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I just wrote the X-COM: Genesis article. For those interested, hop on over and take a look. — Frecklefoot 18:25, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Maybe it is wroth a mention on the X-COM page that the in-game description of objects is called "UFOpedia" - another "-pedia" like WikiPedia :) If enough UFO/X-COM fans get here the UFOpedia can be "replicated" here and in addition it will have the personal opinions of the people about the usability of weapons, smartness of different alien types, etc. Also the pictures of the UFOpedia in X-COM3 (Appocalypse) were in a regular viewable format (JPG or whatever), so they can be easily used here (depending on copyright conditions, etc.) -- Alinor
I just wrote the X-COM: Alliance article. For those interested, hop on over and take a look. But whatever you do, don't edit it at all! Just kidding ;-) Of course, edit as much as you like. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 19:06, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)
Doesn't seem to make much sense that there's a description on the first game in the series, since there's already an article for the aforementioned first game? Hell, its copy-pasted from that one (well, before I removed the fanboi praise and put in some criticisms that have been around since forever). I'll be editing it to remove first-game specific praise, and modify the rest so it focuses on the series-wide specifics. Scumbag 20:33, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
Is this really necessary? I've not seen anything like thisd on other game entries...
Useful or not, these would seem to be original research. Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a strategy guide. I think they should be moved here. -- Misterwindupbird 05:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I have 3 Tips then:
That's all.And I slap Sectoids like monkeys.
Independent research carried out by a bunch of fat hairy geeks I know suggest that in Apocalypse it's best to wait and stockpile alien tech because a) the gangs and cops will use them once you sell them b) the price will go down by 50% after you sell for the first time and c) you don't really need to except on expert level. Rolinator 07:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Thought I might throw in a quick note - a dedicated UFO-wiki-pedia has been built, as well as a more "classic" UFOpedia.
I'm not overly sure that this should be included in this article. It's very specifically referring to Enemy Unknown, and possibly should be merged with that article instead. I'm considering putting a merge tag up.
Any thoughs? Mouse Nightshirt 22:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
What happened?
According to an interview with Dave Ellis:
"When Hasbro Interactive bought MicroProse, our studio head in Chapel Hill (Mike Denman) told all of us that we should read a book called Toy Wars by G. Wayne Miller. The book is a fascinating history of Hasbro, and concentrates on its rivalry with Mattel. When Mike read the book, he was impressed with the business skills of Hasbro and came away thinking that we were in good hands.
When I read the book, I knew we were doomed.
Among other things, the book talks about how Hasbro had tried to enter the software/video game business twice prior to the formation of Hasbro Interactive. In each case, tens of millions of dollars were poured into the effort and, when the software division didn’t turn a profit in a year or two, it was shut down.
Hasbro Interactive had had great success with the translation of Hasbro board and family games to electronic form, but these games had development cycles of 3-6 months. MicroProse games had average development cycles of 18-24 months. I knew from the start that Hasbro wasn’t prepared for these long cycles, and I knew that they’d get impatient when the profits didn’t start flowing.
In other words, I saw it coming from a long way off. I said so at the time, but not a lot of people bought it at the time.
Fast-forward to December 7, 1999. I was in my office working on the Genesis design document when Wayne Harvey, Eric Peterson, and Marc Racine walked into my office and shut the door behind them. They said, “Dave, you were right! The IS guys from Hunt Valley are here, and so is Tony Parks (vice-president of Hasbro Interactive). They’re shutting us down!”
And that, as they say, was that. We hung around to shut down (and play Quake) for another month or so and, on January 17, 2000, the doors to the Chapel Hill office were locked forever."
From http://www.thelastoutpost.co.uk/games/dave-ellis-genesis Geoff B 05:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The interview with the
Gollop brothers and Microsoft can be found in the "Ancient Games Unleashed" issue of PC Gamer that came out in 1998. I can't recall the specific issue and I don't have it with me.
TFX 23:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Thre was a turn based squad game that came out in the 90s that very much resembled the combat part of UFO, but with nice graphics. At the time everyone commented on the resemblance. Good game, damned if I can remember the name - anybody? Greglocock 22:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
-JaggedAlliance2? -Fallout Tactics? -Spelcross? -- ManoloKosh 22:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking of starting up a Wikipedia project page for X-COM - the game is under-represented in the encyclopaedia considering the original's impact on the genre. Articles are reasonably messy too and need some maintenance and referencing done.
