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After looking at all 224 of the present sources, All but 10 of them come from low grade news sources (ie, news sources which regularly post incorrect or misleading articles). One of the 10 remaining is a twitter tweet, and the rest are mostly court cases. Does it worry anyone else that such an incredible amount of this page is reliant on such organizations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.59.118.255 ( talk) 02:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
I am a transgender woman living in Florida, and believe the following section of this article is inaccurate:
"In August 2022, the state of Florida voted to require any trans adult seeking gender affirming healthcare to receive approval from the Florida Board of Medicine at least 24 hours in advance."
I have encountered no such requirement during my treatment. It appears that the 24 hour waiting period was proposed, but never signed into law nor did the Florida Board of Medicine update their requirements to include this provision. 2600:8807:C61B:3200:6FD7:7C60:F7BE:7481 ( talk) 19:23, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
I'm wondering, and feel free to chime in, to what extent this article should involve content on the similar anti-LGBT push in the rest of the English-speaking world, the UK being the most prominent example. While yes, we both have borders and our own legislatures, the level of influence the digital age has given the two in stoking anti-LGBT hatred for each other is not inconsiderable. That is, when anti-LGBT rhetoric is being pushed in the US, those pushing it will frequently cite British media pieces and British court cases, and vise versa. Thoughts? Snokalok ( talk) 22:12, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
[[@ Blueshirtz
This is an article about a fascist movement targeting an oppressed minority group. Saying we shouldn’t cite sources that side with that group would be like saying we shouldn’t cite sources that side with Jews regarding the Holocaust, or side with Native Americans about the trail of tears.
The neutral point between no bigotry and yes bigotry is not, nor ever should it be, some degree of bigotry. Snokalok ( talk) 19:41, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
[1] There are a lot of citations included here for an WP:OR claim...
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Major figures in the movement include Florida governor Ron DeSantis, [1] [2] former Fox News pundit Tucker Carlson, [3] podcast host and activist Matt Walsh, [4] [5] far-right Twitter account Libs of TikTok operator, Chaya Raichik, [6] [7] and Elon Musk, business magnate and owner of Twitter. [8] [9] [10] [11]
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Notable Figures (section)
While I haven't had time to look at each citation individually, these types of large edits usually raise some red flags. Pinging FMSky for further discussion. DN ( talk) 22:22, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
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The 2020s anti-LGBT movement in the United States is an ongoing conservative political backlash most notably from Republican lawmakers and congressional leaders, against LGBT people which has included bathroom use restrictions, bans on gender-affirming care, anti-LGBT curriculum laws, laws against drag performances, book bans, boycotts, and conspiracy theories around grooming.
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I suggest changing the description of the missouri trans restrictions order to that it would require a screening for autism instead of barring people with autism as nothing in the order says it would be disqualifying https://www.axios.com/2023/04/13/missouri-ag-gender-affirming-care https://autisticadvocacy.org/2023/03/asan-condemns-restrictions-on-gender-affirming-care/ I also suggest adding that the order was dropped after the may 11th court date https://www.axios.com/2023/05/17/missouri-transgender-order-gender-affirming-care-ban Transvampire ( talk) 15:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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I don't think harrassment, doxxing, and murders of people for existing, as well as the stripping of basic human rights of those people by vile politicians, count as mere "political backlash". I don't have the proper, actually neutral wording in mind, or I would've changed it boldly. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 02:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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After looking at all 224 of the present sources, All but 10 of them come from low grade news sources (ie, news sources which regularly post incorrect or misleading articles). One of the 10 remaining is a twitter tweet, and the rest are mostly court cases. Does it worry anyone else that such an incredible amount of this page is reliant on such organizations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.59.118.255 ( talk) 02:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
I am a transgender woman living in Florida, and believe the following section of this article is inaccurate:
"In August 2022, the state of Florida voted to require any trans adult seeking gender affirming healthcare to receive approval from the Florida Board of Medicine at least 24 hours in advance."
I have encountered no such requirement during my treatment. It appears that the 24 hour waiting period was proposed, but never signed into law nor did the Florida Board of Medicine update their requirements to include this provision. 2600:8807:C61B:3200:6FD7:7C60:F7BE:7481 ( talk) 19:23, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
I'm wondering, and feel free to chime in, to what extent this article should involve content on the similar anti-LGBT push in the rest of the English-speaking world, the UK being the most prominent example. While yes, we both have borders and our own legislatures, the level of influence the digital age has given the two in stoking anti-LGBT hatred for each other is not inconsiderable. That is, when anti-LGBT rhetoric is being pushed in the US, those pushing it will frequently cite British media pieces and British court cases, and vise versa. Thoughts? Snokalok ( talk) 22:12, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
[[@ Blueshirtz
This is an article about a fascist movement targeting an oppressed minority group. Saying we shouldn’t cite sources that side with that group would be like saying we shouldn’t cite sources that side with Jews regarding the Holocaust, or side with Native Americans about the trail of tears.
The neutral point between no bigotry and yes bigotry is not, nor ever should it be, some degree of bigotry. Snokalok ( talk) 19:41, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
[1] There are a lot of citations included here for an WP:OR claim...
(from the lead)
Major figures in the movement include Florida governor Ron DeSantis, [1] [2] former Fox News pundit Tucker Carlson, [3] podcast host and activist Matt Walsh, [4] [5] far-right Twitter account Libs of TikTok operator, Chaya Raichik, [6] [7] and Elon Musk, business magnate and owner of Twitter. [8] [9] [10] [11]
(from the body)
Notable Figures (section)
While I haven't had time to look at each citation individually, these types of large edits usually raise some red flags. Pinging FMSky for further discussion. DN ( talk) 22:22, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
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The 2020s anti-LGBT movement in the United States is an ongoing conservative political backlash most notably from Republican lawmakers and congressional leaders, against LGBT people which has included bathroom use restrictions, bans on gender-affirming care, anti-LGBT curriculum laws, laws against drag performances, book bans, boycotts, and conspiracy theories around grooming.
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I suggest changing the description of the missouri trans restrictions order to that it would require a screening for autism instead of barring people with autism as nothing in the order says it would be disqualifying https://www.axios.com/2023/04/13/missouri-ag-gender-affirming-care https://autisticadvocacy.org/2023/03/asan-condemns-restrictions-on-gender-affirming-care/ I also suggest adding that the order was dropped after the may 11th court date https://www.axios.com/2023/05/17/missouri-transgender-order-gender-affirming-care-ban Transvampire ( talk) 15:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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FlightTime (
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I don't think harrassment, doxxing, and murders of people for existing, as well as the stripping of basic human rights of those people by vile politicians, count as mere "political backlash". I don't have the proper, actually neutral wording in mind, or I would've changed it boldly. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 02:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)