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top icon on your user pageOn 19 August 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ivan Ivanić, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1912 Ivan Ivanić became the first governor of Durrës County in the Kingdom of Serbia? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/Ivan Ivanić.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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On 20 August 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Durrës County (Kingdom of Serbia), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1912, during the First Balkan War, the Kingdom of Serbia established Durrës County on territory captured from the Ottoman Empire? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/Durrës County (Kingdom of Serbia).You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Gatoclass ( talk) 08:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Antidiskriminator. What's your opinion on Talk:Treaty of Ferhat Pasha, Talk:Zaza people etc... We need neutral users' neutral and reasonable opinion. Formerly when you were not involved in, we saw incredible result in Talk:Chepni :) -- Takabeg ( talk) 06:39, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for the support! You know the worst thing about being blocked? It's like you're in a soundproof glass room darkened from the outside so you see people and they can't see you. You cannot alert anyone's attention unless they have the foresight to notice you!! So imagine screaming to all your friends "HELP!" but they don't hear. It can be helpful when established editors lend support to one's appeal but on this occasion, Black Kite acted fairly and right now, that is the last person I wish to upset! In the meantime, thanks for noticing and yes, we ALL need to go a bit careful sometimes. Evlekis (Евлекис) ( argue) 00:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Antidiskriminator. When do you have time, could you control Talk:Foça#Greek alternative name, Talk:Fethiye#Greek alternative name, Talk:Side#Greek alternative name, Talk:Antalya#Greek alternative name Talk:Imbros and Talk:Tenedos#"a campaign of state-sponsored discrimination" ? ? Is this expression is appropriate and encyclopedic for neutral encyclopedia ? I think that user is not neutral. Have you ever investigated these edits ? Do I have to propose topic ban for him ? Takabeg ( talk) 09:27, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Myth of Albanian Indifference to Religion is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Myth of Albanian Indifference to Religion until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
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Sure but I don't have acces to it right now.-- Gaius Claudius Nero ( talk) 21:47, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
The author of this article is V. Nitsiakos. Some parts of the text include the following:
p. 1 (par.2): From the very start of the Albanian National Movement we see a specific view about religion and national identity, mainly reflected in the words of Pascho Pasha... "The faith of Albanians is Albanianism". This view is fundamental and repeated in all texts of the Albanian Rilindja, a fact that proves alone that religion was not at all indiferrent.... and how could it be diferrent since the main criterion of social classification in the Ottoman society was that of religion? Alexikoua ( talk) 20:37, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
p.2 (par.2): Indeed, with the years this myth was widely acccepted and the concept of national unity prevailed against the religious borders. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:52, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
p.7 With the collapse of the regime (1991), the issue of religion has been raised again and is off course connected with that of the national identity of the Albanians, under the scope of the search of new ideological directions. The concept that the Albanian state is a secular state and that religion should not be connected with politics, something that is in accordance with the prevailing national ideology, is under discussion. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:52, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
The above parts are about the author's view. If you need anything specific just let me know. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
It's exactly what the same author claims. Alexikoua ( talk) 21:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, Antidisriminator. I'm asking you because I consider you as one of the reasonable and neutral users. A user delete some samples with claiming "personal attack". But I have no intention to attack creator of that map. the inclination of the creator of that map is very clear and users have right to investigate his/her edits in commons. I think a user try to erase evidences to "win" discussion. I'm afraid a user confuses encyclopedia with a kind of field of debate. Regards. Takabeg ( talk) 03:12, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
What is considered to be a personal attack?
There is no rule that is objective and not open to interpretation on what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are never acceptable:
Once again: Discuss issues, and not editors. Always assume good faith. Do not speculate on the motives of other editors without very good reason to do so. Do not assume that anyone who disagrees with you is pushing a POV or clueless about what this project is and how it operates. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 04:16, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Antidiskriminator, As to the source I've used, Nish is not involved in the eyalet of Rumeli. Do you have any sources ? Takabeg ( talk) 15:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, again :) Could you control this users edits ? I think he/she can create better map(s). Takabeg ( talk) 17:03, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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Thank you very much, Antidiskriminator! It just so happens to be my 20th GA too, and this unique church is definitely a worthy topic :) — Toдor Boжinov — 11:17, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
On 4 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Paladin Gundulić, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ragusan diplomat Paladin Gundulić performed services for Eric of Pomerania, Ferdinand I of Naples and the Duchy of Saint Sava? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Paladin Gundulić.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Materialscientist ( talk) 08:03, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Antidiskriminator, I have reviewed your nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Nesting Orientalisms and I have an issue with referencing. Could you see my comments at the nomination page? Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 05:31, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
On 11 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nesting Orientalisms, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the concept of Nesting Orientalisms is based on the ideas of historian Larry Wolff and Edward Said's Orientalism? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nesting Orientalisms.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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I have opened a new discussion here.-- eh bien mon prince ( talk) 17:16, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
The GA review is on hold for an initial seven days. The article has recently been proposed for a merge, and then for a deletion, with no consensus; and has an unresolved multiple issues tag. I'd like to see the multiple issues resolved, and some reassurance that the article has got a degree of stability before I conduct a full review. SilkTork ✔Tea time 00:35, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Thank you for your intention to review the article's GA nomination.
I know that every article should have all major issues resolved before getting GA status. I would not even nominate it before resolving all unresolved issues. The article has been created on February 24, 2011 and it was marked with tag for multiply issues (an hour) after its GA nomination.
I think that all tags which are added within multiply issues tag are unjustified and I explained why. Nobody presented any counterargument in the meantime. Although I announced that I will delete all three tags if nobody presents some counterarguments "within reasonable period of time (say one week)" I did not delete those tags because user who added them was inactive in the meantime.
I still believe that adding the multiple issues tag was unjustified. Taking in consideration that user who added them is (temporary) inactive I propose to wait another week for him to reply to my explanation. If he remains inactive during the next week I propose you to check my explaination and if you feel that I might be right to continue your review until he returns to the discussion during your review hopefully.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 07:19, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
As the multiple issues tag still remains, and there has been no attempt to edit the article to resolve those issues, I have closed the GAN as a fail. The article can be renominated in the future, but all the issues must be resolved first. SilkTork ✔Tea time 14:12, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
It's no problem, the article needs to be further copyedited. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:22, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Antidiskriminator. How are you ? What do you think of Talk:Istanbul Pogrom#Edit by Sockpuppet (User:Ali55te) ? My strict opposition to permitting socks to edit is partially related with the tragedy upon User:Kebeta. If we had behaved against socks, we might not have lost him. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 04:00, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hi there. You asked me to translate this: një interpretim që gjëlloi edhe në vitet '80 të shekullit 20, e pra në prag të krizës së Kosovës, kur propagandistet serbë e brohorisnin Skënderbeun si "bir të Ivanit, Gjorgj Kastrioti, kalorësi serb i Arbërise
Here you go: "One interpretation that was revived even in the '80s of the 20th Century, and therefore on the verge of the Kosovo crisis, when Serbian propagandists cheered Skanderbeg as 'the son of Ivan, Gjorgj Kastrioti, Serbian cavalry of Arbëria'".
Hope that works for you! - RyanGibsonStewart ( talk) 00:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I just wanted to inform you that we should finish the work we started. Article Vojsava Tripalda, with numerous problematic parts, are recreated so far by lede and one section, so i ask you what should we do next? Lets finish this.
Thanks for you great contribution so far. -- WhiteWriter speaks 15:28, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Does the second source work? The first one seems to be timed. Rakamomba ( talk) 22:13, 10 October 2011 (UTC) see this. I don't have the book, unfortunately. Rakamomba ( talk) 22:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hello! Can you, please, remove unreliable, rejected and disputed sources from Talk:Vojsava Tripalda/Temp, and maybe, remove anything that should not be in recreated article? Thank you so much! -- WhiteWriter speaks 22:14, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
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You may be interested in this [ [1]]. The last page gives a summary in English with a similar view about the Argitis signature. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:39, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
If the people of Piperi and other clans don't identify as Serbian please don't classify them as such.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 09:35, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your review on Siege of Kruje (1466). I read through all of it and will decide what to about them. Would you mind if I post some responses on the link you gave me?-- Gaius Claudius Nero ( talk) 00:43, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
I've read the reviews; user:ZjarriRrethues has only commented on the other editor's use of informal language, colorful idioms, and other ethnopolitically-neutral matters. As such, I hardly see any basis for your suggestion that he recuse himself from the review.
Thank you. DS ( talk) 20:22, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, I have some sources about this, but currently I do not have much time to translate that into English. If I find more free time I will see to expand that article. PANONIAN 17:06, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
I had the chance to quickly review your draft of the sanjak of Ohrid. It's a good effort but there are some mistakes: In 1913 it wasn't a sanjak, but a kaza of of Manastir and when its capital city was incorporated in the Ottoman Empire it wasn't under Marko's rule. Although he was an Ottoman vassal he had lost the city since the early 1370s [2].-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 14:06, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
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On 20 August 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Durrës County (Kingdom of Serbia), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1912, during the First Balkan War, the Kingdom of Serbia established Durrës County on territory captured from the Ottoman Empire? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/Durrës County (Kingdom of Serbia).You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Gatoclass ( talk) 08:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Antidiskriminator. What's your opinion on Talk:Treaty of Ferhat Pasha, Talk:Zaza people etc... We need neutral users' neutral and reasonable opinion. Formerly when you were not involved in, we saw incredible result in Talk:Chepni :) -- Takabeg ( talk) 06:39, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for the support! You know the worst thing about being blocked? It's like you're in a soundproof glass room darkened from the outside so you see people and they can't see you. You cannot alert anyone's attention unless they have the foresight to notice you!! So imagine screaming to all your friends "HELP!" but they don't hear. It can be helpful when established editors lend support to one's appeal but on this occasion, Black Kite acted fairly and right now, that is the last person I wish to upset! In the meantime, thanks for noticing and yes, we ALL need to go a bit careful sometimes. Evlekis (Евлекис) ( argue) 00:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Antidiskriminator. When do you have time, could you control Talk:Foça#Greek alternative name, Talk:Fethiye#Greek alternative name, Talk:Side#Greek alternative name, Talk:Antalya#Greek alternative name Talk:Imbros and Talk:Tenedos#"a campaign of state-sponsored discrimination" ? ? Is this expression is appropriate and encyclopedic for neutral encyclopedia ? I think that user is not neutral. Have you ever investigated these edits ? Do I have to propose topic ban for him ? Takabeg ( talk) 09:27, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Myth of Albanian Indifference to Religion is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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Sure but I don't have acces to it right now.-- Gaius Claudius Nero ( talk) 21:47, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
The author of this article is V. Nitsiakos. Some parts of the text include the following:
p. 1 (par.2): From the very start of the Albanian National Movement we see a specific view about religion and national identity, mainly reflected in the words of Pascho Pasha... "The faith of Albanians is Albanianism". This view is fundamental and repeated in all texts of the Albanian Rilindja, a fact that proves alone that religion was not at all indiferrent.... and how could it be diferrent since the main criterion of social classification in the Ottoman society was that of religion? Alexikoua ( talk) 20:37, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
p.2 (par.2): Indeed, with the years this myth was widely acccepted and the concept of national unity prevailed against the religious borders. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:52, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
p.7 With the collapse of the regime (1991), the issue of religion has been raised again and is off course connected with that of the national identity of the Albanians, under the scope of the search of new ideological directions. The concept that the Albanian state is a secular state and that religion should not be connected with politics, something that is in accordance with the prevailing national ideology, is under discussion. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:52, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
The above parts are about the author's view. If you need anything specific just let me know. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
It's exactly what the same author claims. Alexikoua ( talk) 21:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, Antidisriminator. I'm asking you because I consider you as one of the reasonable and neutral users. A user delete some samples with claiming "personal attack". But I have no intention to attack creator of that map. the inclination of the creator of that map is very clear and users have right to investigate his/her edits in commons. I think a user try to erase evidences to "win" discussion. I'm afraid a user confuses encyclopedia with a kind of field of debate. Regards. Takabeg ( talk) 03:12, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
What is considered to be a personal attack?
There is no rule that is objective and not open to interpretation on what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are never acceptable:
Once again: Discuss issues, and not editors. Always assume good faith. Do not speculate on the motives of other editors without very good reason to do so. Do not assume that anyone who disagrees with you is pushing a POV or clueless about what this project is and how it operates. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 04:16, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Antidiskriminator, As to the source I've used, Nish is not involved in the eyalet of Rumeli. Do you have any sources ? Takabeg ( talk) 15:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, again :) Could you control this users edits ? I think he/she can create better map(s). Takabeg ( talk) 17:03, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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Thank you very much, Antidiskriminator! It just so happens to be my 20th GA too, and this unique church is definitely a worthy topic :) — Toдor Boжinov — 11:17, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Antidiskriminator, I have reviewed your nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Nesting Orientalisms and I have an issue with referencing. Could you see my comments at the nomination page? Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 05:31, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
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I have opened a new discussion here.-- eh bien mon prince ( talk) 17:16, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
The GA review is on hold for an initial seven days. The article has recently been proposed for a merge, and then for a deletion, with no consensus; and has an unresolved multiple issues tag. I'd like to see the multiple issues resolved, and some reassurance that the article has got a degree of stability before I conduct a full review. SilkTork ✔Tea time 00:35, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Thank you for your intention to review the article's GA nomination.
I know that every article should have all major issues resolved before getting GA status. I would not even nominate it before resolving all unresolved issues. The article has been created on February 24, 2011 and it was marked with tag for multiply issues (an hour) after its GA nomination.
I think that all tags which are added within multiply issues tag are unjustified and I explained why. Nobody presented any counterargument in the meantime. Although I announced that I will delete all three tags if nobody presents some counterarguments "within reasonable period of time (say one week)" I did not delete those tags because user who added them was inactive in the meantime.
I still believe that adding the multiple issues tag was unjustified. Taking in consideration that user who added them is (temporary) inactive I propose to wait another week for him to reply to my explanation. If he remains inactive during the next week I propose you to check my explaination and if you feel that I might be right to continue your review until he returns to the discussion during your review hopefully.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 07:19, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
As the multiple issues tag still remains, and there has been no attempt to edit the article to resolve those issues, I have closed the GAN as a fail. The article can be renominated in the future, but all the issues must be resolved first. SilkTork ✔Tea time 14:12, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
It's no problem, the article needs to be further copyedited. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:22, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Antidiskriminator. How are you ? What do you think of Talk:Istanbul Pogrom#Edit by Sockpuppet (User:Ali55te) ? My strict opposition to permitting socks to edit is partially related with the tragedy upon User:Kebeta. If we had behaved against socks, we might not have lost him. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 04:00, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hi there. You asked me to translate this: një interpretim që gjëlloi edhe në vitet '80 të shekullit 20, e pra në prag të krizës së Kosovës, kur propagandistet serbë e brohorisnin Skënderbeun si "bir të Ivanit, Gjorgj Kastrioti, kalorësi serb i Arbërise
Here you go: "One interpretation that was revived even in the '80s of the 20th Century, and therefore on the verge of the Kosovo crisis, when Serbian propagandists cheered Skanderbeg as 'the son of Ivan, Gjorgj Kastrioti, Serbian cavalry of Arbëria'".
Hope that works for you! - RyanGibsonStewart ( talk) 00:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I just wanted to inform you that we should finish the work we started. Article Vojsava Tripalda, with numerous problematic parts, are recreated so far by lede and one section, so i ask you what should we do next? Lets finish this.
Thanks for you great contribution so far. -- WhiteWriter speaks 15:28, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Does the second source work? The first one seems to be timed. Rakamomba ( talk) 22:13, 10 October 2011 (UTC) see this. I don't have the book, unfortunately. Rakamomba ( talk) 22:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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As you know, WP:NOR permits using original sources: "A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements that any educated person, with access to the source but without specialist knowledge, will be able to verify are supported by the source." Majuru ( talk) 16:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
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You may be interested in this [ [1]]. The last page gives a summary in English with a similar view about the Argitis signature. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:39, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
If the people of Piperi and other clans don't identify as Serbian please don't classify them as such.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 09:35, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your review on Siege of Kruje (1466). I read through all of it and will decide what to about them. Would you mind if I post some responses on the link you gave me?-- Gaius Claudius Nero ( talk) 00:43, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
I've read the reviews; user:ZjarriRrethues has only commented on the other editor's use of informal language, colorful idioms, and other ethnopolitically-neutral matters. As such, I hardly see any basis for your suggestion that he recuse himself from the review.
Thank you. DS ( talk) 20:22, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, I have some sources about this, but currently I do not have much time to translate that into English. If I find more free time I will see to expand that article. PANONIAN 17:06, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
I had the chance to quickly review your draft of the sanjak of Ohrid. It's a good effort but there are some mistakes: In 1913 it wasn't a sanjak, but a kaza of of Manastir and when its capital city was incorporated in the Ottoman Empire it wasn't under Marko's rule. Although he was an Ottoman vassal he had lost the city since the early 1370s [2].-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 14:06, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
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