The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron (
talk) 06:53, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Comment: That's the most interesting hook I can think of. Feel free to propose an ALT.
Created by
Piotrus (
talk). Self-nominated at 10:20, 10 November 2021 (UTC).
The article is long enough and new. However, red wls, i.e. Zbigniew Kasprzak, are overlinked. Also English language sources would be better to support the hook. Another problem is that the statement in the hook is given in a footnote instead of in the main text which seems not to be appropriate.
Egeymi (
talk) 17:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
Egeymi, but please note for future reference that hooks do not have to be sourced to English, or even online, sources. Also, you can use Google Translate to translate foreign-language websites used to source a hook.
Piotrus, since Egeymi is inexperienced at doing reviews, I will just this once complete the review on his behalf. The issue I have with the article is that the title is "Hans (comic book)" but the titular character is referred to throughout as "Yans". Title and text should be the same. Thanks,
Gatoclass (
talk) 20:40, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Gatoclass, Thank you both for the comments. I fixed Yans->Hans and put the text from the note into the body. For the record, I don't think English sources for this information exist at all; French might be better but I don't speak French well enough to do a search in it (I also asked for someone to help with obtaining a French book which seems to have a chapter on Hans but it seems to be stalled...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 20:47, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Gatoclass, thank you very much for helping me and
Piotrus, thank you. Best,
Egeymi (
talk) 02:09, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
New enough and long enough, looks plagiarism free, hook is sourced and reasonably interesting. QPQ is done. AGF verified to a foreign language book.
Gatoclass (
talk) 05:23, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
@
Piotrus: The sentence right before the last one in that paragraph—the hook has to be cited at the end of the sentence, could that be cited too?
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 20:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Theleekycauldron, Ah, I see. There entire second half of that paragraph is sourced to the three sources cited at the end of the paragraph ("[4][9][10]"). We can copy the three footnotes to the preceding sentence, but will it look good? It might be a form of overcite. While I myself authored the essay
Wikipedia:Why most sentences should be cited, when the content has a logical flow, I don't think need to do so. Still, if you really think this is needed, I am fine doing so. So, copy 4910 to the sentence that preceedes it? Yay or nay? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 10:21, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron (
talk) 06:53, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Comment: That's the most interesting hook I can think of. Feel free to propose an ALT.
Created by
Piotrus (
talk). Self-nominated at 10:20, 10 November 2021 (UTC).
The article is long enough and new. However, red wls, i.e. Zbigniew Kasprzak, are overlinked. Also English language sources would be better to support the hook. Another problem is that the statement in the hook is given in a footnote instead of in the main text which seems not to be appropriate.
Egeymi (
talk) 17:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
Egeymi, but please note for future reference that hooks do not have to be sourced to English, or even online, sources. Also, you can use Google Translate to translate foreign-language websites used to source a hook.
Piotrus, since Egeymi is inexperienced at doing reviews, I will just this once complete the review on his behalf. The issue I have with the article is that the title is "Hans (comic book)" but the titular character is referred to throughout as "Yans". Title and text should be the same. Thanks,
Gatoclass (
talk) 20:40, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Gatoclass, Thank you both for the comments. I fixed Yans->Hans and put the text from the note into the body. For the record, I don't think English sources for this information exist at all; French might be better but I don't speak French well enough to do a search in it (I also asked for someone to help with obtaining a French book which seems to have a chapter on Hans but it seems to be stalled...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 20:47, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Gatoclass, thank you very much for helping me and
Piotrus, thank you. Best,
Egeymi (
talk) 02:09, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
New enough and long enough, looks plagiarism free, hook is sourced and reasonably interesting. QPQ is done. AGF verified to a foreign language book.
Gatoclass (
talk) 05:23, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
@
Piotrus: The sentence right before the last one in that paragraph—the hook has to be cited at the end of the sentence, could that be cited too?
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 20:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Theleekycauldron, Ah, I see. There entire second half of that paragraph is sourced to the three sources cited at the end of the paragraph ("[4][9][10]"). We can copy the three footnotes to the preceding sentence, but will it look good? It might be a form of overcite. While I myself authored the essay
Wikipedia:Why most sentences should be cited, when the content has a logical flow, I don't think need to do so. Still, if you really think this is needed, I am fine doing so. So, copy 4910 to the sentence that preceedes it? Yay or nay? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 10:21, 21 November 2021 (UTC)