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17:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
If you could take a look at MediaWiki_talk:Sitesupport#Wikimedia, I've posted a {{ editprotected}} there which would change "Wikipedia" to "Wikimedia". Your input would be appreciated. Thanks, Legoktm ( talk) 06:02, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. This is just a quick note to say that you may be interested in having a look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikissentials Your name was listed as one of the users that was interested in another proposal similar to this. Regards ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 20:21, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
David You are most welcome to call us to explain your stance on Train2Game - however, why you belittle TIGA, get the operator incorrect, remove links to places like City & Guilds, Microsoft etc is beyond us. We have lodged comment on the main contact area. Eric Swan — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanPR ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
We have forwarded everything to the Foundation — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanPR ( talk • contribs) 12:38, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Dear Sir/Madam We have reviewed numerous comments re Train2Game.
(cur | prev) 01:52, 27 January 2013 Qworty (talk | contribs) . . (4,872 bytes) (-603) . . (→Courses: rm unsourced promotional material) (cur | prev) 19:05, 26 January 2013 Pinkbeast (talk | contribs) . . (5,475 bytes) (+44) . . (ref does say that they advise on the content.) (cur | prev) 17:27, 26 January 2013 Deskana (talk | contribs) m . . (5,431 bytes) (+1) . . (fix again...) (cur | prev) 17:26, 26 January 2013 Deskana (talk | contribs) m . . (5,430 bytes) (+7) . . (Fix) (cur | prev) 17:25, 26 January 2013 Deskana (talk | contribs) . . (5,423 bytes) (+43) . . (Fix. The source does not say TIGA "operates" Train2Game, merely that they are partly responsible for it and offer a diploma for completing it.) (cur | prev) 13:27, 21 January 2013 David Gerard (talk | contribs) . . (5,309 bytes) (+1,227) . . (skillstrain is in fact the same company as train2game) (cur | prev) 13:20, 21 January 2013 Pinkbeast (talk | contribs) . . (4,082 bytes) (-1,185) . . (Undid revision 534159003 by Pinkbeast (talk) - er actually that was stupid of me.) Above there are a number of claims and counter claims.
We have been contacted by a number of listeners who are also Train2Game students. Therefore, taking just just a few examples and thereby raising questions; 1. As WikiPedia claims to support education, why have the Train2Game courses been removed? 2. A user has made various claims about the ownership of train2game and yet in the first paragraph the article states there are two within Train2game. Therefor how can SkillsTrain be written as a reason for an edit? 3 Again, as Wiki is very supportive of students and education, why was the achievement of the students gaining a Guineas World Record removed? 4. More recently a ref to jobs was removed. The link does ref jobs for a leading job agency and also games news - I cannot see blatant PR on the link site so why was it removed? 5. The Wiki Foundation stats, in an email forwarded to RTI, the UK Chapter is responsible for content. Therefore, who is the person responsible for both content and should the case arise remove inappropriate members of the UK Chapter? 6. It is widely acknowledged that today many companies do not place all accreditation and or operational practices on their web site so it is impossible to ref them with 100% certainty, therefore when did you speak to TIGA, Train2Game, SkillsTrain, City and Guilds, Microsoft, Guinness Book of World records?
Statement of policy. RTI is regulated by the UK Broadcast body OFCOM. Any person or company that feels a broadcast unfairly depicts a person or company has the right to complain to OFCOM for any wrong doings - RTI complies with this policy.
Awaiting your replies Regards RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.112.79.171 ( talk) 20:06, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Dear David
Please don't think I am a PR company - RTI is not.
Why did you delete the entire thread - should I get someone to come over to the British library to ask you? Happy to get a contributor to come over if that is easier for you, which would you prefer?
Also we are still awaiting your answers to the questions posed, please? They are all there in the history.
Regards RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.112.79.171 ( talk) 21:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
David there are many entries on then internet for RTI, just Google it. We test reaction in many ways as will any bonifide journalists.
Now there are questions above we are awaiting replies to for a show. We prefer to give both sides the chance to comment. The listeners have advised of there views, now you have the opportunity to share your views before the show. If you chose not to that is your call and if you do that we will happily say you chose not to answer. Regards RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.112.79.171 ( talk) 21:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Sir It does indicate that you should also read the stance of Wikipedia, to assist here is a quote from the WP page on radio broadcasting, "Radio broadcasting is a one-way wireless transmission over radio waves intended to reach a wide audience. Stations can be linked in radio networks to broadcast a common radio format, either in broadcast syndication or simulcast or both. Audio broadcasting also can be done via cable radio, local wire television networks, satellite radio, and internet radio via streaming media on the Internet." I have not visited the Radio Tatras International before this message. However, I have now visited it and it very clear that others also believe they are above Wikipedia's own stance. Also to gain a "ref" would mean visiting the RTI web site. That would clearly show the station has a stream plus many other services including terrestrial outlets. It is a shame that a dynamic and very commendable idea of a free reference service seems to have lost its way. Never mind, thank you for your public statements. You are most welcome to make contact via studio@rti.fm , like the majority of bonafide broadcast researchers we use the station name. All that stated, if you do not wish to answer the question submitted to you simply reply stating you do not wish to reply. Thanks RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.42.254 ( talk) 10:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Just out of interest, when you visited the RTI site did you not have your speakers turned on? Had you had sound on you would have heard the automatic stream - funny that. Enjoy the rest of the day RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.42.254 ( talk) 15:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
PS David I'll share, with respect, why five years in a PR position is still considered by many to still be starting out. However, not today. Today I need to contact the main WP Press Office, cheers all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.42.254 ( talk) 16:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi David, the search/replace algorithm you're using for this replacement is too broad. I can understand your change of Magnús Magnússon to Magnus Magnusson in links to articles about the television presenter, but I don't think converting his name to the non-diacritic versions is appropriate for other people with that name, like Magnús Magnússon (strongman). See your edit to List of Icelanders. Graham 87 16:21, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Request initiated for the article Alternative medicine to be moved to Complementary and alternative medicine. I'm notifying you as major contributor to the article. Relevant talk page discussion found here. FiachraByrne ( talk) 03:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
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You prodded this article Sorcha Faal, and some editor deprodded it. Can you let me know if you take it to AfD? Not canvassing, it's a request to be kept informed per Wikipedia:CANVASS#Appropriate_notification Note that it was previously at a train wreck of an AfD Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sorcha_Faal, IRWolfie- ( talk) 23:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the Sorcha Faal entry from the deletion process as it is in clear violation of Wikipedia:Deletion policy that states: Once there is an objection or a deletion discussion, a page may not be proposed for deletion again. As I posted on the Talk Page for this entry, a August 2012 deletion discussion took place wherein the editor determined that he could see no clear consensus to delete. Kmt885 ( talk) 12:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
The Wikimedia UK AGM will be held in June, and nominations for the UK Wikimedian of the Year are currently open. If there is someone who you feel has made an important contribution to the UK Wikimedia movement in the last year please go ahead and nominate them here by 09:00 (BST) on Monday 20th May at the latest. Richard Nevell (WMUK) ( talk) 12:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Since you're in it, I'm curious what you thought of Andy Greenberg's book. Viriditas ( talk) 22:24, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
David, did you actually read his paper? I did and the quote used in the article is only part of what he concluded. My rewrite (which was written fine thank you very much, that was a rude and unnecessary comment) was a more complete summary of his conclusions. The way it is written now does not mention his critique of the previous systematic review and I think that's an important part to mention. The randomized controlled trials part can stay out since there is another part that mentions that anyway.
TylerDurden8823 (
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15:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
Could you by any chance add some sources to Bridge Publications (UK)? I thought of PRODding it, but thought that if you wrote it then it's probably not a hoax or completely non-notable.
Thanks. -- Amir E. Aharoni ( talk) 02:41, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi David. Sam Whitmore is sort of like a media analyst for PR agencies and I saw this tweet conversation which started with him asking Jason from the WMF PR department to discuss PRs on Wikipedia. I mentioned you may be the right person for him to talk to, since WMF is not involved in editorial and it might be better to get a "community spokesperson." CorporateM ( Talk) 01:04, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Re: your userpage recipe, I can't resist the urge to point you towards this by Toothpaste for Dinner, in case you haven't seen it already. ;) – Quiddity ( talk) 04:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
london, we have a small problem then, interested? sats 16:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi David Gerard,
I found your name in the Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy and want to get rid of a question.
Pichilemu is a city and commune in Chile and has 749.1 km2 (289.2 sq mi) and a population (2012) of 12,866 with a density of 17.18/km2 (44.5/sq mi).
The creator of the pages, User:Diego Grez aka User:Lester Foster aka MisterWiki, has accumulated approx. 450 articles or better "pages" (55 people-pages, 24 populated places-pages, 369 Pichilemu portal on this day-pages, etc), 27 Categories, two templates and a portal about Pichilemu.
He self is included in the English Wikipedia as Diego Grez, with following categories:
Template:Villages in Pichilemu
It is undisputable that some of the pages belong to the WP, like Pichilemu (a good article). Other articles like Portal:Pichilemu/On_this_day/April_4 are not needed.
I think that one after another would take a lot of time and work, but a bulk delete would be inappropiate because there could be more than 2 or 3 valuable pages.
What do you think should be the correct approach to this issue?.
I would understand if you don't care about the issue. Please answer in this page. Any way, thanks. --Best regards, Keysanger ( what?) 22:48, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi David. I was just reading the
thread at the village pump and read your quote "there are people claiming that years and months and weeks and days of talking about it, weeks of watchlist/recent changes notices and a banner on literally every logged-in page in article space constitutes not informing people"
and had to agree. This quote need to be etched in stone and placed at the front door of Wikipedia. If I were wealthy, I'd certainly give you a prize for quote of the year. Did I mention I liked that quote? All the best.
64.40.54.163 (
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02:06, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello! Sorry to bother you friendly admin, but a few years back you edited the Fields of the Nephilim page, and I was looking for help with a problem. Seems an IP is eager to revert, revert, revert, but hasn't yet realized there's a talk page or an edit description line ( Talk:Fields_of_the_Nephilim#Edits_reverts). It's getting to the point of vandalism, and while I'd rather end the edit war before it gets worse, I'm not really sure how to handle it from here :( TheFlowerpotMen ( talk) 07:19, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
I couldn't understand why you've reverted my edit on
Bizarre Love Triangle.
Template:Infobox song clearly states that only
Template:Infobox single should be used for songs that have been released as a single. I'll be glad to hear your rationale. Thank you.
Myxomatosis57 (
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09:47, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey David Gerard
We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:
Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 10:19, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey David Gerard! Another set of patches :). Today we have:
More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 13:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi David! Thank you for this edit, but I think it's still important, for the sake of our readers, that we strive to sum up what Sutherland said about the "Primary respiratory mechanism" and how the subordinate "five ideas" add up to a whole. I know it would be impossible to impose clarity and consistency where these do not exist, but I don't know whether they do or not. I simply don't have the information necessary to improve it myself, but I feel that most of our readers would look briefly at the article and draw very little from it other than the idea that CST may or may not be "quackery", depending upon which "expert" you listen to. I think our most important improvement to the article would be to clearly outline what CST is, including what ailment(s) it purports to treat, what treatment mechanisms are employed during a treatment session, and how key terms are defined (since terms like "craniosacral" and "primary respiratory mechanism" seem to have counter-intuitive meanings in the CST world). I'm still having some difficulty understanding some of the key concepts of CST, but maybe you're having better luck finding sources to elucidate the topic. Wilhelm Meis ( ☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 05:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey David Gerard; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:
There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 08:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I have made a proposal at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Fork the wiki in which I used a diff authored by you as an example. Yngvadottir ( talk) 20:46, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your bug reports. "Wings" are on the backlog, having been categorized as an enhancement. As for the cornetto, I couldn't find a free image quickly. Maybe one day I'll photograph one for commons and then you can look forward to Pony++ 2.0.... Oh, BTW your "painful" posting seems to be truncated. - Pointillist ( talk) 09:50, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk%3ANeuro-linguistic_programming&diff=564873961&oldid=564856461
Why do you ignore breaches of WP policy from editors you agree with? WykiP ( talk) 13:19, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey David Gerard. The newest updates:
Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 22:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Org. Since you had some involvement with the org redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Widefox; talk 13:14, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Did you notice this discussion? A followup is there. Incnis Mrsi ( talk) 08:01, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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I appreciate your review of my recent edits to the New Relic Wiki article. I do try to keep my writing in a neutral POV but looks like I didn't succeed this time. I just took another crack at making it more neutral. Would you mind taking a look at my edits? If they indeed have succeeded in achieving a neutral POV, would you mind removing the advert tag? If it's still not where it should be, I would appreciate any guidance you have. Thanks again for your help on this! JNorman704 ( talk) 21:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
That was not a minor edit ...Plese apolozise -- Joijoi89 ( talk) 23:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Homeopathy&diff=569492925&oldid=569492160
Hi David, I'm afraid I've just reverted your addition of an external link to the James Boswell article as it's not the same person; the website you've inserted the link to is for James Boswell (1906-1971) but the article is for James Boswell (1740-1795). The one I think you were looking for is James Boswell (artist)? Sorry about that! SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:22, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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This was a poor use of admin privileges. The initial move was evidently controversial, so it should be requested at WP:RM. St Anselm ( talk) 13:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
I applaud your move. So does Slate: Wikipedia Beats Major News Organizations, Perfectly Reflects Chelsea Manning’s New Gender Liz Let's Talk 20:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
When used correctly though, these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes. Trouble arises when legitimate comparisons, either by analogy with existing or non-existing article kinds, are disregarded without thought or consideration of the Wikipedia:Five pillars.
Hi, I asked a question of you here. I'd be grateful if you could post a diff and put end to the matter. Thanks, -- RA ( ✍) 21:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
We've written one. Talk:Chelsea_Manning#Supplementary_.21vote_rationale. @ Rannpháirtí anaithnid: @ Tariqabjotu: Comment section under it - David Gerard ( talk) 15:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I've opened an informal discussion relating to concerns with your conduct:
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:AN#Manning_incident:_sanctions.2Factions_against_parties.3F
Regards, -- RA ( ✍) 09:20, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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David,
I looks like you pasted information into the thread with diff that you may not have intended. I've removed removed it through an edit. You may want to redact it.
-- RA ( ✍) 12:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
David:
Thanks for the fixes on IBM Lotus Symphony. I noticed the errors (e.g. "sponsored to") and staleness but didn't have the time at the time to research the matter.
Your work is much appreciated, Madman ( talk) 16:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Ever try substituting Lillet Blanc for the dry vermouth? Now that's a fine drink. Joefromrandb ( talk) 18:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi David,
Could you please explain your recent revert at WP:MOS? The editor whose edit you reinstated said: "I am completely wrong and have made a mistake, I thought the revision was broader than it was. Is it safe for me to re-revert my change, or would that cause trouble?" [6]. GabrielF ( talk) 07:16, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if you intended to alter the guideline, but you removed the passage during debate. Fortunately, I recovered the passage. -- George Ho ( talk) 16:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
David, let be be perfectly honest and I mean this in the least threatening tone possible, but I am considering filing an Arbcom case over the move and specifically your use of admin tools (and also the behaviors of others). The community has been unable to solve this on administrative noticeboards so I wanted to reach out to you and see if this can be solved here before we have to go through the nightmare ahead. In retrospect and given the close of the move discussion, do you see how the issue, although very well intentioned, was actually controversial? If so, do you still think your actions were correct or would a move discussion have been better? Do you think a move discussion would've resulted in the name being changed to Chelsea sooner rather than in 30 days? I saw the comment you just posted on the talk page about how her being a convicted criminal doesn't change how we should treat her self identification. I found your words to be reasonable and level headed and that inspired me to try to talk to you about this. Thanks.--v/r - T P 14:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
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A beer on me! | |
As an editor, I don't think we're able to find middle ground here. As a person, I think you've probably had a rough week and you need this beer. I still disagree, but I'm empathetic to the stress this whole this has been. v/r - T P 15:36, 31 August 2013 (UTC) |
You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Chelsea Manning and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—
Thanks, — ΛΧΣ 21 23:25, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I also think the decision was clearly wrong in regard to policy and disastrous in regard to the overall treatment of transgendered individuals. What do you think in regard to the way forward (eg. a possible move review or a new discussion at some point)? At the time of the recent move the media already predominantly used Chelsea [7], but I'm concerned about a precedent that would make such moves of transgendered people's articles dependent on the amount of press coverage, a situation apparently only applying to transgendered people. I also find it unlikely that all those editors coming to oppose using her current name will not be there eg. in 30 days. Josh Gorand ( talk) 16:02, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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The BLP Barnstar | |
For going above and beyond what most administrators would have done, and being willing to go against the majority in the interest of protecting our BLP subjects, please accept this Barnstar. The Wordsmith Talk to me 01:19, 2 September 2013 (UTC) |
Just wondering what brand of Ale you enjoy because that ain't no Martini mate. Thanks for the reply to my comment. 208.54.40.134 ( talk) 09:45, 4 September 2013 (UTC) Cheers!!!
What brand may I inquire? If you get the chance try some Knob Creek Bourbon on the rocks and sip on it. Hmmm! 208.54.40.134 ( talk) 09:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.
Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page ( bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.
A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed ( 48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".
In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>
) (
bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in
bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (
bug 53507).
Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).
If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:43, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the dirtywork on this. I'm surprised that you didn't know about this insane hypersensitivity to updating links to avoid redirects. While it's probably true that it's not worth doing that in most cases (not worth editors' time, not worth cluttering up edit histories) to do this in most cases, it is certainly true that, once an editor has (wisely or unwisely) changed a link to avoid the redirect, it's utterly stupid to invest more time changing it back. But some people are happy to follow rules right off the edge of a cliff. Thanks again. EEng ( talk) 22:09, 5 September 2013 (UTC) P.S. BTW, how do you like the article? I'm afraid (as you'll see on its Talk) that I had to go through some grief for it.
The Arbitration Committee has passed a temporary injunction in the case in which you are a party to. The full text of the injunction follows:
The articles " Bradley Manning", " United States v. Manning", and " Chelsea Manning gender identity media coverage" are placed under standard discretionary sanctions for the duration of the case. Unless otherwise provided for in the final decision, any sanction imposed pursuant to this injunction will automatically lapse upon the closure of the case.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee,
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Penwhale |
dance in the air and
follow his steps
23:08, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
David,
I'm preparing evidence for the Manning case and I want to be as little of a dickhead as possible. I want to demonstrate that you and Morwen are friends offline. I can do this within the bounds of admissible evidence; but it involves linking to things that would reveal emails and I don't want to do that.
So, for the sake of everybody's benefit, could you acknowledge here that (1) you and Morwen know each other offline and (2) you're friends.
That business aside, I think it would be worthwhile seeking that there be no sanctions in this case. I think NE Ent has a point when he/she opposes any more "wiki-blood-letting". I think a findings of fact are more important. As is a reconciliation between the (essentially) good faith editors involved. I'm of a mind to formally propose that to ArbCom. Would you support it?
I don't count editors who made explicit breaches of civility among that (mens rea, as you've been describing them elsewhere).
Best, -- RA ( ✍) 09:18, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
The main effect on interactions of knowing each other is that you actually remember the other person is a human; I submit that this is not a bad thing for Wikipedia editors to remember.
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David, I don't know if you got my email response. I need confirmation of consent for the five items before I can post them to the evidence page. Thanks. DPRoberts534 ( talk) 04:46, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I hope it isn't inappropriate to contact you in this way. I see that you are (and have been) somewhat active on the NLP talk page, and that you are an admin here at Wikipedia. I'm having difficulty progressing in a discussion on said talk page, due to repeated and disruptive personal attacks (from User:AnotherPseudonym), which myself and another user ( User:Snowded) have unsuccessfully attempted to stop. I am unsure of what to do and would appreciate your input. Thanks. Lex.shrapnel ( talk) 14:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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For those following my talk page: I've just nominated OpenOffice.org for GA. Uninvolved reviewers are needed. Thanks :-)
(and I realise GA generally has a shortage of reviewers, and will do some myself) - David Gerard ( talk) 13:52, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, David Gerard. Thank you for your recent submission of evidence for the Manning naming dispute Arbitration case. As you may be aware, the Arbitration Committee asks that users submitting evidence in cases adhere to limits regarding the length of their submissions. These limits, currently at 1000 words and 100 diffs for parties and 500 words and 50 diffs for all others, are in place to ensure that the Arbitration Committee receives only the most important information relevant to the case, and is able to determine an appropriate course of action in a reasonable amount of time. The evidence you have submitted currently exceeds at least one of these limits, and is presently at 1677 words and 99 diffs. Please try to reduce the length of your submission to fit within these limits; this guide may be able to provide some help in doing so. If the length of your evidence is not reduced soon, it may be refactored or removed by a human clerk within a few days. Thank you! If you have any questions or concerns regarding the case, please contact the drafting Arbitrator or case clerk (who are listed on the case pages); if you have any questions or concerns about this bot, please contact the operator. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Hersfold ArbClerkBOT( talk) 04:23, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.
As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u>
(underline), <sub>
(subscript), and <sup>
(superscript), <s>
(strikethrough) and <code>
(computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at
Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.
In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references ( bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label ( bug 51670).
In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted ( bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.
Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" ( bug 50452).
Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application ( bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.
Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate ( bug 53503).
Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter ( bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again ( bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.
If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:45, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, David. Just wanted to let you know that a new finding of fact concerning you has been proposed in the Manning arbitration proposed decision. Newyorkbrad asked that an uninvolved user notify you of this, so I'm doing so. Best, — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 04:52, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
This is a message to inform you that an finding has been proposed in regards to you in the Manning naming dispute arbitration case. You may find it useful to review the guide to arbitration. Regards, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 12:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The Anomalist is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Anomalist until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. jps ( talk) 17:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, David
I saw your hatnote/dab restoration in OpenOffice.org and after a couple of minutes I understood the point of your revert. However, there are also WP:INTDAB (especially WP:HOWTODAB) and Wikipedia:HATNOTE § Examples of improper use to consider. So, I slightly changed your edit to ensure that (1) "(disambiguation)" is seen in the link, (2) the purpose of Apache OpenOffice link is clear without being improperly attributed to having something to do with OOo and (3) the page is not flagged as needing attention.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk)
16:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
{{
Distinguish|Apache OpenOffice}}
with {{
for|similary-named Apache project|Apache OpenOffice}}
. What do you think? Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk)
17:02, 3 October 2013 (UTC)Hi David. I've added some comments to the current discussion at User talk:Jimbo Wales. There's also a (possibly interesting) current discussion on my talk page, but bear in mind that I express only my own opinions on that page. Regards, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:17, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to try and do a decent review at FAC at some point; I'd say that technically having a merge tag makes the article unstable, but it seems like something that can be reasonably be addressed one way or another. Might be a good idea to solicit comments from relevant wikiprojects to try and get some sort of ad hoc consensus on the matter? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs( talk) 23:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Thanks for your review. Indeed, the section "other references" is long. I can divide it : Geology... Best wishes. Gtaf ( talk) 19:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
As you may know,
VisualEditor ("Edit beta") is currently available on the English Wikipedia only for registered editors who choose to enable it. Since you have made 50 or more edits with VisualEditor this year, I want to make sure that you know that you can enable VisualEditor (if you haven't already done so) by going to
your preferences and choosing the item, "
MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable
". This will give you the option of using VisualEditor on articles and userpages when you want to, and give you the opportunity to spot changes in the interface and suggest improvements. We value your feedback, whether positive or negative, about using VisualEditor, at
Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you,
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20:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey David Gerard. I'm dropping you a note to let you know (or remind you) about Flow, the structured discussion system for Wikipedia that we're building. You may have heard about some of the longer-term vision for Flow in the past, but in the last two months we've been moving quickly to narrow down the short-term scope of the project, and we're keen to get feedback.
First: we've written up an explanation of the " minimum viable product" – the set of features that will be in the first, on-wiki deployment. Because discussions on Wikipedia are complex and varied, we're approaching Flow development as an incremental process of uncovering user needs for different types of discussion. The first release will be limited to a few WikiProject talkpages only, with the goal of testing out our first stab at peer-to-peer discussion functionality and improving it based on feedback from the WikiProject members who use it. If you've got any thoughts on the MVP, or on the philosophy we're trying to follow with this software, let us know on the Flow talkpage. If you know of a WikiProject that might be interested in testing this out, let Maryana know on her talkpage :)
Second: we're having a set of discussions around some experimental features we'll be trying in the first release. These include indenting and nesting of comments and comment editing. If you've got any practical thoughts on these, we'd appreciate hearing them. For background and feedback on the design, there are the ongoing set of design iteration notes, a Design FAQ, and a page for design feedback.
The software prototype is still in early development, and changing daily in small ways, with major goals updating every 2 weeks. If you've got comments about other bits of the software, we'll be holding an
IRC office hours session in #wikimedia-office at
18:00 UTC on 17 November to talk about Flow as a whole, and fielding questions on the talkpage before and after then.
Third: this is a pre-newsletter announcement of a new WP:Flow/Newsletter signup page! If you'd like further updates, details, and requests for input, please add your name there.
Thanks, Quiddity (WMF) ( talk) 19:53, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
For the Arbitration Committee, Rs chen 7754 01:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at
Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to
your preferences and choosing the item, "
MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable
".
The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption ( bug 50459).
There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected ( bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances ( bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances ( bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories ( bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias ( bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes ( bug 54712).
Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:46, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi David. I saw your comments at FAC talk. Although there are some general points there, I think your current nom has a particular problem. When I had a look to see whether to review, the page had a merge template on it. I don't think an article can be considered stable unless that is resolved, and editors will think twice about reviewing articles that may disappear. I once had a request to change an article's title during FAC, but that's a different issue which doesn't affect the content. I'm still willing to review when you can let me know the issue has been resolved (I'm no expert on software though). Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:45, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'm JD3rulo. The thing is that I'm a huge fan of Jessie J, I have made changes in her page, but other users have removed them, replying that the links I referred to don't belong to reliable sources. So I'm wondering if you could dedicate part of your time in helping me to fill some topics that are abandoned, such as Jessie J's vocal type, range and also writing updated news about her career lately. I hope you can help me, cause it seems Jessie's page has been forgotten. If you need some help to write about any article or making research, you can count on me, so this is the only thing I can give you: my friendship to make wikipedia a better and updated site. Chao, have a nice day! JD3rulo ( talk) 18:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
As a matter of principle, the remedy found against you is terrible, inappropriate, and, as such, I have appealed it here. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 21:28, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
The case itself? If you look at the voting on the proposed decision, you can see where I opposed certain findings and remedies. But if a majority of the committee supports those findings and remedies, what then? If you are on a committee like this, you have to respect that a decision has been taken, even when you disagree with it.
On the larger picture of press coverage, it is a good thing when bloggers and journalists cover arbitration cases (it very rarely happens, for obvious reasons), but there are pitfalls such as internal and external disputes spilling over both ways (from the wider internet onto Wikipedia and the other way), and inaccurate reporting by those less familiar with Wikipedia.
The Guardian article, for example, claimed that the Arbitration Committee decided which name the article should be at - a glaring error. Contacting us (or anyone with a basic knowledge of Wikipedia's arbitration system) would have enabled simple errors like that to be corrected, and the article rounded off with one of those standard 'when contacted and asked to comment, the following statement was provided'-type things. The fact that the journalist failed to do this (as far as I can tell), and made that basic error, is what I was trying to point out above.
And no, we (ArbCom) don't have any PR resources provided. Maybe we should (in high-profile cases like this), but I already said that above. Anyway, if there is more to say on this, a better place would be at the noticeboard talk page, as you might get comments from other arbitrators there as well. Carcharoth ( talk) 00:24, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The problem for ArbCom is not just that they have done a nasty thing by equating transphobic commentary with the complaints of those who oppose it. The problem is that it was such a stupid nasty thing, which is so transparently unjust of itself, even if the reader is unaware of background problems such as the apparent CoI of one of the arbs.
Be grateful that their folly was not more subtle. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:21, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
I just saw that Phil Sandifer got banned for "outing" an editor who has participated extensively in groups dedicated to outing those whose agenda they dislike, and pointing out a COI that the genuinely should have disqualified them from piling in, unlike the entirely bogus conflict brought about by knowing any trans people and not despising them. In the history of Wikipedia, I struggle to think of any decision quite this breathtakingly stupid. When did respecting someone's an article subject's clearly-expressed gender identity become thoughtcrime? I know that for some people being allowed to edit despite gross conflicts of interest is a point of principle but this has become farcical. Guy ( Help!) 21:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Re our discussion at User talk:Psychonaut/Archive 11#Y Window System, the article Y Window System was deleted via WP:PROD, then undeleted via Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#Y Window System, and has now been formally nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Y Window System. Your participation in the AfD is welcome. — Psychonaut ( talk) 11:00, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Am struggling to find sufficent indepenent verifiable references for Mr Floppy - there is a comment that " 100 000 Morrisseys" recieved airplay on John Peel's radio show (which in itself is not enough to establish notability for the song) but would assist in the main article for Mr Floppy. I appreciate your extensive knowledge of alternative Australian music for the 1980s and was wondering if you could point me to any likely sources that help to improve the article and establish its notability. Dan arndt ( talk) 01:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Interested in your opinion here. -- Stylecustom ( talk) 01:06, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.
A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Wikipedia were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.
There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:
/wiki/Foobar?veaction=edit
and /?title=Foobar&veaction=edit
both now have text links that work if triggered (
bug 48915).$wgVisualEditorParsoidForwardCookies
set to true) (
bug 44483). (Most private wikis will also need to install Parsoid and node.js, as VisualEditor requires them.)Looking ahead:
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for looking, an interesting addition to my comparison, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:38, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
"scrupulous fairness"
Thank you, experienced "fairly logical and smart" editor, for
adding precision, helping with categories and
fighting spam, and for good answers to questions in
ACE 2004 (deep breath, "scrupulous fairness, ... just because someone is annoying and difficult doesn't mean they're actually wrong in a given case.") and
ACE 2013, - you are an
awesome Wikipedian!
Six years ago, you were no. 673 of Precious, a prize of WP:QAI! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:57, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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I appreciate some of the answers you have provided on the ArbCom election questions. Varnent ( talk)( COI) 01:14, 26 November 2013 (UTC) |
Hey, thanks for your comment. Yup, unfortunately Jahia doesn't have its own page yet. Obviously the page has been deleted 5 times in the past. I have been trying to contact the admins to know if that was possible to recreate it. I don't really understand why the page could not be on Wikipedia now but that's not my call :)
Hey :)
Yeah I figured something was missing here ahah. To be honnest, I am a bit surprised that Jahia can't have a page and others with coverage from their own websites can. It's usually against the Wikipedia's rules so I was surprised when I checked the list of CMS yesterday. (Some even have an advertisement banner on their page which is completely against the rules and should be rewritten completely)
I did a bit of research though and that's what I found about Jahia's coverage:
CMS Wire, and here. A study from KSU, study from IDC, study from 451, from Ars Logica and an article from CNET. An article from W3 Reports for the CMS Expo. JAVA CMS roundup from a blog.
Vulnerability report from Secunia.
I thought it would be a good start. They also have a French and a Russian page. I do not want to whine about it but I find a bit unfair that they are the only ones not having a page on Wikipedia EN. Especially since they have a page on two other wikipedia.
Just my 2 cents :)
Puda ( talk) 15:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
If you have any about this, I'd very much like to hear them. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 18:33, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Carrière des Nerviens Regional Nature Reserve is now a Good article. Thank you very much for your help. Christian COGNEAUX alias Gtaf ( talk) 19:49, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
The conversation at Talk:Australia_national_association_football_team#Suggested_move_discussion_.232 may be of potential interest to you.-- LauraHale ( talk) 21:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rktect. Dougweller ( talk) 21:56, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.
There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:
?veaction=edit
to the end of the page name. For example, change
/info/en/?search=Special:Random
to
/info/en/?search=Special:Random?veaction=edit
to open a random page in VisualEditor. This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 20:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello David, some time ago (August 2013) you tagged the Apache Marmotta article with no references. I recently reviewed the article and added more references and I would like to check with you if it is safe now to remove the tag. I also looked for and integrated non-primary sources, such as online pages:
and books:
an ongoing open source development used to demonstrate the concepts of semantic lifting and interlinking of media resources
I am not sure if the Apache Software Foundation counts as a primary or secondary source (as the foundation is not directly involved in defining the scope, nor in developing the software).
Thanks for your feedback and happy holidays. Devbug ( talk) 10:17, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Just thought you might be interested in knowing that the top vote getter in the ArbCom election is a long and valued member of Wikipediocracy. Cheers! Cla68 ( talk) 09:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I'm just letting you know I responded to your comment here. OwenVersteeg ( talk) 16:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
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If you could take a look at MediaWiki_talk:Sitesupport#Wikimedia, I've posted a {{ editprotected}} there which would change "Wikipedia" to "Wikimedia". Your input would be appreciated. Thanks, Legoktm ( talk) 06:02, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. This is just a quick note to say that you may be interested in having a look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikissentials Your name was listed as one of the users that was interested in another proposal similar to this. Regards ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 20:21, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
David You are most welcome to call us to explain your stance on Train2Game - however, why you belittle TIGA, get the operator incorrect, remove links to places like City & Guilds, Microsoft etc is beyond us. We have lodged comment on the main contact area. Eric Swan — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanPR ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
We have forwarded everything to the Foundation — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanPR ( talk • contribs) 12:38, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Dear Sir/Madam We have reviewed numerous comments re Train2Game.
(cur | prev) 01:52, 27 January 2013 Qworty (talk | contribs) . . (4,872 bytes) (-603) . . (→Courses: rm unsourced promotional material) (cur | prev) 19:05, 26 January 2013 Pinkbeast (talk | contribs) . . (5,475 bytes) (+44) . . (ref does say that they advise on the content.) (cur | prev) 17:27, 26 January 2013 Deskana (talk | contribs) m . . (5,431 bytes) (+1) . . (fix again...) (cur | prev) 17:26, 26 January 2013 Deskana (talk | contribs) m . . (5,430 bytes) (+7) . . (Fix) (cur | prev) 17:25, 26 January 2013 Deskana (talk | contribs) . . (5,423 bytes) (+43) . . (Fix. The source does not say TIGA "operates" Train2Game, merely that they are partly responsible for it and offer a diploma for completing it.) (cur | prev) 13:27, 21 January 2013 David Gerard (talk | contribs) . . (5,309 bytes) (+1,227) . . (skillstrain is in fact the same company as train2game) (cur | prev) 13:20, 21 January 2013 Pinkbeast (talk | contribs) . . (4,082 bytes) (-1,185) . . (Undid revision 534159003 by Pinkbeast (talk) - er actually that was stupid of me.) Above there are a number of claims and counter claims.
We have been contacted by a number of listeners who are also Train2Game students. Therefore, taking just just a few examples and thereby raising questions; 1. As WikiPedia claims to support education, why have the Train2Game courses been removed? 2. A user has made various claims about the ownership of train2game and yet in the first paragraph the article states there are two within Train2game. Therefor how can SkillsTrain be written as a reason for an edit? 3 Again, as Wiki is very supportive of students and education, why was the achievement of the students gaining a Guineas World Record removed? 4. More recently a ref to jobs was removed. The link does ref jobs for a leading job agency and also games news - I cannot see blatant PR on the link site so why was it removed? 5. The Wiki Foundation stats, in an email forwarded to RTI, the UK Chapter is responsible for content. Therefore, who is the person responsible for both content and should the case arise remove inappropriate members of the UK Chapter? 6. It is widely acknowledged that today many companies do not place all accreditation and or operational practices on their web site so it is impossible to ref them with 100% certainty, therefore when did you speak to TIGA, Train2Game, SkillsTrain, City and Guilds, Microsoft, Guinness Book of World records?
Statement of policy. RTI is regulated by the UK Broadcast body OFCOM. Any person or company that feels a broadcast unfairly depicts a person or company has the right to complain to OFCOM for any wrong doings - RTI complies with this policy.
Awaiting your replies Regards RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.112.79.171 ( talk) 20:06, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Dear David
Please don't think I am a PR company - RTI is not.
Why did you delete the entire thread - should I get someone to come over to the British library to ask you? Happy to get a contributor to come over if that is easier for you, which would you prefer?
Also we are still awaiting your answers to the questions posed, please? They are all there in the history.
Regards RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.112.79.171 ( talk) 21:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
David there are many entries on then internet for RTI, just Google it. We test reaction in many ways as will any bonifide journalists.
Now there are questions above we are awaiting replies to for a show. We prefer to give both sides the chance to comment. The listeners have advised of there views, now you have the opportunity to share your views before the show. If you chose not to that is your call and if you do that we will happily say you chose not to answer. Regards RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.112.79.171 ( talk) 21:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Sir It does indicate that you should also read the stance of Wikipedia, to assist here is a quote from the WP page on radio broadcasting, "Radio broadcasting is a one-way wireless transmission over radio waves intended to reach a wide audience. Stations can be linked in radio networks to broadcast a common radio format, either in broadcast syndication or simulcast or both. Audio broadcasting also can be done via cable radio, local wire television networks, satellite radio, and internet radio via streaming media on the Internet." I have not visited the Radio Tatras International before this message. However, I have now visited it and it very clear that others also believe they are above Wikipedia's own stance. Also to gain a "ref" would mean visiting the RTI web site. That would clearly show the station has a stream plus many other services including terrestrial outlets. It is a shame that a dynamic and very commendable idea of a free reference service seems to have lost its way. Never mind, thank you for your public statements. You are most welcome to make contact via studio@rti.fm , like the majority of bonafide broadcast researchers we use the station name. All that stated, if you do not wish to answer the question submitted to you simply reply stating you do not wish to reply. Thanks RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.42.254 ( talk) 10:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Just out of interest, when you visited the RTI site did you not have your speakers turned on? Had you had sound on you would have heard the automatic stream - funny that. Enjoy the rest of the day RTI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.42.254 ( talk) 15:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
PS David I'll share, with respect, why five years in a PR position is still considered by many to still be starting out. However, not today. Today I need to contact the main WP Press Office, cheers all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.42.254 ( talk) 16:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi David, the search/replace algorithm you're using for this replacement is too broad. I can understand your change of Magnús Magnússon to Magnus Magnusson in links to articles about the television presenter, but I don't think converting his name to the non-diacritic versions is appropriate for other people with that name, like Magnús Magnússon (strongman). See your edit to List of Icelanders. Graham 87 16:21, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Request initiated for the article Alternative medicine to be moved to Complementary and alternative medicine. I'm notifying you as major contributor to the article. Relevant talk page discussion found here. FiachraByrne ( talk) 03:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
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You prodded this article Sorcha Faal, and some editor deprodded it. Can you let me know if you take it to AfD? Not canvassing, it's a request to be kept informed per Wikipedia:CANVASS#Appropriate_notification Note that it was previously at a train wreck of an AfD Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sorcha_Faal, IRWolfie- ( talk) 23:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the Sorcha Faal entry from the deletion process as it is in clear violation of Wikipedia:Deletion policy that states: Once there is an objection or a deletion discussion, a page may not be proposed for deletion again. As I posted on the Talk Page for this entry, a August 2012 deletion discussion took place wherein the editor determined that he could see no clear consensus to delete. Kmt885 ( talk) 12:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
The Wikimedia UK AGM will be held in June, and nominations for the UK Wikimedian of the Year are currently open. If there is someone who you feel has made an important contribution to the UK Wikimedia movement in the last year please go ahead and nominate them here by 09:00 (BST) on Monday 20th May at the latest. Richard Nevell (WMUK) ( talk) 12:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Since you're in it, I'm curious what you thought of Andy Greenberg's book. Viriditas ( talk) 22:24, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
David, did you actually read his paper? I did and the quote used in the article is only part of what he concluded. My rewrite (which was written fine thank you very much, that was a rude and unnecessary comment) was a more complete summary of his conclusions. The way it is written now does not mention his critique of the previous systematic review and I think that's an important part to mention. The randomized controlled trials part can stay out since there is another part that mentions that anyway.
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Hi,
Could you by any chance add some sources to Bridge Publications (UK)? I thought of PRODding it, but thought that if you wrote it then it's probably not a hoax or completely non-notable.
Thanks. -- Amir E. Aharoni ( talk) 02:41, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi David. Sam Whitmore is sort of like a media analyst for PR agencies and I saw this tweet conversation which started with him asking Jason from the WMF PR department to discuss PRs on Wikipedia. I mentioned you may be the right person for him to talk to, since WMF is not involved in editorial and it might be better to get a "community spokesperson." CorporateM ( Talk) 01:04, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Re: your userpage recipe, I can't resist the urge to point you towards this by Toothpaste for Dinner, in case you haven't seen it already. ;) – Quiddity ( talk) 04:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
london, we have a small problem then, interested? sats 16:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi David Gerard,
I found your name in the Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy and want to get rid of a question.
Pichilemu is a city and commune in Chile and has 749.1 km2 (289.2 sq mi) and a population (2012) of 12,866 with a density of 17.18/km2 (44.5/sq mi).
The creator of the pages, User:Diego Grez aka User:Lester Foster aka MisterWiki, has accumulated approx. 450 articles or better "pages" (55 people-pages, 24 populated places-pages, 369 Pichilemu portal on this day-pages, etc), 27 Categories, two templates and a portal about Pichilemu.
He self is included in the English Wikipedia as Diego Grez, with following categories:
Template:Villages in Pichilemu
It is undisputable that some of the pages belong to the WP, like Pichilemu (a good article). Other articles like Portal:Pichilemu/On_this_day/April_4 are not needed.
I think that one after another would take a lot of time and work, but a bulk delete would be inappropiate because there could be more than 2 or 3 valuable pages.
What do you think should be the correct approach to this issue?.
I would understand if you don't care about the issue. Please answer in this page. Any way, thanks. --Best regards, Keysanger ( what?) 22:48, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi David. I was just reading the
thread at the village pump and read your quote "there are people claiming that years and months and weeks and days of talking about it, weeks of watchlist/recent changes notices and a banner on literally every logged-in page in article space constitutes not informing people"
and had to agree. This quote need to be etched in stone and placed at the front door of Wikipedia. If I were wealthy, I'd certainly give you a prize for quote of the year. Did I mention I liked that quote? All the best.
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Hello! Sorry to bother you friendly admin, but a few years back you edited the Fields of the Nephilim page, and I was looking for help with a problem. Seems an IP is eager to revert, revert, revert, but hasn't yet realized there's a talk page or an edit description line ( Talk:Fields_of_the_Nephilim#Edits_reverts). It's getting to the point of vandalism, and while I'd rather end the edit war before it gets worse, I'm not really sure how to handle it from here :( TheFlowerpotMen ( talk) 07:19, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
I couldn't understand why you've reverted my edit on
Bizarre Love Triangle.
Template:Infobox song clearly states that only
Template:Infobox single should be used for songs that have been released as a single. I'll be glad to hear your rationale. Thank you.
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Hey David Gerard
We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:
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Hey David Gerard! Another set of patches :). Today we have:
More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 13:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi David! Thank you for this edit, but I think it's still important, for the sake of our readers, that we strive to sum up what Sutherland said about the "Primary respiratory mechanism" and how the subordinate "five ideas" add up to a whole. I know it would be impossible to impose clarity and consistency where these do not exist, but I don't know whether they do or not. I simply don't have the information necessary to improve it myself, but I feel that most of our readers would look briefly at the article and draw very little from it other than the idea that CST may or may not be "quackery", depending upon which "expert" you listen to. I think our most important improvement to the article would be to clearly outline what CST is, including what ailment(s) it purports to treat, what treatment mechanisms are employed during a treatment session, and how key terms are defined (since terms like "craniosacral" and "primary respiratory mechanism" seem to have counter-intuitive meanings in the CST world). I'm still having some difficulty understanding some of the key concepts of CST, but maybe you're having better luck finding sources to elucidate the topic. Wilhelm Meis ( ☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 05:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey David Gerard; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:
There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 08:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I have made a proposal at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Fork the wiki in which I used a diff authored by you as an example. Yngvadottir ( talk) 20:46, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your bug reports. "Wings" are on the backlog, having been categorized as an enhancement. As for the cornetto, I couldn't find a free image quickly. Maybe one day I'll photograph one for commons and then you can look forward to Pony++ 2.0.... Oh, BTW your "painful" posting seems to be truncated. - Pointillist ( talk) 09:50, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk%3ANeuro-linguistic_programming&diff=564873961&oldid=564856461
Why do you ignore breaches of WP policy from editors you agree with? WykiP ( talk) 13:19, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey David Gerard. The newest updates:
Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) ( talk) 22:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Org. Since you had some involvement with the org redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Widefox; talk 13:14, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Did you notice this discussion? A followup is there. Incnis Mrsi ( talk) 08:01, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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I appreciate your review of my recent edits to the New Relic Wiki article. I do try to keep my writing in a neutral POV but looks like I didn't succeed this time. I just took another crack at making it more neutral. Would you mind taking a look at my edits? If they indeed have succeeded in achieving a neutral POV, would you mind removing the advert tag? If it's still not where it should be, I would appreciate any guidance you have. Thanks again for your help on this! JNorman704 ( talk) 21:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
That was not a minor edit ...Plese apolozise -- Joijoi89 ( talk) 23:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Homeopathy&diff=569492925&oldid=569492160
Hi David, I'm afraid I've just reverted your addition of an external link to the James Boswell article as it's not the same person; the website you've inserted the link to is for James Boswell (1906-1971) but the article is for James Boswell (1740-1795). The one I think you were looking for is James Boswell (artist)? Sorry about that! SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:22, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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This was a poor use of admin privileges. The initial move was evidently controversial, so it should be requested at WP:RM. St Anselm ( talk) 13:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
I applaud your move. So does Slate: Wikipedia Beats Major News Organizations, Perfectly Reflects Chelsea Manning’s New Gender Liz Let's Talk 20:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
When used correctly though, these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes. Trouble arises when legitimate comparisons, either by analogy with existing or non-existing article kinds, are disregarded without thought or consideration of the Wikipedia:Five pillars.
Hi, I asked a question of you here. I'd be grateful if you could post a diff and put end to the matter. Thanks, -- RA ( ✍) 21:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
We've written one. Talk:Chelsea_Manning#Supplementary_.21vote_rationale. @ Rannpháirtí anaithnid: @ Tariqabjotu: Comment section under it - David Gerard ( talk) 15:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I've opened an informal discussion relating to concerns with your conduct:
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:AN#Manning_incident:_sanctions.2Factions_against_parties.3F
Regards, -- RA ( ✍) 09:20, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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David,
I looks like you pasted information into the thread with diff that you may not have intended. I've removed removed it through an edit. You may want to redact it.
-- RA ( ✍) 12:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
David:
Thanks for the fixes on IBM Lotus Symphony. I noticed the errors (e.g. "sponsored to") and staleness but didn't have the time at the time to research the matter.
Your work is much appreciated, Madman ( talk) 16:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Ever try substituting Lillet Blanc for the dry vermouth? Now that's a fine drink. Joefromrandb ( talk) 18:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi David,
Could you please explain your recent revert at WP:MOS? The editor whose edit you reinstated said: "I am completely wrong and have made a mistake, I thought the revision was broader than it was. Is it safe for me to re-revert my change, or would that cause trouble?" [6]. GabrielF ( talk) 07:16, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if you intended to alter the guideline, but you removed the passage during debate. Fortunately, I recovered the passage. -- George Ho ( talk) 16:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
David, let be be perfectly honest and I mean this in the least threatening tone possible, but I am considering filing an Arbcom case over the move and specifically your use of admin tools (and also the behaviors of others). The community has been unable to solve this on administrative noticeboards so I wanted to reach out to you and see if this can be solved here before we have to go through the nightmare ahead. In retrospect and given the close of the move discussion, do you see how the issue, although very well intentioned, was actually controversial? If so, do you still think your actions were correct or would a move discussion have been better? Do you think a move discussion would've resulted in the name being changed to Chelsea sooner rather than in 30 days? I saw the comment you just posted on the talk page about how her being a convicted criminal doesn't change how we should treat her self identification. I found your words to be reasonable and level headed and that inspired me to try to talk to you about this. Thanks.--v/r - T P 14:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
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A beer on me! | |
As an editor, I don't think we're able to find middle ground here. As a person, I think you've probably had a rough week and you need this beer. I still disagree, but I'm empathetic to the stress this whole this has been. v/r - T P 15:36, 31 August 2013 (UTC) |
You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Chelsea Manning and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—
Thanks, — ΛΧΣ 21 23:25, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I also think the decision was clearly wrong in regard to policy and disastrous in regard to the overall treatment of transgendered individuals. What do you think in regard to the way forward (eg. a possible move review or a new discussion at some point)? At the time of the recent move the media already predominantly used Chelsea [7], but I'm concerned about a precedent that would make such moves of transgendered people's articles dependent on the amount of press coverage, a situation apparently only applying to transgendered people. I also find it unlikely that all those editors coming to oppose using her current name will not be there eg. in 30 days. Josh Gorand ( talk) 16:02, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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For going above and beyond what most administrators would have done, and being willing to go against the majority in the interest of protecting our BLP subjects, please accept this Barnstar. The Wordsmith Talk to me 01:19, 2 September 2013 (UTC) |
Just wondering what brand of Ale you enjoy because that ain't no Martini mate. Thanks for the reply to my comment. 208.54.40.134 ( talk) 09:45, 4 September 2013 (UTC) Cheers!!!
What brand may I inquire? If you get the chance try some Knob Creek Bourbon on the rocks and sip on it. Hmmm! 208.54.40.134 ( talk) 09:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.
Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page ( bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.
A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed ( 48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".
In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>
) (
bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in
bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (
bug 53507).
Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).
If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:43, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the dirtywork on this. I'm surprised that you didn't know about this insane hypersensitivity to updating links to avoid redirects. While it's probably true that it's not worth doing that in most cases (not worth editors' time, not worth cluttering up edit histories) to do this in most cases, it is certainly true that, once an editor has (wisely or unwisely) changed a link to avoid the redirect, it's utterly stupid to invest more time changing it back. But some people are happy to follow rules right off the edge of a cliff. Thanks again. EEng ( talk) 22:09, 5 September 2013 (UTC) P.S. BTW, how do you like the article? I'm afraid (as you'll see on its Talk) that I had to go through some grief for it.
The Arbitration Committee has passed a temporary injunction in the case in which you are a party to. The full text of the injunction follows:
The articles " Bradley Manning", " United States v. Manning", and " Chelsea Manning gender identity media coverage" are placed under standard discretionary sanctions for the duration of the case. Unless otherwise provided for in the final decision, any sanction imposed pursuant to this injunction will automatically lapse upon the closure of the case.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee,
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Penwhale |
dance in the air and
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23:08, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
David,
I'm preparing evidence for the Manning case and I want to be as little of a dickhead as possible. I want to demonstrate that you and Morwen are friends offline. I can do this within the bounds of admissible evidence; but it involves linking to things that would reveal emails and I don't want to do that.
So, for the sake of everybody's benefit, could you acknowledge here that (1) you and Morwen know each other offline and (2) you're friends.
That business aside, I think it would be worthwhile seeking that there be no sanctions in this case. I think NE Ent has a point when he/she opposes any more "wiki-blood-letting". I think a findings of fact are more important. As is a reconciliation between the (essentially) good faith editors involved. I'm of a mind to formally propose that to ArbCom. Would you support it?
I don't count editors who made explicit breaches of civility among that (mens rea, as you've been describing them elsewhere).
Best, -- RA ( ✍) 09:18, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
The main effect on interactions of knowing each other is that you actually remember the other person is a human; I submit that this is not a bad thing for Wikipedia editors to remember.
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David, I don't know if you got my email response. I need confirmation of consent for the five items before I can post them to the evidence page. Thanks. DPRoberts534 ( talk) 04:46, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I hope it isn't inappropriate to contact you in this way. I see that you are (and have been) somewhat active on the NLP talk page, and that you are an admin here at Wikipedia. I'm having difficulty progressing in a discussion on said talk page, due to repeated and disruptive personal attacks (from User:AnotherPseudonym), which myself and another user ( User:Snowded) have unsuccessfully attempted to stop. I am unsure of what to do and would appreciate your input. Thanks. Lex.shrapnel ( talk) 14:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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For those following my talk page: I've just nominated OpenOffice.org for GA. Uninvolved reviewers are needed. Thanks :-)
(and I realise GA generally has a shortage of reviewers, and will do some myself) - David Gerard ( talk) 13:52, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, David Gerard. Thank you for your recent submission of evidence for the Manning naming dispute Arbitration case. As you may be aware, the Arbitration Committee asks that users submitting evidence in cases adhere to limits regarding the length of their submissions. These limits, currently at 1000 words and 100 diffs for parties and 500 words and 50 diffs for all others, are in place to ensure that the Arbitration Committee receives only the most important information relevant to the case, and is able to determine an appropriate course of action in a reasonable amount of time. The evidence you have submitted currently exceeds at least one of these limits, and is presently at 1677 words and 99 diffs. Please try to reduce the length of your submission to fit within these limits; this guide may be able to provide some help in doing so. If the length of your evidence is not reduced soon, it may be refactored or removed by a human clerk within a few days. Thank you! If you have any questions or concerns regarding the case, please contact the drafting Arbitrator or case clerk (who are listed on the case pages); if you have any questions or concerns about this bot, please contact the operator. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Hersfold ArbClerkBOT( talk) 04:23, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.
As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u>
(underline), <sub>
(subscript), and <sup>
(superscript), <s>
(strikethrough) and <code>
(computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at
Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.
In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references ( bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label ( bug 51670).
In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted ( bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.
Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" ( bug 50452).
Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application ( bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.
Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate ( bug 53503).
Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter ( bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again ( bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.
If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:45, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, David. Just wanted to let you know that a new finding of fact concerning you has been proposed in the Manning arbitration proposed decision. Newyorkbrad asked that an uninvolved user notify you of this, so I'm doing so. Best, — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 04:52, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
This is a message to inform you that an finding has been proposed in regards to you in the Manning naming dispute arbitration case. You may find it useful to review the guide to arbitration. Regards, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 12:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The Anomalist is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Anomalist until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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Hello, David
I saw your hatnote/dab restoration in OpenOffice.org and after a couple of minutes I understood the point of your revert. However, there are also WP:INTDAB (especially WP:HOWTODAB) and Wikipedia:HATNOTE § Examples of improper use to consider. So, I slightly changed your edit to ensure that (1) "(disambiguation)" is seen in the link, (2) the purpose of Apache OpenOffice link is clear without being improperly attributed to having something to do with OOo and (3) the page is not flagged as needing attention.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk)
16:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
{{
Distinguish|Apache OpenOffice}}
with {{
for|similary-named Apache project|Apache OpenOffice}}
. What do you think? Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk)
17:02, 3 October 2013 (UTC)Hi David. I've added some comments to the current discussion at User talk:Jimbo Wales. There's also a (possibly interesting) current discussion on my talk page, but bear in mind that I express only my own opinions on that page. Regards, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:17, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to try and do a decent review at FAC at some point; I'd say that technically having a merge tag makes the article unstable, but it seems like something that can be reasonably be addressed one way or another. Might be a good idea to solicit comments from relevant wikiprojects to try and get some sort of ad hoc consensus on the matter? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs( talk) 23:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Thanks for your review. Indeed, the section "other references" is long. I can divide it : Geology... Best wishes. Gtaf ( talk) 19:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
As you may know,
VisualEditor ("Edit beta") is currently available on the English Wikipedia only for registered editors who choose to enable it. Since you have made 50 or more edits with VisualEditor this year, I want to make sure that you know that you can enable VisualEditor (if you haven't already done so) by going to
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Hey David Gerard. I'm dropping you a note to let you know (or remind you) about Flow, the structured discussion system for Wikipedia that we're building. You may have heard about some of the longer-term vision for Flow in the past, but in the last two months we've been moving quickly to narrow down the short-term scope of the project, and we're keen to get feedback.
First: we've written up an explanation of the " minimum viable product" – the set of features that will be in the first, on-wiki deployment. Because discussions on Wikipedia are complex and varied, we're approaching Flow development as an incremental process of uncovering user needs for different types of discussion. The first release will be limited to a few WikiProject talkpages only, with the goal of testing out our first stab at peer-to-peer discussion functionality and improving it based on feedback from the WikiProject members who use it. If you've got any thoughts on the MVP, or on the philosophy we're trying to follow with this software, let us know on the Flow talkpage. If you know of a WikiProject that might be interested in testing this out, let Maryana know on her talkpage :)
Second: we're having a set of discussions around some experimental features we'll be trying in the first release. These include indenting and nesting of comments and comment editing. If you've got any practical thoughts on these, we'd appreciate hearing them. For background and feedback on the design, there are the ongoing set of design iteration notes, a Design FAQ, and a page for design feedback.
The software prototype is still in early development, and changing daily in small ways, with major goals updating every 2 weeks. If you've got comments about other bits of the software, we'll be holding an
IRC office hours session in #wikimedia-office at
18:00 UTC on 17 November to talk about Flow as a whole, and fielding questions on the talkpage before and after then.
Third: this is a pre-newsletter announcement of a new WP:Flow/Newsletter signup page! If you'd like further updates, details, and requests for input, please add your name there.
Thanks, Quiddity (WMF) ( talk) 19:53, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
For the Arbitration Committee, Rs chen 7754 01:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at
Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to
your preferences and choosing the item, "
MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable
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The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption ( bug 50459).
There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected ( bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances ( bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances ( bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories ( bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias ( bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes ( bug 54712).
Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:46, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi David. I saw your comments at FAC talk. Although there are some general points there, I think your current nom has a particular problem. When I had a look to see whether to review, the page had a merge template on it. I don't think an article can be considered stable unless that is resolved, and editors will think twice about reviewing articles that may disappear. I once had a request to change an article's title during FAC, but that's a different issue which doesn't affect the content. I'm still willing to review when you can let me know the issue has been resolved (I'm no expert on software though). Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:45, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'm JD3rulo. The thing is that I'm a huge fan of Jessie J, I have made changes in her page, but other users have removed them, replying that the links I referred to don't belong to reliable sources. So I'm wondering if you could dedicate part of your time in helping me to fill some topics that are abandoned, such as Jessie J's vocal type, range and also writing updated news about her career lately. I hope you can help me, cause it seems Jessie's page has been forgotten. If you need some help to write about any article or making research, you can count on me, so this is the only thing I can give you: my friendship to make wikipedia a better and updated site. Chao, have a nice day! JD3rulo ( talk) 18:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
As a matter of principle, the remedy found against you is terrible, inappropriate, and, as such, I have appealed it here. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 21:28, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
The case itself? If you look at the voting on the proposed decision, you can see where I opposed certain findings and remedies. But if a majority of the committee supports those findings and remedies, what then? If you are on a committee like this, you have to respect that a decision has been taken, even when you disagree with it.
On the larger picture of press coverage, it is a good thing when bloggers and journalists cover arbitration cases (it very rarely happens, for obvious reasons), but there are pitfalls such as internal and external disputes spilling over both ways (from the wider internet onto Wikipedia and the other way), and inaccurate reporting by those less familiar with Wikipedia.
The Guardian article, for example, claimed that the Arbitration Committee decided which name the article should be at - a glaring error. Contacting us (or anyone with a basic knowledge of Wikipedia's arbitration system) would have enabled simple errors like that to be corrected, and the article rounded off with one of those standard 'when contacted and asked to comment, the following statement was provided'-type things. The fact that the journalist failed to do this (as far as I can tell), and made that basic error, is what I was trying to point out above.
And no, we (ArbCom) don't have any PR resources provided. Maybe we should (in high-profile cases like this), but I already said that above. Anyway, if there is more to say on this, a better place would be at the noticeboard talk page, as you might get comments from other arbitrators there as well. Carcharoth ( talk) 00:24, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The problem for ArbCom is not just that they have done a nasty thing by equating transphobic commentary with the complaints of those who oppose it. The problem is that it was such a stupid nasty thing, which is so transparently unjust of itself, even if the reader is unaware of background problems such as the apparent CoI of one of the arbs.
Be grateful that their folly was not more subtle. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:21, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
I just saw that Phil Sandifer got banned for "outing" an editor who has participated extensively in groups dedicated to outing those whose agenda they dislike, and pointing out a COI that the genuinely should have disqualified them from piling in, unlike the entirely bogus conflict brought about by knowing any trans people and not despising them. In the history of Wikipedia, I struggle to think of any decision quite this breathtakingly stupid. When did respecting someone's an article subject's clearly-expressed gender identity become thoughtcrime? I know that for some people being allowed to edit despite gross conflicts of interest is a point of principle but this has become farcical. Guy ( Help!) 21:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Re our discussion at User talk:Psychonaut/Archive 11#Y Window System, the article Y Window System was deleted via WP:PROD, then undeleted via Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#Y Window System, and has now been formally nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Y Window System. Your participation in the AfD is welcome. — Psychonaut ( talk) 11:00, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Am struggling to find sufficent indepenent verifiable references for Mr Floppy - there is a comment that " 100 000 Morrisseys" recieved airplay on John Peel's radio show (which in itself is not enough to establish notability for the song) but would assist in the main article for Mr Floppy. I appreciate your extensive knowledge of alternative Australian music for the 1980s and was wondering if you could point me to any likely sources that help to improve the article and establish its notability. Dan arndt ( talk) 01:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Interested in your opinion here. -- Stylecustom ( talk) 01:06, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.
A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Wikipedia were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.
There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:
/wiki/Foobar?veaction=edit
and /?title=Foobar&veaction=edit
both now have text links that work if triggered (
bug 48915).$wgVisualEditorParsoidForwardCookies
set to true) (
bug 44483). (Most private wikis will also need to install Parsoid and node.js, as VisualEditor requires them.)Looking ahead:
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for looking, an interesting addition to my comparison, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:38, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
"scrupulous fairness"
Thank you, experienced "fairly logical and smart" editor, for
adding precision, helping with categories and
fighting spam, and for good answers to questions in
ACE 2004 (deep breath, "scrupulous fairness, ... just because someone is annoying and difficult doesn't mean they're actually wrong in a given case.") and
ACE 2013, - you are an
awesome Wikipedian!
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I appreciate some of the answers you have provided on the ArbCom election questions. Varnent ( talk)( COI) 01:14, 26 November 2013 (UTC) |
Hey, thanks for your comment. Yup, unfortunately Jahia doesn't have its own page yet. Obviously the page has been deleted 5 times in the past. I have been trying to contact the admins to know if that was possible to recreate it. I don't really understand why the page could not be on Wikipedia now but that's not my call :)
Hey :)
Yeah I figured something was missing here ahah. To be honnest, I am a bit surprised that Jahia can't have a page and others with coverage from their own websites can. It's usually against the Wikipedia's rules so I was surprised when I checked the list of CMS yesterday. (Some even have an advertisement banner on their page which is completely against the rules and should be rewritten completely)
I did a bit of research though and that's what I found about Jahia's coverage:
CMS Wire, and here. A study from KSU, study from IDC, study from 451, from Ars Logica and an article from CNET. An article from W3 Reports for the CMS Expo. JAVA CMS roundup from a blog.
Vulnerability report from Secunia.
I thought it would be a good start. They also have a French and a Russian page. I do not want to whine about it but I find a bit unfair that they are the only ones not having a page on Wikipedia EN. Especially since they have a page on two other wikipedia.
Just my 2 cents :)
Puda ( talk) 15:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
If you have any about this, I'd very much like to hear them. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 18:33, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Carrière des Nerviens Regional Nature Reserve is now a Good article. Thank you very much for your help. Christian COGNEAUX alias Gtaf ( talk) 19:49, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
The conversation at Talk:Australia_national_association_football_team#Suggested_move_discussion_.232 may be of potential interest to you.-- LauraHale ( talk) 21:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rktect. Dougweller ( talk) 21:56, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.
There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:
?veaction=edit
to the end of the page name. For example, change
/info/en/?search=Special:Random
to
/info/en/?search=Special:Random?veaction=edit
to open a random page in VisualEditor. This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 20:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello David, some time ago (August 2013) you tagged the Apache Marmotta article with no references. I recently reviewed the article and added more references and I would like to check with you if it is safe now to remove the tag. I also looked for and integrated non-primary sources, such as online pages:
and books:
an ongoing open source development used to demonstrate the concepts of semantic lifting and interlinking of media resources
I am not sure if the Apache Software Foundation counts as a primary or secondary source (as the foundation is not directly involved in defining the scope, nor in developing the software).
Thanks for your feedback and happy holidays. Devbug ( talk) 10:17, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Just thought you might be interested in knowing that the top vote getter in the ArbCom election is a long and valued member of Wikipediocracy. Cheers! Cla68 ( talk) 09:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I'm just letting you know I responded to your comment here. OwenVersteeg ( talk) 16:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)