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Głuchy in Polish means deaf. Niemiec comes from niemy = dumb, mute. -- 85.222.86.36 ( talk) 03:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Die Liste zeigt die Entwicklung mittelalterlicher Walddeutscher Siedlungsnamen im polnischen Karpathengebiet. Ein Teil der Siedlungen existiert heute noch ein anderer Teil ist bereits im Mittelalter zur Wüstung geworden.
Berwald 1325-1327 Bernwald 1325-1328 Bernwald 1447
Byscopeswalt 1386
Friwald 1400 Friwalth 1529
Grunewald 1330 Grunwald 1354-1355 Grynwalth 1529
villam... Hoynewaldt (1317) 1556 Henwald 1348 Hinwalth 1529
silwam ...Kezeyrswald 1342 super . . .villis . . .Keyzerswald (1344)
Lichtinwalth 1335 Lichtenwald 1349 Rychwald (1395) 1778
de Peterwaldi (1292) 1569 Petirswalde props Zathor 1440
de Rychwald 1443 Richwald 1536
Richwald in terra Beycensi 1404 Richwald 1557
Schonerwalt 1384
Sonwald sive Mnich 1344 Schonwald 1416
villa Eremberch alias Odrzykon (1402) 1643 villam Errenberg 1410
oppidi Furstinberg 1394 Furstinberg 1405
de Kolbark 1372 Slow alias Colbark (1385) 1403 Kolberg 1393
Rosumberk 1354 Rosembergk 1415
Slachinberk 1400 Slembark 1581 Szlebark 1487 Slabark 1536 Slimbark 1680 Szlembark 1964
Synbork 1381 Szymbark 1470-1480
Scheinberg 1359 Schonbergk 1369
in civitate...Jodiowa góra (1353) Timberg 1394 Tamberg 1404
Derenscheyn 1437—1469 Dornsteyn 1463 Durstein 1471
Falkenstein 1582 Falkenstein 1589
Holstin 1358 Holstein 1411
Mylsteyn 1362 Mulsteyn 1363
Peskensten 1315 Peschkensteyn 1418
Rabsteyn 1399 Rabstheyn 1403
Tropsteyn 1390 Tropstyn 1535
Czornsteyn 1359 Csornsteyn 1401
Frawenstat 1400 Frawenstat 1437
Frienstat 1374 Freynstadt 1400
Grevenstat 1395
Honstath (1366) 1367 Honstad seu in polonico lasliska 1477
Newenstadt 1400 Newenstad andirs genant Zathor (1447) 1449
Halcznow 1446 Altzenau, poln. Halznow 1796-1802
ville Langyn Aw 1381
Kaltborn 1426 Caldborn 1438
Neydecke 1445
Mosgront seu Witcowicz 1325-1327 Mosgrunt 1400
Landshut 1369 Landishut 1393
Castrum Landiscronensem 1359 Landiscrone 1375
Czchow alio modo alba ecclesia 1357 Weyskirche 1389
lanuschoua alias Sonnenschyn 1384 Sonnenscheyn que Januszowa dicitur 1389
Lobetans (1409) 1614 Lobentacz 1424
Libinwerde 1368 Kanthi alias Libenwerd 1428
Katzwinkel 1320 Kaczwinkel 1416
Seller 1566
Fridhman 1327
Henysch 1409
villa debet nuncupari lohane (1389) 1428
Kryg (1377) 1583
eccl. de Phyfer 1350-1351 scultetissa de Ffeyphar 1396
castrum Ritter 1312
Szafflar 1334 Sewfler 1350-1351
Schyk 1398 Schik 1540
Sukman 1331 Svkman 1529
Zanderman 1358
Suthnar seu Poramba 1350-1351
Waxmund 1334 Wachsmunt (1338) 1339
De civitate Wolwrami 1346-1358 de Wolwram 1369
Betzdorff 1566 Bertzdorff 1571
Bratmansdorff 1400
villam Cziraczendorffe in districtu Osuianczimiensi sitam 1433
Damkyndorff 1413
Fridrichsdorf 1454
Geraltsdorff 1400
Gigersdorf seu Gerowicz 1325—1327
von Gorleczdorff 1479
Gregorsdorf 1392 Gregorsdorf 1439
Glambowicz seu Chundorf 1325-1328 Glambovicz seu Gundorf 1346
von Hannusdorf 1397 de Hannusdurff 1433
ad metas de Hartundisdorff 1292 Hartmansdorff 1400
luengendorff, villa sic dicta 1410 Jungendorf 1413
Keymandorff 1400
villa Lypnyk alias Concedorff (1443) 1510 Kuntzdorf 1736
villam novam, quae vulgariter Cuntzendorph nominatur ...in silva vulgariter dicta Poras 1383
Lodwigsdorf . . . in vnserm Zeywisschem weigbilde gelegen 1445
villa Michilsdorf 1408
Muthindorf ca. 1305 Mickendorff 1566) Mückendorf, polnisch Komorowice 1796— 1802
versus Tzus est edificata una villa que vocatur Nuendorf ... Nuendorff 1405 versus Czucz est edificata una villa, quae vocatur Nuendorff 1470—1480
in villa nostra dicta Noua Villa, vulgariter autem Daz Newdorf 1369 in districtu Lanchudensi ...Nawedorph 1384
Nickelstorff. . .bis zu den Grenitzen des Dorfs Kemnitz 1312 wald bei Nickelsdorf, in unserm teschnischen und auswintzschen gebiete and weichbilde gelegen 1413 Niffkelstorf 1547 Nickelstorff 1566 Niclsdorf, polnisch Mikuszowice 1736
Petirsdorf in ...Zeywischem weigbilde gelegen 1445
allodium ... Prokendorff 1395 allodil Prokendorff 1396
in dem Swarczen dorfe 1394 im Schwarczendorffe 1424
de Duabus capris seu Siffridivilla deserta 1325—1327 von Seyfridsdorf l4l3 Seibersdorf 1736
Beigelsdorff 1400
de Wilmsdorff prope Libenwerde 1440 Wilmesduf 1529
de Benerhaw 1389 de Benirhaw 1395
item Wusserhaw, Tzetzemil; predicte ville sunt versus Kozegow ... item Wiszna Antiquum et Novum tenet Mitzka et Paska, fratres dicti Wisinsky, et etiam tenent Busserhow 1405 Busserhaw 1470-1480
de Hannushaw 1389 de Hannishaw 1397 de Hanushow, de Hoczow 1444
Helwygeshow 1384 Halbigshawe 1466 Halbigeshaw 1482
in districtu Lanchudensi ... Henselshow 1384
Kotkenhaw 1410 de Kotkenhaw 1432 de Cockenhaw 1452
Markenhow 1384 von Markinhaw 1437 von Marckenhawe 1465
villa vocatur Nebelichshaw dicta Przesik ... item Neblichhow ... item Kemenitz et Neblickshaw 1405 Noblicshaw 1470—1480
villae ... Schygod vel Schottenhow 1317
Schuffnerhaw 1470—1480
villam nostram Thomkynhaw wlgariter Pacoschokka ... in terra Sanocensi sitam 1408
von Czepenshaw 1473 Czeppenshaw 1474 von Czeppenszhaw 1478
partem molendini ... versus Willemshaw 1398
Wilmeshau // Wilamowice bei Auschwitz von Wilmeschau 1439 von Wilmeschau 1443 von Wylmysaw 1447
de Woytyshan 1389
Harte // Harta Dolna, Górna und Wysoka bei Brzozów Hartha 1429
Krummbach // Krempachy bei Nowy Targ Krompach 1439
Die Spuren der Walddeutschen finden sich auch in vielen Familiennamen in der gesamten Region: Besonders häufig sind folgende:
Polnischer Familienname | ursprünglicher deutscher Familienname |
---|---|
Bonar | Benner |
Aszlar | Hassler |
Balawender, Balawajder | Bärenwälder |
Bar | Baur, Bauer |
Bajgier | Beiger, Berger |
Butnar, Bytnar | Büttner |
Cymerman | Zimmermann |
Cypcar | Zipser |
Czuchman | Schuchmann |
Dreslar | Dressler |
Flejszar | Fleischer |
Gefert | Geppert, Gebhard |
Gierlach, Gierloch | Gerlach |
Hofman | Hoffmann |
Ekiert | Heckerth |
Jekiel | Jäckel |
Inglot | Engelhard |
Kenar | Kenner |
Kinel | Kienel, Künel |
Klejna | Kleiner |
Klejna | Kleiner |
Krauze | Krause |
Krukar | Krüger, Kruger |
Kyellar | Keller |
Kochman, Kochmanski | Kochmann |
Krausz | Krauss |
Kuter | Kütter |
Miiller | Müller |
Majer, Mejer | Mayer, Meyer |
Międlar | Mildner |
Nikiel | Nickel |
Nojman | Neumann |
Pulnar | Bullner |
Rajchel | Reichel |
Rozenbajger, Rozenbajgier | Rosenberger |
Rysz | Reiss |
Sziler, Szeler, Szylar, Silar | Schiller |
Szmid | Schmidt |
Solcz | Scholz |
Szyndlar | Schindler |
Szprynglar | Springler |
Szreder | Schröder |
