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[1] I would say more like tea in a teacup, but potato/potahto, no? VQuakr ( talk) 16:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
You have violated the 1RR in place on Kfar Aza massacre. Please self-revert. Jeppiz ( talk) 18:38, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, The ed17 –
Looking at this article’s history, I believe you were the editor who added the Quadruplex and Quintuplex section, under the heading “Expanding the Concept.” Is this correct? (I added the Quad patent drawing and amended the technical description, and a bit of editing to the Quint.)
I’m currently in a dialogue on the talk page with another editor who has made substantial additions in the last few weeks, which I consider to be seriously over-reaching, and which alter the whole character of the article. Basically, he/she has inserted every locomotive type which has multiple engines, and used some logic which seems pretty dodgy (in my opinion) to justify this. Even the meaning of “concept” has been changed to suit that agenda.
I’d be very obliged if you could look at the article to see what I mean, and I ask for your views. I’d welcome you to join the discussion, as I think it would benefit from some third-party input, or even mediation: At this stage it’s a stalemate verging on the acrimonious and personal.
Many thanks for your consideration. Kokopelli-UK ( talk) 13:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
On 26 October 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article If I Survive You, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that NPR favorably compared a story in Jonathan Escoffery's debut book If I Survive You to Moby-Dick? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/If I Survive You. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, If I Survive You), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi, I can't say I'm thrilled with spending my own time in the evening writing a well-thought out comment just to have it removed, The RFA was open when I hit edit so felt in that circumstance it should've stayed, But I guess rules are rules, Just a shame @ Ingenuity couldn't have closed it 10 minutes later :), Thank you for at least apologising that does mean a lot, Thanks, – Davey2010 Talk 22:07, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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Aoidh ( talk) 00:02, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
[1] I would say more like tea in a teacup, but potato/potahto, no? VQuakr ( talk) 16:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
You have violated the 1RR in place on Kfar Aza massacre. Please self-revert. Jeppiz ( talk) 18:38, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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~ ToBeFree ( talk) 19:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello, The ed17 –
Looking at this article’s history, I believe you were the editor who added the Quadruplex and Quintuplex section, under the heading “Expanding the Concept.” Is this correct? (I added the Quad patent drawing and amended the technical description, and a bit of editing to the Quint.)
I’m currently in a dialogue on the talk page with another editor who has made substantial additions in the last few weeks, which I consider to be seriously over-reaching, and which alter the whole character of the article. Basically, he/she has inserted every locomotive type which has multiple engines, and used some logic which seems pretty dodgy (in my opinion) to justify this. Even the meaning of “concept” has been changed to suit that agenda.
I’d be very obliged if you could look at the article to see what I mean, and I ask for your views. I’d welcome you to join the discussion, as I think it would benefit from some third-party input, or even mediation: At this stage it’s a stalemate verging on the acrimonious and personal.
Many thanks for your consideration. Kokopelli-UK ( talk) 13:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
On 26 October 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article If I Survive You, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that NPR favorably compared a story in Jonathan Escoffery's debut book If I Survive You to Moby-Dick? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/If I Survive You. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, If I Survive You), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 00:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work,
BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-
Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.
The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, I greatly respect your opinions and insight. I was hoping if you find the time you could help me build up this draft as i’m again attempting for it to be recognized as my first and actual Wikipedia page. I believe it holds merit to be one, with your knowledge and prowess I am hoping to make it even better. Thank you! Elvisisalive95 ( talk) 16:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
I mean that all above. 2001:EE0:4BC4:8D40:65D1:E41F:7E97:C466 ( talk) 13:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. - I wish you a good festive season and a peaceful New Year! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Voting is now open for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023! The the top editors will be awarded the coveted Gold Wiki . Cast your votes vote here and here respectively. Voting closes at 23:59 on 30 December 2023. On behalf of the coordinators, wishing you the very best for the festive season and the new year. Hawkeye7 ( talk · contribs) via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 23:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 05:02, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I can't say I'm thrilled with spending my own time in the evening writing a well-thought out comment just to have it removed, The RFA was open when I hit edit so felt in that circumstance it should've stayed, But I guess rules are rules, Just a shame @ Ingenuity couldn't have closed it 10 minutes later :), Thank you for at least apologising that does mean a lot, Thanks, – Davey2010 Talk 22:07, 29 December 2023 (UTC)