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I added more on alula to Morphology of Diptera, removed the term as it applies to Diptera from alula main (bird) and fixed the disambiguation.I am about to start a major revision of Morphology of Diptera since discovering that text of Manual of Nearctic Diptera is available gratis as a "legal" pdf. (Canada Government source) obviating the need for figures in part and needless text duplication. I will first write a page on the manual itself. Happy New Year Talk to you soon. Notafly ( talk) 17:59, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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Re this - I did not find a copy of The ordovician crinoid genus Caleidocrinus Waagen and Jahn, 1899, but A revised macroevolutionary history for Ordovician-Early Silurian crinoids lists it as a reference. -- Jreferee ( talk) 23:29, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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Neelix, I note you added a "genera belonging to the Ptychopariida" infobox to Yunnanocephalus, and probably to other Ptychopariid genera as well. You have every right to do so, but I do have doubts about its usefulness, as the number of Ptychopariid genera is so staggeringly big, that anybody will lose its way. It also becomes extreme bulky and may easily utterly dominate articles. I realise you included only a few genera so far, but I suppose you intend to expand as you add it to articles. In general, I would say infoboxes for genera per family are of more use, but not in the case of monotypical families like the Yunnanocephalidae, in which case the genus and family articles are merged and a "families belonging to the Ptychopariida" infobox could be useful. - Dwergenpaartje 16:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Ah. I see. I guess preventing an orphan is not the best argumentation to have an infobox at all. I had a look at Brassicicephalus, and I think it is lacking much information and it is flawed as well (the monotypicallity). Dunno if you feel any need to improve it. If you would tell me you mailaddress, I will send you the information that is in the Treatise (already made the excerpt). My mailaddress is "jachthuis22 at kpnmail dot nl". If you think it is difficult to make it into layman's language, you can have a look at Yunnanocephalus, Angelina, Conocoryphe, Eoredlichia or many other pages, how I do it. Dwergenpaartje 10:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
I found another source from 1988 that is useful, and it seems to concur that Brassicicephalus is not monotypic, and also says it needs to be suppressed because it is the jr. synonym of Exigua, quite the other way around as in Sepkoski (which I could not check as the link did not work). Perhaps Exigua is unavailabe. Global Names Index on this and and the next page provides multiple generic authors, but according to the notation, the first two would be plants, and it is not clear if the third is a plant or an animal, and it also lacks a publication year. So this is in itself inconclusive. Jell and Adrian (2002) list Brassicicephalus LOCHMAN, 1940 [pulchellus] Bonneterre Dol, Missouri, USA; PLETHOPELTIDAE; UCAM [j.s.s. of Exigua, fide ROBISON, 1988]. Another assignment is Brassicicephalus wolfensis Lochman, 1944. Dwergenpaartje 11:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I think the conclusion based on the current sources would be that Brassicicephalus Lochman, 1940 indeed needs to be moved to Exigua. This is consistent with the older authority of Exigua, being Howell, 1937. The Treatise list Exigua as "unrecognizable". If the opinion that Exigua and Brassicicephalus are synonymous holds (as in the literature from after the Treatise), the former name always takes priority, even if (but I have not found any sign this would be the case) Exigua would be a jr. homonym or synonym to some other generic name.
The Treatise on Invertebrate Paleontology, Part O., (1959), pages O298-O301, does not provide a description on Exigua, but it does on the subfamily Raymondinae and on Brassicicephalus. I always combine those by taking entire genus description and adding on the elements from the overarching taxa that miss (in this case also including the superfamily, see further down). Here are the descriptions Subfamily Raymondinae Clark, 1924 [=Pilgrimiidae HUPE, 1953) Glabella narrowly tapering to subquadrate, with 2 or 3 pairs of short lateral furrows; preglabellar field present or absent; eyes below medium size to small, anterior to center of glabella; fixigenae horizontal, with palpebral areas 0.3 to 0.75 of glabellar width, posterior areas widening or narrowing (sag.) outward; librigenae with genal spines or blunt genal angles. Thorax unknown. U.Cam., and Brassicicephalus Lochman, 1940, type= B. pulchellus. Subquadrate glabella with rounded front; preglabellar field very narrow or absent, anterior border furrow faint or obsolete; eye ridges narrow; fixigenae with palpebral areas 0.5 to 0.75 of glabellar width; librigenae, thorax and pygidium unknown (132). U.Cam.(Dresbach.) , N. Am. B. pulchellus, Missouri.
The best approach to deorphaning in my opinion would be to start one new article combining teh monotypical Superfamily Raymondinacea Clark, 1924, and Family Raymondinidae Clark, 1924, listing the subfamilies and genera: (Raymondininae Raymondina, Amquia, Llanoaspidella, Paracedaria; Cedariniinae Cedaria, Cederina; Llanoaspidinae Llanoaspis, Arcuolimbus, Genevievella, Metisaspis); and giving the (super)familial discription (to be edited, this is the description from the Treatise): Exoskeleton typically opisthoparian, elliptical, heteropygous. Facial sutures with posterior sections running beyond lateral border furrow before turning backward to cut posterior margins, extending straight outward or curving forward, with tendency to approach anterior sections with which fusion may occur; anterior sections converging, straight, or diverging widely forward; glabella tapering to quadrate, front rounded or straight, lateral furrows present or absent, preglabellar field present or absent; eye ridges and occipital spine may be present, eyes medium in size to small, position variable; fixigenae with palpebral areas variable in width, posterior areas long (tr.), commonly subrectangular to quadrate in shape; librigenae with medium to short genal spines or blunt genal angles. Thorax with 7 or fewer segments; axis narrower than blunt-ended pleurae. Pygidium transverse, ovate or semicircular, axis tapering nearly full length, narrower than pleural fields, with all furrows commonly well defined. Surface smooth or granulose. Polyphyletic derivation. U.Cam. Dwergenpaartje ( talk) 17:20, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Great! Yes I'm recommending you create an article but titled Raymondinidae, and include in the box Raymondinacea, that is make it bold and add authority to it as well, and create a redirect from Raymondinacea to Raymondinidae. And no I must have mistyped, Raymondininae is the only correct name (because it is derived from Raymondina). I own both a specimen of Cedaria and of Genevievella, but I'll have to make photo's when the sun shines. I mean, we be able to illustrate the Raymondinidae later on. Dwergenpaartje ( talk) 23:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, because too many small categories make navigation tedious for readers, and so undo the advantages of having categories, in WP:PLANTS we tend to look for a category size of 10 or more (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Categorization). So I would have left the Caltha articles at the upper level, but it's a marginal case. You should be aware, though, that there are some long-time Wikipedia editors who will delete small categories. Peter coxhead ( talk) 18:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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Including a key in an article, as at Caltha, has been queried in the past on copyright grounds (I can't find where just now, but will try to do so). The issues are these:
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Apologies for "eavesdropping", but some relevant prior (albeit brief) discussion on the inclusion of keys is here. Additionally, I'm of the opinion that keys should largely not be included in this encyclopedia per WP:NOTGUIDE: While keys are often found in field guides, technical manuals, and primary literature, Wikipedia is none of the above, and the construction of keys engender the risks of OR or SYN. I believe the novel arrangement of verifiable data that leads the reader to a conclusion not explicit in any published source, is original synthesis, and keys of any sort may arguably be more instructional rather merely informational. (from NOTGUIDE: The purpose of Wikipedia is to present facts, not to teach subject matter) Identification keys may be more suitable for Wikibooks, where textbooks, instructional material, and original research is explicitly allowed. --Animalparty! ( talk) 03:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
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Re this - I did not find a copy of The ordovician crinoid genus Caleidocrinus Waagen and Jahn, 1899, but A revised macroevolutionary history for Ordovician-Early Silurian crinoids lists it as a reference. -- Jreferee ( talk) 23:29, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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Neelix, I note you added a "genera belonging to the Ptychopariida" infobox to Yunnanocephalus, and probably to other Ptychopariid genera as well. You have every right to do so, but I do have doubts about its usefulness, as the number of Ptychopariid genera is so staggeringly big, that anybody will lose its way. It also becomes extreme bulky and may easily utterly dominate articles. I realise you included only a few genera so far, but I suppose you intend to expand as you add it to articles. In general, I would say infoboxes for genera per family are of more use, but not in the case of monotypical families like the Yunnanocephalidae, in which case the genus and family articles are merged and a "families belonging to the Ptychopariida" infobox could be useful. - Dwergenpaartje 16:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Ah. I see. I guess preventing an orphan is not the best argumentation to have an infobox at all. I had a look at Brassicicephalus, and I think it is lacking much information and it is flawed as well (the monotypicallity). Dunno if you feel any need to improve it. If you would tell me you mailaddress, I will send you the information that is in the Treatise (already made the excerpt). My mailaddress is "jachthuis22 at kpnmail dot nl". If you think it is difficult to make it into layman's language, you can have a look at Yunnanocephalus, Angelina, Conocoryphe, Eoredlichia or many other pages, how I do it. Dwergenpaartje 10:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
I found another source from 1988 that is useful, and it seems to concur that Brassicicephalus is not monotypic, and also says it needs to be suppressed because it is the jr. synonym of Exigua, quite the other way around as in Sepkoski (which I could not check as the link did not work). Perhaps Exigua is unavailabe. Global Names Index on this and and the next page provides multiple generic authors, but according to the notation, the first two would be plants, and it is not clear if the third is a plant or an animal, and it also lacks a publication year. So this is in itself inconclusive. Jell and Adrian (2002) list Brassicicephalus LOCHMAN, 1940 [pulchellus] Bonneterre Dol, Missouri, USA; PLETHOPELTIDAE; UCAM [j.s.s. of Exigua, fide ROBISON, 1988]. Another assignment is Brassicicephalus wolfensis Lochman, 1944. Dwergenpaartje 11:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I think the conclusion based on the current sources would be that Brassicicephalus Lochman, 1940 indeed needs to be moved to Exigua. This is consistent with the older authority of Exigua, being Howell, 1937. The Treatise list Exigua as "unrecognizable". If the opinion that Exigua and Brassicicephalus are synonymous holds (as in the literature from after the Treatise), the former name always takes priority, even if (but I have not found any sign this would be the case) Exigua would be a jr. homonym or synonym to some other generic name.
The Treatise on Invertebrate Paleontology, Part O., (1959), pages O298-O301, does not provide a description on Exigua, but it does on the subfamily Raymondinae and on Brassicicephalus. I always combine those by taking entire genus description and adding on the elements from the overarching taxa that miss (in this case also including the superfamily, see further down). Here are the descriptions Subfamily Raymondinae Clark, 1924 [=Pilgrimiidae HUPE, 1953) Glabella narrowly tapering to subquadrate, with 2 or 3 pairs of short lateral furrows; preglabellar field present or absent; eyes below medium size to small, anterior to center of glabella; fixigenae horizontal, with palpebral areas 0.3 to 0.75 of glabellar width, posterior areas widening or narrowing (sag.) outward; librigenae with genal spines or blunt genal angles. Thorax unknown. U.Cam., and Brassicicephalus Lochman, 1940, type= B. pulchellus. Subquadrate glabella with rounded front; preglabellar field very narrow or absent, anterior border furrow faint or obsolete; eye ridges narrow; fixigenae with palpebral areas 0.5 to 0.75 of glabellar width; librigenae, thorax and pygidium unknown (132). U.Cam.(Dresbach.) , N. Am. B. pulchellus, Missouri.
The best approach to deorphaning in my opinion would be to start one new article combining teh monotypical Superfamily Raymondinacea Clark, 1924, and Family Raymondinidae Clark, 1924, listing the subfamilies and genera: (Raymondininae Raymondina, Amquia, Llanoaspidella, Paracedaria; Cedariniinae Cedaria, Cederina; Llanoaspidinae Llanoaspis, Arcuolimbus, Genevievella, Metisaspis); and giving the (super)familial discription (to be edited, this is the description from the Treatise): Exoskeleton typically opisthoparian, elliptical, heteropygous. Facial sutures with posterior sections running beyond lateral border furrow before turning backward to cut posterior margins, extending straight outward or curving forward, with tendency to approach anterior sections with which fusion may occur; anterior sections converging, straight, or diverging widely forward; glabella tapering to quadrate, front rounded or straight, lateral furrows present or absent, preglabellar field present or absent; eye ridges and occipital spine may be present, eyes medium in size to small, position variable; fixigenae with palpebral areas variable in width, posterior areas long (tr.), commonly subrectangular to quadrate in shape; librigenae with medium to short genal spines or blunt genal angles. Thorax with 7 or fewer segments; axis narrower than blunt-ended pleurae. Pygidium transverse, ovate or semicircular, axis tapering nearly full length, narrower than pleural fields, with all furrows commonly well defined. Surface smooth or granulose. Polyphyletic derivation. U.Cam. Dwergenpaartje ( talk) 17:20, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Great! Yes I'm recommending you create an article but titled Raymondinidae, and include in the box Raymondinacea, that is make it bold and add authority to it as well, and create a redirect from Raymondinacea to Raymondinidae. And no I must have mistyped, Raymondininae is the only correct name (because it is derived from Raymondina). I own both a specimen of Cedaria and of Genevievella, but I'll have to make photo's when the sun shines. I mean, we be able to illustrate the Raymondinidae later on. Dwergenpaartje ( talk) 23:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, because too many small categories make navigation tedious for readers, and so undo the advantages of having categories, in WP:PLANTS we tend to look for a category size of 10 or more (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Categorization). So I would have left the Caltha articles at the upper level, but it's a marginal case. You should be aware, though, that there are some long-time Wikipedia editors who will delete small categories. Peter coxhead ( talk) 18:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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Including a key in an article, as at Caltha, has been queried in the past on copyright grounds (I can't find where just now, but will try to do so). The issues are these:
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Apologies for "eavesdropping", but some relevant prior (albeit brief) discussion on the inclusion of keys is here. Additionally, I'm of the opinion that keys should largely not be included in this encyclopedia per WP:NOTGUIDE: While keys are often found in field guides, technical manuals, and primary literature, Wikipedia is none of the above, and the construction of keys engender the risks of OR or SYN. I believe the novel arrangement of verifiable data that leads the reader to a conclusion not explicit in any published source, is original synthesis, and keys of any sort may arguably be more instructional rather merely informational. (from NOTGUIDE: The purpose of Wikipedia is to present facts, not to teach subject matter) Identification keys may be more suitable for Wikibooks, where textbooks, instructional material, and original research is explicitly allowed. --Animalparty! ( talk) 03:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
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