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As ever with articles of this topic, someone with a personal agenda against the general topic has obviously crusaded for removing a load of information and "compressing" it into one article, and since their only agenda is censoring information they don't like rather than building an encyclopedia, they've done a terrible job of it. I got redirected here while looking for information on Serapis Bey, whom this article does not mention once. I know I'm banging my head against a brick wall, but change your attitude and sort this out. - filelake shoe 08:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
This guy has his point. If the page mentions a specific name or individual whether real or fictional, the character should be elaborated upon at least enough to provide further linking to another page or sources they can research. Remember to be objective and look at things from the point of the highest good. Sure this page and works could be better organized and part of that organization of knowledge is where it came from. BenMachAzoulay ( talk) 20:55, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
This article appears to depend predominantly on the views of prominent theosophists themselves ( WP:PRIMARY), rather than analysis from secondary sources (e.g. academics working in Comparative religion, etc). Hrafn Talk Stalk( P) 11:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
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Wouldnt one have to go through ascension via elemental kingdom>vegetable kingdom>animal kingdom> non-initiate or human kingdm>aspirant-to-initiation>disciple or adept>deva or master which are 100yrs-500yrs-1000yrs-10,000 years consciousnesses. Some say jesus was a full 100,000 years consciousness. Every 2,000 years the sun turns a day old, it turned a day old in pisces 2000 years ago. It is turning a day old today, april 19 2011 all the natal signs were in aries and taurus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.60.164 ( talk) 19:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
How to Make the Ascension is a very good question in this theme. But that would involve some research and order. BenMachAzoulay ( talk) 20:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC) |
I propose to merge Ascended Master Teachings into Ascended master. This is basically the same subject, but with one article written from an in-universe perspective. GPinkerton ( talk) 19:22, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Hey! I'm currently doing an overhaul of the entire ascended masters article, mostly fixing tone, removing redundancies and taking the wheat from the chaff. If anyone's interested, my sandbox is right here. Rajavlitra23 ( talk) 18:24, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Per this [1] revert by User:Skyerise, can anyone point to a discussion where consensus for User:RayofLightning's recent massive additions to the article was arrived at? I can't see any, and given the discussions at WP:FTN, [2] at WP:ANI, [3] and at an AfD discussion [4], where a series of related articles appear per general agreement to have been subject to systemic WP:OR based on a misunderstanding as to the policies and purpose of Wikipedia, I think it unlikely that any such consensus would be found. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 05:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
It is an esoteric principle that "the lower cannot see (i.e., recognize) the higher".[124] Therefore, what one commonly observes emanating from those who are disturbed by — yet stimulated by — the higher frequencies of the Initiates or Masters, is: ridicule; condemnation; and even, in some cases, murder (as the very lives and writings of high Initiates or Masters provoke difficult, if not very hard-to-attain, changes deeply within ordinary individuals, often thereby precipitating a period of crises upon them). [125] One such initiate was the Russian woman Helena Blavatsky, who took great risks to travel widely, and who studied directly with Tibetan high llamas [sic, !?!] that recognized her stature — as Blavatsky was a fourth degree initiate.
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Mahatma Letters was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 08 December 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Ascended master. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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As ever with articles of this topic, someone with a personal agenda against the general topic has obviously crusaded for removing a load of information and "compressing" it into one article, and since their only agenda is censoring information they don't like rather than building an encyclopedia, they've done a terrible job of it. I got redirected here while looking for information on Serapis Bey, whom this article does not mention once. I know I'm banging my head against a brick wall, but change your attitude and sort this out. - filelake shoe 08:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
This guy has his point. If the page mentions a specific name or individual whether real or fictional, the character should be elaborated upon at least enough to provide further linking to another page or sources they can research. Remember to be objective and look at things from the point of the highest good. Sure this page and works could be better organized and part of that organization of knowledge is where it came from. BenMachAzoulay ( talk) 20:55, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
This article appears to depend predominantly on the views of prominent theosophists themselves ( WP:PRIMARY), rather than analysis from secondary sources (e.g. academics working in Comparative religion, etc). Hrafn Talk Stalk( P) 11:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
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Wouldnt one have to go through ascension via elemental kingdom>vegetable kingdom>animal kingdom> non-initiate or human kingdm>aspirant-to-initiation>disciple or adept>deva or master which are 100yrs-500yrs-1000yrs-10,000 years consciousnesses. Some say jesus was a full 100,000 years consciousness. Every 2,000 years the sun turns a day old, it turned a day old in pisces 2000 years ago. It is turning a day old today, april 19 2011 all the natal signs were in aries and taurus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.60.164 ( talk) 19:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
How to Make the Ascension is a very good question in this theme. But that would involve some research and order. BenMachAzoulay ( talk) 20:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC) |
I propose to merge Ascended Master Teachings into Ascended master. This is basically the same subject, but with one article written from an in-universe perspective. GPinkerton ( talk) 19:22, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Hey! I'm currently doing an overhaul of the entire ascended masters article, mostly fixing tone, removing redundancies and taking the wheat from the chaff. If anyone's interested, my sandbox is right here. Rajavlitra23 ( talk) 18:24, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Per this [1] revert by User:Skyerise, can anyone point to a discussion where consensus for User:RayofLightning's recent massive additions to the article was arrived at? I can't see any, and given the discussions at WP:FTN, [2] at WP:ANI, [3] and at an AfD discussion [4], where a series of related articles appear per general agreement to have been subject to systemic WP:OR based on a misunderstanding as to the policies and purpose of Wikipedia, I think it unlikely that any such consensus would be found. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 05:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
It is an esoteric principle that "the lower cannot see (i.e., recognize) the higher".[124] Therefore, what one commonly observes emanating from those who are disturbed by — yet stimulated by — the higher frequencies of the Initiates or Masters, is: ridicule; condemnation; and even, in some cases, murder (as the very lives and writings of high Initiates or Masters provoke difficult, if not very hard-to-attain, changes deeply within ordinary individuals, often thereby precipitating a period of crises upon them). [125] One such initiate was the Russian woman Helena Blavatsky, who took great risks to travel widely, and who studied directly with Tibetan high llamas [sic, !?!] that recognized her stature — as Blavatsky was a fourth degree initiate.