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Long time Wikipedia fan, rare editor here. I tweaked a small section of the history of the home video releases to tone down some of the language used within the home video releases. I noticed how it stated hardcore fans were angered by the framing and picture quality of the VHS as well as the picture quality of the Anchor Bay DVD. Such a bold blanket statement of uproar amongst fans would, IMHO, needs a citation which was not given. Seems based more on assumptions than concrete fact. So I toned it down a bit. A minor thing but if anyone has an issue, I will not be upset if the changes are reversed as I do not edit very often and do not have the same feel for editing as others do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.9.203.94 ( talk) 22:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
The police boat is not wearing the French tricolor. It's the New York Flag, a tricolor with a mark in the middle.
I don't believe the MPAA has a rule such as is claimed in that section.
In the scene in which Peter West is given the assignemnt to investigate the killing of a policeman on the boat (from the opening scene), the editor (Lucio Fulci) tells West that he should not "take advanteage that his father owns the newspaper". In the original Italian soundtrack, he is really telling West "not to fall in love with the first prostitute ("putanna") he meets." I wonder how much more dialogue is purposely mis-translated in the film as well.
I am very confused about the Zombie 2 series from this article and from IMDb. Could someone please clarify this for me? The following is the order of the Zombie 2 series films with the alternate titles from IMDb. One list gives only 3 in the series, another gives 4, and yet others give 5. Which is right, or are they all right, and IMDb missed a film. Lady Aleena 12:30, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Some quotes from Peter Dendle's The Zombie Movie Encyclopedia relevant to the so-called Zombie series:
Zombi 3: "Despite the name, this outing has nothing to do with the characters or events of Zombi 2." (Dendle 193) Zombi 2: "Romero's Dawn of the Dead was a huge success in Europe, and imitations began appearing almost immediately. Fulci's Zombi 2 was among the first and the best of these (to cash in on the success of Dawn, whose European release title was Zombi, Fulci shamelessly named his unrelated movie Zombi 2)." (Dendle 194) Zombie 5: "Though Usher's assistant Morpho is pretty ugly, there are no zombies. Obviously the distributors who circulated the English-language video prints under the title Zombie 5 couldn't find anything of promotional use in the rambling, pretentious, and outdated yard itself." (Dendle 198). Шизомби 04:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Zombie 6: Monster Hunter: "Massaccesi's boring formula-slasher Anthropophagus II has only the thinnest connection with zombies, but was given the deceptive title Zombie 6 in certain English-language video releases anyway, [...] Jess Franco's A Virgin Among the Living Dead (1971) was re-dubbed Zombie 4 in some release prints. His boring Neurosis (better known in English as Revenge of the House of Usher) was renamed Zombie 5 when dubbed into English and put to video, though there's nothing even remotely like a zombie in it. Just for the record, no movie named Zombie plus a number has anything to do with any other numbered Zombie movie, even those by the same director (Lucio Fulci did both Zombi 2 and Zombi 3). To illustrate how confused matters can get, consider that Bianchi's Le notti del terrore (1980) has also circulated as Zombie 3, that Fulci's Zombi 2 was released in North America as Zombie, and that Romero's Dawn of the Dead was released in Europe as Zombi. Ironically, despite all this enumeration, no movie has yet been made whose original title is just plain Zombie." (Dendle 198-199).
Though Dendle didn't mention it, the Dutch director Richard Raaphorst had a bit of fun with the number zombie movies by naming his zombie comedy/horror short Zombi 1 (1995) [1]. Шизомби 05:08, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The version I've got of the movie is in english, and with barely no connection between lip movement and speech (with other word: it is dubbed). Further, the DVD has no meny, no chapter, and only subtitles in one language (swedish), which can't be turned of. Shouldn't there be a mention of any dubbed versions in the article? -- Konstantin 17:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
£410 million? Shurely shum mishtake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.112.171 ( talk) 18:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Corrected, 410,000,000 lira equv to around 8,000,000 USD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.129.59 ( talk) 19:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
$8 million USD may be a small budget in 2016, but in 1979 you could almost film "Star Wars" for that kind of money.
