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WP:ADMINACCT, WP:ARBACCT — Ched : ? 03:06, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
You might look at commons category contribution and contrbutions before 4th November 1.39.37.124 ( talk) 06:51, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Ched,
I actually thought your essay had a lot of promise. I saw it was deleted as db-self, I've taken the liberty of copying a cached version in my sandbox and am working on it (my writing's a bit flowery, by my own admission ). If you'd like to work on it, it's over here . KoshVorlon 20:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
@ KoshVorlon: I've histmerged Ched's edits into your sandbox. Like article space, creative content from Wikipedia space should not be cut-and-paste moved without proper attribution. Best, Jenks24 ( talk) 05:39, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Jenks24 Typically, that's the way it works, and I'm aware of that, however, Wikipedia deleted that page, thus removing all attrition. Because that was true, I didn't see a problem with the copy and paste, either way, I attributed the original to Ched in a hidden comment. Thanks for the merge, however, as I wouldn't have been able to do it myself! KoshVorlon 11:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey,
Ched,
I know we don't know each other but I've been reading your comments around on Wikipedia today and see your frustration. I also noticed that lately you mainly post to User talk pages and Wikipedia-space pages. Maybe participating in a WikiProject or on a article collaboration might bring back the Wikipedia spirit. I realize this is unasked for advice but I know last year when I spent most of my time on noticeboards, I became quite depressed about the project and only an extended WikiBreak turned my cynical attitude around. I don't do much content creation but I have an enormous Watchlist and check out lots of pages in the Article-space to see how they are doing. Be well,
Liz
Read!
Talk! 22:49, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Neelix. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Neelix/Evidence. Please add your evidence by November 17, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Neelix/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Amortias ( T)( C) 20:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above
This case was opened to address the behavior of Neelix ( talk · contribs), a long-time editor and administrator. Neelix has subsequently resigned as an administrator and acknowledged that he may not regain administrator status without a new, successful request for adminship. [5]. In addition, an extensive community discussion on the incidents noticeboard has resulted in a one-year topic ban from Neelix's creating redirects.
Under these circumstances, this case is closed without further action. The restriction already imposed at ANI remains in force. Neelix is strongly counseled to take the concerns expressed by the community into account in his future editing, and cautioned that he may be subject to additional sanctions if problems recur.
For the Arbitration Committee Amortias ( T)( C) 23:58, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
[6] — Ched : ? 18:58, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Ched, please feel free to add to this. It's the Arbacct page you started . I kept your bullet points, including the bullet point I suggested and have been enlarging on them (not too much, after all, we don't want TLDR :) ). Feel free to come by and add stuff in! KoshVorlon 19:19, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
I agree with your block of Rationalobserver, although I can see how others might not. I'm curious, why was it so easy to block RO for disruption but an admin like Neelix was immune from any block for his disruption? Any ideas? Viriditas ( talk) 08:25, 15 November 2015 (U
Just letting ya know. I opposed the indef block, because I believe such blocks (and sitebans) should be limited to long-term vandalizers & sock-masters. It has nothing to do with the female/male stuff. IMHO, we're all Wikipedian & thus gender-neutral. GoodDay ( talk) 22:09, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
I DON'T CARE — Ched : ? 23:21, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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No idea what this is about, but I care about good admins and about Wikipedia. Try this: User:Dweller/Suggestions for wikistressed editors -- Dweller ( talk) 11:42, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
and one day only. My email is open. Anyone wishing to hear my views of ACE may now ask. — Ched : ? 02:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I said a LONG time ago that GGTF was a big mistake. History has proven that I was right about that. Any efforts to get women to join Wikipedia is a good thing ... OFF wiki. Where should I start? "Task Force"? Does that sound like a collaborative idea? I think not. Should I make a joke about "Women's Membership Drive"?
Fact: Any time you try to take a group of people and push them to any sort of agenda - it is going to alienate all those who are not part of that group. If there were a "White men task force" ... how would that be accepted. A black Muslim task force?
When you try to isolate ANY group of people, even with the best of intentions, you alienate others. Wikipedia fell down a slippery slope. The entire sad situation has been tearing this project apart for more than a year. Arbcom has been trying to deal with it - the result? Try to pin the blame on individuals. The result? Even MORE distention. Where does it stop?
