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There is a typo in the article name. It uses a hyphen but it should use a dash: World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent). See WP:MOSDASH. This also makes it inconsistent with World Trade Center (1973鈥2001), which uses a dash. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 14:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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So, has anyone else noticed that they have a 7 WTC, but no 6 WTC? At least, not listed in the article.
Is there a specific reason for not including a 6 WTC in the rebuilding plans? This should be mentioned in the article.
-- 98.122.20.56 ( talk) 16:35, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I've made several changes to World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent)#Structures table here and here, which fixed sorting in the table.
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Call it 9/11 Sausagea1000 ( talk) 19:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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I know we had a discussion a while ago, which resulted in the Old and New World Trade Center being split, but what would you think about having more natural titles for the articles? CookieMonster755 饾毃-饾泙 01:02, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Although construction began in 2002, the story began in 2001, and the consensus is that should be reflected in the title. ( closed by page mover) Brad v 02:46, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent) 鈫 World Trade Center (2002鈥損resent) 鈥 The first building (WTC 7) in the new complex did not start construction until 2002. Phil roc My contribs 20:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
a partially completed complex of buildings in Lower Manhattan(emphasis mine); it is not the World Trade Center site. Therefore, it is appropriate to use 2002 as the start date, when construction of 7 World Trade Center began, because there was no "partially completed complex of buildings" before that. @ Philroc: you may want to amend your RfC rationale from "WTC 7 did not open until 2002" to "Construction of WTC 7 did not start until 2002". 鈥 JFG talk 09:20, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
In World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent)#Structures, I've removed paddings from cells containing images, thereby reducing overall table width a little bit. Using the Firefox web inspector (in Windows xp), I got the following table widths for optimal viewing 鈥
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The result of the move request was: The requesting user has withdrawn the request 23h112e ( talk) 20:06, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
(Note: the original close was formatted incorrectly. I have fixed it. epicgenius ( talk) 21:51, 25 February 2018 (UTC))
World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent) 鈫
World Trade Center (United States) 鈥 the current title includes a defining reference to an act of terrorism. The article is about a building and the offices contained within the building, has actually very little relevance to terrorism, other than an historical reason for existence. The building is a stand-alone structure, not needing to reference historically a second subject. The current description is biased and United-States centric because
List of World Trade Centers -
23h112e (
talk) 20:10, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
the current title includes a defining reference to an act of terrorism. The article is about a building and the offices contained within the building, has actually very little relevance to terrorism, other than an historical reason for existence.No, it is a building complex. And the entire reason why this complex exists is because of the 9/11 attacks. Of course the act of terrorism is going to be mentioned here, because if 9/11 didn't happen, this complex wouldn't exist.
The requesting user has withdrawn the request 23h112e ( talk) 20:06, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The request is because:
23h112e ( talk) 19:08, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Policies are standards that all users should normally follow- bolded for emphasis, so you don't get the idea that it's prudent to ignore policy as you have suggested. epicgenius ( talk) 21:48, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
"the former WTC and the current WTC can themselves be confused" is no reason what-so-everis irrelevant to my argument. What I actually said is
the article on the former WTC receives far more views than the current WTC's article, so it is the other article that should be moved, if push comes to shove.Your other points don't make sense, but I'll go with them anyway. Just because the WTCA is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that "World Trade Center" should be the title of the headquarters' article. We call things by their common names, regardless of whether it's technically a misnomer.And what is wrong with having just the years in the title? Don't presume that readers can't tell between "the World Trade Center" that has been in existence before 2001, and the WTC afterward. This is a world-famous icon; ask anyone where the "World Trade Center" is, and half the time, it'll be the one in NYC. I don't know what you mean by
but how this is justification for this particular center be The center, but this is the most popular World Trade Center out there. OK, second-most-popular, but WP:COMMONNAME applies here. Don't make a name longer and more confusing because you think a few people may be confused. epicgenius ( talk) 22:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
On the left is Brookfield Place, which is not part of the World Trade Center complex.
