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All pictures related to this article are her when she was much younger. A lot of pictures for other Actors are more recent. Do we have a more recent picture of her? 124.254.78.121 ( talk) 22:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
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"In 1974, she purchased a two-story Bel Air home from Elvis Presley" ... —> two-storey
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"Storey" - British spelling. "Story" - American spelling. Which one is used should match the form of English used in the rest of the article (which, I admit, isn't overwhelmingly obvious). 24.61.4.237 ( talk) 20:15, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
As a native speaker of Hungarian, I just wanted to remark that the maiden name of Zsa Zsa's mother cannot have been "Tilleman Jánosné": This is a Hungarian married name, a composite of the male name "Tilleman János" with the suffix "né", literally translating to "Tilleman János's wife".
The article on Jolie Gábor states that her maiden name was Janka. I don't know whether this is correct, but at least it's not obviously impossible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.111.86.47 ( talk) 11:55, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
The current Wikipedia article today states that Ms. Gabor was hospitalized in early January of 2011 and subsequently had surgery "to have a portion of her right leg amputated below the knee after cancerous lesions were discovered by her doctors". According to a news article I read today the reason for the amputation was gangrene, not cancerous lesions. (Associated Press, March 2, 2011 "Zsa Zsa Gabor taken to hospital by ambulance": "Most of Gabor's right leg was amputated in January because of gangrene.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.111.228.43 ( talk) 23:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
In the "Personal life" section appears the following: "While Gabor was still married to Conrad Hilton, she once admitted to having sexual relations with her stepson Nicky, a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor's." This leads me to ask, he was a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor's what? Surely it should read as, "While Gabor was still married to Conrad Hilton, she once admitted to having sexual relations with her stepson Nicky, a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor." (i.e. without the 's) 142.140.230.53 ( talk) 16:03, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Use of the possessive is normal in cases like this. Would you say "he is a friend of mine" or "he is a friend of me"? 24.61.4.237 ( talk) 20:18, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
No, I would not, but that is not grammatically equivalent. I certainly could and would say "he was a friend of George Washington". "He was a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor's" might now be read to mean "a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor's husband", assuming of course that Liz's future ex was bisexual. 66.81.222.129 ( talk) 11:24, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
There's always a sudden influx of anonymous edits, a high proportion deleted, after celebrity news stories. But continuous death announcements are way out of line, if not dangerous. Is it time to semi-protect? It seems that if a contributor is not willing to take 15 seconds to sign up as a "serious" editor, they should not be allowed to post minutia or corrupt newsworthy articles.-- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 19:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I found it ironic that the only picture on the wiki page depicting her with men, the most prominent guy on it is international playboy Porfirio Rubirosa whom she had an affair with while he was married to Barbara Hutton. In his home-country the Dominican Republic he is quite well known for having had said affair. A story tells of the Dominican Presidential yacht that dictator Trujillo lent to his buddy Porfirio sailing into New York harbor with a large sign on the side announcing "Zsa Zsa Slept Here". It's anecdotal at best so I didn't write it up, but thought its interesting to note here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Singularity ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
In the "Legal difficulties" section, consider blotting out one or a few letters in the quoted profanity "This happens every f**king time I go shopping!!". Everyone who reads it, including young adults, will know exactly what Zsa Zsa said, while at the same time get the message that communities, including Wikipedia, have language standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.247.181 ( talk) 05:30, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
The info summary shows:
Conrad Hilton (1942–1946; divorced)
but in the more detailed Personal Life section, as well as numerous other websites, their marriage is said to have ended in 1947. — Preceding
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Can you add the category Category:Hungarian people to this bio? 69.125.134.86 ( talk) 14:12, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Wiki articles have trouble suggesting the pop culture importance of figures like Zsa Zsa. In this article she comes off as a minor actress, with no suggestion that she was a major celebrity, let's call it. Zsa Zsa was famous the way Paris Hilton or the Kardashians are famous-- and she stayed at that starring level of celebrity in the tabloids and gossip columns for a good forty years! That's no mean feat. She created a role, in the American mind, an ideal of European glamour combined with sex. Bob Hope, or later, Johnny Carson had only to say her first name and people were ready to laugh, knowing the role. She was not a film star, her starring role was as "Zsa Zsa" in the press and on talk shows, and she played Zsa Zsa perfectly for 40 years. Celebrity of this kind is itself a version of acting stardom. Profhum ( talk) 21:30, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
You're absolutely right. I was only making a point about fame, but you're quite right. Zsa Zsa was offering America something more sophisticated and elegant than their everyday life. Both Hilton and Kardashian, the exact opposite: they made porn movies of themselves. Only two years after my 2014 post, Paris Hilton has evaporated. Zsa Zsa, however, offered Americans a witty ideal of European sexual sophistication for forty years. Profhum ( talk) 06:50, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Could her name's pronunciation be changed to [ˈʒɑʒɑ ˈɡaːbɔr]? ( http://emmasaying.com/?s=Zsa+Zsa+Gabor) It's a lot closer to the Hungarian pronunciation. Kapostamas ( talk) 01:15, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
There reads: In 2011, her right leg was amputated above the knee to save her life from an infection.
"Above the knee"? The part of leg above the knee is thigh, so her thigh was amputated? It is called "above knee amputation" but there should read the leg below the knee is amputated. It might be okay to say it as it is, but to me that doesn't sound right.
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An infection in the foot will cause an amputation above the ankle, as insurance that all the infection is removed. Likewise, an infection in the leg can cause an amputation above the knee. This procedure was routine in the Civil War with bullet wounds to guard against gangrene. Lord Milner ( talk) 13:21, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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Gabor was imprisoned for 3 days for her assault against an officer.
165.228.193.248 ( talk) 07:31, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
the roles need to be in boxes. that way, its more coherent. If no one is willing to do that, i will start doing it. Any one support or oppose this? Winterysteppe ( talk) 21:52, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I have completed the revision of the filmography. converted it into actual tables. 04:57, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
The Television Section of her Filmography notes 1956 Milton Berie Show. Should be Milton Berle Show. Just a simple typo. TheMouseman1212 ( talk) 18:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
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12.204.201.20 ( talk) 19:09, 18 February 2016 (UTC) 1965 - 1971 Green Acres cast
That, of course, was her sister Eva. Ephraem 23:39, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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Why does the infobox claim that her birthday is either February 6, 1917 or that same day in 1918? The personal life section already says that her 99th birthday was February 6, 2016, where she was hospitalized two days later; that means her birthday obviously was in 1917 and not 1918. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.61.112.232 ( talk) 21:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Agreed Her birthday is February 6, 1917. IMDb confirms this. Mzimmerle ( talk) 20:34, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
IMDb is user edited; it's not inherently reliable & thus cannot confirm anything. Claims of her "Xth birthday" are the result of an oversimplification. Most articles, such as the NYT obit mentioned above, refer to her age as "believed to be", rather than "is". Just because some editors omit that or a contributor decided to drop those operative words, again, doesn't make it inherently reliable. 24.14.224.157 ( talk) 03:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Can anybody remove the BLP notice at the top of the page? I can't figure out how.
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Update- NEVER MIND. I figured it out.
In order to eliminate the ref tag in the filmography section, I propose to simply remove those films where there is no link to the film article or a separate source. And since most of those are for unknown films in which she probably had a small part, I don't think the article will be harmed. Anyone can feel free to cite them and add them back. -- Light show ( talk) 08:38, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
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63.149.188.52 ( talk) 14:06, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
She emigrated FROM Hungary She immigrated TO America
There is a difference
In this phrase "In his autobiography, television host Merv Griffin, who often squired Gabor younger sister Eva socially", please change "Gabor younger sister" to "Gabor's younger sister". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.252.18 ( talk) 17:28, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
It's obviously wrong for a drive-by editor who has never contributed to this bio before to cut relevant early life details without any valid reason, other than they apparently don't approve. Doing so by claiming that some details about Gabor's mother creates undue weight is ridiculous. The details, which in effect explain how Gabor even made it to the U.S. is important, if not vital, when the facts are from reliable sources. And coming from her mother's bio, makes it pretty reliable. Why anyone would drive by and undermine just this significant and brief part of her bio makes no sense. And despite the fact that it's been part of a stable bio for over five years, and the deleter has been told to discuss their rationale on the talk page and try to get consensus, they have ignored that request and prefer edit warring. -- Light show ( talk) 21:39, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
In the ITN/RD discussion for Alan Thicke, Masem implied that blue-linked articles would be an acceptable source, assuming Gabor was listed in that article as being in the cast. Is that a wrong interpretation? Most of the cn-tagged films have links to the film articles with her shown as a cast member. -- Light show ( talk) 23:25, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
In the sentence "The Gabor sisters were first cousins of Annette Lantos, wife of U.S. House Representative Tom Lantos (D-CA), the first Holocaust survivor elected to Congress." The fact that Lantos was a Holocaust survivor is not undue. It is a fact, and does not distract from the article.
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That pink box with text at the end of the article doesn't make any sense. It starts with the words "those words" with no clear reference. Remove it? Or clarify what it's about? MurielMary ( talk) 11:23, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Mademoiselle Gabor, you silly delight, we can't say for sure that you're about to meet a most beautiful creature; but we're grateful for the pleasure you gave, and the fun you conveyed in being that clever little fiction known as Zsa Zsa. It was divine knowing you.
Richard Corliss, American film critic "Zsa Zsa Gabor, Hollywood Actress Whose Best Role Was Herself, Dies at 99", Time, December 18, 2016.
While it makes for a romantic, dramatic, exciting kind of story, Zsa Zsa Gabor was never a Holocaust survivor (although this has been in the article prior, for years, since removed) and she did not escape the Nazis nor did she experience any of the Nazi Occupation of Hungary (just removed once again). Gabor left the country after divorcing her first husband in 1941. She left Hungary under normal circumstances, to go to the U.S. There, she joined her sister Eva who was already in the U.S. She married Conrad Hilton the following year. She was gadding about in New York and Hollywood when the Nazis occupied Budapest and the rest of Hungary. Including it in the article is dishonest and, as someone of Jewish ancestry, I see it as an insult and slap in the face to those who did experience the occupation and Holocaust by indicating there is truth to the story. I have included a Jerusalem Post article as a reference that states Gabor's mother left Budapest prior to the occupation, but that's as far as this needs to go. Even Jolie Gabor didn't truly "flee", she also left - albeit just in time - but this is the closest Gabor's immediate family came to being subjected to the horrors of the Nazis. And, there's also evidence that the Gabor women - like so many other Hungarians of Jewish ancestry - had converted to Catholicism long before immigrating to the United States. If that's the case, they were in no real danger to begin with. Whatever the case, the story of being Holocaust survivors is fiction and should neither be included nor implied in this BLP. It's inaccurate and insulting to do otherwise. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 13:49, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Gabor's mother barely escaped from Hungary after the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944. She credited Magda's lover with helping her: "For Magda's Portuguese Ambassador I thank God. It was this man who saved my life." (Adams, Cindy. Jolie Gabor, Mason/Charter Publ. (1975) pgs. 135-49, 173) Gabor's maternal grandmother and uncle Sebastian (Annette Lantos's father) chose to remain in Budapest feeling they "had a good place to hide". However, both died during a bombing by the U.S.-- Light show ( talk) 18:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
"Your opinion, your honor, about what someone needs to be legally declared a Holocaust survivor, is more than simplistic."Tell that to a whole host of rabbis, Holocaust experts, museums, and college professors. There is disagreement within the diaspora as to what the requirements are to be considered a Holocaust survivor. There's no disagreement within Israel, however, and the definition of "Holocaust" (which delves into the definition of someone who truly experienced it) at Yad Vashem (link to description/definition here: [1]). It's obvious you're not Jewish -- if you were, you would understand what I'm saying and why I'm saying it. You wouldn't be taking cheap pot shots to prove your point and further your agenda (whatever that actually is, I've not quite decided).
This is no longer a BLP article, as Gabor is no longer living. Dimadick ( talk) 18:26, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
I think before any unnecessary escalation everybody should calm down, initially the state of the article was false since it connected the German occupation - 1941 - and the cause of leaving regarding Zsa Zsa, that was inherently wrong.( KIENGIR ( talk) 19:11, 22 December 2016 (UTC))
Apparently, one of the adopted-in-name-only "sons" just died, as well. I don't think it deserves a mention since he wasn't actually a son and is trivia. Have removed the inclusion. Opinions? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 13:45, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Look at Frederic Prinz von Anhalt's article - something about his adoptions without Zsa Zsa. Samuelsenwd ( talk) 20:08, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes, saw it. Not really sons, but part of a business deal. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:14, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
On this article it says she married to her first spouse in 1937, yet on the spouse's article it says 1935 and I don't know which one is right. Does anyone know? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:27, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
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I revised the section on the timing of the emigration of Zsa Zsa and her mother from Hungary in order to improve clarity. This was reverted by Winkelvi on January 17, 2017. The current text does not make sense to me.
"While her mother escaped Hungary during the same time period of the Nazi occupation of Budapest, Gabor left the country in 1941, three years prior to the takeover."
What is the word "same" referring to? The same period as what? Was something removed and it used to say something like "While her mother and sister escaped ... during the same period of the takeover?" In this case "same" could mean that mother and sister left during the same period. But as it stands, I don't think it makes sense. Zsa Zsa left before the takeover, so "same" cannot refer to her leaving during the same period as her mother.
Here is what I wrote before it was reverted:
"While her mother escaped Hungary during the Nazi occupation of Budapest, Gabor left the country in 1941, three years prior to the takeover."
Maybe things can be clarified if someone explains to me what is wrong with this version. Thanks. Domandologo ( talk) 18:42, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
The sentence involving the Ceder Rapids article has a typo. The word "for" is missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.122.3.242 ( talk) 17:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
So, she's been dead for four years. Can the BLP be removed now please? Thank you! Gamle Kvitrafn ( talk) 21:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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In the Filmography, Television section, the listing for her 1991 appearance in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air has a typo. "Epiosde" should be changed to "Episode." 2600:1700:5A64:DDB0:2462:EBA8:16C9:B51C ( talk) 22:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Whatever happened to Meow Meow, Zsa Zsa's cat? Is she in cat heaven? Lord Milner ( talk) 13:26, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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There need to be some changes in the burial details for Zsa Zsa Gabor.
It is true that some part of the ashes are together with her Sister Eva Gabor at Westwood Memorial Park in Los Angeles and not in the gold urn. More then 4,5 years her last husband took the other part of her ashes home in that golden urn. This large part of ashes was yesterday buried at Kerepesi Cemetery at Budapest (Parzelle 41) . From this ashes, her husband took again some parts to take it home or traveling around the world. It would be great if some body can fix this informations ..... Greetings from Hamburg, Parsifal von Pallandt Benedetto16 ( talk) 19:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Zia Zsa Gabor acted in a couple episodes of The Love Boat in 1977, but that’s not mentioned in her career section. And it should be. Just saying 174.214.0.54 ( talk) 04:40, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
It' impossible for her to have a relationship with Mustada Kemal Atatürk. He died in 1938 when she was 21 years old. She didn't come to Turkey, neither did Aratürk go to the USA. However she had a relationship with the Turkish actor Muzaffer Tema. 212.253.204.216 ( talk) 11:14, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Jolie Gabor; Vilmos Gábor; History of the Jews in Portugal#Portuguese Ambassador in Budapest, 1944; Carlos Sampaio Garrido#Gabor family
Diplomatic telegrams regarding Gabors in Budapest and Switzerland :
(1944-07-08): Vilmos Gabor and Ganka Gabor. They were formerly owners of one of the prominent jewelry stores in Budapest, and we are informed that the Portuguese Embassy ... (1944-07-11): Information received here to the effect that Portugese legation Budapest has extended refuge to Vilmos and Ganka Gabor, Hungarian Jews who are the parents of Mrs. Conrad N. Hilton the wife of an American citizen. The Portugese Minister Budapest is reported to have arrived in Switzerland with another daughter Magda Bichovska.
The quote: "She's a woman from the court of Louis XV who has somehow managed to live in the 20th century, undamaged by the PTA ..." references the article on parent-teacher association. In 2021 someone asked to clarify the term PTA and the link got inserted. But what is that supposed to mean in this context? That she seems above boring everyday life of regular people? I find the quote more confusing than helpful.-- 176.199.18.181 ( talk) 07:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Theatre credits: Please change year of Der singende Traum to 1934
According to the comprehensive Staggs biography, she debuted in Der singende Traum in August 1934 and this is stated in the Career section. But the Theatre section wrongly lists Der singende Traum as a credit from 1935. The latter needs to be corrected. PromQueenCarrie ( talk) 09:08, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
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ADD: Citizenship: Hungary (1917-1935), Turkey (1935-1949), United States (1949-death) Confirmed through declassified FBI files: https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/zsa-zsa-gabor-fbi-30946/#file-202782 Zzg1917 ( talk) 12:43, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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Add Turkish Citizenship between 1935 and 1949. As a result of her marriage to Burhan Belge, she gained Turkish citizenship and a Diplomatic passport, which she used to emigrate to the USA in 1941. She naturalized as a US citizen in 1949.
This is outlined in the FBI files which were declassified in 2019: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2018/aug/03/fbi-zsa-zsa/ Zzg1917 ( talk) 20:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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CHANGE INFO BOX CITIZENSHIP SECTION FROM “HUNGARY - UNITED STATES” TO “HUNGARY - TURKEY - UNITED STATES.”
Change “citizenship” section to show “Turkey” between “Hungary” and “United States.” Zsa Zsa had Turkish Citizenship between 1935 and 1949. As a result of her marriage to Burhan Belge, she gained Turkish citizenship and a Diplomatic passport, which she used to emigrate to the USA in 1941. She naturalized as a US citizen in 1949.
SOURCE: This is outlined in the FBI files which were declassified in 2019: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2018/aug/03/fbi-zsa-zsa/ Zzg1917 ( talk) 01:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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All pictures related to this article are her when she was much younger. A lot of pictures for other Actors are more recent. Do we have a more recent picture of her? 124.254.78.121 ( talk) 22:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
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"In 1974, she purchased a two-story Bel Air home from Elvis Presley" ... —> two-storey
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"Storey" - British spelling. "Story" - American spelling. Which one is used should match the form of English used in the rest of the article (which, I admit, isn't overwhelmingly obvious). 24.61.4.237 ( talk) 20:15, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
As a native speaker of Hungarian, I just wanted to remark that the maiden name of Zsa Zsa's mother cannot have been "Tilleman Jánosné": This is a Hungarian married name, a composite of the male name "Tilleman János" with the suffix "né", literally translating to "Tilleman János's wife".
The article on Jolie Gábor states that her maiden name was Janka. I don't know whether this is correct, but at least it's not obviously impossible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.111.86.47 ( talk) 11:55, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
The current Wikipedia article today states that Ms. Gabor was hospitalized in early January of 2011 and subsequently had surgery "to have a portion of her right leg amputated below the knee after cancerous lesions were discovered by her doctors". According to a news article I read today the reason for the amputation was gangrene, not cancerous lesions. (Associated Press, March 2, 2011 "Zsa Zsa Gabor taken to hospital by ambulance": "Most of Gabor's right leg was amputated in January because of gangrene.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.111.228.43 ( talk) 23:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
In the "Personal life" section appears the following: "While Gabor was still married to Conrad Hilton, she once admitted to having sexual relations with her stepson Nicky, a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor's." This leads me to ask, he was a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor's what? Surely it should read as, "While Gabor was still married to Conrad Hilton, she once admitted to having sexual relations with her stepson Nicky, a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor." (i.e. without the 's) 142.140.230.53 ( talk) 16:03, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Use of the possessive is normal in cases like this. Would you say "he is a friend of mine" or "he is a friend of me"? 24.61.4.237 ( talk) 20:18, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
No, I would not, but that is not grammatically equivalent. I certainly could and would say "he was a friend of George Washington". "He was a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor's" might now be read to mean "a future husband of Elizabeth Taylor's husband", assuming of course that Liz's future ex was bisexual. 66.81.222.129 ( talk) 11:24, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
There's always a sudden influx of anonymous edits, a high proportion deleted, after celebrity news stories. But continuous death announcements are way out of line, if not dangerous. Is it time to semi-protect? It seems that if a contributor is not willing to take 15 seconds to sign up as a "serious" editor, they should not be allowed to post minutia or corrupt newsworthy articles.-- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 19:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I found it ironic that the only picture on the wiki page depicting her with men, the most prominent guy on it is international playboy Porfirio Rubirosa whom she had an affair with while he was married to Barbara Hutton. In his home-country the Dominican Republic he is quite well known for having had said affair. A story tells of the Dominican Presidential yacht that dictator Trujillo lent to his buddy Porfirio sailing into New York harbor with a large sign on the side announcing "Zsa Zsa Slept Here". It's anecdotal at best so I didn't write it up, but thought its interesting to note here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Singularity ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
In the "Legal difficulties" section, consider blotting out one or a few letters in the quoted profanity "This happens every f**king time I go shopping!!". Everyone who reads it, including young adults, will know exactly what Zsa Zsa said, while at the same time get the message that communities, including Wikipedia, have language standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.247.181 ( talk) 05:30, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
The info summary shows:
Conrad Hilton (1942–1946; divorced)
but in the more detailed Personal Life section, as well as numerous other websites, their marriage is said to have ended in 1947. — Preceding
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Can you add the category Category:Hungarian people to this bio? 69.125.134.86 ( talk) 14:12, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Wiki articles have trouble suggesting the pop culture importance of figures like Zsa Zsa. In this article she comes off as a minor actress, with no suggestion that she was a major celebrity, let's call it. Zsa Zsa was famous the way Paris Hilton or the Kardashians are famous-- and she stayed at that starring level of celebrity in the tabloids and gossip columns for a good forty years! That's no mean feat. She created a role, in the American mind, an ideal of European glamour combined with sex. Bob Hope, or later, Johnny Carson had only to say her first name and people were ready to laugh, knowing the role. She was not a film star, her starring role was as "Zsa Zsa" in the press and on talk shows, and she played Zsa Zsa perfectly for 40 years. Celebrity of this kind is itself a version of acting stardom. Profhum ( talk) 21:30, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
You're absolutely right. I was only making a point about fame, but you're quite right. Zsa Zsa was offering America something more sophisticated and elegant than their everyday life. Both Hilton and Kardashian, the exact opposite: they made porn movies of themselves. Only two years after my 2014 post, Paris Hilton has evaporated. Zsa Zsa, however, offered Americans a witty ideal of European sexual sophistication for forty years. Profhum ( talk) 06:50, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Could her name's pronunciation be changed to [ˈʒɑʒɑ ˈɡaːbɔr]? ( http://emmasaying.com/?s=Zsa+Zsa+Gabor) It's a lot closer to the Hungarian pronunciation. Kapostamas ( talk) 01:15, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
There reads: In 2011, her right leg was amputated above the knee to save her life from an infection.
