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Sometimes when I'm loading Wikipedia (the English version, I haven't tried the other versions for a while), it looks like I'm not logged in. A "log in" link appears in the upper right corner of the side, and a "Try beta" link next to it. However, when I click the "Try beta" link, all the links that are displayed when logged in appears. So apparently, I am logged in after all.
I have noticed this bug for a few months now. I'm running Windows 7. And I'm using FireFox, which I always have updated to the latest version. -- Kri ( talk) 12:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Every so often I read through old posts and I often find links to discussions that have been already been archived. It would be nice if the anchor didn't exist it would be copied into the search box. — Dispenser 03:36, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
document.getElementById(location.hash.substring(1))!=null
would be able to tell. But I'm thinking that we should just copy it regardless to the search box. —
Dispenser 15:50, 16 January 2010 (UTC)We need to be able to search within our own, and other's, user contributions. Post this to bugzilla. 174.3.106.27 ( talk) 01:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Can anyone see why {{ iw-ref}} is generating the text "the equivalent article" instead of the article name where I used it in Martín Alonso Pinzón? A quick look at the documentation says I did this right, and a quick look at the code suggests that the intent is that it would show the article name. - Jmabel | Talk 06:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there a hack going on because there was a 1,311 second server lag and then when I tried to click my username it said "Oh dear! Our JSON query went down the drain?" -- macbookair3140 ( talk) 02:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
"Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 2,249 seconds may not appear in this list."
Is something going on that there is a database lag of 1407 seconds? Every time I mention a concern about tidying up unwanted odds and ends at bots, people assure me the servers are robust and nothing could ever slow them down. So, how do we go from there to a 12 minute database server lag? -- IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Is this the run around helpless screaming kind of panic?, or the rioting kind of panic, torching buildings and going vigilante and beating up criminals?-- Jac16888 Talk 03:12, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
It's about time to give the DB server a three-finger salute, I'd say. — DoRD ( talk) 03:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Strange not having a working watchlist. I feel all blind and naked. Equazcion (talk) 03:44, 16 Jan 2010 (UTC)
Its nearly up to 9000 now, clearly the End of Days has come. We should all go join Conservapedia so that we get into heaven, rather than being sent to hell for being terrible left-wing liberals-- Jac16888 Talk 04:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm going for the obvious; it will definitely be OVER 9,000!!! (you may thank me now for getting the obvious Internet meme out of the way.) Nate • ( chatter) 04:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Thought admittedly not as evil as voting, which is of course undisputedly the spawn of Satan. Equazcion (talk) 04:17, 16 Jan 2010 (UTC)
Nobody seems to have noticed-- Jac16888 Talk 04:18, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Going down. Peak was 8,906
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> haneʼ 04:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Looks like I missed all of the fun!
—
V = I * R (
talk to Ohms law) 23:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
The pleasant and good-natured banter that results when editors can do nothing about whatever situation is 'teh dramaz' of the day, never ceases to boost my morale. It shows that we're never more than one (giant) step away from that ideal in the flaming drama-fests that are unfortunately much more common. Happy‑ melon 13:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Which CSS are files are needed to properly render the contents of an article? Where are classes such as "printonly" defined? -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 08:32, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Following a WP:AWB
bug report I'm wondering if article
List of characters in Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi has a non-printing Unicode character at the end of it, because the C# system HttpUtility.UrlEncode
function returns the name string with "%e2%80%8e" unexpectedly appended to it (plus the correct changes to spaces and accented letter). If I type the article name out by hand "%e2%80%8e" doesn't get appended, as expected. I don't know how to check the raw title of a page, can somebody help? Thanks
Rjwilmsi 11:15, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
javascript:alert(escape(wgTitle))
on that page nor inspecting
[1] in hex-editor. I think the article title is okay.
Svick (
talk) 12:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I asked this on the Help page but realised this might be a better place. While pruning my watchlist of watched user pages, I somehow deleted 3000 articles I'm watching. As the article names showed up still on the edit page I did a copy and paste, but although my watchlist now looks ok to my uneducated eye, it doesn't show any changes to articles. Is there a simple reason why? Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 12:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Please see the discussion at the help desk and reply to it here as something strange happened on New Year's Day. Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 17:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I use the greenscreen gadget to prevent the eyestrain I would otherwise get using Wikipedia. I have noticed that on a few usertalk pages (for example, User talk:The ed17, the text appears as black on a black background, which is rather less than ideal. Does anyone know what causes this, and how to fix it? Thanks, DuncanHill ( talk) 00:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry if this is a FAQ (it's not on the actual FAQ!) but are there any tools to scour the database to see what articles/pages two (named) editors have edited in common? Thanks, Bongo matic 04:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
If we reference one source except for minor differences, such as the same book but different pages in it, the normal solution fails if a later editor resequences the main text. More flexible reference tagging is needed.
Problem: Example (invented):
“New York is a city[1] and a state[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.”
This has too much redundancy. It's generated from “New York is a city<ref>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.</ref> and a state<ref>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.</ref> with rivers.”
For more compactness, we try the name attribute:
“New York is a city<ref name="NYG">New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523).</ref> and a state<ref name="NYG" /> with rivers.”
“1. a b New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523).”
But that omits page numbers, so we go back to the longer form, only now we edit the shared part of references to be shorter after the first reference and add the page numbers:
“New York is a city<ref>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.</ref> and a state<ref>New York Geography, above, p. 7.</ref> with rivers.”
This generates a nice result:
“New York is a city[1] and a state[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, above, p. 7.”
Until someone wants to change the order of the referents, that is. Imagine someone else decides that putting the city before the state is locally chauvinist and that from a worldwide perspective the larger and enclosing political unit should come first (never mind whether you agree with that, just suppose an editor decides that). So they edit the main text:
“New York is a state<ref>New York Geography, above, p. 7.</ref> and city<ref>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.</ref> with rivers.”
Here's what'll appear on the article page:
“New York is a state[1] and a city[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, above, p. 4.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.”
Not so readable or accurate: the “above” becomes wrong. And while the editor probably should have moved parts of the references around, if in the main text they're moving not just words but entire paragraphs or sections then that editing of references is unlikely to be done and a bot probably can't be designed to catch it consistently.
Proposal: I suggest a new attribute for <ref>, group="", and two new tags to be nested within <ref name="" group="">. . . .</ref>. They're <long>. . . .</long> and <short>. . . .</short>.
Whenever reflist generates references from referents with the same group="" attribute, the first such reference in order of numbering would state whatever is within <long>. . . .</long> and not what's within <short>. . . .</short>; all other references based on the same group="" value would state whatever is within <short>. . . .</short> and not what's within <long>. . . .</long>; and whatever is within <ref group="">. . . .</ref> but not within either of the two new tags could then be unique, appearing perhaps only once.
In the edit field, both new tags would be simultaneously used, in the form of <ref group="">. . . .<long>. . . .</long>. . . .<short>. . . .</short>. . . .</ref>. Also acceptable would be <ref group="">. . . .<short>. . . .</short>. . . .<long>. . . .</long>. . . .</ref>; the order wouldn't change the meaning. Also acceptable would be <ref group="">. . . .<long>. . . .</long>. . . .</ref> and <ref group="">. . . .<short>. . . .</short>. . . .</ref>. Every ellipsis represents an optional fill-in, although normally nothing would appear for the first ellipsis or between the </long> or </short> closing tag and the subsequent <short> or <long> opening tag. If, for one group value, <long>. . . .</long> occurs more than once, all instances of <long>. . . .</long> in the group would be ignored. If, for one group value, <short>. . . .</short> occurs more than once, all instances of <short>. . . .</short> in the group would be ignored.
The values of group="" and name="" would be independent; coincidence would not be required.
From the example above:
<ref name="NYG" group="NYG"><long>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523)</long><short>New York Geography</short>, p. 4.</ref>.
<ref name="NYG" group="NYG">, p. 7.</ref>.
Result, in a display:
“New York is a city[1] and a state[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, p. 7.”
If an editor reverses the referents without editing their content:
“New York is a state[1] and a city[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, p. 4.”
If <ref name="NYG" /> is in the main text, such as if a third referent was added, the short form would be implied, based on a <ref name="NYG" group=""> somewhere, e.g.:
“New York is a state<ref name="NYG" group="NYG"><long>. . . .</long><short>. . . .</short>. . . .</ref> and a city<ref group="NYG">. . . .</ref> with rivers and has been written about again<ref name="NYG" /> and again.<ref name="NYG" />”
“New York is a state[1] and a city[2] with rivers and has been written about again[3] and again.[3]"
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, p. 4.”
“3. a b New York Geography”
For the empty tags, the group attribute is unnecessary, but the name and group attributes must occur in at least one ref tag somewhere so the tag sets can be associated.
The only anomalous bit is the end-of-reference punctuation: depending on what an author does, a final period would sometimes appear and sometimes not, so, for consistency, an author might omit final periods in all cases where possible.
In the technical implementation, the tags would be meaningless if they appear outside of ref group="" ref or if the group attribute is absent or its value is null. The content of the tags would be treated as if the meaningless tags just weren't there.
As name="" serves a different purpose, it's optional.
Thank you.
Nick Levinson ( talk) 03:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure where to suggest these changes, but I'll make them here. At the bottom of the page for "printable version", is there a need to put "Contact us"? Smallman12q ( talk) 17:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone else missing the external tools links at the top of a history page, bizarrely its only happening in firefox, they're still there in IE-- Jac16888 Talk 22:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
{{ POTD}} includes the text "We are specialized in mobile software development provide new technology software in mobile, such as e-learning mobile software, mobile clips, festival theme etc." and the link http://www.microxsolutions.com/mobile-development.php -- Ronz ( talk) 05:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed at
Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bwilkins 2 that {{Special:Prefixindex/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bwilkins}}
doesn't seem to bold the circular link (i.e., there is a link to the Bwilkins 2 RfA within the Bwilkins 2 RfA, but it shows up as a regular link instead of as bold). This is different than what normally happens (e.g., [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)]]
on this page yields
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) instead of
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)). Anyone know why?
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 23:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The New York Magazine is reporting that the New York Times is going to cease providing free content and will install a "metered" payment system. Please see Wikipedia:Using WebCite for information on how to archive NY Times articles in Wikipedia before they disappear behind a paywall.-- Blargh29 ( talk) 22:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Apologies in advance if this had already been covered before, but I just noticed that a small change can cause hundreds characters and sections to display text like: "?uniq216fca307a11cbc6-nowiki-00000015-qinu?"
in otherwise normal pages. The problem happens in both IE and Firefox so I don't think it's browser dependent.
As an example: look at this old version of a help page. All of the sections below Easy template problem appear to be effected, with their titles turning to all lowercase letters, with section editing disabled, and with massive deletion of data in some of the sections. For example, look at how short this section is (with its new lowercase title) despite the fact that a long conversation is still visible in edit mode - compared to the correct version (note - no changes to this section, but now everything is visible and the title is propercase again). You can see the offending code which was added by someone over the last 6 months in my last edit which seemed to fix the problem. (strange part is that this code is in a section which was added long before my affected conversation took place)
What's really scary is that this data is so completely deleted that if the missing sections included a link to another WP page when you go to the "what links here" section on that other page it won't even know that the hidden text in the Help article has a link there. Perhaps that's unclear - and I could go on and on about how strange this seems, but I want to start the topic first so that the experts can calm me down if this is no big deal. 7 04:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I have no idea where to ask this question so I thought I would try here.
As far as understand the server time is set to the time at its geographical location (ie Florida?). Now isn't this a little geocentric?? WP is global so does it not make sense to set the time as GMT, or better still the time of the international date line. Here in New Zealand we are one of the first countries to see the Sun consequently, I cannot create date related pages with with MY date!! I have fallen foul of a bot on occasion because of this difference. -- Alan Liefting ( talk) - 06:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Editors may like to have their say on this proposal to rationalise the rather long list of Latin characters (the one that now starts with Á á Ć ć É é Í í Ĺ ĺ Ń ń ...).
– ⊥¡ɐɔıʇǝoNoetica! T– 07:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I am trying to debug a monobook script (JavaScript) using Firebug - not having the best of luck. Are there any other reccomended javascript debuggers for Firefox?
thanks, Harry DarkStarHarry ( talk) 14:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I've tried to add support for a ref parameter (as is used in the other citation templates) to {{
cite thesis}}. However, my code does not appear to work:
{{#if {{{ref|}}}|id="{{anchorencode:{{{ref}}}}}"}}
Could someone take a look at it and fix it if possible? Thanks.
Kaldari (
talk) 18:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#if
would help.
Algebraist 18:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
So I recently archived a big list of links from the WP:DERM:MA talk page to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Dermatology_task_force/Missing_articles/Archive_1#Required_Redirects; however, the archived discussion has a "content" index at the beginning. How do I remove that? Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 18:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Test wikEdbeta! Featuring powerful template and reference hiding and the new image preview, powered by a real wikicode parser, and with WYSIWYG table editing soon to be rolling out! Experience next generation editing today while others still wait for the main release after the upcoming Firefox 3.6 release.*
Simply disable wikEd as a gadget in your preferences, add "importScript('User:Cacycle/wikEd_dev.js');" to
your skin.js page, push Shift-Reload, and enjoy. And leave your comments on the
wikEd discussion page. Don't forget to try the
button...
(*The Firefox 3.5 bug 519076 slows the addition of long highlighted texts somewhat down. wikEd does not work under Internet Explorer or Opera. Also, I just noticed that 'new section' editing has a bug...) Cacycle ( talk) 23:13, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
Sometime in the past six months, one Hong Kong newspaper changed their content management system URLs slightly without bothering to leave behind redirects, so all the old links to them are broken. I'm thinking this could be fixed automatically by a bot, but I don't know if anyone already has/runs a bot which could do something along these lines.
Basically links in the old format
Become:
I.e. archive_news_detail.asp becomes news_detail.asp, archive_d_str becomes d_str, and you need a new parameter sear_year which is just the first four characters from d_str. See here for an example of me doing it manually. Any pointers? Thanks, cab ( talk) 06:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
This may be a problem at my side, not something wrong with Wikipedia, but some solution is still welcome. When I try to sign manually, I get ´~´~´~´~ instead of ~~~~. Similarly, I get ´{~} instead of {} This only started today, I have never had this before. I am using an Azerty keyboard, Belgian layout, and Firefox 3.0., and everything works as it should in e.g. Microsft Word. Any ideas? Fram ( talk) 12:30, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I am copying this from my talk page as it seems like somethiung that people here may know more about than I do. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 13:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
For some unexplained reason the "Page size" tool has disappeared from my left-hand toolbox. It reappears as a deadlink when I am in edit mode, like now, but otherwise it has vanished. Can you advise me how to get it back? I find it a pretty essential tool. Sorry to trouble you. Brianboulton ( talk) 10:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm in the process of redesigning my user page. I am aware that there are some tools that analyse contributions by a user. In the mid-term I may want to request the admin tool box once I hit 10K edits later this year. It would be nice to be able to lay out on my user page some analysis of what I have done beyond what is there already. The important analytical dimensions I can think of are:
What tools would people recommend for these purposes? Are there any others you can recommend for things I haven't thought of. Thanks-- Peter cohen ( talk) 23:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
This probably has some simple answer, but recently my TOCs keep showing up as collapsed by default instead of open by default. Is this something that I've done? I've asked around and most others aren't seeing it. Gigs ( talk) 05:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
The move-tool page includes an option to suppress creation of a Rdr for the moved page, or of one for each of the two being moved. Usually an article worth moving has a talk page, but the main-namespace page that will take over the moved page's title is unlikely to initially need any talk. I've responded to this situation in various ways. The full range of choices that occurs to me is:
Note that only the last 2 avoid breaking any existing links from other talk pages, in ways whose repair probably require (brief or extensive) consultation of edit histories.
On reflection, i'm inclined to think that immediate soft Rdr is the right approach (soft-Rdr only-when-needed will not occur to many discussion-starting editors, especially the non-signing IPs who often initiate on a page's talk; hard Rdr as talk page content -- for a main-namespace page that was only briefly a Rdr -- violates the
principle of least astonishment, and in fact can create complete frustration on the part of the user: Rdr'n to an article is often unsurprising & the "Rdr'd from..." notice can go unnoticed without harm; in contrast, Rdr'n to a talk page that is only tenuously and perhaps cryptically related to a corresponding un-Rdr'd main-namespace page can be "indistinguishable from [evil] magic", and very off-putting to a non wiki-editor.
I came to VPT intending to suggest changing the move to so that creation of main-namespace and talk Rdrs become separable from each other. If others support my new insight abt soft Rdrs, i suggest that the move tool at least to have a red-tinged message drawing attention to something like
WP:Soft redirect, whenever a combined main-namespace/talk page move is requested.
It might in fact be a good idea, whenever a talk page is moved (even separately) without explicit suppression of Rdr (ands without explicit request for a "hard" Rdr), for the move tool to leave behind a soft Rdr rather than a plain "hard" one.
--
Jerzy•
t 23:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Clicking on File:Apollo 11 Tapes Report.pdf and then "open PDF" brings up Adobe Reader with a blank page and an error message. If I enter "File:Apollo 11 Tapes Report.pdf" into the search box it works. Is this a bug? Bubba73 (Who's attacking me now?), 00:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I have the problem with Firefox and I am using some sort of add-on for PDFs in it. Bubba73 (Who's attacking me now?), 03:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Hm, using Firefox, and it looks pretty clear to me. Woogee ( talk) 22:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I created a table that works fine in my Sandbox, but when I go to put it on the article it's intended for, it screws up. The problem is that I want to keep a background color in the table (a soft pastel green), and also have a dark green border. But when I save it to the article, it surrounds everything below the table with the dark green border, and fills the whole lower part of the article with the light pastel green color. I've tried to do everything I could think of, and have been working on it for hours, all to know avail. Does anyone who knows about table design have time to look at this? I would be so grateful! Here is my Sandbox (to see how it's supposed to look): User:Saukkomies/My Sandbox
And here is the article where it isn't working right: House burning of the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture
You'll see the table when you get there, you can't miss it. It's entitled: Periodization table of Neolithic cultures that practiced house burning Thanks! -- Saukkomies talk 06:24, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
For some reason, an extra line is added immediately before {{ NYinttop}} wherever it's used. Similarly, this revision of {{ Jcttop}} did the same thing until I came up with a workaround this morning. This is probably a MediaWiki bug, but does anyone know of a workaround that can be used to eliminate the extra line in the meantime? (As a side note, the presence of the extra line is only noticeable when the template is preceded by another blank line separating the template from a paragraph; however, I'd appreciate a better workaround than removing that line.) – T M F 12:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
*
, #
, :
, ;
or {|
automatically get a newline at the start" (and similarly at
Help:Newlines and spaces#Automatic newline at the start: "Templates starting with *
, #
, or :
automatically get a newline at the start"). In which case, obscuring the start character(s) with a dummy template may help. —
Richardguk (
talk) 18:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
<table><tr><td>...</td></tr></table>
HTML syntax instead of wikitable syntax, as this is not senstive to line breaks in the code....<LINEBREAK>{|{}}| class="wikitable"...
This seems to translate to if the optional text applies, end it with a linebreak and the opening brace of a wikitable-start; otherwise just have the opening brace of a wikitable-start; then close the pair of braces from the opening #if; then add a pipe to turn the table brace (from either the true or false part of the long #if) into wikitable markup "{|"; then apply the 'wikitable' class.... It's not clear to me why the {|
wikitable markup has been split across the closing pair of braces rather than falling entirely within or (more simply) following the initial conditional code. Maybe changing the code to ...|}}<LINEBREAK>{| class="wikitable"...
would clarify things.This is T14974. Happy‑ melon 00:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I can't seem to find "E-mail User" on the toolbox (or anywhere) on the left side of the page on user pages and user talk pages in which I know they have e-mail enabled. I can always use Special:Email but I'm confused as to why I cannot find it in the toolbox where it always has been. There's no reason that I shouldn't be seeing it as I'm an admin and definitely not blocked and I haven't heard anything about a developer changing the coding to remove the Email User link. Thanks, Valley2 city‽ 15:47, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
At Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom, the transcluded feed of related changes started distrupting the headers for all the sections on the page: [3] . This had been working fine before, but today the page headers went wacky and the only thing that has been able to restore them is removing that transcluded feed. Halp! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.26.235.126 ( talk) 19:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I want to make a parameter in the template which will control the text color. The text entry isn't linked by default. Rather I prefer to make it optional to modify link color along the unlinked text because the default background is quite deep, making the default linking color scheme to hard to read. Can I change the link color by style attribute like style="(link-color):white" or something like that? -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk) 04:42, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Why this code:
inside <pre></pre> result in this:
See for example this in edit view:
<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[File:{{PAGENAME}}|thumb|Legenda]]</span>
It's not the same. Isn't something wrong? Mosca ( talk) 23:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
[[File:{{PAGENAME}}|thumb|Legenda]]
Try:
<span style="white-space:nowrap;"><nowiki>[[File:{{PAGENAME}}|thumb|Legenda]]</nowiki></span>
That is, doubling the nowikis. Look at it in the edit window to see what I mean. Happy‑ melon 23:57, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
<pre><nowiki> ... </nowiki></pre>
usages out there would suddenly have shown their old <nowiki> tags.<nowiki>
". Here's an example, check it out in the edit window too:<nowiki> Some text. </nowiki>
Thanks for you explanation. I though <pre> worked fine unless it had another <pre></pre> inside <pre></pre>. It's strange since I never saw this problem. Always learning. Mosca ( talk) 02:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
<pre>
". The "<
" part simply is the html code for the lower than "<" character. So here's an example with that:<pre> Some text. </pre>
#
" = "#
", space "
" = " 
", pipe "|
" = "|
", and braces "{ }
" = "{ }
" and so on. We mostly use this in template code. Wikipedia of course has
several
articles
about this.Is there a way to generate a list of all articles that fall in the categories:
That would help the India wikiproject review the unsourced BLPs that fall under its purview (at least the ones that are sorted into a India category). Abecedare ( talk) 15:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Update for anyone interested: Intersection search tool worked for me and was used to generate this list, which is now being reviewed by members of India wikiproject. Abecedare ( talk) 23:02, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone aware of a tool which lets an editor see pages with the same two categories, like, for example, Category:Unreferenced BLPs and Category:American songwriters Ikip Frank Andersson (45 revisions restored): an olympic medallist for f**k's sake 22:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I've spent the better part of three weeks trying to figure out, on my own, how to download the templates for Wikipedia to Upload to my own site (which has the Wikimedia engine installed) and I am at a loss. I have already asked for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates and Wikipedia:Help desk the WikiProject Templates sent me to the Help Desk which sent me here... can someone help me out? Does anyone know how to do this? Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati - ( When all else fails, play dead ) ( talk) 19:19, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
That thingy under the edit box where you can select symbols, IPA, Greek letters, etc doesn't seem to be working for me. I clisk on the relevant bit in the drop-down menu, but the symbols or whatever don't come up. I'm using IE8 on WinXP. DuncanHill ( talk) 23:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
When I search anything in wikipedia no image will show with text, this problem has been occuring for last few weeks, I have cleared my cache but still I am facing problem —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.20.19.18 ( talk) 04:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
upload.wikimedia.org
, since that is where our images are loaded from. If you have an "adblocking" plug-in in your web browser check there. Such blocking can also be done in the firewall if you are using one, so check there too.Why isn't {{ sec link auto}} behavior by default? Its incredibly annoying when you're using a secure connection, that whenever you click on an interwiki/interlanguage link, you get taken to the insecure connection. For example:
I don't really see the convenience in not making it default to a secure link if you're currently using a secure connection. Smallman12q ( talk) 19:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Common.js/secure.js is now automatically loaded when you use the English Wikipedia from the secure server. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
There's a bug with dumps with this link http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20091128/
it becomes https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/dumps/wiki/
For those on the secure server, observe:
http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20091128/
Smallman12q (
talk) 23:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
There's a major problem I've noticed. If this doesn't belong here, please move it to where it does belong. Anyway, whenever you type a special page that doesn't exist, it always says "Return to Main Page". Now, the problem here is that it always says that, no matter what page you were on before (so if you were on the page Wikipedia, for example, it would still say "Return to Main Page"). Please fix this as soon as possible. Thank you. -- Ha dg er 04:03, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
(undent) Why not just use the HTTP referer to determine where the viewer came from? Isn't that what it's for? -- Thin boy 00 @076, i.e. 00:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
My name is Christopher Kelly. I'm just a wikipedia reader, like the millions out there. And I have just ONE suggestion to make. It's about the search bar. I would prefer that Wikipedia place it more boldly in the upper center rather than inconspicuously 1/4 of the way down on the left hand side. Is it just me, or do others agree?
1/24/2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellyc01 ( talk • contribs) 07:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there by any chance anything like HTML Tidy for templates? If you are not familiar with HTML tidy, and want to see what it does, here is an online tool for HTML tidy [4]. Is there any tool that helps to make template logic more visually intuitive - and cleans it up - checks for missing braces, etc? Thanks. stmrlbs| talk 22:35, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
/* Colour matching brackets in a copy of the edit box.
[[User:ais523/bracketmatch.js]] */
importScript("User:ais523/bracketmatch.js");
Hi! I've been working on the Linda McMahon page recently, and the page is up to about 70 references right now. I'm not sure why, but due to some technical problem, the only references that show are up to number 31 and that's it. The other references are still there, but when you click on them, they don't lead to anything in the references section. I use the <ref></ref> tags, and the references section is marked with {{reflist|2}}.
I appreciate your help. Thanks! -- Screwball23 talk 03:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
At a current FLC, it has been brought to light that ordinal rankings such as 1st, 2nd, 19th, 24th don't sort properly in standard tables like this one. Instead of sorting in descending order of rank as 1st/2nd/19th/24th, it sorts as 19th/1st/24th/2nd, as shown here:
Year | Nominated work | Category | Result | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
2001 | First entry | 1st | ||
2002 | Second entry | 2nd | ||
2019 | Nineteenth entry | 19th | ||
2024 | Twenty-fourth entry | 24th |
Is there an elegant way to solve this? Any help appreciated, Skomorokh 18:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Year | Nominated work | Category | Result | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
2001 | First entry | 1st | ||
2002 | Second entry | 2nd | ||
2019 | Nineteenth entry | 19th | ||
2024 | Twenty-fourth entry | 24th |
Year | Nominated work | Category | Result | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
2001 | First entry | 1st | ||
2002 | Second entry | 2nd | ||
2019 | Nineteenth entry | 19th | ||
2024 | Twenty-fourth entry | 24th |
Thanks very much for the workaround chaps, very helpful. It would seem preferable though, given the likelihood that charts will become more common, for there to be tables or templates that "understood" ordinal sorting, as in "table class:ordinal" or similar setting. Mahalo, Skomorokh 23:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I suggest that the Image Annotator gadget be installed for the Wikipedia site. This is a gadget that allows people to comment on portions of a picture. The gadget is active over at WikiCommons and I find that it's useful. Installing the gadget on Wikipedia would not only make this functionality available there, but would also allow Wikipedia readers to see comments attached to Wikicommons photos. Without the gadget Wikipedia readers will not even realize that there are notes attached to a Wikicommons photo.
Here is an example of a Wikicommons photo that has notes attached. By hovering your mouse cursor over the photo you can read the notes. Also notice the "add note" button, that's the entry point to using the gadget. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Magnus_890_electric_chord_organ.JPG
Here is a Wikipedia page that displays the above photo from Wikicommons, but the notes are not visible because the Image Annotator gadget is not available on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_organ
If a reader was to find the photo interesting and click on it to get an enlarged view, s/he would get to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magnus_890_electric_chord_organ.JPG
If you hover your mouse on the above photo you will see that the notes do not get displayed. The reader would not even know that any notes are available. To see the notes, the reader would have to be really persistent and also lucky enough to click the correct one of several links on this page to get to the source page on the Wikimedia Commons page, where they would finally be able to see the notes. Few readers would be that persistent.
The gadget can only be installed by an admin. I have requested the admins install this but three different ones have vacillated, with one calling for some sort of vote/consensus. That's installed on my talk page.
The help file for installing the gadget is here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator/Installation
TheLarryBrown ( talk) 04:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
A few moments ago, I clicked the "undo" button to revert revision 339578635 at Discover Card. I also manually edited the undo to restore the Sears Tower link (which had been changed to Willis Tower in revision 339011701). When I saved this edit, I noticed the bytecount inexplicably dropped from 13,223 to 11,388; I then checked the diff and saw that various citations and prose were removed through my edit. I then attempted to simply undo my edit, without making and manual changes (until I figured out what was going wrong), which did not restore the material that went missing in my first edit. I'm at a loss for figuring out what's going on here. Anybody? jæs (talk) 00:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
title
parameter and shows the revision from oldid
parameter. The correct link is probably this one:
[5].
Svick (
talk) 01:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there a preloadtitle code in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php which allows you to move one page to another, simply by entering a url?
In the alternative:
Ikip 04:24, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
We're never going to make a URL so you can do something automatically just by following a URL. If we allowed that, it would be easy to trick a sysop into clicking a link to move Main Page to Main Page ON WHEELS!!!!. You can't do things like edit or move pages without clicking an actual button, or running a script. — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 16:15, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I have two suggestions for the printable version.
The first is with references/notes. Could we remove the "^" and a, b, c...etc from the printable version? You can't click on the ^ or a,b,c,etc in the printable version. However, I would still like for there to be a counter of how many times that reference was used...maybe something like (#) in small font.
The second is that I'd like to request that you add a small icon next to the printable version so that more people know that there is a printer friendly page. Smallman12q ( talk) 23:35, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Hope that answers your questions. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 00:57, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Why do you assume the "Printable version" link should be limited by CSS? It could point to a printer-oriented page rendering system using different logic to handle citations and embed high resolution images. After all, we already render thumbnails at user-preferred sizes. Given that the current printable version offers no benefits (except for old browsers) Featured picture criterion #2 ("is of sufficiently high resolution to allow quality print reproduction") is misleading. Contributors should be made aware that screen-resolution images are entirely sufficient for Wikipedia's purposes and they don't need to GFDL/CC3 high resolution versions of their IP. - Pointillist ( talk) 01:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps I'm not explaining this very well. When a reader clicks the "Printable version" link of an article (e.g.
Helix-turn-helix), an HTML page is prepared and downloaded to the browser for printing. Currently the page embeds screen-resolution images (e.g. src="200px-Lambda_repressor_1LMB.png" class="thumbimage" height="294" width="200"
). Instead, the page could embed the original image (e.g. src="
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Lambda_repressor_1LMB.png" class="thumbimage" height="294" width="200"
). Either way, the image will be scaled to the same height and width, the layout doesn't change and no more ink is used. But... using the original image, which contains more data, will show more detail when it is rendered to a printer. This is a simple change ...all that is needed is to use the filename of the original bitmap (or best rastered SVG) image rather than the screen-scaled version. If we aren't prepared to do this, why should contributors upload print-resolution images? -
Pointillist (
talk) 02:45, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
The formatting on my user page is being broken by the 'userboxtop' template. Notice the huge gap in the section titled "Interesting Wikipedia Articles". Any suggestions on how to fix this? Jrtayloriv ( talk) 22:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
It seems to have something to do with the {{ top}} etc, templates for creating columns. That is the only noticable difference I can see between my page, and that of, say, User:Soxwon. Any idea why these might interfere with each other? Jrtayloriv ( talk) 22:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
width: 100%
", so in most browsers it flows below the right floating boxes on your user page so it can get that 100% width. The trick is to instead use "margin: 0;
" in the table, then you get a box that uses all available width but doesn't flow down below the right floating boxes. So I hand coded a table for you with that setting.I have two questions about viewing multiple categories. (1) What is the best way to get a list of articles that are in two particular categories? For example, how can I get a list of articles that are in Category:All unreferenced BLPs *and* Category:American rock guitarists? (2) What is the best way to get a list of articles that are in a category or in any of its sub-categories? For example, how can I get a list of articles that are in Category:American rock musicians *or* are in any sub-category of Category:American rock musicians? — Mudwater ( Talk) 12:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
It would be a good idea for a wikiproject to have a section listing the articles within its scope that are in need of some kind of maintenance. For this, it would be needed to make a category intersection between the category or number of categories whose articles are in such scope (like "Category:Foo", "Category:History of Foo", etc.), and the ones that include a certain template or are included as well at a certain maintenance category. I know of tools that allow to make such querys myself, but is there a tool that allows to make it automatically and place/update the results at a specific wikiproject page? So, someone would just see the list, choose an article from it and work with it, with the list adding new articles needing maintenance or removing those who don't (meaning, the template has been added/removed) without need of human intervention to do so. MBelgrano ( talk) 15:52, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm encountering a problem with {{
ug}}
, which includes Arabic (right-to-left) script. In a few edits, such as
this, things simply get really screwed up, the left-to-right script (the dates) after the template end up getting mixed up in the template if you use a regular space instead of a , and even when it looks fine in the edit window (using ) the actual display is wrong, as you can see, the dates show up before the Arabic.
Interestingly, this template also includes Latin script, and when I
added that after the Arabic everything suddenly became fine. I looked within the template itself and I didn't see any missing </span>
tags or anything like that, so I'm not sure what's causing it.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 17:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
There seems to be an annoying, ever-present div added via Javascript to the page, preventing me from right-clicking properly, as I have discovered with Safari's Inspector. It contains an empty iframe, and this image:
. It is normally hidden using visibility:hidden, but that doesn't actually hide it, I think display:none should have been used instead?
What is it, anyway? --( ƒî) » 04:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Etherpad at etherpad recently became open sourced by google. It allows for real-time/simultaneous editing of a text document among several people. I wanted to suggest that wikipedia host and possibly integrate etherpad given that most wikipedia articles are just text, this would allow for much much much much better collaboration amongst several editors.