Lucio Fulci's horror films were done on small, shoestring budgets. $800K is even too large a budget for the type of film that was usually commissioned from Italian filmmakers at the time.
Looking in a webpage that holds historic Italian Lira to USD conversion rates, we see that - on June 15 1979 - a midmark point, $1 USD = 851 Lire.
So if we take the given number of 410 Million Lire and divide it by 851 we get $481,780 USD, which is more realistic than the $8 Million budget shown above.
If you get the 2 DVD special edition Zombie, where the producers, actors and behind the scenes people are interviewed, the producer mentions that they sold the rights to Zombie to distributors
for about $1 Million USD - a 100+% profit over their cost, but that the movie went on to become such a worldwide success, that it ended up earning many more times that amount. — Preceding
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This article is missing information on the film's production making the article incomplete, this should be added to the article in order to complete the information on the article.-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 22:58, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
The video nasty section should either be deleted or have citations added to it considering that it lacks any citations that would prove the information that it has.-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 18:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
This is without a doubt the most poorly written and developed article on wikipiedia. It is poorly written, many sections are either unsourced, or are missing proper citations while other sections are not properly developed. I have already added a rewrite tag to the article and hopefully this article will get the attention it deserves.-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 17:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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"Island of the Living Dead" is a completely different movie that can out in (2007). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.170.255 ( talk) 21:08, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
An editor has now upon three occcasions removed the cast names from the plot section and added a cast list, on the basis that other articles have them. There is no mandated form for film cast lists in articles. WP:FILMCAST states "A basic cast list in a "Cast" section is appropriate for the majority of Stub-class articles. When the article is in an advanced stage of development, information about the cast can be presented in other ways. " A dedicated section may be justified to provide context for casting details, but this isn't what is being doing here. An editor is simply removing the names from the plot summary (where they are arguably more helpful) and grouping them together as a bare list. In many cases it is just providing the same information and making it less useful. In cases where the casting information is established the form should not be altered without consultation, especially when the alterations are challenged. Betty Logan ( talk) 21:04, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Again, separate sections for plot and cast is ***established practice*** on this site, even for advanced articles, including featuring notable names (whether in Italian genre cinema, or otherwise). Just about every other Fulci film on this site has a separate plot summary and cast list. Also, the separate sections are more aesthetically pleasing. I'm sitting here laughing, thinking how outrageously petty and insular this is.... If you're attempting to chase new people off this site with your attitude, you're doing a good job. Prestbury+2000 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:20, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
It takes TWO to tango, and your fixation on "one established practice" and your ridiculously overzealous editing and instant clamping down on other contributors (as a glance at your history shows) means there's no productive discussion to be had here. Prestbury+2000 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:28, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Cast lists should be separate from plot summaries, as it makes them clearer and easier to read. But just forget it. I can't be bothered going through this crap just because of a credits list. Prestbury+2000 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:10, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Just so I understand, I know that Grapple X has removed the "3 billion" and changed it back as it is a European film. I don't really understand this and am not sure how to google it to figure it out. Why is it not like this in Europe? Could you explain it here? If it is specifically different enough than actually reading it, perhaps a footnote in the article could be added. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 08:29, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
It is widely referred to as Zombie Flesh Eaters. 93.72.140.2 ( talk) 17:33, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
I've edited and clarified the running time on its original theatrical release per the Monthly Film Bulletin source. The editor had previously added content, and per their edit history, it seems to be a running time, but has been adding it in ways that go against the infobox standards on running time. I've added a source via the monthly film bulletin, which states the UK running time of a film on its theatrical release, and if its been cut down from the original run time. I believe this should clarify information. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 04:26, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Looking over this article, I noticed there are a couple of pieces of information absent from the article, notably information on the makeup/special effects. This needs to be added to the article as a sub-section in the production section with proper citations from reliable sources. Also there is no information on the film's impact and legacy, the influence and the cultural impact was pretty significant from what I have seen. Paleface Jack ( talk) 20:17, 22 June 2023 (UTC) I am including the links to the film's inclusion of lists for the greatest zombie films of all time:
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Long time Wikipedia fan, rare editor here. I tweaked a small section of the history of the home video releases to tone down some of the language used within the home video releases. I noticed how it stated hardcore fans were angered by the framing and picture quality of the VHS as well as the picture quality of the Anchor Bay DVD. Such a bold blanket statement of uproar amongst fans would, IMHO, needs a citation which was not given. Seems based more on assumptions than concrete fact. So I toned it down a bit. A minor thing but if anyone has an issue, I will not be upset if the changes are reversed as I do not edit very often and do not have the same feel for editing as others do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.9.203.94 ( talk) 22:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
The police boat is not wearing the French tricolor. It's the New York Flag, a tricolor with a mark in the middle.
I don't believe the MPAA has a rule such as is claimed in that section.
In the scene in which Peter West is given the assignemnt to investigate the killing of a policeman on the boat (from the opening scene), the editor (Lucio Fulci) tells West that he should not "take advanteage that his father owns the newspaper". In the original Italian soundtrack, he is really telling West "not to fall in love with the first prostitute ("putanna") he meets." I wonder how much more dialogue is purposely mis-translated in the film as well.
I am very confused about the Zombie 2 series from this article and from IMDb. Could someone please clarify this for me? The following is the order of the Zombie 2 series films with the alternate titles from IMDb. One list gives only 3 in the series, another gives 4, and yet others give 5. Which is right, or are they all right, and IMDb missed a film. Lady Aleena 12:30, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Some quotes from Peter Dendle's The Zombie Movie Encyclopedia relevant to the so-called Zombie series:
Zombi 3: "Despite the name, this outing has nothing to do with the characters or events of Zombi 2." (Dendle 193) Zombi 2: "Romero's Dawn of the Dead was a huge success in Europe, and imitations began appearing almost immediately. Fulci's Zombi 2 was among the first and the best of these (to cash in on the success of Dawn, whose European release title was Zombi, Fulci shamelessly named his unrelated movie Zombi 2)." (Dendle 194) Zombie 5: "Though Usher's assistant Morpho is pretty ugly, there are no zombies. Obviously the distributors who circulated the English-language video prints under the title Zombie 5 couldn't find anything of promotional use in the rambling, pretentious, and outdated yard itself." (Dendle 198). Шизомби 04:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Zombie 6: Monster Hunter: "Massaccesi's boring formula-slasher Anthropophagus II has only the thinnest connection with zombies, but was given the deceptive title Zombie 6 in certain English-language video releases anyway, [...] Jess Franco's A Virgin Among the Living Dead (1971) was re-dubbed Zombie 4 in some release prints. His boring Neurosis (better known in English as Revenge of the House of Usher) was renamed Zombie 5 when dubbed into English and put to video, though there's nothing even remotely like a zombie in it. Just for the record, no movie named Zombie plus a number has anything to do with any other numbered Zombie movie, even those by the same director (Lucio Fulci did both Zombi 2 and Zombi 3). To illustrate how confused matters can get, consider that Bianchi's Le notti del terrore (1980) has also circulated as Zombie 3, that Fulci's Zombi 2 was released in North America as Zombie, and that Romero's Dawn of the Dead was released in Europe as Zombi. Ironically, despite all this enumeration, no movie has yet been made whose original title is just plain Zombie." (Dendle 198-199).
Though Dendle didn't mention it, the Dutch director Richard Raaphorst had a bit of fun with the number zombie movies by naming his zombie comedy/horror short Zombi 1 (1995) [1]. Шизомби 05:08, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The version I've got of the movie is in english, and with barely no connection between lip movement and speech (with other word: it is dubbed). Further, the DVD has no meny, no chapter, and only subtitles in one language (swedish), which can't be turned of. Shouldn't there be a mention of any dubbed versions in the article? -- Konstantin 17:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
£410 million? Shurely shum mishtake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.112.171 ( talk) 18:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Corrected, 410,000,000 lira equv to around 8,000,000 USD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.129.59 ( talk) 19:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
$8 million USD may be a small budget in 2016, but in 1979 you could almost film "Star Wars" for that kind of money.
