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The small flag (referring to the Ukrainian People's Republic) has the colors in the wrong order. Please fix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.133.11.104 ( talk) 21:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
"After World War II it was internationally recognised as an independent state in its own right (with a seat in the United Nations)." It was? There any documentation of this? Thanx 68.39.174.150 03:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
here is an article off of the united nations page that should clear up your doubt
http://www.un.int/ukraine/Ukr-UN/Ukraine-UN/Ukraine%20in%20the%20UN.htm
I simplified the following lengthy
to
Which says basically the same, but without POVish weasels: "symbolical meaning" (twice!), "little more", etc. Also, the permanent seat sentence is irrelevant here: there is nothing special that Ukraine, like nearly all otther countries, didn't have perm. Also, "at that time's reality" is a useless (and I would say misleading) phrase, since Ukrainian SSR never had any independent say. mikka (t) 02:52, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
The original phrase might have been sloppily written but the new one misses a significant point that the vote Stalin gave to Ukraine (in UN General Assembly) meant little since there were 100+ members and the General assembly resolutions are meaningless anyway since there is no enforcement mechanism. OTOH, the resolutions of Security Counsil, where the seat belonged to the USSR itself, did matter, hence the vote there too. That what I wanted to say originally. -- Irpen 03:00, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I will see what I can find out. Also, the Ukr SSR had its own Ministry of Foreign Affairs, perhaps just to support the UN mission. I don't know. Many states had consulates in Kiev, but so did they in Leningrad, so it doesn't mean much international recognition. It is interesting to find out to what international organization Ukraine belonged as a separate member. I will see whether I can find anything out.
On the side note, I am sorry if it hurts the General Assembly, but its resolutions were indeed meeningless. Every year or so it passed (and maybe still the passes) resolutions condemning Israel for something and it has no effect and they are not ever remembered. OTOH, the single UN Security Council Resolution 242 despite being so old is being brought up all the time despite this particular resolution had no enforcement mechanism. -- Irpen 03:27, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Please explain at talk what in particular is doubted by "underefenced" tag? Entire article? Something particular? Thanks! -- Irpen 23:40, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
I think this article diserves to be of "Top" importance to the Wikiproject Ukraine, it is literally Ukraine. Why would it not be ranked at the top of the importance scale? Any ideas? Bogdan 00:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I added the reqmap tag because the current map isn't very helpful. It looks like it was scanned from an atlas; can anyone replace it with a better one, perhaps one with clearly readable text? Bry9000 ( talk) 17:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
It seems that given that the formal name for this nation was "Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic", the soviet prefix abbreviation (-"SSR") shouldn't be in the full article name. Therefore, I propose to move the article to its full form, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. We wouldn't have an article about North Korea titled "DPRK", would we? -- Micahbrwn ( talk) 10:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (ССР - Украины) was stablished in 25.july.1938 in the 1st session of Supreme Soviet of Ukrainian SSR (Верховного Совета Украинской ССР). Before it, the name was Ukrainian Popular Republic (Украинской Народной Республики) (11 december 1917). The same as Tsentralnaya Rada or Directorate are know now!!!! (known as Tsentralnaya Rada or Directorate... or worse words). -- Shliahov ( talk) 23:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Uk SSR does not belong to Category:Holodomor for the same reason as USA does not belong to Category:September 11 attacks. ( Igny ( talk) 15:23, 26 October 2009 (UTC))
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The phrase has been unsourced since September 2014. Enough is enough, if collectivisation is good, why British or US farmes don't collectivise on a voluntary basis? Xx236 ( talk) 09:11, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Can someone clarify to me what part of the Ukrainian SSR is today a part of Poland? Or Moldova?--BLACK FUTURE ( tlk2meh) 18:31, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
From what I understand, although Ukraine had declared independence in 1991, it still used the existing 1978 Ukrainian SSR constitution based on the fact that 12 of the 15 post-Soviet states used their respective Soviet constitutions from 1978. Can anyone ratify this issue? Wrestlingring ( talk) 17:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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Hey guys, I think I had finished translating the Ukrainian SSR article from the Ukrainian language to English. Can I do major changes to it?
For consistencies sake, should the Ukraine / the Ukrainian National Republic forces be referred to as 'nationalists' or as 'republicans'? It's tricky to me since in fighting with the Whites they were republicans and against the monarchy, but in contxt against the Bolsheviks they were for a nation state vs. communist state, right? --BLACK FUTURE ( tlk2meh) 14:21, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
"Within the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, the name carried unofficial status for eastern parts of bigger Kyiv Voivodeship and was overshadowed by the more common Little Poland. Since the partition of Poland, the name had generally disappeared and was replaced with the Russian imposed name "Little Russia"."
The section envisages rather controversial point of view, while it does not contain a single link to any source to prove such standpoint. More specifcially, the name "Ukraine" was widely used in the area and was more common than "Little Poland". Actually, the name "Ukraine" with regard to the territory was commonly used by Polish poets from that area in their poems in XVIIIth century, while "Malopolska" (Little Poland) was used in respect of territories of the Krakow and Ruthenian voivedoships. Another point is that the name "Little Russia" is known from the Medieval times and was mentioned many times in Byzantine/Greek chronicles with regard to this territory. Saying that it was imposed after partitions in order to replace "more common" name "Little Poland" is highly controversial, if not to say that it is simply a manipulation.
If "the Ukrainian position is that the usage of "'The Ukraine' is incorrect both grammatically and politically" (quote from the wiki text) why does this sentence then use the article?
what is up with the units on this graph >>>>
The way it's structured now it says there where 87 million tractors and 2 billion horses in ukraine in 1938— blindlynx 02:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
@ Fijipedia and Blindlynx: Why are the stress marks being added back in? I don't see why it should matter that I cited an essay and not a policy. You restored incorrect spelling. Abbyjjjj96 ( talk) 03:51, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Please can someone clarify this period, for example by putting a bracket behind that figure, like (19yy-19yy)? Very unclear and the various start/end dates don't add up to 72 years. Thank you very much. 95.146.56.63 ( talk) 09:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Kyiv is Kyiv, not Kiev. Kharkiv is Kharkiv, not Kharkov. СолонийБурякУСпідниці ( talk) 04:08, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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The small flag (referring to the Ukrainian People's Republic) has the colors in the wrong order. Please fix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.133.11.104 ( talk) 21:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
"After World War II it was internationally recognised as an independent state in its own right (with a seat in the United Nations)." It was? There any documentation of this? Thanx 68.39.174.150 03:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
here is an article off of the united nations page that should clear up your doubt
http://www.un.int/ukraine/Ukr-UN/Ukraine-UN/Ukraine%20in%20the%20UN.htm
I simplified the following lengthy
to
Which says basically the same, but without POVish weasels: "symbolical meaning" (twice!), "little more", etc. Also, the permanent seat sentence is irrelevant here: there is nothing special that Ukraine, like nearly all otther countries, didn't have perm. Also, "at that time's reality" is a useless (and I would say misleading) phrase, since Ukrainian SSR never had any independent say. mikka (t) 02:52, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
The original phrase might have been sloppily written but the new one misses a significant point that the vote Stalin gave to Ukraine (in UN General Assembly) meant little since there were 100+ members and the General assembly resolutions are meaningless anyway since there is no enforcement mechanism. OTOH, the resolutions of Security Counsil, where the seat belonged to the USSR itself, did matter, hence the vote there too. That what I wanted to say originally. -- Irpen 03:00, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I will see what I can find out. Also, the Ukr SSR had its own Ministry of Foreign Affairs, perhaps just to support the UN mission. I don't know. Many states had consulates in Kiev, but so did they in Leningrad, so it doesn't mean much international recognition. It is interesting to find out to what international organization Ukraine belonged as a separate member. I will see whether I can find anything out.
On the side note, I am sorry if it hurts the General Assembly, but its resolutions were indeed meeningless. Every year or so it passed (and maybe still the passes) resolutions condemning Israel for something and it has no effect and they are not ever remembered. OTOH, the single UN Security Council Resolution 242 despite being so old is being brought up all the time despite this particular resolution had no enforcement mechanism. -- Irpen 03:27, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Please explain at talk what in particular is doubted by "underefenced" tag? Entire article? Something particular? Thanks! -- Irpen 23:40, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
I think this article diserves to be of "Top" importance to the Wikiproject Ukraine, it is literally Ukraine. Why would it not be ranked at the top of the importance scale? Any ideas? Bogdan 00:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I added the reqmap tag because the current map isn't very helpful. It looks like it was scanned from an atlas; can anyone replace it with a better one, perhaps one with clearly readable text? Bry9000 ( talk) 17:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
It seems that given that the formal name for this nation was "Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic", the soviet prefix abbreviation (-"SSR") shouldn't be in the full article name. Therefore, I propose to move the article to its full form, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. We wouldn't have an article about North Korea titled "DPRK", would we? -- Micahbrwn ( talk) 10:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (ССР - Украины) was stablished in 25.july.1938 in the 1st session of Supreme Soviet of Ukrainian SSR (Верховного Совета Украинской ССР). Before it, the name was Ukrainian Popular Republic (Украинской Народной Республики) (11 december 1917). The same as Tsentralnaya Rada or Directorate are know now!!!! (known as Tsentralnaya Rada or Directorate... or worse words). -- Shliahov ( talk) 23:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Uk SSR does not belong to Category:Holodomor for the same reason as USA does not belong to Category:September 11 attacks. ( Igny ( talk) 15:23, 26 October 2009 (UTC))
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The phrase has been unsourced since September 2014. Enough is enough, if collectivisation is good, why British or US farmes don't collectivise on a voluntary basis? Xx236 ( talk) 09:11, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Can someone clarify to me what part of the Ukrainian SSR is today a part of Poland? Or Moldova?--BLACK FUTURE ( tlk2meh) 18:31, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
From what I understand, although Ukraine had declared independence in 1991, it still used the existing 1978 Ukrainian SSR constitution based on the fact that 12 of the 15 post-Soviet states used their respective Soviet constitutions from 1978. Can anyone ratify this issue? Wrestlingring ( talk) 17:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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Hey guys, I think I had finished translating the Ukrainian SSR article from the Ukrainian language to English. Can I do major changes to it?
For consistencies sake, should the Ukraine / the Ukrainian National Republic forces be referred to as 'nationalists' or as 'republicans'? It's tricky to me since in fighting with the Whites they were republicans and against the monarchy, but in contxt against the Bolsheviks they were for a nation state vs. communist state, right? --BLACK FUTURE ( tlk2meh) 14:21, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
"Within the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, the name carried unofficial status for eastern parts of bigger Kyiv Voivodeship and was overshadowed by the more common Little Poland. Since the partition of Poland, the name had generally disappeared and was replaced with the Russian imposed name "Little Russia"."
The section envisages rather controversial point of view, while it does not contain a single link to any source to prove such standpoint. More specifcially, the name "Ukraine" was widely used in the area and was more common than "Little Poland". Actually, the name "Ukraine" with regard to the territory was commonly used by Polish poets from that area in their poems in XVIIIth century, while "Malopolska" (Little Poland) was used in respect of territories of the Krakow and Ruthenian voivedoships. Another point is that the name "Little Russia" is known from the Medieval times and was mentioned many times in Byzantine/Greek chronicles with regard to this territory. Saying that it was imposed after partitions in order to replace "more common" name "Little Poland" is highly controversial, if not to say that it is simply a manipulation.
If "the Ukrainian position is that the usage of "'The Ukraine' is incorrect both grammatically and politically" (quote from the wiki text) why does this sentence then use the article?
what is up with the units on this graph >>>>
The way it's structured now it says there where 87 million tractors and 2 billion horses in ukraine in 1938— blindlynx 02:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
@ Fijipedia and Blindlynx: Why are the stress marks being added back in? I don't see why it should matter that I cited an essay and not a policy. You restored incorrect spelling. Abbyjjjj96 ( talk) 03:51, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Please can someone clarify this period, for example by putting a bracket behind that figure, like (19yy-19yy)? Very unclear and the various start/end dates don't add up to 72 years. Thank you very much. 95.146.56.63 ( talk) 09:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Kyiv is Kyiv, not Kiev. Kharkiv is Kharkiv, not Kharkov. СолонийБурякУСпідниці ( talk) 04:08, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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– To satisfy WP:COMMONNAME. In the decade after the Soviet Union disappeared and the subject underwent a WP:NAMECHANGE, the proposed name became the most commonly used in reliable sources. [1] It appears three times more commonly than the current title, and twice as often as the second-most common, Ukrainian SSR, [2] and since 2007 is more common than the two together. [3] — Michael Z. 16:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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