WikiProject Ships Barnstar
An invitationInterested in helping me with an historical ocean liner project that will eventually encompass quite a few new articles? See User:Maralia/Collins headquarters for an idea of scope. User:Benea has kindly agreed to help me with my first focus, the User:Maralia/SS Arctic, but as you can see, there are a lot of related articles—only two of the articles in that template even exist outside of my userspace. Would you be interested in working on the shipyard, the architect (who is very famous, having also designed America (yacht)), or perhaps one of the other Collins ships? Maralia ( talk) 16:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
ThanksHi Barek, thanks for taking the time on No. 1 (yacht), i think the assesment template also goes for the Category:Hydrogen ships. Cheers. Mion ( talk) 17:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for jumping on that so fast! Murderbike ( talk) 19:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Ship infoboxI stole the format from somebody else on the ship navbox, I think it was here: Moyie (sternwheeler). Someday I'm hoping to get the company flags or logos instead. Mtsmallwood ( talk) 00:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC) Could you actually write something here? Basketball 110 the pages I've messed up completely 19:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
re:MV v M/VHello. Yes, I'm planning on moving the rest of the WSF fleet, but not tonight. It's a little after midnight here, and I'm getting rather tired. I'll likely start working through them in the morning. Yeah, I had noticed the problem when I created a pair of articles earlier today about a couple of M/Vs, and then stumbled upon the Rhododendron when I was looking through the unassessed importance backlog. Regards, Parsecboy ( talk) 05:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
More M/VThanks for letting me know about those others. I don't have much time to get to it now, but perhaps later on in the evening I'll start working through them. How far have you gotten through the list? I might just start at the end, and work my way forwards, and we'll meet in the middle I suppose. Parsecboy ( talk) 20:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Ship articles without infoboxesI noticed that you are tagging some of these articles with {{ newinfobox}}. The proper tag is {{ Ship infobox request}}. There are two seperate categories that correspond to these templates: Category:Ship articles without infoboxes, and Category:Ship articles needing infobox conversion. - MBK 004 22:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on this -- I know it's frustrating. I just checked my watchlist and saw I'd missed your firefight. I went ahead and blacklisted the new variant of the asiafanclub link --that may calm things down a bit, I hope: This one has a lot of disruptive history:
Thanks again, -- A. B. (talk) 05:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC) blacklist of asiafanclub.comCan you please remove asiafanclub.com from the blacklist, no one has respponded to the reasons put forth why it should not be reinstated! Thank you so much! Asia Pres —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.238.124.219 ( talk) 04:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Hello Barek. Thanks for your recent cleanup work on this article, to make it less promotional. Since one of the other editors was recently blocked for 3RR, I thought it was worth reopening the previous COI complaint; see WP:COIN#FreeLife. You are welcome to add your own thoughts to that discussion. EdJohnston ( talk) 00:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC) Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to add an opinion about the external links on this article's talk page. -- SiobhanHansa 19:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC) Good pointYour comment on Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Cschiffner is important. Thanks Toddst1 ( talk) 20:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC) Commerical Postings Regarding ZAP (motor company)Thank you for your guidance. I have posted a comment on the matter on Talk:Plug-in hybrid in response to input from you and others. Mea culpa. Fbagatelleblack ( talk) 17:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
March 2008
I am going to assume good faith on this one. I really don't understand why you made that edit. You voted delete on the AfD discussion and said the article was full of original research (which it is) and yet you went back to the article and removed the AfD template (when it is not yet resolved) and added back in to the article more original research. I have no idea what to make of it. I can only assume it was an accident because it makes no sense to me at all. You want the page deleted, yet you removed the AfD template and added in more bad information. I'm totally confused. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 19:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, did not realize that there was an article on video game addiction!!! Mysteryquest ( talk) 18:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC) Celebrity name changesAbout this... not that I'd be doubt you, but my (admittedly quite cursory) search into this could not find any information that any Celebrity Cruises ship (apart from Infinity and Constellation) would have been renamed with a "Celebrity" prefix. I know their own website has a prefix for all ships, but that's not nescessarily a reliable source as company websites are known to use a prefix even if the registered name doesn't have one ( Tallink for instance). So, yeah. -- Kjet ( talk · contribs) 08:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry. I did not mean to screw up the order on the article. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 22:41, 2 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
I put in the links. Now you can write the article. :} 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan If there is already an article, I'd be happy to help. If not, please start up the article and I'll add ot it. I'm about to get on that long-awaited plane, so I won't be able to get to it till the morning light. If you go to terrypepper.com and then look up the lighthouse you want, you'll have a really good start. The Clark Historical Library (Central Michigan University) has the website (heh-heh, isn't this ironic -- sorry, but I couldn't resist) that includes the chronology, list of resources (including books, manuscripts, etc.) They may have specific stuff on the Marquette Harbor Light. That will get you started. You also have to decide whether to call it the Marquette Light, Marquette Lighthouse, Marquette Light Station, etc., since there doesn't appear to be a Marquette Harbor Light article. See the discussion at the List of U.S. lighthouses. Have fun Sweet dreams. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Stan In any event, you know where to fine the link to the CMU lighthouse article. See for example Charity Island Light. Oh, alright, here it is again Take a quick look at this, which expressly references the light: http://clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhtime1.htm Clarke Historical Library - Sources Regarding the Lighthouses of ... Marquette, MI: Northern Michigan University Press, 1979. Penrose, Laurie. A Traveler's Guide to Eastern Great Lakes Lighthouses. ... clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhsour1.htm - 15k - Cached - Similar pages Clarke Historical Library - A Light House Keeper's Life Granite Island (11 miles north of Marquette) Light constructed. .... Big Bay Point (24 miles northwest of Marquette) Light constructed. Sault Ste. ... clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhtime1.htm - 56k - Cached - Similar pages 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
Asher 196 put in the picture. I hope your happy with the article. It would be nice to find a picture that showed the promontory. Unfortunately, I don't have one. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
FYI: The link to the Clarke Historical Library is still in the Further reading section, just reformatted to match standard wiki formatting. Double check, if that's not the link you were talking about, I may have misunderstood. --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 00:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Barek: FYI, I put the specific page of the Clarke Historical Library for each county in each of the entries of the 83 Michigan counties. So you can certainly adjust away, but they're already there. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
They say the infobox on this page is substandard. I thought you might be the one to correct that. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 02:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
Needs an infobox. Needs more info on the light itself. Terry Pepper has it. ----Stan Needs a better infobox. Thanks if you can find the time. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 01:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC) Stan Needs more info, better info box. Maybe you can beat Asher196 to it. Best. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 04:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Stan We are new to Wikipedia--and did not thoroughly study your external link guidelines--we will stop posting external links for now. I was led to post external links after seeing "Buck Owens" page which has had an external link to Rhino Entertainment (e.g. commercial site selling Buck Owens music product). How is Rhino Entertainment different than us? Why has their external link remained for weeks? We are not spammers--just ignorant of the rules. Best Camuco ( talk) 15:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)Camuco
A neutral non-COI WSEAS draft?Hi Barek, MER-C suggested I write a new WSEAS article, and I'm happy to give it a go, but I'd like access to the old versions (now nuked). Also, I am a newbie, this will be my second article, and I'd appreciate a hint on how you do this in userspace. Thanks, StaySeven ( talk) 18:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Help with the ASIA situationBarek,
My ip is 70.188.184.84, hu12 & AB was there in a heartbeat so no one can else can see it!70.188.184.84 (talk) 00:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)AP Retrieved from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asia_%28band%29"
Hey Barek, in regard to the Asia Fan Club issue, that may be a lost cause at this point, but in a larger sense, I'm concerned about the precedent this issue sets, as it seems administrators involved can't separate the idea of "punishing" the user from arguments surrounding the value of the link itself. If we're really building an encyclopedia here, we all need to be objective, especially the administrators, and I fear that this could lead down a dangerous road. Would you mind to chime on this issue? Thanks! -- Shubopshadangalang ( talk) 15:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Warren, Michigan gangsBarek: Please take a look at the talk page, discussion about gangs. The April 10 revert of the main article that I am concerned about is: XLinkBot (Talk | contribs) (16,570 bytes) (BOT--Reverting edits by 68.62.59.23 to revision 202239188 (\bmyspace\.com)) A strange entry indeed. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 19:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
Hi Barek. Thanks for cleaning up the references on the Giddy Up a Ding Dong page. TheRetroGuy ( talk) 20:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Barek: Please take a look at the talk page. There are several ambiguation problems that I know you know how to fix. Thank ou in advance. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 21:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC) Stan I would like to insert an image from a United States patent application which shows the McCoy oiler. I found it online by Googling Elijah McCoy picture. Since it is part of government documents, I don't see any copyright issues. This article would also benefit from a picture of McCoy himself, but finding one that we can use seems problematical. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
I think the article needs to be renamed for reasons I've put in the talk page. This is seriously wrong. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 18:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
New article, more or less finished. Please edit it in your usual fashion. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
The magic box (not the info box) is that big blue area with all the magic citations at the bottom. If you click on the last reference I inserted, you will not that the references/footnotes seem to appear in the magic box, and that you can't access the reference at all. If you take a look at the magic box, you will note that it has a group of letters (footnotes) in its upper left hand corner, which obviously don't belong there. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
You are right. They all work. I must have clicked on something in error. Err, 'Excuse the ring, please.' 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Stan I just made some changes to this page and noticed you have edited my text, including removing some of it. Some of your changes cleaned up mine, but I'm wondering why you deleted some of my text, especially discussion about rider's views of removal of the ferries, which is accurate. Do you work for WSF? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.165.7.19 ( talk • contribs) 13:51, April 20, 2008
Barak, thanks for clarifying these points. I'm new to this. Though I understand your point, and will abide by your knowledge of the wikipedia standards, I have to say that the source would be myself and conversations I've heard from other passengers and crew on this run. My point was not to add weasel words, but I feel that these questions and comments from ferry passengers raise important issues about the removal of these ferries from service. David. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.165.7.19 ( talk • contribs) 18:26, April 20, 2008
Barek: I'm sure you looked at Terry Pepper's explanation, which is lucid, but not as detailed as the following that I found on line at New England Lighthouse Wallpager Guide to Lewis Patent Lamps and Spherical Reflectors: Lewis Patent Lamps and Spherical ReflectorsWinslow Lewis, a former ship captain from Wellfleet, Cape Cod, patented his version of the Argand Lamp on June 8, 1810 and sold his “reflecting and magnifying lantern” patent to United States Government just prior to the War of 1812. Although the Lewis Patent Lamp required only half of the oil used by Spider Lamps, the intensity of his lamp was 400 times less that of the Argand Lamp used in Europe. Lewis promoted his device as a “magnifying and reflector lantern” claiming the system was a combined Lamp and magnifier with reflectors. In a effort to increase the lamp’s intensity, Lewis placed a lens, a “magnifier” made from a 4-inch diameter green bottle glass, in front of the flame to focus the straying beams of light. His “magnifier” accumulated soot immediately further dimming the Light and was later removed. Lewis lamps required constant adjustment and cleaning due to the inadequate draft and defective brass gears. The design of his silvered plated copper reflectors was another reason why his Lewis Patent Lamp was less effective than the Argand Lamp. The reflector’s silver finish was too thin to withstand abrasive cleaning and the thin copper could not hold its original parabolic shape when exposed to the heat of illumination. As a result, Lewis reflectors were altered into a spherical shape and the worn down reflective silver finish scarcely reflected the Lamp’s light. The spherical reflectors were inferior to the parabolic reflectors used behind Argand Lamps. The Lewis Patent Lamp was basically a poorly modified version of the Argand Lamp and parabolic reflectors. As one inspector noted the “magnifier” “made a bad light worse,” yet Lewis did not argue with his critics. He used the economy of the Lamp emphasizing the 50% oil savings over the Argand Lamps. In 1812, Congress approved the first contract for the maintenance of Lighthouses authorizing Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin, to purchase Winslow Lewis’ patent Lamps with Winslow Lewis refitting all Lighthouses in the United States with Lewis patent Lamps and to keep the new lantern system repaired. There are different accounts* of how Winslow Lewis was able to install a inferior Lamp system in American Lighthouses. According to Federal Law, contracts were awarded to the Contractor with the lowest offer as noted by Stephen Pleasonton, Fifth Auditor of the Treasury Department and federal administrator of U.S. Lighthouses. Winslow Lewis strongly promoted his own system of lighting and was frequently awarded contracts due to his low bids. In 1817, Winslow Lewis listed and described all American Lighthouses and noted his method of Lighting consumed 24,731 gallons of oil annually whereas the annual consumption of the prior oil Lamps was 52,000 gallons. A 52% fuel savings was most likely the major reason why a new developing nation approved the Lewis’ Lighting contract.
Author’s Note: The law mandating the acceptance of the lowest offer was either a blessing or a curse. Many Lighthouses were built to stand the test of time with diverse Architectural styles using aesthetic functional structures. Unfortunately, many Lighthouses were first built using poor construction and poor engineering practices resulting in a constant state of disrepair. In addition, this law was a reasonable way for a recently formed government to be cost effective. Winslow Lewis became the main Lighthouse Contractor for 30 years after rebuilding Frank’s Island Lighthouse (July 1818- March 1823) despite some questionable work done on the original structure by his sub-contractors, Benjamin Beal and Duncan Thaxter (1). After the dilemma of Franks Island Lighthouse, Winslow Lewis formed an alliance with Stephen Pleasonton, the Fifth Auditor of the Treasury and U.S. Lighthouse administrator (1820-1852) by winning contracts to build Conical Brick Lighthouses cheaply. Winslow Lewis consistently submitted the lowest bids and there was no “hard” evidence of illegal dealings between Lewis and Pleasonton (2). Winslow Lewis ignorance of engineering caused most of his Lighthouses to be replaced by taller structurally sound structures. Although his nephews allegations were incriminating and Lewis Patent Lamps were poorly designed and manufactured, research has yet to find evidence that he violated federal law. Stephen Pleasonton was given an administrative task that was outside his accounting knowledge. With no engineering background, Pleasonton awarded contracts to the lowest bidder per the law yet he was unable to verify the contractor’s qualifications. Congress later corrected these problems by creating a Board with experts from every trade involved in constructing Lighthouses. For 40 years**, American Lighting technology did not improve due in part to the cost of expensive European Lighting and whether existing Towers were built to structurally support the additional weight of the lens (a First-order Fresnel lens assembly can weigh up to 3-tons and was priced at $12,000 shipped in 1841). In addition, Winslow Lewis lobbied successfully to protect his Lighting System. In 1851, Congress ordered a investigation of the nation’s aids to navigation after receiving numerous strong complaints about the poor quality of America’s lighthouses, specifically the lights. Interestingly, Congress authorized two Fresnel lenses for testing in 1838 and the Navesink Twin Lights were refitted with First-order Fresnel lenses in 1841. Nine more years elapsed before the second Lighthouse was fitted with a Fresnel lens. After the successful tests, the Fresnel lens was not installed in the remaining Lighthouses until Pleasonton was replaced by he U.S. Light-House Board. Pleasonton insisted most keepers could not operate the new complex system and additional testing was required. On October 9, 1852, Congress established a nine member Lighthouse Board in response to the investigation that uncovered the poor condition of American Lighthouses. The Board included two Army Engineer Corps officers, two Navy officers, two Topographical Engineers officers, two scientists, and the Secretary of the Treasury who served as President of the Board. This team of specialists acted immediately in using new technology and all Lighthouses were refitted with Fresnel lenses by the time of the Civil War. The new lens system was three times the cost of the Lewis Lamp system yet the efficiency of the Fresnel lens assembly reduced fuel costs by 75% on average since only one oil lamp was needed whereas the Lewis system required many oil lamps. The major advantage of Fresnel Lenses was a 400% increase in the intensity of the focused beam of light over the Lewis Lamp system (Catoptric light). Eighty-three percent of the light is lost at the top and and bottom of a Catoptric light whereas a Fresnel catadioptric system collects and redirects 83% of the light into a focused horizontal beam.
(1) Benjamin Latrobe’s Designs for a Lighthouse at the Mouth of the Mississippi River by Michael W. Fazio The Journal of the Society of Architectural Historians, Vol. 48, No. 3 (Sep., 1989), pp. 232-247 (2) America’s Lighthouses: An Illustrated History by Francis Ross Holland, Jr. - Page 16 I would say that Pepper and this article basically agree. Had you seen that? Does that help? 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 01:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
I hope you don't mind...I saw your date/time box on your page and thought it looked nice. I copied the code to one of my pages. I hope that's ok with you. JodyB talk 22:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Spamstar of Glory
F3 ClassLeft a msg for you on my talk page. -- OneCyclone ( talk) 20:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC) Trying to prevent malicious postings by Hu12Can you advise how best to deal with this? I originally made my notations after his postings and he deleted those. Hu12 has been aggressively maligning me and my postings as well as other articles where the clear concensus on those individual articles is against him. What recourse do I have to make him stop? Urbanrenewal ( talk) 00:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Tried writing a reply first and Hu12 removed that as well. Fairly frustrating seeing my username on a spam list for really no reason Urbanrenewal ( talk) 00:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks I will try that. Urbanrenewal ( talk) 00:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Revised links (gjenvick.com) yield error 404..at least the few I tried do. -- CliffC ( talk) 04:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you :-)thank you for reverting my user page :-) SomeUsr | Talk Contribs 22:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Barek: We got a B from the Ships committee. Whoopee! Museums and the others got us up to a START. Anyway, happy editing. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
The following external link was inserted in this article. I would suspect it is the first of many occasions when we will see this commercial link. Mid-Michigan Ads Maybe you know what to do. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 02:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Your revert on Irritable bowel syndromeDear Barek, are you familiar with WP:MOS and WP:MEDMOS? The intro is supposed to be a brief summary of the following sections, so mentioning things that are expanded on later in the article is not a bad thing. Also, the article intro was too short; I may have made it too long, but then you should shorten it down to an appropriate length, not simply revert me. Finally, since me edit clearly was well-considered and well-intended, it might have been more appropriate to discuss first or explain your concerns. I hope to see your constructive comments and edits, kind regards, -- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 23:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
ANI PostYou were not in violation of 3RR. Your reverts fell under the spectrum of anti-vandalism. I thank you for being honest and keep up the good anti-vandalism work. Rgoodermote 21:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Barek: Haven't heard from you in a while. Hope all is doing well. If this were put down on the right side at the bottom by external links, I think it would look great, and would materially add to the article. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/marquetteOld.JPG Just a thought. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 18:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
I think the image placement balances out the article very nicely. Good job! 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 16:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Stan Barek: Would you take a look at this. Likewise, this picture http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/graniteisland.JPG might be good if it were on the right side on the external links area. Take a look and see what you think. Thanks. 15:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
Barek: Here's another one. USCG photo might be good. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/bigbaypoint.JPG Could go down on the right by External links 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 16:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Stan http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/fortgratiot.JPG 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 11:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Stan One of these national park service pictures should help. http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/hiawatha/recreation/lighthouses/point_iroquois_light/index.php?action=showtable Stan http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/pointauxbarques.JPG What do you think. I'll be gone for a few days. Take care. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 01:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC) Stan http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/copperharbor.JPG I think that this historical coast guard photo belongs in there somewhere. Take a look and see what you think. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 22:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Stan The form of this article is a mess. Can you help? 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 14:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
This one is more or less done. It could use a vintage coast guard photo, which is on their website. Here is the link. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/bigsable.JPG. Please feel free to edit your heart out. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 12:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC) Stan In reply to your commentHi, after I made the changes this morning I was wondering the same thing about the 'see also' section and the 'external links'. I went to other articles to compare and found it was being done both ways, external sections and also adding external links to the see also sections. So I too am baffled with this. I will ask an administrator who is my mentor to fill me in on this and then I will let you know too. I have no problems though if you revert or change what I did so don't worry about that. I actually got to this by a spammer who was spamming a bunch of articles in both sections, which I then realized the differences. Give me some time and I will contact Delldot right now, she is really pretty quick in responding and gives real good explanations on these kinds of questions. If you find out anything before me, I would appreciate it if you would pop over and tell me too. Thanks,-- CrohnieGal Talk 17:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Reference form problem. I know you can make this better. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 15:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC) Stan This article could use some help, if you can find the time. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Stan The references, links and infobox are there. All we're missing is actually credible text. If you can find the time. Happy 4th of July! 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Stan You know, this was a good catch, but why don't you just fix it instead of tagging? I would have put it into the numbered reference deal below, but I haven't figured out how to do that yet. I put in references because it was tagged. So now you tag it again. Why not just fix it and be done with the tags? -- Achim ( talk) 01:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello again! I saw your comment for the revert on the pix in Call entre: rv - image does nothing to improve understanding of subject of article. I thought the pix gave a more realistic view of what it's really like in a call centre, with people doing the work, rather than an empty floor with just workstations. Don't you think that people doing telemarketing in a call centre conveys a more accurate picture? -- Achim ( talk) 17:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
This looks a lot better now! Thanks! I can't get the hang of how to do that yet. Best, -- Achim ( talk) 21:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC) Barek: Article text and references are rough, and could use your ministrations. All the sources and the infobox are there. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 11:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
hi we are still not able to understand where we need clean up in this article. please reply in my talk page, thanks. Mrikapa ( talk) 21:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC) Thanks Barek for your comments, we will again review this article & come back to you for suggestions. Mrikapa ( talk) 14:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Re: BlackblotHi Barek, no it never went to AfD because I got too busy in real life, plus the fact that I didn't want to spend hours arguing with the creator of the article. I'm glad however that the issue is being resolved. - TexMurphy ( talk) 06:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Barek: This needs your editing help. Sources are in place, if you need more info. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 12:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
Barek and BK: I created this article. I don't think I should be censoring it. Plainly, there should be room for an objective point and counterpoint. Nor do I think that the article should be an apologist or defender of this particular organization. OTOH, if you would take a look at the last few edits, I would appreciate it. I toned down some of the most recent contributions, and am wondering if it accords with wiki policy. I am trying to maintain my objectivity, and the objectivity of the article. I going to send this on to BK, as I also value his opinion. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 18:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
I don't mind (and in fact encourage) local attractions. But I think this bowling alley stuff is over the top. What do you think? 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC) Stan Discussion about infobox photo at Talk:Mount RainierFeel free to join in! hike395 ( talk) 15:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC) NetzeroS'been a while since I used templates, and weasel was the only one that came to mind for some reason... NPOV is probably better, so I'll change it. Thanks. -- (Flying Ninja Monkey) (Banana!) 04:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC) Is this possible?I recently edited Carnival Conquest. I added info like the maiden voyage and when it was christened. Is it possible for a ship to go on its maiden voyage before its christening ceremony? Are my sources reliable enough? Goodvac (talk) 17:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Barek: I knew you'd be watching, and I knew you would have a good perspective. I don't really care. I do think that the link/reference to the company should stay. This is not an immaterial issue. Terry Pepper has (or at least had) the issue of getting to Big Charity Island flat out wrong. He suggested one charter a boat from Caseville. I certainly don't care if their name is in the text, and i don't want to (knowingly) violate Wiki policy. I recognize that we are not an advertising banner, but having good info on how to get to the island would be of genuine public interest. I am going to be out of town for the next week or so. I would appreciate it if you would "handle" the matter as you deem fit. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 02:16, 26 July 2008 (UTC) Stan Regarding your recent edit to LodgeHi, I noticed you reverted one of my edits to Lodge. Can you tell me what I did wrong? WinterSpw ( talk) 04:59, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
First go at it..Sorry about that..I'm a novice at templates but getting the hang of it. Hoping it proves useful. Thanks for the assistance. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ( (⊕)) 00:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
noi like messing things up. dont yell at me. i have deep emotional issues. meanie that last post was from emorocker897 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emorocker897 ( talk • contribs) CunardHi, It seemed to add a lot of photos and other information, and I didn't see the harm. I'll look a bit more closely and maybe I'll agree with you. Cheers! -- Kevin Murray ( talk) 22:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Good work. This article needs to be watched and edited carefully. Ty 06:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Uploading a PhotoHey, You replied to my blacklisting question about da Vinci Surgical Systems. Thanks for the help with that. I wanted to let you know that I'm making a wiki for a surgeon and I wanted to have his picture uploaded into the infobox. I am not autoconfirmed yet, though, because I've only made 2 or 3 edits. Can I have you upload the picture for me? I can send you the picture itself, and that would be great if you could check out its legitimacy and upload it. Thanks a bunch man. -- Nmishra9 ( talk) 16:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)nmishra9
[User:Barek|Barek]] ( talk • contribs) - 16:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
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VandalismKindly explain how my edit is vandalism. Thank yo -- 71.92.174.206 ( talk) 23:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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Re: marinas.comre: original post at User_talk:7&6=thirteen#Link_to_marinas.com and User_talk:7&6=thirteen#Marinas.com Barek: Would you please consider this and see what you think. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 19:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
Sturgeon Point Light and use of Wikipedia articlesI wrote a note to David Wobser of Boatnerd.com concerning some factual inaccuracies in one of his fine articles. He wrote to me asking if he could use the Wikipedia article. Stan, Could we just use your Wikipedia article, with credit to you? Dave Wobser Boatnerd Lighthouse Editor I wrote back as follows: David: I wrote a good part of this article, but not all of it. So I don't want undo credit. I can't speak for wikipedia. You might talk to Barek, who is an administrator and a collaborator on Wikipedia. He can tell you whatever you need to know. I think (but can't vouchsafe) that Wikipedia is open source, and can be used by anybody anytime (although I think they like being cited). So if you want to use it, it's OK with me personally, but I can't speak for them. If you have questions, contact Barek. I will send him a copy of this E-mail, as he is very knowledgable and can expedite an explanation. BTW, as you may note when you go through the articles, I've been updating the Michgian lighthouses, and you always get included as an external link. I think what you've done (the text, and especially the pictures) makes you a premier source on lighthouses Best regards. Barek, if you could pass this on to the powers that be, or directly correspond with him, I would appreciate it. His e-mail address is djwobser@boatnerd.com Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 20:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
Nike Oregon ProjectBarek, Many thanks for pulling me out of the quicksand re: those references I messed up. I was going pretty crazy there for a while, and it's great to be able to put my technical difficulties behind me. Tracktowner ( talk) 15:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Disney spam IP/ToolooseJust spotted the CU req on it - sorry if my block made it pointless :). How about a block on the IP? There really is no history of anything other than link placement (& stealing links). View welcome - cheers -- Herby talk thyme 07:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Deleted Titanic editBarek, Sources for my deleted edit, "as Jack Phillips and Harold Bride, the Marconi radio operators, were employed by Marconi and paid to relay messages to and from the passengers, they were not required to relay such "non-essential" messages" As to "as Jack Phillips and Harold Bride, the Marconi radio operators, were employed by Marconi"...I cite page 490 of "Titanic & Her Sisters Olympic & Britannic" by McCluskie/Sharpe/Marriott, page 60 of "Unsinkable - The Full Story" by Daniel Allen Butler, page 33 of "The Titanic" by Tibballs, page 52 of "Titanic - Legacy of the World's Greatest Ocean Liner" by Susan Wels, page 37 of "1912 Facts About Titanic" by Merideth As to "and paid to relay messages to and from the passengers"...I cite page 61-62 of "Unsinkable - The Full Story" by Daniel Allen Butler, page 63 of "The Titanic" by Tibballs As to "they were not required to relay such "non-essential" messages...I cite page 37 of "1912 Facts About Titanic" by Merideth, which states, "Marconi wireless operators were employed by the Marconi Company and not by the ship or its owners. The operators were contracted out and reported to their company offices first and to the ship's officers second. The operators were only required to pass information on to the crew of the ship if the information was related to an emergency..."...I cite page 20 of "The Discovery of the Titanic" by Dr. Ballard, which ..."because of the lack of coordination between the bridge and the wireless room and the absence of any standard procedure for dealing with ice warnings". I cite page 60 of "Unsinkable - The Full Story"...which "What was most noticeably lacking was standardization...no definite order in the ships' crew organisations as to where the wireless oeprator belong." as evidence that Phillips/Bride had no formal reporting structure. I cite page 66 of "The Titanic" by Tibballs as further evidence that "Phillips was apparently preoccupied with transmitting messages that had accumulated during the day." as opposed to the ice warnings. I cite page 79-80 of "Titanic - Legacy of the World's Greatest Ocean Liner" by Susan Wels...for Phillips and Bride focusing on the backlog of private commercial traffic after the wireless had been broken on Friday night...their focus was on the commercial traffic, for which they were paid (report to Marconi offices first). The "non-essential" is a hind-sight adjective (sarcasm), as these messages should have taken precedent and treated as an emergency. Howelto ( talk) 17:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)Howelto
Guild Wars mergerThe text originally posted here has been moved to Talk:Guild Wars Prophecies#Merge in order to maintain a central location for the discussion.
Hi. I'm sort of new to all this. I am the person who made the Viking River Cruises page. I worked hard to make it as factual as possible, giving the age of the company, some of its history, fleet size and particulars, and so on. I did not write a long brochure about specific itineraries Viking offers, post glamour shots of river cruising vessels or any of that--people can get that stuff from the company's website. I thought this would be useful to people who are interested in learning about the company--especially since it is privately held. Can you help me understand how the page could be improved? Is there something I could add or delete that would be helpful? Julane ( talk) 23:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Barek! I only gave 3 sentences about Mr. Hagen--I think a few biographical snippets have been published about him here and there, so I will try to find something where I can cite a reference. I did not want to create a page for him, and I don't think he would want that either. He is the company chairman and as such he sets company direction and so forth, but he is actually pretty unassuming. I have a question about finding more references. A number of travel writers have covered specific itineraries (which I was trying to avoid). Also the company has appeared on some of those "Ten Best" lists, like Travel + Leisure and Condé Nast Traveler, plus some travel agent publications like Recommend. The writeups have been quite laudatory--they actually sound a lot more like marketing brochure writing than what I put on the page. Do I need to look for material that is negatively critical so as to create the NPOV? Thanks again for your guidance. 74.62.46.90 ( talk) 00:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, a lot of "news coverage" about cruise lines is just press releases word for word--it has been a real problem. But...jackpot! I found an excellent Insight Guide about river cruises and was able to utilize some of that content, which of course has its own NPOV, in this article. I trust this new information will bring the article more in line with Wikipedia's standards. Please advise! Thank you. 74.62.46.90 ( talk) 17:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Excellent--I just went in and fixed a couple of spellings. The initial purchase of the Russian ships I think was already in the first sentence, but I put the year again. I took the liberty of adding that general "river cruise" content to the river cruise article--I hope that is okay with whoever is in charge of that page, which was flagged as needing citations. Are we "there" yet? I really can't thank you enough for your help--when you are new to something it is great to have some guidance. 74.62.46.90 ( talk) 22:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes indeed--there is a 10-digit and a 13-digit one, so I put in the 13-digit one which is apparently the latest standard and subsumes the other one. 74.62.46.90 ( talk) 00:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC) St. Mary's editBarek, thanks for fixing my clumsy handling of the St. Mary's edit. I figured out what I had done wrong and was going to post the correction, but you were too quick for me! Hal Wing ( talk) 17:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Nike Oregon Project--Disputed EditsBarek, Thanks for your help last month with my edits to this article. Unfortunately, a contributor made some edits that are either inaccurate or not cited correctly, so I undid his contribution. To keep you in the loop, I have sent you the following with the reasons for changing it back. This information is also posted on the Talk page for Nike Oregon Project. Some inaccuracies (or possibly facts that are inaccurately or improperly cited) appeared in the Leadership section (and other sections) of this article on 9/4, through the efforts of an anonymous poster [213.34.251.81]. Here is the summary of the disputed info that was added to the article on 9/4: Jerry Schumacher has joined the Nike Oregon Project itself, not a “separate group” as the IP user has written. [Source: http://www.tracktownusa.com/track.item.55/Alberto-Salazar-Brings-Jerry-Schumacher-to-Nike-Oregon-Project.html. This same information has also appeared in the Eugene Register-Guard.] Virtually all track teams and track clubs have multiple coaches (e.g., sprints, middle distance, long distance, field events), each coaching different athletes, but they are still part of the same organization. Schumacher’s runners are part of the Nike Oregon Project; they just train under Schumacher, as Salazar’s runners train under him. When the source cited by the poster as evidence of this [6] mentions two groups (on page 2), it’s in reference to Schumacher’s Wisconsin collegiate and professional runners, which are indeed two separate groups. Instead of citing a news article, the contributor makes the statement, “inside sources claim,” which doesn’t meet an acceptable standard for a source (i.e., published). Source [6] is cited as evidence that there is a plan to merge two separate groups when Salazar retires, but the source contains no mention of separate groups or such a plan. In fact, Salazar’s name does not appear even once in the article (nor mention of his retirement, of course). One of the new references [4] cited by this contributor does not exist. From the incorrect URL given [1], it appears to be a forum post rather than an actual news article anyway. All references, including the one added by the contributor-- e.g., [6]—mention that Salazar considers Schumacher the eventual successor, so the odd revision made (referring to the future succession as “speculation” rather than fact) actually makes the article more inaccurate than the previous version. The change from “Amy Yoder-Begley, a 2008 Olympian at 10,000 meters” to “Amy Yoder-Begley, and a 2008 Olympian at 10,000 meters” does not make any sense grammatically. The deletion of Tegenkamp is inexplicable as well. Just a style point, but the contributor uses “Jerry” repeatedly when referring to Schumacher, which introduces a different naming style than that used in the rest of the article. The version of Barek dated 8/16/08 is the more factually accurate version, so the content has been reverted to that. The prior citations have also been restored, since the new citations are not relevant and do not add any new factual information not present in the previous citations. Tracktowner ( talk) 02:19, 8 September 2008 (UTC) Barek: I think that a great addition to this article would be a picture of the Save Our Lights (Michigan) license plate. Ihave no idea where to find one. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 17:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC) Stan
Last two entries (as of my writing this) look to deserve reversion. As I don't possess a revert tool, I thought you could correct it. Best. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Stan
Needs an infobox. ==== Stan
Ships EnsignsSorry about all the annoyance I caused with the ship's ensigns. I've been creating a lot of infoboxes for ships (merchant and military), and from all the previous examples I'd seen I thought that having the ensign in the header was the correct way. I have added a modified template to the wikiproject:ships discussion, it would be interesting to hear what you think. Cheers, Xtrememachineuk ( talk) 21:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC) If you remove the prod tag, I think we'll have to take it to AfD. It was close enough to the border that I didn't speedy the page but I don't hold out any real hope for it. With prod, we've started a five-day clock. If it can be improved, great. If not, it's had a fair chance. (And prods can be easily undone if some later contributor has better content and sources.) Rossami (talk) 22:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC) AfD nomination of Copper Island![]()
Those were great. Just text type edit for continuity, etc. I'm outtta here & won't be back until Tuesday. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 17:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Stan Your accusationsYour accusations are uncalled for and offensive. I would like to assist in mediating the FULLY LEGITIMATE issues on Pioneer Courthouse Square. But instead you make personal and offensive insults toward me, calling me a sock puppet. I entreat you to please be reasonable and discuss the issues rather than taking vengeful inappropriate actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beenturns21 ( talk • contribs) 22:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Pioneer Courthouse SquareI am friends with user:pioneercourthouse. He reports that he is eager to mediate the issue RE: controversy over pioneer courthouse square if he is unblocked so he can have a rational discussion with you. I urge you to be open to mediation on this issue. It seems to be a reasonable request. Do not be closed minded. Mediman43 ( talk) 00:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
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Checkuser questionFYI... — Wknight94 ( talk) 02:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC) Thanks for the message. I have added the template back, but I think the Subpages link coding is broken - I don't know enough about coding to attempt a fix. Any chance you can take a look at it? Thanks! – ukexpat ( talk) 13:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
hialright? so who keeps screwing with the site? I'm trying to make it better but someone keeps reverting it. AGHHHH! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.112.63 ( talk) 20:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the Ashland High School PageNo where did it say student body presidents were notable. Its simply part of the history of the school. Details of Matt and Willy's presidency are not original thought. Im not sure if you go to AHS but improvements have been made and talked about/published in places such as the school newspaper. Im not sure if I'm doing it wrong, I've never done much wikipedia editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JakeGavin ( talk • contribs) 03:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Loyola College Rugby Football ClubThe discussion was not finished. Now you are just bullying. Interzil ( talk) 04:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
HumPotentially 3RR issues here? Cheers -- Herby talk thyme 15:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
graphic spamTax forms in the United States has the same chart of 1099 forms with the advertiser website credit posted again. It was posted anonymously this time. Would you do whatever it is that's supposed to be done? Thanks Rsmcphail ( talk) 19:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Hi there! A little bit of both, to be honest - I *do* prefer the older image, it's very striking, however it also looked like the makings of an edit war - an editor made a good faith edit (fair enough), you reverted them (fair enough), then they reinstated their changes instead of discussing. If you're happy to talk it over with them I'm happy to bow out. I do take your point about the new image; if you want to to revert me that's fine (maybe reference this discussion so it's clear we're not edit-warring). Cheers, This flag once was red 20:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Please contact meNote: The following was moved to the talk page from user:Barek. Barek this is Tobryant. I am not vandalizing your page I just dont see an email me button. can you email me at (email address removed to prevent harvesting by bots). I would like to work together with you on the Project Management definition. I wasnt trying to vandalize that page the other day i am just new to the wiki project and didn't understand why my changes kept disappearing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobryant ( talk • contribs) 14:49, October 22, 2008
AGF? Don't. Please, please don't talk to the socks anymore. The "it's so unfair" tone is the same user yanking our chain again. RBI... If it's a legit user, s/he can appeal to the powers that be via e-mail. Katr67 ( talk) 04:49, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
External LinksI read the guideline and don't understand why adding relevant external links is a problem? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levart563 ( talk • contribs) 16:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
We can agree to disagree. Have a good day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levart563 ( talk • contribs) 17:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC) Mistake DeletionSorry I deleted some content on the page Apple! I was going to edit it but I accidentaly hit the Delete key. Sorry! PS. Please reply on my talk page. Back to the MacMan32 22:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Barek: New article. Needs editing, photos, the usual. Please help. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC) Stan Focal heightThanks for addressing in such a timely and practical way the "legacy issue." U saved me a lot of work. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 20:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC) Stan
Sigh. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 18:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC) Stan Discovered this article, and I've put in the link to it (" aid to navigation") in Spectacle Reef Light. It occurs to me that lighthouse articles generally have that phrase, but that they may not have that link. If you knew someone who had a bot that could do that, it would be a good thing. I don't have any sources on my own. Could you help? I'll also ask Barek, as he might be a source. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 10:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
Revert!Thanks :) -- Herby talk thyme 17:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Thankyoucheers for making the revert to basin of the indus river sorry for all the fuss over it but sometimes its the only way to acheive neutrality have a good day freind your a ACE editor 86.158.238.187 ( talk) 20:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC) CfD nomination of Category:User BarekI have nominated Category:User Barek ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz talk 17:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Formatting?The "0" is actually okay -- whenever there's a from the editor piece, it's marked as a "0" so that it's centered on the main Signpost pages. The problem was actually a separate issue -- I made a change in {{ s-s}}, trying to fix a minor, unimportant formatting bug, and didn't realize I created a much larger one. Thanks for the heads up. Ral315 ( talk) 01:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
my warningPlease help me rather than giving warnings. In the Lavan Davis article, along with the Tyler Perry's House of Payne, and Cassi Davis articles, I and other editors have been battling a dynamic IP that apparently has a couple user accounts also. They keep adding unsourced info and copyright violating images. This user had ignored many, many warnings, and since the IP keeps changing (209.xxx.xxx.xxx), warnings to the IP are useless. Help please. Asher196 ( talk) 23:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
A Couple ThingsHave a couple of questions, I hope you can help me. The first is, I am the author for three pages so far, Vita Nelson, Moneypaper Inc and Temper of the Times. Now, I work for Ms. Nelson, she wrote me the material first hand for her page, and she owns the two companies, MP and TOTT, what can I use for sources? There's no article that's going to corroborate what she's standing here telling me about her life, you know? Second is, as you can see, I've been on the Coke, Johnson & Johnson and Bank of America pages trying to put up links. Now, these aren't advertising links, they are to a financial prospectus regarding DRIPs (Dividend Reinvestment Plans). There's nothing ad related to be able to put down that these plans exist, it's not linking to a page to buy something, it's simply informative and all of the information is 100% accurate and updated every day. Thanks for the help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 21:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Why would knowing the subject constitute a conflict of interest? Nothing in the article is promoting or advertising the subject in any way. I would have to have an intimate knowledge of the person I'm editing to begin with, and unless the person or topic I'm writing about has enough notoriety to have been covered in another arena, how would one obtain this knowledge without getting it first hand from the subject? A lack of third party sources shouldn't diminish the importance of having the subject included in wikipedia. Besides, if someone else had done this before me and gotten the information from the subject, and then I took that as a third party and made the page, that would make it more reliable? Now can you actually give me a suggestion that might help me and resolve the issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, Ms. Nelson has informed me that her biographical information can be verified at Who's Who in America and other Who's Who databases. Would that qualify as a valid source? Is that something that you guys can look at and confirm or do I need to find it and link to it myself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 16:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I signed up for a trial to Who's Who, so I'll get on that, but in the meantime, I posted three articles on the Moneypaper Inc page, from Reuters, Investment News and Kiplingers, how many sources is sufficient? Is that a good amount or should I have more? What is standard procedure? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I added three sources, I think I did it right, check it out and let me know if you would. Do I need more? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC) Also how do I make the pictures that I uploaded ok to post? I had them up on my pages and they were taken down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 14:49, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough, one more question. I received information from who's who America, they sent me Ms. Nelson's bio and all of the books she has appeared in, how can I reference that without having a website to link to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 19:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Barek, as I recall you are nautically oriented. This needs a picture. It is also kind of light on content. The 50th anniversary is within the week. If you could help, I would always appreciate it, even if no one else notices. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
Please note my talk page about my suggestion (and the response) to it being a DYK. We are not way off the 12,500 number. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
Barek, Picture please. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 12:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
ThanksFor your visit of my page and concern. [1]Cheers.-- Florentino floro ( talk) 06:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a picture of him that I linked to that would be a great addition to this article. I don't think there is a copyright issue, but you be the judge. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
ShipsMy apologies - I was merely going by what I saw in a number of other ship infoboxes. Being bold, as it were. Didn't mean to step on any toes. -- User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 19:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I really wish to hap contacted me before you went to the help desk but not worries. I think we need to move the page to Little Tahoma Peak as this is the name at GNIS and it is the policy of WikiProject Mountains to use official names. I quess that the content has to be moved back and then the destination page needs to be deleted so that a move will work. I have to stop editing now as I have an appointment. If you would like to take care of it that would be fine or I'll check to see what has happened after I get back to my computer. -- DRoll ( talk) 23:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
lesbianThis is not a web log to cite the personal recommendation of various editors. Instead of edit warring when there is controvesy and presuming what would be fine use the talk facility, which is what it is therefore, it would be better to discuss these edits. Once something is agreeD (sic) upon in the talk then change can happen. You have good intentions on the recent edit, but discuss it first. Lihaas ( talk) 12:52, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Spam?I am not quite that of newb. Welcome stuff is a bit strange. And I did ask an administrator about the link and the answer was, that is not a spam. So I added that again. Warrington ( talk) 19:04, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
But it looks like external links is not going to be a problem any more because the article will be deleted...
Re: MV Sirius StarThank you for the explanation. I based my edit of naval ship articles and didn’t realize that different standards applied to civilian ships. – Zntrip 22:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC) Excellent User Page Award
Empire AdurI've rewritten the infobox. What do you think of it now? Mjroots ( talk) 18:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Random Rule -- Random PolicingYou are the reason People hate wikipedia. If you really want to clean up promotional links than you ought to remove most all of the links on this page comparison of netbooks You don't actually want to clean up the page you want to punish one site to make yourself feel significant. Get a life my links are higher quality than the rest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.30.18 ( talk) 17:25, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Sheening:Keeping this definition: Hello Barek - I see that you have reviewed the new definition "Sheening". It is in many peoples best interest that this word sees success and I will do everything in my power to see this through. I recieved this TALK message from Malik: Sheening Hi Jillian, I understand that keeping the article about "sheening" may be important to you, but it may be contrary to some of Wikipedia's policies. I'm going to leave a note at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheening explaining the problems with the article. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz
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An invitationInterested in helping me with an historical ocean liner project that will eventually encompass quite a few new articles? See User:Maralia/Collins headquarters for an idea of scope. User:Benea has kindly agreed to help me with my first focus, the User:Maralia/SS Arctic, but as you can see, there are a lot of related articles—only two of the articles in that template even exist outside of my userspace. Would you be interested in working on the shipyard, the architect (who is very famous, having also designed America (yacht)), or perhaps one of the other Collins ships? Maralia ( talk) 16:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
ThanksHi Barek, thanks for taking the time on No. 1 (yacht), i think the assesment template also goes for the Category:Hydrogen ships. Cheers. Mion ( talk) 17:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for jumping on that so fast! Murderbike ( talk) 19:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Ship infoboxI stole the format from somebody else on the ship navbox, I think it was here: Moyie (sternwheeler). Someday I'm hoping to get the company flags or logos instead. Mtsmallwood ( talk) 00:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC) Could you actually write something here? Basketball 110 the pages I've messed up completely 19:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
re:MV v M/VHello. Yes, I'm planning on moving the rest of the WSF fleet, but not tonight. It's a little after midnight here, and I'm getting rather tired. I'll likely start working through them in the morning. Yeah, I had noticed the problem when I created a pair of articles earlier today about a couple of M/Vs, and then stumbled upon the Rhododendron when I was looking through the unassessed importance backlog. Regards, Parsecboy ( talk) 05:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
More M/VThanks for letting me know about those others. I don't have much time to get to it now, but perhaps later on in the evening I'll start working through them. How far have you gotten through the list? I might just start at the end, and work my way forwards, and we'll meet in the middle I suppose. Parsecboy ( talk) 20:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Ship articles without infoboxesI noticed that you are tagging some of these articles with {{ newinfobox}}. The proper tag is {{ Ship infobox request}}. There are two seperate categories that correspond to these templates: Category:Ship articles without infoboxes, and Category:Ship articles needing infobox conversion. - MBK 004 22:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on this -- I know it's frustrating. I just checked my watchlist and saw I'd missed your firefight. I went ahead and blacklisted the new variant of the asiafanclub link --that may calm things down a bit, I hope: This one has a lot of disruptive history:
Thanks again, -- A. B. (talk) 05:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC) blacklist of asiafanclub.comCan you please remove asiafanclub.com from the blacklist, no one has respponded to the reasons put forth why it should not be reinstated! Thank you so much! Asia Pres —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.238.124.219 ( talk) 04:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Hello Barek. Thanks for your recent cleanup work on this article, to make it less promotional. Since one of the other editors was recently blocked for 3RR, I thought it was worth reopening the previous COI complaint; see WP:COIN#FreeLife. You are welcome to add your own thoughts to that discussion. EdJohnston ( talk) 00:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC) Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to add an opinion about the external links on this article's talk page. -- SiobhanHansa 19:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC) Good pointYour comment on Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Cschiffner is important. Thanks Toddst1 ( talk) 20:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC) Commerical Postings Regarding ZAP (motor company)Thank you for your guidance. I have posted a comment on the matter on Talk:Plug-in hybrid in response to input from you and others. Mea culpa. Fbagatelleblack ( talk) 17:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
March 2008
I am going to assume good faith on this one. I really don't understand why you made that edit. You voted delete on the AfD discussion and said the article was full of original research (which it is) and yet you went back to the article and removed the AfD template (when it is not yet resolved) and added back in to the article more original research. I have no idea what to make of it. I can only assume it was an accident because it makes no sense to me at all. You want the page deleted, yet you removed the AfD template and added in more bad information. I'm totally confused. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 19:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, did not realize that there was an article on video game addiction!!! Mysteryquest ( talk) 18:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC) Celebrity name changesAbout this... not that I'd be doubt you, but my (admittedly quite cursory) search into this could not find any information that any Celebrity Cruises ship (apart from Infinity and Constellation) would have been renamed with a "Celebrity" prefix. I know their own website has a prefix for all ships, but that's not nescessarily a reliable source as company websites are known to use a prefix even if the registered name doesn't have one ( Tallink for instance). So, yeah. -- Kjet ( talk · contribs) 08:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry. I did not mean to screw up the order on the article. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 22:41, 2 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
I put in the links. Now you can write the article. :} 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan If there is already an article, I'd be happy to help. If not, please start up the article and I'll add ot it. I'm about to get on that long-awaited plane, so I won't be able to get to it till the morning light. If you go to terrypepper.com and then look up the lighthouse you want, you'll have a really good start. The Clark Historical Library (Central Michigan University) has the website (heh-heh, isn't this ironic -- sorry, but I couldn't resist) that includes the chronology, list of resources (including books, manuscripts, etc.) They may have specific stuff on the Marquette Harbor Light. That will get you started. You also have to decide whether to call it the Marquette Light, Marquette Lighthouse, Marquette Light Station, etc., since there doesn't appear to be a Marquette Harbor Light article. See the discussion at the List of U.S. lighthouses. Have fun Sweet dreams. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Stan In any event, you know where to fine the link to the CMU lighthouse article. See for example Charity Island Light. Oh, alright, here it is again Take a quick look at this, which expressly references the light: http://clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhtime1.htm Clarke Historical Library - Sources Regarding the Lighthouses of ... Marquette, MI: Northern Michigan University Press, 1979. Penrose, Laurie. A Traveler's Guide to Eastern Great Lakes Lighthouses. ... clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhsour1.htm - 15k - Cached - Similar pages Clarke Historical Library - A Light House Keeper's Life Granite Island (11 miles north of Marquette) Light constructed. .... Big Bay Point (24 miles northwest of Marquette) Light constructed. Sault Ste. ... clarke.cmich.edu/lighthouses/lhtime1.htm - 56k - Cached - Similar pages 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
Asher 196 put in the picture. I hope your happy with the article. It would be nice to find a picture that showed the promontory. Unfortunately, I don't have one. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
FYI: The link to the Clarke Historical Library is still in the Further reading section, just reformatted to match standard wiki formatting. Double check, if that's not the link you were talking about, I may have misunderstood. --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 00:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Barek: FYI, I put the specific page of the Clarke Historical Library for each county in each of the entries of the 83 Michigan counties. So you can certainly adjust away, but they're already there. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan
They say the infobox on this page is substandard. I thought you might be the one to correct that. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 02:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
Needs an infobox. Needs more info on the light itself. Terry Pepper has it. ----Stan Needs a better infobox. Thanks if you can find the time. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 01:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC) Stan Needs more info, better info box. Maybe you can beat Asher196 to it. Best. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 04:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Stan We are new to Wikipedia--and did not thoroughly study your external link guidelines--we will stop posting external links for now. I was led to post external links after seeing "Buck Owens" page which has had an external link to Rhino Entertainment (e.g. commercial site selling Buck Owens music product). How is Rhino Entertainment different than us? Why has their external link remained for weeks? We are not spammers--just ignorant of the rules. Best Camuco ( talk) 15:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)Camuco
A neutral non-COI WSEAS draft?Hi Barek, MER-C suggested I write a new WSEAS article, and I'm happy to give it a go, but I'd like access to the old versions (now nuked). Also, I am a newbie, this will be my second article, and I'd appreciate a hint on how you do this in userspace. Thanks, StaySeven ( talk) 18:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Help with the ASIA situationBarek,
My ip is 70.188.184.84, hu12 & AB was there in a heartbeat so no one can else can see it!70.188.184.84 (talk) 00:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)AP Retrieved from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asia_%28band%29"
Hey Barek, in regard to the Asia Fan Club issue, that may be a lost cause at this point, but in a larger sense, I'm concerned about the precedent this issue sets, as it seems administrators involved can't separate the idea of "punishing" the user from arguments surrounding the value of the link itself. If we're really building an encyclopedia here, we all need to be objective, especially the administrators, and I fear that this could lead down a dangerous road. Would you mind to chime on this issue? Thanks! -- Shubopshadangalang ( talk) 15:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Warren, Michigan gangsBarek: Please take a look at the talk page, discussion about gangs. The April 10 revert of the main article that I am concerned about is: XLinkBot (Talk | contribs) (16,570 bytes) (BOT--Reverting edits by 68.62.59.23 to revision 202239188 (\bmyspace\.com)) A strange entry indeed. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 19:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
Hi Barek. Thanks for cleaning up the references on the Giddy Up a Ding Dong page. TheRetroGuy ( talk) 20:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Barek: Please take a look at the talk page. There are several ambiguation problems that I know you know how to fix. Thank ou in advance. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 21:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC) Stan I would like to insert an image from a United States patent application which shows the McCoy oiler. I found it online by Googling Elijah McCoy picture. Since it is part of government documents, I don't see any copyright issues. This article would also benefit from a picture of McCoy himself, but finding one that we can use seems problematical. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
I think the article needs to be renamed for reasons I've put in the talk page. This is seriously wrong. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 18:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
New article, more or less finished. Please edit it in your usual fashion. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
The magic box (not the info box) is that big blue area with all the magic citations at the bottom. If you click on the last reference I inserted, you will not that the references/footnotes seem to appear in the magic box, and that you can't access the reference at all. If you take a look at the magic box, you will note that it has a group of letters (footnotes) in its upper left hand corner, which obviously don't belong there. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
You are right. They all work. I must have clicked on something in error. Err, 'Excuse the ring, please.' 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Stan I just made some changes to this page and noticed you have edited my text, including removing some of it. Some of your changes cleaned up mine, but I'm wondering why you deleted some of my text, especially discussion about rider's views of removal of the ferries, which is accurate. Do you work for WSF? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.165.7.19 ( talk • contribs) 13:51, April 20, 2008
Barak, thanks for clarifying these points. I'm new to this. Though I understand your point, and will abide by your knowledge of the wikipedia standards, I have to say that the source would be myself and conversations I've heard from other passengers and crew on this run. My point was not to add weasel words, but I feel that these questions and comments from ferry passengers raise important issues about the removal of these ferries from service. David. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.165.7.19 ( talk • contribs) 18:26, April 20, 2008
Barek: I'm sure you looked at Terry Pepper's explanation, which is lucid, but not as detailed as the following that I found on line at New England Lighthouse Wallpager Guide to Lewis Patent Lamps and Spherical Reflectors: Lewis Patent Lamps and Spherical ReflectorsWinslow Lewis, a former ship captain from Wellfleet, Cape Cod, patented his version of the Argand Lamp on June 8, 1810 and sold his “reflecting and magnifying lantern” patent to United States Government just prior to the War of 1812. Although the Lewis Patent Lamp required only half of the oil used by Spider Lamps, the intensity of his lamp was 400 times less that of the Argand Lamp used in Europe. Lewis promoted his device as a “magnifying and reflector lantern” claiming the system was a combined Lamp and magnifier with reflectors. In a effort to increase the lamp’s intensity, Lewis placed a lens, a “magnifier” made from a 4-inch diameter green bottle glass, in front of the flame to focus the straying beams of light. His “magnifier” accumulated soot immediately further dimming the Light and was later removed. Lewis lamps required constant adjustment and cleaning due to the inadequate draft and defective brass gears. The design of his silvered plated copper reflectors was another reason why his Lewis Patent Lamp was less effective than the Argand Lamp. The reflector’s silver finish was too thin to withstand abrasive cleaning and the thin copper could not hold its original parabolic shape when exposed to the heat of illumination. As a result, Lewis reflectors were altered into a spherical shape and the worn down reflective silver finish scarcely reflected the Lamp’s light. The spherical reflectors were inferior to the parabolic reflectors used behind Argand Lamps. The Lewis Patent Lamp was basically a poorly modified version of the Argand Lamp and parabolic reflectors. As one inspector noted the “magnifier” “made a bad light worse,” yet Lewis did not argue with his critics. He used the economy of the Lamp emphasizing the 50% oil savings over the Argand Lamps. In 1812, Congress approved the first contract for the maintenance of Lighthouses authorizing Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin, to purchase Winslow Lewis’ patent Lamps with Winslow Lewis refitting all Lighthouses in the United States with Lewis patent Lamps and to keep the new lantern system repaired. There are different accounts* of how Winslow Lewis was able to install a inferior Lamp system in American Lighthouses. According to Federal Law, contracts were awarded to the Contractor with the lowest offer as noted by Stephen Pleasonton, Fifth Auditor of the Treasury Department and federal administrator of U.S. Lighthouses. Winslow Lewis strongly promoted his own system of lighting and was frequently awarded contracts due to his low bids. In 1817, Winslow Lewis listed and described all American Lighthouses and noted his method of Lighting consumed 24,731 gallons of oil annually whereas the annual consumption of the prior oil Lamps was 52,000 gallons. A 52% fuel savings was most likely the major reason why a new developing nation approved the Lewis’ Lighting contract.
Author’s Note: The law mandating the acceptance of the lowest offer was either a blessing or a curse. Many Lighthouses were built to stand the test of time with diverse Architectural styles using aesthetic functional structures. Unfortunately, many Lighthouses were first built using poor construction and poor engineering practices resulting in a constant state of disrepair. In addition, this law was a reasonable way for a recently formed government to be cost effective. Winslow Lewis became the main Lighthouse Contractor for 30 years after rebuilding Frank’s Island Lighthouse (July 1818- March 1823) despite some questionable work done on the original structure by his sub-contractors, Benjamin Beal and Duncan Thaxter (1). After the dilemma of Franks Island Lighthouse, Winslow Lewis formed an alliance with Stephen Pleasonton, the Fifth Auditor of the Treasury and U.S. Lighthouse administrator (1820-1852) by winning contracts to build Conical Brick Lighthouses cheaply. Winslow Lewis consistently submitted the lowest bids and there was no “hard” evidence of illegal dealings between Lewis and Pleasonton (2). Winslow Lewis ignorance of engineering caused most of his Lighthouses to be replaced by taller structurally sound structures. Although his nephews allegations were incriminating and Lewis Patent Lamps were poorly designed and manufactured, research has yet to find evidence that he violated federal law. Stephen Pleasonton was given an administrative task that was outside his accounting knowledge. With no engineering background, Pleasonton awarded contracts to the lowest bidder per the law yet he was unable to verify the contractor’s qualifications. Congress later corrected these problems by creating a Board with experts from every trade involved in constructing Lighthouses. For 40 years**, American Lighting technology did not improve due in part to the cost of expensive European Lighting and whether existing Towers were built to structurally support the additional weight of the lens (a First-order Fresnel lens assembly can weigh up to 3-tons and was priced at $12,000 shipped in 1841). In addition, Winslow Lewis lobbied successfully to protect his Lighting System. In 1851, Congress ordered a investigation of the nation’s aids to navigation after receiving numerous strong complaints about the poor quality of America’s lighthouses, specifically the lights. Interestingly, Congress authorized two Fresnel lenses for testing in 1838 and the Navesink Twin Lights were refitted with First-order Fresnel lenses in 1841. Nine more years elapsed before the second Lighthouse was fitted with a Fresnel lens. After the successful tests, the Fresnel lens was not installed in the remaining Lighthouses until Pleasonton was replaced by he U.S. Light-House Board. Pleasonton insisted most keepers could not operate the new complex system and additional testing was required. On October 9, 1852, Congress established a nine member Lighthouse Board in response to the investigation that uncovered the poor condition of American Lighthouses. The Board included two Army Engineer Corps officers, two Navy officers, two Topographical Engineers officers, two scientists, and the Secretary of the Treasury who served as President of the Board. This team of specialists acted immediately in using new technology and all Lighthouses were refitted with Fresnel lenses by the time of the Civil War. The new lens system was three times the cost of the Lewis Lamp system yet the efficiency of the Fresnel lens assembly reduced fuel costs by 75% on average since only one oil lamp was needed whereas the Lewis system required many oil lamps. The major advantage of Fresnel Lenses was a 400% increase in the intensity of the focused beam of light over the Lewis Lamp system (Catoptric light). Eighty-three percent of the light is lost at the top and and bottom of a Catoptric light whereas a Fresnel catadioptric system collects and redirects 83% of the light into a focused horizontal beam.
(1) Benjamin Latrobe’s Designs for a Lighthouse at the Mouth of the Mississippi River by Michael W. Fazio The Journal of the Society of Architectural Historians, Vol. 48, No. 3 (Sep., 1989), pp. 232-247 (2) America’s Lighthouses: An Illustrated History by Francis Ross Holland, Jr. - Page 16 I would say that Pepper and this article basically agree. Had you seen that? Does that help? 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 01:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
I hope you don't mind...I saw your date/time box on your page and thought it looked nice. I copied the code to one of my pages. I hope that's ok with you. JodyB talk 22:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
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F3 ClassLeft a msg for you on my talk page. -- OneCyclone ( talk) 20:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC) Trying to prevent malicious postings by Hu12Can you advise how best to deal with this? I originally made my notations after his postings and he deleted those. Hu12 has been aggressively maligning me and my postings as well as other articles where the clear concensus on those individual articles is against him. What recourse do I have to make him stop? Urbanrenewal ( talk) 00:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Tried writing a reply first and Hu12 removed that as well. Fairly frustrating seeing my username on a spam list for really no reason Urbanrenewal ( talk) 00:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks I will try that. Urbanrenewal ( talk) 00:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Revised links (gjenvick.com) yield error 404..at least the few I tried do. -- CliffC ( talk) 04:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you :-)thank you for reverting my user page :-) SomeUsr | Talk Contribs 22:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Barek: We got a B from the Ships committee. Whoopee! Museums and the others got us up to a START. Anyway, happy editing. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
The following external link was inserted in this article. I would suspect it is the first of many occasions when we will see this commercial link. Mid-Michigan Ads Maybe you know what to do. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 02:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Stan
Your revert on Irritable bowel syndromeDear Barek, are you familiar with WP:MOS and WP:MEDMOS? The intro is supposed to be a brief summary of the following sections, so mentioning things that are expanded on later in the article is not a bad thing. Also, the article intro was too short; I may have made it too long, but then you should shorten it down to an appropriate length, not simply revert me. Finally, since me edit clearly was well-considered and well-intended, it might have been more appropriate to discuss first or explain your concerns. I hope to see your constructive comments and edits, kind regards, -- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 23:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
ANI PostYou were not in violation of 3RR. Your reverts fell under the spectrum of anti-vandalism. I thank you for being honest and keep up the good anti-vandalism work. Rgoodermote 21:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Barek: Haven't heard from you in a while. Hope all is doing well. If this were put down on the right side at the bottom by external links, I think it would look great, and would materially add to the article. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/marquetteOld.JPG Just a thought. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 18:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
I think the image placement balances out the article very nicely. Good job! 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 16:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Stan Barek: Would you take a look at this. Likewise, this picture http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/graniteisland.JPG might be good if it were on the right side on the external links area. Take a look and see what you think. Thanks. 15:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
Barek: Here's another one. USCG photo might be good. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/bigbaypoint.JPG Could go down on the right by External links 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 16:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC) Stan http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/fortgratiot.JPG 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 11:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Stan One of these national park service pictures should help. http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/hiawatha/recreation/lighthouses/point_iroquois_light/index.php?action=showtable Stan http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/pointauxbarques.JPG What do you think. I'll be gone for a few days. Take care. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 01:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC) Stan http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/copperharbor.JPG I think that this historical coast guard photo belongs in there somewhere. Take a look and see what you think. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 22:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Stan The form of this article is a mess. Can you help? 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 14:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
This one is more or less done. It could use a vintage coast guard photo, which is on their website. Here is the link. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBLIGHTHOUSES/bigsable.JPG. Please feel free to edit your heart out. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 12:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC) Stan In reply to your commentHi, after I made the changes this morning I was wondering the same thing about the 'see also' section and the 'external links'. I went to other articles to compare and found it was being done both ways, external sections and also adding external links to the see also sections. So I too am baffled with this. I will ask an administrator who is my mentor to fill me in on this and then I will let you know too. I have no problems though if you revert or change what I did so don't worry about that. I actually got to this by a spammer who was spamming a bunch of articles in both sections, which I then realized the differences. Give me some time and I will contact Delldot right now, she is really pretty quick in responding and gives real good explanations on these kinds of questions. If you find out anything before me, I would appreciate it if you would pop over and tell me too. Thanks,-- CrohnieGal Talk 17:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Reference form problem. I know you can make this better. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 15:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC) Stan This article could use some help, if you can find the time. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Stan The references, links and infobox are there. All we're missing is actually credible text. If you can find the time. Happy 4th of July! 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Stan You know, this was a good catch, but why don't you just fix it instead of tagging? I would have put it into the numbered reference deal below, but I haven't figured out how to do that yet. I put in references because it was tagged. So now you tag it again. Why not just fix it and be done with the tags? -- Achim ( talk) 01:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello again! I saw your comment for the revert on the pix in Call entre: rv - image does nothing to improve understanding of subject of article. I thought the pix gave a more realistic view of what it's really like in a call centre, with people doing the work, rather than an empty floor with just workstations. Don't you think that people doing telemarketing in a call centre conveys a more accurate picture? -- Achim ( talk) 17:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
This looks a lot better now! Thanks! I can't get the hang of how to do that yet. Best, -- Achim ( talk) 21:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC) Barek: Article text and references are rough, and could use your ministrations. All the sources and the infobox are there. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 11:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC) Stan
hi we are still not able to understand where we need clean up in this article. please reply in my talk page, thanks. Mrikapa ( talk) 21:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC) Thanks Barek for your comments, we will again review this article & come back to you for suggestions. Mrikapa ( talk) 14:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Re: BlackblotHi Barek, no it never went to AfD because I got too busy in real life, plus the fact that I didn't want to spend hours arguing with the creator of the article. I'm glad however that the issue is being resolved. - TexMurphy ( talk) 06:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Barek: This needs your editing help. Sources are in place, if you need more info. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 12:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
Barek and BK: I created this article. I don't think I should be censoring it. Plainly, there should be room for an objective point and counterpoint. Nor do I think that the article should be an apologist or defender of this particular organization. OTOH, if you would take a look at the last few edits, I would appreciate it. I toned down some of the most recent contributions, and am wondering if it accords with wiki policy. I am trying to maintain my objectivity, and the objectivity of the article. I going to send this on to BK, as I also value his opinion. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 18:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC) Stan
I don't mind (and in fact encourage) local attractions. But I think this bowling alley stuff is over the top. What do you think? 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC) Stan Discussion about infobox photo at Talk:Mount RainierFeel free to join in! hike395 ( talk) 15:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC) NetzeroS'been a while since I used templates, and weasel was the only one that came to mind for some reason... NPOV is probably better, so I'll change it. Thanks. -- (Flying Ninja Monkey) (Banana!) 04:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC) Is this possible?I recently edited Carnival Conquest. I added info like the maiden voyage and when it was christened. Is it possible for a ship to go on its maiden voyage before its christening ceremony? Are my sources reliable enough? Goodvac (talk) 17:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Barek: I knew you'd be watching, and I knew you would have a good perspective. I don't really care. I do think that the link/reference to the company should stay. This is not an immaterial issue. Terry Pepper has (or at least had) the issue of getting to Big Charity Island flat out wrong. He suggested one charter a boat from Caseville. I certainly don't care if their name is in the text, and i don't want to (knowingly) violate Wiki policy. I recognize that we are not an advertising banner, but having good info on how to get to the island would be of genuine public interest. I am going to be out of town for the next week or so. I would appreciate it if you would "handle" the matter as you deem fit. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 02:16, 26 July 2008 (UTC) Stan Regarding your recent edit to LodgeHi, I noticed you reverted one of my edits to Lodge. Can you tell me what I did wrong? WinterSpw ( talk) 04:59, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
First go at it..Sorry about that..I'm a novice at templates but getting the hang of it. Hoping it proves useful. Thanks for the assistance. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ( (⊕)) 00:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
noi like messing things up. dont yell at me. i have deep emotional issues. meanie that last post was from emorocker897 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emorocker897 ( talk • contribs) CunardHi, It seemed to add a lot of photos and other information, and I didn't see the harm. I'll look a bit more closely and maybe I'll agree with you. Cheers! -- Kevin Murray ( talk) 22:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Good work. This article needs to be watched and edited carefully. Ty 06:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Uploading a PhotoHey, You replied to my blacklisting question about da Vinci Surgical Systems. Thanks for the help with that. I wanted to let you know that I'm making a wiki for a surgeon and I wanted to have his picture uploaded into the infobox. I am not autoconfirmed yet, though, because I've only made 2 or 3 edits. Can I have you upload the picture for me? I can send you the picture itself, and that would be great if you could check out its legitimacy and upload it. Thanks a bunch man. -- Nmishra9 ( talk) 16:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)nmishra9
[User:Barek|Barek]] ( talk • contribs) - 16:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
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VandalismKindly explain how my edit is vandalism. Thank yo -- 71.92.174.206 ( talk) 23:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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Re: marinas.comre: original post at User_talk:7&6=thirteen#Link_to_marinas.com and User_talk:7&6=thirteen#Marinas.com Barek: Would you please consider this and see what you think. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 19:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
Sturgeon Point Light and use of Wikipedia articlesI wrote a note to David Wobser of Boatnerd.com concerning some factual inaccuracies in one of his fine articles. He wrote to me asking if he could use the Wikipedia article. Stan, Could we just use your Wikipedia article, with credit to you? Dave Wobser Boatnerd Lighthouse Editor I wrote back as follows: David: I wrote a good part of this article, but not all of it. So I don't want undo credit. I can't speak for wikipedia. You might talk to Barek, who is an administrator and a collaborator on Wikipedia. He can tell you whatever you need to know. I think (but can't vouchsafe) that Wikipedia is open source, and can be used by anybody anytime (although I think they like being cited). So if you want to use it, it's OK with me personally, but I can't speak for them. If you have questions, contact Barek. I will send him a copy of this E-mail, as he is very knowledgable and can expedite an explanation. BTW, as you may note when you go through the articles, I've been updating the Michgian lighthouses, and you always get included as an external link. I think what you've done (the text, and especially the pictures) makes you a premier source on lighthouses Best regards. Barek, if you could pass this on to the powers that be, or directly correspond with him, I would appreciate it. His e-mail address is djwobser@boatnerd.com Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 20:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Stan
Nike Oregon ProjectBarek, Many thanks for pulling me out of the quicksand re: those references I messed up. I was going pretty crazy there for a while, and it's great to be able to put my technical difficulties behind me. Tracktowner ( talk) 15:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Disney spam IP/ToolooseJust spotted the CU req on it - sorry if my block made it pointless :). How about a block on the IP? There really is no history of anything other than link placement (& stealing links). View welcome - cheers -- Herby talk thyme 07:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Deleted Titanic editBarek, Sources for my deleted edit, "as Jack Phillips and Harold Bride, the Marconi radio operators, were employed by Marconi and paid to relay messages to and from the passengers, they were not required to relay such "non-essential" messages" As to "as Jack Phillips and Harold Bride, the Marconi radio operators, were employed by Marconi"...I cite page 490 of "Titanic & Her Sisters Olympic & Britannic" by McCluskie/Sharpe/Marriott, page 60 of "Unsinkable - The Full Story" by Daniel Allen Butler, page 33 of "The Titanic" by Tibballs, page 52 of "Titanic - Legacy of the World's Greatest Ocean Liner" by Susan Wels, page 37 of "1912 Facts About Titanic" by Merideth As to "and paid to relay messages to and from the passengers"...I cite page 61-62 of "Unsinkable - The Full Story" by Daniel Allen Butler, page 63 of "The Titanic" by Tibballs As to "they were not required to relay such "non-essential" messages...I cite page 37 of "1912 Facts About Titanic" by Merideth, which states, "Marconi wireless operators were employed by the Marconi Company and not by the ship or its owners. The operators were contracted out and reported to their company offices first and to the ship's officers second. The operators were only required to pass information on to the crew of the ship if the information was related to an emergency..."...I cite page 20 of "The Discovery of the Titanic" by Dr. Ballard, which ..."because of the lack of coordination between the bridge and the wireless room and the absence of any standard procedure for dealing with ice warnings". I cite page 60 of "Unsinkable - The Full Story"...which "What was most noticeably lacking was standardization...no definite order in the ships' crew organisations as to where the wireless oeprator belong." as evidence that Phillips/Bride had no formal reporting structure. I cite page 66 of "The Titanic" by Tibballs as further evidence that "Phillips was apparently preoccupied with transmitting messages that had accumulated during the day." as opposed to the ice warnings. I cite page 79-80 of "Titanic - Legacy of the World's Greatest Ocean Liner" by Susan Wels...for Phillips and Bride focusing on the backlog of private commercial traffic after the wireless had been broken on Friday night...their focus was on the commercial traffic, for which they were paid (report to Marconi offices first). The "non-essential" is a hind-sight adjective (sarcasm), as these messages should have taken precedent and treated as an emergency. Howelto ( talk) 17:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)Howelto
Guild Wars mergerThe text originally posted here has been moved to Talk:Guild Wars Prophecies#Merge in order to maintain a central location for the discussion.
Hi. I'm sort of new to all this. I am the person who made the Viking River Cruises page. I worked hard to make it as factual as possible, giving the age of the company, some of its history, fleet size and particulars, and so on. I did not write a long brochure about specific itineraries Viking offers, post glamour shots of river cruising vessels or any of that--people can get that stuff from the company's website. I thought this would be useful to people who are interested in learning about the company--especially since it is privately held. Can you help me understand how the page could be improved? Is there something I could add or delete that would be helpful? Julane ( talk) 23:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Barek! I only gave 3 sentences about Mr. Hagen--I think a few biographical snippets have been published about him here and there, so I will try to find something where I can cite a reference. I did not want to create a page for him, and I don't think he would want that either. He is the company chairman and as such he sets company direction and so forth, but he is actually pretty unassuming. I have a question about finding more references. A number of travel writers have covered specific itineraries (which I was trying to avoid). Also the company has appeared on some of those "Ten Best" lists, like Travel + Leisure and Condé Nast Traveler, plus some travel agent publications like Recommend. The writeups have been quite laudatory--they actually sound a lot more like marketing brochure writing than what I put on the page. Do I need to look for material that is negatively critical so as to create the NPOV? Thanks again for your guidance. 74.62.46.90 ( talk) 00:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, a lot of "news coverage" about cruise lines is just press releases word for word--it has been a real problem. But...jackpot! I found an excellent Insight Guide about river cruises and was able to utilize some of that content, which of course has its own NPOV, in this article. I trust this new information will bring the article more in line with Wikipedia's standards. Please advise! Thank you. 74.62.46.90 ( talk) 17:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Excellent--I just went in and fixed a couple of spellings. The initial purchase of the Russian ships I think was already in the first sentence, but I put the year again. I took the liberty of adding that general "river cruise" content to the river cruise article--I hope that is okay with whoever is in charge of that page, which was flagged as needing citations. Are we "there" yet? I really can't thank you enough for your help--when you are new to something it is great to have some guidance. 74.62.46.90 ( talk) 22:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes indeed--there is a 10-digit and a 13-digit one, so I put in the 13-digit one which is apparently the latest standard and subsumes the other one. 74.62.46.90 ( talk) 00:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC) St. Mary's editBarek, thanks for fixing my clumsy handling of the St. Mary's edit. I figured out what I had done wrong and was going to post the correction, but you were too quick for me! Hal Wing ( talk) 17:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Nike Oregon Project--Disputed EditsBarek, Thanks for your help last month with my edits to this article. Unfortunately, a contributor made some edits that are either inaccurate or not cited correctly, so I undid his contribution. To keep you in the loop, I have sent you the following with the reasons for changing it back. This information is also posted on the Talk page for Nike Oregon Project. Some inaccuracies (or possibly facts that are inaccurately or improperly cited) appeared in the Leadership section (and other sections) of this article on 9/4, through the efforts of an anonymous poster [213.34.251.81]. Here is the summary of the disputed info that was added to the article on 9/4: Jerry Schumacher has joined the Nike Oregon Project itself, not a “separate group” as the IP user has written. [Source: http://www.tracktownusa.com/track.item.55/Alberto-Salazar-Brings-Jerry-Schumacher-to-Nike-Oregon-Project.html. This same information has also appeared in the Eugene Register-Guard.] Virtually all track teams and track clubs have multiple coaches (e.g., sprints, middle distance, long distance, field events), each coaching different athletes, but they are still part of the same organization. Schumacher’s runners are part of the Nike Oregon Project; they just train under Schumacher, as Salazar’s runners train under him. When the source cited by the poster as evidence of this [6] mentions two groups (on page 2), it’s in reference to Schumacher’s Wisconsin collegiate and professional runners, which are indeed two separate groups. Instead of citing a news article, the contributor makes the statement, “inside sources claim,” which doesn’t meet an acceptable standard for a source (i.e., published). Source [6] is cited as evidence that there is a plan to merge two separate groups when Salazar retires, but the source contains no mention of separate groups or such a plan. In fact, Salazar’s name does not appear even once in the article (nor mention of his retirement, of course). One of the new references [4] cited by this contributor does not exist. From the incorrect URL given [1], it appears to be a forum post rather than an actual news article anyway. All references, including the one added by the contributor-- e.g., [6]—mention that Salazar considers Schumacher the eventual successor, so the odd revision made (referring to the future succession as “speculation” rather than fact) actually makes the article more inaccurate than the previous version. The change from “Amy Yoder-Begley, a 2008 Olympian at 10,000 meters” to “Amy Yoder-Begley, and a 2008 Olympian at 10,000 meters” does not make any sense grammatically. The deletion of Tegenkamp is inexplicable as well. Just a style point, but the contributor uses “Jerry” repeatedly when referring to Schumacher, which introduces a different naming style than that used in the rest of the article. The version of Barek dated 8/16/08 is the more factually accurate version, so the content has been reverted to that. The prior citations have also been restored, since the new citations are not relevant and do not add any new factual information not present in the previous citations. Tracktowner ( talk) 02:19, 8 September 2008 (UTC) Barek: I think that a great addition to this article would be a picture of the Save Our Lights (Michigan) license plate. Ihave no idea where to find one. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 17:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC) Stan
Last two entries (as of my writing this) look to deserve reversion. As I don't possess a revert tool, I thought you could correct it. Best. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 00:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Stan
Needs an infobox. ==== Stan
Ships EnsignsSorry about all the annoyance I caused with the ship's ensigns. I've been creating a lot of infoboxes for ships (merchant and military), and from all the previous examples I'd seen I thought that having the ensign in the header was the correct way. I have added a modified template to the wikiproject:ships discussion, it would be interesting to hear what you think. Cheers, Xtrememachineuk ( talk) 21:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC) If you remove the prod tag, I think we'll have to take it to AfD. It was close enough to the border that I didn't speedy the page but I don't hold out any real hope for it. With prod, we've started a five-day clock. If it can be improved, great. If not, it's had a fair chance. (And prods can be easily undone if some later contributor has better content and sources.) Rossami (talk) 22:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC) AfD nomination of Copper Island![]()
Those were great. Just text type edit for continuity, etc. I'm outtta here & won't be back until Tuesday. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 17:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Stan Your accusationsYour accusations are uncalled for and offensive. I would like to assist in mediating the FULLY LEGITIMATE issues on Pioneer Courthouse Square. But instead you make personal and offensive insults toward me, calling me a sock puppet. I entreat you to please be reasonable and discuss the issues rather than taking vengeful inappropriate actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beenturns21 ( talk • contribs) 22:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Pioneer Courthouse SquareI am friends with user:pioneercourthouse. He reports that he is eager to mediate the issue RE: controversy over pioneer courthouse square if he is unblocked so he can have a rational discussion with you. I urge you to be open to mediation on this issue. It seems to be a reasonable request. Do not be closed minded. Mediman43 ( talk) 00:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
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Checkuser questionFYI... — Wknight94 ( talk) 02:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC) Thanks for the message. I have added the template back, but I think the Subpages link coding is broken - I don't know enough about coding to attempt a fix. Any chance you can take a look at it? Thanks! – ukexpat ( talk) 13:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
hialright? so who keeps screwing with the site? I'm trying to make it better but someone keeps reverting it. AGHHHH! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.112.63 ( talk) 20:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the Ashland High School PageNo where did it say student body presidents were notable. Its simply part of the history of the school. Details of Matt and Willy's presidency are not original thought. Im not sure if you go to AHS but improvements have been made and talked about/published in places such as the school newspaper. Im not sure if I'm doing it wrong, I've never done much wikipedia editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JakeGavin ( talk • contribs) 03:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Loyola College Rugby Football ClubThe discussion was not finished. Now you are just bullying. Interzil ( talk) 04:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
HumPotentially 3RR issues here? Cheers -- Herby talk thyme 15:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
graphic spamTax forms in the United States has the same chart of 1099 forms with the advertiser website credit posted again. It was posted anonymously this time. Would you do whatever it is that's supposed to be done? Thanks Rsmcphail ( talk) 19:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Hi there! A little bit of both, to be honest - I *do* prefer the older image, it's very striking, however it also looked like the makings of an edit war - an editor made a good faith edit (fair enough), you reverted them (fair enough), then they reinstated their changes instead of discussing. If you're happy to talk it over with them I'm happy to bow out. I do take your point about the new image; if you want to to revert me that's fine (maybe reference this discussion so it's clear we're not edit-warring). Cheers, This flag once was red 20:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Please contact meNote: The following was moved to the talk page from user:Barek. Barek this is Tobryant. I am not vandalizing your page I just dont see an email me button. can you email me at (email address removed to prevent harvesting by bots). I would like to work together with you on the Project Management definition. I wasnt trying to vandalize that page the other day i am just new to the wiki project and didn't understand why my changes kept disappearing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobryant ( talk • contribs) 14:49, October 22, 2008
AGF? Don't. Please, please don't talk to the socks anymore. The "it's so unfair" tone is the same user yanking our chain again. RBI... If it's a legit user, s/he can appeal to the powers that be via e-mail. Katr67 ( talk) 04:49, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
External LinksI read the guideline and don't understand why adding relevant external links is a problem? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levart563 ( talk • contribs) 16:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
We can agree to disagree. Have a good day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levart563 ( talk • contribs) 17:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC) Mistake DeletionSorry I deleted some content on the page Apple! I was going to edit it but I accidentaly hit the Delete key. Sorry! PS. Please reply on my talk page. Back to the MacMan32 22:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Barek: New article. Needs editing, photos, the usual. Please help. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC) Stan Focal heightThanks for addressing in such a timely and practical way the "legacy issue." U saved me a lot of work. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 20:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC) Stan
Sigh. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 18:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC) Stan Discovered this article, and I've put in the link to it (" aid to navigation") in Spectacle Reef Light. It occurs to me that lighthouse articles generally have that phrase, but that they may not have that link. If you knew someone who had a bot that could do that, it would be a good thing. I don't have any sources on my own. Could you help? I'll also ask Barek, as he might be a source. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 10:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
Revert!Thanks :) -- Herby talk thyme 17:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Thankyoucheers for making the revert to basin of the indus river sorry for all the fuss over it but sometimes its the only way to acheive neutrality have a good day freind your a ACE editor 86.158.238.187 ( talk) 20:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC) CfD nomination of Category:User BarekI have nominated Category:User Barek ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz talk 17:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Formatting?The "0" is actually okay -- whenever there's a from the editor piece, it's marked as a "0" so that it's centered on the main Signpost pages. The problem was actually a separate issue -- I made a change in {{ s-s}}, trying to fix a minor, unimportant formatting bug, and didn't realize I created a much larger one. Thanks for the heads up. Ral315 ( talk) 01:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
my warningPlease help me rather than giving warnings. In the Lavan Davis article, along with the Tyler Perry's House of Payne, and Cassi Davis articles, I and other editors have been battling a dynamic IP that apparently has a couple user accounts also. They keep adding unsourced info and copyright violating images. This user had ignored many, many warnings, and since the IP keeps changing (209.xxx.xxx.xxx), warnings to the IP are useless. Help please. Asher196 ( talk) 23:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
A Couple ThingsHave a couple of questions, I hope you can help me. The first is, I am the author for three pages so far, Vita Nelson, Moneypaper Inc and Temper of the Times. Now, I work for Ms. Nelson, she wrote me the material first hand for her page, and she owns the two companies, MP and TOTT, what can I use for sources? There's no article that's going to corroborate what she's standing here telling me about her life, you know? Second is, as you can see, I've been on the Coke, Johnson & Johnson and Bank of America pages trying to put up links. Now, these aren't advertising links, they are to a financial prospectus regarding DRIPs (Dividend Reinvestment Plans). There's nothing ad related to be able to put down that these plans exist, it's not linking to a page to buy something, it's simply informative and all of the information is 100% accurate and updated every day. Thanks for the help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 21:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Why would knowing the subject constitute a conflict of interest? Nothing in the article is promoting or advertising the subject in any way. I would have to have an intimate knowledge of the person I'm editing to begin with, and unless the person or topic I'm writing about has enough notoriety to have been covered in another arena, how would one obtain this knowledge without getting it first hand from the subject? A lack of third party sources shouldn't diminish the importance of having the subject included in wikipedia. Besides, if someone else had done this before me and gotten the information from the subject, and then I took that as a third party and made the page, that would make it more reliable? Now can you actually give me a suggestion that might help me and resolve the issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, Ms. Nelson has informed me that her biographical information can be verified at Who's Who in America and other Who's Who databases. Would that qualify as a valid source? Is that something that you guys can look at and confirm or do I need to find it and link to it myself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 16:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I signed up for a trial to Who's Who, so I'll get on that, but in the meantime, I posted three articles on the Moneypaper Inc page, from Reuters, Investment News and Kiplingers, how many sources is sufficient? Is that a good amount or should I have more? What is standard procedure? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I added three sources, I think I did it right, check it out and let me know if you would. Do I need more? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC) Also how do I make the pictures that I uploaded ok to post? I had them up on my pages and they were taken down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 14:49, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough, one more question. I received information from who's who America, they sent me Ms. Nelson's bio and all of the books she has appeared in, how can I reference that without having a website to link to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftermidmusic ( talk • contribs) 19:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Barek, as I recall you are nautically oriented. This needs a picture. It is also kind of light on content. The 50th anniversary is within the week. If you could help, I would always appreciate it, even if no one else notices. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 23:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
Please note my talk page about my suggestion (and the response) to it being a DYK. We are not way off the 12,500 number. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
Barek, Picture please. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 12:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
ThanksFor your visit of my page and concern. [1]Cheers.-- Florentino floro ( talk) 06:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a picture of him that I linked to that would be a great addition to this article. I don't think there is a copyright issue, but you be the judge. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 13:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC) Stan
ShipsMy apologies - I was merely going by what I saw in a number of other ship infoboxes. Being bold, as it were. Didn't mean to step on any toes. -- User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 19:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I really wish to hap contacted me before you went to the help desk but not worries. I think we need to move the page to Little Tahoma Peak as this is the name at GNIS and it is the policy of WikiProject Mountains to use official names. I quess that the content has to be moved back and then the destination page needs to be deleted so that a move will work. I have to stop editing now as I have an appointment. If you would like to take care of it that would be fine or I'll check to see what has happened after I get back to my computer. -- DRoll ( talk) 23:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
lesbianThis is not a web log to cite the personal recommendation of various editors. Instead of edit warring when there is controvesy and presuming what would be fine use the talk facility, which is what it is therefore, it would be better to discuss these edits. Once something is agreeD (sic) upon in the talk then change can happen. You have good intentions on the recent edit, but discuss it first. Lihaas ( talk) 12:52, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Spam?I am not quite that of newb. Welcome stuff is a bit strange. And I did ask an administrator about the link and the answer was, that is not a spam. So I added that again. Warrington ( talk) 19:04, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
But it looks like external links is not going to be a problem any more because the article will be deleted...
Re: MV Sirius StarThank you for the explanation. I based my edit of naval ship articles and didn’t realize that different standards applied to civilian ships. – Zntrip 22:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC) Excellent User Page Award
Empire AdurI've rewritten the infobox. What do you think of it now? Mjroots ( talk) 18:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Random Rule -- Random PolicingYou are the reason People hate wikipedia. If you really want to clean up promotional links than you ought to remove most all of the links on this page comparison of netbooks You don't actually want to clean up the page you want to punish one site to make yourself feel significant. Get a life my links are higher quality than the rest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.30.18 ( talk) 17:25, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Sheening:Keeping this definition: Hello Barek - I see that you have reviewed the new definition "Sheening". It is in many peoples best interest that this word sees success and I will do everything in my power to see this through. I recieved this TALK message from Malik: Sheening Hi Jillian, I understand that keeping the article about "sheening" may be important to you, but it may be contrary to some of Wikipedia's policies. I'm going to leave a note at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheening explaining the problems with the article. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz
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