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I massively expanded this article on the deadliest natural disaster in United States history, and no one else has touched it since. I'd just like someone to look it over and make sure I didn't screw it up. -- Cyrius| ✎ 01:57, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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Merged badly with the second paragraph in the Destruction section. Cut and paste errors methinks, but I'm not sure how to fix it. Otherwise I like what I see and can't think of much else it needs so far. - Taxman 22:54, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)
HI. This seems to be a contradiction, or at least I don't get it:
How can it be the deadliest natural disaster if it had less casualties than other storms? Am I missing something? -- DanielCD 18:52, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Oh. That's true. Thanks. -- DanielCD 19:52, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Made some edits; many just style and wording. Really nice article; very thorough. -- DanielCD 20:03, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Have I not been following the news closely? I think the Katrina death toll numbers are off by a few factors of 10:
"In contrast, through September 21, 2005, Hurricane Katrina's death toll is 15,564 and growing."
I just saw a video on the History Channel (I'm pretty sure) on this hurricane a few weeks ago. Someone might feel like digging it up and linking to it at the bottom. -- Oreckel 13:41, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The info box states that total damages were $30 million (1900 dollars) or $36 billion (2003 dollars). I'm not sure I really understand this -- surely it doesn't mean to imply that a dollar in 1900 had the purchasing power that one thousand, two hundred dollars would today?! I don't know offhand but I'd assume that a 1900 dollar is more equivalent to 10 or 20 of today's dollars.
We gotta mark this page... i have a feeling that Hurricane Katrina will knock this into 4th hardest hitting hurricane. -- Dragontamer 01:22, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
The 1906 San Francisco earthquake article is named with the year appearing before the city. Should this one be renamed with the same format (1900 Galveston Hurricane) or viceversa (San Francisco earthquake of 1906)? -- xDCDx 08:37, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
The text says winds topped at 135mph. The chart on the right says 150mph. Needs to be cleared up.
I know the Galveston Hurricane of 1900 impactd places other than Galveston so this article needs mention impact in Caribbean, Cuba, Louisiana, rest of Texas, Ohio Valley, New England and Atlantic Canada. Probably we need to have a Effect of Galevston Hurricane by region sub page like we did with the Hurricane Katrina article. Storm05 20:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
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I think this one is a High; ~10000 deaths and a billion in 2000 USD damages is very notable to me.-- Nilfanion ( talk) 10:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Upper echelon of High. If the storm hit today and killed 8,000, with the gold mine of information that would come out, the article would look a lot like that of Hurricane Katrina and would likely be Top-class if it had the same tragic and traumatic impacts. CrazyC83 01:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
This article doesn't seem to follow the structure outlines for tropical cyclone articles. It has a very odd structure. But I'm not sure how to properly organize it without losing information. Can anybody fix the problem? íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 15:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
"The highest measured wind speed was 100 mph (160 km/h) just after 6 p.m., but the Weather Bureau's anemometer was blown off the building shortly after that measurement."
If the anemometer was blown off then how can it be said that the storm that hit Galveston was a Category 4 storm? Reub2000 03:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know how long it took to rebuild the city? That'd be a great addition to the article. -- § Hurricane E RIC § archive 17:03, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
This was featured a long time ago. Trouble is there is the perception that once an article is featured it needs no more work. That is not true as standards change. The biggest problem is this article as it stands is it only really addresses the storm and Galveston; it is more comparable to effects of Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans than to Hurricane Katrina. There is minimal information about impact elsewhere in the US, and in the Caribbean. The meteorological information also seems fairly weak.
The style of the prose is somewhat distinct from other hurricane articles, but that isn't a problem in itself.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 11:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I added several links to articles from the New York Times historical archives, now that they're publicly accessible. Pasketti 16:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 18:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
The first two historic photos, one captioned "This photograph shows the aftermath of the hurricane and the destruction it wrought" and the other, captioned "Homes in Galveston such as this one were reduced to timbers by the hurricane winds and floods" are from the 1889 Johnstown flood, not the Galveston Hurricane. For proof, go to the Library of Congress's Prints & Photos online archive (www.loc.gov/rr/print/catalog.html) and search for digital ID "cph 3b40885" to see another view of the Catholic Church in the first scene. The second scene includes one of Johnstown's schoolhouses, which was used as a morgue after the flood (I can't find a picture right now, but trust me, that's Johnstown as well). -- Brassbear ( talk) 15:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Could you please provide a direct link to the catholic church photo. I was unable to find it by searching for digital ID that you gave. Thanks -- Nsaum75 ( talk) 15:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
After reading many articles in The Handbook of Texas Online [3] I have found that the storm did much more than just destroy Galveston. For example in the histories of towns like Pattison, Brookshire, Tomball, Waller, and Hempstead, all some 75-100 miles inland of Galveston, there is evidance of destruction and damage caused by this storm. Many smaller towns within a 50 mile radius of Galveston were never rebuilt or never regained the growth they were enjoying prior to the storm.
As important as the destruction was to Galveston, I would still like to see more on the damage and destruction that occured to other communities. Anyone interested in writing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmpafford ( talk • contribs) 19:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I wanted to suggest mention of this hurricane and a link to this article "1867 Hurricane left mark on Galveston" be included http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=1382de2c1b586593 since those who worry about Hurricane Ike will look to Galveston's past storms to predict the future. And congratulations on having written one of Wikipedia's finest articles. rumjal 12:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
There should be a link in the references to this interview with the author of Isaacs Storm, a book about the 1900 hurricane http://hnn.us/articles/15529.html rumjal 12:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Since the article was recently re-titled to have the "h" in Hurricane as lowercase, I think we should talk of another move, before we go crazy in fixing all of the redirects. I propose moving it to 1900 Galveston hurricane. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 01:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
FYI: I added a Historigraphy section to the Aftermath. The point of the section was to mention that the hurricane and its aftermath separate two widely recognized historical periods, each a few decades long. Even though the article is not about these two periods I think it is important to understand the storm's role in the history of those periods.
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Since Galveston is near and dear to me, I think it would be good to put up a little something about the survivor plaques that bulidings have that survived the storm, like the Strand Theater. Just a thought. Being semi-new to Wikipedia, Im not quit sure where to pu it. Help me out? Thanks! Flightx52 ( talk) 21:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
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Thomas Edison filmed the aftermath of this disaster; media that is now in the public domain. — C M B J 06:15, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
It amazes me that there was only one mention, and as merely a by-blow, of Hurricane Ike. I've added a link in See Also to Hurricane Ike, Texas. It should be worked into the article. Look at the picture at that link. The difference between having a seawall and not. The complacency of the residents, and the needless deaths, only 108 years after Galveston's tragedy. My feeling is that the Wikiproject has some thinking to do about education vs. celebration. Hopefully this article on the "deadliest hurricane in US history" is an exception to good work elsewhere? Shenme ( talk) 20:43, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Since this good faith change on Feb 19 of "Prior to" to "Until" there has been an edit war over whether the article should say:
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I have therefore restored it to the previously stable wording of "Until". Given the edit war, obviously this is a controversial change, so consensus favoring the change must be established here on the talk page before the change is made. Make your respective cases, folks, or find something else to do. But please stop edit warring over this. -- B2 C 06:42, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I understand this is one of the names, but it is an older alias, and the article title doesn't even reflect that anymore. I think "Great Galveston Hurricane" should be used as an alternate for the hurricane, but not at the top of the infobox. Asking for consensus. Yanping Nora Soong ( talk) 01:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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That should be it for the review. Great work on this very important storm, User:12george1. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 16:04, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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I massively expanded this article on the deadliest natural disaster in United States history, and no one else has touched it since. I'd just like someone to look it over and make sure I didn't screw it up. -- Cyrius| ✎ 01:57, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Headline text
Merged badly with the second paragraph in the Destruction section. Cut and paste errors methinks, but I'm not sure how to fix it. Otherwise I like what I see and can't think of much else it needs so far. - Taxman 22:54, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)
HI. This seems to be a contradiction, or at least I don't get it:
How can it be the deadliest natural disaster if it had less casualties than other storms? Am I missing something? -- DanielCD 18:52, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Oh. That's true. Thanks. -- DanielCD 19:52, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Made some edits; many just style and wording. Really nice article; very thorough. -- DanielCD 20:03, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Have I not been following the news closely? I think the Katrina death toll numbers are off by a few factors of 10:
"In contrast, through September 21, 2005, Hurricane Katrina's death toll is 15,564 and growing."
