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Amount of hash oil in lead
A recent
change removed the amount of hash oil carried by Griner from the leadunder the claim of it not being notable enough. Pending discussion of why it isn't notable, I have reverted.
King keudo (
talk) 00:18, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Edited, bolded edit, to clarify my original comment.
King keudo (
talk) 00:19, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Yes, I don't think it's notable enough for the lead because it implies that the amount of oil she carried was somehow trivial.
If it's going to be said at all, I propose that the sentence be changed to reflect the actual amount of substance she carried, and not the non-specific statement of "less than a gram" that seems like it's designed to trivialize her possession of the cannabis oil, especially in the context of Russia and their ongoing issues when viewed from a Western stance.
Cessaune (
talk) 01:30, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
I disagree with removing an indication of the amount from the Lead, but if someone can source the exact amount, that would be even better. One gram of cannabis oil is not very much, and it is important to put the crime with which she was charged in perspective. That does not trivialize it, it quantifies it. --
Ssilvers (
talk) 05:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
For the moment, I'm inclined to agree that the 'less than a gram' belongs in the lead. Looking over the sources used both in the lead and in the section
2022 arrest and imprisonment in Russia, only the NPR source appears to specifically state the 'less than a gram' when covering the arrest and the plea by Griner. However, later sources such as
this one do specifically link the amount of 'less than a gram' to the apparent over-sentencing of the subject. The comparison is important; the sentence imposed is being analyzed by sources as excessive, and probably politically motivated. I think that's why we keep this info in the lead; RS describe it as notable for the subjects arrest in light of global political theater.
King keudo (
talk) 15:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
I too believe less than a gram belongs in the lead. Sources point out just how trivial the amount was. ---Lilach5 (
לילך5)
discuss 20:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
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Move the section "2022 arrest and imprisonment in Russia" above the section "Personal life and activism."
Humblejeffry (
talk) 18:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Not done: no explanation given for the proposed change.
M.Bitton (
talk) 19:21, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Done per conmon practice.
QueenofHearts 22:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Link to Viktor Bout
Viktor Bout is a notable arms dealer and the prisoner swap is relevant information. Readers may find it useful to read further on Viktor Bout, especially since there is already a wikipage.
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Amount of hash oil in lead
A recent
change removed the amount of hash oil carried by Griner from the leadunder the claim of it not being notable enough. Pending discussion of why it isn't notable, I have reverted.
King keudo (
talk) 00:18, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Edited, bolded edit, to clarify my original comment.
King keudo (
talk) 00:19, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Yes, I don't think it's notable enough for the lead because it implies that the amount of oil she carried was somehow trivial.
If it's going to be said at all, I propose that the sentence be changed to reflect the actual amount of substance she carried, and not the non-specific statement of "less than a gram" that seems like it's designed to trivialize her possession of the cannabis oil, especially in the context of Russia and their ongoing issues when viewed from a Western stance.
Cessaune (
talk) 01:30, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
I disagree with removing an indication of the amount from the Lead, but if someone can source the exact amount, that would be even better. One gram of cannabis oil is not very much, and it is important to put the crime with which she was charged in perspective. That does not trivialize it, it quantifies it. --
Ssilvers (
talk) 05:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
For the moment, I'm inclined to agree that the 'less than a gram' belongs in the lead. Looking over the sources used both in the lead and in the section
2022 arrest and imprisonment in Russia, only the NPR source appears to specifically state the 'less than a gram' when covering the arrest and the plea by Griner. However, later sources such as
this one do specifically link the amount of 'less than a gram' to the apparent over-sentencing of the subject. The comparison is important; the sentence imposed is being analyzed by sources as excessive, and probably politically motivated. I think that's why we keep this info in the lead; RS describe it as notable for the subjects arrest in light of global political theater.
King keudo (
talk) 15:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
I too believe less than a gram belongs in the lead. Sources point out just how trivial the amount was. ---Lilach5 (
לילך5)
discuss 20:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
Move the section "2022 arrest and imprisonment in Russia" above the section "Personal life and activism."
Humblejeffry (
talk) 18:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Not done: no explanation given for the proposed change.
M.Bitton (
talk) 19:21, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Done per conmon practice.
QueenofHearts 22:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Link to Viktor Bout
Viktor Bout is a notable arms dealer and the prisoner swap is relevant information. Readers may find it useful to read further on Viktor Bout, especially since there is already a wikipage.
12.184.217.70 (
talk) 16:33, 30 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
2x Naismith Player of the Year (2012,2013)[1]172.10.45.18 (
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Funnyfarmofdoom(talk to me) 02:26, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply