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There is a little bit of an edit war going on at Brad Renfro about weather the death cause parameter should be used. His death clearly falls somewhere in between of the two sets of examples given in the template documentation. Is it possible to make the guidance more explicit about how to handle cases in the middle. I note that this parameter is used on both River Phoenix and Elvis Presley so is consensus that this parameter should be used in these kind of circumstances?
The bit of the guidance that I'm struggling to understand is "should only be included when the cause of death has significance for the subject's notability." This sounds simple but I'm not sure how to apply it in these kind of cases. RicDod ( talk) 17:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Would anyone object linking the "Nationality" field name to Nationality to clarify this field is for a legal status and not an ethnicity, and so people can hopefully be more educated about the difference between legal nationality and legal citizenship? -- Beland ( talk) 03:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
an ethnic group constituting one element of a larger unit (such as a nation)[1] Still, readers will know Wikipedia's convention for the field, if it is consistent. If editors are the target, Template:Infobox person/doc already states that ethnicity does not belong in this field. — Bagumba ( talk) 03:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Too many links can make the lead hard to read, or at least devalues the more essential links. — Bagumba ( talk) 02:21, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
In any case, since you want more than just a link to address the original problem: I have not stated that. I've only said that the proposed link doesn't resolve the concern. As for "(legal)", I don't think it would be an improvement to invite editors to highlight additional nationalites that some people technically have, but which are not part of their notability. — Bagumba ( talk) 04:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Update: After going through thousands of biography infoboxes, it appears that editors regularly put ethnicity into the "nationality" field, in violation of WP:INFONAT. I've started a discussion on abolishing or disfavoring or changing this field. Please add your thoughts at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Abolishing or disfavoring the "nationality" field. -- Beland ( talk) 21:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Just like how the origin parameter is used in infoboxes for music performers, would anyone add the parameter on infobox person as it should the city/country/place where the person originated from (that is, the place where the individual started their career, and should not match their birth location.) 2600:6C40:5400:A0E:455D:BF12:9DC2:48C6 ( talk) 08:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Is there a reason this is hardcoded to 150px, while the main image uses "frameless", which follows user preferences? Could we use "frameless" as default for the signature as well? — Kusma ( talk) 21:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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Description of suggested change: Disable bolding of |native_name=
when |native_name_lang=
uses a non-Latin script
At the very least for Chinese, per
MOS:ZH. Hopefully it's alright if I don't fashion a diff for this one, but it's something I'm constantly having to readjust for with {{
normal}}
on dozens of articles.
Remsense
诉
10:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
either when that is the default encoding for the language or when it is triggered by a xx-Latn
language code
. It appears to go further in these examples with Serbian, which could use Latin or Cyrillic script:
Should
the 2020 consensus to remove |residence=
from the
Infobox person template be overturned?
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
01:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
There was
a 2020 consensus to remove |residence=
from the
Infobox person template, and I want to readdress it.
|birth_place=
should be removed as well.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
13:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC){{
City_of_Residence|name=Kim Kardashian|city=Los Angeles}}
→ Kim Kardashian is a resident of Los Angeles |residence=
in this case could go to help voters be more informed about the candidates running in their district. Note that congressional candidates may have never held office before and thus would be using the Infobox person template.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
14:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
|birth_place=
?
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
13:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
|residence=
parameter, but only if its scope could be extremely limited. If you run a search for pages using the parameter (hastemplate:"infobox person" insource:/residence *= *[A-Za-z\[]/
), plenty come up,(see reply) but I am inclined to say that inclusion criteria should resemble either: Only include actual buildings or grounds well known as the subject’s residence, as Carinhall is for Hermann Göringor at least the looser standard,
Only include places strongly associated with the subject as their residence, as with Andre Agassi, who lives in Las Vegas; obviously both examples have flaws, but hopefully this prompts clearer debate. In either case, we would also reinforce that any place listed must be discussed in the article body, not merely cited, so perhaps for some, this could be a third, looser standard. Note that both examples there already have their residence listed because they use more field-specific infoboxes. At the end of this, I would prefer to see most person infoboxes aligned one way or the other; that may mean notifying more template talk pages now, or holding another mass-RfC after this one’s conclusion. — HTGS ( talk) 22:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Do you really think that sportspeople should be treated differently to any other bio using infobox person?
{{
infobox building}}
, or as a module in this infobox under {{
infobox officeholder}}
. Now, if you wanted to argue about including this parameter into infobox officeholder, I'd be interested to hear the arguments on both sides of that one.
Van
Isaac, GHTV
cont
WpWS
03:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Please add a "burial date" parameter, since there is a "burial place" parameter. 2606:8700:A:2:8136:3331:CEB:FD6C ( talk) 16:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
|interment=
would be far from trivial for the individuals whose dates of death are unknown due to being kidnapped and murdered, lost, or held hostage. For those people and their families do you think they consider the date of interment “trivia” or the only thing they have? Think before you write something so ignorant.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
09:54, 7 May 2024 (UTC)|Interment=
would be a very nice addition to the infobox parameters! :) I think that what a lot of people on here who think date of death is sufficient don’t understand is that some people aren’t so lucky to know the date their loved one died. If we have parameters for when someone went missing.. I think haven’t a parameter for interment would be a very nice addition that would validate the experiences of many people. Would you be alright with me starting an official discussion on this for editors to take a vote?
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
09:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
|interment=
would be nice.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
10:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)|Interment=
fit with "funeral" or "cremation"? Which is the more significant event? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk)
10:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
|interment=
would be better than |burial=
as OP suggested is that interment can cover both burial and the spreading of one’s ashes. It could also be used to refer to
sky and
tree burials. It just means the returning of one’s remains to nature and the earth.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
10:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Ignoring the fact that not everyone chooses burial, I don't see why anything like this belongs in an infobox. The article body allows information to be added with flexibility available to fit the particular person/situation. O3000, Ret. ( talk) 11:29, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
With the |birth_place=
parameter having the corresponding |birth_date=
parameter and the |death_place=
parameter having the corresponding |death_date=
parameter, do you agree to have the |burial_place=
parameter given the corresponding |burial_date=
parameter?
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
15:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
|burial_place=
is significant because it's where people would go to see the grave, but the burial date has only historical significance, and just not enough of it to justify infobox bloat.
Sdkb
talk
16:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
internment_date=
parameter that only functioned when death_date=
was unspecified, there might be an argument worth supporting there. But burial_date
is just not up to snuff neither as a parameter name nor as an unconditionally displayed value. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Vanisaac (
talk •
contribs)
18:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)The date of birth on Chris Packham is correct but the age is calculating incorrectly - he's now 63 but the template still puts his age at 62. Is this a known bug? Waggers TALK 12:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
{{
birth date and age}}
, you can see that the age only updates when the page cache is purged.
Van
Isaac, GHTV
cont
WpWS
13:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
This template only allows one parameter for the person's office and for similar things. I propose that we add parameters such as office2, term2, predecessor2, and successor2 (with as many numbers as wanted) for people who are known for multiple positions or held the same position multiple times. This would match Template:Infobox officeholder.
