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That's some of the trickiest user page source obfuscation I've ever seen. — Scott • talk 12:19, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for putting in the work to get this functional. I know that doing so takes quite a bit of time and effort. It is certainly appreciated. Makyen ( talk) 00:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Would you be able to explain to me the means for getting (this bot|a bot like this) User:lowercase sigmabot …
operating on at English Wikisource. We are not particularly hacking inclined, and having a configurable bot to look after things would be most useful in so many places. Thanks for any guidance. —
billinghurst
sDrewth
10:16, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Σ,
Your archival bot seems to be a bit on the fritz. It just archived my talkpage and the page it archived it to was numbered "8 8", rather than in sequence with previous pages. Unless it's an error on my part, in which case, can you explain?
Thanks in advance. Black Yoshi ( Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 15:27, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
While I was moving the archive pages of Talk:Comparison of American and British English, I noticed a few sections on the talk page which should have been moved to the archive, but which were left on the main talk page. The sections are Use of tenses and "I couldn't care less". In addition, Quotes and punctuation should also be archived, but has unsigned text after the last date (an unsigned comment template is the only date in that section).
I put this as a bug/RFE because a brief look shows that the sections were not moved by MiszaBot. However, they were not old enough to qualify to be moved at the last time which I am able to verify MiszaBot ran on the page (17:37, April 26, 2012). Thus, it is not clear from this small sample if MiszaBot would have recognized the date and archived them correctly. A quick look at the archives from this page do not show any instances of where MiszaBot performed actions indicating either way as to it correctly identifying and archiving similar sections (only date being an unsigned comment template). The most recent similar cases on that page appear to be prior to auto-archiving being enabled on the page ( Archive 7). Either way (Bug or RFE), the sections where an unsigned comment template is the only date should be moved if they otherwise qualify. Makyen ( talk) 00:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
DO NOT clear the sandbox while someone is trying to use it. Please. Kelisi ( talk) 17:01, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
NT Dogmaticeclectic ( talk) 04:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I have run to ground a now little-known English version of The Internationale (the version I remember from my youth)—the Socialist Labor Party of America version. I would like to see it regain recognition, and since you have contributed to the Wikipedia page on the song, I thought perhaps you could help to get it posted there. abarbour(at)lightspeed.net 99.92.81.95 ( talk) 01:53, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Can I ask You for archiving of old discussions (older then 90 days) on Talk:Abkhazia? Thanks. Jan CZ ( talk) 13:18, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
minthreadsleft
was default set(5). --
레비Revi
Discuss
SUL Info
06:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
I reverted this edit to Talk:Paul Walker because Talk:Paul Walker/Archive 1 did not exist. Now that I've created the page, could you please run the bot over this again? Is there any way for the bot to automatically take some action if this was to happen on another page? (e.g. create the archive page or not archive or throw an error somewhere?) Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 05:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
P.S. I apologize for rolling back the edit instead of undoing the edit with an informative edit summary. I immediately realized my mistake, which is why I posted here. GoingBatty ( talk) 05:18, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you so much for getting Lowercase sigmabot III up and running. It is so nice to have automatic archiving for my user talk page once again. Your efforts in making this happen are much appreciated! Michael Barera ( talk) 02:06, 11 December 2013 (UTC) |
The discussion above
#Talk:Paul Walker and looking at the
user contributions for lcΣb3 appears to bring to my attention what may be a bug in lcΣb3. All of the contributions show that lcΣb3 saves the archive file after saving the page being archived. I assume that the logic is that you revert the edit to the source page if the save to the archive fails. In the above case of
Talk:Paul Walker it is likely that you would not be permitted to revert the save (I tried both "undo" and "revert", neither of which worked). While the interface may be different for bots, the fact that the bot was prevented from saving the archive indicates that it might be prevented from reverting the deletions from the source page. Would it not be better to use logic something like:
ifnoerr(save_archive_page) then save_source_page_with_deletions else report_error;
With that logic the deletions are never actually made to the source page unless saving the archive page actually succeeded. This would reasonably result in more than one write to the source page when you are deleting into more than one archive file. This might increase the logic a bit more, or you could make it such that for each time lcΣb3 considers a file it only removes enough to fill up a single archive file. If a second archive file is needed then just wait to come back to the page the next time the bot runs, or just call itself recursively after saving the one archive file, saving the source page, and cleaning up.
