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Sir Terry has been for a long time involved with the Society of Authors, including being Chair. The article should mention this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.189.150 ( talk) 09:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
"Known for his frequently comical work in the fantasy genre"? Quite a misleading understatement. This suggests that at least some of his work in the fantasy genre is deadly serious. That's not true. All of his output is consistently comical, with jokes coming reliably at least once in five sentences, although he is, of course, trying to combine this with suspense, drama, message, and conworld merits.-- 91.148.159.4 ( talk) 18:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
A list of published books should be added to this article. The same type of list can be found in articles for other authors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccon012 ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
It is so ironic that an article about a successful literary professional is itself so ploddingly and tediously written, and so bogged down by dreary minutiae, that one suspects some kind of earnest, literary trainspotter was behind its laboured construction.
It is so leaden, and there is too much of it, so one cannot contemplate any attempt to breathe some style into the great, lardy thing, therefore, this remains Pratchett's uninspired Wikipedia legacy. -- 174.16.20.36 ( talk) 08:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
there have been 2 feater films made now color of magic and the hog father if someone could update would be good thing Lurch42024 ( talk) 08:45, 8 May 2010 (UTC) i know i cant spell but i thought i would say something about the lack of menchen of the 2 movies that have been made and released Lurch42024 ( talk) 08:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello - they aren't "feature films" since they weren't shown at the cinema, they were television adaptations, and as such they ARE mentioned in that capacity under "Adaptations". Stephenb (Talk) 18:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I see, several months ago, someone replaced my copyright-free svg image of Terry's arms with a non-free image. That's cool if that's what the page wants, but Terry owns the right to the image that is there now. (I don't see anything that indicates he released it into the public domain.) My rendering of the arms only showed the shield because I don't have the skill to show any of the other elements, but when depicting arms, the shield is the only part that must be shown. There are many examples of this throughout wikipedia. Sorry for the long delay in commenting on this. Cheers. A1 Aardvark ( talk) 21:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
"Discworld novels often include a modern innovation and its introduction to the world's medieval setting, such as a public police force (Guards! Guards!), gun (Men at Arms), submarine (Jingo), cinema (Moving Pictures), investigative journalism (The Truth), the postal service (Going Postal, although the narrative describes a previous service that collapsed), or modern banking (Making Money). The resulting social upheaval serves as the setting for the main story and often inspires the title."
There are several errors here. While polices are depicted as rather modern in his works, it is far from a modern phenomena. Investigating journalism was around in the Roman empire, and possibly before that. The most efficient postal service documented is the one implemented by the Aztecs using stationed runners, that could deliver messages from border to border within a day. Modern banking is often considered invented by the Knights Templar, but there are evidence of baning dating back much further. In fact the earliest known laws (the Code of Hammurabi) incorporate regulations of banking. Of course Terry is known to give these services a modern look and feel, but they are far from modern innovations. Also there was guns around at the medieval period, but in Europe they was considered blasphemous and anyone using them would have been subject to a witch hunt. However after the Mongol empire of Genghis Khan spread into Europe using firearms, Europe realized that without firearmes there was no way to resist invading armies from outside the Christian world and even the popes personal guard was armed with the weapon. And on a side-note there was awesome hand-held flamethrowers utilizing "greek fire". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.112.38.78 ( talk) 22:32, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I concur that many of the things mentioned here like banking, guns, and post were possibly/probably in existance during the medieval period, or before, however i think it is accurate to say that modern connotations were given to his work. also the use of these things were not widespread. i think it should remain as it is. 52.212.145.55 ( talk) 00:19, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
If you look at the article for Broad Chalke, nr Salisbury, it's stated that Terry Pratchett lives there, and it's west-south-west of Salisbury. This article says he lives in a village north-west of Salisbury - which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.100.56 ( talk) 22:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
I've added Sir Terry's personal coat of arms. Cheers. A1 Aardvark ( talk) 09:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm no expert on heraldry, but the image of Pterry's arms looks *nothing* like the blazon (there's a joke in there somewhere, I know). Is there anyone qualified in the heraldic art that can verify that the image is correct? 207.216.8.30 ( talk) 18:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi I can't edit this myself I don't know why. Reference 115 ^ "Saurio interviews Terry Pratchett". laideafija.com.ar. no date. Retrieved 15 March 2008. has an old link. The new one is http://www.laideafija.com.ar/especiales/pratchett/PRATCHETT_interview.html
Also, the date of the interview is January 2002, in La Idea Fija #4. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignatzniemand ( talk • contribs) 05:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC) Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignatzniemand ( talk • contribs) 05:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
It says in the wikipaedia article on Terry Pratchett that he has shied away from "feature films". Perhaps that means that they have not been released in theaters, but I have seen four movies based on Diskworld novels, that I borrowed from the Minneapolis, MN central library. Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters were animated. Colour of Magic and Hogfather were made with live actors. Perhaps these were made for TV or direct to DVD, and thus don't qualify as "feature films" but I don't understand why they are not mentioned in the article. They are all worth seeing if you like Pratchett's work. ```` 11/23/2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.135.241.46 ( talk) 18:54, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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{{ Authority control}} in the article footer links library catalog data.
I have provided two formal references to the CILIP website (now refs #13, 14):
They are now underutilized for the mere fact that Pratchett won the 2001 Carnegie Medal. Three of the contemporary press releases feature Pratchett and The Educated Maurice .... One is the full transcript of his acceptance speech, for which this biography elsewhere cites a secondary source.
-- P64 ( talk) 19:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Writing career (now sec. 3) comprises two subsections without any general preface. The first is Awards, essentially a prose list. The second is Fandom. The heading "Writing career" is both misleading and odd when considered beside the next section heading "Writing".
Considering the contents I wonder whether "Writing" (now section 4) belongs in advance of both Interests (2) and "Writing career" (3).
-- P64 ( talk) 19:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Honestly, though I found a lot of fascinating tangential information, all I really came to this article for was a simple bibliography - a list of everything Pratchett has written. Isn't this standard Wikipedia procedure? - Jatopian ( talk) 10:23, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
'His latest Discworld book, Snuff, is the third-fastest-selling novel since records began in the United Kingdom, selling 55,000 copies in the first three days.'
The record is now redundant and should be changed to past tense (The Casual Vacancy sold 125,000 in three days), although I find the original claim itself dubious, since the later Harry Potter books sold millions in their first 24 hours, let alone three days.-- Allthestrongbowintheworld ( talk) 18:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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-- P64 ( talk) 23:58, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Could some fan look into the adaptations here and in Discworld, especially radio plays, and decide what belongs where, sort it, and provide references? Based on what i found at radiolistings.co.uk, the BBC plays could even be expanded into separate articles so that their titles no longer refer to the books... (Not sure if a stand alone articles are worth it, though). Thanks WikiHannibal ( talk) 23:57, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Just wondering why the adaptations section makes no mention of the several Boardgames? (dont have an account and have never posted before so unsure how to sign??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.215.173.242 ( talk) 00:37, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
I just finished reading Dodger and was a bit surprised to find it listed under "Children's novels". I don't know Terry's intention of the target audience, but without underestimating children's capabilities, I would think that many points within the story won't just be understood by children. Geziefer ( talk) 09:56, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
I am not sure if it is worth mentioning, but there is a species of spider named for Terry Pratchett, Anelosimus pratchetti. (Full disclosure, I just wrote that article). I am not sure if it warrants mention in this article, but thought it might be worth consideration. -- TeaDrinker ( talk) 02:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
I saw that Amazon use two different names for the The Long Earth #3. Both "The long childhood" and "The long Mars" are used. Is there anyone who knows which one is official, or is there a US/UK difference in the naming? Haaninjo ( talk) 14:02, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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Section "Life", subsection "Alzheimer's disease and death", Please change "Pratchett died on 12 March 2015 from final complications with Alzheimers, according to his publisher. Tweets from his account just after his death included one saying "Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night."" to: "Pratchett died on 12 March 2015 from final complications with Alzheimers, according to his publisher. Through his tweeter account, it was announced with three tweets: AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER. Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night. The End. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitris.m.stathis ( talk • contribs) 16:50, 12 March 2015
Done by someone else - this page has had over 80 edits in the last 3.5 hours - Arjayay ( talk) 18:41, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
to the mp3 with [ John Mullan] tells as Date the 18 December 2009, but the Guardian Website there says: 18 June 2010, the url seems to proof the 18 Dec 2009-Date but... I have learned, that this sometime is wrong -- Hartmann Schedel cheers 20:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Currently the Wiki page has it that Pratchett's daughter posted the tweets announcing her father's passing. According to this page, they were actually posted by his assistant, Rob Wilkins (the article mentions a statement from Pratchett's literary agent): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-31859675 -- 62.49.5.196 ( talk) 03:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Reference #53 appears cited as a source for a quote from Pratchett, but the cite is only a link to the Wikipedia page of the "Front Row" radio program. Please cite a verifiable source!
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Sorry but, instead of a fair and balanced view, this article appears to read more like the Terry Pratchett fan club. For there is little mention of his involvement in the BBC documentary Choosing to Die - nor the complaints that followed:
"This is pro-assisted suicide propaganda loosely dressed up as a documentary. The evidence is that the more you portray this, the more suicides you will have." Alistair Thompson, a spokesman for the Care Not Killing Alliance pressure group
"I think an opportunity had been bypassed of having a balanced programme – the thousands of people who use the hospice movement and who have a good and peaceful death, there was very little about them.” Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the former Bishop of Rochester
“As for the BBC, I wonder what the moral status is of exploiting a writer with a degenerative brain disease to nudge us towards a creepy change in the law – at our expense, of course.” Damian Thompson, Editor of Telegraph Blogs
Could not this article make more of this BBC 'documentary' and related issues? Might not this article address the issue of whether or not Terry Pratchett's brain disease had a negative impact on his views about death and dying? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.134.111 ( talk) 20:08, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
A movement has started to honor him via reference. An initial Reddit thread spawned a wide variety of ways to add the header after one redditor mourned the loss, quoting Going Postal. The BBC wrote a short article about the phenomenon. Indrora ( talk) 09:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
As with people that attempt to avoid real world upsetting their private lives, Terry Pratchett appears to display a certain dis-like of realism - or seeing the world as it is. Might not a section on any such lack-of-realism add depth and insight into Terry Pratchett's view of the world? Might it even highlight his Death Fixation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.44.109.90 ( talk) 21:47, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please change After his death, Pratchett's daughter Rhianna wrote in three tweets from her father's Twitter account: to After his death, Rob Wilkins wrote in their joint Twitter account @terryandrob:
Colin Smythe Personal knowledge as Sir Terry Pratchett's agent.
92.30.19.66 ( talk) 23:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
"Press Officer for the Central Electricity Generating Board in an area which covered three nuclear power stations."
The source cited for this paragraph says 4 stations not 3. As did TP on BBC Desert Island Disks at 23:15. As does the author's bio in (UK) editions of the first dozen or so Discworld novels. Hackneymartian ( talk) 17:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Is using surnames only a US affectation? Sir Terry was English, and that is the more usual way to refer to him in non-US English — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisboote ( talk • contribs) 10:10, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Little Britain
Apart from the die-hard Royal supporters, most modern Brits in 2015 find the idea of calling anyone 'Sir' a totally out-dated affectation. It is mainly the reactionaries that tend to believe titles impress the 'lower orders'. Since the title 'Sir' is out-of-step with the modern world, is not Wikipedia wise to avoid using it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.178.238 ( talk) 21:47, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
“Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality. Open your eyes, Look up to the skies and see…” Bohemian Rhapsody, Queen
Since Pratchett said he focused on fantasy because, "It is easier to bend the universe around the story", might it not be useful to highlight the ways people use fantasy to bend others to there views on the universe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.255.60 ( talk) 10:42, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
The article contains a quote from Twitter:
AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.
Terry took Death's arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.
The End.
Since the first part of that quote is clearly intended to be Discworld's Death "speaking" to Pratchett, I argue that it should be rendered in the typographic style used for Death's words in the Discworld books. As such, the first line should be:
AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.
or perhaps:
AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.
MOS:QUOTE states that "a quotation is not a facsimile
" and that formatting should be changed without comment when doing so does not obscure the meaning of the text. In this case, special formatting is, in a sense, part of the meaning of the text--in the Discworld stories, Death "speaks" in unquoted small-caps. That limitations of Twitter prevent the original from having that formatting should not prevent us on Wikipedia, where we can do such formatting, from using it.
Pathore (
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On a quick look at a couple of novels, I see that it looks like it's all small caps, not caps-and-small-caps. Having said that, my personal view - not that I am going to edit war over it - is that it is wrong, in an encyclopaedia article which is quoting Twitter, to attempt to reproduce the typeset style of a book. I don't think Wikipedia is under any obligation at all to have its typography dictated to it by an external publication, let alone to try too hard to reproduce what we think would have been done if Twitter's technical limitations permitted it. It seems a bit - uh, I hate to say this, and please excuse the apparent disrespect - it seems a bit fanboyish (sorry) of us to try to make the article look like the book - I'm just not clear why, exactly, an encyclopaedia would want to do this. I honestly think it would be wiser to just quote what Twitter said. And - I really should shut up in a minute! - on a completely separate tack I don't think it looks good in small caps. It looks - well, small, in a way that Death actually doesn't seem to in the books, so I think it's missing its target a bit anyway. Should we have a note to non-Pratchett-expert readers to explain the apparently strange typography? Erkkkk, I think not. They can read about it at Death (Discworld) if they are that riveted; I think the principle of least astonishment, or confusion, or something, means stick to all caps. But, as I say, no fisticuffs from me over this, and I am shutting up right now. Cheers DBaK ( talk) 12:27, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
The use of block capitals is a reference to how the character of Death speaks in Pratchett's works.Now that I look at it, that article also quotes these tweets--I'll make the same change there after we build consensus on whether all-small-caps, caps-and-small-caps or all-caps is most appropriate for the encyclopedia. Pathore ( talk) 22:04, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
The Death of Rats, like Death, speaks in small caps, but has a vocabulary consisting of words such as Squeak, Eek, Ik and Snh. Both use small-caps in the books (or so people say here), but Death uses actual words while the Death of Rats has speech that is only understood by the other character's responses. Consensus seems to be that, regardless of the exact typography used in the books, mixed caps-and-small-caps is most appropriate for quoting Discworld's Death in the encyclopedia. Pathore ( talk) 23:47, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I found a mod for a game called Oblivion, whose info page states that Terry Pratchett contributed very much to it ( http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28977/?). The info page was written by the mod author, and unfortunately it thus counts as a primary source. I was wondering if a podcast of the mod author mentioning Sir Terry's work on the mod, such as in the Morrowind Modding Interview series ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhUNP1i3k44), would be a valid reference?
Thanks for any input!
Solistide ( talk) 23:45, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Need a few more of his reference influences here, such as Brewers, Straight Dope, Phrase and Fable and Charles Panati. There are influences such as T H White and Lovecraft etc. not mentioned. Slightnostalgia ( talk) 17:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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Pratchett left a $100,000 scholarship to the University of South Australia - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-28/sir-terry-pratchett-scholarship-uni-sa/6809714. It's probably worth mentioning in the article. Perhaps a new "Legacy" section? Mitch Ames ( talk) 02:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, the practice of adding an article subject's nickname in quotes within the first mention of his/her full name has become common enough that many editors believe it is proper WP procedure. It is not, and it's a trend that is in need of reversal. If you look at WP:MOSBIO (and more specifically, MOS:FULLNAME) you will notice that that construction is never used, in any of the numerous examples. It is acceptable to add a professional name separately, after the dates, when that name is completely different from the birth name (example: Eric Arthur Blair (25 June 1903 – 21 January 1950), better known by his pen name George Orwell). It is even acceptable to add a nickname after the dates in the same manner if the origin of the nickname is not obvious (example: William Alexander Abbott (October 2, 1895 – April 24, 1974), known professionally as Bud Abbott); but it's rarely necessary if that version of the name already appears as the article title. Readers are not idiots, and should not be treated as such; in this case, we don't need to explain to them that "Terry" is short for "Terence". DoctorJoeE review transgressions/ talk to me! 05:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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No, you'll have clicked on a Wiki or Google link to get to the article, so won't necessarily be looking at the title first. It's patently ridiculous to expect the reader to have to look at an infobox for the first mention of Terry's name being Terry, rather than having the name Terry used every day be right there in the lead sentence. ALTNAME and MOS:NICKNAME need some common sense applied! Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:16, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
While I agree with the movement of the punctuation today - and it appears to be correct for the Engvar in which this article is written - the previous punctuation inside quotation marks was correct for American English lol. Newimpartial ( talk) 01:18, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.
Terry took Death's arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.
The End. [1]
The use of small capitals is a reference to how the character of Death speaks in Pratchett's works. [1]
The tweet in question does not use small capitals, it uses normal capitals. Small capitals may well have been used in the books, but they were not used in the twitter announcement. This is incorrect.
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"Seriously Relevant: Parody, Pastiche and Satire in Terry Pratchett’s Discworld Novels" a chapter in a 2018 Springer book Critical Approaches to Children's Literature. Note that it doesn't say that his early novels were parody, but " that the development of the Discworld novels is marked by a movement away from straightforward pastiche towards parody and travesty. Over time, the emphasis has shifted from the source text to the new text, and pastiche has been replaced by increasingly sophisticated parody and satire, which Pratchett uses to create a fantasy world with a very real and relevant edge to it."
Some but not all of the text is here. Doug Weller talk 14:29, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_t9LDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA145
will display page 145, PA146 will display 146 etc. Do that to read all pages. Regards
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Why 14:46, 6 September 2018 (UTC)Recently, Pratchett has become embroiled, posthumously, in a controversy where ' gender critical' activists have attempted to co-opt Pratchett as an assumed supporter of their cause; close associates and even his daughter have rebuked this claim. It's reached the media mainstream and op-eds and such have arisen. How, if at all, should this be included in the article? It's worth reminding of recency bias and our implicit drive to avoid it. DMT Biscuit ( talk) 16:19, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
I was surprised by the absence of the early Tiffany Aching books in the Children section. 173.178.67.88 ( talk) 19:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
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Been a while since a GAR nom. I have some problems with this article.
That's it. Would take some work to hopefully bring this back to status. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 18:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
I've just reorganised the article, with minor edits to certain paragraphs to avoid repetition. Main thing is moving his interests under the "Personal life" section (save for the award he sponsored in his final years, moved to "Career," and the posthumous one which is now under "Death and legacy") and the "Works" section which is now entirely under "Career." I notice there's several discussions going back many years that echo issues I have w/the article as it currently stands, and a couple no-one's mentioned yet, such as the introduction leaving a lot of key things out (Good Omens isn't mentioned at all in the article until the "desparately needs editing" list of collaborations.) Lot more work to be done, but this is a start, I feel. FreeBard42 ( talk) 15:49, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
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Sir Terry has been for a long time involved with the Society of Authors, including being Chair. The article should mention this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.189.150 ( talk) 09:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
"Known for his frequently comical work in the fantasy genre"? Quite a misleading understatement. This suggests that at least some of his work in the fantasy genre is deadly serious. That's not true. All of his output is consistently comical, with jokes coming reliably at least once in five sentences, although he is, of course, trying to combine this with suspense, drama, message, and conworld merits.-- 91.148.159.4 ( talk) 18:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
A list of published books should be added to this article. The same type of list can be found in articles for other authors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccon012 ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
It is so ironic that an article about a successful literary professional is itself so ploddingly and tediously written, and so bogged down by dreary minutiae, that one suspects some kind of earnest, literary trainspotter was behind its laboured construction.
It is so leaden, and there is too much of it, so one cannot contemplate any attempt to breathe some style into the great, lardy thing, therefore, this remains Pratchett's uninspired Wikipedia legacy. -- 174.16.20.36 ( talk) 08:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
there have been 2 feater films made now color of magic and the hog father if someone could update would be good thing Lurch42024 ( talk) 08:45, 8 May 2010 (UTC) i know i cant spell but i thought i would say something about the lack of menchen of the 2 movies that have been made and released Lurch42024 ( talk) 08:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello - they aren't "feature films" since they weren't shown at the cinema, they were television adaptations, and as such they ARE mentioned in that capacity under "Adaptations". Stephenb (Talk) 18:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I see, several months ago, someone replaced my copyright-free svg image of Terry's arms with a non-free image. That's cool if that's what the page wants, but Terry owns the right to the image that is there now. (I don't see anything that indicates he released it into the public domain.) My rendering of the arms only showed the shield because I don't have the skill to show any of the other elements, but when depicting arms, the shield is the only part that must be shown. There are many examples of this throughout wikipedia. Sorry for the long delay in commenting on this. Cheers. A1 Aardvark ( talk) 21:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
"Discworld novels often include a modern innovation and its introduction to the world's medieval setting, such as a public police force (Guards! Guards!), gun (Men at Arms), submarine (Jingo), cinema (Moving Pictures), investigative journalism (The Truth), the postal service (Going Postal, although the narrative describes a previous service that collapsed), or modern banking (Making Money). The resulting social upheaval serves as the setting for the main story and often inspires the title."
There are several errors here. While polices are depicted as rather modern in his works, it is far from a modern phenomena. Investigating journalism was around in the Roman empire, and possibly before that. The most efficient postal service documented is the one implemented by the Aztecs using stationed runners, that could deliver messages from border to border within a day. Modern banking is often considered invented by the Knights Templar, but there are evidence of baning dating back much further. In fact the earliest known laws (the Code of Hammurabi) incorporate regulations of banking. Of course Terry is known to give these services a modern look and feel, but they are far from modern innovations. Also there was guns around at the medieval period, but in Europe they was considered blasphemous and anyone using them would have been subject to a witch hunt. However after the Mongol empire of Genghis Khan spread into Europe using firearms, Europe realized that without firearmes there was no way to resist invading armies from outside the Christian world and even the popes personal guard was armed with the weapon. And on a side-note there was awesome hand-held flamethrowers utilizing "greek fire". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.112.38.78 ( talk) 22:32, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I concur that many of the things mentioned here like banking, guns, and post were possibly/probably in existance during the medieval period, or before, however i think it is accurate to say that modern connotations were given to his work. also the use of these things were not widespread. i think it should remain as it is. 52.212.145.55 ( talk) 00:19, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
If you look at the article for Broad Chalke, nr Salisbury, it's stated that Terry Pratchett lives there, and it's west-south-west of Salisbury. This article says he lives in a village north-west of Salisbury - which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.100.56 ( talk) 22:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
I've added Sir Terry's personal coat of arms. Cheers. A1 Aardvark ( talk) 09:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm no expert on heraldry, but the image of Pterry's arms looks *nothing* like the blazon (there's a joke in there somewhere, I know). Is there anyone qualified in the heraldic art that can verify that the image is correct? 207.216.8.30 ( talk) 18:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi I can't edit this myself I don't know why. Reference 115 ^ "Saurio interviews Terry Pratchett". laideafija.com.ar. no date. Retrieved 15 March 2008. has an old link. The new one is http://www.laideafija.com.ar/especiales/pratchett/PRATCHETT_interview.html
Also, the date of the interview is January 2002, in La Idea Fija #4. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignatzniemand ( talk • contribs) 05:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC) Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignatzniemand ( talk • contribs) 05:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
It says in the wikipaedia article on Terry Pratchett that he has shied away from "feature films". Perhaps that means that they have not been released in theaters, but I have seen four movies based on Diskworld novels, that I borrowed from the Minneapolis, MN central library. Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters were animated. Colour of Magic and Hogfather were made with live actors. Perhaps these were made for TV or direct to DVD, and thus don't qualify as "feature films" but I don't understand why they are not mentioned in the article. They are all worth seeing if you like Pratchett's work. ```` 11/23/2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.135.241.46 ( talk) 18:54, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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I have provided two formal references to the CILIP website (now refs #13, 14):
They are now underutilized for the mere fact that Pratchett won the 2001 Carnegie Medal. Three of the contemporary press releases feature Pratchett and The Educated Maurice .... One is the full transcript of his acceptance speech, for which this biography elsewhere cites a secondary source.
-- P64 ( talk) 19:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Writing career (now sec. 3) comprises two subsections without any general preface. The first is Awards, essentially a prose list. The second is Fandom. The heading "Writing career" is both misleading and odd when considered beside the next section heading "Writing".
Considering the contents I wonder whether "Writing" (now section 4) belongs in advance of both Interests (2) and "Writing career" (3).
-- P64 ( talk) 19:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Honestly, though I found a lot of fascinating tangential information, all I really came to this article for was a simple bibliography - a list of everything Pratchett has written. Isn't this standard Wikipedia procedure? - Jatopian ( talk) 10:23, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
'His latest Discworld book, Snuff, is the third-fastest-selling novel since records began in the United Kingdom, selling 55,000 copies in the first three days.'
The record is now redundant and should be changed to past tense (The Casual Vacancy sold 125,000 in three days), although I find the original claim itself dubious, since the later Harry Potter books sold millions in their first 24 hours, let alone three days.-- Allthestrongbowintheworld ( talk) 18:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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-- P64 ( talk) 23:58, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Could some fan look into the adaptations here and in Discworld, especially radio plays, and decide what belongs where, sort it, and provide references? Based on what i found at radiolistings.co.uk, the BBC plays could even be expanded into separate articles so that their titles no longer refer to the books... (Not sure if a stand alone articles are worth it, though). Thanks WikiHannibal ( talk) 23:57, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Just wondering why the adaptations section makes no mention of the several Boardgames? (dont have an account and have never posted before so unsure how to sign??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.215.173.242 ( talk) 00:37, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
I just finished reading Dodger and was a bit surprised to find it listed under "Children's novels". I don't know Terry's intention of the target audience, but without underestimating children's capabilities, I would think that many points within the story won't just be understood by children. Geziefer ( talk) 09:56, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
I am not sure if it is worth mentioning, but there is a species of spider named for Terry Pratchett, Anelosimus pratchetti. (Full disclosure, I just wrote that article). I am not sure if it warrants mention in this article, but thought it might be worth consideration. -- TeaDrinker ( talk) 02:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
I saw that Amazon use two different names for the The Long Earth #3. Both "The long childhood" and "The long Mars" are used. Is there anyone who knows which one is official, or is there a US/UK difference in the naming? Haaninjo ( talk) 14:02, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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Section "Life", subsection "Alzheimer's disease and death", Please change "Pratchett died on 12 March 2015 from final complications with Alzheimers, according to his publisher. Tweets from his account just after his death included one saying "Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night."" to: "Pratchett died on 12 March 2015 from final complications with Alzheimers, according to his publisher. Through his tweeter account, it was announced with three tweets: AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER. Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night. The End. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitris.m.stathis ( talk • contribs) 16:50, 12 March 2015
Done by someone else - this page has had over 80 edits in the last 3.5 hours - Arjayay ( talk) 18:41, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
to the mp3 with [ John Mullan] tells as Date the 18 December 2009, but the Guardian Website there says: 18 June 2010, the url seems to proof the 18 Dec 2009-Date but... I have learned, that this sometime is wrong -- Hartmann Schedel cheers 20:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Currently the Wiki page has it that Pratchett's daughter posted the tweets announcing her father's passing. According to this page, they were actually posted by his assistant, Rob Wilkins (the article mentions a statement from Pratchett's literary agent): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-31859675 -- 62.49.5.196 ( talk) 03:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Reference #53 appears cited as a source for a quote from Pratchett, but the cite is only a link to the Wikipedia page of the "Front Row" radio program. Please cite a verifiable source!
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Sorry but, instead of a fair and balanced view, this article appears to read more like the Terry Pratchett fan club. For there is little mention of his involvement in the BBC documentary Choosing to Die - nor the complaints that followed:
"This is pro-assisted suicide propaganda loosely dressed up as a documentary. The evidence is that the more you portray this, the more suicides you will have." Alistair Thompson, a spokesman for the Care Not Killing Alliance pressure group
"I think an opportunity had been bypassed of having a balanced programme – the thousands of people who use the hospice movement and who have a good and peaceful death, there was very little about them.” Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the former Bishop of Rochester
“As for the BBC, I wonder what the moral status is of exploiting a writer with a degenerative brain disease to nudge us towards a creepy change in the law – at our expense, of course.” Damian Thompson, Editor of Telegraph Blogs
Could not this article make more of this BBC 'documentary' and related issues? Might not this article address the issue of whether or not Terry Pratchett's brain disease had a negative impact on his views about death and dying? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.134.111 ( talk) 20:08, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
A movement has started to honor him via reference. An initial Reddit thread spawned a wide variety of ways to add the header after one redditor mourned the loss, quoting Going Postal. The BBC wrote a short article about the phenomenon. Indrora ( talk) 09:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
As with people that attempt to avoid real world upsetting their private lives, Terry Pratchett appears to display a certain dis-like of realism - or seeing the world as it is. Might not a section on any such lack-of-realism add depth and insight into Terry Pratchett's view of the world? Might it even highlight his Death Fixation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.44.109.90 ( talk) 21:47, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please change After his death, Pratchett's daughter Rhianna wrote in three tweets from her father's Twitter account: to After his death, Rob Wilkins wrote in their joint Twitter account @terryandrob:
Colin Smythe Personal knowledge as Sir Terry Pratchett's agent.
92.30.19.66 ( talk) 23:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
"Press Officer for the Central Electricity Generating Board in an area which covered three nuclear power stations."
The source cited for this paragraph says 4 stations not 3. As did TP on BBC Desert Island Disks at 23:15. As does the author's bio in (UK) editions of the first dozen or so Discworld novels. Hackneymartian ( talk) 17:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Is using surnames only a US affectation? Sir Terry was English, and that is the more usual way to refer to him in non-US English — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisboote ( talk • contribs) 10:10, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Little Britain
Apart from the die-hard Royal supporters, most modern Brits in 2015 find the idea of calling anyone 'Sir' a totally out-dated affectation. It is mainly the reactionaries that tend to believe titles impress the 'lower orders'. Since the title 'Sir' is out-of-step with the modern world, is not Wikipedia wise to avoid using it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.178.238 ( talk) 21:47, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
“Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality. Open your eyes, Look up to the skies and see…” Bohemian Rhapsody, Queen
Since Pratchett said he focused on fantasy because, "It is easier to bend the universe around the story", might it not be useful to highlight the ways people use fantasy to bend others to there views on the universe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.255.60 ( talk) 10:42, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
The article contains a quote from Twitter:
AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.
Terry took Death's arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.
The End.
Since the first part of that quote is clearly intended to be Discworld's Death "speaking" to Pratchett, I argue that it should be rendered in the typographic style used for Death's words in the Discworld books. As such, the first line should be:
AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.
or perhaps:
AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.
MOS:QUOTE states that "a quotation is not a facsimile
" and that formatting should be changed without comment when doing so does not obscure the meaning of the text. In this case, special formatting is, in a sense, part of the meaning of the text--in the Discworld stories, Death "speaks" in unquoted small-caps. That limitations of Twitter prevent the original from having that formatting should not prevent us on Wikipedia, where we can do such formatting, from using it.
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On a quick look at a couple of novels, I see that it looks like it's all small caps, not caps-and-small-caps. Having said that, my personal view - not that I am going to edit war over it - is that it is wrong, in an encyclopaedia article which is quoting Twitter, to attempt to reproduce the typeset style of a book. I don't think Wikipedia is under any obligation at all to have its typography dictated to it by an external publication, let alone to try too hard to reproduce what we think would have been done if Twitter's technical limitations permitted it. It seems a bit - uh, I hate to say this, and please excuse the apparent disrespect - it seems a bit fanboyish (sorry) of us to try to make the article look like the book - I'm just not clear why, exactly, an encyclopaedia would want to do this. I honestly think it would be wiser to just quote what Twitter said. And - I really should shut up in a minute! - on a completely separate tack I don't think it looks good in small caps. It looks - well, small, in a way that Death actually doesn't seem to in the books, so I think it's missing its target a bit anyway. Should we have a note to non-Pratchett-expert readers to explain the apparently strange typography? Erkkkk, I think not. They can read about it at Death (Discworld) if they are that riveted; I think the principle of least astonishment, or confusion, or something, means stick to all caps. But, as I say, no fisticuffs from me over this, and I am shutting up right now. Cheers DBaK ( talk) 12:27, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
The use of block capitals is a reference to how the character of Death speaks in Pratchett's works.Now that I look at it, that article also quotes these tweets--I'll make the same change there after we build consensus on whether all-small-caps, caps-and-small-caps or all-caps is most appropriate for the encyclopedia. Pathore ( talk) 22:04, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
The Death of Rats, like Death, speaks in small caps, but has a vocabulary consisting of words such as Squeak, Eek, Ik and Snh. Both use small-caps in the books (or so people say here), but Death uses actual words while the Death of Rats has speech that is only understood by the other character's responses. Consensus seems to be that, regardless of the exact typography used in the books, mixed caps-and-small-caps is most appropriate for quoting Discworld's Death in the encyclopedia. Pathore ( talk) 23:47, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I found a mod for a game called Oblivion, whose info page states that Terry Pratchett contributed very much to it ( http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28977/?). The info page was written by the mod author, and unfortunately it thus counts as a primary source. I was wondering if a podcast of the mod author mentioning Sir Terry's work on the mod, such as in the Morrowind Modding Interview series ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhUNP1i3k44), would be a valid reference?
Thanks for any input!
Solistide ( talk) 23:45, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Need a few more of his reference influences here, such as Brewers, Straight Dope, Phrase and Fable and Charles Panati. There are influences such as T H White and Lovecraft etc. not mentioned. Slightnostalgia ( talk) 17:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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Pratchett left a $100,000 scholarship to the University of South Australia - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-28/sir-terry-pratchett-scholarship-uni-sa/6809714. It's probably worth mentioning in the article. Perhaps a new "Legacy" section? Mitch Ames ( talk) 02:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, the practice of adding an article subject's nickname in quotes within the first mention of his/her full name has become common enough that many editors believe it is proper WP procedure. It is not, and it's a trend that is in need of reversal. If you look at WP:MOSBIO (and more specifically, MOS:FULLNAME) you will notice that that construction is never used, in any of the numerous examples. It is acceptable to add a professional name separately, after the dates, when that name is completely different from the birth name (example: Eric Arthur Blair (25 June 1903 – 21 January 1950), better known by his pen name George Orwell). It is even acceptable to add a nickname after the dates in the same manner if the origin of the nickname is not obvious (example: William Alexander Abbott (October 2, 1895 – April 24, 1974), known professionally as Bud Abbott); but it's rarely necessary if that version of the name already appears as the article title. Readers are not idiots, and should not be treated as such; in this case, we don't need to explain to them that "Terry" is short for "Terence". DoctorJoeE review transgressions/ talk to me! 05:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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No, you'll have clicked on a Wiki or Google link to get to the article, so won't necessarily be looking at the title first. It's patently ridiculous to expect the reader to have to look at an infobox for the first mention of Terry's name being Terry, rather than having the name Terry used every day be right there in the lead sentence. ALTNAME and MOS:NICKNAME need some common sense applied! Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:16, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
While I agree with the movement of the punctuation today - and it appears to be correct for the Engvar in which this article is written - the previous punctuation inside quotation marks was correct for American English lol. Newimpartial ( talk) 01:18, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.
Terry took Death's arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.
The End. [1]
The use of small capitals is a reference to how the character of Death speaks in Pratchett's works. [1]
The tweet in question does not use small capitals, it uses normal capitals. Small capitals may well have been used in the books, but they were not used in the twitter announcement. This is incorrect.
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"Seriously Relevant: Parody, Pastiche and Satire in Terry Pratchett’s Discworld Novels" a chapter in a 2018 Springer book Critical Approaches to Children's Literature. Note that it doesn't say that his early novels were parody, but " that the development of the Discworld novels is marked by a movement away from straightforward pastiche towards parody and travesty. Over time, the emphasis has shifted from the source text to the new text, and pastiche has been replaced by increasingly sophisticated parody and satire, which Pratchett uses to create a fantasy world with a very real and relevant edge to it."
Some but not all of the text is here. Doug Weller talk 14:29, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_t9LDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA145
will display page 145, PA146 will display 146 etc. Do that to read all pages. Regards
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Why 14:46, 6 September 2018 (UTC)Recently, Pratchett has become embroiled, posthumously, in a controversy where ' gender critical' activists have attempted to co-opt Pratchett as an assumed supporter of their cause; close associates and even his daughter have rebuked this claim. It's reached the media mainstream and op-eds and such have arisen. How, if at all, should this be included in the article? It's worth reminding of recency bias and our implicit drive to avoid it. DMT Biscuit ( talk) 16:19, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
I was surprised by the absence of the early Tiffany Aching books in the Children section. 173.178.67.88 ( talk) 19:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
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Been a while since a GAR nom. I have some problems with this article.
That's it. Would take some work to hopefully bring this back to status. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 18:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
I've just reorganised the article, with minor edits to certain paragraphs to avoid repetition. Main thing is moving his interests under the "Personal life" section (save for the award he sponsored in his final years, moved to "Career," and the posthumous one which is now under "Death and legacy") and the "Works" section which is now entirely under "Career." I notice there's several discussions going back many years that echo issues I have w/the article as it currently stands, and a couple no-one's mentioned yet, such as the introduction leaving a lot of key things out (Good Omens isn't mentioned at all in the article until the "desparately needs editing" list of collaborations.) Lot more work to be done, but this is a start, I feel. FreeBard42 ( talk) 15:49, 18 October 2023 (UTC)