Any thoughts on this? Smallman12q ( talk) 21:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
The book generator uses the term "layouting" during rendering of PDFs. But "layouting" isn't a word. I'd like to change it to "laying out", but can't find the relevant MediaWiki page. Anyone any ideas? Stifle ( talk) 14:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Just spamming this. Pre tags have not been used in Geshi since long time. Locos epraix ~ Beastepraix 15:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
For making post requests using the mediawiki api for editing , do we need to also send a cookie, or is the edittoken enough? Could we send just part of a cookie such as the edit token...Which information is required, and which is optional...the documentation is a bit lacking. Smallman12q ( talk) 00:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
In case someone on the tech side is having a bout of insomnia, here's a puzzle to ponder. I was over at the reference desk and saw this thread Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Flag_Ratios. the interesting thing is the small print comments at the bottom of the thread - when the wikimedia software merges two contemporaneous edits, why does it merge them in the wrong temporal order? that seems like something that would be really easy to fix if it could be tracked down (which might be a real bear). -- Ludwigs2 07:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
how do I change my icon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Czimerman ( talk • contribs) 18:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I am having a technical issue with categorizing video samples of films. Please see Category talk:Video samples of films. Thanks, Erik ( talk) 21:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there any magic word that lets you control which subpage you get, in the context of pages with several levels of subpages? For example, FAC subpages, where you might have Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Foo/archive1.
{{BASEPAGENAME}}
yields Featured article candidates/Foo
{{SUBPAGENAME}}
yields archive1
Foo
?rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 04:29, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
{{#titleparts:Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Foo/archive1|1|2}}
returns Foo - Documentation for it is
here.
Mr.
Z-man 06:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Has anyone else out there noticed that hits have not been counted on articles since the 23rd? I visited many random pages from two different IP's and page statistics is showing zero hits. Anyone know what this is about? Thanks in advance! :) -- Neon Sky ( talk) 19:43, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
en.wikipedia.org site. Seems to be working now. :) -- Neon Sky ( talk) 01:37, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I did a trouble ticket at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ and it was fixed relatively quickly (within 2 hours). I suggest trying there. :) Good luck!-- Neon Sky ( talk) 23:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm collaborating with the basque Wikipedia and we are interested implementing new functionalities. New for us because you have them yet. I'm almost sure that the solutions might be related with Common.css or Common.js but as I tried I need help. Also we talked about this in our Wikipedia but nobody knows:
Please, feel free to move this talk to a better place but I couldn't find it. I would appreciate any tip you give and sorry of my poor English. Thanks. -- Inorbez ( talk) 09:30, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't know how but I reach this page and there is explained what changes must be done in order to use letters and no numbers with cites. If somebody knows or can give any tip related to PDF downloading I would appreciate it. -- Inorbez ( talk) 13:08, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I have a bad habit of starting an edit, getting distracted (perhaps by something more urgent, that that edit brings to my attention), and finishing it, say a day later. Occasionally this puts me thru a process of ed-conf resolution (which i've been dealing with for years and years, and flatter myself that i handle smoothly and responsibly).
It
appears that i began a long edit -- presumably such an interrupted one -- on the 18th, not completing it until [
mumbles indecipherably] later. It turns out that that explanation would imply that i started my edit in a
62-second window between two saves. (Most likely, the fact the first of them saved in the first second of a minute is mere coincidence.) It also implies what i am unwilling to admit, that i overrode an edit-conflict notice without the slightest adjustment, in light of the large and visible additions since i started, in what i saved -- unless, that is, a bug, perhaps -- accompanied by server anomaly -- prevented the usual edit conflict processing, so that i overwrote edits i'd never seen, without getting any indication that i was doing so.
I hasten to note that i don't expect this to be pursued unless it bears an uncanny resemblance to an earlier or later report: i firmly support the principle that "if it only happened once, it didn't really happen". But perhaps the developers have a virtual
knick-knack shelf, where curious events are stashed away, and occasionally taken down and turned over until they evoke "Pffft!" or "Hmmph", and put back to sit there for another week or year -- but perhaps eventually earning a "WTF" or "Wait a sec, that reminds me of ...."
Thanks to any readers.
--
Jerzy•
t 23:18, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Looking for someone more experienced to suggest if this could be improved as I think it can (have searched Pump archives).
For a number of Stub Categories, an image is used as the icon next to the text "This xyz article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." While many of the images are SVG or PNG of reasonable size, a surprising number are JPG. Some JPG stub icons (e.g. Abraham_Lincoln_small.png; Frederick_Jackson_Turner.jpg ) are very reasonably sized at 3-15 kb, but there are a surprising number that are 200kb to 2+ Mb. They are shown at about 40x40 pixels, so that resolution really isn't needed.
Figuring that many jpg stub icons are 150 kb oversized, and some even 10 times that, we're not talking about it massive bandwidth for each use, but how many stub-views are there per year? Just serving three stub images (Trilobite-stub; Europe Archaeology-stub; Botany-stub) was a gigabyte excess for December (usage from http://stats.grok.se/en/200912). Multiply that by all .jpg stub images over about 50k and it might save some modest amount of bandwidth bill.
Since training users to not link stub-images of large size is probably not effective, and there are too many to fix by hand, it seems that the easiest solution would be for a better programmer than I to write a bot that posts a small version of jpgs linked in Stub templates, then relinks the stub template to the new image. I just don't have the programming skills to propose it myself, esp. not to make and shrink images.
Discussion and suggestions welcome. It was previously alluded to as a decent idea in principle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DWAP addendum by Simetrical) but hasn't happened. Is it too hard, or not worth it, or perhaps I've actually had an idea? NotTires ( talk) 01:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
trilobite-stub}}
is 936 B, {{
Europe-archaeology-stub}}
's image has 902 B and {{
Botany-stub}}
's has 813 B. That's far from a waste, so there is no need to do anything.
Svick (
talk) 01:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Hi. Wasn't sure whether to post here or at Help, but here goes.
I saw a Cat intersection tool recently, that looked great. No idea where it was.
I'm one of the many editors trying ref as many unreffed BLPs as possible, as quickly as possible. There are a number of us working through a list at the cricket WikiProject, but I've just realised that there's not many other active editors who are fans of Norwich City F.C. (that I'm aware of) and I'd bet there's a large intersection between the unreffed BLPs Cat and Category:Norwich_City_F.C._players.
If someone could produce a list for me and bung it in my userspace I'd be most grateful. -- Dweller ( talk) 14:16, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I was unable to upload an image using IE8 while a wikipedian with FF was able to. Please make Wikipedia image upload accessable to Wikipedians with IE8, which a majority of the people uses. -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 16:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
This is what I'm seeing: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6992/scrshot.png -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 16:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I submitted that bug. -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 16:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Further to this message at the Help Desk, it appears that Google is indexing user pages. I thought all pages in userspace were noindexed? Mine also has {{ NOINDEX}} on it, but has been indexed by Google. Anyone know what's going on - is Google ingnoring noindex for some reason? Thanks. – ukexpat ( talk) 22:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
{{NOINDEX}}
should work (Google search of your user name did show up subpages of your userpage, but not the userpage itself). User talk pages on the other hand, are noindexed. Also see
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User page indexing.
Svick (
talk) 23:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)I don't know why, but there is starting to be a high database server lag, and the time keeps increasing. Right now, it says "changes newer than 361 seconds may not appear in this list" on my watchlist. In other words, the database lag is up to 361 seconds right now. I'm pretty sure it's not just my computer. If an administrator can fix this, please do so. Thank you. -- Ha dg er 02:11, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm having a strange issue that I've never encountered before. Usually when you put a template onto an article, it doesn't matter if you use the horizontal or vertical method of assigning parameters... However, I seem to get different results on a template I'm making. If I assign a value to a parameter (say a number) in the vertical format (as in {{[[Template:template |template ]]}}, and then have it place that number in the middle of a sentence, it adds the line break after the number, effectively making it impossible to call a file name with that number in it.
How do I prevent a variable from holding onto that line break, instead of only the value? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 22:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
{{template |param1 |param2 |param3=blah }}
{{User:Floydian/Infobox_Ontario_road |Hwy |401 |...
[[Image:Ontario {{{2|}}}.svg|100x100px|alt=A road sign with the number {{{2}}} in the centre.]]
{{{2|}}}
" causes the file name "Image:Ontario 401 .svg
", when we really want "Image:Ontario 401.svg
". That is a known issue.alt=
" part we get a line break after the "{{{2}}}
" when fed the 401 value! Very nasty.{{#if:x| {{{2}}} }}
". So I changed the line to this:[[Image:Ontario {{#if:x| {{{2|}}} }}.svg|100x100px|alt=A road sign with the number {{#if:x| {{{2}}} }} in the centre.]]
{{User:Floydian/Infobox_Ontario_road | 1 = Hwy | 2 = 401 | 3 = ...
{{#if:x| }}
" checks if the string "x" has one or more characters, and "x" is one character, so that if-case is always true. Another way to write it is perhaps clearer:{{#if: Put some text here to make it always true | true | false }}
{{#if:x| {{{2|}}} }}
" will always return the "{{{2|}}}
". The nice part is that MediaWiki's
parserFunctions have a side effect: They strip away surrounding whitespace from their input.*
" and "#
". So if we feed "* Text.
" to the "{{{2|}}}
" parameter and we have this code:Alfa{{#if:x| {{{2|}}} }}beta
Alfa{{{2|}}}beta
*
" or "#
" then you can't use such whitespace stripping. Then you have to use named parameters instead, since they also strip whitespace but without interpreting the leading "*
" and "#
". As I have mentioned above, you can turn unnamed parameters into "named" parameters by feeding them as "{{temp| 1 = data }}
", but better choose a name for the parameter so users don't get sloppy and try to use "{{temp| data }}
".*
" or "#
" then that always gets interpreted, and you still get the list output:
{{#if:x| }}
", and then we don't get the "*
" and "#
" problem. So I went looking for a good name for that template, and discovered another user beat me to it: {{
StripWhitespace}} does exactly that. Very nifty.{{StripWhitespace| x = {{{2|}}} }}
" for every unnamed parameter in our templates is inefficient, so better use named parameters from starters. But {{StripWhitespace}} can be nice to add to already deployed templates to make them more forgiving on the input.Wow! Quite the explanation, but it certainly makes sense now. I think what it comes down to is that any parameter that is displayed in a string of text needs to be named, or else problems arise. Given that I've decided to name the number parameter so that it can be displayed and simplify things. Thats what documentation is for after all. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 17:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
There was a discussion regarding Template:Collapsible list which died out a couple months ago, but never came to a solution. Is there anyone that can figure out why the show/hide link displays differently in IE7 than every other browser? Assuming it hasn't expired yet, this page shows the screenshots of the different browsers. Thanks, MrKIA11 ( talk) 16:48, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me or are watchlists not updating? mine's been stuck at 19:10 (UTC, I suppose) for a good long bit now. -- Ludwigs2 04:13, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Now it says that edits newer than 743 seconds may not appear! We are going back to the present! Hurray! :) -- Ha dg er 05:07, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
You can usually see what's going on with the servers at the Wikitech server admin log, although if they're really busy (like last night) the log may not be their top priority. In this case it was a single balky server. Acroterion (talk) 13:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Anyone else having trouble connecting to freenode for the Wikipedia IRC channels? I was disconnected just after a global notice mentioning some migration to newnet?? Maybe it's just temporary.. -- œ ™ 23:18, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
There's a problem with the footer on WMF project pages.
The privacy policy text doesn't line up correctly. I'm using Firefox 3.5 on Windows XP. Does anyone know where to report this? Only minor, but still something that should probably get fixed. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 23:39, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
900px -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 01:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
A recent change to something in the footer caused all Wikipedia articles to generate invalid HTML. For example, the Wikipedia article A fails validation: if you visit the W3C Markup Validation Service, the report for the article on A lists 6 errors, starting with:
a non-profit organization.</li><br /><li class="noprint"><a class='internal'
Can someone who knows how Wikipedia article footers are generated please fix these errors? Thanks. Eubulides ( talk) 04:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
When rendered at 2000px, File:Alaska Volcano Observatory.svg does not display correctly. It seems that anything above the 350px does not display the outer letters correctly. Unfortunately the image is non-free, so I can't put up a screenshot, but I do believe this is an error with rendering/scaling. Smallman12q ( talk) 17:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
What has happened with the flag template for Austria? When you look at Triple Crown of Motorsport e.g., there is only a rectangular next to Jochen Rindt where the flag should have been. John Anderson ( talk) 18:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
The links in the "comments" section of wiki commons images are red if they link to a wikicommons page. Although the wikicommons page/category may exist, the links in the comments apparently relink to whichever wiki they are in rather than prepending "commons:". Is this a fixable bug, or would it require a bit of back end work? Smallman12q ( talk) 01:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
The <sub> tag used in the barnstar template causes the words within it to be covered by the invisible border of the table in IE7 and reportedly in IE8 as well ( Exmaple) What's the function and purpose for this tag? -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk) 02:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Please see Template talk:City-region#Move to deprecate. Dabomb87 ( talk) 02:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there a way to add some code to a page so that a new section created with the new section / + tab would come pre-populated with some text? Thanks, Bongo matic 06:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
__NONEWSECTIONLINK__
can remove the button but I don't think that should be done without very good reason on a discussion or report page where we want new sections.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 15:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)Yes, I figured as much. But generally, what happens when a user clicks the new section / + button? Is there any way to override the behavior either for oneself (e.g., by changing your monobook.js or something), or for a particular page? Bongo matic 16:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Whenever there is new edits to pages that I watch, I can't view the new edits when I click on the page. When it lets me, I'm only able to view new edits by going to the editing history to compare diffs. Joe Chill ( talk) 12:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering if someone might assist me with a user space template. It's basically an image of an "End of correspondence" stample that I created in the Gimp. I've managed to get it to float over the text without much of an issue, however for some reason it's leaving a large amount of space down the bottom of the image. Does anyone have any ideas why this is? The template is User:Tbsdy lives/EndOfCorr and a test page is User:Tbsdy lives/EndOfCorr/Test. You can see what its doing there. Thanks! - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 20:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
span.mw-headline:target { background-color: #fbe54e;}
Adding this to common.css will highlight the heading of the section when clicked from the TOC. A more advanced example with permalinking in the heading is given on the Toolserver, which could be implemented here with javascript. — Dispenser 23:50, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I raised a brief proposal at WT:Featured article candidates#Template:la to add a <noinclude>ed template to subpages of WP:FAC. I believe such an addition wouldn't affect the load times of WP:FAC (where the subpages are all transcluded) because of the noinclude tags, but could someone familiar with load time stuff take a look at it to make sure? Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 03:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
How does one extract an image from a pdf and still have that image retain its original metadata(if it had any)? Smallman12q ( talk) 21:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
pdfimages -j foo.pdf prefix
¦
Reisio (
talk) 12:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
There is a place to click for what links to the old page name on the page that says a move was successful.
I just moved an article and was told "No pages link to WOHS". I knew of some that did since I created the links in the first place, and no one had fixed the links yet. I went to the page that has the redirect on it and there was a list, and I discovered a template that was responsible for many of the links, but after I fixed the template, the pages still showed up as having links to WOHS. Except for sports networks (which the former WOHS may or may not still be a part of), supposedly I have fixed all the pages with actual links, but there may be others I don't know about. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:57, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I moved Charles Stanley to Charles Stanley (disambiguation) and Charles Stanley (pastor) to Charles Stanley. When I went to make the latter move, it would not let me do it until I deleted the redirect left behind by the first move. Is that an intentional new feature or a bug? You used to be able to move over top of a redirect without having to delete it first provided that it had never been anything but a redirect. Sorry if this is old news. Thanks. -- B ( talk) 22:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Can someone please look at Thomas Baker (aviator) in IE8? I (finally) downloaded Safari (which I hate, old dog, new trick) because I'm having this problem across numerous FACs; it's not only Baker, I've seen it on dozens of articles. They display fine in Safari, but not in IE8. Also, the problems seem random; in the case of Baker, it's the infobox, but in other articles, I see it on some images, and not on others in the same article. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
--
Tyw7 (
Talk •
Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 01:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
But I still have the problem, on many articles :) And I still hate Safari. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 02:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
See:
thumb||none --
Tyw7 (
Talk •
Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 11:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Plot thickens. The problem is gone now on Bodiam Castle, but still there on HMS Calliope (1884) and Thomas Baker (aviator). I logged out, re-loaded pages, cleared cache, have same problem when logged out. I removed all add-ons, re-loaded, cleared cache, still have problem. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Category:Rescaled fairuse images contains all images that have been tagged with {{ Non-free reduced}}, to help us get rid of old versions of images that have been shrunken to help us comply with nonfree content criterion 3. When this template is applied to these images, it has a timestamp attached so that it will automatically go into Category:Rescaled fairuse images more than 7 days old; all files where the old versions are more than 7 days old can be deleted. However, I just went through the parent category deleting images that were well over a week old, including some that were tagged last year. Any reason why these images wouldn't be showing up in the subcategory? Nyttend ( talk) 01:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
When SteveMcCluskey fixed the Sarton citation in History of science I decided to cast it into the harvnb format. Unfortunately, when one uses Author|Year in the citation the software links are very picky and insist on the format yyyy instead of 1927-48 which would be the real citation. Is there now a better way? -- Ancheta Wis ( talk) 04:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
harvnb}}
citation seems to work correctly.Not so fast- there area few mysteries still unsolved. I have just been on Royton, I thought sorting out a silly sp that was preventing the harv citations from working--- well none of them worked so I added the magic powder ref = harv. Most now work! I zapped a few by changing the ref to ref=CITEREFBigEars1947 format- then remembered this post and stopped. Why? Why doesn 't Lewis work or McPhillips but Reid_ does?-- ClemRutter ( talk) 23:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
|year=
YYYY or |date=
any form of complete date should work, but |date=
YYYY will not. If provided with |date=
3 Feb 2010 the template should populate |Year=
2010 by itself. When enabled,
user:Citation bot corrects this common error, but it is presently blocked largely because it doesn't compensate correctly for {{
cite book}}'s anomalous behaviour, which differs in some regards from most of the cite xxx family and from {{
citation}}.
LeadSongDog
come howl 17:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
There is lots of articles with broken Harvard references, part of there errors was created by requiring ref = harv
in {{cite *}}
templates, the rest is broken from different reasons. If anybody is interested in fixing them, list is available at
[8].
Svick (
talk) 10:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
Citation}}
has default setting ref=harv
, so setting it explicitly doesn't break anything. Your approach could cause that Harvard citation links to the wrong book and also invalid HTML in the rare case when there are two books from the same author and with the same year. Invalid HTML was the main concern when this was decided at
Template talk:Citation/core#We should never render invalid HTML.
Svick (
talk) 15:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
harvcoltxt}}
used links like [[this article#CITEREFsomething]]
, when the tool counted only [[#CITEREFsomething]]
. Because the second form is better (works as expected when viewing old revisions or when using preview), I changed the template.
Svick (
talk) 17:58, 3 February 2010 (UTC)ref=harv
to the one citation worked fine there.
Svick (
talk) 18:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I was clicking "Random article" and was eventually sent to Manteaux. Shouldn't the "Random article" feature avoid soft redirect pages? It's quite an unsatisfying article to send browsing readers to. Comet Tuttle ( talk) 18:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Articles that are well sourced quickly become unreadable due to the overwhelming number of in-line footnotes. Is there any way to click a button/link to temporarily hide them for the sake of readability? If not, where should I request this feature for future updates? Many thanks! -- Clifflandis ( talk) 04:02, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
javascript: var refs = document.getElementsByClassName('reference'); for (var i = 0; i < refs.length; i++) { void(refsi].parentNode.removeChild(refsi])) };
sup.reference a
"?) that could be amended. We already have a (
somewhat
subtle) shading difference for links to other websites, so this would be an extension of an existing principle. —
Richardguk (
talk) 22:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reposted from Help talk:Preferences#Add link from Special:Preferences:
Could a direct link be added from Special:Preferences to either Help:Preferences or meta:Help:Preferences? It must be a common page for people to want help on. More generally, should more Special: pages have a link to the relevant Help: page?
Also, would it be useful to have a direct link to Special:Search alongside the Go/Search buttons on each page? At present, if you want to search without losing the page you are reading or editing, you have to open another page and then click search; that's two clicks, or three clicks to submit an advanced search. This is annoying for such a common task. Alternatively, perhaps users could have an option in Preferences for the Search button to show its results in a new window (akin to one of the options in Google's interface). I'm using MonoBook and don't know whether this is addressed in other skins.
— Richardguk ( talk) 21:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
This template, used all over the Main Page and elsewhere, originally came into use because of a Firefox bug that caused problems with word wrapping around images. The bug in question is detailed here. However, now that the bug has been marked RESOLVED FIXED and these demos appear to display properly (at least, in my version of Firefox), do we really need this template anymore? Sorry if I don't fully understand the issue, but what is preventing normal * bullets from being used now that the bug has been fixed? — The Earwig @ 03:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
The following is redundant. Please see Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Wikipedia Citation Style#Feature request: User preference for styling citations
Suggestion for user preferences After discussing the deletion of a redundant citation tag, I considered whether or not Wikipedia/Mediawiki software could have a user preference to style citations according to different standards (e.g. MLA, APA, Chicago, etc.) Presently, sources are to be cited using {{ Citation}} and similar templates such as {{ Cite web}}, filling in a variety of parameters to generate a citation. An example follows:
*{{Citation |editor-last=Christoyannopoulos |editor-first=Alexandre J. M. E. |title=Religious Anarchism: New Perspectives |format=Hardback |edition=1st |date=August 1, 2009 |publisher=[[Cambridge Scholars Publishing]] |isbn=1443811327}}
will generate:
{{
citation}}
: |format=
requires |url=
(
help)Every article on Wikipedia already has a "Cite this page" link that leads to a variation of Special:Cite (e.g. this example.) On these instances of Special:Cite, citations are given using the fields:
Page name
Author
Publisher
Date of last revision
Date retrieved
Permanent link
Primary contributors
Page Version ID
with the following styles:
(Other styles that might be useful: A Manual for Writers of Research Papers, Theses, and Dissertations and ISO 690.)
It seems reasonable to me that Wikipedia/Mediawiki software could generate on-the-fly variations for citation styles in the same way that there is a user preference for dates. The same information is present to all users, but arranged in a way that the user chooses if logged in and with a user-defined setting. Unlike date linking in article namespace, there is no problem of overlinking, as this information is already present in the fields of {{ Citation}} (or {{ Cite web}}, etc.)
The bonuses to this approach are as follows:
Does this seem like a reasonable or desirable suggestion to anyone else? I wasn't sure whether I should post this here, to Meta, or to mediawiki.org, but I figured this would get me the most feedback. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 05:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there any way I can get a copy of the complete deletion log of whole months or years? The data is publicly available at Special:Log/delete, but only a small part at a time. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 18:39, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
FireFox 3.5.7. Monobook, with advanced toolbar off.
When I edit, the toolbar is gone, except for a Cite button enabled by the refTools gadget. The font style in the edit window is different (monospaced?) and if I copy content from another window, the font style is retained. I'm guessing the devs are playing with the usability stuff again. See Wikipedia:Help desk#Lost toolbar for other editors with the same issues. -— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 03:39, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
This morning, I noticed that some edits I made using Firefox did not insert paragraphs properly. In other words, I left a blank line between each paragraph, but when I previewed or saved the page, the paragraphs were not there. I switched to Internet Explorer, and the paragraphs seem to work. This was not an issue yesterday. Has something changed in the past 24 hours or so? Acdixon ( talk • contribs • count) 15:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there a tool/process that can compare the contents of two categories to see if there is any overlap between those two? -- Blargh29 ( talk) 20:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Last time I checked this didn't work with more than two categories. Has this been fixed? Is there a way to gain SQL access to perform arbitrary (read-only of course) queries and intersections? SharkD Talk 04:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
The easiest way to deal with the unreferenced biography of living people backlog is to assign it to volunteers to at minimum add them to their watchlists. I don't know if there's any way for the system to add pages to someone's watchlist fully automatically, but there are ways to create links to automatically watch a number of pages.
Is there a system to add articles to an editors watchlist automatically? Ikip 06:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I was going to say " mw:Extension:PovWatch, see also bug 20523" but that extension is no longer maintained. MER-C 02:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any facility within the MediaWiki software that distinguishes a "watched" article from a "watched by an editor who is still alive and gives a damn anymore" article, although perhaps the external (toolserver) software makes that distinction - however a "watcher count" is always interesting if it is zero. Ikip - MZMcBride, vicious devil that he is, possesses this data. Why not approach him? Ask for a random or structured sample of 100 or 1000 unwatched BLP's in a format that you can paste into your raw watchlist. I've been thinking of asking for the same thing, I could very easily absorb an extra 100 articles to watch. Franamax ( talk) 03:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
In Geoffrey Eglinton there are links to the Wollaston Medal and the Dan David Prize, both of which appear normal but I can't click on them. When I point my mouse at them, the arrow changes to the giant capital I that it does inside edit boxes, instead of the little hand that it normally does on wikilinks. Anyone know what's happenning or how to fix it? Thanks. DuncanHill ( talk) 13:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've made a script which creates a tab at the top of the page, but how do I get it to edit a different Wikipedia page when I click it? Specifically, it's for WP:MOTD and I want it so that I can click the tab when editing a discussion, and it will automatically add the discussion to a different page. What is the code for creating a new section on a Wikipedia page that is different from the one which I am running the Javascript on? Thanks, Smaug123 ( talk) 22:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes an article will have four or five references in a row. This looks really ugly. Is there a way to fix this cosmetically without actually removing the references themselves? Or, is this not recommended. SharkD Talk 03:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, could someone help me fix the cluebot archiving on User talk:PrincessofLlyr, for some reason it keeps moving content to User talk:PrincessofLlyr2010/January, which makes it ownerless. I thought I fixed it before but it came back. Thanks-- Jac16888 Talk 12:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I am using beta and firefox 3.5.7 - whenever I click the java-applet to insert four tildes nothing happens. Any ideas? ·Maunus·ƛ· 09:12, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
A notice has appeared above my watchlist from the Usability Team advising that experimental features can be turned off at Preferences → Editing tab → Experimental features. I don't seem to have an "Experimental features" tab under Editing. Does anyone know what they mean? SlimVirgin TALK contribs 11:44, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Help would be appreciated from anyone with solid technical expertise at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Citation templates#Israel_is_slow_mainly_because_of_citation_templates. It's about whether adding lots of citation templates to articles slows down editing and loading time. Some editors with technical knowledge are saying templates do cause slow loading; others are saying that's nonsense. Those of us without technical knowledge are left befuddled. Any help clarifying the issues would be much appreciated.
The particular article we're discussing is Israel, a featured article that is hard to edit, in part because it's slow to load (20 seconds to over a minute for some of us). Some editors are saying this is because it contains lots of citation templates (290 citations in all); others are saying no, it's something else. SlimVirgin TALK contribs 17:41, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks for this information. The discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Citation templates#Why this matters. A summary of the technical points is at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Citation templates (technical). Basically, we need both a technical and an editorial solution. I can't comment on the technical and what would be involved, or how it would be achieved. Editorially, I think we need to make people aware that they may be causing problems when they add too many of these templates as inline citations, because they are making articles that contain a lot of them very hard to edit. Per WP:ACCESS, I think we need to do something about it. SlimVirgin TALK contribs 16:25, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
I fouled up recently and started a redirect "Sunburn cell" after running a search, when what I meant to make was Sunburn cell. So I moved it, creating the second redirect... but like other moves, it left a redirect behind, which now I've put up for speedy deletion.
While that works, it seems to me that a redirect should be treated differently from an article. I think when you move one, it shouldn't leave anything behind (it should however warn you of any existing incoming links that would be abandoned, or even cancel the move until they're fixed). That way the move is actually a useful feature distinct from just making a new redirect. It would avoid the need for admin intervention for typo redirects, which is a little embarrassing...
While maybe copying redirects via "move" could be marginally convenient when starting new articles, the move log left behind is probably more confusing than it's worth. Wnt ( talk) 02:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
All the music single articles suddenly have the text begin after the infobox, instead of to the side. I use Firefox 3.6, and it was OK until a few minutes ago. Anyone else seeing it?— Kww( talk) 19:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
In the same general category of "strange things happening": I got banners from the 2009 fundraiser a few times today. Ucucha 21:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
The recently-started steward election makes me wonder: how does someone become a steward? Rather than asking about the election process, I mean: when it's decided that candidate X has sufficient support from the community to become a steward, who presses what buttons to grant the permission level of steward? Nyttend ( talk) 20:58, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there a way to include a link with templates in it?
[[Pâtissier|{{lang|fr|Pâtissier}}]] does not work: Pâtissier
It has to be {{lang|fr|[[Pâtissier]]}}: Pâtissier
174.3.98.236 ( talk) 04:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
<a href="/info/en/?search=P%C3%A2tissier" title="Pâtissier" class="mw-redirect"><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Pâtissier</span></a>
<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr"><a href="/info/en/?search=P%C3%A2tissier" title="Pâtissier" class="mw-redirect">Pâtissier</a></span>
There seem to be some changes to the wiki software which is making the edit box behave in strange ways. (I'm using IE7.) If I select text and right click, the context-sensitive menu that appears is different from the one that previously appeared, and no longer includes the option to copy text to the clipboard. If I want to do that, as I frequently do, I have to hit Ctrl-C. Also, if I copy some text to the clipboard from outside the text box, which happens to be in a large font (say, an article heading), then paste that text into the edit box, the text gets pasted in the same outsize font, whereas previously it would have been pasted in the standard size font. Finally, at the top right of the edit box there's an option to toggle "show contents" and "hide contents". I'm not understanding this functionality at all. It seems to be a way to navigate around an article in mid-edit using the section headers, but if there are no section headers (say, if you're just editing a section or creating a new section) then the toggle still appears but with nothing to show for it either way, which seems fairly daft to me. I saw something on my watchlist page about bugs in the latest release, didn't read it properly, just quickly hid it, but I don't think this is anything to do with that, it looks like intended behaviour. Any pointers gratefully received. -- Richardrj talk email 11:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Edit URL: [12] Notice in this URL how the below comment looks signed by User:Jorge Stolfi who was the last editor to edit the page?
Edit by User:Fram:
:::No, no bot can do this. While many are indeed incorrectly tagged (at the time of tagging, or now), theer are a fair number of articles that use the <ref tag but don't have actual references, just some footnote without any source. Many also have empty references section, but have the reflist or references template in place. Just like no bot should delete pages, no bot should remove the tag either. ~~~~
I assume this has something to do with <ref tag?
Okip (the new and improved Ikip) 12:35, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
~~~~
in an open <ref
where it didn't expand. The text after <ref
in Fram's edit was not displayed. The seen signature at the end of the section
[14] (note the time stamp) was the signature from the preceding edit by Jorge Stolfi and was not caused by the unexpanded ~~~~
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 12:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)( edit conflict):All the text between Fram's unclosed <ref and the /> which was part of Jorge Stolfi's <br/> was hidden, this must have all counted as one humongous tag. pablo hablo. 12:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I use Google Chrome to edit, and I also use the beta version of Wikipedia, which I like better. A few days ago, something changed; now, if I copy text to place into the editing window, it fails to convert it to wikitext; rather, it remains in the same font as the original. This only started a couple days ago; prior to that, it worked fine. For example, if I copy a title of a website into {{cite web}}, it'll show up in the same font and size as it was where I copied it from. I haven't noticed this problem on any other browser, and if I switch out of beta it goes away. Any thoughts? C628 ( talk) 14:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone else seeing infoboxes doing weird things today? It doesn't appear to be affecting all articles, just most. I noticed it last night, but haven't seen anything about this problem yet (and I so rarely report problems, I cannot find a reporting link anywhere). - Tim1965 ( talk) 14:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I am getting crazy printed PDF output when actually printing a PDF I generated from the Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories article. Check out the hi-res version of this thumbnail. (It is a scan of my printed output. Explanation why it's 2 pages: I had my printer set to output 2 pages per printed sheet.) Windows XP, updated to the latest via Windows Update; Adobe Reader 9.3.0; Firefox 3.5.7. Comet Tuttle ( talk) 18:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I normally use secure.wikimedia but in the last few days, my updates are not committing when I try to save my edits. On ordinary en.wikipedia my updates committed. This is a test. -- Ancheta Wis ( talk) 23:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
If you do a wikipedia search for "one and the same", you get no results. However, there is a redirect at One And The Same since October of 2009. Is this a bug? Smallman12q ( talk) 22:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not really sure if this is the best place to ask, but here goes. This issue has been brought up multiple times at the talk pages of affected templates, but didn't seem to have resulted in solutions. The specific problem at hand is the incompatible font selection by Firefox 3.5.7 (and earlier versions as well, I assume; not sure about other affected browsers) for use with {{ IAST}}. The template transcludes {{ Transl}} for the display of the International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration (which uses Latin script with an extended range of diacritics) and specifies the language tags for the string of text as "sa-Latn". Normally the browser should detect the "Latn" subtag and apply an appropriate font, but due to a bug [15] Firefox fails to do so, and recognises the string of text as Sanskrit according to the "sa" tag, and applies a font incompatible with the range of Latin needed to display the IAST, resulting in an ugly display. The template, via {{ Unicode}}, also specifies the Unicode class to the string, which declares Unicode-compatible fonts for IE6 (using a /**/ comment workaround). I'm not sure if there shouldn't also be a fix for Firefox? It's of course possible to extend the font selections to all browsers, but I don't think that's desirable. Previous discussions exist at Template talk:IAST#Font selection, Template talk:IAST#Font size, Template talk:Transl#Font for translated words and MediaWiki talk:Common.css/Archive 7#Ugly fonts for transliteration templates. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 12:05, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
This is all over the lang
attribute? Does anything even utilize that in some useful way? Couldn't we just remove the attribute and everyone would be happy? Or use web fonts, which
all browsers support now? ¦
Reisio (
talk) 06:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not talking about potential usefulness. Obviously the more specific you can be about every bit of data, the more you can utilize it. The question is whether or not anyone is utilizing it now. ¦ Reisio ( talk) 08:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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Sometimes when I'm loading Wikipedia (the English version, I haven't tried the other versions for a while), it looks like I'm not logged in. A "log in" link appears in the upper right corner of the side, and a "Try beta" link next to it. However, when I click the "Try beta" link, all the links that are displayed when logged in appears. So apparently, I am logged in after all.
I have noticed this bug for a few months now. I'm running Windows 7. And I'm using FireFox, which I always have updated to the latest version. -- Kri ( talk) 12:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Every so often I read through old posts and I often find links to discussions that have been already been archived. It would be nice if the anchor didn't exist it would be copied into the search box. — Dispenser 03:36, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
document.getElementById(location.hash.substring(1))!=null
would be able to tell. But I'm thinking that we should just copy it regardless to the search box. —
Dispenser 15:50, 16 January 2010 (UTC)We need to be able to search within our own, and other's, user contributions. Post this to bugzilla. 174.3.106.27 ( talk) 01:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Can anyone see why {{ iw-ref}} is generating the text "the equivalent article" instead of the article name where I used it in Martín Alonso Pinzón? A quick look at the documentation says I did this right, and a quick look at the code suggests that the intent is that it would show the article name. - Jmabel | Talk 06:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there a hack going on because there was a 1,311 second server lag and then when I tried to click my username it said "Oh dear! Our JSON query went down the drain?" -- macbookair3140 ( talk) 02:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
"Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 2,249 seconds may not appear in this list."
Is something going on that there is a database lag of 1407 seconds? Every time I mention a concern about tidying up unwanted odds and ends at bots, people assure me the servers are robust and nothing could ever slow them down. So, how do we go from there to a 12 minute database server lag? -- IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 02:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Is this the run around helpless screaming kind of panic?, or the rioting kind of panic, torching buildings and going vigilante and beating up criminals?-- Jac16888 Talk 03:12, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
It's about time to give the DB server a three-finger salute, I'd say. — DoRD ( talk) 03:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Strange not having a working watchlist. I feel all blind and naked. Equazcion (talk) 03:44, 16 Jan 2010 (UTC)
Its nearly up to 9000 now, clearly the End of Days has come. We should all go join Conservapedia so that we get into heaven, rather than being sent to hell for being terrible left-wing liberals-- Jac16888 Talk 04:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm going for the obvious; it will definitely be OVER 9,000!!! (you may thank me now for getting the obvious Internet meme out of the way.) Nate • ( chatter) 04:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Thought admittedly not as evil as voting, which is of course undisputedly the spawn of Satan. Equazcion (talk) 04:17, 16 Jan 2010 (UTC)
Nobody seems to have noticed-- Jac16888 Talk 04:18, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Going down. Peak was 8,906
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> haneʼ 04:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Looks like I missed all of the fun!
—
V = I * R (
talk to Ohms law) 23:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
The pleasant and good-natured banter that results when editors can do nothing about whatever situation is 'teh dramaz' of the day, never ceases to boost my morale. It shows that we're never more than one (giant) step away from that ideal in the flaming drama-fests that are unfortunately much more common. Happy‑ melon 13:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Which CSS are files are needed to properly render the contents of an article? Where are classes such as "printonly" defined? -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 08:32, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Following a WP:AWB
bug report I'm wondering if article
List of characters in Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi has a non-printing Unicode character at the end of it, because the C# system HttpUtility.UrlEncode
function returns the name string with "%e2%80%8e" unexpectedly appended to it (plus the correct changes to spaces and accented letter). If I type the article name out by hand "%e2%80%8e" doesn't get appended, as expected. I don't know how to check the raw title of a page, can somebody help? Thanks
Rjwilmsi 11:15, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
javascript:alert(escape(wgTitle))
on that page nor inspecting
[1] in hex-editor. I think the article title is okay.
Svick (
talk) 12:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I asked this on the Help page but realised this might be a better place. While pruning my watchlist of watched user pages, I somehow deleted 3000 articles I'm watching. As the article names showed up still on the edit page I did a copy and paste, but although my watchlist now looks ok to my uneducated eye, it doesn't show any changes to articles. Is there a simple reason why? Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 12:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Please see the discussion at the help desk and reply to it here as something strange happened on New Year's Day. Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 17:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I use the greenscreen gadget to prevent the eyestrain I would otherwise get using Wikipedia. I have noticed that on a few usertalk pages (for example, User talk:The ed17, the text appears as black on a black background, which is rather less than ideal. Does anyone know what causes this, and how to fix it? Thanks, DuncanHill ( talk) 00:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry if this is a FAQ (it's not on the actual FAQ!) but are there any tools to scour the database to see what articles/pages two (named) editors have edited in common? Thanks, Bongo matic 04:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
If we reference one source except for minor differences, such as the same book but different pages in it, the normal solution fails if a later editor resequences the main text. More flexible reference tagging is needed.
Problem: Example (invented):
“New York is a city[1] and a state[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.”
This has too much redundancy. It's generated from “New York is a city<ref>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.</ref> and a state<ref>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.</ref> with rivers.”
For more compactness, we try the name attribute:
“New York is a city<ref name="NYG">New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523).</ref> and a state<ref name="NYG" /> with rivers.”
“1. a b New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523).”
But that omits page numbers, so we go back to the longer form, only now we edit the shared part of references to be shorter after the first reference and add the page numbers:
“New York is a city<ref>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.</ref> and a state<ref>New York Geography, above, p. 7.</ref> with rivers.”
This generates a nice result:
“New York is a city[1] and a state[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, above, p. 7.”
Until someone wants to change the order of the referents, that is. Imagine someone else decides that putting the city before the state is locally chauvinist and that from a worldwide perspective the larger and enclosing political unit should come first (never mind whether you agree with that, just suppose an editor decides that). So they edit the main text:
“New York is a state<ref>New York Geography, above, p. 7.</ref> and city<ref>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.</ref> with rivers.”
Here's what'll appear on the article page:
“New York is a state[1] and a city[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, above, p. 4.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.”
Not so readable or accurate: the “above” becomes wrong. And while the editor probably should have moved parts of the references around, if in the main text they're moving not just words but entire paragraphs or sections then that editing of references is unlikely to be done and a bot probably can't be designed to catch it consistently.
Proposal: I suggest a new attribute for <ref>, group="", and two new tags to be nested within <ref name="" group="">. . . .</ref>. They're <long>. . . .</long> and <short>. . . .</short>.
Whenever reflist generates references from referents with the same group="" attribute, the first such reference in order of numbering would state whatever is within <long>. . . .</long> and not what's within <short>. . . .</short>; all other references based on the same group="" value would state whatever is within <short>. . . .</short> and not what's within <long>. . . .</long>; and whatever is within <ref group="">. . . .</ref> but not within either of the two new tags could then be unique, appearing perhaps only once.
In the edit field, both new tags would be simultaneously used, in the form of <ref group="">. . . .<long>. . . .</long>. . . .<short>. . . .</short>. . . .</ref>. Also acceptable would be <ref group="">. . . .<short>. . . .</short>. . . .<long>. . . .</long>. . . .</ref>; the order wouldn't change the meaning. Also acceptable would be <ref group="">. . . .<long>. . . .</long>. . . .</ref> and <ref group="">. . . .<short>. . . .</short>. . . .</ref>. Every ellipsis represents an optional fill-in, although normally nothing would appear for the first ellipsis or between the </long> or </short> closing tag and the subsequent <short> or <long> opening tag. If, for one group value, <long>. . . .</long> occurs more than once, all instances of <long>. . . .</long> in the group would be ignored. If, for one group value, <short>. . . .</short> occurs more than once, all instances of <short>. . . .</short> in the group would be ignored.
The values of group="" and name="" would be independent; coincidence would not be required.
From the example above:
<ref name="NYG" group="NYG"><long>New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523)</long><short>New York Geography</short>, p. 4.</ref>.
<ref name="NYG" group="NYG">, p. 7.</ref>.
Result, in a display:
“New York is a city[1] and a state[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 4.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, p. 7.”
If an editor reverses the referents without editing their content:
“New York is a state[1] and a city[2] with rivers.”
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, p. 4.”
If <ref name="NYG" /> is in the main text, such as if a third referent was added, the short form would be implied, based on a <ref name="NYG" group=""> somewhere, e.g.:
“New York is a state<ref name="NYG" group="NYG"><long>. . . .</long><short>. . . .</short>. . . .</ref> and a city<ref group="NYG">. . . .</ref> with rivers and has been written about again<ref name="NYG" /> and again.<ref name="NYG" />”
“New York is a state[1] and a city[2] with rivers and has been written about again[3] and again.[3]"
“1. ^ New York Geography, by Suzanne Chin, Trafalgar de Nueves, Billy Smith, and Christine Embers (N.Y.: Porterhouse Celery Publishing, 3rd ed. 1523), p. 7.”
“2. ^ New York Geography, p. 4.”
“3. a b New York Geography”
For the empty tags, the group attribute is unnecessary, but the name and group attributes must occur in at least one ref tag somewhere so the tag sets can be associated.
The only anomalous bit is the end-of-reference punctuation: depending on what an author does, a final period would sometimes appear and sometimes not, so, for consistency, an author might omit final periods in all cases where possible.
In the technical implementation, the tags would be meaningless if they appear outside of ref group="" ref or if the group attribute is absent or its value is null. The content of the tags would be treated as if the meaningless tags just weren't there.
As name="" serves a different purpose, it's optional.
Thank you.
Nick Levinson ( talk) 03:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure where to suggest these changes, but I'll make them here. At the bottom of the page for "printable version", is there a need to put "Contact us"? Smallman12q ( talk) 17:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone else missing the external tools links at the top of a history page, bizarrely its only happening in firefox, they're still there in IE-- Jac16888 Talk 22:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
{{ POTD}} includes the text "We are specialized in mobile software development provide new technology software in mobile, such as e-learning mobile software, mobile clips, festival theme etc." and the link http://www.microxsolutions.com/mobile-development.php -- Ronz ( talk) 05:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed at
Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bwilkins 2 that {{Special:Prefixindex/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bwilkins}}
doesn't seem to bold the circular link (i.e., there is a link to the Bwilkins 2 RfA within the Bwilkins 2 RfA, but it shows up as a regular link instead of as bold). This is different than what normally happens (e.g., [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)]]
on this page yields
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) instead of
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)). Anyone know why?
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 23:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The New York Magazine is reporting that the New York Times is going to cease providing free content and will install a "metered" payment system. Please see Wikipedia:Using WebCite for information on how to archive NY Times articles in Wikipedia before they disappear behind a paywall.-- Blargh29 ( talk) 22:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Apologies in advance if this had already been covered before, but I just noticed that a small change can cause hundreds characters and sections to display text like: "?uniq216fca307a11cbc6-nowiki-00000015-qinu?"
in otherwise normal pages. The problem happens in both IE and Firefox so I don't think it's browser dependent.
As an example: look at this old version of a help page. All of the sections below Easy template problem appear to be effected, with their titles turning to all lowercase letters, with section editing disabled, and with massive deletion of data in some of the sections. For example, look at how short this section is (with its new lowercase title) despite the fact that a long conversation is still visible in edit mode - compared to the correct version (note - no changes to this section, but now everything is visible and the title is propercase again). You can see the offending code which was added by someone over the last 6 months in my last edit which seemed to fix the problem. (strange part is that this code is in a section which was added long before my affected conversation took place)
What's really scary is that this data is so completely deleted that if the missing sections included a link to another WP page when you go to the "what links here" section on that other page it won't even know that the hidden text in the Help article has a link there. Perhaps that's unclear - and I could go on and on about how strange this seems, but I want to start the topic first so that the experts can calm me down if this is no big deal. 7 04:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I have no idea where to ask this question so I thought I would try here.
As far as understand the server time is set to the time at its geographical location (ie Florida?). Now isn't this a little geocentric?? WP is global so does it not make sense to set the time as GMT, or better still the time of the international date line. Here in New Zealand we are one of the first countries to see the Sun consequently, I cannot create date related pages with with MY date!! I have fallen foul of a bot on occasion because of this difference. -- Alan Liefting ( talk) - 06:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Editors may like to have their say on this proposal to rationalise the rather long list of Latin characters (the one that now starts with Á á Ć ć É é Í í Ĺ ĺ Ń ń ...).
– ⊥¡ɐɔıʇǝoNoetica! T– 07:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I am trying to debug a monobook script (JavaScript) using Firebug - not having the best of luck. Are there any other reccomended javascript debuggers for Firefox?
thanks, Harry DarkStarHarry ( talk) 14:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I've tried to add support for a ref parameter (as is used in the other citation templates) to {{
cite thesis}}. However, my code does not appear to work:
{{#if {{{ref|}}}|id="{{anchorencode:{{{ref}}}}}"}}
Could someone take a look at it and fix it if possible? Thanks.
Kaldari (
talk) 18:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#if
would help.
Algebraist 18:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
So I recently archived a big list of links from the WP:DERM:MA talk page to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Dermatology_task_force/Missing_articles/Archive_1#Required_Redirects; however, the archived discussion has a "content" index at the beginning. How do I remove that? Thanks in advance! --- kilbad ( talk) 18:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Test wikEdbeta! Featuring powerful template and reference hiding and the new image preview, powered by a real wikicode parser, and with WYSIWYG table editing soon to be rolling out! Experience next generation editing today while others still wait for the main release after the upcoming Firefox 3.6 release.*
Simply disable wikEd as a gadget in your preferences, add "importScript('User:Cacycle/wikEd_dev.js');" to
your skin.js page, push Shift-Reload, and enjoy. And leave your comments on the
wikEd discussion page. Don't forget to try the
button...
(*The Firefox 3.5 bug 519076 slows the addition of long highlighted texts somewhat down. wikEd does not work under Internet Explorer or Opera. Also, I just noticed that 'new section' editing has a bug...) Cacycle ( talk) 23:13, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
Sometime in the past six months, one Hong Kong newspaper changed their content management system URLs slightly without bothering to leave behind redirects, so all the old links to them are broken. I'm thinking this could be fixed automatically by a bot, but I don't know if anyone already has/runs a bot which could do something along these lines.
Basically links in the old format
Become:
I.e. archive_news_detail.asp becomes news_detail.asp, archive_d_str becomes d_str, and you need a new parameter sear_year which is just the first four characters from d_str. See here for an example of me doing it manually. Any pointers? Thanks, cab ( talk) 06:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
This may be a problem at my side, not something wrong with Wikipedia, but some solution is still welcome. When I try to sign manually, I get ´~´~´~´~ instead of ~~~~. Similarly, I get ´{~} instead of {} This only started today, I have never had this before. I am using an Azerty keyboard, Belgian layout, and Firefox 3.0., and everything works as it should in e.g. Microsft Word. Any ideas? Fram ( talk) 12:30, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I am copying this from my talk page as it seems like somethiung that people here may know more about than I do. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 13:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
For some unexplained reason the "Page size" tool has disappeared from my left-hand toolbox. It reappears as a deadlink when I am in edit mode, like now, but otherwise it has vanished. Can you advise me how to get it back? I find it a pretty essential tool. Sorry to trouble you. Brianboulton ( talk) 10:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm in the process of redesigning my user page. I am aware that there are some tools that analyse contributions by a user. In the mid-term I may want to request the admin tool box once I hit 10K edits later this year. It would be nice to be able to lay out on my user page some analysis of what I have done beyond what is there already. The important analytical dimensions I can think of are:
What tools would people recommend for these purposes? Are there any others you can recommend for things I haven't thought of. Thanks-- Peter cohen ( talk) 23:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
This probably has some simple answer, but recently my TOCs keep showing up as collapsed by default instead of open by default. Is this something that I've done? I've asked around and most others aren't seeing it. Gigs ( talk) 05:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
The move-tool page includes an option to suppress creation of a Rdr for the moved page, or of one for each of the two being moved. Usually an article worth moving has a talk page, but the main-namespace page that will take over the moved page's title is unlikely to initially need any talk. I've responded to this situation in various ways. The full range of choices that occurs to me is:
Note that only the last 2 avoid breaking any existing links from other talk pages, in ways whose repair probably require (brief or extensive) consultation of edit histories.
On reflection, i'm inclined to think that immediate soft Rdr is the right approach (soft-Rdr only-when-needed will not occur to many discussion-starting editors, especially the non-signing IPs who often initiate on a page's talk; hard Rdr as talk page content -- for a main-namespace page that was only briefly a Rdr -- violates the
principle of least astonishment, and in fact can create complete frustration on the part of the user: Rdr'n to an article is often unsurprising & the "Rdr'd from..." notice can go unnoticed without harm; in contrast, Rdr'n to a talk page that is only tenuously and perhaps cryptically related to a corresponding un-Rdr'd main-namespace page can be "indistinguishable from [evil] magic", and very off-putting to a non wiki-editor.
I came to VPT intending to suggest changing the move to so that creation of main-namespace and talk Rdrs become separable from each other. If others support my new insight abt soft Rdrs, i suggest that the move tool at least to have a red-tinged message drawing attention to something like
WP:Soft redirect, whenever a combined main-namespace/talk page move is requested.
It might in fact be a good idea, whenever a talk page is moved (even separately) without explicit suppression of Rdr (ands without explicit request for a "hard" Rdr), for the move tool to leave behind a soft Rdr rather than a plain "hard" one.
--
Jerzy•
t 23:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Clicking on File:Apollo 11 Tapes Report.pdf and then "open PDF" brings up Adobe Reader with a blank page and an error message. If I enter "File:Apollo 11 Tapes Report.pdf" into the search box it works. Is this a bug? Bubba73 (Who's attacking me now?), 00:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I have the problem with Firefox and I am using some sort of add-on for PDFs in it. Bubba73 (Who's attacking me now?), 03:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Hm, using Firefox, and it looks pretty clear to me. Woogee ( talk) 22:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I created a table that works fine in my Sandbox, but when I go to put it on the article it's intended for, it screws up. The problem is that I want to keep a background color in the table (a soft pastel green), and also have a dark green border. But when I save it to the article, it surrounds everything below the table with the dark green border, and fills the whole lower part of the article with the light pastel green color. I've tried to do everything I could think of, and have been working on it for hours, all to know avail. Does anyone who knows about table design have time to look at this? I would be so grateful! Here is my Sandbox (to see how it's supposed to look): User:Saukkomies/My Sandbox
And here is the article where it isn't working right: House burning of the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture
You'll see the table when you get there, you can't miss it. It's entitled: Periodization table of Neolithic cultures that practiced house burning Thanks! -- Saukkomies talk 06:24, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
For some reason, an extra line is added immediately before {{ NYinttop}} wherever it's used. Similarly, this revision of {{ Jcttop}} did the same thing until I came up with a workaround this morning. This is probably a MediaWiki bug, but does anyone know of a workaround that can be used to eliminate the extra line in the meantime? (As a side note, the presence of the extra line is only noticeable when the template is preceded by another blank line separating the template from a paragraph; however, I'd appreciate a better workaround than removing that line.) – T M F 12:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
*
, #
, :
, ;
or {|
automatically get a newline at the start" (and similarly at
Help:Newlines and spaces#Automatic newline at the start: "Templates starting with *
, #
, or :
automatically get a newline at the start"). In which case, obscuring the start character(s) with a dummy template may help. —
Richardguk (
talk) 18:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
<table><tr><td>...</td></tr></table>
HTML syntax instead of wikitable syntax, as this is not senstive to line breaks in the code....<LINEBREAK>{|{}}| class="wikitable"...
This seems to translate to if the optional text applies, end it with a linebreak and the opening brace of a wikitable-start; otherwise just have the opening brace of a wikitable-start; then close the pair of braces from the opening #if; then add a pipe to turn the table brace (from either the true or false part of the long #if) into wikitable markup "{|"; then apply the 'wikitable' class.... It's not clear to me why the {|
wikitable markup has been split across the closing pair of braces rather than falling entirely within or (more simply) following the initial conditional code. Maybe changing the code to ...|}}<LINEBREAK>{| class="wikitable"...
would clarify things.This is T14974. Happy‑ melon 00:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I can't seem to find "E-mail User" on the toolbox (or anywhere) on the left side of the page on user pages and user talk pages in which I know they have e-mail enabled. I can always use Special:Email but I'm confused as to why I cannot find it in the toolbox where it always has been. There's no reason that I shouldn't be seeing it as I'm an admin and definitely not blocked and I haven't heard anything about a developer changing the coding to remove the Email User link. Thanks, Valley2 city‽ 15:47, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
At Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom, the transcluded feed of related changes started distrupting the headers for all the sections on the page: [3] . This had been working fine before, but today the page headers went wacky and the only thing that has been able to restore them is removing that transcluded feed. Halp! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.26.235.126 ( talk) 19:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I want to make a parameter in the template which will control the text color. The text entry isn't linked by default. Rather I prefer to make it optional to modify link color along the unlinked text because the default background is quite deep, making the default linking color scheme to hard to read. Can I change the link color by style attribute like style="(link-color):white" or something like that? -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk) 04:42, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Why this code:
inside <pre></pre> result in this:
See for example this in edit view:
<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[File:{{PAGENAME}}|thumb|Legenda]]</span>
It's not the same. Isn't something wrong? Mosca ( talk) 23:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
[[File:{{PAGENAME}}|thumb|Legenda]]
Try:
<span style="white-space:nowrap;"><nowiki>[[File:{{PAGENAME}}|thumb|Legenda]]</nowiki></span>
That is, doubling the nowikis. Look at it in the edit window to see what I mean. Happy‑ melon 23:57, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
<pre><nowiki> ... </nowiki></pre>
usages out there would suddenly have shown their old <nowiki> tags.<nowiki>
". Here's an example, check it out in the edit window too:<nowiki> Some text. </nowiki>
Thanks for you explanation. I though <pre> worked fine unless it had another <pre></pre> inside <pre></pre>. It's strange since I never saw this problem. Always learning. Mosca ( talk) 02:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
<pre>
". The "<
" part simply is the html code for the lower than "<" character. So here's an example with that:<pre> Some text. </pre>
#
" = "#
", space "
" = " 
", pipe "|
" = "|
", and braces "{ }
" = "{ }
" and so on. We mostly use this in template code. Wikipedia of course has
several
articles
about this.Is there a way to generate a list of all articles that fall in the categories:
That would help the India wikiproject review the unsourced BLPs that fall under its purview (at least the ones that are sorted into a India category). Abecedare ( talk) 15:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Update for anyone interested: Intersection search tool worked for me and was used to generate this list, which is now being reviewed by members of India wikiproject. Abecedare ( talk) 23:02, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone aware of a tool which lets an editor see pages with the same two categories, like, for example, Category:Unreferenced BLPs and Category:American songwriters Ikip Frank Andersson (45 revisions restored): an olympic medallist for f**k's sake 22:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I've spent the better part of three weeks trying to figure out, on my own, how to download the templates for Wikipedia to Upload to my own site (which has the Wikimedia engine installed) and I am at a loss. I have already asked for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates and Wikipedia:Help desk the WikiProject Templates sent me to the Help Desk which sent me here... can someone help me out? Does anyone know how to do this? Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati - ( When all else fails, play dead ) ( talk) 19:19, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
That thingy under the edit box where you can select symbols, IPA, Greek letters, etc doesn't seem to be working for me. I clisk on the relevant bit in the drop-down menu, but the symbols or whatever don't come up. I'm using IE8 on WinXP. DuncanHill ( talk) 23:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
When I search anything in wikipedia no image will show with text, this problem has been occuring for last few weeks, I have cleared my cache but still I am facing problem —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.20.19.18 ( talk) 04:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
upload.wikimedia.org
, since that is where our images are loaded from. If you have an "adblocking" plug-in in your web browser check there. Such blocking can also be done in the firewall if you are using one, so check there too.Why isn't {{ sec link auto}} behavior by default? Its incredibly annoying when you're using a secure connection, that whenever you click on an interwiki/interlanguage link, you get taken to the insecure connection. For example:
I don't really see the convenience in not making it default to a secure link if you're currently using a secure connection. Smallman12q ( talk) 19:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Common.js/secure.js is now automatically loaded when you use the English Wikipedia from the secure server. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
There's a bug with dumps with this link http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20091128/
it becomes https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/dumps/wiki/
For those on the secure server, observe:
http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20091128/
Smallman12q (
talk) 23:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
There's a major problem I've noticed. If this doesn't belong here, please move it to where it does belong. Anyway, whenever you type a special page that doesn't exist, it always says "Return to Main Page". Now, the problem here is that it always says that, no matter what page you were on before (so if you were on the page Wikipedia, for example, it would still say "Return to Main Page"). Please fix this as soon as possible. Thank you. -- Ha dg er 04:03, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
(undent) Why not just use the HTTP referer to determine where the viewer came from? Isn't that what it's for? -- Thin boy 00 @076, i.e. 00:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
My name is Christopher Kelly. I'm just a wikipedia reader, like the millions out there. And I have just ONE suggestion to make. It's about the search bar. I would prefer that Wikipedia place it more boldly in the upper center rather than inconspicuously 1/4 of the way down on the left hand side. Is it just me, or do others agree?
1/24/2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellyc01 ( talk • contribs) 07:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there by any chance anything like HTML Tidy for templates? If you are not familiar with HTML tidy, and want to see what it does, here is an online tool for HTML tidy [4]. Is there any tool that helps to make template logic more visually intuitive - and cleans it up - checks for missing braces, etc? Thanks. stmrlbs| talk 22:35, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
/* Colour matching brackets in a copy of the edit box.
[[User:ais523/bracketmatch.js]] */
importScript("User:ais523/bracketmatch.js");
Hi! I've been working on the Linda McMahon page recently, and the page is up to about 70 references right now. I'm not sure why, but due to some technical problem, the only references that show are up to number 31 and that's it. The other references are still there, but when you click on them, they don't lead to anything in the references section. I use the <ref></ref> tags, and the references section is marked with {{reflist|2}}.
I appreciate your help. Thanks! -- Screwball23 talk 03:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
At a current FLC, it has been brought to light that ordinal rankings such as 1st, 2nd, 19th, 24th don't sort properly in standard tables like this one. Instead of sorting in descending order of rank as 1st/2nd/19th/24th, it sorts as 19th/1st/24th/2nd, as shown here:
Year | Nominated work | Category | Result | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
2001 | First entry | 1st | ||
2002 | Second entry | 2nd | ||
2019 | Nineteenth entry | 19th | ||
2024 | Twenty-fourth entry | 24th |
Is there an elegant way to solve this? Any help appreciated, Skomorokh 18:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Year | Nominated work | Category | Result | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
2001 | First entry | 1st | ||
2002 | Second entry | 2nd | ||
2019 | Nineteenth entry | 19th | ||
2024 | Twenty-fourth entry | 24th |
Year | Nominated work | Category | Result | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
2001 | First entry | 1st | ||
2002 | Second entry | 2nd | ||
2019 | Nineteenth entry | 19th | ||
2024 | Twenty-fourth entry | 24th |
Thanks very much for the workaround chaps, very helpful. It would seem preferable though, given the likelihood that charts will become more common, for there to be tables or templates that "understood" ordinal sorting, as in "table class:ordinal" or similar setting. Mahalo, Skomorokh 23:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I suggest that the Image Annotator gadget be installed for the Wikipedia site. This is a gadget that allows people to comment on portions of a picture. The gadget is active over at WikiCommons and I find that it's useful. Installing the gadget on Wikipedia would not only make this functionality available there, but would also allow Wikipedia readers to see comments attached to Wikicommons photos. Without the gadget Wikipedia readers will not even realize that there are notes attached to a Wikicommons photo.
Here is an example of a Wikicommons photo that has notes attached. By hovering your mouse cursor over the photo you can read the notes. Also notice the "add note" button, that's the entry point to using the gadget. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Magnus_890_electric_chord_organ.JPG
Here is a Wikipedia page that displays the above photo from Wikicommons, but the notes are not visible because the Image Annotator gadget is not available on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_organ
If a reader was to find the photo interesting and click on it to get an enlarged view, s/he would get to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magnus_890_electric_chord_organ.JPG
If you hover your mouse on the above photo you will see that the notes do not get displayed. The reader would not even know that any notes are available. To see the notes, the reader would have to be really persistent and also lucky enough to click the correct one of several links on this page to get to the source page on the Wikimedia Commons page, where they would finally be able to see the notes. Few readers would be that persistent.
The gadget can only be installed by an admin. I have requested the admins install this but three different ones have vacillated, with one calling for some sort of vote/consensus. That's installed on my talk page.
The help file for installing the gadget is here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator/Installation
TheLarryBrown ( talk) 04:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
A few moments ago, I clicked the "undo" button to revert revision 339578635 at Discover Card. I also manually edited the undo to restore the Sears Tower link (which had been changed to Willis Tower in revision 339011701). When I saved this edit, I noticed the bytecount inexplicably dropped from 13,223 to 11,388; I then checked the diff and saw that various citations and prose were removed through my edit. I then attempted to simply undo my edit, without making and manual changes (until I figured out what was going wrong), which did not restore the material that went missing in my first edit. I'm at a loss for figuring out what's going on here. Anybody? jæs (talk) 00:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
title
parameter and shows the revision from oldid
parameter. The correct link is probably this one:
[5].
Svick (
talk) 01:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there a preloadtitle code in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php which allows you to move one page to another, simply by entering a url?
In the alternative:
Ikip 04:24, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
We're never going to make a URL so you can do something automatically just by following a URL. If we allowed that, it would be easy to trick a sysop into clicking a link to move Main Page to Main Page ON WHEELS!!!!. You can't do things like edit or move pages without clicking an actual button, or running a script. — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 16:15, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I have two suggestions for the printable version.
The first is with references/notes. Could we remove the "^" and a, b, c...etc from the printable version? You can't click on the ^ or a,b,c,etc in the printable version. However, I would still like for there to be a counter of how many times that reference was used...maybe something like (#) in small font.
The second is that I'd like to request that you add a small icon next to the printable version so that more people know that there is a printer friendly page. Smallman12q ( talk) 23:35, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Hope that answers your questions. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 00:57, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Why do you assume the "Printable version" link should be limited by CSS? It could point to a printer-oriented page rendering system using different logic to handle citations and embed high resolution images. After all, we already render thumbnails at user-preferred sizes. Given that the current printable version offers no benefits (except for old browsers) Featured picture criterion #2 ("is of sufficiently high resolution to allow quality print reproduction") is misleading. Contributors should be made aware that screen-resolution images are entirely sufficient for Wikipedia's purposes and they don't need to GFDL/CC3 high resolution versions of their IP. - Pointillist ( talk) 01:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps I'm not explaining this very well. When a reader clicks the "Printable version" link of an article (e.g.
Helix-turn-helix), an HTML page is prepared and downloaded to the browser for printing. Currently the page embeds screen-resolution images (e.g. src="200px-Lambda_repressor_1LMB.png" class="thumbimage" height="294" width="200"
). Instead, the page could embed the original image (e.g. src="
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Lambda_repressor_1LMB.png" class="thumbimage" height="294" width="200"
). Either way, the image will be scaled to the same height and width, the layout doesn't change and no more ink is used. But... using the original image, which contains more data, will show more detail when it is rendered to a printer. This is a simple change ...all that is needed is to use the filename of the original bitmap (or best rastered SVG) image rather than the screen-scaled version. If we aren't prepared to do this, why should contributors upload print-resolution images? -
Pointillist (
talk) 02:45, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
The formatting on my user page is being broken by the 'userboxtop' template. Notice the huge gap in the section titled "Interesting Wikipedia Articles". Any suggestions on how to fix this? Jrtayloriv ( talk) 22:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
It seems to have something to do with the {{ top}} etc, templates for creating columns. That is the only noticable difference I can see between my page, and that of, say, User:Soxwon. Any idea why these might interfere with each other? Jrtayloriv ( talk) 22:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
width: 100%
", so in most browsers it flows below the right floating boxes on your user page so it can get that 100% width. The trick is to instead use "margin: 0;
" in the table, then you get a box that uses all available width but doesn't flow down below the right floating boxes. So I hand coded a table for you with that setting.I have two questions about viewing multiple categories. (1) What is the best way to get a list of articles that are in two particular categories? For example, how can I get a list of articles that are in Category:All unreferenced BLPs *and* Category:American rock guitarists? (2) What is the best way to get a list of articles that are in a category or in any of its sub-categories? For example, how can I get a list of articles that are in Category:American rock musicians *or* are in any sub-category of Category:American rock musicians? — Mudwater ( Talk) 12:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
It would be a good idea for a wikiproject to have a section listing the articles within its scope that are in need of some kind of maintenance. For this, it would be needed to make a category intersection between the category or number of categories whose articles are in such scope (like "Category:Foo", "Category:History of Foo", etc.), and the ones that include a certain template or are included as well at a certain maintenance category. I know of tools that allow to make such querys myself, but is there a tool that allows to make it automatically and place/update the results at a specific wikiproject page? So, someone would just see the list, choose an article from it and work with it, with the list adding new articles needing maintenance or removing those who don't (meaning, the template has been added/removed) without need of human intervention to do so. MBelgrano ( talk) 15:52, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm encountering a problem with {{
ug}}
, which includes Arabic (right-to-left) script. In a few edits, such as
this, things simply get really screwed up, the left-to-right script (the dates) after the template end up getting mixed up in the template if you use a regular space instead of a , and even when it looks fine in the edit window (using ) the actual display is wrong, as you can see, the dates show up before the Arabic.
Interestingly, this template also includes Latin script, and when I
added that after the Arabic everything suddenly became fine. I looked within the template itself and I didn't see any missing </span>
tags or anything like that, so I'm not sure what's causing it.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 17:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
There seems to be an annoying, ever-present div added via Javascript to the page, preventing me from right-clicking properly, as I have discovered with Safari's Inspector. It contains an empty iframe, and this image:
. It is normally hidden using visibility:hidden, but that doesn't actually hide it, I think display:none should have been used instead?
What is it, anyway? --( ƒî) » 04:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Etherpad at etherpad recently became open sourced by google. It allows for real-time/simultaneous editing of a text document among several people. I wanted to suggest that wikipedia host and possibly integrate etherpad given that most wikipedia articles are just text, this would allow for much much much much better collaboration amongst several editors.
Any thoughts on this? Smallman12q ( talk) 21:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
The book generator uses the term "layouting" during rendering of PDFs. But "layouting" isn't a word. I'd like to change it to "laying out", but can't find the relevant MediaWiki page. Anyone any ideas? Stifle ( talk) 14:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Just spamming this. Pre tags have not been used in Geshi since long time. Locos epraix ~ Beastepraix 15:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
For making post requests using the mediawiki api for editing , do we need to also send a cookie, or is the edittoken enough? Could we send just part of a cookie such as the edit token...Which information is required, and which is optional...the documentation is a bit lacking. Smallman12q ( talk) 00:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
In case someone on the tech side is having a bout of insomnia, here's a puzzle to ponder. I was over at the reference desk and saw this thread Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Flag_Ratios. the interesting thing is the small print comments at the bottom of the thread - when the wikimedia software merges two contemporaneous edits, why does it merge them in the wrong temporal order? that seems like something that would be really easy to fix if it could be tracked down (which might be a real bear). -- Ludwigs2 07:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
how do I change my icon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Czimerman ( talk • contribs) 18:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I am having a technical issue with categorizing video samples of films. Please see Category talk:Video samples of films. Thanks, Erik ( talk) 21:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Is there any magic word that lets you control which subpage you get, in the context of pages with several levels of subpages? For example, FAC subpages, where you might have Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Foo/archive1.
{{BASEPAGENAME}}
yields Featured article candidates/Foo
{{SUBPAGENAME}}
yields archive1
Foo
?rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 04:29, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
{{#titleparts:Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Foo/archive1|1|2}}
returns Foo - Documentation for it is
here.
Mr.
Z-man 06:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Has anyone else out there noticed that hits have not been counted on articles since the 23rd? I visited many random pages from two different IP's and page statistics is showing zero hits. Anyone know what this is about? Thanks in advance! :) -- Neon Sky ( talk) 19:43, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
en.wikipedia.org site. Seems to be working now. :) -- Neon Sky ( talk) 01:37, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I did a trouble ticket at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ and it was fixed relatively quickly (within 2 hours). I suggest trying there. :) Good luck!-- Neon Sky ( talk) 23:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm collaborating with the basque Wikipedia and we are interested implementing new functionalities. New for us because you have them yet. I'm almost sure that the solutions might be related with Common.css or Common.js but as I tried I need help. Also we talked about this in our Wikipedia but nobody knows:
Please, feel free to move this talk to a better place but I couldn't find it. I would appreciate any tip you give and sorry of my poor English. Thanks. -- Inorbez ( talk) 09:30, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't know how but I reach this page and there is explained what changes must be done in order to use letters and no numbers with cites. If somebody knows or can give any tip related to PDF downloading I would appreciate it. -- Inorbez ( talk) 13:08, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I have a bad habit of starting an edit, getting distracted (perhaps by something more urgent, that that edit brings to my attention), and finishing it, say a day later. Occasionally this puts me thru a process of ed-conf resolution (which i've been dealing with for years and years, and flatter myself that i handle smoothly and responsibly).
It
appears that i began a long edit -- presumably such an interrupted one -- on the 18th, not completing it until [
mumbles indecipherably] later. It turns out that that explanation would imply that i started my edit in a
62-second window between two saves. (Most likely, the fact the first of them saved in the first second of a minute is mere coincidence.) It also implies what i am unwilling to admit, that i overrode an edit-conflict notice without the slightest adjustment, in light of the large and visible additions since i started, in what i saved -- unless, that is, a bug, perhaps -- accompanied by server anomaly -- prevented the usual edit conflict processing, so that i overwrote edits i'd never seen, without getting any indication that i was doing so.
I hasten to note that i don't expect this to be pursued unless it bears an uncanny resemblance to an earlier or later report: i firmly support the principle that "if it only happened once, it didn't really happen". But perhaps the developers have a virtual
knick-knack shelf, where curious events are stashed away, and occasionally taken down and turned over until they evoke "Pffft!" or "Hmmph", and put back to sit there for another week or year -- but perhaps eventually earning a "WTF" or "Wait a sec, that reminds me of ...."
Thanks to any readers.
--
Jerzy•
t 23:18, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Looking for someone more experienced to suggest if this could be improved as I think it can (have searched Pump archives).
For a number of Stub Categories, an image is used as the icon next to the text "This xyz article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." While many of the images are SVG or PNG of reasonable size, a surprising number are JPG. Some JPG stub icons (e.g. Abraham_Lincoln_small.png; Frederick_Jackson_Turner.jpg ) are very reasonably sized at 3-15 kb, but there are a surprising number that are 200kb to 2+ Mb. They are shown at about 40x40 pixels, so that resolution really isn't needed.
Figuring that many jpg stub icons are 150 kb oversized, and some even 10 times that, we're not talking about it massive bandwidth for each use, but how many stub-views are there per year? Just serving three stub images (Trilobite-stub; Europe Archaeology-stub; Botany-stub) was a gigabyte excess for December (usage from http://stats.grok.se/en/200912). Multiply that by all .jpg stub images over about 50k and it might save some modest amount of bandwidth bill.
Since training users to not link stub-images of large size is probably not effective, and there are too many to fix by hand, it seems that the easiest solution would be for a better programmer than I to write a bot that posts a small version of jpgs linked in Stub templates, then relinks the stub template to the new image. I just don't have the programming skills to propose it myself, esp. not to make and shrink images.
Discussion and suggestions welcome. It was previously alluded to as a decent idea in principle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DWAP addendum by Simetrical) but hasn't happened. Is it too hard, or not worth it, or perhaps I've actually had an idea? NotTires ( talk) 01:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
trilobite-stub}}
is 936 B, {{
Europe-archaeology-stub}}
's image has 902 B and {{
Botany-stub}}
's has 813 B. That's far from a waste, so there is no need to do anything.
Svick (
talk) 01:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Hi. Wasn't sure whether to post here or at Help, but here goes.
I saw a Cat intersection tool recently, that looked great. No idea where it was.
I'm one of the many editors trying ref as many unreffed BLPs as possible, as quickly as possible. There are a number of us working through a list at the cricket WikiProject, but I've just realised that there's not many other active editors who are fans of Norwich City F.C. (that I'm aware of) and I'd bet there's a large intersection between the unreffed BLPs Cat and Category:Norwich_City_F.C._players.
If someone could produce a list for me and bung it in my userspace I'd be most grateful. -- Dweller ( talk) 14:16, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I was unable to upload an image using IE8 while a wikipedian with FF was able to. Please make Wikipedia image upload accessable to Wikipedians with IE8, which a majority of the people uses. -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 16:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
This is what I'm seeing: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6992/scrshot.png -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 16:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I submitted that bug. -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 16:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Further to this message at the Help Desk, it appears that Google is indexing user pages. I thought all pages in userspace were noindexed? Mine also has {{ NOINDEX}} on it, but has been indexed by Google. Anyone know what's going on - is Google ingnoring noindex for some reason? Thanks. – ukexpat ( talk) 22:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
{{NOINDEX}}
should work (Google search of your user name did show up subpages of your userpage, but not the userpage itself). User talk pages on the other hand, are noindexed. Also see
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User page indexing.
Svick (
talk) 23:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)I don't know why, but there is starting to be a high database server lag, and the time keeps increasing. Right now, it says "changes newer than 361 seconds may not appear in this list" on my watchlist. In other words, the database lag is up to 361 seconds right now. I'm pretty sure it's not just my computer. If an administrator can fix this, please do so. Thank you. -- Ha dg er 02:11, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm having a strange issue that I've never encountered before. Usually when you put a template onto an article, it doesn't matter if you use the horizontal or vertical method of assigning parameters... However, I seem to get different results on a template I'm making. If I assign a value to a parameter (say a number) in the vertical format (as in {{[[Template:template |template ]]}}, and then have it place that number in the middle of a sentence, it adds the line break after the number, effectively making it impossible to call a file name with that number in it.
How do I prevent a variable from holding onto that line break, instead of only the value? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 22:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
{{template |param1 |param2 |param3=blah }}
{{User:Floydian/Infobox_Ontario_road |Hwy |401 |...
[[Image:Ontario {{{2|}}}.svg|100x100px|alt=A road sign with the number {{{2}}} in the centre.]]
{{{2|}}}
" causes the file name "Image:Ontario 401 .svg
", when we really want "Image:Ontario 401.svg
". That is a known issue.alt=
" part we get a line break after the "{{{2}}}
" when fed the 401 value! Very nasty.{{#if:x| {{{2}}} }}
". So I changed the line to this:[[Image:Ontario {{#if:x| {{{2|}}} }}.svg|100x100px|alt=A road sign with the number {{#if:x| {{{2}}} }} in the centre.]]
{{User:Floydian/Infobox_Ontario_road | 1 = Hwy | 2 = 401 | 3 = ...
{{#if:x| }}
" checks if the string "x" has one or more characters, and "x" is one character, so that if-case is always true. Another way to write it is perhaps clearer:{{#if: Put some text here to make it always true | true | false }}
{{#if:x| {{{2|}}} }}
" will always return the "{{{2|}}}
". The nice part is that MediaWiki's
parserFunctions have a side effect: They strip away surrounding whitespace from their input.*
" and "#
". So if we feed "* Text.
" to the "{{{2|}}}
" parameter and we have this code:Alfa{{#if:x| {{{2|}}} }}beta
Alfa{{{2|}}}beta
*
" or "#
" then you can't use such whitespace stripping. Then you have to use named parameters instead, since they also strip whitespace but without interpreting the leading "*
" and "#
". As I have mentioned above, you can turn unnamed parameters into "named" parameters by feeding them as "{{temp| 1 = data }}
", but better choose a name for the parameter so users don't get sloppy and try to use "{{temp| data }}
".*
" or "#
" then that always gets interpreted, and you still get the list output:
{{#if:x| }}
", and then we don't get the "*
" and "#
" problem. So I went looking for a good name for that template, and discovered another user beat me to it: {{
StripWhitespace}} does exactly that. Very nifty.{{StripWhitespace| x = {{{2|}}} }}
" for every unnamed parameter in our templates is inefficient, so better use named parameters from starters. But {{StripWhitespace}} can be nice to add to already deployed templates to make them more forgiving on the input.Wow! Quite the explanation, but it certainly makes sense now. I think what it comes down to is that any parameter that is displayed in a string of text needs to be named, or else problems arise. Given that I've decided to name the number parameter so that it can be displayed and simplify things. Thats what documentation is for after all. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 17:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
There was a discussion regarding Template:Collapsible list which died out a couple months ago, but never came to a solution. Is there anyone that can figure out why the show/hide link displays differently in IE7 than every other browser? Assuming it hasn't expired yet, this page shows the screenshots of the different browsers. Thanks, MrKIA11 ( talk) 16:48, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me or are watchlists not updating? mine's been stuck at 19:10 (UTC, I suppose) for a good long bit now. -- Ludwigs2 04:13, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Now it says that edits newer than 743 seconds may not appear! We are going back to the present! Hurray! :) -- Ha dg er 05:07, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
You can usually see what's going on with the servers at the Wikitech server admin log, although if they're really busy (like last night) the log may not be their top priority. In this case it was a single balky server. Acroterion (talk) 13:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Anyone else having trouble connecting to freenode for the Wikipedia IRC channels? I was disconnected just after a global notice mentioning some migration to newnet?? Maybe it's just temporary.. -- œ ™ 23:18, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
There's a problem with the footer on WMF project pages.
The privacy policy text doesn't line up correctly. I'm using Firefox 3.5 on Windows XP. Does anyone know where to report this? Only minor, but still something that should probably get fixed. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 23:39, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
900px -- Tyw7 ( Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 01:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
A recent change to something in the footer caused all Wikipedia articles to generate invalid HTML. For example, the Wikipedia article A fails validation: if you visit the W3C Markup Validation Service, the report for the article on A lists 6 errors, starting with:
a non-profit organization.</li><br /><li class="noprint"><a class='internal'
Can someone who knows how Wikipedia article footers are generated please fix these errors? Thanks. Eubulides ( talk) 04:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
When rendered at 2000px, File:Alaska Volcano Observatory.svg does not display correctly. It seems that anything above the 350px does not display the outer letters correctly. Unfortunately the image is non-free, so I can't put up a screenshot, but I do believe this is an error with rendering/scaling. Smallman12q ( talk) 17:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
What has happened with the flag template for Austria? When you look at Triple Crown of Motorsport e.g., there is only a rectangular next to Jochen Rindt where the flag should have been. John Anderson ( talk) 18:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
The links in the "comments" section of wiki commons images are red if they link to a wikicommons page. Although the wikicommons page/category may exist, the links in the comments apparently relink to whichever wiki they are in rather than prepending "commons:". Is this a fixable bug, or would it require a bit of back end work? Smallman12q ( talk) 01:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
The <sub> tag used in the barnstar template causes the words within it to be covered by the invisible border of the table in IE7 and reportedly in IE8 as well ( Exmaple) What's the function and purpose for this tag? -- Sameboat - 同舟 ( talk) 02:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Please see Template talk:City-region#Move to deprecate. Dabomb87 ( talk) 02:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there a way to add some code to a page so that a new section created with the new section / + tab would come pre-populated with some text? Thanks, Bongo matic 06:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
__NONEWSECTIONLINK__
can remove the button but I don't think that should be done without very good reason on a discussion or report page where we want new sections.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 15:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)Yes, I figured as much. But generally, what happens when a user clicks the new section / + button? Is there any way to override the behavior either for oneself (e.g., by changing your monobook.js or something), or for a particular page? Bongo matic 16:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Whenever there is new edits to pages that I watch, I can't view the new edits when I click on the page. When it lets me, I'm only able to view new edits by going to the editing history to compare diffs. Joe Chill ( talk) 12:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering if someone might assist me with a user space template. It's basically an image of an "End of correspondence" stample that I created in the Gimp. I've managed to get it to float over the text without much of an issue, however for some reason it's leaving a large amount of space down the bottom of the image. Does anyone have any ideas why this is? The template is User:Tbsdy lives/EndOfCorr and a test page is User:Tbsdy lives/EndOfCorr/Test. You can see what its doing there. Thanks! - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 20:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
span.mw-headline:target { background-color: #fbe54e;}
Adding this to common.css will highlight the heading of the section when clicked from the TOC. A more advanced example with permalinking in the heading is given on the Toolserver, which could be implemented here with javascript. — Dispenser 23:50, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I raised a brief proposal at WT:Featured article candidates#Template:la to add a <noinclude>ed template to subpages of WP:FAC. I believe such an addition wouldn't affect the load times of WP:FAC (where the subpages are all transcluded) because of the noinclude tags, but could someone familiar with load time stuff take a look at it to make sure? Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 03:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
How does one extract an image from a pdf and still have that image retain its original metadata(if it had any)? Smallman12q ( talk) 21:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
pdfimages -j foo.pdf prefix
¦
Reisio (
talk) 12:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
There is a place to click for what links to the old page name on the page that says a move was successful.
I just moved an article and was told "No pages link to WOHS". I knew of some that did since I created the links in the first place, and no one had fixed the links yet. I went to the page that has the redirect on it and there was a list, and I discovered a template that was responsible for many of the links, but after I fixed the template, the pages still showed up as having links to WOHS. Except for sports networks (which the former WOHS may or may not still be a part of), supposedly I have fixed all the pages with actual links, but there may be others I don't know about. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:57, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I moved Charles Stanley to Charles Stanley (disambiguation) and Charles Stanley (pastor) to Charles Stanley. When I went to make the latter move, it would not let me do it until I deleted the redirect left behind by the first move. Is that an intentional new feature or a bug? You used to be able to move over top of a redirect without having to delete it first provided that it had never been anything but a redirect. Sorry if this is old news. Thanks. -- B ( talk) 22:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Can someone please look at Thomas Baker (aviator) in IE8? I (finally) downloaded Safari (which I hate, old dog, new trick) because I'm having this problem across numerous FACs; it's not only Baker, I've seen it on dozens of articles. They display fine in Safari, but not in IE8. Also, the problems seem random; in the case of Baker, it's the infobox, but in other articles, I see it on some images, and not on others in the same article. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
--
Tyw7 (
Talk •
Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 01:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
But I still have the problem, on many articles :) And I still hate Safari. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 02:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
See:
thumb||none --
Tyw7 (
Talk •
Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 11:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Plot thickens. The problem is gone now on Bodiam Castle, but still there on HMS Calliope (1884) and Thomas Baker (aviator). I logged out, re-loaded pages, cleared cache, have same problem when logged out. I removed all add-ons, re-loaded, cleared cache, still have problem. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 21:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Category:Rescaled fairuse images contains all images that have been tagged with {{ Non-free reduced}}, to help us get rid of old versions of images that have been shrunken to help us comply with nonfree content criterion 3. When this template is applied to these images, it has a timestamp attached so that it will automatically go into Category:Rescaled fairuse images more than 7 days old; all files where the old versions are more than 7 days old can be deleted. However, I just went through the parent category deleting images that were well over a week old, including some that were tagged last year. Any reason why these images wouldn't be showing up in the subcategory? Nyttend ( talk) 01:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
When SteveMcCluskey fixed the Sarton citation in History of science I decided to cast it into the harvnb format. Unfortunately, when one uses Author|Year in the citation the software links are very picky and insist on the format yyyy instead of 1927-48 which would be the real citation. Is there now a better way? -- Ancheta Wis ( talk) 04:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
harvnb}}
citation seems to work correctly.Not so fast- there area few mysteries still unsolved. I have just been on Royton, I thought sorting out a silly sp that was preventing the harv citations from working--- well none of them worked so I added the magic powder ref = harv. Most now work! I zapped a few by changing the ref to ref=CITEREFBigEars1947 format- then remembered this post and stopped. Why? Why doesn 't Lewis work or McPhillips but Reid_ does?-- ClemRutter ( talk) 23:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
|year=
YYYY or |date=
any form of complete date should work, but |date=
YYYY will not. If provided with |date=
3 Feb 2010 the template should populate |Year=
2010 by itself. When enabled,
user:Citation bot corrects this common error, but it is presently blocked largely because it doesn't compensate correctly for {{
cite book}}'s anomalous behaviour, which differs in some regards from most of the cite xxx family and from {{
citation}}.
LeadSongDog
come howl 17:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
There is lots of articles with broken Harvard references, part of there errors was created by requiring ref = harv
in {{cite *}}
templates, the rest is broken from different reasons. If anybody is interested in fixing them, list is available at
[8].
Svick (
talk) 10:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
Citation}}
has default setting ref=harv
, so setting it explicitly doesn't break anything. Your approach could cause that Harvard citation links to the wrong book and also invalid HTML in the rare case when there are two books from the same author and with the same year. Invalid HTML was the main concern when this was decided at
Template talk:Citation/core#We should never render invalid HTML.
Svick (
talk) 15:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
harvcoltxt}}
used links like [[this article#CITEREFsomething]]
, when the tool counted only [[#CITEREFsomething]]
. Because the second form is better (works as expected when viewing old revisions or when using preview), I changed the template.
Svick (
talk) 17:58, 3 February 2010 (UTC)ref=harv
to the one citation worked fine there.
Svick (
talk) 18:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I was clicking "Random article" and was eventually sent to Manteaux. Shouldn't the "Random article" feature avoid soft redirect pages? It's quite an unsatisfying article to send browsing readers to. Comet Tuttle ( talk) 18:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Articles that are well sourced quickly become unreadable due to the overwhelming number of in-line footnotes. Is there any way to click a button/link to temporarily hide them for the sake of readability? If not, where should I request this feature for future updates? Many thanks! -- Clifflandis ( talk) 04:02, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
javascript: var refs = document.getElementsByClassName('reference'); for (var i = 0; i < refs.length; i++) { void(refsi].parentNode.removeChild(refsi])) };
sup.reference a
"?) that could be amended. We already have a (
somewhat
subtle) shading difference for links to other websites, so this would be an extension of an existing principle. —
Richardguk (
talk) 22:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reposted from Help talk:Preferences#Add link from Special:Preferences:
Could a direct link be added from Special:Preferences to either Help:Preferences or meta:Help:Preferences? It must be a common page for people to want help on. More generally, should more Special: pages have a link to the relevant Help: page?
Also, would it be useful to have a direct link to Special:Search alongside the Go/Search buttons on each page? At present, if you want to search without losing the page you are reading or editing, you have to open another page and then click search; that's two clicks, or three clicks to submit an advanced search. This is annoying for such a common task. Alternatively, perhaps users could have an option in Preferences for the Search button to show its results in a new window (akin to one of the options in Google's interface). I'm using MonoBook and don't know whether this is addressed in other skins.
— Richardguk ( talk) 21:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
This template, used all over the Main Page and elsewhere, originally came into use because of a Firefox bug that caused problems with word wrapping around images. The bug in question is detailed here. However, now that the bug has been marked RESOLVED FIXED and these demos appear to display properly (at least, in my version of Firefox), do we really need this template anymore? Sorry if I don't fully understand the issue, but what is preventing normal * bullets from being used now that the bug has been fixed? — The Earwig @ 03:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
The following is redundant. Please see Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Wikipedia Citation Style#Feature request: User preference for styling citations
Suggestion for user preferences After discussing the deletion of a redundant citation tag, I considered whether or not Wikipedia/Mediawiki software could have a user preference to style citations according to different standards (e.g. MLA, APA, Chicago, etc.) Presently, sources are to be cited using {{ Citation}} and similar templates such as {{ Cite web}}, filling in a variety of parameters to generate a citation. An example follows:
*{{Citation |editor-last=Christoyannopoulos |editor-first=Alexandre J. M. E. |title=Religious Anarchism: New Perspectives |format=Hardback |edition=1st |date=August 1, 2009 |publisher=[[Cambridge Scholars Publishing]] |isbn=1443811327}}
will generate:
{{
citation}}
: |format=
requires |url=
(
help)Every article on Wikipedia already has a "Cite this page" link that leads to a variation of Special:Cite (e.g. this example.) On these instances of Special:Cite, citations are given using the fields:
Page name
Author
Publisher
Date of last revision
Date retrieved
Permanent link
Primary contributors
Page Version ID
with the following styles:
(Other styles that might be useful: A Manual for Writers of Research Papers, Theses, and Dissertations and ISO 690.)
It seems reasonable to me that Wikipedia/Mediawiki software could generate on-the-fly variations for citation styles in the same way that there is a user preference for dates. The same information is present to all users, but arranged in a way that the user chooses if logged in and with a user-defined setting. Unlike date linking in article namespace, there is no problem of overlinking, as this information is already present in the fields of {{ Citation}} (or {{ Cite web}}, etc.)
The bonuses to this approach are as follows:
Does this seem like a reasonable or desirable suggestion to anyone else? I wasn't sure whether I should post this here, to Meta, or to mediawiki.org, but I figured this would get me the most feedback. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 05:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there any way I can get a copy of the complete deletion log of whole months or years? The data is publicly available at Special:Log/delete, but only a small part at a time. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 18:39, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
FireFox 3.5.7. Monobook, with advanced toolbar off.
When I edit, the toolbar is gone, except for a Cite button enabled by the refTools gadget. The font style in the edit window is different (monospaced?) and if I copy content from another window, the font style is retained. I'm guessing the devs are playing with the usability stuff again. See Wikipedia:Help desk#Lost toolbar for other editors with the same issues. -— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 03:39, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
This morning, I noticed that some edits I made using Firefox did not insert paragraphs properly. In other words, I left a blank line between each paragraph, but when I previewed or saved the page, the paragraphs were not there. I switched to Internet Explorer, and the paragraphs seem to work. This was not an issue yesterday. Has something changed in the past 24 hours or so? Acdixon ( talk • contribs • count) 15:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there a tool/process that can compare the contents of two categories to see if there is any overlap between those two? -- Blargh29 ( talk) 20:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Last time I checked this didn't work with more than two categories. Has this been fixed? Is there a way to gain SQL access to perform arbitrary (read-only of course) queries and intersections? SharkD Talk 04:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
The easiest way to deal with the unreferenced biography of living people backlog is to assign it to volunteers to at minimum add them to their watchlists. I don't know if there's any way for the system to add pages to someone's watchlist fully automatically, but there are ways to create links to automatically watch a number of pages.
Is there a system to add articles to an editors watchlist automatically? Ikip 06:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I was going to say " mw:Extension:PovWatch, see also bug 20523" but that extension is no longer maintained. MER-C 02:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any facility within the MediaWiki software that distinguishes a "watched" article from a "watched by an editor who is still alive and gives a damn anymore" article, although perhaps the external (toolserver) software makes that distinction - however a "watcher count" is always interesting if it is zero. Ikip - MZMcBride, vicious devil that he is, possesses this data. Why not approach him? Ask for a random or structured sample of 100 or 1000 unwatched BLP's in a format that you can paste into your raw watchlist. I've been thinking of asking for the same thing, I could very easily absorb an extra 100 articles to watch. Franamax ( talk) 03:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
In Geoffrey Eglinton there are links to the Wollaston Medal and the Dan David Prize, both of which appear normal but I can't click on them. When I point my mouse at them, the arrow changes to the giant capital I that it does inside edit boxes, instead of the little hand that it normally does on wikilinks. Anyone know what's happenning or how to fix it? Thanks. DuncanHill ( talk) 13:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've made a script which creates a tab at the top of the page, but how do I get it to edit a different Wikipedia page when I click it? Specifically, it's for WP:MOTD and I want it so that I can click the tab when editing a discussion, and it will automatically add the discussion to a different page. What is the code for creating a new section on a Wikipedia page that is different from the one which I am running the Javascript on? Thanks, Smaug123 ( talk) 22:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes an article will have four or five references in a row. This looks really ugly. Is there a way to fix this cosmetically without actually removing the references themselves? Or, is this not recommended. SharkD Talk 03:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, could someone help me fix the cluebot archiving on User talk:PrincessofLlyr, for some reason it keeps moving content to User talk:PrincessofLlyr2010/January, which makes it ownerless. I thought I fixed it before but it came back. Thanks-- Jac16888 Talk 12:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I am using beta and firefox 3.5.7 - whenever I click the java-applet to insert four tildes nothing happens. Any ideas? ·Maunus·ƛ· 09:12, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
A notice has appeared above my watchlist from the Usability Team advising that experimental features can be turned off at Preferences → Editing tab → Experimental features. I don't seem to have an "Experimental features" tab under Editing. Does anyone know what they mean? SlimVirgin TALK contribs 11:44, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Help would be appreciated from anyone with solid technical expertise at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Citation templates#Israel_is_slow_mainly_because_of_citation_templates. It's about whether adding lots of citation templates to articles slows down editing and loading time. Some editors with technical knowledge are saying templates do cause slow loading; others are saying that's nonsense. Those of us without technical knowledge are left befuddled. Any help clarifying the issues would be much appreciated.
The particular article we're discussing is Israel, a featured article that is hard to edit, in part because it's slow to load (20 seconds to over a minute for some of us). Some editors are saying this is because it contains lots of citation templates (290 citations in all); others are saying no, it's something else. SlimVirgin TALK contribs 17:41, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks for this information. The discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Citation templates#Why this matters. A summary of the technical points is at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Citation templates (technical). Basically, we need both a technical and an editorial solution. I can't comment on the technical and what would be involved, or how it would be achieved. Editorially, I think we need to make people aware that they may be causing problems when they add too many of these templates as inline citations, because they are making articles that contain a lot of them very hard to edit. Per WP:ACCESS, I think we need to do something about it. SlimVirgin TALK contribs 16:25, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
I fouled up recently and started a redirect "Sunburn cell" after running a search, when what I meant to make was Sunburn cell. So I moved it, creating the second redirect... but like other moves, it left a redirect behind, which now I've put up for speedy deletion.
While that works, it seems to me that a redirect should be treated differently from an article. I think when you move one, it shouldn't leave anything behind (it should however warn you of any existing incoming links that would be abandoned, or even cancel the move until they're fixed). That way the move is actually a useful feature distinct from just making a new redirect. It would avoid the need for admin intervention for typo redirects, which is a little embarrassing...
While maybe copying redirects via "move" could be marginally convenient when starting new articles, the move log left behind is probably more confusing than it's worth. Wnt ( talk) 02:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
All the music single articles suddenly have the text begin after the infobox, instead of to the side. I use Firefox 3.6, and it was OK until a few minutes ago. Anyone else seeing it?— Kww( talk) 19:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
In the same general category of "strange things happening": I got banners from the 2009 fundraiser a few times today. Ucucha 21:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
The recently-started steward election makes me wonder: how does someone become a steward? Rather than asking about the election process, I mean: when it's decided that candidate X has sufficient support from the community to become a steward, who presses what buttons to grant the permission level of steward? Nyttend ( talk) 20:58, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there a way to include a link with templates in it?
[[Pâtissier|{{lang|fr|Pâtissier}}]] does not work: Pâtissier
It has to be {{lang|fr|[[Pâtissier]]}}: Pâtissier
174.3.98.236 ( talk) 04:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
<a href="/info/en/?search=P%C3%A2tissier" title="Pâtissier" class="mw-redirect"><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Pâtissier</span></a>
<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr"><a href="/info/en/?search=P%C3%A2tissier" title="Pâtissier" class="mw-redirect">Pâtissier</a></span>
There seem to be some changes to the wiki software which is making the edit box behave in strange ways. (I'm using IE7.) If I select text and right click, the context-sensitive menu that appears is different from the one that previously appeared, and no longer includes the option to copy text to the clipboard. If I want to do that, as I frequently do, I have to hit Ctrl-C. Also, if I copy some text to the clipboard from outside the text box, which happens to be in a large font (say, an article heading), then paste that text into the edit box, the text gets pasted in the same outsize font, whereas previously it would have been pasted in the standard size font. Finally, at the top right of the edit box there's an option to toggle "show contents" and "hide contents". I'm not understanding this functionality at all. It seems to be a way to navigate around an article in mid-edit using the section headers, but if there are no section headers (say, if you're just editing a section or creating a new section) then the toggle still appears but with nothing to show for it either way, which seems fairly daft to me. I saw something on my watchlist page about bugs in the latest release, didn't read it properly, just quickly hid it, but I don't think this is anything to do with that, it looks like intended behaviour. Any pointers gratefully received. -- Richardrj talk email 11:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Edit URL: [12] Notice in this URL how the below comment looks signed by User:Jorge Stolfi who was the last editor to edit the page?
Edit by User:Fram:
:::No, no bot can do this. While many are indeed incorrectly tagged (at the time of tagging, or now), theer are a fair number of articles that use the <ref tag but don't have actual references, just some footnote without any source. Many also have empty references section, but have the reflist or references template in place. Just like no bot should delete pages, no bot should remove the tag either. ~~~~
I assume this has something to do with <ref tag?
Okip (the new and improved Ikip) 12:35, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
~~~~
in an open <ref
where it didn't expand. The text after <ref
in Fram's edit was not displayed. The seen signature at the end of the section
[14] (note the time stamp) was the signature from the preceding edit by Jorge Stolfi and was not caused by the unexpanded ~~~~
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 12:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)( edit conflict):All the text between Fram's unclosed <ref and the /> which was part of Jorge Stolfi's <br/> was hidden, this must have all counted as one humongous tag. pablo hablo. 12:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I use Google Chrome to edit, and I also use the beta version of Wikipedia, which I like better. A few days ago, something changed; now, if I copy text to place into the editing window, it fails to convert it to wikitext; rather, it remains in the same font as the original. This only started a couple days ago; prior to that, it worked fine. For example, if I copy a title of a website into {{cite web}}, it'll show up in the same font and size as it was where I copied it from. I haven't noticed this problem on any other browser, and if I switch out of beta it goes away. Any thoughts? C628 ( talk) 14:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Is anyone else seeing infoboxes doing weird things today? It doesn't appear to be affecting all articles, just most. I noticed it last night, but haven't seen anything about this problem yet (and I so rarely report problems, I cannot find a reporting link anywhere). - Tim1965 ( talk) 14:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I am getting crazy printed PDF output when actually printing a PDF I generated from the Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories article. Check out the hi-res version of this thumbnail. (It is a scan of my printed output. Explanation why it's 2 pages: I had my printer set to output 2 pages per printed sheet.) Windows XP, updated to the latest via Windows Update; Adobe Reader 9.3.0; Firefox 3.5.7. Comet Tuttle ( talk) 18:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I normally use secure.wikimedia but in the last few days, my updates are not committing when I try to save my edits. On ordinary en.wikipedia my updates committed. This is a test. -- Ancheta Wis ( talk) 23:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
If you do a wikipedia search for "one and the same", you get no results. However, there is a redirect at One And The Same since October of 2009. Is this a bug? Smallman12q ( talk) 22:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not really sure if this is the best place to ask, but here goes. This issue has been brought up multiple times at the talk pages of affected templates, but didn't seem to have resulted in solutions. The specific problem at hand is the incompatible font selection by Firefox 3.5.7 (and earlier versions as well, I assume; not sure about other affected browsers) for use with {{ IAST}}. The template transcludes {{ Transl}} for the display of the International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration (which uses Latin script with an extended range of diacritics) and specifies the language tags for the string of text as "sa-Latn". Normally the browser should detect the "Latn" subtag and apply an appropriate font, but due to a bug [15] Firefox fails to do so, and recognises the string of text as Sanskrit according to the "sa" tag, and applies a font incompatible with the range of Latin needed to display the IAST, resulting in an ugly display. The template, via {{ Unicode}}, also specifies the Unicode class to the string, which declares Unicode-compatible fonts for IE6 (using a /**/ comment workaround). I'm not sure if there shouldn't also be a fix for Firefox? It's of course possible to extend the font selections to all browsers, but I don't think that's desirable. Previous discussions exist at Template talk:IAST#Font selection, Template talk:IAST#Font size, Template talk:Transl#Font for translated words and MediaWiki talk:Common.css/Archive 7#Ugly fonts for transliteration templates. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 12:05, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
This is all over the lang
attribute? Does anything even utilize that in some useful way? Couldn't we just remove the attribute and everyone would be happy? Or use web fonts, which
all browsers support now? ¦
Reisio (
talk) 06:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not talking about potential usefulness. Obviously the more specific you can be about every bit of data, the more you can utilize it. The question is whether or not anyone is utilizing it now. ¦ Reisio ( talk) 08:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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