I just saw a video on the History Channel (I'm pretty sure) on this hurricane a few weeks ago. Someone might feel like digging it up and linking to it at the bottom. -- Oreckel 13:41, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The info box states that total damages were $30 million (1900 dollars) or $36 billion (2003 dollars). I'm not sure I really understand this -- surely it doesn't mean to imply that a dollar in 1900 had the purchasing power that one thousand, two hundred dollars would today?! I don't know offhand but I'd assume that a 1900 dollar is more equivalent to 10 or 20 of today's dollars.
We gotta mark this page... i have a feeling that Hurricane Katrina will knock this into 4th hardest hitting hurricane. -- Dragontamer 01:22, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
The 1906 San Francisco earthquake article is named with the year appearing before the city. Should this one be renamed with the same format (1900 Galveston Hurricane) or viceversa (San Francisco earthquake of 1906)? -- xDCDx 08:37, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
The text says winds topped at 135mph. The chart on the right says 150mph. Needs to be cleared up.
I know the Galveston Hurricane of 1900 impactd places other than Galveston so this article needs mention impact in Caribbean, Cuba, Louisiana, rest of Texas, Ohio Valley, New England and Atlantic Canada. Probably we need to have a Effect of Galevston Hurricane by region sub page like we did with the Hurricane Katrina article. Storm05 20:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
The lack of any inline references is a major problem for this article. I don't think it's appropriate for a FA to not have inline references. The ref/reference format is in place; can some of the original authors go back through and add the references into the text? — jdorje ( talk) 20:36, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I think this one is a High; ~10000 deaths and a billion in 2000 USD damages is very notable to me.-- Nilfanion ( talk) 10:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Upper echelon of High. If the storm hit today and killed 8,000, with the gold mine of information that would come out, the article would look a lot like that of Hurricane Katrina and would likely be Top-class if it had the same tragic and traumatic impacts. CrazyC83 01:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
This article doesn't seem to follow the structure outlines for tropical cyclone articles. It has a very odd structure. But I'm not sure how to properly organize it without losing information. Can anybody fix the problem? íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 15:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
"The highest measured wind speed was 100 mph (160 km/h) just after 6 p.m., but the Weather Bureau's anemometer was blown off the building shortly after that measurement."
If the anemometer was blown off then how can it be said that the storm that hit Galveston was a Category 4 storm? Reub2000 03:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know how long it took to rebuild the city? That'd be a great addition to the article. -- § Hurricane E RIC § archive 17:03, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
This was featured a long time ago. Trouble is there is the perception that once an article is featured it needs no more work. That is not true as standards change. The biggest problem is this article as it stands is it only really addresses the storm and Galveston; it is more comparable to effects of Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans than to Hurricane Katrina. There is minimal information about impact elsewhere in the US, and in the Caribbean. The meteorological information also seems fairly weak.
The style of the prose is somewhat distinct from other hurricane articles, but that isn't a problem in itself.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 11:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I added several links to articles from the New York Times historical archives, now that they're publicly accessible. Pasketti 16:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 18:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
The first two historic photos, one captioned "This photograph shows the aftermath of the hurricane and the destruction it wrought" and the other, captioned "Homes in Galveston such as this one were reduced to timbers by the hurricane winds and floods" are from the 1889 Johnstown flood, not the Galveston Hurricane. For proof, go to the Library of Congress's Prints & Photos online archive (www.loc.gov/rr/print/catalog.html) and search for digital ID "cph 3b40885" to see another view of the Catholic Church in the first scene. The second scene includes one of Johnstown's schoolhouses, which was used as a morgue after the flood (I can't find a picture right now, but trust me, that's Johnstown as well). -- Brassbear ( talk) 15:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Could you please provide a direct link to the catholic church photo. I was unable to find it by searching for digital ID that you gave. Thanks -- Nsaum75 ( talk) 15:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
After reading many articles in The Handbook of Texas Online [3] I have found that the storm did much more than just destroy Galveston. For example in the histories of towns like Pattison, Brookshire, Tomball, Waller, and Hempstead, all some 75-100 miles inland of Galveston, there is evidance of destruction and damage caused by this storm. Many smaller towns within a 50 mile radius of Galveston were never rebuilt or never regained the growth they were enjoying prior to the storm.
As important as the destruction was to Galveston, I would still like to see more on the damage and destruction that occured to other communities. Anyone interested in writing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmpafford ( talk • contribs) 19:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I wanted to suggest mention of this hurricane and a link to this article "1867 Hurricane left mark on Galveston" be included http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=1382de2c1b586593 since those who worry about Hurricane Ike will look to Galveston's past storms to predict the future. And congratulations on having written one of Wikipedia's finest articles. rumjal 12:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
There should be a link in the references to this interview with the author of Isaacs Storm, a book about the 1900 hurricane http://hnn.us/articles/15529.html rumjal 12:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Since the article was recently re-titled to have the "h" in Hurricane as lowercase, I think we should talk of another move, before we go crazy in fixing all of the redirects. I propose moving it to 1900 Galveston hurricane. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 01:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
FYI: I added a Historigraphy section to the Aftermath. The point of the section was to mention that the hurricane and its aftermath separate two widely recognized historical periods, each a few decades long. Even though the article is not about these two periods I think it is important to understand the storm's role in the history of those periods.
-- Mcorazao ( talk) 15:19, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
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Since Galveston is near and dear to me, I think it would be good to put up a little something about the survivor plaques that bulidings have that survived the storm, like the Strand Theater. Just a thought. Being semi-new to Wikipedia, Im not quit sure where to pu it. Help me out? Thanks! Flightx52 ( talk) 21:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
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Thomas Edison filmed the aftermath of this disaster; media that is now in the public domain. — C M B J 06:15, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
It amazes me that there was only one mention, and as merely a by-blow, of Hurricane Ike. I've added a link in See Also to Hurricane Ike, Texas. It should be worked into the article. Look at the picture at that link. The difference between having a seawall and not. The complacency of the residents, and the needless deaths, only 108 years after Galveston's tragedy. My feeling is that the Wikiproject has some thinking to do about education vs. celebration. Hopefully this article on the "deadliest hurricane in US history" is an exception to good work elsewhere? Shenme ( talk) 20:43, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Since this good faith change on Feb 19 of "Prior to" to "Until" there has been an edit war over whether the article should say:
OR
I have therefore restored it to the previously stable wording of "Until". Given the edit war, obviously this is a controversial change, so consensus favoring the change must be established here on the talk page before the change is made. Make your respective cases, folks, or find something else to do. But please stop edit warring over this. -- B2 C 06:42, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I understand this is one of the names, but it is an older alias, and the article title doesn't even reflect that anymore. I think "Great Galveston Hurricane" should be used as an alternate for the hurricane, but not at the top of the infobox. Asking for consensus. Yanping Nora Soong ( talk) 01:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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That should be it for the review. Great work on this very important storm, User:12george1. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 16:04, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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@ Destroyeraa, KN2731, SMB99thx, Chicdat, Cyclonebiskit, Hurricanehink, and Cyclone Toby: The article is, over a hundred kilobytes, at the point where it should be split. Because of the extensive damage/deaths in Texas, I am proposing it be split off from the rest of the article with only a few paragraphs remaining in the article. It has ~11 paragraphs by my count, and there were other significant effects like in Canada. -- HurricaneTracker495 ( talk) 02:14, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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