@ CapLiber: What's wrong with including Brookfield Place in the caption? I'd think that including the caption would clarify that Brookfield Place isn't in WTC especially for readers who aren't from the NYC area. By contrast, excluding Brookfield Place might insinuate that Brookfield Place is part of WTC, or at the very least, make readers confused about what it is. epicgenius ( talk) 02:02, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
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The main image on this page as of October 10, 2021 has three issues with it. 1. 4 WTC and 5 WTC (site) are not visible in the picture. 2. 3 WTC was not complete when this picture was taken (in 2016). It was completed in 2018. 3. This is based on issue 1. It is inconsistent with World Trade Center (1973-2001) because the image over there has all 7 building partially visible. To fix these issues, there should be an updated picture from late 2018 - 2021 which partially shows all 4 completed buildings and 2 building sites. I don鈥檛 know all the copyright stuff, so can somebody else do it for me? Vamsi20 ( talk) 17:40, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 20:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent) 鈫
World Trade Center (2006鈥損resent) 鈥 Requesting Move from (2001鈥損resent) to (2006鈥損resent) as 2006 was when the first building officialy opened 7 World Trade Center.
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In the first sentence of the article, the World Trade Center is described as being located "in the Lower Manhattan neighborhood of New York City, U.S." This is incorrect. "Lower Manhattan" is not a neighborhood, but is a vast swath of Manhattan south of 14th Street. There are many neighborhoods in Lower Manhattan, including the Financial District, the home of the World Trade Center.
In the article "World Trade Center (1973鈥2001)", a better phrase is used, and describes the location as "in the Financial District of Lower Manhattan, New York City, United States." This writing is much more accurate. Could we have that same wording used in this article? Deliciousnachos987654 ( talk) 00:37, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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There is a typo in the article name. It uses a hyphen but it should use a dash: World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent). See WP:MOSDASH. This also makes it inconsistent with World Trade Center (1973鈥2001), which uses a dash. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 14:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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So, has anyone else noticed that they have a 7 WTC, but no 6 WTC? At least, not listed in the article.
Is there a specific reason for not including a 6 WTC in the rebuilding plans? This should be mentioned in the article.
-- 98.122.20.56 ( talk) 16:35, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I've made several changes to World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent)#Structures table here and here, which fixed sorting in the table.
...Because the Structures table has been transcluded into other articles.
Sortable headers with dates now contain data-sort-type="isoDate"
, given that all cells with dates are already prepended with data-sort-value
parameters. Replacing "date"
with "isoDate"
made sorting functional (in Firefox).
All cells with data-sort-value
parametres must use the full ISO date, such as:
data-sort-value="2016-01-01"
In my experience with this table, leaving even one cell with only a year, or a year and a month (without a day) into data-sort-value
made the column unsortable.
As isoDate
is set as the data-sort-type in row headers, then date cells should avoid data-sort-value="NA"
or anything else that is not an ISO date, as textual data misplaces the row relative to other rows.
Some date values are moving targets:
data-sort-value="2017-01-01"
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Call it 9/11 Sausagea1000 ( talk) 19:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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I know we had a discussion a while ago, which resulted in the Old and New World Trade Center being split, but what would you think about having more natural titles for the articles? CookieMonster755 饾毃-饾泙 01:02, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Although construction began in 2002, the story began in 2001, and the consensus is that should be reflected in the title. ( closed by page mover) Brad v 02:46, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent) 鈫 World Trade Center (2002鈥損resent) 鈥 The first building (WTC 7) in the new complex did not start construction until 2002. Phil roc My contribs 20:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
a partially completed complex of buildings in Lower Manhattan(emphasis mine); it is not the World Trade Center site. Therefore, it is appropriate to use 2002 as the start date, when construction of 7 World Trade Center began, because there was no "partially completed complex of buildings" before that. @ Philroc: you may want to amend your RfC rationale from "WTC 7 did not open until 2002" to "Construction of WTC 7 did not start until 2002". 鈥 JFG talk 09:20, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
In World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent)#Structures, I've removed paddings from cells containing images, thereby reducing overall table width a little bit. Using the Firefox web inspector (in Windows xp), I got the following table widths for optimal viewing 鈥
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As the Monobook skin is non-default, it can be selected in user preferences, and applies only when logged in. With it, the desktop version of the table is thus viewable at 800x600px screen resolutions, or with displays that have the same pixel width.
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This should acommodate mobile screens that have the minimum width or height that exceeds this pixel width.
