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The word "Tomyris" is directly related with "Temir/Demir" in all modern and historical Turkic languages and is directly connected with Tomyris' Turkic/Scythian roots. Please add that info. 212.252.139.110 ( talk) 22:20, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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talk) 11:36, 18 February 2021 (UTC)Your history revision based on the delusional premise of saying and even mentioning "azeris" dont prove the Tomyris, who ruled over "Iranian Sakas" was "a turkic queen because we found this on my dictionary"
Tomyris and the land she ruled back at that time was in fact inhabited by east iranians and left mostly intact even after the turkic invasions until the destruction of those cities and states under the hands of mongols and tatars which eventually lead to the creation of the mordern turkic states of "turkemenistan, uzbekistan" and others
(Which also makes me want to mention about how turks call other persians turks, despite the fact that there is no persian in the mordern age with a turkic name and many turks with persian names)
The prove of what i said above is the fact that there is no ancient city create in central asia that has turkic names and if turks were at such large numbers and did inhabit those areas, why did they all eventually became persianised?
Why is it only after the mongol invasions that name of "bukhara" became assiociated with turks? And even Turan which is mentioned in the persian epic as one of the sons of feraydun as tur? 2A02:CE0:2000:17D5:98DD:7538:ABBA:FCFC ( talk) 14:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Other than Herodotus's lavish account in order to give Cyrus a theatrical death, what other historicity that wasn't copied off of Herodotus's original account do we have? We have, I believe, four other accounts pertaining to Cyrus's death?
This article seems to regard her as factually existing.
She has no beginning other than being a foil to Cyrus and no aftermath. You'd imagine a figure like this would have other corroborating sources. Everything is "unknown" about her but yet Herodotus writes the dialogue and exchanges between these characters as if he were there.
I think the article needs to present itself similar to Achille's article. It may be considered mythology or legend, or perhaps there was a historical personality that was or inspired the character, similar to how the Amazons were invented through Scythian transfer. 142.198.101.242 ( talk) 21:48, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Tomyris differs from Hammurabi, Ashurbanipal, Ramses, and Cyrus mentioned above in that they ruled over Egypt or areas in Mesopotamia -- areas with long-established literacy. Tomyris ruled over illiterate peoples who were not Fertile Crescent adjacent, so the expectation of written records is much less. AnonMoos ( talk) 08:43, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I added an image from the National Trust as part of this pilot, more images are here Lajmmoore ( talk) 18:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
This page contradicts another: /info/en/?search=Cyrus_the_Great 98.221.230.206 ( talk) 01:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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The word "Tomyris" is directly related with "Temir/Demir" in all modern and historical Turkic languages and is directly connected with Tomyris' Turkic/Scythian roots. Please add that info. 212.252.139.110 ( talk) 22:20, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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DesertPipeline (
talk) 11:36, 18 February 2021 (UTC)Your history revision based on the delusional premise of saying and even mentioning "azeris" dont prove the Tomyris, who ruled over "Iranian Sakas" was "a turkic queen because we found this on my dictionary"
Tomyris and the land she ruled back at that time was in fact inhabited by east iranians and left mostly intact even after the turkic invasions until the destruction of those cities and states under the hands of mongols and tatars which eventually lead to the creation of the mordern turkic states of "turkemenistan, uzbekistan" and others
(Which also makes me want to mention about how turks call other persians turks, despite the fact that there is no persian in the mordern age with a turkic name and many turks with persian names)
The prove of what i said above is the fact that there is no ancient city create in central asia that has turkic names and if turks were at such large numbers and did inhabit those areas, why did they all eventually became persianised?
Why is it only after the mongol invasions that name of "bukhara" became assiociated with turks? And even Turan which is mentioned in the persian epic as one of the sons of feraydun as tur? 2A02:CE0:2000:17D5:98DD:7538:ABBA:FCFC ( talk) 14:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Other than Herodotus's lavish account in order to give Cyrus a theatrical death, what other historicity that wasn't copied off of Herodotus's original account do we have? We have, I believe, four other accounts pertaining to Cyrus's death?
This article seems to regard her as factually existing.
She has no beginning other than being a foil to Cyrus and no aftermath. You'd imagine a figure like this would have other corroborating sources. Everything is "unknown" about her but yet Herodotus writes the dialogue and exchanges between these characters as if he were there.
I think the article needs to present itself similar to Achille's article. It may be considered mythology or legend, or perhaps there was a historical personality that was or inspired the character, similar to how the Amazons were invented through Scythian transfer. 142.198.101.242 ( talk) 21:48, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Tomyris differs from Hammurabi, Ashurbanipal, Ramses, and Cyrus mentioned above in that they ruled over Egypt or areas in Mesopotamia -- areas with long-established literacy. Tomyris ruled over illiterate peoples who were not Fertile Crescent adjacent, so the expectation of written records is much less. AnonMoos ( talk) 08:43, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I added an image from the National Trust as part of this pilot, more images are here Lajmmoore ( talk) 18:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
This page contradicts another: /info/en/?search=Cyrus_the_Great 98.221.230.206 ( talk) 01:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)