You folks do what you will - I said a while back "I don't care". There really is a real life 'out there' .. I thought the idea with Wikipedia was to document it; not try to influence it. — Ched : ? 06:31, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Music in your ears and heart! (in a box) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:56, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Ched, you're probably not in the mood to hear this right now, but I see this as going over the line. If you're trying to convince people of something you're not going to do achieve that with insults and ad-hominems. Could you please take a couple minutes and refactor that? ~ Awilley ( talk) 19:11, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2015 Colorado Springs shootings is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015 Colorado Springs shootings until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. True CRaysball | #RaysUp 05:28, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ched. There were no discussions before I moved 2015 Colorado Springs shootings to 2015 Colorado Springs shooting. To me, the move appeared to be uncontroversial since the subject was clearly about one incident and therefore the use of the plural "shootings" appeared to be in error. My apologies if this has caused any trouble or confusion. – Zntrip 03:18, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
You should state you are an Admin on your userpage VictoriaGrayson Talk 20:32, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, because Cruz is always concerned about accuracy. [9] Viriditas ( talk) 22:30, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Guerillero was talking to the IP about his guide, not to you about yours. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 23:12, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Could you have a look at this bundle of AN/I laughs and advise a user if it is permissible to link an account with declared (then undeclared) alt. accounts with the editor's permission? To me, it's a bit of a no-brainer, but the individual wants to hear it from an admin for some odd reason -- samtar whisper 18:04, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
I have NEVER edited under any other account --- having ONLY edited Wikipedia under my IP address prior to establishing my Professor JR account, and then only under that account (from the same IP address).certainly doesn't tally with either the 2010 account, or the multiple IP addresses used. (Although the IP addresses aren't declared, they're clearly the same person, unless he's remarkably tolerant of allowing IP editors to write content in his sandboxes and to make additions to his user page.) While he's clearly lying, I can't see anything that actually rises to the level of abuse here. ‑ Iridescent 21:55, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
[10] didn't come out quite right. NE Ent 15:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
I will be posting my own supports for Arbcom shortly. — Ched : ? 14:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Not going to happen. Offwiki discussions happen by the hundreds for each case. Most of it is on their own mail list, which is of course offwiki. I've emailed Arbs on many occasions, although I never try to tell them what to do (that would be pointless) and instead opine about larger philosophical issues that are impacted by the case, a perspective shared by some in the community. Sometimes I might point out a mistake with a diff, but that is rare. I use it as a chance to be helpful, not critical. I save critical comments for onwiki, where it belongs. Some reply, some don't. The problem is, you can't filter out what is good and bad contact even if you had a list. If there was some wrongdoing in a discussion, they would just leave it out of the list altogether since no one has the ability to subpoena or search their hard drives. It isn't verifiable. And we both know that most improper communication happens via IRC anyway, so anything that they released would be useless. This case is a giant thorn in the paw of Wikipedia: We just want it pulled out so the healing can begin. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:12, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
— Ched : ? 12:19, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ched. In response to your message at VictoriaGrayson's talkpage, I'm interested in those identification-codes, like
Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:35, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 28, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Lankiveil ( speak to me) 11:25, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
I'd say hi! It's been a while :) Steven Crossin (was Steven Zhang) 00:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
IN all honesty, i'm getting burned out. I don't have the stomach for such heavy insult, and false claims. I really just want to edit. I am doing my absolute best to be calm. And i'm not mad, or angry, or want to lash out. I'm more upset and disconnected. But why do i get the feeling this isn't about me proving myself, and just me submitting to it? There are people I've never heard of, who make it seem like they know exactly who i am (at least in Wikipedia). Am i exaggerating? Like even though Wikipedia is a place where everyone can edit and improve, there's always a part of it that still reminds me "its the internet".
I'm not trying to take any of it personally. I'm really not. But with how it transpire, there's not a shred of positivity. No matter how i explain myself, people will stick with their initial beliefs. Am i exaggerating? Am i being overly-sensitive? In the past i was constantly called "Over-dramatic". So i don't know how to respond to these situations. I thought i was taking an active approach to just clarifying. I wasn't trying to argue with anyone. I was just criticized for responding too many times, yet other members took just as much to respond. I just don't understand the logic.
Do you think i should go to Arbcom? Lucia Black ( talk) 03:30, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
I gave it an honest chance. I really did. But Wikipedia is running me to my weaknesses, not my strengths. And i think the permanent block should resume. Its not healthy to deal with this. I've never seen a single editor be put to the things i've been put into. Nor is there a shining example of someone who had to overcome such an ordeal. Lucia Black ( talk) 11:31, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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I wish you ALL a very merry and joyous time. There are so many great folks here on wiki, that it would be an injustice for me to try to deliver personal greetings individually - simply because I would invariably miss a few of you great folks. I know that this is just a small part of "Teh Internetz" - but there truly are times when you come into my home and my heart. I know there are times when I make myself the fool, and I piss-off even my closest friends. Life is so very short - don't bow to anyone but yourself and your own beliefs. Be happy. — Ched : ? 02:23, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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Hey Ched, congratulations on your de-adminship! I have added reviewer, rollbacker, and autopatrolled flags to your account, I don't see any reason you shouldn't have them. Let me know if you don't want them and I will flip the off switch for you. Cheers, -- kelapstick( bainuu) 21:31, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
you're a great admin. Come back when you're refreshed. In the meantime, can I not-so-modestly recommend: User:Dweller/Suggestions for wikistressed editors. It's a little dated, but I still find it's useful when I've had enough! -- Dweller ( talk) 10:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
( talk page stalker)One avenue might be to consider the les-than-collaborative benefit of comments and edit summaries such as these: [14], [15], [16], [17] and especially [18]. But perhaps now is not the time for discussion of behavior, so long as discussion of content takes place without further personal attacks or edit-warring. Montanabw (talk) 01:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
i gave it an honest chance... i'm just not seeing the light at the end of tunnel. When things like this happen. i rather just be gone again. This place is just not for me Wikipedia is just like the rest of the internet, nothing more. I'm not going to ask you to ban me indefinitely again...there's no point. No one really cares. But this is me, saying "i can't do it". i just can't. Lucia Black ( talk) 18:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
OK - it's still so very early, but THIS is one I want to preserve for posterity. (ok - I'll settle for my own talk archives):
I've always thought arbcom clerking should be deprecated—I've never cared for the notion that the arbs are special snowflakes who can't be expected to descend from their ivory tower to maintain the dozen-or-so pages in their purview, nor for the idea of arbcom having its own private police force to stop the great unwashed saying things the Great Council of Elders might find objectionable. (Plus, as you've probably discovered by now, the position attracts more than its fair share of oddballs whom I certainly wouldn't want issuing statements or performing actions in my name.)(credit: User:Iridescent [19])
I've thought it, but have never been able to put my thoughts into words quite so well. TY. (and no offense intended to any individual clerks) — Ched : ? 17:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ched - thank you for taking the initiative here, however, in your close you mention you're closing it because there's not likely to be administrator action. I'm not sure if you're aware but the proposal was for community action, ergo, the WP:CBAN motion and the ensuing discussion and !voting. As this was a motion for community action, and the community was running 2:1 in favor of the CBAN with feedback being registered as recently as a few hours prior to your close, shutting it down does seem a little premature. I assume this is why the admins who'd previously looked at it, like Ultraexactzz, did not close it as it was a community discussion, not an appeal for admin action. LavaBaron ( talk) 21:49, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
You are correct about that. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:51, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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Could you take a look at the most recent discussion at the Billy the Kid article and provide some neutral insight? What's happening there seems to be against BRD as well as policy on consensus building. I'm going to ping Floquenbeam as well, because, in my estimation, there are two editors who are taking advantage of me being on a 1RR restriction, based on their most recent actions at the article and the mean spirited comments made about my recent block. Of course, I'm angry, so it's possible I'm seeing things through very subjective eyes. Thanks,-- WV ● ✉ ✓ 18:19, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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WP:ADMINACCT, WP:ARBACCT — Ched : ? 03:06, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
You might look at commons category contribution and contrbutions before 4th November 1.39.37.124 ( talk) 06:51, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Ched,
I actually thought your essay had a lot of promise. I saw it was deleted as db-self, I've taken the liberty of copying a cached version in my sandbox and am working on it (my writing's a bit flowery, by my own admission ). If you'd like to work on it, it's over here . KoshVorlon 20:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
@ KoshVorlon: I've histmerged Ched's edits into your sandbox. Like article space, creative content from Wikipedia space should not be cut-and-paste moved without proper attribution. Best, Jenks24 ( talk) 05:39, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Jenks24 Typically, that's the way it works, and I'm aware of that, however, Wikipedia deleted that page, thus removing all attrition. Because that was true, I didn't see a problem with the copy and paste, either way, I attributed the original to Ched in a hidden comment. Thanks for the merge, however, as I wouldn't have been able to do it myself! KoshVorlon 11:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey,
Ched,
I know we don't know each other but I've been reading your comments around on Wikipedia today and see your frustration. I also noticed that lately you mainly post to User talk pages and Wikipedia-space pages. Maybe participating in a WikiProject or on a article collaboration might bring back the Wikipedia spirit. I realize this is unasked for advice but I know last year when I spent most of my time on noticeboards, I became quite depressed about the project and only an extended WikiBreak turned my cynical attitude around. I don't do much content creation but I have an enormous Watchlist and check out lots of pages in the Article-space to see how they are doing. Be well,
Liz
Read!
Talk! 22:49, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Neelix. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Neelix/Evidence. Please add your evidence by November 17, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Neelix/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Amortias ( T)( C) 20:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above
This case was opened to address the behavior of Neelix ( talk · contribs), a long-time editor and administrator. Neelix has subsequently resigned as an administrator and acknowledged that he may not regain administrator status without a new, successful request for adminship. [5]. In addition, an extensive community discussion on the incidents noticeboard has resulted in a one-year topic ban from Neelix's creating redirects.
Under these circumstances, this case is closed without further action. The restriction already imposed at ANI remains in force. Neelix is strongly counseled to take the concerns expressed by the community into account in his future editing, and cautioned that he may be subject to additional sanctions if problems recur.
For the Arbitration Committee Amortias ( T)( C) 23:58, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
[6] — Ched : ? 18:58, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Ched, please feel free to add to this. It's the Arbacct page you started . I kept your bullet points, including the bullet point I suggested and have been enlarging on them (not too much, after all, we don't want TLDR :) ). Feel free to come by and add stuff in! KoshVorlon 19:19, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
I agree with your block of Rationalobserver, although I can see how others might not. I'm curious, why was it so easy to block RO for disruption but an admin like Neelix was immune from any block for his disruption? Any ideas? Viriditas ( talk) 08:25, 15 November 2015 (U
Just letting ya know. I opposed the indef block, because I believe such blocks (and sitebans) should be limited to long-term vandalizers & sock-masters. It has nothing to do with the female/male stuff. IMHO, we're all Wikipedian & thus gender-neutral. GoodDay ( talk) 22:09, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
I DON'T CARE — Ched : ? 23:21, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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No idea what this is about, but I care about good admins and about Wikipedia. Try this: User:Dweller/Suggestions for wikistressed editors -- Dweller ( talk) 11:42, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
and one day only. My email is open. Anyone wishing to hear my views of ACE may now ask. — Ched : ? 02:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I said a LONG time ago that GGTF was a big mistake. History has proven that I was right about that. Any efforts to get women to join Wikipedia is a good thing ... OFF wiki. Where should I start? "Task Force"? Does that sound like a collaborative idea? I think not. Should I make a joke about "Women's Membership Drive"?
Fact: Any time you try to take a group of people and push them to any sort of agenda - it is going to alienate all those who are not part of that group. If there were a "White men task force" ... how would that be accepted. A black Muslim task force?
When you try to isolate ANY group of people, even with the best of intentions, you alienate others. Wikipedia fell down a slippery slope. The entire sad situation has been tearing this project apart for more than a year. Arbcom has been trying to deal with it - the result? Try to pin the blame on individuals. The result? Even MORE distention. Where does it stop?
You folks do what you will - I said a while back "I don't care". There really is a real life 'out there' .. I thought the idea with Wikipedia was to document it; not try to influence it. — Ched : ? 06:31, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Music in your ears and heart! (in a box) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:56, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Ched, you're probably not in the mood to hear this right now, but I see this as going over the line. If you're trying to convince people of something you're not going to do achieve that with insults and ad-hominems. Could you please take a couple minutes and refactor that? ~ Awilley ( talk) 19:11, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2015 Colorado Springs shootings is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015 Colorado Springs shootings until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. True CRaysball | #RaysUp 05:28, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ched. There were no discussions before I moved 2015 Colorado Springs shootings to 2015 Colorado Springs shooting. To me, the move appeared to be uncontroversial since the subject was clearly about one incident and therefore the use of the plural "shootings" appeared to be in error. My apologies if this has caused any trouble or confusion. – Zntrip 03:18, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
You should state you are an Admin on your userpage VictoriaGrayson Talk 20:32, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, because Cruz is always concerned about accuracy. [9] Viriditas ( talk) 22:30, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Guerillero was talking to the IP about his guide, not to you about yours. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 23:12, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Could you have a look at this bundle of AN/I laughs and advise a user if it is permissible to link an account with declared (then undeclared) alt. accounts with the editor's permission? To me, it's a bit of a no-brainer, but the individual wants to hear it from an admin for some odd reason -- samtar whisper 18:04, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
I have NEVER edited under any other account --- having ONLY edited Wikipedia under my IP address prior to establishing my Professor JR account, and then only under that account (from the same IP address).certainly doesn't tally with either the 2010 account, or the multiple IP addresses used. (Although the IP addresses aren't declared, they're clearly the same person, unless he's remarkably tolerant of allowing IP editors to write content in his sandboxes and to make additions to his user page.) While he's clearly lying, I can't see anything that actually rises to the level of abuse here. ‑ Iridescent 21:55, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
[10] didn't come out quite right. NE Ent 15:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
I will be posting my own supports for Arbcom shortly. — Ched : ? 14:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Not going to happen. Offwiki discussions happen by the hundreds for each case. Most of it is on their own mail list, which is of course offwiki. I've emailed Arbs on many occasions, although I never try to tell them what to do (that would be pointless) and instead opine about larger philosophical issues that are impacted by the case, a perspective shared by some in the community. Sometimes I might point out a mistake with a diff, but that is rare. I use it as a chance to be helpful, not critical. I save critical comments for onwiki, where it belongs. Some reply, some don't. The problem is, you can't filter out what is good and bad contact even if you had a list. If there was some wrongdoing in a discussion, they would just leave it out of the list altogether since no one has the ability to subpoena or search their hard drives. It isn't verifiable. And we both know that most improper communication happens via IRC anyway, so anything that they released would be useless. This case is a giant thorn in the paw of Wikipedia: We just want it pulled out so the healing can begin. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:12, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
— Ched : ? 12:19, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ched. In response to your message at VictoriaGrayson's talkpage, I'm interested in those identification-codes, like
Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:35, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 28, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kevin Gorman/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Lankiveil ( speak to me) 11:25, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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I'd say hi! It's been a while :) Steven Crossin (was Steven Zhang) 00:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
IN all honesty, i'm getting burned out. I don't have the stomach for such heavy insult, and false claims. I really just want to edit. I am doing my absolute best to be calm. And i'm not mad, or angry, or want to lash out. I'm more upset and disconnected. But why do i get the feeling this isn't about me proving myself, and just me submitting to it? There are people I've never heard of, who make it seem like they know exactly who i am (at least in Wikipedia). Am i exaggerating? Like even though Wikipedia is a place where everyone can edit and improve, there's always a part of it that still reminds me "its the internet".
I'm not trying to take any of it personally. I'm really not. But with how it transpire, there's not a shred of positivity. No matter how i explain myself, people will stick with their initial beliefs. Am i exaggerating? Am i being overly-sensitive? In the past i was constantly called "Over-dramatic". So i don't know how to respond to these situations. I thought i was taking an active approach to just clarifying. I wasn't trying to argue with anyone. I was just criticized for responding too many times, yet other members took just as much to respond. I just don't understand the logic.
Do you think i should go to Arbcom? Lucia Black ( talk) 03:30, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
I gave it an honest chance. I really did. But Wikipedia is running me to my weaknesses, not my strengths. And i think the permanent block should resume. Its not healthy to deal with this. I've never seen a single editor be put to the things i've been put into. Nor is there a shining example of someone who had to overcome such an ordeal. Lucia Black ( talk) 11:31, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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And may your holidays be merry and bright . . . . Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 02:13, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
I wish you ALL a very merry and joyous time. There are so many great folks here on wiki, that it would be an injustice for me to try to deliver personal greetings individually - simply because I would invariably miss a few of you great folks. I know that this is just a small part of "Teh Internetz" - but there truly are times when you come into my home and my heart. I know there are times when I make myself the fool, and I piss-off even my closest friends. Life is so very short - don't bow to anyone but yourself and your own beliefs. Be happy. — Ched : ? 02:23, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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You are receiving this message as you have been involved with the Kevin Gorman Arbitration case. I just wanted to let you know that the case timetable has been changed - evidence now needs to be presented by 22 December 2015, the workshop closes 31 December 2015, and the Proposed decision is targeted to be posted 3 January 2016.
I would therefore be grateful if you could submit any additional evidence as soon as possible.
For the Arbitration Committee, -- Mdann52 ( talk) 09:59, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you, Ched, for inspiration and support, with my review, the peace bell by Yunshui, and best wishes, returning yours! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:30, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
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Hey Ched, congratulations on your de-adminship! I have added reviewer, rollbacker, and autopatrolled flags to your account, I don't see any reason you shouldn't have them. Let me know if you don't want them and I will flip the off switch for you. Cheers, -- kelapstick( bainuu) 21:31, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
you're a great admin. Come back when you're refreshed. In the meantime, can I not-so-modestly recommend: User:Dweller/Suggestions for wikistressed editors. It's a little dated, but I still find it's useful when I've had enough! -- Dweller ( talk) 10:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
( talk page stalker)One avenue might be to consider the les-than-collaborative benefit of comments and edit summaries such as these: [14], [15], [16], [17] and especially [18]. But perhaps now is not the time for discussion of behavior, so long as discussion of content takes place without further personal attacks or edit-warring. Montanabw (talk) 01:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
i gave it an honest chance... i'm just not seeing the light at the end of tunnel. When things like this happen. i rather just be gone again. This place is just not for me Wikipedia is just like the rest of the internet, nothing more. I'm not going to ask you to ban me indefinitely again...there's no point. No one really cares. But this is me, saying "i can't do it". i just can't. Lucia Black ( talk) 18:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
OK - it's still so very early, but THIS is one I want to preserve for posterity. (ok - I'll settle for my own talk archives):
I've always thought arbcom clerking should be deprecated—I've never cared for the notion that the arbs are special snowflakes who can't be expected to descend from their ivory tower to maintain the dozen-or-so pages in their purview, nor for the idea of arbcom having its own private police force to stop the great unwashed saying things the Great Council of Elders might find objectionable. (Plus, as you've probably discovered by now, the position attracts more than its fair share of oddballs whom I certainly wouldn't want issuing statements or performing actions in my name.)(credit: User:Iridescent [19])
I've thought it, but have never been able to put my thoughts into words quite so well. TY. (and no offense intended to any individual clerks) — Ched : ? 17:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ched - thank you for taking the initiative here, however, in your close you mention you're closing it because there's not likely to be administrator action. I'm not sure if you're aware but the proposal was for community action, ergo, the WP:CBAN motion and the ensuing discussion and !voting. As this was a motion for community action, and the community was running 2:1 in favor of the CBAN with feedback being registered as recently as a few hours prior to your close, shutting it down does seem a little premature. I assume this is why the admins who'd previously looked at it, like Ultraexactzz, did not close it as it was a community discussion, not an appeal for admin action. LavaBaron ( talk) 21:49, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
You are correct about that. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:51, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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Peacemaker67 RfA Appreciation award |
Thank you for participating and supporting at my RfA. It was very much appreciated, and I am humbled that the community saw fit to trust me with the tools. Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 04:54, 6 February 2016 (UTC) |
Could you take a look at the most recent discussion at the Billy the Kid article and provide some neutral insight? What's happening there seems to be against BRD as well as policy on consensus building. I'm going to ping Floquenbeam as well, because, in my estimation, there are two editors who are taking advantage of me being on a 1RR restriction, based on their most recent actions at the article and the mean spirited comments made about my recent block. Of course, I'm angry, so it's possible I'm seeing things through very subjective eyes. Thanks,-- WV ● ✉ ✓ 18:19, 3 February 2016 (UTC)