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Greets. Found my add to the ' Avant-garde metal' article deleted, because the source cited is not considered to be reliable. It first turned me simply furious, but I try to see the problem larger. Avant-garde metal is a genre that is quite hard to call mainstream. Many bands are really underground. Like Lux Occulta, or Phlebotomized. For some reasons these bands are still very underrated due to the lack of attention to their music. But if you give them a listen, being an expert, you will easily discover that they are real avant-garde. I think the whole article concerned should be revised: calling Celtic Frost or Agalloch avant-garde while rejecting Opeth from the list seems pure nonsense to me as a fan of this kind of music. But my question is about something else: how is it possible that I cite a reliable source for a band that is unfairly underrated and therefore not reviewed in serious zines? There are hundreds of cases like that of Lux Occulta, so no place in Wiki for them? This is not a reproach to you, but I would be really grateful if you could at least point me at the ways of solving the problem. Thanks in advance!-- Alex Vynogradoff ( talk) 20:52, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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"neither source is used for that claim"
Look at the edit that put the claim into the article. I'll quote it for you: "As for the loose definition of screamo, see reference #7 and #55"
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Hello. I'm not going to make the so called "editor war" or whatever, I just want to understand your point. In my opinion if the creators of the genre started out as sludge, this should be noted in the style's origins. What else are the origins if not the music background of the founders? Plus - I listen to this kind of music and all I see is most of the bands described also as sludge metal or atmospheric sludge metal - there surely is some overlapping that should be noted too. Xr 1 ( talk) 13:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I used the sources I previously put in the talk page, I think they are reliable - the source about Isis is from AllMusic's review, and now the article says "Although Neurosis and Godflesh appeared earlier and display elements befitting post-metal, Isis, who like Neurosis[7] were involved in the sludge metal scene,[8] are often credited with laying down the conventions and definition of the genre in less nebulous terms, with their release of Oceanic in 2002.[9]" I used "were" because they broke up. Xr 1 ( talk) 20:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I'm actually familiar with WP:RS and that is exactly why I chose the two sources you removed from List of symphonic metal bands. While there are lots of fanzines that post user-written reviews and comments, these two sites work with a defined staff. Powermetal.de is published by Weihrauch Medien Verlag, a professional publishing house and CDstarts is a also a business (GbR is a type of legal status in Germany) that does reviews for profit with a professional staff and a professional marketing background (see their imprint. If such sites are not reliable for you I recommend that you remove all instances of MusicMight from that list as well, not to mention this. Regards, De728631 ( talk) 22:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC).
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Ah i see so Metalcore is a heavier form of metal, Hardcore Punk a heavier form of Punk with screamed and Screamo heavier version of emo? Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk) 17:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk) 17:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't think I'm trying to accomplish anything. I would love to be able to do something about the utter tripe on the page (and others), but it goes a bit deeper than just arguing about the content; it's Wikipedia's rules that are the problem. I think we need to be more judgemental regarding reliable sources, because some of them present legitimate misinformation. Sadly, I can't do anything about this; the problem should be brought up somewhere higher up, but I'm not going to be able to change Wikipedia policy. I feel powerless; the most I can do is vandalise pages to let off some steam.
I'll stop the vandalism, but aside from that I have no idea what to do about this stuff. -- LordNecronus ( talk) 17:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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It seems someone has removed Cello Metal as well as other edits that may not have consensus. I don't know the subject well enough or what consensus has been reached. You or others familiar with the article may wish to go over it again.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 21:03, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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Hey there, sorry to bother you. But I'm inviting editors to contribute to this discussion on the Bring Me the Horizon talk page. Care to weigh in again if you have time? An editor seems to disagree about the use of a genre in the article, whether or not you agree with me is irrelevant in this post. I believe this discussion needs additional editors to build consensus. Thanks. Jonjonjohny ( talk) 17:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Surely a source is either reliable or not. Elucidate Syxxpackid420 ( talk) 00:48, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
No it was in reference to Job for a Cowboy Syxxpackid420 ( talk) 17:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Could you please point me to an example of a Metalstorm article being published by a notable third-party source? You appear to be stating (for instance, on the technical death metal article) that staff reviews somehow pass WP:RS. I'd be interested to know how. Please remember that being cited by someone else is meaningless, as is the "editorial oversight" of any given webzine. Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 19:41, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
All the other list articles have this formatting. And extra ==List== is stating the obvious. This is a aesthetic issue so I don't think you should contravene standard for personal preferences. Curb Chain ( talk) 02:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Regarding your request for entries on input between the challenged entries: which editor have challenged the entries, and which entries are they, because when you directed me to the talk page I saw more than one editor in discussion with you. Curb Chain ( talk) 02:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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Hi there, it's me again. There is some minor kerfuffel (is that how that's spelt? I've never written it down) over at the above linked article. Essentially it is one concerning sourcing; we have a new editor that is of the True Goff Is the Only Goff variety (you know, like the metal purists and punk purists that turn up on other lists). Unfortunately, this means that they don't really acknowledge that other viewpoints may exist (my opinion is irrelevant, obviously, but for the record I'm a tradgoth type of person, much like said editor, but realise that other viewpoints exist in reliable sources in the press; they however have perhaps just jumped on my username and made some assumptions). Sourced material is systematically removed with no reference to policy (well, apart from the fact that they disagree with WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:RS in general), and whilst I have tried to remain civil in the light of a fair amount of abuse, I've left a final message at the bottom of the talk page with a solution that we've adopted at other contentious articles, e.g. the list of nu metal bands. I don't anticipate much positive reaction, but I did say I'd ask some other editors to look at it, particularly editors that I haven't always seen eye to eye with in the past, so as to avoid accusations of gaming the system. I thought you'd fit the bill as we've frequently disagreed about things but seem to be able to work together pretty well to improve the project :-) I'd appreciate it if you could spare some time to take a look, as I'm not going to commit a WP:3RR violation and I'm not getting anywhere through dialogue with this particular editor. (Sent to a couple of other people as well.) Cheers, Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 16:37, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
The more I look at that NME article, the more flaws I find in it. Latest it's that it's a blog post under which NME places an "opinion" disclaimer. It's an editorial that NME itself hasn't backed. Is that STILL a reliable source? And yet again, I've accepted Evanescence because some writer did call them "goth rock" in the lead of an article. But "goth rock" is not referred to in the NME article for Marilyn Manson. To ASSUME that "goth track" "80s goth" etc equates to gothic rock is the same synthesis you complained about. I will absolutely not accept that source unless you can specifically explain to me the logical process by which you derive "gothic rock" from the text. If you can do that, I will back down. Until that point, you are using a reference *which does say what you say it does* and as such it is *not* a reliable source for that information. I also can't believe it took me this long to notice that the list isnt' even goth rock tracks, but just "Goth tracks". I'd have decimated this as a source ages ago if I had. - BalthCat ( talk)
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You know people like you ---- me off , you don't know ---- about Metal and you just talk ----, If I wasn't here then there would be no page for Brachiosauride on this website, I had the same issue with moderators of the ---- wikipedia about two other pages too (Sunn O))) and Vattnet Viskar) I wanna help your site about Underground Metal music bands and you don't want it -- 46.70.56.240
Greets. Found my add to the ' Avant-garde metal' article deleted, because the source cited is not considered to be reliable. It first turned me simply furious, but I try to see the problem larger. Avant-garde metal is a genre that is quite hard to call mainstream. Many bands are really underground. Like Lux Occulta, or Phlebotomized. For some reasons these bands are still very underrated due to the lack of attention to their music. But if you give them a listen, being an expert, you will easily discover that they are real avant-garde. I think the whole article concerned should be revised: calling Celtic Frost or Agalloch avant-garde while rejecting Opeth from the list seems pure nonsense to me as a fan of this kind of music. But my question is about something else: how is it possible that I cite a reliable source for a band that is unfairly underrated and therefore not reviewed in serious zines? There are hundreds of cases like that of Lux Occulta, so no place in Wiki for them? This is not a reproach to you, but I would be really grateful if you could at least point me at the ways of solving the problem. Thanks in advance!-- Alex Vynogradoff ( talk) 20:52, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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"neither source is used for that claim"
Look at the edit that put the claim into the article. I'll quote it for you: "As for the loose definition of screamo, see reference #7 and #55"
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Hello. I'm not going to make the so called "editor war" or whatever, I just want to understand your point. In my opinion if the creators of the genre started out as sludge, this should be noted in the style's origins. What else are the origins if not the music background of the founders? Plus - I listen to this kind of music and all I see is most of the bands described also as sludge metal or atmospheric sludge metal - there surely is some overlapping that should be noted too. Xr 1 ( talk) 13:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I used the sources I previously put in the talk page, I think they are reliable - the source about Isis is from AllMusic's review, and now the article says "Although Neurosis and Godflesh appeared earlier and display elements befitting post-metal, Isis, who like Neurosis[7] were involved in the sludge metal scene,[8] are often credited with laying down the conventions and definition of the genre in less nebulous terms, with their release of Oceanic in 2002.[9]" I used "were" because they broke up. Xr 1 ( talk) 20:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I'm actually familiar with WP:RS and that is exactly why I chose the two sources you removed from List of symphonic metal bands. While there are lots of fanzines that post user-written reviews and comments, these two sites work with a defined staff. Powermetal.de is published by Weihrauch Medien Verlag, a professional publishing house and CDstarts is a also a business (GbR is a type of legal status in Germany) that does reviews for profit with a professional staff and a professional marketing background (see their imprint. If such sites are not reliable for you I recommend that you remove all instances of MusicMight from that list as well, not to mention this. Regards, De728631 ( talk) 22:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC).
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Ah i see so Metalcore is a heavier form of metal, Hardcore Punk a heavier form of Punk with screamed and Screamo heavier version of emo? Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk) 17:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk) 17:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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It seems someone has removed Cello Metal as well as other edits that may not have consensus. I don't know the subject well enough or what consensus has been reached. You or others familiar with the article may wish to go over it again.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 21:03, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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Hey there, sorry to bother you. But I'm inviting editors to contribute to this discussion on the Bring Me the Horizon talk page. Care to weigh in again if you have time? An editor seems to disagree about the use of a genre in the article, whether or not you agree with me is irrelevant in this post. I believe this discussion needs additional editors to build consensus. Thanks. Jonjonjohny ( talk) 17:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Surely a source is either reliable or not. Elucidate Syxxpackid420 ( talk) 00:48, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
No it was in reference to Job for a Cowboy Syxxpackid420 ( talk) 17:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Could you please point me to an example of a Metalstorm article being published by a notable third-party source? You appear to be stating (for instance, on the technical death metal article) that staff reviews somehow pass WP:RS. I'd be interested to know how. Please remember that being cited by someone else is meaningless, as is the "editorial oversight" of any given webzine. Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 19:41, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
All the other list articles have this formatting. And extra ==List== is stating the obvious. This is a aesthetic issue so I don't think you should contravene standard for personal preferences. Curb Chain ( talk) 02:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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Hi there, it's me again. There is some minor kerfuffel (is that how that's spelt? I've never written it down) over at the above linked article. Essentially it is one concerning sourcing; we have a new editor that is of the True Goff Is the Only Goff variety (you know, like the metal purists and punk purists that turn up on other lists). Unfortunately, this means that they don't really acknowledge that other viewpoints may exist (my opinion is irrelevant, obviously, but for the record I'm a tradgoth type of person, much like said editor, but realise that other viewpoints exist in reliable sources in the press; they however have perhaps just jumped on my username and made some assumptions). Sourced material is systematically removed with no reference to policy (well, apart from the fact that they disagree with WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:RS in general), and whilst I have tried to remain civil in the light of a fair amount of abuse, I've left a final message at the bottom of the talk page with a solution that we've adopted at other contentious articles, e.g. the list of nu metal bands. I don't anticipate much positive reaction, but I did say I'd ask some other editors to look at it, particularly editors that I haven't always seen eye to eye with in the past, so as to avoid accusations of gaming the system. I thought you'd fit the bill as we've frequently disagreed about things but seem to be able to work together pretty well to improve the project :-) I'd appreciate it if you could spare some time to take a look, as I'm not going to commit a WP:3RR violation and I'm not getting anywhere through dialogue with this particular editor. (Sent to a couple of other people as well.) Cheers, Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 16:37, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
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