Lucio Fulci's horror films were done on small, shoestring budgets. $800K is even too large a budget for the type of film that was usually commissioned from Italian filmmakers at the time.
Looking in a webpage that holds historic Italian Lira to USD conversion rates, we see that - on June 15 1979 - a midmark point, $1 USD = 851 Lire.
So if we take the given number of 410 Million Lire and divide it by 851 we get $481,780 USD, which is more realistic than the $8 Million budget shown above.
If you get the 2 DVD special edition Zombie, where the producers, actors and behind the scenes people are interviewed, the producer mentions that they sold the rights to Zombie to distributors
for about $1 Million USD - a 100+% profit over their cost, but that the movie went on to become such a worldwide success, that it ended up earning many more times that amount. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
97.100.245.248 (
talk)
14:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
This article is missing information on the film's production making the article incomplete, this should be added to the article in order to complete the information on the article.-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 22:58, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
The video nasty section should either be deleted or have citations added to it considering that it lacks any citations that would prove the information that it has.-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 18:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
This is without a doubt the most poorly written and developed article on wikipiedia. It is poorly written, many sections are either unsourced, or are missing proper citations while other sections are not properly developed. I have already added a rewrite tag to the article and hopefully this article will get the attention it deserves.-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 17:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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"Island of the Living Dead" is a completely different movie that can out in (2007). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.170.255 ( talk) 21:08, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
An editor has now upon three occcasions removed the cast names from the plot section and added a cast list, on the basis that other articles have them. There is no mandated form for film cast lists in articles. WP:FILMCAST states "A basic cast list in a "Cast" section is appropriate for the majority of Stub-class articles. When the article is in an advanced stage of development, information about the cast can be presented in other ways. " A dedicated section may be justified to provide context for casting details, but this isn't what is being doing here. An editor is simply removing the names from the plot summary (where they are arguably more helpful) and grouping them together as a bare list. In many cases it is just providing the same information and making it less useful. In cases where the casting information is established the form should not be altered without consultation, especially when the alterations are challenged. Betty Logan ( talk) 21:04, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Again, separate sections for plot and cast is ***established practice*** on this site, even for advanced articles, including featuring notable names (whether in Italian genre cinema, or otherwise). Just about every other Fulci film on this site has a separate plot summary and cast list. Also, the separate sections are more aesthetically pleasing. I'm sitting here laughing, thinking how outrageously petty and insular this is.... If you're attempting to chase new people off this site with your attitude, you're doing a good job. Prestbury+2000 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:20, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
It takes TWO to tango, and your fixation on "one established practice" and your ridiculously overzealous editing and instant clamping down on other contributors (as a glance at your history shows) means there's no productive discussion to be had here. Prestbury+2000 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:28, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Cast lists should be separate from plot summaries, as it makes them clearer and easier to read. But just forget it. I can't be bothered going through this crap just because of a credits list. Prestbury+2000 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:10, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Just so I understand, I know that Grapple X has removed the "3 billion" and changed it back as it is a European film. I don't really understand this and am not sure how to google it to figure it out. Why is it not like this in Europe? Could you explain it here? If it is specifically different enough than actually reading it, perhaps a footnote in the article could be added. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 08:29, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
It is widely referred to as Zombie Flesh Eaters. 93.72.140.2 ( talk) 17:33, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
I've edited and clarified the running time on its original theatrical release per the Monthly Film Bulletin source. The editor had previously added content, and per their edit history, it seems to be a running time, but has been adding it in ways that go against the infobox standards on running time. I've added a source via the monthly film bulletin, which states the UK running time of a film on its theatrical release, and if its been cut down from the original run time. I believe this should clarify information. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 04:26, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Looking over this article, I noticed there are a couple of pieces of information absent from the article, notably information on the makeup/special effects. This needs to be added to the article as a sub-section in the production section with proper citations from reliable sources. Also there is no information on the film's impact and legacy, the influence and the cultural impact was pretty significant from what I have seen. Paleface Jack ( talk) 20:17, 22 June 2023 (UTC) I am including the links to the film's inclusion of lists for the greatest zombie films of all time: