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This article may refer to three Polish formations (which on the pl wiki have separate articles about them). The problem with their names is that two use the word Jazda, one Kawaleria - both really translate as Cavalry. They are:
I'd suggest keeping the articles directly associated with pl wiki articles, and adding (Jazdy) or (Kawalerii) to to the name of the article (ex. 1st Cavalry Division (Polish) (Jazdy) and 1st Cavalry Division (Polish) (Kawalerii) - unless anybody can come up with a better disambig name?
While I was able to find that 1 Dywizja Jazdy was transformed into 1 Dywizja Kawalerii in 1924, I am not sure if Dywizja Jazdy was transformed directly into 1 Dywizja Jazdy. All of those units having different brigades does not help, neither. For example, there was also pl:2 Dywizja Jazdy with 8th and 9th Brigades. It is possible (my guess) that in fact all three existed at the same time and 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 10th Brigades were not a part of any Division (do note all brigades have individual articles on pl wiki, too, but they have not enough on op. history and structure to clarify that).
It should be noted that Brigades were numbered in a confusing way; while there were 10 (I to X) Brygady Jazdy, the Brygady Kawalerii (presumably formed in 1924) had much more spread out and confusing numbers, see pl:Szablon:Kawaleria II RP for details (of course this is assuming that template is comprehensive).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Unable to speak any Polish, I think I've added to the article what I can from English sources I could find. I finished the book I used as my main, but not only, source and there is not much more in it. I think, only somebody with access to Polish sources can improve this article now. Regarding the above, looking at how desperate Poland was in August 1920, I don't think, they worried to much about division or brigade numbers or names, therefore I don't think we can expect the nice, organised system a peace time army would have. Units were moved around based on necessety, not order. And I agree, keep it all one article. Should considerably more information surface, justifing separate articles, it can still be split then. EA210269 ( talk) 12:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
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Article reviewed and edited for grammar, B-Class-4 flag cleared. Tedmarynicz ( talk) 10:47, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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This article may refer to three Polish formations (which on the pl wiki have separate articles about them). The problem with their names is that two use the word Jazda, one Kawaleria - both really translate as Cavalry. They are:
I'd suggest keeping the articles directly associated with pl wiki articles, and adding (Jazdy) or (Kawalerii) to to the name of the article (ex. 1st Cavalry Division (Polish) (Jazdy) and 1st Cavalry Division (Polish) (Kawalerii) - unless anybody can come up with a better disambig name?
While I was able to find that 1 Dywizja Jazdy was transformed into 1 Dywizja Kawalerii in 1924, I am not sure if Dywizja Jazdy was transformed directly into 1 Dywizja Jazdy. All of those units having different brigades does not help, neither. For example, there was also pl:2 Dywizja Jazdy with 8th and 9th Brigades. It is possible (my guess) that in fact all three existed at the same time and 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 10th Brigades were not a part of any Division (do note all brigades have individual articles on pl wiki, too, but they have not enough on op. history and structure to clarify that).
It should be noted that Brigades were numbered in a confusing way; while there were 10 (I to X) Brygady Jazdy, the Brygady Kawalerii (presumably formed in 1924) had much more spread out and confusing numbers, see pl:Szablon:Kawaleria II RP for details (of course this is assuming that template is comprehensive).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Unable to speak any Polish, I think I've added to the article what I can from English sources I could find. I finished the book I used as my main, but not only, source and there is not much more in it. I think, only somebody with access to Polish sources can improve this article now. Regarding the above, looking at how desperate Poland was in August 1920, I don't think, they worried to much about division or brigade numbers or names, therefore I don't think we can expect the nice, organised system a peace time army would have. Units were moved around based on necessety, not order. And I agree, keep it all one article. Should considerably more information surface, justifing separate articles, it can still be split then. EA210269 ( talk) 12:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
-- JeffGBot ( talk) 03:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Article reviewed and edited for grammar, B-Class-4 flag cleared. Tedmarynicz ( talk) 10:47, 20 September 2017 (UTC)