Szulc | Schulz, Schultz |
Szwarc | Schwartz |
Szpytma | Späthmann |
Szubart, Szuwart | Schubert |
Schubryt, Szubrycht | Schubricht |
Szuch | Schuh |
Szumakier | Schuhmacher |
Szuster | Schuster |
Pelc | Pelz |
Pelczar | Pelzer |
Pojnar | Polnar |
Rozenbark, Rozembark | Rosenberg |
Rajchel, Raichel | Reichel |
Rygiel | Riegel |
Rymar | Reimer |
Tejchma | Teichmann |
Trojnar | Treuner |
Tys | Theiss |
Ulma | Uhlmann |
Weys, Weisz, Wajs, Wais | Weiss |
Weisgirb | Weissgerber |
Subect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walddeutsche
The Walddeutsche were not "Germans".
Your assessment implies that the "Walddeutsche" were ethnic Germans and that's absolutely false. The nickname "Gluszy Niemcy" (literally meaning "wilderness Germans" from which "Walddeutsche" was later derived) was coined over 700 years ago to merely indicate where these folks came from and where they now lived - they came Germanic lands and now live in our forests. But these folks were West Slavic Sorbs from Lusatia (in Saxony) whose language was Sorbian, which is related to Polish but includes some German words. They were members of the ancient West Slavic Lusatian tribe and their homeland was Lusatia (today, Saxony).
The Sorbs may have come from within Saxony (and possibly Brandenburg as well) which was a Germanic state, but to simply state that they were "mostly of German origin" is entirely misleading. It implies that they were ethnically Germanic and they certainly were not. Further, there is little or no evidence of Germanic genes among the population in today's Malopolska and Podkarpackie Provinces. DNA doesn't lie. If your case was correct, I should have some Germanic genes because I have two distinct lines of "Niemiec" ancestors from this area, but I don't.
You are basing your assessment entirely on a Polish nickname and have somehow managed to screw up even the meaning of the nickname at the very beginning of the article. "Gluchoniemcy" ("deaf Germans") is apparently a Germanic mistranslation of "Gluszy Niemcy" ("Woods Germans"). Type them as keywords and check the Google search results for yourself - Gluchoniemcy: 34,100, Gluszyniemcy: 882,000. You ignore that fact that these are Sorbs who are refered to as Saxons - not Germans - and Saxony was/is home to a large population of Sorbs. There's still about 40,000 living in Saxony and their language is considered locally as an equal to German by civil law.
Your footnotes contain much of this information but you have misinterpreted them.
King Casimir the Great was a truly wise monarch. Do you really believe that he'd invite a bunch of Germans to resettle his kingdom, depleted after the Mongol Invasions, when countless Sorbs - who were ethnic West Slavs, already spoke a language akin to Polish, and were becoming increasely surrounded by an expanding Saxon state - were ready and willing to make the trek? King Casimir invited many folks to pioneer and rebuild his kingdom (including Jews who were persecuted elsewhere in Europe), doubled the size of his realm, issued thousands of town charters, established strong diplomatic links to neighboring states, and laid the foundation for a long lasting Polish state. He was too smart to do what you assert in your assessment.
Sincerely,
Dennis Benarz Editor, http://spuscizna.org/ Email: benarz@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.39.235.114 ( talk) 05:44, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
The proper word is "głusza", not "głusz" and it's not a wood, but wilderness, the desolate place. It could be some "dead silent" part of the forest, but certainly it doesn't mean "wood". I couldn't find any reliable sources proving stated etymology and both the wrong word + wrong translation + lack of other sources makes me think it might be simply a folk etymology. It's not a pun, not a sort of a pun, but simply a mistake. For the record: I'm aware that modern language might be different, so I've checked also in the old dictionaries and even older literature - "głusza" is not used as woods ("las"). Krzysiu ( talk) 23:53, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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Głuchy in Polish means deaf. Niemiec comes from niemy = dumb, mute. -- 85.222.86.36 ( talk) 03:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Die Liste zeigt die Entwicklung mittelalterlicher Walddeutscher Siedlungsnamen im polnischen Karpathengebiet. Ein Teil der Siedlungen existiert heute noch ein anderer Teil ist bereits im Mittelalter zur Wüstung geworden.
Berwald 1325-1327 Bernwald 1325-1328 Bernwald 1447
Byscopeswalt 1386
Friwald 1400 Friwalth 1529
Grunewald 1330 Grunwald 1354-1355 Grynwalth 1529
villam... Hoynewaldt (1317) 1556 Henwald 1348 Hinwalth 1529
silwam ...Kezeyrswald 1342 super . . .villis . . .Keyzerswald (1344)
Lichtinwalth 1335 Lichtenwald 1349 Rychwald (1395) 1778
de Peterwaldi (1292) 1569 Petirswalde props Zathor 1440
de Rychwald 1443 Richwald 1536
Richwald in terra Beycensi 1404 Richwald 1557
Schonerwalt 1384
Sonwald sive Mnich 1344 Schonwald 1416
villa Eremberch alias Odrzykon (1402) 1643 villam Errenberg 1410
oppidi Furstinberg 1394 Furstinberg 1405
de Kolbark 1372 Slow alias Colbark (1385) 1403 Kolberg 1393
Rosumberk 1354 Rosembergk 1415
Slachinberk 1400 Slembark 1581 Szlebark 1487 Slabark 1536 Slimbark 1680 Szlembark 1964
Synbork 1381 Szymbark 1470-1480
Scheinberg 1359 Schonbergk 1369
in civitate...Jodiowa góra (1353) Timberg 1394 Tamberg 1404
Derenscheyn 1437—1469 Dornsteyn 1463 Durstein 1471
Falkenstein 1582 Falkenstein 1589
Holstin 1358 Holstein 1411
Mylsteyn 1362 Mulsteyn 1363
Peskensten 1315 Peschkensteyn 1418
Rabsteyn 1399 Rabstheyn 1403
Tropsteyn 1390 Tropstyn 1535
Czornsteyn 1359 Csornsteyn 1401
Frawenstat 1400 Frawenstat 1437
Frienstat 1374 Freynstadt 1400
Grevenstat 1395
Honstath (1366) 1367 Honstad seu in polonico lasliska 1477
Newenstadt 1400 Newenstad andirs genant Zathor (1447) 1449
Halcznow 1446 Altzenau, poln. Halznow 1796-1802
ville Langyn Aw 1381
Kaltborn 1426 Caldborn 1438
Neydecke 1445
Mosgront seu Witcowicz 1325-1327 Mosgrunt 1400
Landshut 1369 Landishut 1393
Castrum Landiscronensem 1359 Landiscrone 1375
Czchow alio modo alba ecclesia 1357 Weyskirche 1389
lanuschoua alias Sonnenschyn 1384 Sonnenscheyn que Januszowa dicitur 1389
