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The translation of the motto is wrong. It should be "Freedom or Death", not "Liberty or Death". Jenmoz93 ( talk) 03:24, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
With all Greece's recent travails, does this statement (from paragraph four of the introduction), still hold good? "Greece is a democratic and developed country with an advanced high-income economy, a high quality of life and a very high standard of living."
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The following sentence is repeated twice in a row: "The Greek struggle and victory against the Italians received exuberant praise at the time."; one of the repetitions should be removed.
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Greece was founded 8 December 1974 third Hellenic Republic
Mrclever2248 ( talk) 13:04, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
There's been a bit of reverting [1] [2] over the presentation in the lede stating that Thessaloniki is "commonly referred to as the co-capital". I've removed this statement again for the following reasons:
Few years ago i asked why this article about Greece is not semi-protected, like other countries are. Few days after article became semi-protected. Now its not! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgioos ( talk • contribs) 12:38, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
I've just reverted this [4] edit, which had (re?)introduced a sentence in the lead about the history of ancient Greece that was downright idiotic.
I don't know who first inserted this nonsense. We have to be grateful to Zurkhardo for fixing it back in October [5], but then unfortunately SilentResident reverted it back in. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:39, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
The quoted source doesn't contain 2017 estimates. Xx236 ( talk) 12:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Why does it say that Greece border "Republic of Macedonia"? ΔΙΟ ΝΥΣΙΟΣ ( talk) 01:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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Greece → Hellas – Dear Wikipedians: You use the word "Greece" for my country but my country's correct name is "Hellas" (not Greece) and its official name is the "Hellenic Republic" (not Greek Republic), and its citizens are called "Hellenes" (not Greeks). In the Modern Hellenic language (not Modern Greek language) the word "Greek" is actually used as an offensive term against Hellenes who are not patriots or who are not educated about the history of Hellas (google any search engine for "γραικύλος"/"grekylos" and you will see how we use the "Greek" word). The word "Greek" (literally meaning "the ancient people") is an exonym and came from an Illyrian word used to refer to a specific tribe of Hellenes (who called themselves "Σελλοί" / "Selloi" which is a precursor word of Hellenes and means "the people of moonlight"), and later the Romans used the same word and the word stuck in English and other languages that were influenced by Latin. The people of my country want to be internationally known as Hellenes (literally meaning "the people of moonlight") because this is our name, and that's why we have made our country's official international name the "Hellenic Republic" and we insist through our government that all international organisations use the "Hellas" (literally meaning "the land of moonlight") or "Hellenic Republic" name when referring to our country. I hope you respect my country and will consider using "Hellas" instead of "Greece" (and "Hellenic" or "Hellene" instead of "Greek"). I hope that you will rename the article Greece (to Hellas) and the article Greeks (to Hellenes), as well as the article Greek language (to Hellenic language). Thank you very much. Hellenistic Oplite ( talk) 10:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC) OP is suspected sock of Sofia Koutsouveli
Athanasios Diakos said "Grekos genithika (I was born Greek)" Itsnot offensive at all. Offensive was the ancient Roman "greculi"
176.92.16.37 (
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The updating of the population number to 11.000.000 in 2016 is based on a misunderstanding. It is true that the 2016 Human Development Report gives the population of Greece as 11.0 million. The report is from 2016, however the statistical data are from the Human Development Index (HDI) for 2015, as explained in the report. The population number is taken from World Population Prospects. The 2015 Revision, only rounded from 10.955.000 to 11.0 million. I have reverted to the more accurate number. -- T*U ( talk) 12:28, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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Someone with the time or inclination might want to un-weaselword the section on religion, which combines the ridiculous "97% Orthodox" figure and selectively quotes only the percentage of believers on the eurostat survey (along with some subjective "wow! most religious people of europe!" crap. how about cyprus?). I'd also like to know when the US State Department made a gallup on religious beliefs in Greece in order for the ridiculous "97%" figure which moreover is described as "people who SELF IDENTIFY as Greek Orthodox". This number is bunk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.6.63.211 ( talk • contribs) 08:06, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
My edits were reverted despite me giving a source. This is puffery. I can't even talk to the person who reverted changes.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.27.63 ( talk • contribs)
This article chronically suffers from an extreme form of lead sentence bloat, as people keep cramming more and more name variants and naming annotations in the lead sentence. Currently [6], there are a full thirteen different renderings and glosses of the name at the start of the lead sentence, for the reader to browse through before they even get to the first word of the actual definition of the topic. This is unacceptable. I remember I found the same state of affairs and slimmed it down five years ago [7]. No idea when and how all this clutter has crept back in in the meantime.
I'm going to cut this down again. All of this is covered in the "names" section anyway. Before anybody protests: of course I'm aware that every one of these entries (glosses, phonetic transcriptions, official variants, ancient and modern pronunciations and so on) would have a legitimate reason for being in the lead, on its own. It's just the sheer quantity of them that makes this infeasible. So, if any of you find one particular entry in that list particularly important and want to reinstate it, sure, no problem – but only if some other entry goes out in its stead. We have to prioritize here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:45, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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The translation of the motto is wrong. It should be "Freedom or Death", not "Liberty or Death". Jenmoz93 ( talk) 03:24, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
With all Greece's recent travails, does this statement (from paragraph four of the introduction), still hold good? "Greece is a democratic and developed country with an advanced high-income economy, a high quality of life and a very high standard of living."
RASAM ( talk) 10:24, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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The following sentence is repeated twice in a row: "The Greek struggle and victory against the Italians received exuberant praise at the time."; one of the repetitions should be removed.
Thiagohirai ( talk) 08:12, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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Greece was founded 8 December 1974 third Hellenic Republic
Mrclever2248 ( talk) 13:04, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
There's been a bit of reverting [1] [2] over the presentation in the lede stating that Thessaloniki is "commonly referred to as the co-capital". I've removed this statement again for the following reasons:
Few years ago i asked why this article about Greece is not semi-protected, like other countries are. Few days after article became semi-protected. Now its not! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgioos ( talk • contribs) 12:38, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
I've just reverted this [4] edit, which had (re?)introduced a sentence in the lead about the history of ancient Greece that was downright idiotic.
I don't know who first inserted this nonsense. We have to be grateful to Zurkhardo for fixing it back in October [5], but then unfortunately SilentResident reverted it back in. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:39, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
The quoted source doesn't contain 2017 estimates. Xx236 ( talk) 12:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Why does it say that Greece border "Republic of Macedonia"? ΔΙΟ ΝΥΣΙΟΣ ( talk) 01:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Greece → Hellas – Dear Wikipedians: You use the word "Greece" for my country but my country's correct name is "Hellas" (not Greece) and its official name is the "Hellenic Republic" (not Greek Republic), and its citizens are called "Hellenes" (not Greeks). In the Modern Hellenic language (not Modern Greek language) the word "Greek" is actually used as an offensive term against Hellenes who are not patriots or who are not educated about the history of Hellas (google any search engine for "γραικύλος"/"grekylos" and you will see how we use the "Greek" word). The word "Greek" (literally meaning "the ancient people") is an exonym and came from an Illyrian word used to refer to a specific tribe of Hellenes (who called themselves "Σελλοί" / "Selloi" which is a precursor word of Hellenes and means "the people of moonlight"), and later the Romans used the same word and the word stuck in English and other languages that were influenced by Latin. The people of my country want to be internationally known as Hellenes (literally meaning "the people of moonlight") because this is our name, and that's why we have made our country's official international name the "Hellenic Republic" and we insist through our government that all international organisations use the "Hellas" (literally meaning "the land of moonlight") or "Hellenic Republic" name when referring to our country. I hope you respect my country and will consider using "Hellas" instead of "Greece" (and "Hellenic" or "Hellene" instead of "Greek"). I hope that you will rename the article Greece (to Hellas) and the article Greeks (to Hellenes), as well as the article Greek language (to Hellenic language). Thank you very much. Hellenistic Oplite ( talk) 10:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC) OP is suspected sock of Sofia Koutsouveli
Athanasios Diakos said "Grekos genithika (I was born Greek)" Itsnot offensive at all. Offensive was the ancient Roman "greculi"
176.92.16.37 (
talk) 01:31, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
The updating of the population number to 11.000.000 in 2016 is based on a misunderstanding. It is true that the 2016 Human Development Report gives the population of Greece as 11.0 million. The report is from 2016, however the statistical data are from the Human Development Index (HDI) for 2015, as explained in the report. The population number is taken from World Population Prospects. The 2015 Revision, only rounded from 10.955.000 to 11.0 million. I have reverted to the more accurate number. -- T*U ( talk) 12:28, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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Someone with the time or inclination might want to un-weaselword the section on religion, which combines the ridiculous "97% Orthodox" figure and selectively quotes only the percentage of believers on the eurostat survey (along with some subjective "wow! most religious people of europe!" crap. how about cyprus?). I'd also like to know when the US State Department made a gallup on religious beliefs in Greece in order for the ridiculous "97%" figure which moreover is described as "people who SELF IDENTIFY as Greek Orthodox". This number is bunk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.6.63.211 ( talk • contribs) 08:06, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
My edits were reverted despite me giving a source. This is puffery. I can't even talk to the person who reverted changes.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.27.63 ( talk • contribs)
This article chronically suffers from an extreme form of lead sentence bloat, as people keep cramming more and more name variants and naming annotations in the lead sentence. Currently [6], there are a full thirteen different renderings and glosses of the name at the start of the lead sentence, for the reader to browse through before they even get to the first word of the actual definition of the topic. This is unacceptable. I remember I found the same state of affairs and slimmed it down five years ago [7]. No idea when and how all this clutter has crept back in in the meantime.
I'm going to cut this down again. All of this is covered in the "names" section anyway. Before anybody protests: of course I'm aware that every one of these entries (glosses, phonetic transcriptions, official variants, ancient and modern pronunciations and so on) would have a legitimate reason for being in the lead, on its own. It's just the sheer quantity of them that makes this infeasible. So, if any of you find one particular entry in that list particularly important and want to reinstate it, sure, no problem – but only if some other entry goes out in its stead. We have to prioritize here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:45, 13 August 2017 (UTC)