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Re, ProdsNote that anyone is allowed to remove a prod for any reason; if they're removed, the next step is not to restore them but to send the articles to WP:AFD. - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 12:38, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Need to ventI was blocked from editing by Nat, after I reverted someone from removing sourced content from an article 3 times, in spite of the consensus on the talk page and other editors also intervening, and then reporting the POV warrior on the 3rr noticeboard. I am beyond furious at this action, and need to get somebody's objective opinion about it. sorry for taking this to you, but I can barely think right now I am so angry. I shall not be editing for a while, because i do not trust myself to be objective while this upset. And sorry if this seems absurdly overboard and unnecessarily dramatic. Jeffpw 12:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
oh my gosh!you speak esparanto?! :oooooo that is lyk sooooooooo totally cool! like oh my gee like oh em gee like OMG! cos everyone was just lyk t2 me 'omg, u well do italian n spanish' n i was lyk 'yeah for deffo' and then tash the rash was just lyk 'yeah.... fo deffo'... and then everyone was just lyk... 'OMG! eff oh deffo'... and i woz lyk well omging coz it woz quite kwl... but then yeah we well tried learning esparanto (me n geraldine... omg she is actually lyk such a ho sometimes... you know Matt Jacob? well you dont... but appaz, she lyk had a 'freshman session' with him and his bf! I know. I KNOW! lyk tell me about it... but wats funnier is that neither of them no she sessioned it out with either of them... lyk megalolz!)... but yeah anyway... but lyk tash well came in and she/he/it was well just lyk... urgh! @ Geraldine... and i woz just lyk... Oh my bee tash... lyk proper oh my badness! lyk... i no u dont lyk her cos she freshman sessioned with ur bf it in like the last grade, and burnt your work, and cut off your hair when u were sleeping, and also put ur mum in hospo, but lyk you no... im sure she had good intentions... and then ... but she had just put us in like the most orkwud situ evrrrr! so lyk yeah... I just lyk so totally walkd off... and I didnt get to learn any esparanto... it must be lyk so hard to actually learn it then if I couldnt do it (i mean lyk... come on... I was well ahead of Josay Gabriel the Gaybriel in lyk every year and hes well just trying to be the new me and im just lyk NO! i am well 'kay oh oh el ar' than you! (that spells cooler... right?)) so yeah... omg, that is lyk so totally cool... u shud well teach me... or not... cos lyk my wikidopter lyk tries to teach me stuff n its well hard over the intrnet but lyk yeah you no... hey thanks Iamandrewrice 18:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
<-- Which goes not only for teenspeak, IMO, Any damn great chunk of text (on Wikipedia or elsewhere), even if the Meaning Of Life is buried somewhere about line 743, is not worth reading for most people, including myself (Tony awards self Barnstar For Promoting Good Text Layout Before FQ Gets One). Tonywalton | Talk 21:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Does this warrant a block?Hi. I note that you declined an unblock request on New4325 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) a couple of weeks ago. I left a note at User talk:Raymond arritt about this, but he seems so be away. I'd just like to get your opinion on whether they should be again blocked for this completely unprovoked personal attack, another personal attack, and this deliberate removal of transgender related template, stub tag and category from an article. The user doesn't yet appear to have an understanding of Wikipedia:Civility or WP:NPA and appears to have tendencies towards an anti-LGBT crusade. They have since left an uncivil comment on my talk page about the article that they removed the transgender stuff from. -- AliceJMarkham 23:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Does this look like a sock?Amazing coincidences seem to be lingering around the buttock augmentation article just now... One user gets blocked and a brand new user, Ranch coacher ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), suddenly appears to take up the fight! The new user's first 4 edits:
I realise that it's probably a bit soon to be certain, but does anybody else smell a sock here? They have raised a valid point about the stub article not being referenced, but that should only take a few minutes to fix. -- AliceJMarkham 06:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC) Another Paprika?Giove's gone crazy lately. Look at this, here he goes: [1] as IP 87.9.234.27 then [2] as IP 87.2.235.167 and here's a continuation of his obsessive "name of Zadar" edit-warring [3] and [4] as IP 87.2.63.34. Do you think this warrants a block? Please respond on my talk page. Best, -- Gp75motorsports 14:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
<-----If you want to get your feet wet with with less outright hostility and more subtle sniping (kind of like a teenage girls in high school from what I have heard), head over to any Korean/Japanese article (see Korean Cuisine for the current hotspot). spryde | talk 17:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC) ![]()
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Delivered on 20:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC). SatyrBot 21:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC) Just another boring vandalYour definition of "unconstructive" is madness, I tell you, MADNESS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wbbs ( talk • contribs) 18:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC) Prester John reduxIt looks like Prester John ( talk · contribs) is having a field day trying to make a WP:POINT. He's deleting anything that looks un-American, or if it belongs to one of his dissenters, anything negative to his belief system. Do you think it should be brought up at WP:ANI or will reporting it to you suffice? -- WebHamster 19:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Dear Squiggy...![]() I have been burned by adoptees in the past, but you look so sincere, and asked so politely, so I think we can be friends. In spite of what you might hear, I am an excellent judge of character! Jeffpw ( talk) 23:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
University Musical SocietyFisherQueen, UMS is not a school club. It is a not-for-profit arts presenting organization that supports itself from ticket sales, grants, etc. I am, however, a student at the University of Michigan and would like to create an article about UMS because I enjoy attending many of their performances. UMS is internationally recognized organization and is consistently ranked with Carnegie Hall and the Lincoln Center as being the best among presenting arts organizations. I certainly hope you deem these organizations as notable - and they certainly have Wikipedia articles! UniversityMusicalSociety ( talk) 16:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
AwwwYou beat me to it. ☺ Tonywalton Talk 16:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
This discussion makes me want to just give upIt really does. There are so many people commenting who appear to have no concept of Wikipedia rules, or the rules of basic courtesy, or essential reading comprehension skills, that it makes me despair of Wikipedia ever living up to its goals. The whole project is doomed to eventually collapse in on itself in a great shrieking heap of ignorance, meanness, selfishness, and spam, isn't it? - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 20:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Because you deserve it!
Check pleaseHi FisherQueen, could you have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Realiseyourdignity to see if it is usable. And if not, can I keep it on my user page - it doesn't seem accessible from the web. Realiseyourdignity ( talk) 17:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Jerry A. Payne![]() A
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Elizabeth QuarshieElizabeth Quarshie has been edited. Original contributor new to wikipedia, and given welcome, and notes about article. SriMesh | talk 20:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
International Electro-Technical Exhibition - 1891Could you pse have another look now that my translation is done? Mikeo1938 ( talk) 21:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Role of NGO's in development of PakistanThis is to inform you that the Article uploaded from > > user: hassanhn5 > > 'Role of NGO's in development of Pakistan' > > has been deleted by wikipedia considering it as a copyright problem but it > is a rewritten and compiled form of text from verified sources. A paragraph > or a small portion that looks similar content to the reference web sites > doesn't mean that copyrights have been violated. > > This is a request for restoration of that article. > > > I needed that data and it was not availible on wikipedia so when I finally > created my own article I uploaded it for public use...and now its deleted. > It is very discouraging for the editors to have such responses from the > admin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.78.226.118 ( talk • contribs)
UnblockingI was autoblocked. Has this been lifted? Pax Arcane ( talk) 04:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
BlahYou fat dykey cunt! If you would fucking read for once in your life, you would see that I did have a reason for getting unbanned. My ban was being continued unfairly, but you don't listen and just sit on your fat ass and hit the block indefinately button. Not fair, cuntbag. I hope you get hit by a car. I'm just going to keep creating accounts on different IPs Kisses! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.213.17 ( talk • contribs)
HiThanks for your help.
Dlae
I don't think I've ever made a template
I just fort dat it wud b a nice gesture!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolmoose ( talk • contribs)
jeff cageI get it, but don't think for a minute that other radio people don't do this look up Tommy Smith (dj) other "sockpuppet" is only because I forgot previous username —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcage ( talk • contribs)
User:Coolmoose
Extol InternationalExtol International was deleted, but I don't know where to source the article since it's literally a smaller town and there is no historic records on employement.. it's sort of common knowledge in a town of only 15,000 .. .I could technically make up the first list created if you want? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wehberf ( talk • contribs) 17:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Pardon me a momenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Jeffpw&diff=177034564&oldid=177034156 http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Jeffpw&diff=177034156&oldid=177015372 Aaaaarrrrghhhhhhhhhbuggritmillenniunmhandandshrimp aaaaargggghhhhhhhhhhhIamSICKofThis.
Odd that "contribution" #2 wasn't on my talkpage though, though obviously addressed to me, Ah well, Tonywalton Talk 23:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC) Bob in the bottle is a cartoon, so dont know whats the problem Rjransijn ( talk) 10:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
ThanksBest regards to you ( Scott Spector ( talk) 13:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC))
I fear you've been sucked in by Mr Spector... he's a sock of User:Its Pytch.. Hon. But nice to have assumed good faith! The Rambling Man ( talk) 15:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Proposed deletionYou proposed my article Pat Kelly singer songwriter profile for deletion. ok. i am pat kelly's webmaster. the info comes from www.patkelly.eu - my email address is info@patkelly.eu, does this help to leave things as they are otr how am i ever going to get something published about pat kelly here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Pan37 ( talk • contribs)
Thank YouThank you for the welcome Fisher Queen. I have finally figured out how to leave users a message (I hope). Forgive spelling, grammar and syntax errors, English teacher. (the irony: my first edit a typo revision! What would Kate Turabian say?!?) I have long wanted to help Wikipedia as I often found spelling/typo/grammar errors and also had some additions and finally did it. I hope I can help out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduardowiki ( talk • contribs)
Christian07 whatever![]() See Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of France a and Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Claxson: they're all his socks, though the Claxson-France link (except "MrClaxson" as a sock of France a) is a little tentative. His original account, therefore, is User:France a.-- Porcupine ( prickle me! · contribs · status) 18:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I perfectly agree!! I was just trying to keep you informed so I'm less involved in this... ;-) Porcupine ( prickle me! · contribs · status) 18:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanksfor the revert. That ip is a sockpuppet of Mark753. For some reason he really doesn't like me. Thanks again. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 20:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Senator Sam Brownback and HeliocentrismRe: your post at User: Miguel de Servet
Fisher Queen, let me say that I appreciate your civilized tone, with which the tone of User:David Shankbone simply has nothing in common. Anyway, I have already replied to him. You can find my reply (to which I have nothing to add) at his talk-page. With best regards Proposed deletion Monika Krusehello, you suggested to delete the page Monika Kruse - I translated the text from the german and spanish version of wikipedia and added some press text from the No historical backstage - an charity organisation Monika Kruse is doing. she release several albums and is one of Germany´s most known Techno Musician —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clubberberlin ( talk • contribs)
So Links like this one: http://www.berlin030.de/content/view/605/28/ http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=135873320 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clubberberlin ( talk • contribs) 23:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
A question for youI know you are an administrator so that is why I am coming to you. Is it possible to propose a deletion of a page that had already passed a deletion scrutiny earlier? My reasons are different than the last time (I wasn't involved in that discussion). In this case the article in question is a category page, Category:Whistle register singers. The reason why I want to delete this page are several. First, it does not match with the article on the whistle register (which I highly revised recently). I am a vocal pedagogist with a Bachelors in Vocal Music Education and currently in my second year of graduate studies in vocal pedagogy and I assure you that not only am I well informed in this area, I used the very best resources in developing the article on the whistle register. The issue I have with the category whistle register singers is an issue of notability. Unlike what this category suggests, the abbility to sing in the whistle register is quite common, just like the use of falsetto in the male voice is quite common. So really there is no reason to have a category for this ability when most human beings can do it, albight with varying degrees of skill and talent. Certainly all female opera singers and some rare men ( countertenors) vocalise up into the whistle register as part of vocal development. Outside of coloratura soprano roles their is little call for use of the whistle register in opera but it is still a necessary part of developing the soprano voice of any vocal type. Furthermore, there are so many coloratura sopranos in the world, that you could have a category page just for them. Also, this category presents misleading ideas about the whistle register, as there is some overlap between the head register and the whistle register. Not all voices use "whistle tone" between "high C" (C6) and "high F" (F6). Thanks for listening and I would appriciate your advice on how best to proceed. Nrswanson ( talk) 05:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
For a minute...I thought that our talk pages got mixed up. That is the sort of thing that normally happens here! lol. Ariel ♥ Gold 13:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I noticed you had temporarily gone back to the girlie color scheme, and then reverted, how about if I do both things, the new link style, and give you a softer color? If you hate it, you can revert it and I'll just do the links. :) Ariel ♥ Gold 05:12, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
proposed deletion Extol International( Wehberf ( talk) 15:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC))Thank you FisherQueen for the advice on the hangon tag. I have properly sourced the document with independent references to Inc Magazine and the Philadelphia Inquirer, is it possible to remove the deletion tag now? I have pleaded my case here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Extol_International
Fort McCullochI see that you deleted Fort McCulloch as violating CSD G12, which is well and good. But also see that removed links to it elsewhere (specifically List of Registered Historic Places in Oklahoma). Should this be done? I can understand de-linking articles deleted for some of the other speedy criteria, such as A7, but G12 really makes no assumptions about whether or not an article on the topic should exist. In fact the existence of a text to plagiarize may be an indication that the subject is more likely to clear WP:V, not less. Dsmdgold ( talk) 17:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
sorry to bring this back up on you...but i seem to have found another sockpuppet of user:christian07TARDIS about here. put a notice on my page if you need anyting. i may be wrong, i may be right, but i may need to keep a close eye on him-- Teenage wikian ( talk) 13:53, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
This message is redOkies, I too generally list reason for editing after making the change but in
Delhi page's case I thought it was not necessary as both the terms are used to refer to the same region. Santa ClausThe article has been protected due to a content dispute, with (naturally) the wrong version in place. There are two differing POvs on the article, but requests to have the NPOV disputed tag placed on the article have been met with words like "silly" and "ridiculous". I'd appreciate it if you could check out the discussion and add the tag if you think it is warranted. Jeffpw ( talk) 22:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
'ello![]() A rather unpleasant vand edit to your userpage led to a block for someone to whom civility (per their unblock request) appears to mean "not using sick threats involving screwdrivers more than once in every two sentences". You've probably looked at the relevant edit histories. However the bit about filling a sack with swallows did inspire me to create an alternate account, so hi from Sackful of swallows ( talk) I must cut down on those AGF tablets, they're giving me a quite Pollyanna view of the Universe. Sackful of swallows ( talk) 01:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Pol Potbut what if she didn't see it yet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brawlerstatus ( talk • contribs) 16:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
she wouldve thought it was cute... i bet she wouldve said yet if she had seen it. now i have to think of a new nerdy way to propose... maybe something to do with LED lights... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brawlerstatus ( talk • contribs) 17:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
i have a crippling fear of rejection and the internet is the only place i feel truly comfortable. this is a big step. we've been dating for 3 and a half years. we both love wikipedia and use it for everything and i just thought that this would be cute and also allow me to do it on the internet without instant messaging her on AIM. then we could tell everyone a cute story about how we got married.
thats kind of like using AIM though, plus she doesnt have an account she just really likes reading it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brawlerstatus ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
she just called, she saw it. Brawlerstatus ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
she said no... looks like you guys were right. she said if i had asked her in person she probably wouldve said yes, but after thinking about it for awhile, the way i did it was "childish" and "impersonal," and then something about that being a trend with me... guess wikipedia was a bad idea. i dont know what im gonna do now Brawlerstatus ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
GasrdenfenceThanks for reverting lots of Derbyshire articles. Did you know that a wikipedian was so keen to contibute that he stubbed his toe? Victuallers ( talk) 17:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Happy HolidaysOtolemur crassicaudatus and Ezhava edit war blockAnd I bet the page is now stuck at the wrong version. Tonywalton Talk 18:05, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Jill MormonWould you favor a merge to Jack Mormon? We could probably just add a sentence into the Jack article, and then redirect Jill there. Glass Cobra 21:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
That big 'ol scandal![]() ![]() Hi FQ, Do you remember the name of the user who caused a big ol' wikiscandal 'cause they claimed expertise they didn't have? It was huge, I read large swaths of the RFC. I think it was a he, I think he claimed an MA in divinities or Catholic history or something, and I think they were big in Wikipedia, like, involved in the running of the foundation/hired by Jimbo/something else important. I'm having a discussion with an editor who keeps pointing to his credentials, and I'm trying to convince them that this will not be looked well upon by his more experienced peers. Is there an essay somewhere? Thanks, you're the coolest, I've got a huge crush on your user page. Feel free to praise me. WLU ( talk) 14:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
<undent>You guys are weird (and apparently have flying cars). WLU ( talk) 16:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC) Not really, but thanksActually, my tone there was after reading the user's edit history and previous unblock requests. Probably not totally civil, but this is a guy clearly interested in wearing out the community's patience. Daniel Case ( talk) 16:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Teenage WikianI caught sight of this even though I'm on a long Wikibreak right now - I'd suggest that he's a sock rather than the one he listed. The one he listed seems totally different, whereas Teenage's edits have been entirely contacting me, you and one edit to a Doctor Who article. His spelling is similar, and how could he know about Claxson etc since he's only been here for such a short time? I'm still keeping away, though, so it's up to you - I'm thinking a possible WP:RFCU is in order now, but I'll leave the call to you if I may. I'll watch this talkpage for a reply! -- Porcupine
User_talk:Domer48#Remove_blockI have just had a look at this situation and I have to say that I am amazed at the stance to you have taken with regards to this. R. friend was in conflict with Domer48 and then R. friend revert to "his version" and blocks Domer48 without warning or an official report or without anything said to any of the editors on "his side". Surely this is not the correct procedure that an admin in conflict with another editor should take. Domer48 should be unblocked, R. friend should have a sever wrap across the knuckles and then if needed an official report should be filed to determine if any blocks are warranted. I hope you have time to look at this situation with a fresh pair of eyes as it seems pretty unjust to me. regards-- Vintagekits ( talk) 17:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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←I don't quite follow this, Vintagekits. An editor is blocked. They ask for an unblock. It is declined. They ask again. It is declined again (by FQ, this time). In both cases edit warring is cited as the reason for declination. You, agree above that the blocked editor "may have been" edit warring. And now you demand that FQ, who by declining the
Do you have more than 5 friends?I doubt you do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.46.232 ( talk) 21:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I suppose you don't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.46.232 ( talk) 23:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Question/favourHi FQ, could I ask a favour? I'm involved in yet another dispute with another editor, d'you think my comments here, removed here and the last two sections here (barring the 'shit' comments, but I was frustrated) are/were out of line? I ask for my own elucidation, I think I've actually improved on AGF and CIVIL. Um, except for this one 'incident'. I bow before your wisdom. And socks. WLU ( talk) 11:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
ThanksGot our feedback, much appreciated. Looked at your contribs: you work hard here. Enjoy the festive season too. Martin 16:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC) Chad?Umm what is wrong with Chad is also a kid which is currently attending GMHS. He is friens with Glen, Nick, and Ryan and several other people but these were the most notable. Many people see him as quite a attractive kid. He is in the Green Mountain High School Band and is pretty much amazing at music. Recently Chad moved to Colorado from Pepsi Present The Democratic Republic Of The Congo. Upon his arrival he brought new ideas with him to The United States of America; things like a stringed instrument which he later code named the guitar. Chad lived with a kid named Tanner in Congo where they found a guy named Jesus who later they killed to achieve his skills in the guitar. They moved to the USA and met a guy named Christian Rodriguez who said that he learned guitar by killing Herman Li (Dragonforce) and eating his heart. Chad recently converted to zomgithmilian and became a priest at the local church. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yikchad ( talk • contribs) 23:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
With all apologies to
Jello Biafra:
Chad is the -OM Citing on Phil BradyIt is well known in australia that Phil is gay. It is on the bruce and phil website. Please do not remove edits without investigating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philmanskkjaaaw ( talk • contribs) 23:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Unblock requestHey FisherQueen, I EC'd you on the unblock request at User talk:71.101.1.215. I was actually going to grant the request since I believe the IP's contributions today are:
(edits from recent days have been the same sort of thing, most likely a clumsy, slightly misguided attempt to update infoboxes with ages...) Frankly, I think a {{ test1}} warning would have been more appropriate than a 48hr block, editor's youth notwithstanding, especially since the last serious warning was over a month ago. What do you think? — Scien tizzle 00:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
How?"Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as ToadsCastle, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)" How is ToadsCastle an inappropriate article? The TC Man ( talk) 16:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bloddyfriday
Do NOT laugh!I mean it. I know I look like a dork. I was scared to death. Jeffpw ( talk) 18:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Good Jobnice job proding Leafpool. Just so you know if they contest the prod it may fall under recreation of deleted material. I know almost every Warriors article just went through AFD in the last 2 months. Not sure if this character was one of them though. Ridernyc ( talk) 05:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
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CallmebcI've started a discussion about unblocking Callmebc, per a discussion I've had via email with him. There's a thread here which you, as an involved admin, might want some input in. -- Haemo ( talk) 08:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
My Dear Queenie![]() I would like to give you this token, in my appreciation of your wonderful, amazing sense of humor, that has kept me laughing and smiling nearly daily for many months now. I hope that your coming week is filled with joy, laughter, family, friends, good food and happy days. ~*Big Ariel Hugs*~ Ariel ♥ Gold 12:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Message from a bored high school studentHitler My Favorite Idol!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanGerstein ( talk • contribs)
(unindent) You ... you e-mailed a kid's mom!? You're hard-core, FQ! -- Merope 17:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Re: wow
5RhythmsWay back in July you deleated 5Rhythms as not notable [5]. I wonder if you could reconsider, 5 Rhythms has become an international movement with extensive networks of tutors, most major cities in the UK have classes. Its also been the subject of academic research:
Cheers -- Salix alba ( talk) 18:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
If you want a laughHead over to deletion review and read Tyrannical Response Team. It's all a huge conspiracy man. Ridernyc ( talk) 18:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Moved from my user pagePlease I read your message but I do not understand. Why you delete something and it goes red, but I not can do that? What do you mean notability? And how do I find the Talk PAges. You think just because his a Black Man he must advertise himself on the EnCyclopEdia? I want to know what is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DohgonCarbon ( talk • contribs)
Happy HolidaysHappy Holidays
Happy Holidays
Thedjatclubrock :) ( T/ C) Yay! Festive! (and sorry for replying on the card template, instead of my talk page. That was a neat trick I haven't seen before... - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 17:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC) Aha! Here's the conspiracy.I figured out where we did cross paths before: [7]. It was you not objecting to me unblocking someone you haven't blocked. :-) — Coren (talk) 18:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Can you check to see if this works on your PC?This ref was deleted by an editor whom I am in conflict with, with a summary that it is not a working link and must be removed per WP:V. It works fine on my computer, so I am just asking for you (or any lurker) to check it for me. Jeffpw ( talk) 19:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Gropegate![]() regarding Churches of Christto Fisher Queen, re: your comments about my Church of Christ edits: you apparently are not very familiar with what the Church of Christ is about, although you claim to have once been a member. Furthermore, I highly doubt as an English teacher your church history or Bible scholarship is quite at the level of mine. So, I suggest you tend to other articles such as diagraming sentences and leave the church history and Bible edits to people such as me. Merry Christmas :o) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.4.68.108 ( talk) 05:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
UngurulMight want it to be upped to indef as a new user (yes, he did contribute in August last year, but still) trolling and disrupting... Will ( talk) 17:44, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!I'm leaving right now to enjoy Christmas with my family in the finest tradition of American fundamentalist Christianity, complete with carol-singing, prayer, the exchanging of gifts, a feast, and way too many cousins. I won't be back until after the holiday. Merry Christmas to all! - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 21:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! -- Ungurul ( talk) 19:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC) Your userpageI just semi-protected it for twenty-four hours because there's been vandalism from a number of sources recently, and I'd suggest they are associated with each other, so it's quite clear that this user will keep on going regardless of whether the IP/accounts are blocked or not. Feel free to summarily reverse, remove, extend or shortern as you please :) Cheers, Daniel 23:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
AesculigFisherQueen, was your block of Aesculig a typical username block? -- Iamunknown 04:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
WarningYou are also a fagex. You probably play RuneShit in your bedroom you SAD LITTLE CHILD. AND STOP PUTTING THE IMAGES BACK I OWN THOSE ARTICLES YOU SAD SHIT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mertorri ( talk • contribs)
AttacksWhatever suits you... :-) Jauerback ( talk) 16:45, 26 December 2007 (UTC) VandalsIs it just me or are they being really annoying this week? Ridernyc ( talk) 12:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
All I want for Christmas...is for all the editors who need to correct historical wrongs but aren't able to clearly and calmly express themselves in English to go right those wrongs on the Wikis of their native languages. - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 13:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Benazir BhuttoI'm sorry you're so upset. I am too. I just saw she died. All the best, Jeffpw ( talk) 13:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
BhuttoCBS says she is not dead yet. Redmarkviolinist Drop me a line 14:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
It's spelled 'you'why do u revert my edit and call it vandalism? everything i wrote is true Juves ( talk) 15:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
TrojanBy the logic you used, about half of Wikipedia's articles should be deleted. The Trojan suit is definitely notable —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Talking Mac ( talk • contribs)
GetMyScoop.comWhy are you deleting GetMyScoop.com? It is an inmportant website because not only does it allow users to quiclky get a scoop on what's going on around the internet, it enables them to contribute their content as well, all for free. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariuimurme ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Is the criteria for categorizing a new website as a "notable website" the existence of 3 full-length articles from newspapers or magazines? This is a very recent website, and it is notable because I've used it and I think it is important. It is hard for me to believe that such articles will not be written about this website in the comming months. Anyways, here are some links that talk about the website:
Revert of vandalism on your userpageHey, FisherQueen, I took it upon myself to revert a bit of vandalism on your page, and I was about to find the oldid to prove it but someone else got the credit :( Oh well. WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN we need to talk. 15:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Greek translationI saw your post in Greece Wiki project.What phrase do you want to translate; Eagle of Pontus —Preceding comment was added at 15:59, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
quick ?I'm trying to add a file for the Portable Atheist but not sure what I have to change to get the picture for it to be acceptable.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylanpack ( talk • contribs) 23:38, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
questionHow would you react if you were banned from Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.46.232 ( talk • contribs)
I would be horrified! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.46.232 ( talk) 17:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC) FeedbackI'm really working on the "Central Toronto Youth Services" page. This is an organization that has been on the forefront of clinical mental health services in Canada, especially where gay and lesbian youth are concerned, and it really needs to be noted. They've won numerous awards for this work, and most recently the City of Toronto's "Pride Award". Here's my challenge - what need I do to satisfy the note you put on the page? Similar Charities have pages with less information ( Kids Help Phone ) or with fewer (or no) references ( Big Brothers and Sisters of Canada ). OR, was the fundamental issue the tone (because I was working with text from the CTYS website), and if so, have my changes moved the page away from that issue some? I really appreciate your feedback, I'd like to start contributing to Wikipedia more, so this is a great learning opportunity. Matthew Cutler ( talk) 04:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
There has been a lot of national and international work done, especially by their research department. I've still got time, let me see what I can dig up! Thanks! Matthew Cutler ( talk) 13:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC) Warning
Quick Delete ExplanationI'm trying to add a page IP2Location but quick deleted due to no mention of reason. The software has been used by Wikiscanner at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiscanner. In this case, we think it is important to list it here in wiki to give it credits that its deserved. I'm new to wikipedia, please let me know if I've done anything wrong. Comment added by Tgotchi ( talk • contribs)
AfD nomination of Egyptians![]()
Legal ThreatsHi FisherQueen, Im not threatening legal action, I am merely repeating what I have been told by Shaun Wilson who has told me that he would more than likely consider legal options against Wikipedia for the vandalism. What I would like to know in this instance is what I should tell him so I can diffuse the situation based on wiki policy. DC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug church ( talk • contribs) 11:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi FisherQueen, Legal ThreatsHi FisherQueen, I have a background in law and so I can tell you I am not, repeat not making any form of legal threats whatsoever! You are confusing the issue here. Given your comments above I wont work on the Wilson page anymore as you are right, there is a conflict of interest here now I am working along side him for the book. I just found the wiki policy on vandalism so will forward that to him, Im sure that will defuse the situation but do understand I am just trying to find out information on what to do as a simple conversation backed up by the appropriate Wiki policy should be more than adequate to dissolve any unnecessary action from Wilson. Anyhow, have a good New years and thanks for the advice. thanks DC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug church ( talk • contribs) 12:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC) Al KarmaYeah, I was thinking about removing the DB tag, and I do agree that AfD is suitable. The author supplied a source or external link, I'll see if there is any information on the page that I can use to expand the article. Sydney Know It All talk 13:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC) ThanksThanks for deleting the Boffrey Wiegmann article, I was having trouble keeping the CSD tag on there! The creator has now been reported to AIV for vandalism and nonsense. Thanks again! >< Richard Ω6 12 13:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Vanity?Thesydneyknowitall and me were talking about vanity articles and we were wondering... you seem knowledgable (and you are an admin): Is Vanity a reason for Speedy deletion? For example: on Krishna Rajendram article Thesydneyknowitall put db|Vanity., while I'm not sure it's a valid reason (I don't see it on WP:CSD). Can you answer our doubts? Thanks a lot. Peasantwarrior ( talk) 13:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
dropping a line to youHello. I was just dropping a message because I haven't see any posts from you on my talk page for awhile. Be assured that my talk page is a friendly and dynamic environment with discussion on many aspects of the beautiful and fascinating Portuguese language. Just scroll to any section or the end of anyone's comments and type away. :-) learnportuguese ( talk) 21:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
MoldopodoYou blocked for a week Moldopodo ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log); now he's back and he's trolling and attacking us. Ungurul ( talk) 17:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Disruption is equal with vandalism from the administrative blocking point of view. If he will not stop being disruptive he will support the consequences of not editing anymore. Ungurul ( talk) 21:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Freddie MercuryI added the picture a few minutes after the link, please have patience. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdicefan ( talk • contribs)
How should I license tag it then? It comes out of a book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdicefan ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I can't believe it...
Moved from my archiveslovely cookies, thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trooll ( talk • contribs)
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Could use some help on this oneUser:SilkTork is changing the redirect of WP:Plot I changed it back and he quickly reverted it. I have asked for an explanation and have gotten no reply. Changing this redirect affects dozens of discussions dating back almost 3 years. Ridernyc ( talk) 13:22, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
(undent)Looking at the complexity of this with possible confusions with WP:PLOT, and suggestions to redirect to WP:WAF I feel I have stepped into and caused a bit of a stink. WP:Plot appeared to me to be a recent creation - I wasn't aware of WP:PLOT. I'll create an unambiguous film plot shortcut - WP:FilmPlot - and then back quietly away from this, leaving it to wiser and more involved heads to sort out. Sorry for any mess I've caused - and Happy New Year! SilkTork * SilkyTalk 15:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
ZanbyWhy did you delete my page on Zanby before I had an opportunity to add any references to it? User:Tomcat66 g500 —Preceding comment was added at 14:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
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Re, ProdsNote that anyone is allowed to remove a prod for any reason; if they're removed, the next step is not to restore them but to send the articles to WP:AFD. - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 12:38, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Need to ventI was blocked from editing by Nat, after I reverted someone from removing sourced content from an article 3 times, in spite of the consensus on the talk page and other editors also intervening, and then reporting the POV warrior on the 3rr noticeboard. I am beyond furious at this action, and need to get somebody's objective opinion about it. sorry for taking this to you, but I can barely think right now I am so angry. I shall not be editing for a while, because i do not trust myself to be objective while this upset. And sorry if this seems absurdly overboard and unnecessarily dramatic. Jeffpw 12:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
oh my gosh!you speak esparanto?! :oooooo that is lyk sooooooooo totally cool! like oh my gee like oh em gee like OMG! cos everyone was just lyk t2 me 'omg, u well do italian n spanish' n i was lyk 'yeah for deffo' and then tash the rash was just lyk 'yeah.... fo deffo'... and then everyone was just lyk... 'OMG! eff oh deffo'... and i woz lyk well omging coz it woz quite kwl... but then yeah we well tried learning esparanto (me n geraldine... omg she is actually lyk such a ho sometimes... you know Matt Jacob? well you dont... but appaz, she lyk had a 'freshman session' with him and his bf! I know. I KNOW! lyk tell me about it... but wats funnier is that neither of them no she sessioned it out with either of them... lyk megalolz!)... but yeah anyway... but lyk tash well came in and she/he/it was well just lyk... urgh! @ Geraldine... and i woz just lyk... Oh my bee tash... lyk proper oh my badness! lyk... i no u dont lyk her cos she freshman sessioned with ur bf it in like the last grade, and burnt your work, and cut off your hair when u were sleeping, and also put ur mum in hospo, but lyk you no... im sure she had good intentions... and then ... but she had just put us in like the most orkwud situ evrrrr! so lyk yeah... I just lyk so totally walkd off... and I didnt get to learn any esparanto... it must be lyk so hard to actually learn it then if I couldnt do it (i mean lyk... come on... I was well ahead of Josay Gabriel the Gaybriel in lyk every year and hes well just trying to be the new me and im just lyk NO! i am well 'kay oh oh el ar' than you! (that spells cooler... right?)) so yeah... omg, that is lyk so totally cool... u shud well teach me... or not... cos lyk my wikidopter lyk tries to teach me stuff n its well hard over the intrnet but lyk yeah you no... hey thanks Iamandrewrice 18:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
<-- Which goes not only for teenspeak, IMO, Any damn great chunk of text (on Wikipedia or elsewhere), even if the Meaning Of Life is buried somewhere about line 743, is not worth reading for most people, including myself (Tony awards self Barnstar For Promoting Good Text Layout Before FQ Gets One). Tonywalton | Talk 21:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Does this warrant a block?Hi. I note that you declined an unblock request on New4325 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) a couple of weeks ago. I left a note at User talk:Raymond arritt about this, but he seems so be away. I'd just like to get your opinion on whether they should be again blocked for this completely unprovoked personal attack, another personal attack, and this deliberate removal of transgender related template, stub tag and category from an article. The user doesn't yet appear to have an understanding of Wikipedia:Civility or WP:NPA and appears to have tendencies towards an anti-LGBT crusade. They have since left an uncivil comment on my talk page about the article that they removed the transgender stuff from. -- AliceJMarkham 23:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Does this look like a sock?Amazing coincidences seem to be lingering around the buttock augmentation article just now... One user gets blocked and a brand new user, Ranch coacher ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), suddenly appears to take up the fight! The new user's first 4 edits:
I realise that it's probably a bit soon to be certain, but does anybody else smell a sock here? They have raised a valid point about the stub article not being referenced, but that should only take a few minutes to fix. -- AliceJMarkham 06:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC) Another Paprika?Giove's gone crazy lately. Look at this, here he goes: [1] as IP 87.9.234.27 then [2] as IP 87.2.235.167 and here's a continuation of his obsessive "name of Zadar" edit-warring [3] and [4] as IP 87.2.63.34. Do you think this warrants a block? Please respond on my talk page. Best, -- Gp75motorsports 14:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
<-----If you want to get your feet wet with with less outright hostility and more subtle sniping (kind of like a teenage girls in high school from what I have heard), head over to any Korean/Japanese article (see Korean Cuisine for the current hotspot). spryde | talk 17:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC) ![]()
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Delivered on 20:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC). SatyrBot 21:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC) Just another boring vandalYour definition of "unconstructive" is madness, I tell you, MADNESS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wbbs ( talk • contribs) 18:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC) Prester John reduxIt looks like Prester John ( talk · contribs) is having a field day trying to make a WP:POINT. He's deleting anything that looks un-American, or if it belongs to one of his dissenters, anything negative to his belief system. Do you think it should be brought up at WP:ANI or will reporting it to you suffice? -- WebHamster 19:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Dear Squiggy...![]() I have been burned by adoptees in the past, but you look so sincere, and asked so politely, so I think we can be friends. In spite of what you might hear, I am an excellent judge of character! Jeffpw ( talk) 23:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
University Musical SocietyFisherQueen, UMS is not a school club. It is a not-for-profit arts presenting organization that supports itself from ticket sales, grants, etc. I am, however, a student at the University of Michigan and would like to create an article about UMS because I enjoy attending many of their performances. UMS is internationally recognized organization and is consistently ranked with Carnegie Hall and the Lincoln Center as being the best among presenting arts organizations. I certainly hope you deem these organizations as notable - and they certainly have Wikipedia articles! UniversityMusicalSociety ( talk) 16:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
AwwwYou beat me to it. ☺ Tonywalton Talk 16:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
This discussion makes me want to just give upIt really does. There are so many people commenting who appear to have no concept of Wikipedia rules, or the rules of basic courtesy, or essential reading comprehension skills, that it makes me despair of Wikipedia ever living up to its goals. The whole project is doomed to eventually collapse in on itself in a great shrieking heap of ignorance, meanness, selfishness, and spam, isn't it? - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 20:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Because you deserve it!
Check pleaseHi FisherQueen, could you have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Realiseyourdignity to see if it is usable. And if not, can I keep it on my user page - it doesn't seem accessible from the web. Realiseyourdignity ( talk) 17:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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Elizabeth QuarshieElizabeth Quarshie has been edited. Original contributor new to wikipedia, and given welcome, and notes about article. SriMesh | talk 20:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
International Electro-Technical Exhibition - 1891Could you pse have another look now that my translation is done? Mikeo1938 ( talk) 21:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Role of NGO's in development of PakistanThis is to inform you that the Article uploaded from > > user: hassanhn5 > > 'Role of NGO's in development of Pakistan' > > has been deleted by wikipedia considering it as a copyright problem but it > is a rewritten and compiled form of text from verified sources. A paragraph > or a small portion that looks similar content to the reference web sites > doesn't mean that copyrights have been violated. > > This is a request for restoration of that article. > > > I needed that data and it was not availible on wikipedia so when I finally > created my own article I uploaded it for public use...and now its deleted. > It is very discouraging for the editors to have such responses from the > admin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.78.226.118 ( talk • contribs)
UnblockingI was autoblocked. Has this been lifted? Pax Arcane ( talk) 04:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
BlahYou fat dykey cunt! If you would fucking read for once in your life, you would see that I did have a reason for getting unbanned. My ban was being continued unfairly, but you don't listen and just sit on your fat ass and hit the block indefinately button. Not fair, cuntbag. I hope you get hit by a car. I'm just going to keep creating accounts on different IPs Kisses! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.213.17 ( talk • contribs)
HiThanks for your help.
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I don't think I've ever made a template
I just fort dat it wud b a nice gesture!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolmoose ( talk • contribs)
jeff cageI get it, but don't think for a minute that other radio people don't do this look up Tommy Smith (dj) other "sockpuppet" is only because I forgot previous username —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcage ( talk • contribs)
User:Coolmoose
Extol InternationalExtol International was deleted, but I don't know where to source the article since it's literally a smaller town and there is no historic records on employement.. it's sort of common knowledge in a town of only 15,000 .. .I could technically make up the first list created if you want? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wehberf ( talk • contribs) 17:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Pardon me a momenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Jeffpw&diff=177034564&oldid=177034156 http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Jeffpw&diff=177034156&oldid=177015372 Aaaaarrrrghhhhhhhhhbuggritmillenniunmhandandshrimp aaaaargggghhhhhhhhhhhIamSICKofThis.
Odd that "contribution" #2 wasn't on my talkpage though, though obviously addressed to me, Ah well, Tonywalton Talk 23:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC) Bob in the bottle is a cartoon, so dont know whats the problem Rjransijn ( talk) 10:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
ThanksBest regards to you ( Scott Spector ( talk) 13:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC))
I fear you've been sucked in by Mr Spector... he's a sock of User:Its Pytch.. Hon. But nice to have assumed good faith! The Rambling Man ( talk) 15:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Proposed deletionYou proposed my article Pat Kelly singer songwriter profile for deletion. ok. i am pat kelly's webmaster. the info comes from www.patkelly.eu - my email address is info@patkelly.eu, does this help to leave things as they are otr how am i ever going to get something published about pat kelly here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Pan37 ( talk • contribs)
Thank YouThank you for the welcome Fisher Queen. I have finally figured out how to leave users a message (I hope). Forgive spelling, grammar and syntax errors, English teacher. (the irony: my first edit a typo revision! What would Kate Turabian say?!?) I have long wanted to help Wikipedia as I often found spelling/typo/grammar errors and also had some additions and finally did it. I hope I can help out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduardowiki ( talk • contribs)
Christian07 whatever![]() See Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of France a and Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Claxson: they're all his socks, though the Claxson-France link (except "MrClaxson" as a sock of France a) is a little tentative. His original account, therefore, is User:France a.-- Porcupine ( prickle me! · contribs · status) 18:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I perfectly agree!! I was just trying to keep you informed so I'm less involved in this... ;-) Porcupine ( prickle me! · contribs · status) 18:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanksfor the revert. That ip is a sockpuppet of Mark753. For some reason he really doesn't like me. Thanks again. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 20:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Senator Sam Brownback and HeliocentrismRe: your post at User: Miguel de Servet
Fisher Queen, let me say that I appreciate your civilized tone, with which the tone of User:David Shankbone simply has nothing in common. Anyway, I have already replied to him. You can find my reply (to which I have nothing to add) at his talk-page. With best regards Proposed deletion Monika Krusehello, you suggested to delete the page Monika Kruse - I translated the text from the german and spanish version of wikipedia and added some press text from the No historical backstage - an charity organisation Monika Kruse is doing. she release several albums and is one of Germany´s most known Techno Musician —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clubberberlin ( talk • contribs)
So Links like this one: http://www.berlin030.de/content/view/605/28/ http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=135873320 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clubberberlin ( talk • contribs) 23:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
A question for youI know you are an administrator so that is why I am coming to you. Is it possible to propose a deletion of a page that had already passed a deletion scrutiny earlier? My reasons are different than the last time (I wasn't involved in that discussion). In this case the article in question is a category page, Category:Whistle register singers. The reason why I want to delete this page are several. First, it does not match with the article on the whistle register (which I highly revised recently). I am a vocal pedagogist with a Bachelors in Vocal Music Education and currently in my second year of graduate studies in vocal pedagogy and I assure you that not only am I well informed in this area, I used the very best resources in developing the article on the whistle register. The issue I have with the category whistle register singers is an issue of notability. Unlike what this category suggests, the abbility to sing in the whistle register is quite common, just like the use of falsetto in the male voice is quite common. So really there is no reason to have a category for this ability when most human beings can do it, albight with varying degrees of skill and talent. Certainly all female opera singers and some rare men ( countertenors) vocalise up into the whistle register as part of vocal development. Outside of coloratura soprano roles their is little call for use of the whistle register in opera but it is still a necessary part of developing the soprano voice of any vocal type. Furthermore, there are so many coloratura sopranos in the world, that you could have a category page just for them. Also, this category presents misleading ideas about the whistle register, as there is some overlap between the head register and the whistle register. Not all voices use "whistle tone" between "high C" (C6) and "high F" (F6). Thanks for listening and I would appriciate your advice on how best to proceed. Nrswanson ( talk) 05:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
For a minute...I thought that our talk pages got mixed up. That is the sort of thing that normally happens here! lol. Ariel ♥ Gold 13:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I noticed you had temporarily gone back to the girlie color scheme, and then reverted, how about if I do both things, the new link style, and give you a softer color? If you hate it, you can revert it and I'll just do the links. :) Ariel ♥ Gold 05:12, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
proposed deletion Extol International( Wehberf ( talk) 15:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC))Thank you FisherQueen for the advice on the hangon tag. I have properly sourced the document with independent references to Inc Magazine and the Philadelphia Inquirer, is it possible to remove the deletion tag now? I have pleaded my case here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Extol_International
Fort McCullochI see that you deleted Fort McCulloch as violating CSD G12, which is well and good. But also see that removed links to it elsewhere (specifically List of Registered Historic Places in Oklahoma). Should this be done? I can understand de-linking articles deleted for some of the other speedy criteria, such as A7, but G12 really makes no assumptions about whether or not an article on the topic should exist. In fact the existence of a text to plagiarize may be an indication that the subject is more likely to clear WP:V, not less. Dsmdgold ( talk) 17:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
sorry to bring this back up on you...but i seem to have found another sockpuppet of user:christian07TARDIS about here. put a notice on my page if you need anyting. i may be wrong, i may be right, but i may need to keep a close eye on him-- Teenage wikian ( talk) 13:53, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
This message is redOkies, I too generally list reason for editing after making the change but in
Delhi page's case I thought it was not necessary as both the terms are used to refer to the same region. Santa ClausThe article has been protected due to a content dispute, with (naturally) the wrong version in place. There are two differing POvs on the article, but requests to have the NPOV disputed tag placed on the article have been met with words like "silly" and "ridiculous". I'd appreciate it if you could check out the discussion and add the tag if you think it is warranted. Jeffpw ( talk) 22:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
'ello![]() A rather unpleasant vand edit to your userpage led to a block for someone to whom civility (per their unblock request) appears to mean "not using sick threats involving screwdrivers more than once in every two sentences". You've probably looked at the relevant edit histories. However the bit about filling a sack with swallows did inspire me to create an alternate account, so hi from Sackful of swallows ( talk) I must cut down on those AGF tablets, they're giving me a quite Pollyanna view of the Universe. Sackful of swallows ( talk) 01:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Pol Potbut what if she didn't see it yet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brawlerstatus ( talk • contribs) 16:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
she wouldve thought it was cute... i bet she wouldve said yet if she had seen it. now i have to think of a new nerdy way to propose... maybe something to do with LED lights... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brawlerstatus ( talk • contribs) 17:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
i have a crippling fear of rejection and the internet is the only place i feel truly comfortable. this is a big step. we've been dating for 3 and a half years. we both love wikipedia and use it for everything and i just thought that this would be cute and also allow me to do it on the internet without instant messaging her on AIM. then we could tell everyone a cute story about how we got married.
thats kind of like using AIM though, plus she doesnt have an account she just really likes reading it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brawlerstatus ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
she just called, she saw it. Brawlerstatus ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
she said no... looks like you guys were right. she said if i had asked her in person she probably wouldve said yes, but after thinking about it for awhile, the way i did it was "childish" and "impersonal," and then something about that being a trend with me... guess wikipedia was a bad idea. i dont know what im gonna do now Brawlerstatus ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
GasrdenfenceThanks for reverting lots of Derbyshire articles. Did you know that a wikipedian was so keen to contibute that he stubbed his toe? Victuallers ( talk) 17:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Happy HolidaysOtolemur crassicaudatus and Ezhava edit war blockAnd I bet the page is now stuck at the wrong version. Tonywalton Talk 18:05, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Jill MormonWould you favor a merge to Jack Mormon? We could probably just add a sentence into the Jack article, and then redirect Jill there. Glass Cobra 21:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
That big 'ol scandal![]() ![]() Hi FQ, Do you remember the name of the user who caused a big ol' wikiscandal 'cause they claimed expertise they didn't have? It was huge, I read large swaths of the RFC. I think it was a he, I think he claimed an MA in divinities or Catholic history or something, and I think they were big in Wikipedia, like, involved in the running of the foundation/hired by Jimbo/something else important. I'm having a discussion with an editor who keeps pointing to his credentials, and I'm trying to convince them that this will not be looked well upon by his more experienced peers. Is there an essay somewhere? Thanks, you're the coolest, I've got a huge crush on your user page. Feel free to praise me. WLU ( talk) 14:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
<undent>You guys are weird (and apparently have flying cars). WLU ( talk) 16:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC) Not really, but thanksActually, my tone there was after reading the user's edit history and previous unblock requests. Probably not totally civil, but this is a guy clearly interested in wearing out the community's patience. Daniel Case ( talk) 16:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Teenage WikianI caught sight of this even though I'm on a long Wikibreak right now - I'd suggest that he's a sock rather than the one he listed. The one he listed seems totally different, whereas Teenage's edits have been entirely contacting me, you and one edit to a Doctor Who article. His spelling is similar, and how could he know about Claxson etc since he's only been here for such a short time? I'm still keeping away, though, so it's up to you - I'm thinking a possible WP:RFCU is in order now, but I'll leave the call to you if I may. I'll watch this talkpage for a reply! -- Porcupine
User_talk:Domer48#Remove_blockI have just had a look at this situation and I have to say that I am amazed at the stance to you have taken with regards to this. R. friend was in conflict with Domer48 and then R. friend revert to "his version" and blocks Domer48 without warning or an official report or without anything said to any of the editors on "his side". Surely this is not the correct procedure that an admin in conflict with another editor should take. Domer48 should be unblocked, R. friend should have a sever wrap across the knuckles and then if needed an official report should be filed to determine if any blocks are warranted. I hope you have time to look at this situation with a fresh pair of eyes as it seems pretty unjust to me. regards-- Vintagekits ( talk) 17:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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←I don't quite follow this, Vintagekits. An editor is blocked. They ask for an unblock. It is declined. They ask again. It is declined again (by FQ, this time). In both cases edit warring is cited as the reason for declination. You, agree above that the blocked editor "may have been" edit warring. And now you demand that FQ, who by declining the
Do you have more than 5 friends?I doubt you do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.46.232 ( talk) 21:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I suppose you don't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.46.232 ( talk) 23:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Question/favourHi FQ, could I ask a favour? I'm involved in yet another dispute with another editor, d'you think my comments here, removed here and the last two sections here (barring the 'shit' comments, but I was frustrated) are/were out of line? I ask for my own elucidation, I think I've actually improved on AGF and CIVIL. Um, except for this one 'incident'. I bow before your wisdom. And socks. WLU ( talk) 11:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
ThanksGot our feedback, much appreciated. Looked at your contribs: you work hard here. Enjoy the festive season too. Martin 16:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC) Chad?Umm what is wrong with Chad is also a kid which is currently attending GMHS. He is friens with Glen, Nick, and Ryan and several other people but these were the most notable. Many people see him as quite a attractive kid. He is in the Green Mountain High School Band and is pretty much amazing at music. Recently Chad moved to Colorado from Pepsi Present The Democratic Republic Of The Congo. Upon his arrival he brought new ideas with him to The United States of America; things like a stringed instrument which he later code named the guitar. Chad lived with a kid named Tanner in Congo where they found a guy named Jesus who later they killed to achieve his skills in the guitar. They moved to the USA and met a guy named Christian Rodriguez who said that he learned guitar by killing Herman Li (Dragonforce) and eating his heart. Chad recently converted to zomgithmilian and became a priest at the local church. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yikchad ( talk • contribs) 23:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
With all apologies to
Jello Biafra:
Chad is the -OM Citing on Phil BradyIt is well known in australia that Phil is gay. It is on the bruce and phil website. Please do not remove edits without investigating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philmanskkjaaaw ( talk • contribs) 23:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Unblock requestHey FisherQueen, I EC'd you on the unblock request at User talk:71.101.1.215. I was actually going to grant the request since I believe the IP's contributions today are:
(edits from recent days have been the same sort of thing, most likely a clumsy, slightly misguided attempt to update infoboxes with ages...) Frankly, I think a {{ test1}} warning would have been more appropriate than a 48hr block, editor's youth notwithstanding, especially since the last serious warning was over a month ago. What do you think? — Scien tizzle 00:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
How?"Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as ToadsCastle, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)" How is ToadsCastle an inappropriate article? The TC Man ( talk) 16:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bloddyfriday
Do NOT laugh!I mean it. I know I look like a dork. I was scared to death. Jeffpw ( talk) 18:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Good Jobnice job proding Leafpool. Just so you know if they contest the prod it may fall under recreation of deleted material. I know almost every Warriors article just went through AFD in the last 2 months. Not sure if this character was one of them though. Ridernyc ( talk) 05:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
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CallmebcI've started a discussion about unblocking Callmebc, per a discussion I've had via email with him. There's a thread here which you, as an involved admin, might want some input in. -- Haemo ( talk) 08:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
My Dear Queenie![]() I would like to give you this token, in my appreciation of your wonderful, amazing sense of humor, that has kept me laughing and smiling nearly daily for many months now. I hope that your coming week is filled with joy, laughter, family, friends, good food and happy days. ~*Big Ariel Hugs*~ Ariel ♥ Gold 12:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Message from a bored high school studentHitler My Favorite Idol!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanGerstein ( talk • contribs)
(unindent) You ... you e-mailed a kid's mom!? You're hard-core, FQ! -- Merope 17:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Re: wow
5RhythmsWay back in July you deleated 5Rhythms as not notable [5]. I wonder if you could reconsider, 5 Rhythms has become an international movement with extensive networks of tutors, most major cities in the UK have classes. Its also been the subject of academic research:
Cheers -- Salix alba ( talk) 18:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
If you want a laughHead over to deletion review and read Tyrannical Response Team. It's all a huge conspiracy man. Ridernyc ( talk) 18:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Moved from my user pagePlease I read your message but I do not understand. Why you delete something and it goes red, but I not can do that? What do you mean notability? And how do I find the Talk PAges. You think just because his a Black Man he must advertise himself on the EnCyclopEdia? I want to know what is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DohgonCarbon ( talk • contribs)
Happy HolidaysHappy Holidays
Happy Holidays
Thedjatclubrock :) ( T/ C) Yay! Festive! (and sorry for replying on the card template, instead of my talk page. That was a neat trick I haven't seen before... - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 17:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC) Aha! Here's the conspiracy.I figured out where we did cross paths before: [7]. It was you not objecting to me unblocking someone you haven't blocked. :-) — Coren (talk) 18:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Can you check to see if this works on your PC?This ref was deleted by an editor whom I am in conflict with, with a summary that it is not a working link and must be removed per WP:V. It works fine on my computer, so I am just asking for you (or any lurker) to check it for me. Jeffpw ( talk) 19:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Gropegate![]() regarding Churches of Christto Fisher Queen, re: your comments about my Church of Christ edits: you apparently are not very familiar with what the Church of Christ is about, although you claim to have once been a member. Furthermore, I highly doubt as an English teacher your church history or Bible scholarship is quite at the level of mine. So, I suggest you tend to other articles such as diagraming sentences and leave the church history and Bible edits to people such as me. Merry Christmas :o) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.4.68.108 ( talk) 05:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
UngurulMight want it to be upped to indef as a new user (yes, he did contribute in August last year, but still) trolling and disrupting... Will ( talk) 17:44, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!I'm leaving right now to enjoy Christmas with my family in the finest tradition of American fundamentalist Christianity, complete with carol-singing, prayer, the exchanging of gifts, a feast, and way too many cousins. I won't be back until after the holiday. Merry Christmas to all! - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 21:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! -- Ungurul ( talk) 19:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC) Your userpageI just semi-protected it for twenty-four hours because there's been vandalism from a number of sources recently, and I'd suggest they are associated with each other, so it's quite clear that this user will keep on going regardless of whether the IP/accounts are blocked or not. Feel free to summarily reverse, remove, extend or shortern as you please :) Cheers, Daniel 23:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
AesculigFisherQueen, was your block of Aesculig a typical username block? -- Iamunknown 04:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
WarningYou are also a fagex. You probably play RuneShit in your bedroom you SAD LITTLE CHILD. AND STOP PUTTING THE IMAGES BACK I OWN THOSE ARTICLES YOU SAD SHIT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mertorri ( talk • contribs)
AttacksWhatever suits you... :-) Jauerback ( talk) 16:45, 26 December 2007 (UTC) VandalsIs it just me or are they being really annoying this week? Ridernyc ( talk) 12:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
All I want for Christmas...is for all the editors who need to correct historical wrongs but aren't able to clearly and calmly express themselves in English to go right those wrongs on the Wikis of their native languages. - FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 13:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Benazir BhuttoI'm sorry you're so upset. I am too. I just saw she died. All the best, Jeffpw ( talk) 13:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
BhuttoCBS says she is not dead yet. Redmarkviolinist Drop me a line 14:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
It's spelled 'you'why do u revert my edit and call it vandalism? everything i wrote is true Juves ( talk) 15:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
TrojanBy the logic you used, about half of Wikipedia's articles should be deleted. The Trojan suit is definitely notable —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Talking Mac ( talk • contribs)
GetMyScoop.comWhy are you deleting GetMyScoop.com? It is an inmportant website because not only does it allow users to quiclky get a scoop on what's going on around the internet, it enables them to contribute their content as well, all for free. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariuimurme ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Is the criteria for categorizing a new website as a "notable website" the existence of 3 full-length articles from newspapers or magazines? This is a very recent website, and it is notable because I've used it and I think it is important. It is hard for me to believe that such articles will not be written about this website in the comming months. Anyways, here are some links that talk about the website:
Revert of vandalism on your userpageHey, FisherQueen, I took it upon myself to revert a bit of vandalism on your page, and I was about to find the oldid to prove it but someone else got the credit :( Oh well. WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN we need to talk. 15:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Greek translationI saw your post in Greece Wiki project.What phrase do you want to translate; Eagle of Pontus —Preceding comment was added at 15:59, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
quick ?I'm trying to add a file for the Portable Atheist but not sure what I have to change to get the picture for it to be acceptable.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylanpack ( talk • contribs) 23:38, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
questionHow would you react if you were banned from Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.46.232 ( talk • contribs)
I would be horrified! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.46.232 ( talk) 17:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC) FeedbackI'm really working on the "Central Toronto Youth Services" page. This is an organization that has been on the forefront of clinical mental health services in Canada, especially where gay and lesbian youth are concerned, and it really needs to be noted. They've won numerous awards for this work, and most recently the City of Toronto's "Pride Award". Here's my challenge - what need I do to satisfy the note you put on the page? Similar Charities have pages with less information ( Kids Help Phone ) or with fewer (or no) references ( Big Brothers and Sisters of Canada ). OR, was the fundamental issue the tone (because I was working with text from the CTYS website), and if so, have my changes moved the page away from that issue some? I really appreciate your feedback, I'd like to start contributing to Wikipedia more, so this is a great learning opportunity. Matthew Cutler ( talk) 04:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
There has been a lot of national and international work done, especially by their research department. I've still got time, let me see what I can dig up! Thanks! Matthew Cutler ( talk) 13:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC) Warning
Quick Delete ExplanationI'm trying to add a page IP2Location but quick deleted due to no mention of reason. The software has been used by Wikiscanner at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiscanner. In this case, we think it is important to list it here in wiki to give it credits that its deserved. I'm new to wikipedia, please let me know if I've done anything wrong. Comment added by Tgotchi ( talk • contribs)
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Legal ThreatsHi FisherQueen, Im not threatening legal action, I am merely repeating what I have been told by Shaun Wilson who has told me that he would more than likely consider legal options against Wikipedia for the vandalism. What I would like to know in this instance is what I should tell him so I can diffuse the situation based on wiki policy. DC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug church ( talk • contribs) 11:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi FisherQueen, Legal ThreatsHi FisherQueen, I have a background in law and so I can tell you I am not, repeat not making any form of legal threats whatsoever! You are confusing the issue here. Given your comments above I wont work on the Wilson page anymore as you are right, there is a conflict of interest here now I am working along side him for the book. I just found the wiki policy on vandalism so will forward that to him, Im sure that will defuse the situation but do understand I am just trying to find out information on what to do as a simple conversation backed up by the appropriate Wiki policy should be more than adequate to dissolve any unnecessary action from Wilson. Anyhow, have a good New years and thanks for the advice. thanks DC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug church ( talk • contribs) 12:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC) Al KarmaYeah, I was thinking about removing the DB tag, and I do agree that AfD is suitable. The author supplied a source or external link, I'll see if there is any information on the page that I can use to expand the article. Sydney Know It All talk 13:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC) ThanksThanks for deleting the Boffrey Wiegmann article, I was having trouble keeping the CSD tag on there! The creator has now been reported to AIV for vandalism and nonsense. Thanks again! >< Richard Ω6 12 13:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Vanity?Thesydneyknowitall and me were talking about vanity articles and we were wondering... you seem knowledgable (and you are an admin): Is Vanity a reason for Speedy deletion? For example: on Krishna Rajendram article Thesydneyknowitall put db|Vanity., while I'm not sure it's a valid reason (I don't see it on WP:CSD). Can you answer our doubts? Thanks a lot. Peasantwarrior ( talk) 13:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
dropping a line to youHello. I was just dropping a message because I haven't see any posts from you on my talk page for awhile. Be assured that my talk page is a friendly and dynamic environment with discussion on many aspects of the beautiful and fascinating Portuguese language. Just scroll to any section or the end of anyone's comments and type away. :-) learnportuguese ( talk) 21:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
MoldopodoYou blocked for a week Moldopodo ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log); now he's back and he's trolling and attacking us. Ungurul ( talk) 17:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Disruption is equal with vandalism from the administrative blocking point of view. If he will not stop being disruptive he will support the consequences of not editing anymore. Ungurul ( talk) 21:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Freddie MercuryI added the picture a few minutes after the link, please have patience. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdicefan ( talk • contribs)
How should I license tag it then? It comes out of a book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdicefan ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I can't believe it...
Moved from my archiveslovely cookies, thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trooll ( talk • contribs)
An User talk:69.233.198.234
Could use some help on this oneUser:SilkTork is changing the redirect of WP:Plot I changed it back and he quickly reverted it. I have asked for an explanation and have gotten no reply. Changing this redirect affects dozens of discussions dating back almost 3 years. Ridernyc ( talk) 13:22, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
(undent)Looking at the complexity of this with possible confusions with WP:PLOT, and suggestions to redirect to WP:WAF I feel I have stepped into and caused a bit of a stink. WP:Plot appeared to me to be a recent creation - I wasn't aware of WP:PLOT. I'll create an unambiguous film plot shortcut - WP:FilmPlot - and then back quietly away from this, leaving it to wiser and more involved heads to sort out. Sorry for any mess I've caused - and Happy New Year! SilkTork * SilkyTalk 15:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
ZanbyWhy did you delete my page on Zanby before I had an opportunity to add any references to it? User:Tomcat66 g500 —Preceding comment was added at 14:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Juan Serrano (Flamenco)i put sorces —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.136.14.151 ( talk • contribs)
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