The upside with the mobile site is, that tables can be scrolled, or, rather, swiped from right to left, so I assume a working overflow rule.
As it is, the default mobile skin is called Minerva. I don't know, if there are any other mobile Wikipedia skins than that. - Mardus / talk 09:26, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: The requesting user has withdrawn the request 23h112e ( talk) 20:06, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
(Note: the original close was formatted incorrectly. I have fixed it. epicgenius ( talk) 21:51, 25 February 2018 (UTC))
World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent) 鈫
World Trade Center (United States) 鈥 the current title includes a defining reference to an act of terrorism. The article is about a building and the offices contained within the building, has actually very little relevance to terrorism, other than an historical reason for existence. The building is a stand-alone structure, not needing to reference historically a second subject. The current description is biased and United-States centric because
List of World Trade Centers -
23h112e (
talk) 20:10, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
the current title includes a defining reference to an act of terrorism. The article is about a building and the offices contained within the building, has actually very little relevance to terrorism, other than an historical reason for existence.No, it is a building complex. And the entire reason why this complex exists is because of the 9/11 attacks. Of course the act of terrorism is going to be mentioned here, because if 9/11 didn't happen, this complex wouldn't exist.
The requesting user has withdrawn the request 23h112e ( talk) 20:06, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The request is because:
23h112e ( talk) 19:08, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Policies are standards that all users should normally follow- bolded for emphasis, so you don't get the idea that it's prudent to ignore policy as you have suggested. epicgenius ( talk) 21:48, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
"the former WTC and the current WTC can themselves be confused" is no reason what-so-everis irrelevant to my argument. What I actually said is
the article on the former WTC receives far more views than the current WTC's article, so it is the other article that should be moved, if push comes to shove.Your other points don't make sense, but I'll go with them anyway. Just because the WTCA is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that "World Trade Center" should be the title of the headquarters' article. We call things by their common names, regardless of whether it's technically a misnomer.And what is wrong with having just the years in the title? Don't presume that readers can't tell between "the World Trade Center" that has been in existence before 2001, and the WTC afterward. This is a world-famous icon; ask anyone where the "World Trade Center" is, and half the time, it'll be the one in NYC. I don't know what you mean by
but how this is justification for this particular center be The center, but this is the most popular World Trade Center out there. OK, second-most-popular, but WP:COMMONNAME applies here. Don't make a name longer and more confusing because you think a few people may be confused. epicgenius ( talk) 22:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
On the left is Brookfield Place, which is not part of the World Trade Center complex.
@ CapLiber: What's wrong with including Brookfield Place in the caption? I'd think that including the caption would clarify that Brookfield Place isn't in WTC especially for readers who aren't from the NYC area. By contrast, excluding Brookfield Place might insinuate that Brookfield Place is part of WTC, or at the very least, make readers confused about what it is. epicgenius ( talk) 02:02, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
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The main image on this page as of October 10, 2021 has three issues with it. 1. 4 WTC and 5 WTC (site) are not visible in the picture. 2. 3 WTC was not complete when this picture was taken (in 2016). It was completed in 2018. 3. This is based on issue 1. It is inconsistent with World Trade Center (1973-2001) because the image over there has all 7 building partially visible. To fix these issues, there should be an updated picture from late 2018 - 2021 which partially shows all 4 completed buildings and 2 building sites. I don鈥檛 know all the copyright stuff, so can somebody else do it for me? Vamsi20 ( talk) 17:40, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 20:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
World Trade Center (2001鈥損resent) 鈫
World Trade Center (2006鈥損resent) 鈥 Requesting Move from (2001鈥損resent) to (2006鈥損resent) as 2006 was when the first building officialy opened 7 World Trade Center.
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In the first sentence of the article, the World Trade Center is described as being located "in the Lower Manhattan neighborhood of New York City, U.S." This is incorrect. "Lower Manhattan" is not a neighborhood, but is a vast swath of Manhattan south of 14th Street. There are many neighborhoods in Lower Manhattan, including the Financial District, the home of the World Trade Center.
In the article "World Trade Center (1973鈥2001)", a better phrase is used, and describes the location as "in the Financial District of Lower Manhattan, New York City, United States." This writing is much more accurate. Could we have that same wording used in this article? Deliciousnachos987654 ( talk) 00:37, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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