If you think this project could work, give me a shout on my talk page and I'll fire up the burners! Mouse Nightshirt | talk 16:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I scanned though the article, but I didn't see anything mentioning fan remakes of the games. I was wondering if that would be an appropriate thing to add. -- Eruhildo 22:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if a section on hacking the games would be appropriate since I know there is a lot about it and it's pretty popular to do so. -- Eruhildo 22:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Came across it by chance, but for what it's worth, pretty much all the articles in {{ XCOMRaces}} look ripe for a merge into one big page called "Races of X-COM" or the like, in keeping with recent trends about consolidating such articles into lists. SnowFire 19:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
There's a rumor that Kev Levine is working on a x-com game. Take2 has the license, Levine is a big fan and there was some good 'evidence' (for the internet' sake) on Shacknews I believe. Let's see.. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/45797
And then there was this quote http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=26603 from the irrational site.
Anyway, might be worth adding? —Preceding
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I see that there is a section about the rights to X-COM, but I'm not satisfied with how it looks. Right now the text is incorrect (I'll try to fix it, if internet stops nagging me finally and starts working properly again) but I think that if there is a section called Rights that it would be better if there was a kind of historical breakdown of how it exchanged hands. It's all written on USPTO. The section would then be named "X-COM IP Ownership History" or something like that. -- Gibly ( talk) 14:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I corrected a bit of text about Terror From the Deep not being available through Steam, however I can't provide direct proof of what I wrote. The reason is that I got this information via a private message sent to one of the 2K Games representatives on the official forum ( http://forums.2kgames.com/forums). Unfortunately the message also contains private parts so I can't even post it publicly. Still, what I wrote is about as official as you can get, and you can confirm it the same way I did. -- Gibly ( talk) 17:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Or articles about the weapons and vehicles in the games (lists)? -- Captain Obvious and his crime-fighting dog ( talk) 22:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
"Code, data, or software of poor quality"? What are you btalking about? -- Captain Obvious and his crime-fighting dog ( talk) 13:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
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Can someone make article for that Developer? The Unbeholden ( talk) 08:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
It's not for all games (actually only for the first and largely the second). -- Ostateczny Krach Systemu Korporacji ( talk) 19:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
And also on Mythos Games and ALTAR Games too. -- Ostateczny Krach Systemu Korporacji ( talk) 20:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Over at IGN. I am at work so cannot access it. 198.36.23.16 ( talk) 17:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
In a meantime I'll rewrite the article now. -- Asperchu ( talk) 14:09, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I came here looking for info about UFO defense. I wanted to know how it compares to other titles and such. I could find none...I'm sorry, I'm new at this but shouldn't it be mentioned more on this page? Is there anyway to setup a notification system so that I know when someone has responded? Ok, I just clicked "watch page" does this email me? Sorry that I have wandered off topic BunnyStrider ( talk) 00:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
The X-COM or XCOM logo (any of them, but especially the first and/or the latest). -- 194.145.185.229 ( talk) 17:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
While I respect Niemti as a longtime contributor and editor, I can't fathom the recent change to the Games table. I redid it so it was sortable, a boon to any table. Niemti undid all my changes so it is unsortable and now a static list. This is my previous version and this is the version after Niemti's change. Any other editors have an opinion on this? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 13:51, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
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"Incubation: Time Is Running Out is a turn-based combat PC game that was considered to be "what X-Com Apocalypse should have been".[44] It was developed and released by German company Blue Byte in 1997."
No, literally no one thinks that. A linear puzzle game is what Apocalypse should've been? Who in their right mind would say that? They're only related in the most superficial of ways. Either whoever said that is joking or they don't have any idea what they are talking about. Anyone who has played both games can tell you right away they are nothing alike.
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I just wrote the X-COM: Genesis article. For those interested, hop on over and take a look. — Frecklefoot 18:25, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Maybe it is wroth a mention on the X-COM page that the in-game description of objects is called "UFOpedia" - another "-pedia" like WikiPedia :) If enough UFO/X-COM fans get here the UFOpedia can be "replicated" here and in addition it will have the personal opinions of the people about the usability of weapons, smartness of different alien types, etc. Also the pictures of the UFOpedia in X-COM3 (Appocalypse) were in a regular viewable format (JPG or whatever), so they can be easily used here (depending on copyright conditions, etc.) -- Alinor
I just wrote the X-COM: Alliance article. For those interested, hop on over and take a look. But whatever you do, don't edit it at all! Just kidding ;-) Of course, edit as much as you like. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 19:06, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)
Doesn't seem to make much sense that there's a description on the first game in the series, since there's already an article for the aforementioned first game? Hell, its copy-pasted from that one (well, before I removed the fanboi praise and put in some criticisms that have been around since forever). I'll be editing it to remove first-game specific praise, and modify the rest so it focuses on the series-wide specifics. Scumbag 20:33, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
Is this really necessary? I've not seen anything like thisd on other game entries...
Useful or not, these would seem to be original research. Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a strategy guide. I think they should be moved here. -- Misterwindupbird 05:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I have 3 Tips then:
That's all.And I slap Sectoids like monkeys.
Independent research carried out by a bunch of fat hairy geeks I know suggest that in Apocalypse it's best to wait and stockpile alien tech because a) the gangs and cops will use them once you sell them b) the price will go down by 50% after you sell for the first time and c) you don't really need to except on expert level. Rolinator 07:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Thought I might throw in a quick note - a dedicated UFO-wiki-pedia has been built, as well as a more "classic" UFOpedia.
I'm not overly sure that this should be included in this article. It's very specifically referring to Enemy Unknown, and possibly should be merged with that article instead. I'm considering putting a merge tag up.
Any thoughs? Mouse Nightshirt 22:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
What happened?
According to an interview with Dave Ellis:
"When Hasbro Interactive bought MicroProse, our studio head in Chapel Hill (Mike Denman) told all of us that we should read a book called Toy Wars by G. Wayne Miller. The book is a fascinating history of Hasbro, and concentrates on its rivalry with Mattel. When Mike read the book, he was impressed with the business skills of Hasbro and came away thinking that we were in good hands.
When I read the book, I knew we were doomed.
Among other things, the book talks about how Hasbro had tried to enter the software/video game business twice prior to the formation of Hasbro Interactive. In each case, tens of millions of dollars were poured into the effort and, when the software division didn’t turn a profit in a year or two, it was shut down.
Hasbro Interactive had had great success with the translation of Hasbro board and family games to electronic form, but these games had development cycles of 3-6 months. MicroProse games had average development cycles of 18-24 months. I knew from the start that Hasbro wasn’t prepared for these long cycles, and I knew that they’d get impatient when the profits didn’t start flowing.
In other words, I saw it coming from a long way off. I said so at the time, but not a lot of people bought it at the time.
Fast-forward to December 7, 1999. I was in my office working on the Genesis design document when Wayne Harvey, Eric Peterson, and Marc Racine walked into my office and shut the door behind them. They said, “Dave, you were right! The IS guys from Hunt Valley are here, and so is Tony Parks (vice-president of Hasbro Interactive). They’re shutting us down!”
And that, as they say, was that. We hung around to shut down (and play Quake) for another month or so and, on January 17, 2000, the doors to the Chapel Hill office were locked forever."
From http://www.thelastoutpost.co.uk/games/dave-ellis-genesis Geoff B 05:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The interview with the
Gollop brothers and Microsoft can be found in the "Ancient Games Unleashed" issue of PC Gamer that came out in 1998. I can't recall the specific issue and I don't have it with me.
TFX 23:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Thre was a turn based squad game that came out in the 90s that very much resembled the combat part of UFO, but with nice graphics. At the time everyone commented on the resemblance. Good game, damned if I can remember the name - anybody? Greglocock 22:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
-JaggedAlliance2? -Fallout Tactics? -Spelcross? -- ManoloKosh 22:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking of starting up a Wikipedia project page for X-COM - the game is under-represented in the encyclopaedia considering the original's impact on the genre. Articles are reasonably messy too and need some maintenance and referencing done.
If you think this project could work, give me a shout on my talk page and I'll fire up the burners! Mouse Nightshirt | talk 16:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I scanned though the article, but I didn't see anything mentioning fan remakes of the games. I was wondering if that would be an appropriate thing to add. -- Eruhildo 22:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if a section on hacking the games would be appropriate since I know there is a lot about it and it's pretty popular to do so. -- Eruhildo 22:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Came across it by chance, but for what it's worth, pretty much all the articles in {{ XCOMRaces}} look ripe for a merge into one big page called "Races of X-COM" or the like, in keeping with recent trends about consolidating such articles into lists. SnowFire 19:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
There's a rumor that Kev Levine is working on a x-com game. Take2 has the license, Levine is a big fan and there was some good 'evidence' (for the internet' sake) on Shacknews I believe. Let's see.. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/45797
And then there was this quote http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=26603 from the irrational site.
Anyway, might be worth adding? —Preceding
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77.164.12.77 (
talk) 18:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I see that there is a section about the rights to X-COM, but I'm not satisfied with how it looks. Right now the text is incorrect (I'll try to fix it, if internet stops nagging me finally and starts working properly again) but I think that if there is a section called Rights that it would be better if there was a kind of historical breakdown of how it exchanged hands. It's all written on USPTO. The section would then be named "X-COM IP Ownership History" or something like that. -- Gibly ( talk) 14:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I corrected a bit of text about Terror From the Deep not being available through Steam, however I can't provide direct proof of what I wrote. The reason is that I got this information via a private message sent to one of the 2K Games representatives on the official forum ( http://forums.2kgames.com/forums). Unfortunately the message also contains private parts so I can't even post it publicly. Still, what I wrote is about as official as you can get, and you can confirm it the same way I did. -- Gibly ( talk) 17:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Or articles about the weapons and vehicles in the games (lists)? -- Captain Obvious and his crime-fighting dog ( talk) 22:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
"Code, data, or software of poor quality"? What are you btalking about? -- Captain Obvious and his crime-fighting dog ( talk) 13:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
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Can someone make article for that Developer? The Unbeholden ( talk) 08:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
It's not for all games (actually only for the first and largely the second). -- Ostateczny Krach Systemu Korporacji ( talk) 19:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
And also on Mythos Games and ALTAR Games too. -- Ostateczny Krach Systemu Korporacji ( talk) 20:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Over at IGN. I am at work so cannot access it. 198.36.23.16 ( talk) 17:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
In a meantime I'll rewrite the article now. -- Asperchu ( talk) 14:09, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I came here looking for info about UFO defense. I wanted to know how it compares to other titles and such. I could find none...I'm sorry, I'm new at this but shouldn't it be mentioned more on this page? Is there anyway to setup a notification system so that I know when someone has responded? Ok, I just clicked "watch page" does this email me? Sorry that I have wandered off topic BunnyStrider ( talk) 00:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
The X-COM or XCOM logo (any of them, but especially the first and/or the latest). -- 194.145.185.229 ( talk) 17:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
While I respect Niemti as a longtime contributor and editor, I can't fathom the recent change to the Games table. I redid it so it was sortable, a boon to any table. Niemti undid all my changes so it is unsortable and now a static list. This is my previous version and this is the version after Niemti's change. Any other editors have an opinion on this? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 13:51, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
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"Incubation: Time Is Running Out is a turn-based combat PC game that was considered to be "what X-Com Apocalypse should have been".[44] It was developed and released by German company Blue Byte in 1997."
No, literally no one thinks that. A linear puzzle game is what Apocalypse should've been? Who in their right mind would say that? They're only related in the most superficial of ways. Either whoever said that is joking or they don't have any idea what they are talking about. Anyone who has played both games can tell you right away they are nothing alike.
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X-COM → XCOM – The series has used the "XCOM" moniker, sans the hyphen, for 5 games now - more than the running time of many entire series. While I respect that the original game used the hyphen, the page should reflect the current name of the series, which is decidedly without it. For example, Soulcalibur is not called Soul Edge. Ace Combat is not called Air Combat. And so forth. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 03:21, 8 October 2020 (UTC)—Relisted. 2pou ( talk) 14:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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