 30 years. He is a friend of Tom Watson and he helped the police by accompanying the source to a meeting. Have you even read his stories? please don't undo my edits again until you have found out who he is and what he is saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma1913 ( talk • contribs) 11:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi - I really don't want to 'edit war'. let's go through this point by point and come to a concensus. My reliable secondary source for the name of the detective leading the operation is about 2 thirds of the way down this article: http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4764/police-investigate-top-tories-over-child-abuse-at-guest-house My reliable second source for the police having failed to pursue the case twice before is here: http://www.exaronews.com/articles/4765/police-twice-failed-to-probe-paedophile-ring-at-guest-house best wishes, Emma Emma1913 ( talk) 11:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Hiya, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Our differences seem to be based around whether or not Exaro counts as a reliable source. The problem I have is that I have read the guidelines and I can't see why you think it isn't. It's not a self-published blog. It's a medium sized news organisation with staff and editors. Plus its articles can be accessed for free (for a week at least) - it just requires registration. And I note that wikipedia accepts articles in the Financial Times and the Times as sources (which are also require registration.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma1913 ( talk • contribs) 12:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thet all said to me the figures that I put up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BBCjj11 ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 18 December 2012 Replied to you on my page.
I am Welsh and proud to be Welsh, I am NOT British. I think it is important to state on Wikipedia that a person is Welsh when they are born in Wales to raise world-wide awareness of the many people born in Wales because too many people around the world see British as English and English as British.
78.147.228.222 ( talk) 21:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Gareth Griffith-Jones
– The WelshBuzzard – is wishing you
the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's
solstice or
Christmas,
Diwali,
Hogmanay,
Hanukkah,
Lenaia,
Festivus,
or the
Saturnalia,
this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.
Martinevans123
Santas Grotto wishes you and yours
"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"
May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace ....
I am happy to act as a moderator for changes, but am not sure that I want to do all the editing. Peterkingiron ( talk) 20:13, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Seasons greetings to you and yours
Dougweller (
talk) 14:16, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Apparently I've been accused of vandalizing Little Richard's introduction summary on his page. I was the one that had put the transition sentence back in 2009 and wanted it changed. But apparently I'm vandalizing because according to Smoovedogg (who has no page by the way), I'm vandalizing the page. Maybe you can sort this article out. I'm through. If they want to make the article a fan page, let them. lol BrothaTimothy ( talk · contribs) 00:59, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Continually removing material without explanation constitutes vandalism. The fact you feel entitled to an apology says a lot about your agenda here. أنا أحبك ( talk) 14:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
No problem at all. I'm trying to get a few articles on Monmouthsire houses done and was only asking Dr. B today if you might have pictures of Wyndcliffe, Mounton and Wyelands. Sadly, I don't get down to Monmouth much these days or I'd mount an expedition myself. Best regards. KJP1 ( talk) 22:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
With nothing better to do over the Festive Period (ha ha), I helplessly stumbled across the article for Les Reed. I have 'improved' the piece more than a trifle (with an overload of sherry and a cherry on top) but, in my trawling about, discovered that those of a similar ilk are equally poorly described. The usual lack of content and shortage of references sadly abound. I thought, hang on a minute, these bods for better or for worse, wrote part of the soundtrack for the UK's late 1960s and early 1970s generation of pop fantastic people.
Therefore, in addition to Mr. Reed, I proffer Don Black, Gordon Mills, Barry Mason, Geoff Stephens, Roger Cook, Mitch Murray, Tony Macaulay and Roger Greenaway. Possibly not your 'scene' exactly, nor mine if I am perfectly honest, but I thought I would push it your way for an initial thought or two, before widening my scope to ....
Derek R Bullamore ( talk) 03:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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... and here's a lovely quaint Suffolk village folk band that you're sure to love. Martinevans123 ( talk) 15:29, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I was not intending to belabor old polemics, in my latest thread. I was simply proposing a few improvements to the "Garage rock" article (not the "Punk rock" article), a couple of which may have been related to prior discussions, but were not quite identical, and others which were completely unrelated, and I think that you have unfairly treated my words as a monolith, when I was addressing myself to various different issues in that thread. I have not added any new threads to the "Punk rock" talk section in a while (and I wish you would acknowledge that), and I have generally backed away from trying to convince people at that site (and other modern punk sites) of the things I was earlier trying to explain, which I think had validity and truth and needed to be expressed (in several places). Let me also say that I have written threads on other issues such as adding discussion of Link Wray to the garage site, so I do not have one sole preoccupation (other than to try to advance knowledge about the topics of the articles I am addressing). I do not engage in mindless diatribes, and I always try to make factual presentations (even if some of them have been a bit long--I am learning the to be more brief), so I was taken aback by your unkind remarks. I think you should always welcome discussion from other editors--if it is intended to be constructive and is fact-based. But, you have slammed the door on anything I have to offer as an editor. And, I find that to be unfortunate (and disrespectful). What disrespect have I ever shown you? When did I ever treat your concerns as trivial? When have I ever tried to disrupt or demean something constructive you were trying to accomplish?
I think you would want to encourage my efforts to help improve the "Garage rock" sites and let me use my knowledge in that subject area. But, I cannot say your remarks on the "Lists..." site, either, were very kind (at a time I was not engaged in any kind of debate whatsoever). Perhaps the word "blessing" was not well-chosen, but you did recommend that work on the garage sites (see Talk:Ramones), which I have done. I have worked dilligently there as you recommened, and I think that it was disingenuous of you to turn around and disparage me on the "List.." site talk page, when I had complemented you, and was trying to do the right thing.
The changes I proposed in my latest thread are perfectly legitiamte requests. You don't have to agree with them. But, you can be more respectful in your remarks. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 10:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
If you wish to delete this post, I would have no objection (it is not of concern to anyone else, and I feel it has served its purpose and is no longer needed). I ask you to respect my decision to delete the ""Revivals section changes needed..." in the "Talk: Garage Rock" section. I know that is not usually the protocol, but I'm sure you would have no objections in this case. If that post would be percieved to be redundant, then it is probably wasting space and detracting from other posts, whether mine or anyone else's. I think the "Link Wray/early influences" post is of higher priority anyway. Thanks. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 21:00, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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