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This article is 100% distinct from school bullying. There is no overlap.
-- Penbat ( talk) 19:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
needs to explain the different possible parties involved such as:
-- Penbat ( talk) 22:17, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, don't non-academic staff get bullied too?!!! I've had personal experience of this, which is why I'm remaining anonymous (plus I've forgotten my password). The woolly nature of academic structures (and lack of management training of senior staff in particular), means that they are conducive to - and supportive - of workplace bullying at ALL levels... (A member of professional services staff of a London university, 1 May 2011) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.35.132.7 ( talk) 21:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
There's no organization/person/institution/law dedicated to fighting this type of bullying? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.50.180 ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Nope. Also the bullying can continue once the job has finished too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.143.213.103 ( talk) 23:02, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to address this - seems there is a claim of bullying here taken almost as fact, without any sense of the subjectivity. For example, one of the outside links itself has a link to a physics professor's being dismissed because he automatically gave everyone A+'s. I agree that is a controversial issue, but you could certainly question whether it's bullying. Anyone with a gripe to bear can be called a bully. 206.116.243.76 ( talk) 07:18, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Well is there any opposition to the bullying of acedemic students or not if so then it needs to be stated in the article. -- 120.151.106.44 ( talk) 08:33, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Definitions have been removed repeatedly, making this article more difficult for our readers. Definitions, rather than hyperlinks, would be better here. Can we get a consensus before somebody violates WP:3RR? Bearian ( talk) 21:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Looking at the issue closer, I see that the concept of "bullying in academia" requires its own, separate definition, not just a sum of definitions "bullying" + "academia". The random definition added by a newcomer is both incomplete and partially inapplicable to bullying in academia. In particular, we hardly speak of "physical violence" in academia. At the same time, e.g., denying of promotion is neither physical nor psychological, nor violence. At the same time, the article " bullying" itself is sloppy, controversial and confusing. Staszek Lem ( talk) 23:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Bullying in adult education redirects here, but is not covered in the article. -- Beland ( talk) 21:07, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I am very confused that there is a separate article called Bullying in Higher Education, especially since Bullying in higher education (without capitalization) redirects here. Is there a difference, and if not, could somebody with more experience dealing with such matters please fix this? -- XndrK ( talk | contribs) 18:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Footnote 4 is to a Clute Institute publication. The Clute Institute is considered to be a predatory publisher (see http://scholarlyoa.com/publishers/) Thus, I think it would be better for find a more authoritative source. -- Derek Pyne2 ( talk) 16:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
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Should we add examples from reliable third-party sources to illustrate this? Zigzig20s ( talk) 19:40, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
I have started adding some sources but I'm no expert in the field and have little knowledge, if someone would like to further expand or update the article, here are some good sources to exploit further: PMID 30487619, [1], [2], Workplace Bullying in Academia: Long-Term Victim Impact and Moral Disengagement (PhD thesis), PMID 24289666, Why Relentless Administrative Turnover Makes It Hard for Us to Do Our Jobs -- Signimu ( talk) 08:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
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This article is 100% distinct from school bullying. There is no overlap.
-- Penbat ( talk) 19:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
needs to explain the different possible parties involved such as:
-- Penbat ( talk) 22:17, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, don't non-academic staff get bullied too?!!! I've had personal experience of this, which is why I'm remaining anonymous (plus I've forgotten my password). The woolly nature of academic structures (and lack of management training of senior staff in particular), means that they are conducive to - and supportive - of workplace bullying at ALL levels... (A member of professional services staff of a London university, 1 May 2011) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.35.132.7 ( talk) 21:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
There's no organization/person/institution/law dedicated to fighting this type of bullying? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.50.180 ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Nope. Also the bullying can continue once the job has finished too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.143.213.103 ( talk) 23:02, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to address this - seems there is a claim of bullying here taken almost as fact, without any sense of the subjectivity. For example, one of the outside links itself has a link to a physics professor's being dismissed because he automatically gave everyone A+'s. I agree that is a controversial issue, but you could certainly question whether it's bullying. Anyone with a gripe to bear can be called a bully. 206.116.243.76 ( talk) 07:18, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Well is there any opposition to the bullying of acedemic students or not if so then it needs to be stated in the article. -- 120.151.106.44 ( talk) 08:33, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Definitions have been removed repeatedly, making this article more difficult for our readers. Definitions, rather than hyperlinks, would be better here. Can we get a consensus before somebody violates WP:3RR? Bearian ( talk) 21:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Looking at the issue closer, I see that the concept of "bullying in academia" requires its own, separate definition, not just a sum of definitions "bullying" + "academia". The random definition added by a newcomer is both incomplete and partially inapplicable to bullying in academia. In particular, we hardly speak of "physical violence" in academia. At the same time, e.g., denying of promotion is neither physical nor psychological, nor violence. At the same time, the article " bullying" itself is sloppy, controversial and confusing. Staszek Lem ( talk) 23:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Bullying in adult education redirects here, but is not covered in the article. -- Beland ( talk) 21:07, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I am very confused that there is a separate article called Bullying in Higher Education, especially since Bullying in higher education (without capitalization) redirects here. Is there a difference, and if not, could somebody with more experience dealing with such matters please fix this? -- XndrK ( talk | contribs) 18:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Footnote 4 is to a Clute Institute publication. The Clute Institute is considered to be a predatory publisher (see http://scholarlyoa.com/publishers/) Thus, I think it would be better for find a more authoritative source. -- Derek Pyne2 ( talk) 16:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
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Should we add examples from reliable third-party sources to illustrate this? Zigzig20s ( talk) 19:40, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
I have started adding some sources but I'm no expert in the field and have little knowledge, if someone would like to further expand or update the article, here are some good sources to exploit further: PMID 30487619, [1], [2], Workplace Bullying in Academia: Long-Term Victim Impact and Moral Disengagement (PhD thesis), PMID 24289666, Why Relentless Administrative Turnover Makes It Hard for Us to Do Our Jobs -- Signimu ( talk) 08:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)