"Above the knee"? The part of leg above the knee is thigh, so her thigh was amputated? It is called "above knee amputation" but there should read the leg below the knee is amputated. It might be okay to say it as it is, but to me that doesn't sound right.
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An infection in the foot will cause an amputation above the ankle, as insurance that all the infection is removed. Likewise, an infection in the leg can cause an amputation above the knee. This procedure was routine in the Civil War with bullet wounds to guard against gangrene. Lord Milner ( talk) 13:21, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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Gabor was imprisoned for 3 days for her assault against an officer.
165.228.193.248 ( talk) 07:31, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
the roles need to be in boxes. that way, its more coherent. If no one is willing to do that, i will start doing it. Any one support or oppose this? Winterysteppe ( talk) 21:52, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I have completed the revision of the filmography. converted it into actual tables. 04:57, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
The Television Section of her Filmography notes 1956 Milton Berie Show. Should be Milton Berle Show. Just a simple typo. TheMouseman1212 ( talk) 18:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
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12.204.201.20 ( talk) 19:09, 18 February 2016 (UTC) 1965 - 1971 Green Acres cast
That, of course, was her sister Eva. Ephraem 23:39, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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Why does the infobox claim that her birthday is either February 6, 1917 or that same day in 1918? The personal life section already says that her 99th birthday was February 6, 2016, where she was hospitalized two days later; that means her birthday obviously was in 1917 and not 1918. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.61.112.232 ( talk) 21:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Agreed Her birthday is February 6, 1917. IMDb confirms this. Mzimmerle ( talk) 20:34, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
IMDb is user edited; it's not inherently reliable & thus cannot confirm anything. Claims of her "Xth birthday" are the result of an oversimplification. Most articles, such as the NYT obit mentioned above, refer to her age as "believed to be", rather than "is". Just because some editors omit that or a contributor decided to drop those operative words, again, doesn't make it inherently reliable. 24.14.224.157 ( talk) 03:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Can anybody remove the BLP notice at the top of the page? I can't figure out how.
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Update- NEVER MIND. I figured it out.
In order to eliminate the ref tag in the filmography section, I propose to simply remove those films where there is no link to the film article or a separate source. And since most of those are for unknown films in which she probably had a small part, I don't think the article will be harmed. Anyone can feel free to cite them and add them back. -- Light show ( talk) 08:38, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
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She emigrated FROM Hungary She immigrated TO America
There is a difference
In this phrase "In his autobiography, television host Merv Griffin, who often squired Gabor younger sister Eva socially", please change "Gabor younger sister" to "Gabor's younger sister". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.252.18 ( talk) 17:28, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
It's obviously wrong for a drive-by editor who has never contributed to this bio before to cut relevant early life details without any valid reason, other than they apparently don't approve. Doing so by claiming that some details about Gabor's mother creates undue weight is ridiculous. The details, which in effect explain how Gabor even made it to the U.S. is important, if not vital, when the facts are from reliable sources. And coming from her mother's bio, makes it pretty reliable. Why anyone would drive by and undermine just this significant and brief part of her bio makes no sense. And despite the fact that it's been part of a stable bio for over five years, and the deleter has been told to discuss their rationale on the talk page and try to get consensus, they have ignored that request and prefer edit warring. -- Light show ( talk) 21:39, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
In the ITN/RD discussion for Alan Thicke, Masem implied that blue-linked articles would be an acceptable source, assuming Gabor was listed in that article as being in the cast. Is that a wrong interpretation? Most of the cn-tagged films have links to the film articles with her shown as a cast member. -- Light show ( talk) 23:25, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
In the sentence "The Gabor sisters were first cousins of Annette Lantos, wife of U.S. House Representative Tom Lantos (D-CA), the first Holocaust survivor elected to Congress." The fact that Lantos was a Holocaust survivor is not undue. It is a fact, and does not distract from the article.
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That pink box with text at the end of the article doesn't make any sense. It starts with the words "those words" with no clear reference. Remove it? Or clarify what it's about? MurielMary ( talk) 11:23, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Mademoiselle Gabor, you silly delight, we can't say for sure that you're about to meet a most beautiful creature; but we're grateful for the pleasure you gave, and the fun you conveyed in being that clever little fiction known as Zsa Zsa. It was divine knowing you.
Richard Corliss, American film critic "Zsa Zsa Gabor, Hollywood Actress Whose Best Role Was Herself, Dies at 99", Time, December 18, 2016.
While it makes for a romantic, dramatic, exciting kind of story, Zsa Zsa Gabor was never a Holocaust survivor (although this has been in the article prior, for years, since removed) and she did not escape the Nazis nor did she experience any of the Nazi Occupation of Hungary (just removed once again). Gabor left the country after divorcing her first husband in 1941. She left Hungary under normal circumstances, to go to the U.S. There, she joined her sister Eva who was already in the U.S. She married Conrad Hilton the following year. She was gadding about in New York and Hollywood when the Nazis occupied Budapest and the rest of Hungary. Including it in the article is dishonest and, as someone of Jewish ancestry, I see it as an insult and slap in the face to those who did experience the occupation and Holocaust by indicating there is truth to the story. I have included a Jerusalem Post article as a reference that states Gabor's mother left Budapest prior to the occupation, but that's as far as this needs to go. Even Jolie Gabor didn't truly "flee", she also left - albeit just in time - but this is the closest Gabor's immediate family came to being subjected to the horrors of the Nazis. And, there's also evidence that the Gabor women - like so many other Hungarians of Jewish ancestry - had converted to Catholicism long before immigrating to the United States. If that's the case, they were in no real danger to begin with. Whatever the case, the story of being Holocaust survivors is fiction and should neither be included nor implied in this BLP. It's inaccurate and insulting to do otherwise. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 13:49, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Gabor's mother barely escaped from Hungary after the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944. She credited Magda's lover with helping her: "For Magda's Portuguese Ambassador I thank God. It was this man who saved my life." (Adams, Cindy. Jolie Gabor, Mason/Charter Publ. (1975) pgs. 135-49, 173) Gabor's maternal grandmother and uncle Sebastian (Annette Lantos's father) chose to remain in Budapest feeling they "had a good place to hide". However, both died during a bombing by the U.S.-- Light show ( talk) 18:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
"Your opinion, your honor, about what someone needs to be legally declared a Holocaust survivor, is more than simplistic."Tell that to a whole host of rabbis, Holocaust experts, museums, and college professors. There is disagreement within the diaspora as to what the requirements are to be considered a Holocaust survivor. There's no disagreement within Israel, however, and the definition of "Holocaust" (which delves into the definition of someone who truly experienced it) at Yad Vashem (link to description/definition here: [1]). It's obvious you're not Jewish -- if you were, you would understand what I'm saying and why I'm saying it. You wouldn't be taking cheap pot shots to prove your point and further your agenda (whatever that actually is, I've not quite decided).
This is no longer a BLP article, as Gabor is no longer living. Dimadick ( talk) 18:26, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
I think before any unnecessary escalation everybody should calm down, initially the state of the article was false since it connected the German occupation - 1941 - and the cause of leaving regarding Zsa Zsa, that was inherently wrong.( KIENGIR ( talk) 19:11, 22 December 2016 (UTC))
Apparently, one of the adopted-in-name-only "sons" just died, as well. I don't think it deserves a mention since he wasn't actually a son and is trivia. Have removed the inclusion. Opinions? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 13:45, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Look at Frederic Prinz von Anhalt's article - something about his adoptions without Zsa Zsa. Samuelsenwd ( talk) 20:08, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes, saw it. Not really sons, but part of a business deal. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:14, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
On this article it says she married to her first spouse in 1937, yet on the spouse's article it says 1935 and I don't know which one is right. Does anyone know? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:27, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
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I revised the section on the timing of the emigration of Zsa Zsa and her mother from Hungary in order to improve clarity. This was reverted by Winkelvi on January 17, 2017. The current text does not make sense to me.
"While her mother escaped Hungary during the same time period of the Nazi occupation of Budapest, Gabor left the country in 1941, three years prior to the takeover."
What is the word "same" referring to? The same period as what? Was something removed and it used to say something like "While her mother and sister escaped ... during the same period of the takeover?" In this case "same" could mean that mother and sister left during the same period. But as it stands, I don't think it makes sense. Zsa Zsa left before the takeover, so "same" cannot refer to her leaving during the same period as her mother.
Here is what I wrote before it was reverted:
"While her mother escaped Hungary during the Nazi occupation of Budapest, Gabor left the country in 1941, three years prior to the takeover."
Maybe things can be clarified if someone explains to me what is wrong with this version. Thanks. Domandologo ( talk) 18:42, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
The sentence involving the Ceder Rapids article has a typo. The word "for" is missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.122.3.242 ( talk) 17:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
So, she's been dead for four years. Can the BLP be removed now please? Thank you! Gamle Kvitrafn ( talk) 21:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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In the Filmography, Television section, the listing for her 1991 appearance in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air has a typo. "Epiosde" should be changed to "Episode." 2600:1700:5A64:DDB0:2462:EBA8:16C9:B51C ( talk) 22:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Whatever happened to Meow Meow, Zsa Zsa's cat? Is she in cat heaven? Lord Milner ( talk) 13:26, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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There need to be some changes in the burial details for Zsa Zsa Gabor.
It is true that some part of the ashes are together with her Sister Eva Gabor at Westwood Memorial Park in Los Angeles and not in the gold urn. More then 4,5 years her last husband took the other part of her ashes home in that golden urn. This large part of ashes was yesterday buried at Kerepesi Cemetery at Budapest (Parzelle 41) . From this ashes, her husband took again some parts to take it home or traveling around the world. It would be great if some body can fix this informations ..... Greetings from Hamburg, Parsifal von Pallandt Benedetto16 ( talk) 19:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Zia Zsa Gabor acted in a couple episodes of The Love Boat in 1977, but that’s not mentioned in her career section. And it should be. Just saying 174.214.0.54 ( talk) 04:40, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
It' impossible for her to have a relationship with Mustada Kemal Atatürk. He died in 1938 when she was 21 years old. She didn't come to Turkey, neither did Aratürk go to the USA. However she had a relationship with the Turkish actor Muzaffer Tema. 212.253.204.216 ( talk) 11:14, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Jolie Gabor; Vilmos Gábor; History of the Jews in Portugal#Portuguese Ambassador in Budapest, 1944; Carlos Sampaio Garrido#Gabor family
Diplomatic telegrams regarding Gabors in Budapest and Switzerland :
(1944-07-08): Vilmos Gabor and Ganka Gabor. They were formerly owners of one of the prominent jewelry stores in Budapest, and we are informed that the Portuguese Embassy ... (1944-07-11): Information received here to the effect that Portugese legation Budapest has extended refuge to Vilmos and Ganka Gabor, Hungarian Jews who are the parents of Mrs. Conrad N. Hilton the wife of an American citizen. The Portugese Minister Budapest is reported to have arrived in Switzerland with another daughter Magda Bichovska.
The quote: "She's a woman from the court of Louis XV who has somehow managed to live in the 20th century, undamaged by the PTA ..." references the article on parent-teacher association. In 2021 someone asked to clarify the term PTA and the link got inserted. But what is that supposed to mean in this context? That she seems above boring everyday life of regular people? I find the quote more confusing than helpful.-- 176.199.18.181 ( talk) 07:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Theatre credits: Please change year of Der singende Traum to 1934
According to the comprehensive Staggs biography, she debuted in Der singende Traum in August 1934 and this is stated in the Career section. But the Theatre section wrongly lists Der singende Traum as a credit from 1935. The latter needs to be corrected. PromQueenCarrie ( talk) 09:08, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
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ADD: Citizenship: Hungary (1917-1935), Turkey (1935-1949), United States (1949-death) Confirmed through declassified FBI files: https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/zsa-zsa-gabor-fbi-30946/#file-202782 Zzg1917 ( talk) 12:43, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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Add Turkish Citizenship between 1935 and 1949. As a result of her marriage to Burhan Belge, she gained Turkish citizenship and a Diplomatic passport, which she used to emigrate to the USA in 1941. She naturalized as a US citizen in 1949.
This is outlined in the FBI files which were declassified in 2019: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2018/aug/03/fbi-zsa-zsa/ Zzg1917 ( talk) 20:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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CHANGE INFO BOX CITIZENSHIP SECTION FROM “HUNGARY - UNITED STATES” TO “HUNGARY - TURKEY - UNITED STATES.”
Change “citizenship” section to show “Turkey” between “Hungary” and “United States.” Zsa Zsa had Turkish Citizenship between 1935 and 1949. As a result of her marriage to Burhan Belge, she gained Turkish citizenship and a Diplomatic passport, which she used to emigrate to the USA in 1941. She naturalized as a US citizen in 1949.
SOURCE: This is outlined in the FBI files which were declassified in 2019: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2018/aug/03/fbi-zsa-zsa/ Zzg1917 ( talk) 01:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)