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Every time I've used this template or edited an article that had it, the one parameter that I always run into trouble with is "associated acts". Recently, I've been going through artists' articles and adding or removing associated acts so that they meet the requirements laid out in the parameter's description. However, across all of these articles, there seems to be a disagreement about what qualifies an artist or group to be worthy of being included as an associated act for another act.
On the article for Nicki Minaj, it seems as though there's an unspoken agreement among editors that only acts who have had at least three collaborations with Minaj should be included in her infobox. Every time it's been suggested that this is the case (such as here and here) it's never been contested. I didn't really understand why until I edited Trippie Redd's infobox and realized just how cluttered it became after I added each and every one of his two-time collaborators. Meanwhile, certain acts, such as Drake and Björk, have producers listed as associated acts when they've produced one or more of their albums in its entirety. Jazmine Sullivan is listed as an associated act for Frank Ocean because she contributed additional vocals to four songs from Endless and to " Solo", but on none of those songs is she credited as a featured artist.
I've also noticed that, while the description cautions against adding the solo careers of the members of a group as associated acts for that group and adding groups with one member in common, it says nothing about adding the individual members of a group to each other's associated acts. I've run into this a number of times, including on Caroline Polachek and Riki Lindhome's pages. Speaking of Caroline Polachek, her infobox currently has A.G. Cook and Danny L Harle, but both of them only qualify if you include remixes as collaborations. The template also states that the musicians or bands listed as associated acts for any other act must be notable and significant to an act's career, but does this mean that they have to meet GNG requirements? On Glaive's page, I added four acts with whom he has collaborated multiple times, one of whom (Ericdoa) he made a collaborative EP with, but none of them have pages of their own, and I'm doubtful that some of them would pass GNG. Also, many of the (seemingly fruitless) discussions about associated acts on Ariana Grande's talk page (such as here, here, here, and here) revolve around whether or not two acts having multiple collaborations is enough for them to be considered significant for each other's careers, which made me wonder if editors should be allowed to contest the inclusion or exclusion of an associated act, even if it meets one or more of the criteria. When I added City Girls to Megan Thee Stallion's infobox last year, it was reverted on the basis that, on one of the two songs they appeared on together, they were both featured artists.
This has left me with an endless number of questions, so I wanted to open this up to editors:
Even if some of these may seem like obvious "yes" or "no" answers, I mainly want to reach a consensus on these things so that they can be included in the template's documentation and hopefully make things easier for editors like myself and others who have had trouble determining which artists can or cannot be included as associated acts. Thanks! benǝʇᴉɯ 04:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Should the associated acts parameter be removed from this infobox? Binksternet ( talk) 18:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
|current_member_of=
and |past_member_of=
. ―
Jochem van Hees (
talk) 17:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Honestly this field doesn't seem to list "acts that were really influential to the artist or band's career", but rather guest vocalists that sang more than three times with them.
FilBenLeafBoy ( Let's Talk!) 12:04, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
member_of
. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 13:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)This
edit request to
Template:Infobox musical artist has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
See
Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 April 15#Template:Infobox album/genre/Sol-Angel and the Hadley St. Dreams. The code {{#ifexist:Template:Infobox musical artist/genre/{{FULLPAGENAME}}|{{Infobox musical artist/genre/{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}|
should be removed from the template. The current version of the field was set by one user and has never been discussed or confirmed by consensus. One user placed this code into 3 infoboxes 3+ years ago, and it was removed from the code over time. The only one left is "Infobox musical artist". This way of filling genres is not currently used by any article, and it is likely that it has been ever used like this. Or do we need a consensus here again on what has been added without consensus? :)
Solidest (
talk) 10:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
I've tried above to make a request to move multiple AKAs to deprecated section in the code, with the creation of a category for further corrections, but as it turns out this requires consensus first. So let's discuss it.
Such a move has already been made for all the other major music infoboxes: album, song, composition, etc. Everywhere the parameter variants starting with a capital letter have been moved to deprecated and have been gradually corrected and then removed from the code. So here too, changes must be made to bring all redundant variations into a standardized form and bring them into order, to keep things tidy and ease the work with different tools + some more reasons. Most of the redundant AKAs, as it seems to me, should not be questioned except for the few alternate ones. The usefulness of which we can also discuss here, these are highlighted in orange in the third column. But for all the reasons listed above, I think we should just keep the green ones only.
main label | nominee for depreciation
(capitalization) |
deprecated as well?
(alt spelling) |
---|---|---|
background | Background | |
name | Name | |
image | Img | |
image_size | Img_size | |
image_upright | Img_upright | |
landscape | Landscape | |
alt | Img_alt | |
caption | Img_capt | |
birth_name | Birth_name | |
alias | Alias | |
origin | Origin | |
genre | Genre | |
occupation | Occupation | |
occupations | Occupations | |
instruments | Instrument | instrument |
years_active | Years_active | yearsactive |
label | Label | |
associated_acts | Associated_acts | |
website | URL | url |
current_members | Current_members | |
past_members | Past_members | |
Former_members | former_members |
Solidest ( talk) 22:03, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
|background=
be changed to |type=
as the value required is a type of artist (per
Template:Infobox musical artist/hCard class's doc), while "background" makes it sound as if the value is a background color.
Gonnym (
talk) 07:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
|is group=
and make it logical — "yes" for groups and remove background field from solo persons, and then rework hCard class accordingly.
Solidest (
talk) 08:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)This
edit request to
Template:Infobox musical artist has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Merge the sandbox ( diff) as the background parameter no longer exists. Qwerfjkl talk 21:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=YG_(rapper)&oldid=1089248635
when you have the paramters in the infobox and leave them empty, they shouldnt appear in the article -- FMSky ( talk) 20:00, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
past_member_of
which was why "Formerly of" was displayed as seemingly empty. Appending the line to | module = {{Infobox person
would fix the issue. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 13:34, 23 May 2022 (UTC)This
edit request to
Template:Infobox musical artist has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please copy the coding from
Template:Infobox musical artist/sandbox onto
Template:Infobox musical artist to fix the above issues where the label would still be displayed even though the data is null.
Here is the diff for reference, the changes is minimal and is aligned with the rest of the existing params. It is also previously handled in similar fashion for the now-removed/replaced associated_acts
as seen
here. Thanks! —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 13:15, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
|past_member_of=
parameter (notice how there's no | between the = of the parameter and the { of the infobox call).
Primefac (
talk) 13:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
There are several groups that are part of their agency's collective (such as SM Town and Hello! Project); where should they be listed? Can "current_member_of" be used to apply to groups as well? lullabying ( talk) 11:04, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Is "spinoff" really the best term we could think of for replacing "associated acts"? The pages from spin-off themselves leave no room for the term to be applied to musical acts, and it surely creates associations of stylistic/thematic connections that may not be the case. Would "side projects" or similar not be more accurate and encyclopedic? U-Mos ( talk) 22:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Can we remove the spinoff paramter for solo musicians? I doesnt even make any sense to have it there. FMSky ( talk) 13:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
I notice there is no field entry option on this Infobox for a musical artist's education. There should be. Can we have that added? TheGables ( talk)
This template may also be used as a module (or sub-template) of {{ Infobox person}}; see WikiProject Infoboxes/embed for guidance on such usage. Template {{ Infobox person}} has a parameters
|alma_mater=
and |education=
for specifying information about person's education. —
andrybak (
talk) 22:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I read on the template that the "spinoff of" parameter was only for bands. For Wikipedia, it would be a great idea to expand the instructions for this parameter to solo artists as well, as many artists have larger artists that they’ve been spun off or branched off from in terms of their success. Artists included in the spinoff parameter will be considered a "mentor" of the artist, while the artists' article will be their "protégé." Expanding this will add encyclopedic value to the parameter and provide an important delegation of information. What are you thoughts on this idea? ChristianCanada ( talk) 19:35, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this. What are some examples of these artists? ili ( talk) 03:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
associated_acts
which we just removed in favor of 4 replacement params, making spinoffs
becoming a backdoor associated_acts
then what is the point of the discussion (
this and
this) above then? Furthermore, the above 5 examples isn't spinoffs and shouldn't be under spinoffs
either, a new parameter like say influenced_by
should be added instead if there is consensus. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 04:41, 28 May 2022 (UTC)This
edit request to
Template:Infobox musical artist has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Per the
recent survey: remove |associated_acts=
; add |current_member_of=
, |past_member_of=
, |spinoff_of=
, and |spinoffs=
.
ili (
talk) 17:07, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
genre
, current_members
, etc. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 14:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
|associated_acts=
are now in
Category:Pages using Template:Infobox musical artist with unknown parameters. But since each of these article should be investigated for updating to potentially use the new parameters, It would be better if this usage were tracked separately (e.g
Category:Pages using Template:Infobox musical artist with deprecated associate_acts). This way, specific guidance could be provided and other errors would be more noticeable in the old cat which now has 54k articles.
MB 16:52, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Since it seems likely that |associated_acts=
will soon be removed from this template (
see here), is it finally time to add |spouse=
and |partner=
? Upon a cursory search of the archives, it seems that we
last had an RfC about this matter exactly 10 years ago, by which time the parameters had been requested over 23 times. The requests have not stopped since then, and I've failed to uncover any new extended discussion regarding the matter.
There's many famous examples of musical acts with notable marriages/relationships to other notable individuals. In many of those examples, both individuals are often collaborators of each other. Just to name a few:
Bold denotes that the article currently combines {{
Infobox musical artist}} with {{
Infobox person}} to forcibly apply the parameters in question. Some of the other articles do this as well, but either to add |children=
, or because the individual is also notable for non-musical pursuits.
ili (
talk) 19:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
|associated_acts=
" (not for long).
ili (
talk) 19:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)|spouse=
) than have this parameter added to {{
Infobox musical artist}}... I think it would attract all kinds of cruft and lead to exactly the same problems and reasons that people want to get rid of |associated acts=
– saying "it should be left blank if the partner is not notable" won't stop hundreds of editors ignoring this.
Richard3120 (
talk) 00:04, 17 March 2022 (UTC)|associated_acts=
issue. —
Ojorojo (
talk) 14:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)|associated acts=
misuse. If someone wanted to add one's spouse, independently notable or not, just embed it with {{
Infobox person}}. See
Grimes for an example of a musician with an extremely notable (ex) partner. As a reader I've missed absolutely nothing through the infobox being embedded.
tofubird 09:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)|spouse=
or |children=
should be considered a "core" standard field, because I don't believe that it's basic information that is relevant to the person's career (usually), there's a bigger issue here – other biography infoboxes may relate to a single person, but {{
Infobox musical artist}} can include bands or groups. So even birth and death dates would be irrelevant as a standard field in these cases.
Richard3120 (
talk) 18:38, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Now that the RFC has been closed in favor of adding this parameter, anyone feel like doing it? -- Vaulter 04:45, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
|spouse=
, |spouses=
, |partner=
, and |partners=
with some trepidation, since this template's content is always contentious. You can see it working at
Clarence Avant and a few dozen articles that already had the parameter in place. Please update the documentation appropriately, per the above discussion. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 14:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Pinging @ GRuban:. Since there was a consensus to include a "spouse" field, when will it be implemented? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 04:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Every time I've used this template or edited an article that had it, the one parameter that I always run into trouble with is "associated acts". Recently, I've been going through artists' articles and adding or removing associated acts so that they meet the requirements laid out in the parameter's description. However, across all of these articles, there seems to be a disagreement about what qualifies an artist or group to be worthy of being included as an associated act for another act.
On the article for Nicki Minaj, it seems as though there's an unspoken agreement among editors that only acts who have had at least three collaborations with Minaj should be included in her infobox. Every time it's been suggested that this is the case (such as here and here) it's never been contested. I didn't really understand why until I edited Trippie Redd's infobox and realized just how cluttered it became after I added each and every one of his two-time collaborators. Meanwhile, certain acts, such as Drake and Björk, have producers listed as associated acts when they've produced one or more of their albums in its entirety. Jazmine Sullivan is listed as an associated act for Frank Ocean because she contributed additional vocals to four songs from Endless and to " Solo", but on none of those songs is she credited as a featured artist.
I've also noticed that, while the description cautions against adding the solo careers of the members of a group as associated acts for that group and adding groups with one member in common, it says nothing about adding the individual members of a group to each other's associated acts. I've run into this a number of times, including on Caroline Polachek and Riki Lindhome's pages. Speaking of Caroline Polachek, her infobox currently has A.G. Cook and Danny L Harle, but both of them only qualify if you include remixes as collaborations. The template also states that the musicians or bands listed as associated acts for any other act must be notable and significant to an act's career, but does this mean that they have to meet GNG requirements? On Glaive's page, I added four acts with whom he has collaborated multiple times, one of whom (Ericdoa) he made a collaborative EP with, but none of them have pages of their own, and I'm doubtful that some of them would pass GNG. Also, many of the (seemingly fruitless) discussions about associated acts on Ariana Grande's talk page (such as here, here, here, and here) revolve around whether or not two acts having multiple collaborations is enough for them to be considered significant for each other's careers, which made me wonder if editors should be allowed to contest the inclusion or exclusion of an associated act, even if it meets one or more of the criteria. When I added City Girls to Megan Thee Stallion's infobox last year, it was reverted on the basis that, on one of the two songs they appeared on together, they were both featured artists.
This has left me with an endless number of questions, so I wanted to open this up to editors:
Even if some of these may seem like obvious "yes" or "no" answers, I mainly want to reach a consensus on these things so that they can be included in the template's documentation and hopefully make things easier for editors like myself and others who have had trouble determining which artists can or cannot be included as associated acts. Thanks! benǝʇᴉɯ 04:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Should the associated acts parameter be removed from this infobox? Binksternet ( talk) 18:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
|current_member_of=
and |past_member_of=
. ―
Jochem van Hees (
talk) 17:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)Honestly this field doesn't seem to list "acts that were really influential to the artist or band's career", but rather guest vocalists that sang more than three times with them.
FilBenLeafBoy ( Let's Talk!) 12:04, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
member_of
. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 13:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)|associated_acts=
, strong support for |past_member_of=
, |current_member_of=
, and |spinoffs=
, and weak support for |spinoff_of=
. As far as I understand, the strongest counterargument for retaining |associated_acts=
is "We can't remove it without a proper substitute." We've already conceived good substitutes.
ili (
talk) 16:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)The new parameter does not have documentation/description, kindly add description for clarification on how to use it? — Princess Faye ( my talk) 23:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm curious how infoboxes for artists like Bruce Springsteen should be handled going forward. While he's not a member of the E Street Band I feel they should be recognized in the infobox somehow. -- Vaulter 05:35, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
With the deprecation of the parameter, will it also be removed from similar infoboxes? Template:Infobox YouTube personality is one example that springs to mind. – DarkGlow • 18:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
So, what's the plan going forward from here, for updating the infoboxes? Form an Associated Acts Replacement Task Force? Of course there's not a mechanical way to change the associated acts to either current member of / past member of or spinoffs / spinoff of. Each article will have to be analyzed individually. Right now Category:Pages using infobox musical artist with associated acts has 57,587 articles in it. I was thinking that I could just update one article a day myself, before going to bed, but it would take me almost 158 years to get through them all. — Mudwater ( Talk) 15:53, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm still finding a crapton of uses of the "background" and "associated acts" fields. Is there a way we can have a bot remove all of them? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Since previous similar request needed consensus, I started a discussion on this, which lasted several months here: Template talk:Infobox musical artist/Archive 16#Reduction of AKAs. Although the discussion wasn't that active (even after I posted a link to this discussion in WikiProject Music), there were only votes of support. Thus a consensus was reached. Therefore it is now needed to move the red parameters from the table to a separate tracking category of deprecated parameters to start gradually getting rid of them, similar to what has already been done with the other music infoboxes. Solidest ( talk) 14:24, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Alias
- Associated_acts
- Background
- Birth_name
- Current_members
- Former_members
- Genre
- Img
- Img_alt
- Img_capt
- Img_size
- Img_upright
- Instrument
- Label
- Landscape
- Name
- Occupation
- Occupations
- Origin
- Past_members
- URL
- Years_active
- former_members
- instrument
- occupation
- partners
- spouses
- url
- yearsactive
- DePiep ( talk) 19:21, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
|Genre=
will not show. Researched: Checking
TPU parameter usage, I counted some 850 articles use a capitalised parameter. Up to us to empty that category asap after the change. I find this acceptable & overseeable.
WP:AWB can replace automated).hastemplate:"Infobox musical artist" insource:/[|] *(Alias|Associated_acts|Background|Birth_name|Current_members|Former_members|Genre|Img|Img_alt|Img_capt|Img_size|Img_upright) *= */
hastemplate:"Infobox musical artist" insource:/[|] *(Instrument|Label|Landscape|Name|Occupation|Occupations|Origin|partners|Past_members|URL|Years_active) *= */
hastemplate:"Infobox musical artist" insource:/[|] *(former_members|spouses|url|yearsactive) *= */
|associated_acts=
does not produce text in the infobox (category only). -
DePiep (
talk) 15:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)|albums, awards, relatives [when bluelink], current location, management, production, pronouns, notable recordings/performances/known for, political/religious/.. association wrt music, (musical) education=
-
DePiep (
talk) 27, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
|associated_acts=
was disabled not so long ago and is still actively discussed above. It is still being used as a tracking category so that people can manually separate the values into the new parametres. So we should skip it for now. Everything else needs a separate prolonged discussion and consensus.
