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Just because you put the portals on the template doesn't mean they'll get deleted from the pages. Maybe they should get deleted from the pages, but I don't think we should clutter this up much more. Maybe if they can be placed somewhere less intrusive (that doesn't make like 20 new line breaks) then it could work. - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 18:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Things to be considered for this template:
- Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 21:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Okay, firstly, the AfD did accept the template in its current form. If someone were to find this unacceptable, then that's what talk pages are for.
Going back to the original discussion about creating this - the purpose is to provide a portal that collaborates all the "by country" energy articles. Rename it, add another bar specifying nuclear power, I don't care. The point is to have them all together here.
Nuclear doesn't have official status as a renewable or non-renewable, for any of you who care about this point, and I don't want to see anyone positioning Wikipedia on this point. - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Whether the universe is sustainable forever is not very important. My horizon is the next billion years. Long before then we will have expanded far out into the galaxy and possibly to other galaxies. As we expand we will use both renewable and non-renewable energy sources. It's helpful to remember which is which. 199.125.109.98 03:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
199.125.109.108 requested that we break this up by source.
I came up with the merge thing from this comment:
It is not workable to create one giant template that includes coal by country, oil by country, solar by country, etc., etc., and downright silly to stuff nuclear into the renewable template, which as it grows will be split into two separate templates anyway, one for only solar and the other for only wind.
But fine, whatever, we won't propose three separate templates then. But then why two? - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 20:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I only call things silly that are silly. I am not calling you or anyone else silly. Love the sinner, hate the sin, remember? The template was already flagged as too big, but that has been taken care of by splitting it back to renewable and nuclear, like it was before. You might want to refer to [2]for a reference on whether nuclear is renewable or not. My apology in advance that it is a kids page, which I know you are not. 199.125.109.134 00:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
My intention to create an energy "by country" template was made clear before you edited any of this. I can show what other kinds of templates are being used, and you'll find the typical size is very well in line with what this would be after all the potential articles are incorporated. For a quick example, Template:Global warming.
I'm trying to drive this back on course, I hope you can still find some way to WP:Assume good faith. - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 05:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Template:Nuclear technology Template:Oklahoma Template:US South Template:USPoliticalDivisions - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 20:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Can't you put it in both templates and then deal with the controversy in the article? A template is only an easy way of finding things - not an incontrovertable statement. Fainites barley 11:55, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
The template is getting out of hand -- way too large now -- List of renewable energy topics by country already covers a lot of this as does the relevant categories and the very full See also sections which most of these articles have. If you wish to expand the Template please discuss first. Johnfos ( talk) 23:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
As you can see from the extensive discussion above, there has been a lot of Talk about this Template, including a deletion discussion. The compromise position was to keep the Template, but keep it short, given that it duplicates info provided elsewhere. If we don't keep it manageable, then I would like to see the Template deleted... Johnfos ( talk) 23:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I've just had a look at your latest "small" expansion. Sorry, but the Template is still too much. I guess it will need to be nominated for deletion. Johnfos ( talk) 00:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, that's fine, but there will be some articles, no longer listed in the Template, where the Template will need to be removed from. I think the thing to do is to make sure that List of renewable energy topics by country is in the See also section of these articles... Johnfos ( talk) 00:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Just discovered this template and it simply doesn`t include what i expect. Links to RE in country articles are missing as well. I understand demand to keep template in reasonable size, but i think that will be better to redesign template than "randomly" exclude some topics. So here is my new design proposal, country (not source) based ( including "letter subproposal", that may save space, but is less lucid).
-- 78.108.106.253 ( talk) 18:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Currently this navbar does not include the most obvious Category:Renewable energy by country articles, it duplicates Template:Wind power by country and Template:Solar power by country, while omitting hydro. I suggest replacing it with general RE articles per the example below. -- ELEKHH T 21:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
The UK needs to be moved from the European Union section of Europe to the "Other" section. I've not got the permissions to do so yet, otherwise I'd do it myself Thegeographer14 ( talk) 10:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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Just because you put the portals on the template doesn't mean they'll get deleted from the pages. Maybe they should get deleted from the pages, but I don't think we should clutter this up much more. Maybe if they can be placed somewhere less intrusive (that doesn't make like 20 new line breaks) then it could work. - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 18:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Things to be considered for this template:
- Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 21:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Okay, firstly, the AfD did accept the template in its current form. If someone were to find this unacceptable, then that's what talk pages are for.
Going back to the original discussion about creating this - the purpose is to provide a portal that collaborates all the "by country" energy articles. Rename it, add another bar specifying nuclear power, I don't care. The point is to have them all together here.
Nuclear doesn't have official status as a renewable or non-renewable, for any of you who care about this point, and I don't want to see anyone positioning Wikipedia on this point. - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Whether the universe is sustainable forever is not very important. My horizon is the next billion years. Long before then we will have expanded far out into the galaxy and possibly to other galaxies. As we expand we will use both renewable and non-renewable energy sources. It's helpful to remember which is which. 199.125.109.98 03:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
199.125.109.108 requested that we break this up by source.
I came up with the merge thing from this comment:
It is not workable to create one giant template that includes coal by country, oil by country, solar by country, etc., etc., and downright silly to stuff nuclear into the renewable template, which as it grows will be split into two separate templates anyway, one for only solar and the other for only wind.
But fine, whatever, we won't propose three separate templates then. But then why two? - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 20:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I only call things silly that are silly. I am not calling you or anyone else silly. Love the sinner, hate the sin, remember? The template was already flagged as too big, but that has been taken care of by splitting it back to renewable and nuclear, like it was before. You might want to refer to [2]for a reference on whether nuclear is renewable or not. My apology in advance that it is a kids page, which I know you are not. 199.125.109.134 00:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
My intention to create an energy "by country" template was made clear before you edited any of this. I can show what other kinds of templates are being used, and you'll find the typical size is very well in line with what this would be after all the potential articles are incorporated. For a quick example, Template:Global warming.
I'm trying to drive this back on course, I hope you can still find some way to WP:Assume good faith. - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 05:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Template:Nuclear technology Template:Oklahoma Template:US South Template:USPoliticalDivisions - Theanphibian ( talk • contribs) 20:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Can't you put it in both templates and then deal with the controversy in the article? A template is only an easy way of finding things - not an incontrovertable statement. Fainites barley 11:55, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
The template is getting out of hand -- way too large now -- List of renewable energy topics by country already covers a lot of this as does the relevant categories and the very full See also sections which most of these articles have. If you wish to expand the Template please discuss first. Johnfos ( talk) 23:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
As you can see from the extensive discussion above, there has been a lot of Talk about this Template, including a deletion discussion. The compromise position was to keep the Template, but keep it short, given that it duplicates info provided elsewhere. If we don't keep it manageable, then I would like to see the Template deleted... Johnfos ( talk) 23:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I've just had a look at your latest "small" expansion. Sorry, but the Template is still too much. I guess it will need to be nominated for deletion. Johnfos ( talk) 00:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, that's fine, but there will be some articles, no longer listed in the Template, where the Template will need to be removed from. I think the thing to do is to make sure that List of renewable energy topics by country is in the See also section of these articles... Johnfos ( talk) 00:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Just discovered this template and it simply doesn`t include what i expect. Links to RE in country articles are missing as well. I understand demand to keep template in reasonable size, but i think that will be better to redesign template than "randomly" exclude some topics. So here is my new design proposal, country (not source) based ( including "letter subproposal", that may save space, but is less lucid).
-- 78.108.106.253 ( talk) 18:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Currently this navbar does not include the most obvious Category:Renewable energy by country articles, it duplicates Template:Wind power by country and Template:Solar power by country, while omitting hydro. I suggest replacing it with general RE articles per the example below. -- ELEKHH T 21:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
The UK needs to be moved from the European Union section of Europe to the "Other" section. I've not got the permissions to do so yet, otherwise I'd do it myself Thegeographer14 ( talk) 10:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)