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In the timeline section, Black Widow needs to be placed after Civil War as that is when the film takes place and Loki needs to be added after Endgame. Chiade ( talk) 14:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
I think it's safe to place Black Widow immediately after Civil War. Based on the story, it looks like it happens between the airport scene and final scene in Civil War where they break the Avengers out of the raft. — Starforce13 16:08, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
In Timeline part, updating details of Movie - Black Widow and Loki.
2016 - Black Widow (After Captain America: Civil War)
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2012 - Loki (after The Avengers)
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21 years laterin the film after the 1995 scene makes this pretty explicit. It also takes place just before the Raft escape at the end of Civil War, as evidenced by the ending. IronManCap ( talk) 13:13, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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The timeline does not include the television series ‘Loki’. I am unsure whether this occurs throughout the page as well. CameronHill0906 ( talk) 08:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
What criteria are we using to include this here? It is relevant to the MCU, but outside of the Deadpool 3 article should it really be included alongside Team Thor and the Simpsons short? Those were made by or with Marvel Studios but I don't think we have heard of any involvement from them for this Free Guy ad. - adamstom97 ( talk) 06:58, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
I have gone ahead and removed it per the consensus here. IronManCap ( talk) 21:30, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
noice – ChannelSpider ( talk) 20:04, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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In the area where you talk about the time line order. It does not match up with Disney Plus MCU timeline order. 2600:6C4A:7B7F:CA36:696E:FA11:43C7:90E6 ( talk) 03:18, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
I feel like this is one of the crucial information that people do look up (at least I do), including it in the table can help people find it easier. Syed Ahmed Qasim ( talk) 17:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, there are some things wrong on the "Animation" section, like Chris Pratt in it when he hasn't voiced Peter Quill in What If...? or some returning actors for that series not being included, like Paul Bettany for Vision. AxGRvS ( talk) 07:10, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, should we add Captain Marvel and Thaddeus Ross to the table? According to this: "This section includes characters who will appear or have appeared in at least three MCU films/series and received main billing credit in at least two franchises." William Hurt appeared in more than three films and received main billing in The Incredible Hulk, Captain America: Civil War and Black Widow. I'm not sure about Brie Larson but she is set to make her third appearance in The Marvels and received main billing in Captain Marvel and Avengers: Endgame. AxGRvS ( talk) 03:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, in the timeline portion, Ironman is set in 2010 and one of the sources for that is an article titled "Marvel has released an official timeline" that article references a timeline that was printed in "Marvel Studios: The First Ten Years." However, in all recent printings of that book both physical and digital, that timeline was actually pulled from the book, meaning that it is no longer a primary source for the information and any references to it are now outdated. I would like source "[96]" removed as it is no longer relevant and has since been removed from more recent publications of the primary source listed in the article. https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/nfpkqy/i_bought_marvel_studios_the_first_10_years_to_see/ This reddit page contains screenshots of the book itself to represent the timeline's removal. I believe in Marvel removing the timeline that it indicates that something is wrong with it and thus should not be depended on to support information in this wiki. DLE2800 ( talk) 20:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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In the introduction of the article, precise that: " Phase IV could be part of what will be called "The Multiverse Saga". With the series Loki and the future films Spider-Man: No Way Home and Doctor Strange in the Multivers of Madness, the next saga, after "The Infinity Saga", would be "The Multiverse Saga". "
Thank you ! Ardimus Sims ( talk) 21:37, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I would have a question about TFA placement.
I know it is placed on timeline as 1943-1945 based on that "official" timeline from the book and it is correct for Steve sections, but movie opens (after 2011 findings of Steve body) with March 1942 (as said in film itself on subtitle) scene with Red Skull getting Tesseract in Tønsberg. So shouldnt "TFA" rather be "1942-1945"?
Also about "placeholder" (commented) Hawkeye position on timeline, yeah it will be on Christmass as confirmed in interview, but based on photos from principal photography it will be in December 2024 (so along SM:NWH) not 2023.
On images in shop window can be seen "Happy New Year 2025" (image #2+#4)
https://twitter.com/JRennerNet/status/1334605950716669957
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Based on this and the winter setting, it's possible that Hawkeye will take place either in early 2025 or the winter of 2024.. I still think we should wait for something more solid, as CBR appears to be speculating. IronManCap ( talk) 10:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
The two Venom movies have been confirmed to be a apart of the MCU’s multiverse in Venom 2’s post credits scene. Should we create a new section for these movies to show that they are canon to the MCU? Or just put them in with the rest of the movies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:42:c080:1a60:9d96:92d:957d:adf3 ( talk) 15:46, 30 September, 2021 (UTC)
According to the Disney+ website, Black Widow happens chronologically after Black Panther. Then after Black Widow is Doctor Strange. Spiderman: Homecoming happens either before or after Black Panther. But since there are different articles and websites about this, and the Spiderman movies have not yet arrived at Disney+, but we can assume it happens before Spiderman. That would make the chronological order: Civil War - Black Panther - Spiderman: Homecoming - Black Widow - Doctor Strange - Thor Ragnarok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.116.26.56 ( talk) 21:44, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Looking at the nav menu for the MCU, I'm thinking it might be better to change the "TV series" tab under Phase Four to just "TV" or maybe even just "Disney+", since "TV series" implies they'll have multiple seasons like Loki and What If when in actuality most are miniseries, and the presence of the GOGT Holiday Special kind of mucks things up even further because it's a special, not a series of any kind. And specials fall in the category of "TV films", like...Hallmark movies lol. -- 2603:9000:CC02:4E00:442F:A63B:533E:A159 ( talk) 10:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
May you consider adding an award and nomination's section? Will probably be best as subsection of reception. - Cardace ( talk) 09:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
For those that have seen the film (and know from the info prior to release), it's just in "present day". This article on Insider surmises the events are in 2023. I'm personally a bit unsure of that myself, but didn't know if anyone else thinks we should use this source, which would mean it probably would go after WandaVision on the timeline. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 20:59, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
the year's likely 2023based on some details on the film. I think their speculation is accurate and they're most likely right, but it's still speculation. — El Millo ( talk) 21:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
POST-BLIP ANXIETY?is what it says, and Katy's mom says " Day of the Dead" for "this year". Either near the coming of November 2, 2023, or 2024. If it is indeed 2023, it would be before WandaVision. But i agree with Favre that the confirmation can come when it gets added to the Timeline Order, in the next 45 days. — ChannelSpider ( talk) 22:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Should the Disney+ order confirm its placement before FWS, that Screen Rant source is the best to use to source it. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Because per the discussion here, we as editors are believing its placement makes sense, but "Present Day" within the film can me a whole host of things, and consensus is to wait until its Disney+ release to fully confirm its location. WP:NORUSH. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
When you all are going to add it to the timeline.!? New viewers would think it's not part of MCU. Marvelouseditor6651 ( talk) 07:19, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Hawkeye’s Director, Rhys Thomas has confirmed Hawkeye takes place in 2024 and it was just a continuity error in the show. I guess we can add this to Codifying attempts as an error lol. https://twitter.com/rhysthom2/status/1463552241302835203?s=21 RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 22:29, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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Shangchi movie needs to be added to the graphical representation of MCU timeline 2600:1004:B0CD:BC6:6D1B:82FD:DBC6:4610 ( talk) 23:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
It feels weird that the older Spider-Man movies are not really listed at all. The DCEU page has its connections to the Arrowverse mentioned and they are much less important to the DCEU than the older Spider-Men are to the MCU. I just feel we should have a Expanded Setting subtopic talking about them and the Venom movies. 76.124.108.43 ( talk) 19:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you I did not notice the section that stated they reappeared. However I still think the topic should be renamed at least since it’s connections are to Spider-Man movies other than those included within Sony Spider-Man Universe (which is so far only the Venom movies) Maybe it could just be renamed connections to Sony properties? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.108.43 ( talk) 22:28, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Are the shows like Runaways, Helstrom, Daredevil, Defenders etc. canon MkIc ( talk) 20:39, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I definitely feel like this will need to be thought about just for the Netflix shows. Seems like it’s the same canon for them but I guess we will see. Hopefully the Hawkeye episode won’t make it just ambiguous. Yeah the rest are still up to debate. RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 05:47, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Man RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 21:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Since we know they are part of the MCU, why aren’t they listed here but on the MCU Television series article are. I’ve added them before but got removed. RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 21:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Yeah I’ve just realized that it was specifically for Phase 4, will add as its own part. I apologize, this is can just be archived. RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 23:55, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
Never mind I’m still confused, where would I put Non-Phase 4 shows since we don’t know? I put it here just now and said it wasn’t and was deleted due to not being in Phase 4. RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 00:31, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Why did we get rid of it? It was such a convenient summary of the MCU's history. I strongly propose that we bring it back. Rhosnes ( talk) 00:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
inexplicably removed, it was moved to List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films, where it currently is. This was done as part of a major restructuring of this article, which was getting too big to handle. — El Millo ( talk) 17:19, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
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ADD Movie "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings" (Release Date 2021 / Timeline Date 2020) to the timeline. ADD Series "LOKI" (Release Date 2021 / Timeline Date 2012) to the timeline. ArtsyFartSniffer ( talk) 15:23, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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The first MCU movie should be updated to be SpiderMan 2002 23.233.182.185 ( talk) 02:24, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
I have missed any discussions of this that may have happened in the last month or so, but I notice that Shang-Chi is not included in the timeline. This article lays out pretty well that the film must be set around April 2023 or April 2024, and the Disney+ timeline order sets it between FaWS and Hawkeye which would make it 2024. That means it should probably go between FaWS and Far From Home in our timeline, but that may be a bit WP:OR-y so if we don't want to use those we should at least be on the lookout for something that confirms it. - adamstom97 ( talk) 05:35, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Now that Eternals is on Disney+, it has been placed in the timeline after Shang-Chi and before Hawkeye. This would definitely set Shang-Chi in 2024, even before Far from Home. But I'm starting to suspect they're just placing the new releases in release order, even in the Timeline Order, except from Black Widow which is unequivocally a prequel. — El Millo ( talk) 22:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I think WP:NOBACKREF justifies removing the pointless subheader, "As depicted in the MCU". We could say that about most subsections in this article all about the MCU. Are we trying to prevent idiots from suddenly assuming it's about a different fictional or known universe now? If so, we're lowering the bar too far. For whatever reason, two editors want it to stay. Why?
And I just got here, so missed the agreement to intentionally hide Level 4 sections from the ToC. I Oppose it. Seems counterproductive to the classic spirit of easy information retrieval, especially with five lower levels mysteriously marked "Other". Discuss. InedibleHulk ( talk) 05:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Are we trying to prevent idiots from suddenly assuming it's about a different fictional or known universe now?seems almost like intentionally misunderstanding its purpose. What's mysterious about the subsections starting with "Other..."? It's not just "Other", they all say what "other" they're referring to. The reason to hide level-4 subheaders is because otherwise the table of contents gets too big. — El Millo ( talk) 06:06, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
We could change the heading to "As depicted on screen" if that is going to help avoid confusion. That is basically what we mean when we say "As depicted in the MCU". - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello! Would it be possible to add the table of films back into this page? Rather than listing them all in text? I feel like it's easier to read as a table and it's hard to go through the films here. Additionally, could the same be down for the Marvel Studios TV shows? Currently, there's not one place on Wikipedia where all the films and TV shows are listed in the same spot. You have to go to the films page for the table of films and then you need to separately go to the TV shows page to find those. It'd be great to have them in one place and the main MCU page feels right for it.
Also, I'd argue that the non-Marvel Studios TV shows (Netflix, ABC, etc) should be removed from this page. While they're connected to the MCU now, they're not produced by Marvel Studios. Or at the very least, it could be a note in the Marvel Studios TV show section. We don't list the Spider-Man or X-Men films on here, which are now backend canon, so I feel like the pre-Disney+ shows should get similar treatment. Or possibly it needs a "multi-verse" section to note these dotted line additions to the canon/universe story.
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.83.206.188 ( talk) 15:57, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
I know that we have visited this before, although I think it's worth discussing again. Currently on each MCU article page the character is referred to simply by his first name. There have been arguments for why this is accurate. However, during Hawkeye the character is officially "credited" as Thor Odinson. The scene I am referring to is when Clint Barton / Hawkeye visits a memorial for the Avengers in NYC. It lists each individual in the Avengers, and lists Thor as such. An image of this can be seen in the SR article here. As Marvel Studios and the MCU credits Thor as such... shouldn't these articles also show the same? I would further argue that Loki should be reevaluated. During the events of Loki, the TVA refers to him to various forms of Loki Laufeyson. Thoughts on both of these points?-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 16:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Should Marvel One-Shots, Team Thor and Peter’s to do list be apart of the timeline 92.236.253.249 ( talk) 92.236.253.249 ( talk) 23:56, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
@ El C: I may be incorrect, but did the change to full protection you made here "overwrite" the existing indefinite semi protection added in 2010 ( here)? If so, can that be restored? Wanted to ask you here before going through RPP. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:38, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Here. Was this hard? Gonnym ( talk) 15:24, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
The criteria for inclusion in the character table is "This section includes characters who will appear or have appeared in at least three MCU films/series AND received main billing credit in at least two franchises." That's AND, nor OR. So characters who have only appeared in television series (which is what is meant by "franchise", other examples being "feature films", "digital series", etc.) are not eligible for inclusion. Pretty basic. Rcarter555 ( talk) 17:42, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
By “different franchise” they mean the categories of “feature films”, “television series”, “digital series”, etc. Basically if they can’t be listed in two columns, they don’t go here.) isn't true. If that were actually the case, we would have to say "different media" instead of "different franchises", becuase otherwise is inaccurate and confusing. Second, check Erik Selvig for example, who is included in the table and has only appeared in films, which is proof that by "franchise" we do not mean "medium" but franchise, just as Thor is a franchise and The Avengers is another franchise. In the same fashion, seasons being equivalent to films, and series not being direct sequels of each other, they are considered to be different franchises as well, making Daredevil one franchise and Jessica Jones another, for example. Read this discussion, where consensus was formed to focus on those recurring characters that appeared in three films and/or series and received main billing for at least two of those, because focusing just on different media appearances favored the inclusion of minor characters over main characters such as Tony Stark, who at the time wasn't confirmed to appear in anything other than films. — El Millo ( talk) 20:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
too unwieldy, then we can discuss a potential plan to make adjustments as needed for the future, but as it stands currently, the table and criteria are working and the expansions to it have been in accordance with the established criteria. I personally would not support making any changes to the table criteria without rationale reason stating this current version has an issue. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 23:50, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
This section includes characters who will appear or have appeared in at least three MCU films/series and received main billing credit in at least two franchises. If a character is in the list which hasn't received main billing credit in two franchises (main billing credit is not the same as appearing) then they don't belong there OR the criteria should be changed. Gonnym ( talk) 09:51, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
I don't think it's improperly tabled. The table at Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Four#Recurring cast and characters is formatted in the same way, counting appearances in franchises but separating in columns by media, and including recurring characters regardless of whether they appear in different kinds of media. — El Millo ( talk) 01:21, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Pinging @ Favre1fan93, Starforce13, and Adamstom.97, who also participated in the last discussion about this, for more input. — El Millo ( talk) 17:26, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
So what's up with this? AxGRvS ( talk) 17:02, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
I feel with the various variants/alternate characters we've seen so far with Loki, What If, No Way Home, and now Multiverse of Madness, a dedicated "Multiverse" section (around where "Timeline" is) might be justifiable. Partially, because this bit added by Trailblazer101 on Earth-838 doesn't feel the best with the 19999 and new 616 info. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 22:01, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
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change first MCU film to The Incredible Hulk 2601:403:C201:F030:9566:4E93:92DB:9CB5 ( talk) 08:08, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
With every new project, it seems like The Direct (usually an unreliable source) is the only site that makes an article about where the project is on the Disney+ timeline and including such listing in an article. For these instances only, given the site is literally pulling the material from Disney+, not citing it to a Reddit or Twitter user, do we feel it would be ok to include them as reference here? I'm leaning towards slightly yes, again given what is being reported on, but still believe in other instances The Direct should not be used. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 14:45, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
I would like to make a small change from this:
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This separates out Phases 1 and 2. - RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 02:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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help page).In the timeline, you have it as Falcon and the winter soldier, shang chi then eternals. But thats the wrong timeline order. Its should go Eternals (2023) Shang Chi (2024) falcon and the winter soldier (2024) as eternals is late 2023, shang chi is mid may-april and falcon and the winter soldier is may 2024 92.9.56.95 ( talk) 23:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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I would like to know what do you think about this ScreenRant article regarding Moon Knight and its placement in the Disney+ timeline https://screenrant.com/moon-knight-mcu-timeline-moon-phases-2025/
Also, do you think Doctor Strange 2's recent placement in Disney+ is wrong? (I personally do)
And for the last, do you think we shouldn't trust 100% in what Disney+ says? (based on other previous mistakes) AxGRvS ( talk) 10:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
The official Doctor Strange account tweeted acknowledging the Disney+ timeline placement before Hawkeye. So, it's safe to say this isn't a mistake. (I believe this is the first time a Marvel account has ever acknowledged the Disney+ timeline, probably because they anticipated the disbelief.) So, I think we can restore it. We might also want to update any 2025 references to Fall 2024. cc @ Favre1fan93, Facu-el Millo, AxGRvS, and ZooBlazer:. Thanks. — Starforce13 03:48, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Disney+ Japan has added Spider-Man: Far From Home to its timeline (after The Falcon and the Winter Soldier), here's an article from The Direct: https://thedirect.com/article/spider-man-far-from-home-mcu-timeline-disney AxGRvS ( talk) 17:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
I added that 'The Incredible Hulk' is available in Disney+ Japan but it's not included on the timeline, which I think it's notable for being the only Marvel Studios film to not be included on the D+ timeline. However, it was reverted. I would know if you think it's notable for adding it again. AxGRvS ( talk) 14:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
While the MCU TV shows from ABC, Netflix, etc seem to be referenced in the body of the article, they are all missing from the diagram. I thought that it may just be showing movies, but it also includes Wandavision, Hawkeye, etc. Is there a reason AOS, Daredevil, and these other shows are excluded from the timeline? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheriffjt ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93: Are we sure we can’t just take Ragnarok (which takes place in 2017) and add 8 years to that? Even when the Disney+ timeline adds LaT eventually it’ll still be vague as to which year it took place in. The reference of Thor and Jane breaking up in Ragnarok is probably a hint it occurred recently that year, which would set LaT in 2025. Normally I would take Taiti’s comments of being five years after Endgame but that was a mistranslation and doesn’t match Thor’s timeframe. So what do we do? MarioProtIV ( talk/ contribs) 18:16, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
"A and B, therefore, C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published the same argument concerning the topic of the article. — El Millo ( talk) 06:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
In that particular case, the film is clear about him being right and her being wrong, since she's not sure and ambiguous about it and he's sure, unambiguous and detailed, plus it's the meaning of the joke that he still isn't over her. I repeat, whenever reliable sources speculate by connecting dots, essentially what would be WP:SYNTH if we did it, it's acceptable to use it. But, because it is still speculation, we can use our editorial discretion when it's clear their logic doesn't hold up, when they're taking stuff from the comics without justification, etc. — El Millo ( talk) 23:00, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
In Cultural Impact section, Sony's Spider-Man universe was added but not WB's The Batman shared universe.
It's mentioned clearly that The Batman is intended to launch a Batman shared universe, with two sequels planned and two spin-off television series in development.
So can we add The Batman universe inside WB section of cultural impact? Ashokkumar047 ( talk) 04:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
The Timeline section is a bit cluttered and tough to read, particularly the timeline graphic. Should we consider updating the graphic to remove the One-Shots, as there are only 4 and this would make the graphic easier to read? ThanosDidSomeThingsWrong19 ( talk) 18:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
According to the list indicator, it "includes characters who will appear or have appeared in at least three MCU films/series and received main billing credit in at least two franchises". Natalie Portman only received main billing in the Thor franchise, so I don't think she would be included on the table. AxGRvS ( talk) 18:13, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
I think those are many characters to include on the table. AxGRvS ( talk) 01:58, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
main billing credit. I don't think it's wise to add this many characters, and it's not wise to take into account whether they're "title" characters or not. — El Millo ( talk) 06:28, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Peter's To-Do List isnt on the timeline thing? Inva1idWord ( talk) 01:46, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
On the MCU Timeline, you have every single movie and show... almost every show? Where is Loki on the timeline? 2601:1C0:CD00:1C20:8F83:B611:DE86:E90 ( talk) 02:06, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Here is a ref for the Wakanda Forever placement according to Nate Moore for when it's time to add it. -- Zoo ( talk) 19:26, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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In the timeline section, Black Widow needs to be placed after Civil War as that is when the film takes place and Loki needs to be added after Endgame. Chiade ( talk) 14:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
I think it's safe to place Black Widow immediately after Civil War. Based on the story, it looks like it happens between the airport scene and final scene in Civil War where they break the Avengers out of the raft. — Starforce13 16:08, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
In Timeline part, updating details of Movie - Black Widow and Loki.
2016 - Black Widow (After Captain America: Civil War)
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21 years laterin the film after the 1995 scene makes this pretty explicit. It also takes place just before the Raft escape at the end of Civil War, as evidenced by the ending. IronManCap ( talk) 13:13, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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The timeline does not include the television series ‘Loki’. I am unsure whether this occurs throughout the page as well. CameronHill0906 ( talk) 08:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
What criteria are we using to include this here? It is relevant to the MCU, but outside of the Deadpool 3 article should it really be included alongside Team Thor and the Simpsons short? Those were made by or with Marvel Studios but I don't think we have heard of any involvement from them for this Free Guy ad. - adamstom97 ( talk) 06:58, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
I have gone ahead and removed it per the consensus here. IronManCap ( talk) 21:30, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
noice – ChannelSpider ( talk) 20:04, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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In the area where you talk about the time line order. It does not match up with Disney Plus MCU timeline order. 2600:6C4A:7B7F:CA36:696E:FA11:43C7:90E6 ( talk) 03:18, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
I feel like this is one of the crucial information that people do look up (at least I do), including it in the table can help people find it easier. Syed Ahmed Qasim ( talk) 17:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, there are some things wrong on the "Animation" section, like Chris Pratt in it when he hasn't voiced Peter Quill in What If...? or some returning actors for that series not being included, like Paul Bettany for Vision. AxGRvS ( talk) 07:10, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, should we add Captain Marvel and Thaddeus Ross to the table? According to this: "This section includes characters who will appear or have appeared in at least three MCU films/series and received main billing credit in at least two franchises." William Hurt appeared in more than three films and received main billing in The Incredible Hulk, Captain America: Civil War and Black Widow. I'm not sure about Brie Larson but she is set to make her third appearance in The Marvels and received main billing in Captain Marvel and Avengers: Endgame. AxGRvS ( talk) 03:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, in the timeline portion, Ironman is set in 2010 and one of the sources for that is an article titled "Marvel has released an official timeline" that article references a timeline that was printed in "Marvel Studios: The First Ten Years." However, in all recent printings of that book both physical and digital, that timeline was actually pulled from the book, meaning that it is no longer a primary source for the information and any references to it are now outdated. I would like source "[96]" removed as it is no longer relevant and has since been removed from more recent publications of the primary source listed in the article. https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/nfpkqy/i_bought_marvel_studios_the_first_10_years_to_see/ This reddit page contains screenshots of the book itself to represent the timeline's removal. I believe in Marvel removing the timeline that it indicates that something is wrong with it and thus should not be depended on to support information in this wiki. DLE2800 ( talk) 20:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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In the introduction of the article, precise that: " Phase IV could be part of what will be called "The Multiverse Saga". With the series Loki and the future films Spider-Man: No Way Home and Doctor Strange in the Multivers of Madness, the next saga, after "The Infinity Saga", would be "The Multiverse Saga". "
Thank you ! Ardimus Sims ( talk) 21:37, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I would have a question about TFA placement.
I know it is placed on timeline as 1943-1945 based on that "official" timeline from the book and it is correct for Steve sections, but movie opens (after 2011 findings of Steve body) with March 1942 (as said in film itself on subtitle) scene with Red Skull getting Tesseract in Tønsberg. So shouldnt "TFA" rather be "1942-1945"?
Also about "placeholder" (commented) Hawkeye position on timeline, yeah it will be on Christmass as confirmed in interview, but based on photos from principal photography it will be in December 2024 (so along SM:NWH) not 2023.
On images in shop window can be seen "Happy New Year 2025" (image #2+#4)
https://twitter.com/JRennerNet/status/1334605950716669957
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Based on this and the winter setting, it's possible that Hawkeye will take place either in early 2025 or the winter of 2024.. I still think we should wait for something more solid, as CBR appears to be speculating. IronManCap ( talk) 10:49, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
The two Venom movies have been confirmed to be a apart of the MCU’s multiverse in Venom 2’s post credits scene. Should we create a new section for these movies to show that they are canon to the MCU? Or just put them in with the rest of the movies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:42:c080:1a60:9d96:92d:957d:adf3 ( talk) 15:46, 30 September, 2021 (UTC)
According to the Disney+ website, Black Widow happens chronologically after Black Panther. Then after Black Widow is Doctor Strange. Spiderman: Homecoming happens either before or after Black Panther. But since there are different articles and websites about this, and the Spiderman movies have not yet arrived at Disney+, but we can assume it happens before Spiderman. That would make the chronological order: Civil War - Black Panther - Spiderman: Homecoming - Black Widow - Doctor Strange - Thor Ragnarok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.116.26.56 ( talk) 21:44, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Looking at the nav menu for the MCU, I'm thinking it might be better to change the "TV series" tab under Phase Four to just "TV" or maybe even just "Disney+", since "TV series" implies they'll have multiple seasons like Loki and What If when in actuality most are miniseries, and the presence of the GOGT Holiday Special kind of mucks things up even further because it's a special, not a series of any kind. And specials fall in the category of "TV films", like...Hallmark movies lol. -- 2603:9000:CC02:4E00:442F:A63B:533E:A159 ( talk) 10:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
May you consider adding an award and nomination's section? Will probably be best as subsection of reception. - Cardace ( talk) 09:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
For those that have seen the film (and know from the info prior to release), it's just in "present day". This article on Insider surmises the events are in 2023. I'm personally a bit unsure of that myself, but didn't know if anyone else thinks we should use this source, which would mean it probably would go after WandaVision on the timeline. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 20:59, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
the year's likely 2023based on some details on the film. I think their speculation is accurate and they're most likely right, but it's still speculation. — El Millo ( talk) 21:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
POST-BLIP ANXIETY?is what it says, and Katy's mom says " Day of the Dead" for "this year". Either near the coming of November 2, 2023, or 2024. If it is indeed 2023, it would be before WandaVision. But i agree with Favre that the confirmation can come when it gets added to the Timeline Order, in the next 45 days. — ChannelSpider ( talk) 22:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Should the Disney+ order confirm its placement before FWS, that Screen Rant source is the best to use to source it. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Because per the discussion here, we as editors are believing its placement makes sense, but "Present Day" within the film can me a whole host of things, and consensus is to wait until its Disney+ release to fully confirm its location. WP:NORUSH. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
When you all are going to add it to the timeline.!? New viewers would think it's not part of MCU. Marvelouseditor6651 ( talk) 07:19, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Hawkeye’s Director, Rhys Thomas has confirmed Hawkeye takes place in 2024 and it was just a continuity error in the show. I guess we can add this to Codifying attempts as an error lol. https://twitter.com/rhysthom2/status/1463552241302835203?s=21 RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 22:29, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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Shangchi movie needs to be added to the graphical representation of MCU timeline 2600:1004:B0CD:BC6:6D1B:82FD:DBC6:4610 ( talk) 23:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
It feels weird that the older Spider-Man movies are not really listed at all. The DCEU page has its connections to the Arrowverse mentioned and they are much less important to the DCEU than the older Spider-Men are to the MCU. I just feel we should have a Expanded Setting subtopic talking about them and the Venom movies. 76.124.108.43 ( talk) 19:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you I did not notice the section that stated they reappeared. However I still think the topic should be renamed at least since it’s connections are to Spider-Man movies other than those included within Sony Spider-Man Universe (which is so far only the Venom movies) Maybe it could just be renamed connections to Sony properties? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.108.43 ( talk) 22:28, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Are the shows like Runaways, Helstrom, Daredevil, Defenders etc. canon MkIc ( talk) 20:39, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I definitely feel like this will need to be thought about just for the Netflix shows. Seems like it’s the same canon for them but I guess we will see. Hopefully the Hawkeye episode won’t make it just ambiguous. Yeah the rest are still up to debate. RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 05:47, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Man RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 21:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Since we know they are part of the MCU, why aren’t they listed here but on the MCU Television series article are. I’ve added them before but got removed. RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 21:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Yeah I’ve just realized that it was specifically for Phase 4, will add as its own part. I apologize, this is can just be archived. RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 23:55, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
Never mind I’m still confused, where would I put Non-Phase 4 shows since we don’t know? I put it here just now and said it wasn’t and was deleted due to not being in Phase 4. RobbyB3ll4s ( talk) 00:31, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Why did we get rid of it? It was such a convenient summary of the MCU's history. I strongly propose that we bring it back. Rhosnes ( talk) 00:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
inexplicably removed, it was moved to List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films, where it currently is. This was done as part of a major restructuring of this article, which was getting too big to handle. — El Millo ( talk) 17:19, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
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ADD Movie "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings" (Release Date 2021 / Timeline Date 2020) to the timeline. ADD Series "LOKI" (Release Date 2021 / Timeline Date 2012) to the timeline. ArtsyFartSniffer ( talk) 15:23, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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The first MCU movie should be updated to be SpiderMan 2002 23.233.182.185 ( talk) 02:24, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
I have missed any discussions of this that may have happened in the last month or so, but I notice that Shang-Chi is not included in the timeline. This article lays out pretty well that the film must be set around April 2023 or April 2024, and the Disney+ timeline order sets it between FaWS and Hawkeye which would make it 2024. That means it should probably go between FaWS and Far From Home in our timeline, but that may be a bit WP:OR-y so if we don't want to use those we should at least be on the lookout for something that confirms it. - adamstom97 ( talk) 05:35, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Now that Eternals is on Disney+, it has been placed in the timeline after Shang-Chi and before Hawkeye. This would definitely set Shang-Chi in 2024, even before Far from Home. But I'm starting to suspect they're just placing the new releases in release order, even in the Timeline Order, except from Black Widow which is unequivocally a prequel. — El Millo ( talk) 22:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I think WP:NOBACKREF justifies removing the pointless subheader, "As depicted in the MCU". We could say that about most subsections in this article all about the MCU. Are we trying to prevent idiots from suddenly assuming it's about a different fictional or known universe now? If so, we're lowering the bar too far. For whatever reason, two editors want it to stay. Why?
And I just got here, so missed the agreement to intentionally hide Level 4 sections from the ToC. I Oppose it. Seems counterproductive to the classic spirit of easy information retrieval, especially with five lower levels mysteriously marked "Other". Discuss. InedibleHulk ( talk) 05:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Are we trying to prevent idiots from suddenly assuming it's about a different fictional or known universe now?seems almost like intentionally misunderstanding its purpose. What's mysterious about the subsections starting with "Other..."? It's not just "Other", they all say what "other" they're referring to. The reason to hide level-4 subheaders is because otherwise the table of contents gets too big. — El Millo ( talk) 06:06, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
We could change the heading to "As depicted on screen" if that is going to help avoid confusion. That is basically what we mean when we say "As depicted in the MCU". - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello! Would it be possible to add the table of films back into this page? Rather than listing them all in text? I feel like it's easier to read as a table and it's hard to go through the films here. Additionally, could the same be down for the Marvel Studios TV shows? Currently, there's not one place on Wikipedia where all the films and TV shows are listed in the same spot. You have to go to the films page for the table of films and then you need to separately go to the TV shows page to find those. It'd be great to have them in one place and the main MCU page feels right for it.
Also, I'd argue that the non-Marvel Studios TV shows (Netflix, ABC, etc) should be removed from this page. While they're connected to the MCU now, they're not produced by Marvel Studios. Or at the very least, it could be a note in the Marvel Studios TV show section. We don't list the Spider-Man or X-Men films on here, which are now backend canon, so I feel like the pre-Disney+ shows should get similar treatment. Or possibly it needs a "multi-verse" section to note these dotted line additions to the canon/universe story.
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.83.206.188 ( talk) 15:57, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
I know that we have visited this before, although I think it's worth discussing again. Currently on each MCU article page the character is referred to simply by his first name. There have been arguments for why this is accurate. However, during Hawkeye the character is officially "credited" as Thor Odinson. The scene I am referring to is when Clint Barton / Hawkeye visits a memorial for the Avengers in NYC. It lists each individual in the Avengers, and lists Thor as such. An image of this can be seen in the SR article here. As Marvel Studios and the MCU credits Thor as such... shouldn't these articles also show the same? I would further argue that Loki should be reevaluated. During the events of Loki, the TVA refers to him to various forms of Loki Laufeyson. Thoughts on both of these points?-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 16:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Should Marvel One-Shots, Team Thor and Peter’s to do list be apart of the timeline 92.236.253.249 ( talk) 92.236.253.249 ( talk) 23:56, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
@ El C: I may be incorrect, but did the change to full protection you made here "overwrite" the existing indefinite semi protection added in 2010 ( here)? If so, can that be restored? Wanted to ask you here before going through RPP. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:38, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Here. Was this hard? Gonnym ( talk) 15:24, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
The criteria for inclusion in the character table is "This section includes characters who will appear or have appeared in at least three MCU films/series AND received main billing credit in at least two franchises." That's AND, nor OR. So characters who have only appeared in television series (which is what is meant by "franchise", other examples being "feature films", "digital series", etc.) are not eligible for inclusion. Pretty basic. Rcarter555 ( talk) 17:42, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
By “different franchise” they mean the categories of “feature films”, “television series”, “digital series”, etc. Basically if they can’t be listed in two columns, they don’t go here.) isn't true. If that were actually the case, we would have to say "different media" instead of "different franchises", becuase otherwise is inaccurate and confusing. Second, check Erik Selvig for example, who is included in the table and has only appeared in films, which is proof that by "franchise" we do not mean "medium" but franchise, just as Thor is a franchise and The Avengers is another franchise. In the same fashion, seasons being equivalent to films, and series not being direct sequels of each other, they are considered to be different franchises as well, making Daredevil one franchise and Jessica Jones another, for example. Read this discussion, where consensus was formed to focus on those recurring characters that appeared in three films and/or series and received main billing for at least two of those, because focusing just on different media appearances favored the inclusion of minor characters over main characters such as Tony Stark, who at the time wasn't confirmed to appear in anything other than films. — El Millo ( talk) 20:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
too unwieldy, then we can discuss a potential plan to make adjustments as needed for the future, but as it stands currently, the table and criteria are working and the expansions to it have been in accordance with the established criteria. I personally would not support making any changes to the table criteria without rationale reason stating this current version has an issue. Trailblazer101 ( talk) 23:50, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
This section includes characters who will appear or have appeared in at least three MCU films/series and received main billing credit in at least two franchises. If a character is in the list which hasn't received main billing credit in two franchises (main billing credit is not the same as appearing) then they don't belong there OR the criteria should be changed. Gonnym ( talk) 09:51, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
I don't think it's improperly tabled. The table at Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Four#Recurring cast and characters is formatted in the same way, counting appearances in franchises but separating in columns by media, and including recurring characters regardless of whether they appear in different kinds of media. — El Millo ( talk) 01:21, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Pinging @ Favre1fan93, Starforce13, and Adamstom.97, who also participated in the last discussion about this, for more input. — El Millo ( talk) 17:26, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
So what's up with this? AxGRvS ( talk) 17:02, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
I feel with the various variants/alternate characters we've seen so far with Loki, What If, No Way Home, and now Multiverse of Madness, a dedicated "Multiverse" section (around where "Timeline" is) might be justifiable. Partially, because this bit added by Trailblazer101 on Earth-838 doesn't feel the best with the 19999 and new 616 info. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 22:01, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
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change first MCU film to The Incredible Hulk 2601:403:C201:F030:9566:4E93:92DB:9CB5 ( talk) 08:08, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
With every new project, it seems like The Direct (usually an unreliable source) is the only site that makes an article about where the project is on the Disney+ timeline and including such listing in an article. For these instances only, given the site is literally pulling the material from Disney+, not citing it to a Reddit or Twitter user, do we feel it would be ok to include them as reference here? I'm leaning towards slightly yes, again given what is being reported on, but still believe in other instances The Direct should not be used. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 14:45, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
I would like to make a small change from this:
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This separates out Phases 1 and 2. - RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 02:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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help page).In the timeline, you have it as Falcon and the winter soldier, shang chi then eternals. But thats the wrong timeline order. Its should go Eternals (2023) Shang Chi (2024) falcon and the winter soldier (2024) as eternals is late 2023, shang chi is mid may-april and falcon and the winter soldier is may 2024 92.9.56.95 ( talk) 23:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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I would like to know what do you think about this ScreenRant article regarding Moon Knight and its placement in the Disney+ timeline https://screenrant.com/moon-knight-mcu-timeline-moon-phases-2025/
Also, do you think Doctor Strange 2's recent placement in Disney+ is wrong? (I personally do)
And for the last, do you think we shouldn't trust 100% in what Disney+ says? (based on other previous mistakes) AxGRvS ( talk) 10:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
The official Doctor Strange account tweeted acknowledging the Disney+ timeline placement before Hawkeye. So, it's safe to say this isn't a mistake. (I believe this is the first time a Marvel account has ever acknowledged the Disney+ timeline, probably because they anticipated the disbelief.) So, I think we can restore it. We might also want to update any 2025 references to Fall 2024. cc @ Favre1fan93, Facu-el Millo, AxGRvS, and ZooBlazer:. Thanks. — Starforce13 03:48, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Disney+ Japan has added Spider-Man: Far From Home to its timeline (after The Falcon and the Winter Soldier), here's an article from The Direct: https://thedirect.com/article/spider-man-far-from-home-mcu-timeline-disney AxGRvS ( talk) 17:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
I added that 'The Incredible Hulk' is available in Disney+ Japan but it's not included on the timeline, which I think it's notable for being the only Marvel Studios film to not be included on the D+ timeline. However, it was reverted. I would know if you think it's notable for adding it again. AxGRvS ( talk) 14:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
While the MCU TV shows from ABC, Netflix, etc seem to be referenced in the body of the article, they are all missing from the diagram. I thought that it may just be showing movies, but it also includes Wandavision, Hawkeye, etc. Is there a reason AOS, Daredevil, and these other shows are excluded from the timeline? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheriffjt ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93: Are we sure we can’t just take Ragnarok (which takes place in 2017) and add 8 years to that? Even when the Disney+ timeline adds LaT eventually it’ll still be vague as to which year it took place in. The reference of Thor and Jane breaking up in Ragnarok is probably a hint it occurred recently that year, which would set LaT in 2025. Normally I would take Taiti’s comments of being five years after Endgame but that was a mistranslation and doesn’t match Thor’s timeframe. So what do we do? MarioProtIV ( talk/ contribs) 18:16, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
"A and B, therefore, C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published the same argument concerning the topic of the article. — El Millo ( talk) 06:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
In that particular case, the film is clear about him being right and her being wrong, since she's not sure and ambiguous about it and he's sure, unambiguous and detailed, plus it's the meaning of the joke that he still isn't over her. I repeat, whenever reliable sources speculate by connecting dots, essentially what would be WP:SYNTH if we did it, it's acceptable to use it. But, because it is still speculation, we can use our editorial discretion when it's clear their logic doesn't hold up, when they're taking stuff from the comics without justification, etc. — El Millo ( talk) 23:00, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
In Cultural Impact section, Sony's Spider-Man universe was added but not WB's The Batman shared universe.
It's mentioned clearly that The Batman is intended to launch a Batman shared universe, with two sequels planned and two spin-off television series in development.
So can we add The Batman universe inside WB section of cultural impact? Ashokkumar047 ( talk) 04:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
The Timeline section is a bit cluttered and tough to read, particularly the timeline graphic. Should we consider updating the graphic to remove the One-Shots, as there are only 4 and this would make the graphic easier to read? ThanosDidSomeThingsWrong19 ( talk) 18:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
According to the list indicator, it "includes characters who will appear or have appeared in at least three MCU films/series and received main billing credit in at least two franchises". Natalie Portman only received main billing in the Thor franchise, so I don't think she would be included on the table. AxGRvS ( talk) 18:13, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
I think those are many characters to include on the table. AxGRvS ( talk) 01:58, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
main billing credit. I don't think it's wise to add this many characters, and it's not wise to take into account whether they're "title" characters or not. — El Millo ( talk) 06:28, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Peter's To-Do List isnt on the timeline thing? Inva1idWord ( talk) 01:46, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
On the MCU Timeline, you have every single movie and show... almost every show? Where is Loki on the timeline? 2601:1C0:CD00:1C20:8F83:B611:DE86:E90 ( talk) 02:06, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Here is a ref for the Wakanda Forever placement according to Nate Moore for when it's time to add it. -- Zoo ( talk) 19:26, 2 November 2022 (UTC)