Solidest (
talk) 15:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)parameter whitelist pre-edit (Jun 25, 2022)
|
---|
| current_member_of | embed | honorific_prefix | Name | name | honorific_suffix | Img | image | Landscape | landscape | Img_size | image_size | image_upright | Img_upright | Img_alt | alt | Img_capt | caption | native_name | native_name_lang | Birth_name | birth_name | Alias | alias | birth_date | birth_place | Origin | origin | death_date | death_place | Genre | genre | Occupations | occupations | Occupation | occupation | Instrument | instrument | instruments | Years_active | years_active | yearsactive | Label | label | website | URL | url | Current_members | current_members | Past_members | past_members | past_member_of | Former_members | former_members | spinoff_of | spinoffs | module | module2 | module3 | Background | background | Associated_acts | associated_acts | spouse | spouses | partner | partners |
|relatives=
(say, 1st degree or bluelinked), |education=
(music school), |residence=
(current location, as opposed to origin), and |awards, notable recordings/performancces, management, influen-ces/-ced, pronoun, languages (singing), political/religious/.. engagement with music, current/past_members in recording or touring=
: all these, especially when containing bluelinks, are worthy of the infobox. MAybe also some parameters from {{
Infobox person}} are candidate. -
DePiep (
talk) 08:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)# | doc | OLD param | NEW param | change | has UC | issue | note |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Alias | Alias => alias | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
2 | name | alias | alias | 1 - | 0 | ||
3 | img | alt | alt | 1 - | 0 | ||
4 | Associated_acts | Associated_acts => associated_acts | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
5 | ib | associated_acts | associated_acts | 1 - | 0 | ||
6 | Background | Background => background | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
7 | ib | background | background | 1 - | 0 | ||
8 | person | birth_date | birth_date | 1 - | 0 | ||
9 | Birth_name | Birth_name => birth_name | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
10 | person | birth_name | birth_name | 1 - | 0 | ||
11 | person | birth_place | birth_place | 1 - | 0 | ||
12 | img | caption | caption | 1 - | 0 | ||
13 | group | current_member_of | current_member_of | 1 - | 0 | ||
14 | Current_members | Current_members => current_members | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
15 | group | current_members | current_members | 1 - | 0 | ||
16 | person | death_date | death_date | 1 - | 0 | ||
17 | person | death_place | death_place | 1 - | 0 | ||
18 | ib | embed | embed | 1 - | 0 |
| |
19 | Former_members | Former_members => past_members | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
20 | former_members | former_members => past_members | 2 - use existing SYN | 0 | |||
21 | Genre | Genre => genre | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
22 | music | genre | genre | 1 - | 0 | ||
23 | name | honorific_prefix | honorific_prefix | 1 - | 0 | ||
24 | name | honorific_suffix | honorific_suffix | 1 - | 0 | ||
25 | img | image | image | 1 - | 0 | ||
26 | img | image_size | image_size | 1 - | 0 |
| |
27 | img | image_upright | image_upright | 1 - | 0 | ||
28 | Img | Img => image | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
29 | Img_alt | Img_alt => alt | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
30 | Img_capt | Img_capt => caption | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
31 | Img_size | Img_size => image_size | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
32 | Img_upright | Img_upright => image_upright | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
33 | Instrument | Instrument => intruments | 2 - use existing PLU | 1 |
|
||
34 | instrument | instrument => instruments | 2 - use existing PLU | 0 |
|
||
35 | music | instruments | instruments | 1 - | 0 | ||
36 | Label | Label => label | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
37 | music | label | label | 1 - | 0 | ||
38 | Landscape | Landscape => landscape | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
39 | img | landscape | landscape | 1 - | 0 | ||
40 | mod | module | module | 1 - | 0 | ||
41 | mod | module2 | module2 | 1 - | 0 | ||
42 | mod | module3 | module3 | 1 - | 0 | ||
43 | Name | Name => name | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
44 | name | name | name | 1 - | 0 | ||
45 | name | native_name | native_name | 1 - | 0 |
| |
46 | name | native_name_lang | native_name_lang | 1 - | 0 |
| |
47 | Occupation | Occupation => occupations | 2 - use existing PLU | 1 |
|
||
48 | occupation | occupation => occupations | 2 - use existing PLU | 0 |
|
||
49 | Occupations | Occupations => occupations | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
50 | music | occupations | occupations | 1 - | 0 |
|
|
51 | Origin | Origin => origin | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
52 | hist | origin | origin | 1 - | 0 | ||
53 | partner | partner | partner | 1 - | 0 |
|
|
54 | partners | partners => partner | 2 - use existing SING | 0 |
|
||
55 | group | past_member_of | past_member_of | 1 - | 0 | ||
56 | Past_members | Past_members => past_members | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
57 | group | past_members | past_members | 1 - | 0 | ||
58 | group | spinoff_of | spinoff_of | 1 - | 0 | ||
59 | group | spinoffs | spinoffs | 1 - | 0 | ||
60 | partner | spouse | spouse | 1 - | 0 |
|
|
61 | spouses | spouses => spouse | 2 - use existing SYN | 0 |
|
||
62 | URL | URL => website | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
63 | url | url => website | 2 - use existing SYN | 0 |
|
||
64 | web | website | website | 1 - | 0 | ||
65 | Years_active | Years_active => years_active | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
66 | hist | years_active | years_active | 1 - | 0 | ||
67 | yearsactive | yearsactive => years_active | 2 - use existing SYN | 0 |
|
|Genre=
) are tracked as 'Deprecated' not 'Unknown', so as to help the editor in Preview (show "replace with ..." message)|associated_acts=
&
Category:Pages using infobox musical artist with associated acts (40,239) not touched (but for uppercase |Associated_acts=
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; set and apply |autoheaders=y
; minor ws for overview; subheader website, modules;"The record label or labels to which the act has been signed. Omit parenthetical dates; save that information for the main article as this degree of detail is better discussed in prose. Pipe out "Records", "Entertainment", "Music" or similar words from the end of any label's name. For example, use Universal rather than Universal Records. Separate multiple entries by using commas, {{Flatlist}}, or {{Hlist}}. Start with the oldest first."
If label is called "Universal Records" you can't shorten it yourself because it's WP:OR. You can use "Universal" if label is actually called "Universal" (official or common name). If the label is called "Alex Music" then it's not "Alex"... Eurohunter ( talk) 10:22, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
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Every time I've used this template or edited an article that had it, the one parameter that I always run into trouble with is "associated acts". Recently, I've been going through artists' articles and adding or removing associated acts so that they meet the requirements laid out in the parameter's description. However, across all of these articles, there seems to be a disagreement about what qualifies an artist or group to be worthy of being included as an associated act for another act.
On the article for Nicki Minaj, it seems as though there's an unspoken agreement among editors that only acts who have had at least three collaborations with Minaj should be included in her infobox. Every time it's been suggested that this is the case (such as here and here) it's never been contested. I didn't really understand why until I edited Trippie Redd's infobox and realized just how cluttered it became after I added each and every one of his two-time collaborators. Meanwhile, certain acts, such as Drake and Björk, have producers listed as associated acts when they've produced one or more of their albums in its entirety. Jazmine Sullivan is listed as an associated act for Frank Ocean because she contributed additional vocals to four songs from Endless and to " Solo", but on none of those songs is she credited as a featured artist.
I've also noticed that, while the description cautions against adding the solo careers of the members of a group as associated acts for that group and adding groups with one member in common, it says nothing about adding the individual members of a group to each other's associated acts. I've run into this a number of times, including on Caroline Polachek and Riki Lindhome's pages. Speaking of Caroline Polachek, her infobox currently has A.G. Cook and Danny L Harle, but both of them only qualify if you include remixes as collaborations. The template also states that the musicians or bands listed as associated acts for any other act must be notable and significant to an act's career, but does this mean that they have to meet GNG requirements? On Glaive's page, I added four acts with whom he has collaborated multiple times, one of whom (Ericdoa) he made a collaborative EP with, but none of them have pages of their own, and I'm doubtful that some of them would pass GNG. Also, many of the (seemingly fruitless) discussions about associated acts on Ariana Grande's talk page (such as here, here, here, and here) revolve around whether or not two acts having multiple collaborations is enough for them to be considered significant for each other's careers, which made me wonder if editors should be allowed to contest the inclusion or exclusion of an associated act, even if it meets one or more of the criteria. When I added City Girls to Megan Thee Stallion's infobox last year, it was reverted on the basis that, on one of the two songs they appeared on together, they were both featured artists.
This has left me with an endless number of questions, so I wanted to open this up to editors:
Even if some of these may seem like obvious "yes" or "no" answers, I mainly want to reach a consensus on these things so that they can be included in the template's documentation and hopefully make things easier for editors like myself and others who have had trouble determining which artists can or cannot be included as associated acts. Thanks! benǝʇᴉɯ 04:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Should the associated acts parameter be removed from this infobox? Binksternet ( talk) 18:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
|current_member_of=
and |past_member_of=
. ―
Jochem van Hees (
talk) 17:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Honestly this field doesn't seem to list "acts that were really influential to the artist or band's career", but rather guest vocalists that sang more than three times with them.
FilBenLeafBoy ( Let's Talk!) 12:04, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
member_of
. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 13:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)This
edit request to
Template:Infobox musical artist has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
See
Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 April 15#Template:Infobox album/genre/Sol-Angel and the Hadley St. Dreams. The code {{#ifexist:Template:Infobox musical artist/genre/{{FULLPAGENAME}}|{{Infobox musical artist/genre/{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}|
should be removed from the template. The current version of the field was set by one user and has never been discussed or confirmed by consensus. One user placed this code into 3 infoboxes 3+ years ago, and it was removed from the code over time. The only one left is "Infobox musical artist". This way of filling genres is not currently used by any article, and it is likely that it has been ever used like this. Or do we need a consensus here again on what has been added without consensus? :)
Solidest (
talk) 10:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
I've tried above to make a request to move multiple AKAs to deprecated section in the code, with the creation of a category for further corrections, but as it turns out this requires consensus first. So let's discuss it.
Such a move has already been made for all the other major music infoboxes: album, song, composition, etc. Everywhere the parameter variants starting with a capital letter have been moved to deprecated and have been gradually corrected and then removed from the code. So here too, changes must be made to bring all redundant variations into a standardized form and bring them into order, to keep things tidy and ease the work with different tools + some more reasons. Most of the redundant AKAs, as it seems to me, should not be questioned except for the few alternate ones. The usefulness of which we can also discuss here, these are highlighted in orange in the third column. But for all the reasons listed above, I think we should just keep the green ones only.
main label | nominee for depreciation
(capitalization) |
deprecated as well?
(alt spelling) |
---|---|---|
background | Background | |
name | Name | |
image | Img | |
image_size | Img_size | |
image_upright | Img_upright | |
landscape | Landscape | |
alt | Img_alt | |
caption | Img_capt | |
birth_name | Birth_name | |
alias | Alias | |
origin | Origin | |
genre | Genre | |
occupation | Occupation | |
occupations | Occupations | |
instruments | Instrument | instrument |
years_active | Years_active | yearsactive |
label | Label | |
associated_acts | Associated_acts | |
website | URL | url |
current_members | Current_members | |
past_members | Past_members | |
Former_members | former_members |
Solidest ( talk) 22:03, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
|background=
be changed to |type=
as the value required is a type of artist (per
Template:Infobox musical artist/hCard class's doc), while "background" makes it sound as if the value is a background color.
Gonnym (
talk) 07:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
|is group=
and make it logical — "yes" for groups and remove background field from solo persons, and then rework hCard class accordingly.
Solidest (
talk) 08:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)This
edit request to
Template:Infobox musical artist has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Merge the sandbox ( diff) as the background parameter no longer exists. Qwerfjkl talk 21:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=YG_(rapper)&oldid=1089248635
when you have the paramters in the infobox and leave them empty, they shouldnt appear in the article -- FMSky ( talk) 20:00, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
past_member_of
which was why "Formerly of" was displayed as seemingly empty. Appending the line to | module = {{Infobox person
would fix the issue. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 13:34, 23 May 2022 (UTC)This
edit request to
Template:Infobox musical artist has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please copy the coding from
Template:Infobox musical artist/sandbox onto
Template:Infobox musical artist to fix the above issues where the label would still be displayed even though the data is null.
Here is the diff for reference, the changes is minimal and is aligned with the rest of the existing params. It is also previously handled in similar fashion for the now-removed/replaced associated_acts
as seen
here. Thanks! —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 13:15, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
|past_member_of=
parameter (notice how there's no | between the = of the parameter and the { of the infobox call).
Primefac (
talk) 13:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
There are several groups that are part of their agency's collective (such as SM Town and Hello! Project); where should they be listed? Can "current_member_of" be used to apply to groups as well? lullabying ( talk) 11:04, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Is "spinoff" really the best term we could think of for replacing "associated acts"? The pages from spin-off themselves leave no room for the term to be applied to musical acts, and it surely creates associations of stylistic/thematic connections that may not be the case. Would "side projects" or similar not be more accurate and encyclopedic? U-Mos ( talk) 22:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Can we remove the spinoff paramter for solo musicians? I doesnt even make any sense to have it there. FMSky ( talk) 13:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
I notice there is no field entry option on this Infobox for a musical artist's education. There should be. Can we have that added? TheGables ( talk)
This template may also be used as a module (or sub-template) of {{ Infobox person}}; see WikiProject Infoboxes/embed for guidance on such usage. Template {{ Infobox person}} has a parameters
|alma_mater=
and |education=
for specifying information about person's education. —
andrybak (
talk) 22:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I read on the template that the "spinoff of" parameter was only for bands. For Wikipedia, it would be a great idea to expand the instructions for this parameter to solo artists as well, as many artists have larger artists that they’ve been spun off or branched off from in terms of their success. Artists included in the spinoff parameter will be considered a "mentor" of the artist, while the artists' article will be their "protégé." Expanding this will add encyclopedic value to the parameter and provide an important delegation of information. What are you thoughts on this idea? ChristianCanada ( talk) 19:35, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this. What are some examples of these artists? ili ( talk) 03:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
associated_acts
which we just removed in favor of 4 replacement params, making spinoffs
becoming a backdoor associated_acts
then what is the point of the discussion (
this and
this) above then? Furthermore, the above 5 examples isn't spinoffs and shouldn't be under spinoffs
either, a new parameter like say influenced_by
should be added instead if there is consensus. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 04:41, 28 May 2022 (UTC)This
edit request to
Template:Infobox musical artist has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Per the
recent survey: remove |associated_acts=
; add |current_member_of=
, |past_member_of=
, |spinoff_of=
, and |spinoffs=
.
ili (
talk) 17:07, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
genre
, current_members
, etc. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 14:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
|associated_acts=
are now in
Category:Pages using Template:Infobox musical artist with unknown parameters. But since each of these article should be investigated for updating to potentially use the new parameters, It would be better if this usage were tracked separately (e.g
Category:Pages using Template:Infobox musical artist with deprecated associate_acts). This way, specific guidance could be provided and other errors would be more noticeable in the old cat which now has 54k articles.
MB 16:52, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Since it seems likely that |associated_acts=
will soon be removed from this template (
see here), is it finally time to add |spouse=
and |partner=
? Upon a cursory search of the archives, it seems that we
last had an RfC about this matter exactly 10 years ago, by which time the parameters had been requested over 23 times. The requests have not stopped since then, and I've failed to uncover any new extended discussion regarding the matter.
There's many famous examples of musical acts with notable marriages/relationships to other notable individuals. In many of those examples, both individuals are often collaborators of each other. Just to name a few:
Bold denotes that the article currently combines {{
Infobox musical artist}} with {{
Infobox person}} to forcibly apply the parameters in question. Some of the other articles do this as well, but either to add |children=
, or because the individual is also notable for non-musical pursuits.
ili (
talk) 19:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
|associated_acts=
" (not for long).
ili (
talk) 19:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)|spouse=
) than have this parameter added to {{
Infobox musical artist}}... I think it would attract all kinds of cruft and lead to exactly the same problems and reasons that people want to get rid of |associated acts=
– saying "it should be left blank if the partner is not notable" won't stop hundreds of editors ignoring this.
Richard3120 (
talk) 00:04, 17 March 2022 (UTC)|associated_acts=
issue. —
Ojorojo (
talk) 14:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)|associated acts=
misuse. If someone wanted to add one's spouse, independently notable or not, just embed it with {{
Infobox person}}. See
Grimes for an example of a musician with an extremely notable (ex) partner. As a reader I've missed absolutely nothing through the infobox being embedded.
tofubird 09:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)|spouse=
or |children=
should be considered a "core" standard field, because I don't believe that it's basic information that is relevant to the person's career (usually), there's a bigger issue here – other biography infoboxes may relate to a single person, but {{
Infobox musical artist}} can include bands or groups. So even birth and death dates would be irrelevant as a standard field in these cases.
Richard3120 (
talk) 18:38, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Now that the RFC has been closed in favor of adding this parameter, anyone feel like doing it? -- Vaulter 04:45, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
|spouse=
, |spouses=
, |partner=
, and |partners=
with some trepidation, since this template's content is always contentious. You can see it working at
Clarence Avant and a few dozen articles that already had the parameter in place. Please update the documentation appropriately, per the above discussion. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 14:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Pinging @ GRuban:. Since there was a consensus to include a "spouse" field, when will it be implemented? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 04:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Every time I've used this template or edited an article that had it, the one parameter that I always run into trouble with is "associated acts". Recently, I've been going through artists' articles and adding or removing associated acts so that they meet the requirements laid out in the parameter's description. However, across all of these articles, there seems to be a disagreement about what qualifies an artist or group to be worthy of being included as an associated act for another act.
On the article for Nicki Minaj, it seems as though there's an unspoken agreement among editors that only acts who have had at least three collaborations with Minaj should be included in her infobox. Every time it's been suggested that this is the case (such as here and here) it's never been contested. I didn't really understand why until I edited Trippie Redd's infobox and realized just how cluttered it became after I added each and every one of his two-time collaborators. Meanwhile, certain acts, such as Drake and Björk, have producers listed as associated acts when they've produced one or more of their albums in its entirety. Jazmine Sullivan is listed as an associated act for Frank Ocean because she contributed additional vocals to four songs from Endless and to " Solo", but on none of those songs is she credited as a featured artist.
I've also noticed that, while the description cautions against adding the solo careers of the members of a group as associated acts for that group and adding groups with one member in common, it says nothing about adding the individual members of a group to each other's associated acts. I've run into this a number of times, including on Caroline Polachek and Riki Lindhome's pages. Speaking of Caroline Polachek, her infobox currently has A.G. Cook and Danny L Harle, but both of them only qualify if you include remixes as collaborations. The template also states that the musicians or bands listed as associated acts for any other act must be notable and significant to an act's career, but does this mean that they have to meet GNG requirements? On Glaive's page, I added four acts with whom he has collaborated multiple times, one of whom (Ericdoa) he made a collaborative EP with, but none of them have pages of their own, and I'm doubtful that some of them would pass GNG. Also, many of the (seemingly fruitless) discussions about associated acts on Ariana Grande's talk page (such as here, here, here, and here) revolve around whether or not two acts having multiple collaborations is enough for them to be considered significant for each other's careers, which made me wonder if editors should be allowed to contest the inclusion or exclusion of an associated act, even if it meets one or more of the criteria. When I added City Girls to Megan Thee Stallion's infobox last year, it was reverted on the basis that, on one of the two songs they appeared on together, they were both featured artists.
This has left me with an endless number of questions, so I wanted to open this up to editors:
Even if some of these may seem like obvious "yes" or "no" answers, I mainly want to reach a consensus on these things so that they can be included in the template's documentation and hopefully make things easier for editors like myself and others who have had trouble determining which artists can or cannot be included as associated acts. Thanks! benǝʇᴉɯ 04:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Should the associated acts parameter be removed from this infobox? Binksternet ( talk) 18:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
|current_member_of=
and |past_member_of=
. ―
Jochem van Hees (
talk) 17:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)Honestly this field doesn't seem to list "acts that were really influential to the artist or band's career", but rather guest vocalists that sang more than three times with them.
FilBenLeafBoy ( Let's Talk!) 12:04, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
member_of
. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝) 13:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)|associated_acts=
, strong support for |past_member_of=
, |current_member_of=
, and |spinoffs=
, and weak support for |spinoff_of=
. As far as I understand, the strongest counterargument for retaining |associated_acts=
is "We can't remove it without a proper substitute." We've already conceived good substitutes.
ili (
talk) 16:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)The new parameter does not have documentation/description, kindly add description for clarification on how to use it? — Princess Faye ( my talk) 23:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm curious how infoboxes for artists like Bruce Springsteen should be handled going forward. While he's not a member of the E Street Band I feel they should be recognized in the infobox somehow. -- Vaulter 05:35, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
With the deprecation of the parameter, will it also be removed from similar infoboxes? Template:Infobox YouTube personality is one example that springs to mind. – DarkGlow • 18:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
So, what's the plan going forward from here, for updating the infoboxes? Form an Associated Acts Replacement Task Force? Of course there's not a mechanical way to change the associated acts to either current member of / past member of or spinoffs / spinoff of. Each article will have to be analyzed individually. Right now Category:Pages using infobox musical artist with associated acts has 57,587 articles in it. I was thinking that I could just update one article a day myself, before going to bed, but it would take me almost 158 years to get through them all. — Mudwater ( Talk) 15:53, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm still finding a crapton of uses of the "background" and "associated acts" fields. Is there a way we can have a bot remove all of them? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Since previous similar request needed consensus, I started a discussion on this, which lasted several months here: Template talk:Infobox musical artist/Archive 16#Reduction of AKAs. Although the discussion wasn't that active (even after I posted a link to this discussion in WikiProject Music), there were only votes of support. Thus a consensus was reached. Therefore it is now needed to move the red parameters from the table to a separate tracking category of deprecated parameters to start gradually getting rid of them, similar to what has already been done with the other music infoboxes. Solidest ( talk) 14:24, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Alias
- Associated_acts
- Background
- Birth_name
- Current_members
- Former_members
- Genre
- Img
- Img_alt
- Img_capt
- Img_size
- Img_upright
- Instrument
- Label
- Landscape
- Name
- Occupation
- Occupations
- Origin
- Past_members
- URL
- Years_active
- former_members
- instrument
- occupation
- partners
- spouses
- url
- yearsactive
- DePiep ( talk) 19:21, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
|Genre=
will not show. Researched: Checking
TPU parameter usage, I counted some 850 articles use a capitalised parameter. Up to us to empty that category asap after the change. I find this acceptable & overseeable.
WP:AWB can replace automated).hastemplate:"Infobox musical artist" insource:/[|] *(Alias|Associated_acts|Background|Birth_name|Current_members|Former_members|Genre|Img|Img_alt|Img_capt|Img_size|Img_upright) *= */
hastemplate:"Infobox musical artist" insource:/[|] *(Instrument|Label|Landscape|Name|Occupation|Occupations|Origin|partners|Past_members|URL|Years_active) *= */
hastemplate:"Infobox musical artist" insource:/[|] *(former_members|spouses|url|yearsactive) *= */
|associated_acts=
does not produce text in the infobox (category only). -
DePiep (
talk) 15:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)|albums, awards, relatives [when bluelink], current location, management, production, pronouns, notable recordings/performances/known for, political/religious/.. association wrt music, (musical) education=
-
DePiep (
talk) 27, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
|associated_acts=
was disabled not so long ago and is still actively discussed above. It is still being used as a tracking category so that people can manually separate the values into the new parametres. So we should skip it for now. Everything else needs a separate prolonged discussion and consensus.
Solidest (
talk) 15:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)parameter whitelist pre-edit (Jun 25, 2022)
|
---|
| current_member_of | embed | honorific_prefix | Name | name | honorific_suffix | Img | image | Landscape | landscape | Img_size | image_size | image_upright | Img_upright | Img_alt | alt | Img_capt | caption | native_name | native_name_lang | Birth_name | birth_name | Alias | alias | birth_date | birth_place | Origin | origin | death_date | death_place | Genre | genre | Occupations | occupations | Occupation | occupation | Instrument | instrument | instruments | Years_active | years_active | yearsactive | Label | label | website | URL | url | Current_members | current_members | Past_members | past_members | past_member_of | Former_members | former_members | spinoff_of | spinoffs | module | module2 | module3 | Background | background | Associated_acts | associated_acts | spouse | spouses | partner | partners |
|relatives=
(say, 1st degree or bluelinked), |education=
(music school), |residence=
(current location, as opposed to origin), and |awards, notable recordings/performancces, management, influen-ces/-ced, pronoun, languages (singing), political/religious/.. engagement with music, current/past_members in recording or touring=
: all these, especially when containing bluelinks, are worthy of the infobox. MAybe also some parameters from {{
Infobox person}} are candidate. -
DePiep (
talk) 08:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)# | doc | OLD param | NEW param | change | has UC | issue | note |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Alias | Alias => alias | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
2 | name | alias | alias | 1 - | 0 | ||
3 | img | alt | alt | 1 - | 0 | ||
4 | Associated_acts | Associated_acts => associated_acts | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
5 | ib | associated_acts | associated_acts | 1 - | 0 | ||
6 | Background | Background => background | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
7 | ib | background | background | 1 - | 0 | ||
8 | person | birth_date | birth_date | 1 - | 0 | ||
9 | Birth_name | Birth_name => birth_name | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
10 | person | birth_name | birth_name | 1 - | 0 | ||
11 | person | birth_place | birth_place | 1 - | 0 | ||
12 | img | caption | caption | 1 - | 0 | ||
13 | group | current_member_of | current_member_of | 1 - | 0 | ||
14 | Current_members | Current_members => current_members | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
15 | group | current_members | current_members | 1 - | 0 | ||
16 | person | death_date | death_date | 1 - | 0 | ||
17 | person | death_place | death_place | 1 - | 0 | ||
18 | ib | embed | embed | 1 - | 0 |
| |
19 | Former_members | Former_members => past_members | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
20 | former_members | former_members => past_members | 2 - use existing SYN | 0 | |||
21 | Genre | Genre => genre | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
22 | music | genre | genre | 1 - | 0 | ||
23 | name | honorific_prefix | honorific_prefix | 1 - | 0 | ||
24 | name | honorific_suffix | honorific_suffix | 1 - | 0 | ||
25 | img | image | image | 1 - | 0 | ||
26 | img | image_size | image_size | 1 - | 0 |
| |
27 | img | image_upright | image_upright | 1 - | 0 | ||
28 | Img | Img => image | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
29 | Img_alt | Img_alt => alt | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
30 | Img_capt | Img_capt => caption | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
31 | Img_size | Img_size => image_size | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
32 | Img_upright | Img_upright => image_upright | 2 - use existing SYN | 1 |
|
||
33 | Instrument | Instrument => intruments | 2 - use existing PLU | 1 |
|
||
34 | instrument | instrument => instruments | 2 - use existing PLU | 0 |
|
||
35 | music | instruments | instruments | 1 - | 0 | ||
36 | Label | Label => label | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
37 | music | label | label | 1 - | 0 | ||
38 | Landscape | Landscape => landscape | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
39 | img | landscape | landscape | 1 - | 0 | ||
40 | mod | module | module | 1 - | 0 | ||
41 | mod | module2 | module2 | 1 - | 0 | ||
42 | mod | module3 | module3 | 1 - | 0 | ||
43 | Name | Name => name | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
44 | name | name | name | 1 - | 0 | ||
45 | name | native_name | native_name | 1 - | 0 |
| |
46 | name | native_name_lang | native_name_lang | 1 - | 0 |
| |
47 | Occupation | Occupation => occupations | 2 - use existing PLU | 1 |
|
||
48 | occupation | occupation => occupations | 2 - use existing PLU | 0 |
|
||
49 | Occupations | Occupations => occupations | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
50 | music | occupations | occupations | 1 - | 0 |
|
|
51 | Origin | Origin => origin | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
52 | hist | origin | origin | 1 - | 0 | ||
53 | partner | partner | partner | 1 - | 0 |
|
|
54 | partners | partners => partner | 2 - use existing SING | 0 |
|
||
55 | group | past_member_of | past_member_of | 1 - | 0 | ||
56 | Past_members | Past_members => past_members | 2 - into lc | 1 |
|
||
57 | group | past_members | past_members | 1 - | 0 | ||
58 | group | spinoff_of | spinoff_of | 1 - | 0 | ||
59 | group | spinoffs | spinoffs | 1 - | 0 | ||
60 | partner | spouse | spouse | 1 - | 0 |
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; minor ws for overview; subheader website, modules;"The record label or labels to which the act has been signed. Omit parenthetical dates; save that information for the main article as this degree of detail is better discussed in prose. Pipe out "Records", "Entertainment", "Music" or similar words from the end of any label's name. For example, use Universal rather than Universal Records. Separate multiple entries by using commas, {{Flatlist}}, or {{Hlist}}. Start with the oldest first."
If label is called "Universal Records" you can't shorten it yourself because it's WP:OR. You can use "Universal" if label is actually called "Universal" (official or common name). If the label is called "Alex Music" then it's not "Alex"... Eurohunter ( talk) 10:22, 1 July 2022 (UTC)