The logic of saving the archive first then the source page would eliminate any need for logic for reverting an edit if the save of the archive fails. Overall, it is also less prone to causing data loss due to cases not handled. If you are actually concerned about data loss, you could add a step of reading back the saved archive file and comparing it against what the bot was expecting to be there.
Makyen (
talk)
04:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
You indicated that you migrated a few of my tools from toolserver. Where can I find them? ‑Scottywong | prattle _ 01:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Σ, I've been going through my tools and doing some significant cleanup on them, including cleaning up the html/css so that they don't look like a 10-year-old designed them; getting rid of the javascript menubar at the top; and cleaning up the python code to make it faster, more efficient, and more readable. You can get an idea of what I've been doing by looking at this and this, and comparing it to the toolserver versions of the same tools. The two tools that you migrated need to be cleaned up as well. We have a couple of options for this:
I have been creating separate tool accounts for each tool. I'm not sure if that is the smartest way to do it, but it makes short and clean URL's. I'm a fan of consistency, so I have a slight preference for option #1 above, even though I know that you've probably put a decent amount of work into migrating these two tools. I'd like you to continue maintaining the tools, if you're willing, since you have put the work into understanding how they work, and you're much more available than I am to fix problems with them and respond to complaints. In fact, I wonder if you'd be willing to maintain all of the tools that I eventually migrate to tools lab. Let me know what you think about all of this. ‑Scottywong | squeal _ 23:54, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Speaking of: at 2: http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py, the timeline links don't work. You're the contact person. (If not fixable/getting fixed, delink?)-- Elvey ( talk) 18:06, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi there! I'm currently considering running a Tyop Contest and I would like to be able to search user's contributions to find how many typo's they've fixed. Your tool is perfect, I just have one minor request: Could you possibly number the amount of edits that a user has in which the edit summary uses a certain keyword? For example, if I searched my user profile on your page for the word 'revert' (as seen here), it would number the results.
Thanks! Newyorkadam ( talk) 02:16, 12 December 2013 (UTC)Newyorkadam
This edit to the mainpaged redirect Jang Sung-taek broke the redirect. From what I can tell from the next edit it was because it was put before the #REDIRECT at the start of the page. 8ty3hree ( talk) 01:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
I set up lcΣB3 on User talk:Hassocks5489, at the user's request, on December 12, but it has yet to be archived. There are threads which are 6+ months old and the age is set to 90 days. I know that lcΣB3 has been running based on both its contributions and seeing archiving on other pages. In fact, I set up Talk:Albert Ball with almost an identical configuration. lcΣB3 archived that page just over 3 hours after I set it up. I have not been able to see anything in the config which would prevent archiving. Could you take a look at things to see what is going on? Thanks. Makyen ( talk) 13:10, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
algo=
is preventing bot from understanding commands. --
레비
Revi
13:26, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
I noticed your archives were stored in pages with the format of User talk:Σ/Archive/YYYY/Month instead of the /Archives/YYYY/Month format many of the archive box templates automatically find. I had noticed this issue on several other talk pages. Thus, I took some time and updated a couple of the templates. The {{
Archives by months}} template can now work with such page names:
{{archive box |search=yes |bot=ClueBot III |age=4 |index=User:ClueBot III/Master Detailed Indices/User talk:Σ |collapsed=yes |image=[[File:Exquisite-folder font.png|70px]] | style=background-color:#F9F9F9; border-color:#AAAAAA; | {{nowrap|'''2009''': {{Archives by months|2009|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2010''': {{Archives by months|2010|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2011''': {{Archives by months|2011|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2012''': {{Archives by months|2012|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2013''': {{Archives by months|2013|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2014''': {{Archives by months|2014|archprefix=Archive/}}}} }} |
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This may make it a bit easier to access your archives rather than have to scroll through the long list. The above template also works from within archive files, so it can be used to navigate around the actual archive pages by including the above code with the archive header. Makyen ( talk) 13:46, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
See these five edits: the middle one deleted three threads from a page without moving them to an archive page. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 01:20, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for all you do on this project, but it seems Lowercase sigmabot III has not been archiving my user talk page. I think that should have been done five days ago. Did I do something wrong? — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 05:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
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As can be seen in the
thread above, I had a lcΣb3 config not function because there was a <!-- -->
comment in the config block/template. I can easily solve this for any page I set up or encounter. However, given the wide use of the config block by a significant number of editors, I believe that lcΣb3 should be able to handle (i.e. ignore) comments in the config block. This is just deployed too widely with a base of users that expect that style of comment to be ignored. I expect that if lcΣb3 continues to fail when such comments are encountered there will be ongoing issues of people having problems with configs throughout the life of the bot.
Makyen (
talk)
10:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Looking at lcΣb3's contributions I found the following times/pages where threads were deleted and not placed in an archive file:
There was also a strange occurrence which you already know about. I assume was a start-up glitch as it occurred on the first edit of its run. This is included for completeness:
I do recommend that you add a check into lcΣb3 that reads the file size of the archives written and verifies that the amount of data actually stored is at least the size of the amount lcΣb3 expected to be there.
I am putting this list here in case you were not aware of any of them as they may have some debugging value. It is my expectation that the issues earlier than this do not have any debugging value, so they are not listed here. On all of the above, the resulting data problems have been corrected.
I am, however, concerned that there are remaining data integrity issues from errors which occurred earlier. Given that I fixed 5/9 of the above, I expect it likely that there has been some data lost which is only available from page histories. I have not checked (semi-automated) all the way back for problems, but there are a good number of additional errors (as is to be expected when developing something like this). I plan to take time, eventually, to look through all those I have found so far. If anyone wants to help clean up any data errors/loss the help is more than welcome. The incomplete list is located here. Makyen ( talk) 17:32, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
In this edit, Lowercase sigmabot removed {{ pp-pc1}} (along with correctly removing {{ pp-semi-blp}}) even though the page was still pending-changes protected. Why did this happen? Jackmcbarn ( talk) 03:29, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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Howdy. Recently, a bot of yours archived the talk page for my bot. I understand why it did this. I still had the MiszaBot config template on my bot's talk page. I have since reverted your bot on my bot's talk page. I did not request for your bot to archive my talk page. I understand that commenting out the MiszaBot archiving config template will stop your bot from archiving my bot's page in the future, but I would like request that you do not assume that I want any of your bots archiving any of my or my bot's talk pages. Thank you.-- Rockfang ( talk) 08:52, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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It's not an exact replacement of Miszabot, because Miszabot had a FAQ page, while this bot doesn't. It wasn't a very good FAQ page, but at least it was something. How do you turn it off? How do you change archive frequency? Michael-Zero ( talk) 16:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Rockfang's complaints do not concern me. → Σ σ ς. ( Sigma) 23:33, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi, this query comes back empty. It should return quite a lot, including this, this, this, this, this, this plus many others. What I was searching for was this edit, which I originally tried to find using this query, but that failed too. Redrose64 ( talk) 21:35, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
str.strip()
on queries to avoid this in the future?
Theopolisme (
talk)
07:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
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Best wishes |
for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:33, 22 December 2013 (UTC) |
I would like to bring to your attention a recent archiving move this bot made. It was on the Talk:Aircraft carrier page. This is how it looked before the archiving. As you can see, there was a lengthy discussion spread across multiple sections, beginning with #2 "To include or not to include..." and ending with #9 "Draft revisited". If possible, it would be preferable to keep this discussion to a single page and unchanged. However, if it must be broken up and spread across additional pages, it would (obviously) be best if it were still kept in it's original, chronological order.
But as it stands now, the discussion has been broken up and spread across three pages. The sections are not in chronological order and there also appears to be info missing (?!) Could you please look into this at your earliest convenience? Thanks
note; I've reverted the moves for now. I don't know much about archiving, but could we just manually archive the discussion to keep it intact? I am happy to help in any way. Cheers - theWOLFchild 06:51, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
|Maxarchivesize=
code, it will create new archive page when archive page has exceeded the limit. If you want to archive page section-by-section manually, try OneclickArchiver. --
레비
Revi
con
07:45, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
JianhuiMobile
talk is wishing you a
Merry
Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes
WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a
Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the cheer by adding {{ subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
JianhuiMobile talk 07:31, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard was protected in this edit. Then came Sigmabot and added protection templates in this edit. First commentary: always better to add the protection templates between noinclude tags. Noticeboards, specifically, are often transcluded on userpages, and adding protection templates between noinclude tags prevents those userpages from ending up in Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. Then after the protection expired along came Sigmabot and in this edit removed both protection templates, even though the move protection was (and is) still in place, as the bot subsequently admitted in this edit. Second commentary: do not remove two protection templates, if only one is not relevant any more. Debresser ( talk) 04:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
During the last run on last weekend, LCΣB3 did not archived first section of
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea. Config was |algo=(90d)
, section is almost one year old and there was more than 10 sections. Can you check it? --
레비
Revi
con
12:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Per your request, here is a list of the points during the run yesterday where the total bytes out of the source page did not equal the number into the archive.
Excluded are archives where at least one new page was created and the total archive size (tas) difference is ((tas>0) and (tas < 75*n) and (tas mod n = 0)). This could mean there are errors masked. However, the other data set showed ~70 bytes as the longest addition for a new page (assumed that was the cause of the difference). I, obviously, don't know how large the archive header is for any particular page. The differences in the most recent run were:
# | Bytes | Missing / Extra | Time / date (UTC) (Contribs Link) |
Page name | Bytes diff to source page |
Bytes into Archives | |
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1 | 849 | extra bytes at | 07:22 21 December 2013 | in archives of | User talk:Nonsenseferret | -2,586 | 3,435 |
2 | 36 | MISSING bytes at | 05:07 21 December 2013 | from archives of | Talk:Paraben | -5,043 | 5,007 |
3 | 5 | MISSING bytes at | 06:06 21 December 2013 | from archives of | User talk:Musamies | -22,369 | 22,364 |
4 | 2 | MISSING bytes at | 07:17 21 December 2013 | from archives of | User talk:FoCuSandLeArN | -8,912 | 8,910 |
[The first two I have adjusted the contributions link such that the page in question is near the top. The rest will probably be near the bottom, but should be on the page.]
I previously was not looking at smaller differences because my initial priority was to verify that there was no significant data lost. Given that there were a good number where larger amounts of data might be only available in the edit histories, I was temporarily ignoring small differences. I felt that it is now better to report them here as this information is being used for debugging. Makyen ( talk) 16:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
![]() I wish you a
Merry
Christmas and Happy New Year 2014!
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That's some of the trickiest user page source obfuscation I've ever seen. — Scott • talk 12:19, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for putting in the work to get this functional. I know that doing so takes quite a bit of time and effort. It is certainly appreciated. Makyen ( talk) 00:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Would you be able to explain to me the means for getting (this bot|a bot like this) User:lowercase sigmabot …
operating on at English Wikisource. We are not particularly hacking inclined, and having a configurable bot to look after things would be most useful in so many places. Thanks for any guidance. —
billinghurst
sDrewth
10:16, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Σ,
Your archival bot seems to be a bit on the fritz. It just archived my talkpage and the page it archived it to was numbered "8 8", rather than in sequence with previous pages. Unless it's an error on my part, in which case, can you explain?
Thanks in advance. Black Yoshi ( Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 15:27, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
While I was moving the archive pages of Talk:Comparison of American and British English, I noticed a few sections on the talk page which should have been moved to the archive, but which were left on the main talk page. The sections are Use of tenses and "I couldn't care less". In addition, Quotes and punctuation should also be archived, but has unsigned text after the last date (an unsigned comment template is the only date in that section).
I put this as a bug/RFE because a brief look shows that the sections were not moved by MiszaBot. However, they were not old enough to qualify to be moved at the last time which I am able to verify MiszaBot ran on the page (17:37, April 26, 2012). Thus, it is not clear from this small sample if MiszaBot would have recognized the date and archived them correctly. A quick look at the archives from this page do not show any instances of where MiszaBot performed actions indicating either way as to it correctly identifying and archiving similar sections (only date being an unsigned comment template). The most recent similar cases on that page appear to be prior to auto-archiving being enabled on the page ( Archive 7). Either way (Bug or RFE), the sections where an unsigned comment template is the only date should be moved if they otherwise qualify. Makyen ( talk) 00:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
DO NOT clear the sandbox while someone is trying to use it. Please. Kelisi ( talk) 17:01, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
NT Dogmaticeclectic ( talk) 04:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I have run to ground a now little-known English version of The Internationale (the version I remember from my youth)—the Socialist Labor Party of America version. I would like to see it regain recognition, and since you have contributed to the Wikipedia page on the song, I thought perhaps you could help to get it posted there. abarbour(at)lightspeed.net 99.92.81.95 ( talk) 01:53, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Can I ask You for archiving of old discussions (older then 90 days) on Talk:Abkhazia? Thanks. Jan CZ ( talk) 13:18, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
minthreadsleft
was default set(5). --
레비Revi
Discuss
SUL Info
06:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
I reverted this edit to Talk:Paul Walker because Talk:Paul Walker/Archive 1 did not exist. Now that I've created the page, could you please run the bot over this again? Is there any way for the bot to automatically take some action if this was to happen on another page? (e.g. create the archive page or not archive or throw an error somewhere?) Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 05:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
P.S. I apologize for rolling back the edit instead of undoing the edit with an informative edit summary. I immediately realized my mistake, which is why I posted here. GoingBatty ( talk) 05:18, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you so much for getting Lowercase sigmabot III up and running. It is so nice to have automatic archiving for my user talk page once again. Your efforts in making this happen are much appreciated! Michael Barera ( talk) 02:06, 11 December 2013 (UTC) |
The discussion above
#Talk:Paul Walker and looking at the
user contributions for lcΣb3 appears to bring to my attention what may be a bug in lcΣb3. All of the contributions show that lcΣb3 saves the archive file after saving the page being archived. I assume that the logic is that you revert the edit to the source page if the save to the archive fails. In the above case of
Talk:Paul Walker it is likely that you would not be permitted to revert the save (I tried both "undo" and "revert", neither of which worked). While the interface may be different for bots, the fact that the bot was prevented from saving the archive indicates that it might be prevented from reverting the deletions from the source page. Would it not be better to use logic something like:
ifnoerr(save_archive_page) then save_source_page_with_deletions else report_error;
With that logic the deletions are never actually made to the source page unless saving the archive page actually succeeded. This would reasonably result in more than one write to the source page when you are deleting into more than one archive file. This might increase the logic a bit more, or you could make it such that for each time lcΣb3 considers a file it only removes enough to fill up a single archive file. If a second archive file is needed then just wait to come back to the page the next time the bot runs, or just call itself recursively after saving the one archive file, saving the source page, and cleaning up.
The logic of saving the archive first then the source page would eliminate any need for logic for reverting an edit if the save of the archive fails. Overall, it is also less prone to causing data loss due to cases not handled. If you are actually concerned about data loss, you could add a step of reading back the saved archive file and comparing it against what the bot was expecting to be there.
Makyen (
talk)
04:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
You indicated that you migrated a few of my tools from toolserver. Where can I find them? ‑Scottywong | prattle _ 01:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Σ, I've been going through my tools and doing some significant cleanup on them, including cleaning up the html/css so that they don't look like a 10-year-old designed them; getting rid of the javascript menubar at the top; and cleaning up the python code to make it faster, more efficient, and more readable. You can get an idea of what I've been doing by looking at this and this, and comparing it to the toolserver versions of the same tools. The two tools that you migrated need to be cleaned up as well. We have a couple of options for this:
I have been creating separate tool accounts for each tool. I'm not sure if that is the smartest way to do it, but it makes short and clean URL's. I'm a fan of consistency, so I have a slight preference for option #1 above, even though I know that you've probably put a decent amount of work into migrating these two tools. I'd like you to continue maintaining the tools, if you're willing, since you have put the work into understanding how they work, and you're much more available than I am to fix problems with them and respond to complaints. In fact, I wonder if you'd be willing to maintain all of the tools that I eventually migrate to tools lab. Let me know what you think about all of this. ‑Scottywong | squeal _ 23:54, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Speaking of: at 2: http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py, the timeline links don't work. You're the contact person. (If not fixable/getting fixed, delink?)-- Elvey ( talk) 18:06, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi there! I'm currently considering running a Tyop Contest and I would like to be able to search user's contributions to find how many typo's they've fixed. Your tool is perfect, I just have one minor request: Could you possibly number the amount of edits that a user has in which the edit summary uses a certain keyword? For example, if I searched my user profile on your page for the word 'revert' (as seen here), it would number the results.
Thanks! Newyorkadam ( talk) 02:16, 12 December 2013 (UTC)Newyorkadam
This edit to the mainpaged redirect Jang Sung-taek broke the redirect. From what I can tell from the next edit it was because it was put before the #REDIRECT at the start of the page. 8ty3hree ( talk) 01:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
I set up lcΣB3 on User talk:Hassocks5489, at the user's request, on December 12, but it has yet to be archived. There are threads which are 6+ months old and the age is set to 90 days. I know that lcΣB3 has been running based on both its contributions and seeing archiving on other pages. In fact, I set up Talk:Albert Ball with almost an identical configuration. lcΣB3 archived that page just over 3 hours after I set it up. I have not been able to see anything in the config which would prevent archiving. Could you take a look at things to see what is going on? Thanks. Makyen ( talk) 13:10, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
algo=
is preventing bot from understanding commands. --
레비
Revi
13:26, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
I noticed your archives were stored in pages with the format of User talk:Σ/Archive/YYYY/Month instead of the /Archives/YYYY/Month format many of the archive box templates automatically find. I had noticed this issue on several other talk pages. Thus, I took some time and updated a couple of the templates. The {{
Archives by months}} template can now work with such page names:
{{archive box |search=yes |bot=ClueBot III |age=4 |index=User:ClueBot III/Master Detailed Indices/User talk:Σ |collapsed=yes |image=[[File:Exquisite-folder font.png|70px]] | style=background-color:#F9F9F9; border-color:#AAAAAA; | {{nowrap|'''2009''': {{Archives by months|2009|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2010''': {{Archives by months|2010|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2011''': {{Archives by months|2011|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2012''': {{Archives by months|2012|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2013''': {{Archives by months|2013|archprefix=Archive/}}}} {{nowrap|'''2014''': {{Archives by months|2014|archprefix=Archive/}}}} }} |
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This may make it a bit easier to access your archives rather than have to scroll through the long list. The above template also works from within archive files, so it can be used to navigate around the actual archive pages by including the above code with the archive header. Makyen ( talk) 13:46, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
See these five edits: the middle one deleted three threads from a page without moving them to an archive page. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 01:20, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for all you do on this project, but it seems Lowercase sigmabot III has not been archiving my user talk page. I think that should have been done five days ago. Did I do something wrong? — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 05:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
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As can be seen in the
thread above, I had a lcΣb3 config not function because there was a <!-- -->
comment in the config block/template. I can easily solve this for any page I set up or encounter. However, given the wide use of the config block by a significant number of editors, I believe that lcΣb3 should be able to handle (i.e. ignore) comments in the config block. This is just deployed too widely with a base of users that expect that style of comment to be ignored. I expect that if lcΣb3 continues to fail when such comments are encountered there will be ongoing issues of people having problems with configs throughout the life of the bot.
Makyen (
talk)
10:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Looking at lcΣb3's contributions I found the following times/pages where threads were deleted and not placed in an archive file:
There was also a strange occurrence which you already know about. I assume was a start-up glitch as it occurred on the first edit of its run. This is included for completeness:
I do recommend that you add a check into lcΣb3 that reads the file size of the archives written and verifies that the amount of data actually stored is at least the size of the amount lcΣb3 expected to be there.
I am putting this list here in case you were not aware of any of them as they may have some debugging value. It is my expectation that the issues earlier than this do not have any debugging value, so they are not listed here. On all of the above, the resulting data problems have been corrected.
I am, however, concerned that there are remaining data integrity issues from errors which occurred earlier. Given that I fixed 5/9 of the above, I expect it likely that there has been some data lost which is only available from page histories. I have not checked (semi-automated) all the way back for problems, but there are a good number of additional errors (as is to be expected when developing something like this). I plan to take time, eventually, to look through all those I have found so far. If anyone wants to help clean up any data errors/loss the help is more than welcome. The incomplete list is located here. Makyen ( talk) 17:32, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
In this edit, Lowercase sigmabot removed {{ pp-pc1}} (along with correctly removing {{ pp-semi-blp}}) even though the page was still pending-changes protected. Why did this happen? Jackmcbarn ( talk) 03:29, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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Howdy. Recently, a bot of yours archived the talk page for my bot. I understand why it did this. I still had the MiszaBot config template on my bot's talk page. I have since reverted your bot on my bot's talk page. I did not request for your bot to archive my talk page. I understand that commenting out the MiszaBot archiving config template will stop your bot from archiving my bot's page in the future, but I would like request that you do not assume that I want any of your bots archiving any of my or my bot's talk pages. Thank you.-- Rockfang ( talk) 08:52, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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It's not an exact replacement of Miszabot, because Miszabot had a FAQ page, while this bot doesn't. It wasn't a very good FAQ page, but at least it was something. How do you turn it off? How do you change archive frequency? Michael-Zero ( talk) 16:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Rockfang's complaints do not concern me. → Σ σ ς. ( Sigma) 23:33, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi, this query comes back empty. It should return quite a lot, including this, this, this, this, this, this plus many others. What I was searching for was this edit, which I originally tried to find using this query, but that failed too. Redrose64 ( talk) 21:35, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
str.strip()
on queries to avoid this in the future?
Theopolisme (
talk)
07:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
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for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:33, 22 December 2013 (UTC) |
I would like to bring to your attention a recent archiving move this bot made. It was on the Talk:Aircraft carrier page. This is how it looked before the archiving. As you can see, there was a lengthy discussion spread across multiple sections, beginning with #2 "To include or not to include..." and ending with #9 "Draft revisited". If possible, it would be preferable to keep this discussion to a single page and unchanged. However, if it must be broken up and spread across additional pages, it would (obviously) be best if it were still kept in it's original, chronological order.
But as it stands now, the discussion has been broken up and spread across three pages. The sections are not in chronological order and there also appears to be info missing (?!) Could you please look into this at your earliest convenience? Thanks
note; I've reverted the moves for now. I don't know much about archiving, but could we just manually archive the discussion to keep it intact? I am happy to help in any way. Cheers - theWOLFchild 06:51, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
|Maxarchivesize=
code, it will create new archive page when archive page has exceeded the limit. If you want to archive page section-by-section manually, try OneclickArchiver. --
레비
Revi
con
07:45, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard was protected in this edit. Then came Sigmabot and added protection templates in this edit. First commentary: always better to add the protection templates between noinclude tags. Noticeboards, specifically, are often transcluded on userpages, and adding protection templates between noinclude tags prevents those userpages from ending up in Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. Then after the protection expired along came Sigmabot and in this edit removed both protection templates, even though the move protection was (and is) still in place, as the bot subsequently admitted in this edit. Second commentary: do not remove two protection templates, if only one is not relevant any more. Debresser ( talk) 04:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
During the last run on last weekend, LCΣB3 did not archived first section of
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea. Config was |algo=(90d)
, section is almost one year old and there was more than 10 sections. Can you check it? --
레비
Revi
con
12:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Per your request, here is a list of the points during the run yesterday where the total bytes out of the source page did not equal the number into the archive.
Excluded are archives where at least one new page was created and the total archive size (tas) difference is ((tas>0) and (tas < 75*n) and (tas mod n = 0)). This could mean there are errors masked. However, the other data set showed ~70 bytes as the longest addition for a new page (assumed that was the cause of the difference). I, obviously, don't know how large the archive header is for any particular page. The differences in the most recent run were:
# | Bytes | Missing / Extra | Time / date (UTC) (Contribs Link) |
Page name | Bytes diff to source page |
Bytes into Archives | |
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1 | 849 | extra bytes at | 07:22 21 December 2013 | in archives of | User talk:Nonsenseferret | -2,586 | 3,435 |
2 | 36 | MISSING bytes at | 05:07 21 December 2013 | from archives of | Talk:Paraben | -5,043 | 5,007 |
3 | 5 | MISSING bytes at | 06:06 21 December 2013 | from archives of | User talk:Musamies | -22,369 | 22,364 |
4 | 2 | MISSING bytes at | 07:17 21 December 2013 | from archives of | User talk:FoCuSandLeArN | -8,912 | 8,910 |
[The first two I have adjusted the contributions link such that the page in question is near the top. The rest will probably be near the bottom, but should be on the page.]
I previously was not looking at smaller differences because my initial priority was to verify that there was no significant data lost. Given that there were a good number where larger amounts of data might be only available in the edit histories, I was temporarily ignoring small differences. I felt that it is now better to report them here as this information is being used for debugging. Makyen ( talk) 16:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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