For example, this would be useful for Bob Iger, who served as CEO of Disney from 2005 to 2020 and again from 2022 to present. The current infobox lists both Michael Eisner and Bob Chapek in the "predecessor" parameter, making it unclear which preceded which term. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 ( talk | contribs) 04:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Would it be good to have clearer guidelines on the usage of the "criminal charges" parameter? Criminal charges appear to be much like wedding engagements. They are short-lived preludes to longterm events: Convictions or marriages (write your own joke :)
Considering charges can be dropped against someone, would making the guidelines clearer to limit charges to only those that actually resulted in criminal prosecution? (Whether acquitted or found guilty.) If not, what examples could there be of someone having a lead-level fact relating to a criminal charge that was dropped and didn't result in criminal proceedings (that are not currently ongoing)? 92.12.76.138 ( talk) 18:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
On BLPs of independent voters, is it more appropriate to fill the "party" parameter with "independent" or leave it blank? My cursory understanding of the parameter's usage is to note party affiliations, which independent voters do not have. This has been disputed on Sara Haines. KyleJoan talk 07:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
The education and alma mater parameters can cause a bit of confusion amongst some editors, especially with regards to listing colleges/universities some of the subjects attended. One of the instructions in the infobox documentation currently states "It is usually not relevant to include either [the education or alma mater] parameter for non-graduates, but article talk page consensus may conclude otherwise, as perhaps at Bill Gates." For example, Jeffrey Wright left New York University before completing his master's degree and Robert Frost didn't receive any degrees from Dartmouth College or Harvard University.
My questions are: should we use the alma mater or education parameter if the subject didn't earn a degree and (if not), how should we go about it? Also, which parameter should we use if the subject has attended multiple universities (such as Peter Weller, Bridgit Mendler, etc.)? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 03:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
|education=
.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
03:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)This template is in my opinion a good candidate for Wikidata integration. Wikidata has some quite detailed information on many people, and that information could automatically populate this infobox.
I would maybe caveat that, unlike some other infoboxes, this one should probably require referenced Wikidata entries to avoid some potential problems in the case of WP:BLP. David Palmer// cloventt ( talk) 08:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Template talk:Listen voice. —
andrybak (
talk)
20:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Reliable sources are reporting that Eiko Masuyama died at age 89 calculated in East Asian age reckoning: [5], [6]. The Wikipedia article uses Template:Death date and age to calculate the age as 88. Should we create an age template for these cases when age is reported in East Asian age reckoning and use both in the article? Mika1h ( talk) 13:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Currently, the label for a person’s parents displays as “Parent” or “Parents”, depending on how many notable parents the person has. Does anyone else feel like “Parent”—for those very common cases where only one of the parents is notable—carries too much implication that the person only had one parent? The label obviously carries the implication of “[Notable] parent” to us editors, but the general readership is unlikely to get that.
Potential solution: Where the bio has only one notable parent, and that parent is in the |mother=
or |father=
field, we could display “Father” or “Mother” instead of parent. Obviously where the situation is less standard (non-binary parent, same sex parents) |parents=
and “Parent” or “Parents” would still be used, but for the common singularly notable parent, we would encourage |mother=
or |father=
. —
HTGS (
talk)
06:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi, looking at Lauren Ridloff and Ryan Condal, it looks like the text in "Spouse" is more to the left than other fields' text. Not sure if this is something that needs to be fixed? Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 20:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Recently, the nationality field disappeared from the Blank template with basic parameters yet it still appears in the Blank template with all parameters.
Several biographical / person articles utilize the Blank template with basic parameters and contain the nationality field.
Why was nationality removed? Should it be restored for consistency?
Thanks. Truthanado ( talk) 21:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
The documentation for {{
Infobox person}}
states that |alma_mater=
is a more concise alternative to (not addition to)
|education=
. However, it is very common to see both parameters used in a single infobox. Usually, in such cases, |education=
is used for secondary education and |alma_mater=
is used for tertiary education. At other times, |education=
is used for the degree and |alma_mater=
for the university that awarded it.
One possibility is to change the template so that |alma_mater=
is not displayed if |education=
is used. (Something similar has been done with |nationality=
and |birth_place=
for {{
Infobox officeholder}}
. It has been discussed here:
Template talk:Infobox officeholder/Archive 25#Has the "nationality" parameter disappeared?)
A second possibility is to abolish |alma_mater=
altogether.
Does anyone else have an opinion on this matter? Is it worth starting an RfC? If I wanted to start an RfC, where would be the best place to do so? Khiikiat ( talk) 07:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
i think it is relevant especially for public figures or celebrities Gsgdd ( talk) 03:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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There is a little bit of an edit war going on at Brad Renfro about weather the death cause parameter should be used. His death clearly falls somewhere in between of the two sets of examples given in the template documentation. Is it possible to make the guidance more explicit about how to handle cases in the middle. I note that this parameter is used on both River Phoenix and Elvis Presley so is consensus that this parameter should be used in these kind of circumstances?
The bit of the guidance that I'm struggling to understand is "should only be included when the cause of death has significance for the subject's notability." This sounds simple but I'm not sure how to apply it in these kind of cases. RicDod ( talk) 17:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Would anyone object linking the "Nationality" field name to Nationality to clarify this field is for a legal status and not an ethnicity, and so people can hopefully be more educated about the difference between legal nationality and legal citizenship? -- Beland ( talk) 03:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
an ethnic group constituting one element of a larger unit (such as a nation)[1] Still, readers will know Wikipedia's convention for the field, if it is consistent. If editors are the target, Template:Infobox person/doc already states that ethnicity does not belong in this field. — Bagumba ( talk) 03:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Too many links can make the lead hard to read, or at least devalues the more essential links. — Bagumba ( talk) 02:21, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
In any case, since you want more than just a link to address the original problem: I have not stated that. I've only said that the proposed link doesn't resolve the concern. As for "(legal)", I don't think it would be an improvement to invite editors to highlight additional nationalites that some people technically have, but which are not part of their notability. — Bagumba ( talk) 04:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Update: After going through thousands of biography infoboxes, it appears that editors regularly put ethnicity into the "nationality" field, in violation of WP:INFONAT. I've started a discussion on abolishing or disfavoring or changing this field. Please add your thoughts at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Abolishing or disfavoring the "nationality" field. -- Beland ( talk) 21:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Just like how the origin parameter is used in infoboxes for music performers, would anyone add the parameter on infobox person as it should the city/country/place where the person originated from (that is, the place where the individual started their career, and should not match their birth location.) 2600:6C40:5400:A0E:455D:BF12:9DC2:48C6 ( talk) 08:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Is there a reason this is hardcoded to 150px, while the main image uses "frameless", which follows user preferences? Could we use "frameless" as default for the signature as well? — Kusma ( talk) 21:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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Description of suggested change: Disable bolding of |native_name=
when |native_name_lang=
uses a non-Latin script
At the very least for Chinese, per
MOS:ZH. Hopefully it's alright if I don't fashion a diff for this one, but it's something I'm constantly having to readjust for with {{
normal}}
on dozens of articles.
Remsense
诉
10:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
either when that is the default encoding for the language or when it is triggered by a xx-Latn
language code
. It appears to go further in these examples with Serbian, which could use Latin or Cyrillic script:
Should
the 2020 consensus to remove |residence=
from the
Infobox person template be overturned?
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
01:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
There was
a 2020 consensus to remove |residence=
from the
Infobox person template, and I want to readdress it.
|birth_place=
should be removed as well.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
13:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC){{
City_of_Residence|name=Kim Kardashian|city=Los Angeles}}
→ Kim Kardashian is a resident of Los Angeles |residence=
in this case could go to help voters be more informed about the candidates running in their district. Note that congressional candidates may have never held office before and thus would be using the Infobox person template.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
14:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
|birth_place=
?
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
13:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
|residence=
parameter, but only if its scope could be extremely limited. If you run a search for pages using the parameter (hastemplate:"infobox person" insource:/residence *= *[A-Za-z\[]/
), plenty come up,(see reply) but I am inclined to say that inclusion criteria should resemble either: Only include actual buildings or grounds well known as the subject’s residence, as Carinhall is for Hermann Göringor at least the looser standard,
Only include places strongly associated with the subject as their residence, as with Andre Agassi, who lives in Las Vegas; obviously both examples have flaws, but hopefully this prompts clearer debate. In either case, we would also reinforce that any place listed must be discussed in the article body, not merely cited, so perhaps for some, this could be a third, looser standard. Note that both examples there already have their residence listed because they use more field-specific infoboxes. At the end of this, I would prefer to see most person infoboxes aligned one way or the other; that may mean notifying more template talk pages now, or holding another mass-RfC after this one’s conclusion. — HTGS ( talk) 22:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Do you really think that sportspeople should be treated differently to any other bio using infobox person?
{{
infobox building}}
, or as a module in this infobox under {{
infobox officeholder}}
. Now, if you wanted to argue about including this parameter into infobox officeholder, I'd be interested to hear the arguments on both sides of that one.
Van
Isaac, GHTV
cont
WpWS
03:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Please add a "burial date" parameter, since there is a "burial place" parameter. 2606:8700:A:2:8136:3331:CEB:FD6C ( talk) 16:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
|interment=
would be far from trivial for the individuals whose dates of death are unknown due to being kidnapped and murdered, lost, or held hostage. For those people and their families do you think they consider the date of interment “trivia” or the only thing they have? Think before you write something so ignorant.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
09:54, 7 May 2024 (UTC)|Interment=
would be a very nice addition to the infobox parameters! :) I think that what a lot of people on here who think date of death is sufficient don’t understand is that some people aren’t so lucky to know the date their loved one died. If we have parameters for when someone went missing.. I think haven’t a parameter for interment would be a very nice addition that would validate the experiences of many people. Would you be alright with me starting an official discussion on this for editors to take a vote?
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
09:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
|interment=
would be nice.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
10:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)|Interment=
fit with "funeral" or "cremation"? Which is the more significant event? Thanks.
Martinevans123 (
talk)
10:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
|interment=
would be better than |burial=
as OP suggested is that interment can cover both burial and the spreading of one’s ashes. It could also be used to refer to
sky and
tree burials. It just means the returning of one’s remains to nature and the earth.
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
10:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Ignoring the fact that not everyone chooses burial, I don't see why anything like this belongs in an infobox. The article body allows information to be added with flexibility available to fit the particular person/situation. O3000, Ret. ( talk) 11:29, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
With the |birth_place=
parameter having the corresponding |birth_date=
parameter and the |death_place=
parameter having the corresponding |death_date=
parameter, do you agree to have the |burial_place=
parameter given the corresponding |burial_date=
parameter?
4theloveofallthings (
talk)
15:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
|burial_place=
is significant because it's where people would go to see the grave, but the burial date has only historical significance, and just not enough of it to justify infobox bloat.
Sdkb
talk
16:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
internment_date=
parameter that only functioned when death_date=
was unspecified, there might be an argument worth supporting there. But burial_date
is just not up to snuff neither as a parameter name nor as an unconditionally displayed value. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Vanisaac (
talk •
contribs)
18:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)The date of birth on Chris Packham is correct but the age is calculating incorrectly - he's now 63 but the template still puts his age at 62. Is this a known bug? Waggers TALK 12:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
{{
birth date and age}}
, you can see that the age only updates when the page cache is purged.
Van
Isaac, GHTV
cont
WpWS
13:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
This template only allows one parameter for the person's office and for similar things. I propose that we add parameters such as office2, term2, predecessor2, and successor2 (with as many numbers as wanted) for people who are known for multiple positions or held the same position multiple times. This would match Template:Infobox officeholder.
For example, this would be useful for Bob Iger, who served as CEO of Disney from 2005 to 2020 and again from 2022 to present. The current infobox lists both Michael Eisner and Bob Chapek in the "predecessor" parameter, making it unclear which preceded which term. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 ( talk | contribs) 04:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Would it be good to have clearer guidelines on the usage of the "criminal charges" parameter? Criminal charges appear to be much like wedding engagements. They are short-lived preludes to longterm events: Convictions or marriages (write your own joke :)
Considering charges can be dropped against someone, would making the guidelines clearer to limit charges to only those that actually resulted in criminal prosecution? (Whether acquitted or found guilty.) If not, what examples could there be of someone having a lead-level fact relating to a criminal charge that was dropped and didn't result in criminal proceedings (that are not currently ongoing)? 92.12.76.138 ( talk) 18:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
On BLPs of independent voters, is it more appropriate to fill the "party" parameter with "independent" or leave it blank? My cursory understanding of the parameter's usage is to note party affiliations, which independent voters do not have. This has been disputed on Sara Haines. KyleJoan talk 07:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
The education and alma mater parameters can cause a bit of confusion amongst some editors, especially with regards to listing colleges/universities some of the subjects attended. One of the instructions in the infobox documentation currently states "It is usually not relevant to include either [the education or alma mater] parameter for non-graduates, but article talk page consensus may conclude otherwise, as perhaps at Bill Gates." For example, Jeffrey Wright left New York University before completing his master's degree and Robert Frost didn't receive any degrees from Dartmouth College or Harvard University.
My questions are: should we use the alma mater or education parameter if the subject didn't earn a degree and (if not), how should we go about it? Also, which parameter should we use if the subject has attended multiple universities (such as Peter Weller, Bridgit Mendler, etc.)? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 03:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
|education=
.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
03:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)This template is in my opinion a good candidate for Wikidata integration. Wikidata has some quite detailed information on many people, and that information could automatically populate this infobox.
I would maybe caveat that, unlike some other infoboxes, this one should probably require referenced Wikidata entries to avoid some potential problems in the case of WP:BLP. David Palmer// cloventt ( talk) 08:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Template talk:Listen voice. —
andrybak (
talk)
20:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Reliable sources are reporting that Eiko Masuyama died at age 89 calculated in East Asian age reckoning: [5], [6]. The Wikipedia article uses Template:Death date and age to calculate the age as 88. Should we create an age template for these cases when age is reported in East Asian age reckoning and use both in the article? Mika1h ( talk) 13:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Currently, the label for a person’s parents displays as “Parent” or “Parents”, depending on how many notable parents the person has. Does anyone else feel like “Parent”—for those very common cases where only one of the parents is notable—carries too much implication that the person only had one parent? The label obviously carries the implication of “[Notable] parent” to us editors, but the general readership is unlikely to get that.
Potential solution: Where the bio has only one notable parent, and that parent is in the |mother=
or |father=
field, we could display “Father” or “Mother” instead of parent. Obviously where the situation is less standard (non-binary parent, same sex parents) |parents=
and “Parent” or “Parents” would still be used, but for the common singularly notable parent, we would encourage |mother=
or |father=
. —
HTGS (
talk)
06:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi, looking at Lauren Ridloff and Ryan Condal, it looks like the text in "Spouse" is more to the left than other fields' text. Not sure if this is something that needs to be fixed? Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 20:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Recently, the nationality field disappeared from the Blank template with basic parameters yet it still appears in the Blank template with all parameters.
Several biographical / person articles utilize the Blank template with basic parameters and contain the nationality field.
Why was nationality removed? Should it be restored for consistency?
Thanks. Truthanado ( talk) 21:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
The documentation for {{
Infobox person}}
states that |alma_mater=
is a more concise alternative to (not addition to)
|education=
. However, it is very common to see both parameters used in a single infobox. Usually, in such cases, |education=
is used for secondary education and |alma_mater=
is used for tertiary education. At other times, |education=
is used for the degree and |alma_mater=
for the university that awarded it.
One possibility is to change the template so that |alma_mater=
is not displayed if |education=
is used. (Something similar has been done with |nationality=
and |birth_place=
for {{
Infobox officeholder}}
. It has been discussed here:
Template talk:Infobox officeholder/Archive 25#Has the "nationality" parameter disappeared?)
A second possibility is to abolish |alma_mater=
altogether.
Does anyone else have an opinion on this matter? Is it worth starting an RfC? If I wanted to start an RfC, where would be the best place to do so? Khiikiat ( talk) 07:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
i think it is relevant especially for public figures or celebrities Gsgdd ( talk) 03:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC)