When you mentioned a "less emotive state", I was thinking of Connecticut. But that's probably not what you had in mind. Anyhow, I think the final paragraph you removed, while unsourced and unencyclopedic editorial opinion, was pretty on the mark. Of course, I canceled my subscription after they decided to publish Farber's piece on teh HIV/AIDS conspiracy - because if I know they don't fact-check medical articles, where I can catch them, then why should I trust their writing on subjects where I have to take their word for it? Anyhow... MastCell Talk 17:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I used to read Harper's religiously - among other things, for some time it was one of the few outlets for new creative writing in the US (things are better now). And they do some very interesting and thought-provoking work. Lewis Lapham's columns were always enjoyable reading. On the other hand, I started to pick up a few warning signals over time.
They published an article on the treatment (or lack thereof) of hepatitis C in the US prison system, where it is fairly widespread. The gist was that the US prison system is shitty, which isn't exactly news. But the author was either ignorant of or uninterested in the realities of treating hepatitis C, even outside prison, insofar as those realities would have undercut The Message. I let that slide, but the Farber piece - which was basically a one-way ticket to Crazytown, published with a straight face - was the last straw. That piece clearly had not been fact-checked - at least not by anyone with a working college-level knowledge of biology and immunology. So then I didn't trust them anymore.
Occasionally I see Harper's at the newsstand, and the cover invitingly beckons... but I haven't read it since. Its literary criticism did tend toward the insular and pretentious, but a little bit of that is OK. It's almost charmingly anachronistic in today's world to be snobbish about the work of, say, Somerset Maugham, or even to know who he is.
I have to say I stopped watching Presidential press conferences after Bush left office - they lost the sense of surreal absurdity that made them so worthwhile. I remember when Bush explained the need to waterboard detainees by saying: "These are people who are trained to disassemble!" Apparently he was getting blank stares from the press corps, because he helpfully added: "That means not tell the truth." Or when Ari Fleischer issued "reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do" if they didn't want to get in trouble after 9/11. Those kind of things, that make you look at the person next to you to see if they really happened, are no longer a feature of Presidential press conferences. Although I've bet a friend that Gibbs will ask about Obama's birth certificate during the run-up to this November's elections... MastCell Talk 23:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC) Farber should have realized that the only real solutions come from science. Like, y'know, this stuff (and another tip of the hat to Wonkette). The best WH news conference I've seen is the one created by Colbert. But then I've never seen " Jeff Gannon" at work. -- Hoary ( talk) 23:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Did I spend that long? I thought I'd do a stub in an hour, but I got engrossed. I'm now emailing to see if I can get some free images to use, and it's in the DYK queue as well. But please don't make any more tempting suggestions too soon! Ty
Series of edits undoes most of the improving that has been made in Brazil (with the insertion of a blank line that made it very difficult to see what changes were actually done). I reverted to the last reliable version, and was immediately re-reverted, with this cute edit summary: (Reverting vandalism). Ninguém ( talk) 21:08, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm impressed. You're doing a very thorough job, and personally, I like the results. Good work! And thank you. Pdfpdf ( talk) 12:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Regarding some of your comments: (via http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Surrender_of_Japan&action=historysubmit&diff=380089042&oldid=379968244)
Hmmm. That's a worry; I know the names, but can't remember the positions.
I'll fill in the gaps tomorrow.
Cheers,
Pdfpdf (
talk) 12:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
By-the-way, you seem to be linking Sato, but not Malik or Molotov. Any particular reason for that? Pdfpdf ( talk) 12:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Hoary - the work you've been doing on the Surrender article is good, but something is bothering me. You have repeatedly tagged things as vague that could be trivially fixed with one or two google searches. The above paragraph, for example. It was a reference to Kōki Hirota. I didn't know that at first, but I figured it out with exactly 1 google search. Ditto this that I fixed earlier -- searching for that quote on Google Books produces exactly one hit, with a page number. Please spend a minute checking google before tagging the article. Raul654 ( talk) 17:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, according to this, Tanakamura was a fishing fleet owner. Raul654 ( talk) 17:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay, to sum it up:
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I'm petitioning to modify the Japanese manual of style to allow the use of tildes/wavedashes/dashes as a method of separating the subtitle from the title of music/other media. Seeing as you were the user who originally put this aspect of the MOS in place, I'd like to get your input at WT:MOS-JA as to why you originally suggested that the tildes et al. should not be used.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 02:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
It is rare to see the word "hoary" in print; but I did stumble across it here in an article about the Richard Lane collection at the Honolulu Academy of Arts:
Is the use of this word as uncommon as I think it is? -- Tenmei ( talk) 14:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
ask User:ScorchingPheonix -- Wikipedian05 ( talk) 07:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Avoid academic boosterism and I have not removed the matelials from the article, just removed them from the lead.-- Wikipedian05 ( talk) 07:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I've submitted the article for formal mediation here and I've named Gnangarra, Factchk, Bilby, Hoary and myself as the main participants. Others are also welcome to participate. Phoenix and Winslow ( talk) 09:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Hoary,
since you haven't added a new comment on your router issue in quite a while, I will stop monitoring your talk page, and assume the problem has been resolved. Since my IP is dynamic (it seems to have a rather long lease time, though), I cannot guarantee that you will be able to reach me via this IP's talk page. Please leave a new message on WP:RD/C should you require further assistance. -- 78.43.71.155 ( talk) 17:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Just a quick note to let you know that an issue involving you has come up at ANI. — DoRD ( talk) 01:27, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Do you think it is pertinent to provide the Japanese pronunciations for letters of the English alphabet as they appear in the titles of (what is in this case) video games and their systems? I had backed down from arguing with Odokee over this matter after the last ANI thread that I had started because of the opposition to this concept that I had been receiving from the uninvolved editors. In short, should Nintendo DSi have in the romanization portion "Nintendō DSi" (the version I self reverted to) or "Nintendō Dī Esu Ai"?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 06:20, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Similar pages: [1], [2], [3], [4].— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 06:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
He doesn't quite get it. Also he's removed it on another page.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 21:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
As (legitimately) suggested by you here in "Talk:Afro-Brazilian", Ninguém sourced most or all of the claims that this or that person named in Afro-Brazilian was "black". While I don't claim that he did this as well as anyone might hope, this work by him strikes me as well-intentioned and solid -- and I imagine that it took him a considerable time. On 18 September, you reacted to it with the comment:
I suppose that this struck him as surprisingly dismissive. (It certainly struck me that way.) He responded:
I wrote a longer reply on this and also on your comments on the desirability of English sources or translations.
You haven't replied, even though your list of contributions shows that you have found time to edit many other articles. Please return to that talk page and respond there. Thank you. -- Hoary ( talk) 08:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually he ignored my protestations and my issues with the sourcing and just stuffed the whole load of what to me looked like weakly claimed color identification back in the article, I took that to be the ignoring of my issues and I removed it off my watchlist so as not to get into a war with him, thanks. As we both know there are multiple issues at the Brazilian race articles that have been continuing for over almost a year now. Ethnicity and color claims of identity have clear BLP issues and would need high quality sourcing, which I did not see, anyways, there is some lengthy committed editing there and I will not be drawn into a war over such issues. I removed it when I saw it as I am required to do as an editor, it was replaced, imo with weak claims, excuse me if that is all the energy I have to resist it. Off2riorob ( talk) 09:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help with Foulball ( block log · checkuser confirmed suspected) and his spamish articles that are cited on his confirmed category. -- Wolfnix • Talk • 02:33, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Hoary. I am having a small problem in Dilma Rousseff. She is at this moment a candidate in Brazilian presidential elections. In the 1960s and 1970s she was part of a communist group financed by Cuba and the defunct Soviet Union which had as goal the creation of a communist dictatorship. Obviously, that does not mean that she wants that nowadays, in 2010. There is an IP (174.91.175.10) who has as sole purpose the goal of removing that piece of information from her article. He has complained about in the talk page (See Talk:Dilma Rousseff#Revolutionary Dictatorship) and did not bother to bring one single source at all to explain why it should be removed. In other words: he is removing that sourced information ( [5]) without sources to back his claim. I've reverted once [6] and he reverted it [7]. I will not revert it a second time and even less a third time. Is there something you could do about it? I am too busy with two articles which I nominated for featured status ( Pedro II of Brazil and Pedro Álvares Cabral) and I don't want to lose my time discussing with an unknown IP. Thanks, -- Lecen ( talk) 18:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Hoary
Could you please delete this redirect Eletrobras to open place for move, it redirects the page to the article Eletrobrás (with diacritic), but Portuguese acronym does not have diacritics, and also, in its official website it's written without the diacritic, but I can't move because a bot inserted a template there. Thank you.-- Luizdl ( talk) 03:50, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello Hoary, I was wondering if you could help me out. I need to get a mirror image of a painting I have found of the old Luxembourg fortifications. It's this one. As you can see, it's a beautiful picture but the version I found happens to be the wrong way round. I have seen authentic copies of the original in several art and history books and this one is definitely wrong. The bridge should be on the left hand side. Perhaps with all your photographic expertise you could fix it yourself and upload the result onto Commons for me. Or if not, perhaps you could direct me to some tool that will do the job. It's quite important as I have used it as the lead image on Bock (Luxembourg). Hope you can help. Cheers. - Ipigott ( talk) 15:22, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
It took rather over 24 hours to finish the work, return home, and catch up on sleep; but I did it. Here's what you'd have to do:
I'll assume that you're using either Windows or Linux. If you're using Mac OS X there'd be minor changes to the following:
Done!
Twenty-eight hours rather than 24, sorry. Of course I knew that this would take mere seconds, but I didn't want to be bothered to go through the rigmarole of answering the questions needed to upload it. However, that turned out to be a lot less arduous than I had misremembered.
Gimp is an excellent program. Its interface takes a bit of getting used to, but Gimp (free) plus a book about it seems to me a better value than Photoshop or similar, and then adding Gimp to any other computer (just about any computer made this century) will cost you nothing extra. -- Hoary ( talk) 02:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
As you may have noticed, I've started to do a bit more on Danish photographers. I think I have run into probems with the photographs of Benedicte Wrensted I've loaded up on Commons here. When I loaded them up, I used the "author died more than 70 yrs ago" licence but now I realise that as she died in 1949, that condition does not yet apply. I suppose that at least the first two (taken in Denmark) should therefore be removed. And I now have doubts about the third one too. Even though it was taken in the States in 1898, it was probably never "published" and therefore might not be outside copyright restrictions. Would you therefore be kind enough to remove all three of them - unless I have misunderstood the rules. - Ipigott ( talk) 11:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, Hoary, very much, for your kind words regarding my response to an issue at BLPN. Much appreciated, -- Cirt ( talk) 11:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
As you were involved i this issue, I am notifying you of this discussion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 October 15#Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Darin Fidika. Please participate if you wish. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 15:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes thanks, known bug. Caused by a MediaWiki bug. Corrected normally by SmackBot on the fly but since SmackBot is under interdiction for changing {{
silicate-mineral-stub}} to {{
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Farmbrough, 11:52, 23 October 2010 (UTC).
Hi Hoary - just had a look back at the Bob Whitaker article and I like your suggestion. I think it's an important photo, culturally, so I'd hate to see all that material just deleted, but I agree the broader discussion of the photo's own 'career' isn't all that relevant to Bob's actual life and career, so yeah, I think that would be great. Thanks.
Dunks ( talk) 05:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the fix at Baker's article.
Tangentially: I'd forgotten how he arrived on my watchlist; so after following the talkpage explanation, I had the chance to review my handful of interactions with him at User talk:Wageless. Ha! This is still one of my favourite edits. We need more of that around here. :)
Best, -- Quiddity ( talk) 18:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
There have been crazy things going on here that have become epic to say the least. I can't tell from where things are comming from but it's everything, copyright, harrassment, stalking who knows what else. I don't think WP will suffer any blow back but I and a few others sure have.
Even though this is not my real name I was even contacted by my old boss and reminded that I had signed papers to keep me quiet a few years back!
Is there anything I can do to extract myself from WP? Myraedison ( talk) 20:04, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I would have to say it went far beyond silliness. One of the sites used as a reference for Daniel Colegrove stored pages and documents for many other buried journalism stories. They began getting threats of all kinds from every direction so rather than deal with it they packed up and left the Internet. Not good, they were a valuable resource for some things and may have been referenced here a lot. Myraedison ( talk) 15:30, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
OEP's website digitalphotojournalist.org, when they started to get blow back from this controversy they packed up their stuff published on the internet and split. The site was just a few pages (they got cagey about things in like 2004 or 5) but there were hundreds of scans, images and other documents behind it in non indexed files on the server, you had to email them to get the links Myraedison ( talk) 16:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I feel we should leave the categories as such for now.Creating new sub categories may be case of over categorisation. We should wait for some months before revising this . However if you feel strongly please go ahead.Thanks Shyamsunder ( talk) 05:41, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Regarding this warning you left for the IP who's been commenting at Talk:James Randi, if I'm not mistaken he was altering his own comments, which I believe he's allowed to do. I changed it back to his altered version. Please feel to double check to make sure I got it right. Histories can be confusing that way. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 10:43, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Hoary - looks like a lot of changes have occurred recently on the Chris Mosdell page, some very good, and some clearly requiring better references. I'll be happy to make those additions. One concern to me is the disappearance of the wiki entry for the documentary film about Mosdell (Ink Music: In the Land of the Hundred-Tongued Lyricist) as well as all of its associated links to the various artists involved in the film. How can this entry be recovered? And any knowledge why it was deleted in the first place? Thanks for your help. Bkce23 ( talk) 19:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
OK, I've put together a short piece on her. I was surprised to find there was no mention of her anywhere in the English WP. Perhaps you can drop her name into one or two relevant artciles. - Ipigott ( talk) 16:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Nice tidy-up on Ian Fleming. Can I just ask you one thing please? I see that you changed "entitled" to "titled" - do you have a strong feeling that "entitled" is wrong? To me "titled" sounds wrong, but it could just be my higgerance and lack of education showing. Can you please clarify? NB - this really is a genuine enquiry, not a fishing trip or an attempt to start a flame war! Thanks and best wishes DBaK ( talk) 12:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Without actually bothering to look in any dictionary (let alone style guide), I'd say offhand that "entitle" as a verb either has irrelevant meanings ("your achievement entitles you to promotion", etc) or is a slightly grandiose alternative to "title". Vladimir Nabokov wrote a short piece "On a book entitled Lolita" (if I remember correctly); and thus "entitle" is fine; if you prefer it, feel free to revert me. -- Hoary ( talk) 13:31, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I just wanted to thank you for bringing that AFD information to my attention. Thanks again! :) Endofskull ( talk) 17:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Nbaka is no a joke is attempting block evasion, but a SPI admin believes no conditions apply to creation of Basil Rock. [8] The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous ( talk) 23:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
If I were the type to jump on other people's bandwagons I would award you Raul's brick of common sense for this comment: [9]. Reality-based community. Oh yes, we could do with some more of that alright. Guy ( Help!) 23:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
So now I've started looking at "Luxembourgian" photographers and was surprised to see that although you once had a look at this article, you let most of the bragging go by. Don't you think some of the superlatives should be edited out? And how about adding your advertising tag, not to mention the quality of her self portrait??? I'll leave it to you. - Ipigott ( talk) 16:36, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
I think you are being too kind. You don't have to be an expert on garden photography to detect all the hype. In addition, the article bears an uncanny resemblence to MM's website. And she's pushing all those who belong to her enterprise: Andrew Lawson, Steven Gunther, Fiona McLeod, Bennet Smith, Simon Meaker and Claire Takacs, although not one of them is yet in Wikipedia. I agree with you btw that Majerus deserves an article. But it should be based on third party sources rather than her own. She does appear in the Luxemburger Lexikon. I've made a few adjustments to the article myself. - Ipigott ( talk) 08:55, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Re.: 76.24.193.240. Can you review this account and re-block? All this person has done for a year has been sophomoric vandalism. Thanks GenQuest ( talk) 19:37, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
In my current work on Luxembourg photography, I frequently come across Nobel prize-winner Gabriel Lippmann (born in Luxembourg but considered to be just as French as Luxembourgish) who invented what is now known as the Lippmann plate, one of the most important inventions in the early days of colour photography. Am I right in thinking that Lippmann should come firmly within the coverage of WikiProject History of photography? If so, I think we should make a real effort to improve the article, perhaps aiming for a GA. Maybe you know members of the project who have the right kind of background here. If not, I could always have a go myself. There are plenty of excellent sources. - Ipigott ( talk) 15:01, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Dicklyon certainly seems to have the right kind of expertise and the right interests. His year off is nearly over and so he should be back on board in January. Perhaps I'll wait until then. I'll see how things go. As for the moribund state of HoP, it's my impression that most of the WikiProjects seem to be in a pretty sorry state. Nevertheless, from time to time interesting new people turn up and you never know when a really good new article might appear out of the blue. - Ipigott ( talk) 08:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
PS I've taken a first look. Even the footnotes make little sense; I spent quite a few minutes sorting out just two of them. I noticed that Dicklyon had already made some edits to the article, though I didn't investigate what these were. -- Hoary ( talk) 14:08, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Hoary: 1st & foremost, thanks a-much for your hyper-intelligent tweaks to the Boston Camera Club article.
I've posted some discussion on its Talk page, the gist of which says, one, I am still deeply occluded as to know where the, or a, centralized discussion/thread about this, or any, article takes place. I know you commented on my 'My talk' page (itself confusing: why there? Why not on the article's Talk page?) and I know you instruct me to reply there, but I mistrust how that will get pushed to *you*. Hence, begging your indulgence, could you take a look at what I posted on Boston CC:Talk?
Secondly, it has a couple of Q's about your tweaks.
Thanks again. I'm sure we'll be in touch. Photo history seems to be undergoing something of a Grosses Bang on der Wiki, ja? Thanks in part to you, no doubt? Jimlue ( talk) 08:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations on getting this through. Unfortunately it's sorted under P. I'm not too sure how to sort categories - so perhaps you can help. I suppose I can now also create Category:Photography in Luxembourg without any trouble. - Ipigott ( talk) 20:03, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I wasn't aware that teh pr0nz had its own delsort category, thanks. pablo 13:46, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello Hoary. I hope you are well. I created this article in a moment of sudden inspiration (there is a little association with photography - author is the brother of a very well known Czech photographer, but the topic is completely different). The author and his works are unknown outside of my country (the refs are only in Czech), but in the Czech Republic he is considered a legend (his large and excellent monography was sold out in one week!) Would you mind to look at it and check the grammar and fluency of my English? No problem if you are not interested - I'm just asking and I don't want to bother you ... But I think you might be interested. Feel free to ask whatever. Thanks. Best regards. -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 12:39, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I am writing on behalf of Trunk Archive.
We represent photographers, and have been trying to broaden Wikipedia's information to include us on the pages of our photographers, and to be able to list the photographers we represent on our Wikipedia page. Originally, my boss hired some interns who did not know what they were doing. It is part of my job to clean up their mess. Having multiple interns is one reason why there were so many different accounts editing Wikipedia. Going forward, we want to clean up Wikipedia:Trunk Archive, and untangle the whole situation. I respect your efforts to make Wikipedia an honest place, and Trunk Archive does not want to impede the efforts of Wikipedians of that goal, and we do not want to be tarnished because of mistakes that were made in the past.
I have been extensively reading Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest and I understand that Wikipedians are strongly discouraged from editing articles related to themselves or their organization. I respect Wikipedia's mission, and would not want to contribute anything to Wikipedia that I did not feel was worthy of being a part of this center of public knowledge, that was biased, self-promoting, and not generally useful information.
I would really appreciate if you would engage in a discussion with me about why Trunk Archive is different from Wikipedia:Getty Images, Inc. or Wikipedia:Corbis Corporation. Internationally we are known for our photographers and the high caliber of work we represent. We have a roster that is impressive, and include Wikipedia:Philip-Lorca diCorcia, Wikipedia:Bruce Weber, and Wikipedia:Inez van Lamsweerde and Vinoodh Matadin among many others. Our work is published in publications around the world, including Wikipedia: Vogue (magazine), Wikipedia: Vanity Fair (magazine), and Wikipedia: The New York Times.
We function in a similar way to a gallery, and we want to be on our artists pages, much like Wikipedia:David Zwirner is linked to Wikipedia:Philip-Lorca DiCorcia, and Wikipedia:The Collective Shift is linked to Inez and Vindoodh. Their photographs are available for people to look at within our archive for free. Today, many people find out about artists through finding their work on the internet. If people want to see 15 pages (over 1,100 images) of Inez and Vinoodh's work, having Trunk Archive linked to their Wikipedia would offer the public a chance to see this archive. Our photographers have cult followings. Our archive presents an opportunity for fans of our photographers to engage with the work in a way that was not previously possible.
I have many other thoughts on this matter, but I don't want to take up too much of your time at this moment. Would you please enter into a discussion with me? In the spirit of Wikipedia, please present me with the opportunity to clarify my case.
Thank you.
Xmraox ( talk) 16:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Hoary,
Thank you so much for getting back to me.
I really love the collaborative nature of Wikipedia, and if you feel that my editing of articles would help establish me as an editor, I will gladly contribute. I am an unpaid intern for Trunk Archive. I receive school credit for my work here, which is mainly working on Wikipedia, Facebook, and Twitter, so I am learning Wikipedia more and more everyday I work on this project.
We really want to make the Trunk Archive Wikipedia page clean, and we want to be given the chance to establish ourselves as being notable. What are the steps I can take to remove the warnings at the top of the Trunk Archive Wikipedia page?
Thanks again for your help.
Xmraox ( talk) 18:53, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your insight. I will start to post links on the Talk Page to show new articles where we have been covered. Our work is in new publications every day, and so I can point to some of the more recent examples of this, as well as to articles about Trunk Archive. I wish there were some way that I could contribute to the Trunk Archive article so that it would no longer be seen as a stub. There is more to the company than what is written on Wikipedia. Is there any way I can contribute without being flagged? Thanks. Xmraox ( talk) 20:37, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
In the article on Michel Poivert, there is a list of several contemporary photographers which have been included in a collection of monographs. They are: Mathieu Pernot, Gilles Saussier, Stanislas Amand, Philippe Durand, Éric Rondepierre, Arno Gisinger (an Austrian) and Charles Fréger. There are no articles about them in the English WP. I wondered if you had come across any of them and whether you think they should be included. - Ipigott ( talk) 16:58, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments (and for the Ingeborg novel). In fact, I thought a couple of the French contemporary photographers seemed rather interesting from their French WP articles but perhaps not quite interesting enough. I was however rather impressed by the Dane Israel B. Melchior who I came across accidentally. He now has a short article. But while I am here, I would like to have your opinion on WikiBhasha. I've played with the tool myself and it works quite well but the latest long addition to the article seems more like a user guide. I've made a comment on the talk page and also with User talk:WikiBhasha.MSR but there has been no reaction. Any suggestions? - Ipigott ( talk) 17:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 12:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps not surprisingly, most of the photographers behind Time's 2010 "The Year in Pictures" are not yet in Wikipedia. Of the ten in the printed version, only three are in WP. And only one of the additional names in the digital version is covered.
There are already short articles on Lynsey Addario (the only woman) and Adam Ferguson and a rather longer one on James Nachtwey.
Are any of the above interesting enough to be included in WP? If so, in what order of priority?
If you want to go further, only one of those in the digital version is included: Anthony Suau. All the others are still missiing: Callie Shell, Shaul Schwarz, Peter van Agtmael, Dominic Nahr, Richard Mosse, Peter van Agtmael, Mario Tama, Massimo Berruti, Moises Saman. Have fun! - Ipigott ( talk) 14:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
I was going to recommend Daniel Berehulak, because you like his work; I see that you've got him an article. Well done.
My own choice would be Cédric Gerbehaye. But I have to finish other work first. -- Hoary ( talk) 12:46, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Sorry but (perhaps despite appearances a few centimetres above) I don't know the DYK process at all. However, I look forward to rereading the article after I've slept. -- Hoary ( talk) 15:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I once started to read about it but I dozed off before I'd grasped the rudiments. Pity. -- Hoary ( talk) 23:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello Hoary. Do you like the book? -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 17:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, Vlasta Čiháková-Noshiro is a respected Czech Japanologist and curator ... I can't comment on this, as my knowledge of Japanese is non-existent. What about the English translation? Czech z means "of" and also "from", it depends on the context. Is the title "People from Akagi" incorrect or misleading?
The publisher of the book is apparently a local gallery or a town ( Opava and Rychnov nad Kněžnou), and the books of small and occasional publishers are not always professional (I admit, the same sometimes applies for big and respected publishing houses :)). However, the printing quality and technology of specialized art photography publishers in the Czech Rep. (mainly Torst and Kant) is usually very good even today (the owners are fans and connoisseurs and the printing quality is very important for them). -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 09:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey, this is close to my sentimental nature ... I live in a place where I can see the remnants of this old vanishing world, and I admire the people who can see and preserve the everyday reality in such a poetic and beautiful way ... Most of people no longer see the world this way ... Uff, enough of this, nostalgia is on my blacklist :) -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 17:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, "nightmare" is a pretty handy interpretation of such a kind of art. Nevertheless, for me it is a poetry and beauty - there's no intention to shock or scare in the photos, it is just an attempt to picture a raw life through a perceptive eye. The reception depends on cultural background and remains subjective, of course. I admit, it is a strange kind of beauty. What do you think about Francis Bacon (the painter)? His works are often associated with the terms like "horror" and "terror" and "nightmare" and I don't know what ... That's cheap. It is an attempt to come closer to the core of human existence. A successfull and inimitable attempt. Okay stop, I began with my rural philosophizing, and that's bad :)) -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 07:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
When you get a chance, can you look at: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chickamauga Indian when you get a chance, as I respect your opinion, whether for or against. Thanks, GenQuest ( talk) 02:11, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Deletion comment I saw your comment on the Marcou article. Daivd Marcou has 1 of the 3 pictures of Bert Hardy in the NPG. Many pictures of Bert Hardy were taken during his life. Mr. Marcou has had over 1,000 photographs, 2,000 articles, and 30 books published. For most of his life he has worked as a freelance writer. For a representative view of his work look at the Wisconsin Historical Society or LaCrosse history links. Sincerely, Dacorbandit ( talk) 03:38, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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When you mentioned a "less emotive state", I was thinking of Connecticut. But that's probably not what you had in mind. Anyhow, I think the final paragraph you removed, while unsourced and unencyclopedic editorial opinion, was pretty on the mark. Of course, I canceled my subscription after they decided to publish Farber's piece on teh HIV/AIDS conspiracy - because if I know they don't fact-check medical articles, where I can catch them, then why should I trust their writing on subjects where I have to take their word for it? Anyhow... MastCell Talk 17:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I used to read Harper's religiously - among other things, for some time it was one of the few outlets for new creative writing in the US (things are better now). And they do some very interesting and thought-provoking work. Lewis Lapham's columns were always enjoyable reading. On the other hand, I started to pick up a few warning signals over time.
They published an article on the treatment (or lack thereof) of hepatitis C in the US prison system, where it is fairly widespread. The gist was that the US prison system is shitty, which isn't exactly news. But the author was either ignorant of or uninterested in the realities of treating hepatitis C, even outside prison, insofar as those realities would have undercut The Message. I let that slide, but the Farber piece - which was basically a one-way ticket to Crazytown, published with a straight face - was the last straw. That piece clearly had not been fact-checked - at least not by anyone with a working college-level knowledge of biology and immunology. So then I didn't trust them anymore.
Occasionally I see Harper's at the newsstand, and the cover invitingly beckons... but I haven't read it since. Its literary criticism did tend toward the insular and pretentious, but a little bit of that is OK. It's almost charmingly anachronistic in today's world to be snobbish about the work of, say, Somerset Maugham, or even to know who he is.
I have to say I stopped watching Presidential press conferences after Bush left office - they lost the sense of surreal absurdity that made them so worthwhile. I remember when Bush explained the need to waterboard detainees by saying: "These are people who are trained to disassemble!" Apparently he was getting blank stares from the press corps, because he helpfully added: "That means not tell the truth." Or when Ari Fleischer issued "reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do" if they didn't want to get in trouble after 9/11. Those kind of things, that make you look at the person next to you to see if they really happened, are no longer a feature of Presidential press conferences. Although I've bet a friend that Gibbs will ask about Obama's birth certificate during the run-up to this November's elections... MastCell Talk 23:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC) Farber should have realized that the only real solutions come from science. Like, y'know, this stuff (and another tip of the hat to Wonkette). The best WH news conference I've seen is the one created by Colbert. But then I've never seen " Jeff Gannon" at work. -- Hoary ( talk) 23:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Did I spend that long? I thought I'd do a stub in an hour, but I got engrossed. I'm now emailing to see if I can get some free images to use, and it's in the DYK queue as well. But please don't make any more tempting suggestions too soon! Ty
Series of edits undoes most of the improving that has been made in Brazil (with the insertion of a blank line that made it very difficult to see what changes were actually done). I reverted to the last reliable version, and was immediately re-reverted, with this cute edit summary: (Reverting vandalism). Ninguém ( talk) 21:08, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm impressed. You're doing a very thorough job, and personally, I like the results. Good work! And thank you. Pdfpdf ( talk) 12:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Regarding some of your comments: (via http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Surrender_of_Japan&action=historysubmit&diff=380089042&oldid=379968244)
Hmmm. That's a worry; I know the names, but can't remember the positions.
I'll fill in the gaps tomorrow.
Cheers,
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By-the-way, you seem to be linking Sato, but not Malik or Molotov. Any particular reason for that? Pdfpdf ( talk) 12:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Hoary - the work you've been doing on the Surrender article is good, but something is bothering me. You have repeatedly tagged things as vague that could be trivially fixed with one or two google searches. The above paragraph, for example. It was a reference to Kōki Hirota. I didn't know that at first, but I figured it out with exactly 1 google search. Ditto this that I fixed earlier -- searching for that quote on Google Books produces exactly one hit, with a page number. Please spend a minute checking google before tagging the article. Raul654 ( talk) 17:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, according to this, Tanakamura was a fishing fleet owner. Raul654 ( talk) 17:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay, to sum it up:
Now you should be able to access the network via LAN cable as well as via wireless connection. To configure the router (say, if you want to change the wireless password, channel, or encryption setting), access http://ip.you.got.from.techsupport.here. -- 78.43.71.155 ( talk) 17:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
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I'm petitioning to modify the Japanese manual of style to allow the use of tildes/wavedashes/dashes as a method of separating the subtitle from the title of music/other media. Seeing as you were the user who originally put this aspect of the MOS in place, I'd like to get your input at WT:MOS-JA as to why you originally suggested that the tildes et al. should not be used.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 02:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
It is rare to see the word "hoary" in print; but I did stumble across it here in an article about the Richard Lane collection at the Honolulu Academy of Arts:
Is the use of this word as uncommon as I think it is? -- Tenmei ( talk) 14:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
ask User:ScorchingPheonix -- Wikipedian05 ( talk) 07:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Avoid academic boosterism and I have not removed the matelials from the article, just removed them from the lead.-- Wikipedian05 ( talk) 07:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I've submitted the article for formal mediation here and I've named Gnangarra, Factchk, Bilby, Hoary and myself as the main participants. Others are also welcome to participate. Phoenix and Winslow ( talk) 09:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Hoary,
since you haven't added a new comment on your router issue in quite a while, I will stop monitoring your talk page, and assume the problem has been resolved. Since my IP is dynamic (it seems to have a rather long lease time, though), I cannot guarantee that you will be able to reach me via this IP's talk page. Please leave a new message on WP:RD/C should you require further assistance. -- 78.43.71.155 ( talk) 17:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Just a quick note to let you know that an issue involving you has come up at ANI. — DoRD ( talk) 01:27, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Do you think it is pertinent to provide the Japanese pronunciations for letters of the English alphabet as they appear in the titles of (what is in this case) video games and their systems? I had backed down from arguing with Odokee over this matter after the last ANI thread that I had started because of the opposition to this concept that I had been receiving from the uninvolved editors. In short, should Nintendo DSi have in the romanization portion "Nintendō DSi" (the version I self reverted to) or "Nintendō Dī Esu Ai"?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 06:20, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Similar pages: [1], [2], [3], [4].— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 06:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
He doesn't quite get it. Also he's removed it on another page.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 21:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
As (legitimately) suggested by you here in "Talk:Afro-Brazilian", Ninguém sourced most or all of the claims that this or that person named in Afro-Brazilian was "black". While I don't claim that he did this as well as anyone might hope, this work by him strikes me as well-intentioned and solid -- and I imagine that it took him a considerable time. On 18 September, you reacted to it with the comment:
I suppose that this struck him as surprisingly dismissive. (It certainly struck me that way.) He responded:
I wrote a longer reply on this and also on your comments on the desirability of English sources or translations.
You haven't replied, even though your list of contributions shows that you have found time to edit many other articles. Please return to that talk page and respond there. Thank you. -- Hoary ( talk) 08:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually he ignored my protestations and my issues with the sourcing and just stuffed the whole load of what to me looked like weakly claimed color identification back in the article, I took that to be the ignoring of my issues and I removed it off my watchlist so as not to get into a war with him, thanks. As we both know there are multiple issues at the Brazilian race articles that have been continuing for over almost a year now. Ethnicity and color claims of identity have clear BLP issues and would need high quality sourcing, which I did not see, anyways, there is some lengthy committed editing there and I will not be drawn into a war over such issues. I removed it when I saw it as I am required to do as an editor, it was replaced, imo with weak claims, excuse me if that is all the energy I have to resist it. Off2riorob ( talk) 09:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, Hoary. I am having a small problem in Dilma Rousseff. She is at this moment a candidate in Brazilian presidential elections. In the 1960s and 1970s she was part of a communist group financed by Cuba and the defunct Soviet Union which had as goal the creation of a communist dictatorship. Obviously, that does not mean that she wants that nowadays, in 2010. There is an IP (174.91.175.10) who has as sole purpose the goal of removing that piece of information from her article. He has complained about in the talk page (See Talk:Dilma Rousseff#Revolutionary Dictatorship) and did not bother to bring one single source at all to explain why it should be removed. In other words: he is removing that sourced information ( [5]) without sources to back his claim. I've reverted once [6] and he reverted it [7]. I will not revert it a second time and even less a third time. Is there something you could do about it? I am too busy with two articles which I nominated for featured status ( Pedro II of Brazil and Pedro Álvares Cabral) and I don't want to lose my time discussing with an unknown IP. Thanks, -- Lecen ( talk) 18:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Hoary
Could you please delete this redirect Eletrobras to open place for move, it redirects the page to the article Eletrobrás (with diacritic), but Portuguese acronym does not have diacritics, and also, in its official website it's written without the diacritic, but I can't move because a bot inserted a template there. Thank you.-- Luizdl ( talk) 03:50, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello Hoary, I was wondering if you could help me out. I need to get a mirror image of a painting I have found of the old Luxembourg fortifications. It's this one. As you can see, it's a beautiful picture but the version I found happens to be the wrong way round. I have seen authentic copies of the original in several art and history books and this one is definitely wrong. The bridge should be on the left hand side. Perhaps with all your photographic expertise you could fix it yourself and upload the result onto Commons for me. Or if not, perhaps you could direct me to some tool that will do the job. It's quite important as I have used it as the lead image on Bock (Luxembourg). Hope you can help. Cheers. - Ipigott ( talk) 15:22, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
It took rather over 24 hours to finish the work, return home, and catch up on sleep; but I did it. Here's what you'd have to do:
I'll assume that you're using either Windows or Linux. If you're using Mac OS X there'd be minor changes to the following:
Done!
Twenty-eight hours rather than 24, sorry. Of course I knew that this would take mere seconds, but I didn't want to be bothered to go through the rigmarole of answering the questions needed to upload it. However, that turned out to be a lot less arduous than I had misremembered.
Gimp is an excellent program. Its interface takes a bit of getting used to, but Gimp (free) plus a book about it seems to me a better value than Photoshop or similar, and then adding Gimp to any other computer (just about any computer made this century) will cost you nothing extra. -- Hoary ( talk) 02:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
As you may have noticed, I've started to do a bit more on Danish photographers. I think I have run into probems with the photographs of Benedicte Wrensted I've loaded up on Commons here. When I loaded them up, I used the "author died more than 70 yrs ago" licence but now I realise that as she died in 1949, that condition does not yet apply. I suppose that at least the first two (taken in Denmark) should therefore be removed. And I now have doubts about the third one too. Even though it was taken in the States in 1898, it was probably never "published" and therefore might not be outside copyright restrictions. Would you therefore be kind enough to remove all three of them - unless I have misunderstood the rules. - Ipigott ( talk) 11:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, Hoary, very much, for your kind words regarding my response to an issue at BLPN. Much appreciated, -- Cirt ( talk) 11:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
As you were involved i this issue, I am notifying you of this discussion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 October 15#Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Darin Fidika. Please participate if you wish. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 15:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes thanks, known bug. Caused by a MediaWiki bug. Corrected normally by SmackBot on the fly but since SmackBot is under interdiction for changing {{
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Farmbrough, 11:52, 23 October 2010 (UTC).
Hi Hoary - just had a look back at the Bob Whitaker article and I like your suggestion. I think it's an important photo, culturally, so I'd hate to see all that material just deleted, but I agree the broader discussion of the photo's own 'career' isn't all that relevant to Bob's actual life and career, so yeah, I think that would be great. Thanks.
Dunks ( talk) 05:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the fix at Baker's article.
Tangentially: I'd forgotten how he arrived on my watchlist; so after following the talkpage explanation, I had the chance to review my handful of interactions with him at User talk:Wageless. Ha! This is still one of my favourite edits. We need more of that around here. :)
Best, -- Quiddity ( talk) 18:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
There have been crazy things going on here that have become epic to say the least. I can't tell from where things are comming from but it's everything, copyright, harrassment, stalking who knows what else. I don't think WP will suffer any blow back but I and a few others sure have.
Even though this is not my real name I was even contacted by my old boss and reminded that I had signed papers to keep me quiet a few years back!
Is there anything I can do to extract myself from WP? Myraedison ( talk) 20:04, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I would have to say it went far beyond silliness. One of the sites used as a reference for Daniel Colegrove stored pages and documents for many other buried journalism stories. They began getting threats of all kinds from every direction so rather than deal with it they packed up and left the Internet. Not good, they were a valuable resource for some things and may have been referenced here a lot. Myraedison ( talk) 15:30, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
OEP's website digitalphotojournalist.org, when they started to get blow back from this controversy they packed up their stuff published on the internet and split. The site was just a few pages (they got cagey about things in like 2004 or 5) but there were hundreds of scans, images and other documents behind it in non indexed files on the server, you had to email them to get the links Myraedison ( talk) 16:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I feel we should leave the categories as such for now.Creating new sub categories may be case of over categorisation. We should wait for some months before revising this . However if you feel strongly please go ahead.Thanks Shyamsunder ( talk) 05:41, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Regarding this warning you left for the IP who's been commenting at Talk:James Randi, if I'm not mistaken he was altering his own comments, which I believe he's allowed to do. I changed it back to his altered version. Please feel to double check to make sure I got it right. Histories can be confusing that way. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 10:43, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Hoary - looks like a lot of changes have occurred recently on the Chris Mosdell page, some very good, and some clearly requiring better references. I'll be happy to make those additions. One concern to me is the disappearance of the wiki entry for the documentary film about Mosdell (Ink Music: In the Land of the Hundred-Tongued Lyricist) as well as all of its associated links to the various artists involved in the film. How can this entry be recovered? And any knowledge why it was deleted in the first place? Thanks for your help. Bkce23 ( talk) 19:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
OK, I've put together a short piece on her. I was surprised to find there was no mention of her anywhere in the English WP. Perhaps you can drop her name into one or two relevant artciles. - Ipigott ( talk) 16:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Nice tidy-up on Ian Fleming. Can I just ask you one thing please? I see that you changed "entitled" to "titled" - do you have a strong feeling that "entitled" is wrong? To me "titled" sounds wrong, but it could just be my higgerance and lack of education showing. Can you please clarify? NB - this really is a genuine enquiry, not a fishing trip or an attempt to start a flame war! Thanks and best wishes DBaK ( talk) 12:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Without actually bothering to look in any dictionary (let alone style guide), I'd say offhand that "entitle" as a verb either has irrelevant meanings ("your achievement entitles you to promotion", etc) or is a slightly grandiose alternative to "title". Vladimir Nabokov wrote a short piece "On a book entitled Lolita" (if I remember correctly); and thus "entitle" is fine; if you prefer it, feel free to revert me. -- Hoary ( talk) 13:31, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I just wanted to thank you for bringing that AFD information to my attention. Thanks again! :) Endofskull ( talk) 17:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Nbaka is no a joke is attempting block evasion, but a SPI admin believes no conditions apply to creation of Basil Rock. [8] The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous ( talk) 23:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
If I were the type to jump on other people's bandwagons I would award you Raul's brick of common sense for this comment: [9]. Reality-based community. Oh yes, we could do with some more of that alright. Guy ( Help!) 23:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
So now I've started looking at "Luxembourgian" photographers and was surprised to see that although you once had a look at this article, you let most of the bragging go by. Don't you think some of the superlatives should be edited out? And how about adding your advertising tag, not to mention the quality of her self portrait??? I'll leave it to you. - Ipigott ( talk) 16:36, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
I think you are being too kind. You don't have to be an expert on garden photography to detect all the hype. In addition, the article bears an uncanny resemblence to MM's website. And she's pushing all those who belong to her enterprise: Andrew Lawson, Steven Gunther, Fiona McLeod, Bennet Smith, Simon Meaker and Claire Takacs, although not one of them is yet in Wikipedia. I agree with you btw that Majerus deserves an article. But it should be based on third party sources rather than her own. She does appear in the Luxemburger Lexikon. I've made a few adjustments to the article myself. - Ipigott ( talk) 08:55, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Re.: 76.24.193.240. Can you review this account and re-block? All this person has done for a year has been sophomoric vandalism. Thanks GenQuest ( talk) 19:37, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
In my current work on Luxembourg photography, I frequently come across Nobel prize-winner Gabriel Lippmann (born in Luxembourg but considered to be just as French as Luxembourgish) who invented what is now known as the Lippmann plate, one of the most important inventions in the early days of colour photography. Am I right in thinking that Lippmann should come firmly within the coverage of WikiProject History of photography? If so, I think we should make a real effort to improve the article, perhaps aiming for a GA. Maybe you know members of the project who have the right kind of background here. If not, I could always have a go myself. There are plenty of excellent sources. - Ipigott ( talk) 15:01, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Dicklyon certainly seems to have the right kind of expertise and the right interests. His year off is nearly over and so he should be back on board in January. Perhaps I'll wait until then. I'll see how things go. As for the moribund state of HoP, it's my impression that most of the WikiProjects seem to be in a pretty sorry state. Nevertheless, from time to time interesting new people turn up and you never know when a really good new article might appear out of the blue. - Ipigott ( talk) 08:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
PS I've taken a first look. Even the footnotes make little sense; I spent quite a few minutes sorting out just two of them. I noticed that Dicklyon had already made some edits to the article, though I didn't investigate what these were. -- Hoary ( talk) 14:08, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Hoary: 1st & foremost, thanks a-much for your hyper-intelligent tweaks to the Boston Camera Club article.
I've posted some discussion on its Talk page, the gist of which says, one, I am still deeply occluded as to know where the, or a, centralized discussion/thread about this, or any, article takes place. I know you commented on my 'My talk' page (itself confusing: why there? Why not on the article's Talk page?) and I know you instruct me to reply there, but I mistrust how that will get pushed to *you*. Hence, begging your indulgence, could you take a look at what I posted on Boston CC:Talk?
Secondly, it has a couple of Q's about your tweaks.
Thanks again. I'm sure we'll be in touch. Photo history seems to be undergoing something of a Grosses Bang on der Wiki, ja? Thanks in part to you, no doubt? Jimlue ( talk) 08:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations on getting this through. Unfortunately it's sorted under P. I'm not too sure how to sort categories - so perhaps you can help. I suppose I can now also create Category:Photography in Luxembourg without any trouble. - Ipigott ( talk) 20:03, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I wasn't aware that teh pr0nz had its own delsort category, thanks. pablo 13:46, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello Hoary. I hope you are well. I created this article in a moment of sudden inspiration (there is a little association with photography - author is the brother of a very well known Czech photographer, but the topic is completely different). The author and his works are unknown outside of my country (the refs are only in Czech), but in the Czech Republic he is considered a legend (his large and excellent monography was sold out in one week!) Would you mind to look at it and check the grammar and fluency of my English? No problem if you are not interested - I'm just asking and I don't want to bother you ... But I think you might be interested. Feel free to ask whatever. Thanks. Best regards. -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 12:39, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I am writing on behalf of Trunk Archive.
We represent photographers, and have been trying to broaden Wikipedia's information to include us on the pages of our photographers, and to be able to list the photographers we represent on our Wikipedia page. Originally, my boss hired some interns who did not know what they were doing. It is part of my job to clean up their mess. Having multiple interns is one reason why there were so many different accounts editing Wikipedia. Going forward, we want to clean up Wikipedia:Trunk Archive, and untangle the whole situation. I respect your efforts to make Wikipedia an honest place, and Trunk Archive does not want to impede the efforts of Wikipedians of that goal, and we do not want to be tarnished because of mistakes that were made in the past.
I have been extensively reading Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest and I understand that Wikipedians are strongly discouraged from editing articles related to themselves or their organization. I respect Wikipedia's mission, and would not want to contribute anything to Wikipedia that I did not feel was worthy of being a part of this center of public knowledge, that was biased, self-promoting, and not generally useful information.
I would really appreciate if you would engage in a discussion with me about why Trunk Archive is different from Wikipedia:Getty Images, Inc. or Wikipedia:Corbis Corporation. Internationally we are known for our photographers and the high caliber of work we represent. We have a roster that is impressive, and include Wikipedia:Philip-Lorca diCorcia, Wikipedia:Bruce Weber, and Wikipedia:Inez van Lamsweerde and Vinoodh Matadin among many others. Our work is published in publications around the world, including Wikipedia: Vogue (magazine), Wikipedia: Vanity Fair (magazine), and Wikipedia: The New York Times.
We function in a similar way to a gallery, and we want to be on our artists pages, much like Wikipedia:David Zwirner is linked to Wikipedia:Philip-Lorca DiCorcia, and Wikipedia:The Collective Shift is linked to Inez and Vindoodh. Their photographs are available for people to look at within our archive for free. Today, many people find out about artists through finding their work on the internet. If people want to see 15 pages (over 1,100 images) of Inez and Vinoodh's work, having Trunk Archive linked to their Wikipedia would offer the public a chance to see this archive. Our photographers have cult followings. Our archive presents an opportunity for fans of our photographers to engage with the work in a way that was not previously possible.
I have many other thoughts on this matter, but I don't want to take up too much of your time at this moment. Would you please enter into a discussion with me? In the spirit of Wikipedia, please present me with the opportunity to clarify my case.
Thank you.
Xmraox ( talk) 16:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Hoary,
Thank you so much for getting back to me.
I really love the collaborative nature of Wikipedia, and if you feel that my editing of articles would help establish me as an editor, I will gladly contribute. I am an unpaid intern for Trunk Archive. I receive school credit for my work here, which is mainly working on Wikipedia, Facebook, and Twitter, so I am learning Wikipedia more and more everyday I work on this project.
We really want to make the Trunk Archive Wikipedia page clean, and we want to be given the chance to establish ourselves as being notable. What are the steps I can take to remove the warnings at the top of the Trunk Archive Wikipedia page?
Thanks again for your help.
Xmraox ( talk) 18:53, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your insight. I will start to post links on the Talk Page to show new articles where we have been covered. Our work is in new publications every day, and so I can point to some of the more recent examples of this, as well as to articles about Trunk Archive. I wish there were some way that I could contribute to the Trunk Archive article so that it would no longer be seen as a stub. There is more to the company than what is written on Wikipedia. Is there any way I can contribute without being flagged? Thanks. Xmraox ( talk) 20:37, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
In the article on Michel Poivert, there is a list of several contemporary photographers which have been included in a collection of monographs. They are: Mathieu Pernot, Gilles Saussier, Stanislas Amand, Philippe Durand, Éric Rondepierre, Arno Gisinger (an Austrian) and Charles Fréger. There are no articles about them in the English WP. I wondered if you had come across any of them and whether you think they should be included. - Ipigott ( talk) 16:58, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments (and for the Ingeborg novel). In fact, I thought a couple of the French contemporary photographers seemed rather interesting from their French WP articles but perhaps not quite interesting enough. I was however rather impressed by the Dane Israel B. Melchior who I came across accidentally. He now has a short article. But while I am here, I would like to have your opinion on WikiBhasha. I've played with the tool myself and it works quite well but the latest long addition to the article seems more like a user guide. I've made a comment on the talk page and also with User talk:WikiBhasha.MSR but there has been no reaction. Any suggestions? - Ipigott ( talk) 17:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
![]() | On 11 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lips Tullian, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the comic series Lips Tullian was selected as the third most significant Czech comic in the history of the genre? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 12:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps not surprisingly, most of the photographers behind Time's 2010 "The Year in Pictures" are not yet in Wikipedia. Of the ten in the printed version, only three are in WP. And only one of the additional names in the digital version is covered.
There are already short articles on Lynsey Addario (the only woman) and Adam Ferguson and a rather longer one on James Nachtwey.
Are any of the above interesting enough to be included in WP? If so, in what order of priority?
If you want to go further, only one of those in the digital version is included: Anthony Suau. All the others are still missiing: Callie Shell, Shaul Schwarz, Peter van Agtmael, Dominic Nahr, Richard Mosse, Peter van Agtmael, Mario Tama, Massimo Berruti, Moises Saman. Have fun! - Ipigott ( talk) 14:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
I was going to recommend Daniel Berehulak, because you like his work; I see that you've got him an article. Well done.
My own choice would be Cédric Gerbehaye. But I have to finish other work first. -- Hoary ( talk) 12:46, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Sorry but (perhaps despite appearances a few centimetres above) I don't know the DYK process at all. However, I look forward to rereading the article after I've slept. -- Hoary ( talk) 15:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I once started to read about it but I dozed off before I'd grasped the rudiments. Pity. -- Hoary ( talk) 23:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello Hoary. Do you like the book? -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 17:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, Vlasta Čiháková-Noshiro is a respected Czech Japanologist and curator ... I can't comment on this, as my knowledge of Japanese is non-existent. What about the English translation? Czech z means "of" and also "from", it depends on the context. Is the title "People from Akagi" incorrect or misleading?
The publisher of the book is apparently a local gallery or a town ( Opava and Rychnov nad Kněžnou), and the books of small and occasional publishers are not always professional (I admit, the same sometimes applies for big and respected publishing houses :)). However, the printing quality and technology of specialized art photography publishers in the Czech Rep. (mainly Torst and Kant) is usually very good even today (the owners are fans and connoisseurs and the printing quality is very important for them). -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 09:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey, this is close to my sentimental nature ... I live in a place where I can see the remnants of this old vanishing world, and I admire the people who can see and preserve the everyday reality in such a poetic and beautiful way ... Most of people no longer see the world this way ... Uff, enough of this, nostalgia is on my blacklist :) -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 17:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, "nightmare" is a pretty handy interpretation of such a kind of art. Nevertheless, for me it is a poetry and beauty - there's no intention to shock or scare in the photos, it is just an attempt to picture a raw life through a perceptive eye. The reception depends on cultural background and remains subjective, of course. I admit, it is a strange kind of beauty. What do you think about Francis Bacon (the painter)? His works are often associated with the terms like "horror" and "terror" and "nightmare" and I don't know what ... That's cheap. It is an attempt to come closer to the core of human existence. A successfull and inimitable attempt. Okay stop, I began with my rural philosophizing, and that's bad :)) -- Vejvančický ( talk | contribs) 07:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
When you get a chance, can you look at: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chickamauga Indian when you get a chance, as I respect your opinion, whether for or against. Thanks, GenQuest ( talk) 02:11, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Deletion comment I saw your comment on the Marcou article. Daivd Marcou has 1 of the 3 pictures of Bert Hardy in the NPG. Many pictures of Bert Hardy were taken during his life. Mr. Marcou has had over 1,000 photographs, 2,000 articles, and 30 books published. For most of his life he has worked as a freelance writer. For a representative view of his work look at the Wisconsin Historical Society or LaCrosse history links. Sincerely, Dacorbandit ( talk) 03:38, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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