Lobetans (1409) 1614 Lobentacz 1424
Libinwerde 1368 Kanthi alias Libenwerd 1428
Katzwinkel 1320 Kaczwinkel 1416
Seller 1566
Fridhman 1327
Henysch 1409
villa debet nuncupari lohane (1389) 1428
Kryg (1377) 1583
eccl. de Phyfer 1350-1351 scultetissa de Ffeyphar 1396
castrum Ritter 1312
Szafflar 1334 Sewfler 1350-1351
Schyk 1398 Schik 1540
Sukman 1331 Svkman 1529
Zanderman 1358
Suthnar seu Poramba 1350-1351
Waxmund 1334 Wachsmunt (1338) 1339
De civitate Wolwrami 1346-1358 de Wolwram 1369
Betzdorff 1566 Bertzdorff 1571
Bratmansdorff 1400
villam Cziraczendorffe in districtu Osuianczimiensi sitam 1433
Damkyndorff 1413
Fridrichsdorf 1454
Geraltsdorff 1400
Gigersdorf seu Gerowicz 1325—1327
von Gorleczdorff 1479
Gregorsdorf 1392 Gregorsdorf 1439
Glambowicz seu Chundorf 1325-1328 Glambovicz seu Gundorf 1346
von Hannusdorf 1397 de Hannusdurff 1433
ad metas de Hartundisdorff 1292 Hartmansdorff 1400
luengendorff, villa sic dicta 1410 Jungendorf 1413
Keymandorff 1400
villa Lypnyk alias Concedorff (1443) 1510 Kuntzdorf 1736
villam novam, quae vulgariter Cuntzendorph nominatur ...in silva vulgariter dicta Poras 1383
Lodwigsdorf . . . in vnserm Zeywisschem weigbilde gelegen 1445
villa Michilsdorf 1408
Muthindorf ca. 1305 Mickendorff 1566) Mückendorf, polnisch Komorowice 1796— 1802
versus Tzus est edificata una villa que vocatur Nuendorf ... Nuendorff 1405 versus Czucz est edificata una villa, quae vocatur Nuendorff 1470—1480
in villa nostra dicta Noua Villa, vulgariter autem Daz Newdorf 1369 in districtu Lanchudensi ...Nawedorph 1384
Nickelstorff. . .bis zu den Grenitzen des Dorfs Kemnitz 1312 wald bei Nickelsdorf, in unserm teschnischen und auswintzschen gebiete and weichbilde gelegen 1413 Niffkelstorf 1547 Nickelstorff 1566 Niclsdorf, polnisch Mikuszowice 1736
Petirsdorf in ...Zeywischem weigbilde gelegen 1445
allodium ... Prokendorff 1395 allodil Prokendorff 1396
in dem Swarczen dorfe 1394 im Schwarczendorffe 1424
de Duabus capris seu Siffridivilla deserta 1325—1327 von Seyfridsdorf l4l3 Seibersdorf 1736
Beigelsdorff 1400
de Wilmsdorff prope Libenwerde 1440 Wilmesduf 1529
de Benerhaw 1389 de Benirhaw 1395
item Wusserhaw, Tzetzemil; predicte ville sunt versus Kozegow ... item Wiszna Antiquum et Novum tenet Mitzka et Paska, fratres dicti Wisinsky, et etiam tenent Busserhow 1405 Busserhaw 1470-1480
de Hannushaw 1389 de Hannishaw 1397 de Hanushow, de Hoczow 1444
Helwygeshow 1384 Halbigshawe 1466 Halbigeshaw 1482
in districtu Lanchudensi ... Henselshow 1384
Kotkenhaw 1410 de Kotkenhaw 1432 de Cockenhaw 1452
Markenhow 1384 von Markinhaw 1437 von Marckenhawe 1465
villa vocatur Nebelichshaw dicta Przesik ... item Neblichhow ... item Kemenitz et Neblickshaw 1405 Noblicshaw 1470—1480
villae ... Schygod vel Schottenhow 1317
Schuffnerhaw 1470—1480
villam nostram Thomkynhaw wlgariter Pacoschokka ... in terra Sanocensi sitam 1408
von Czepenshaw 1473 Czeppenshaw 1474 von Czeppenszhaw 1478
partem molendini ... versus Willemshaw 1398
Wilmeshau // Wilamowice bei Auschwitz von Wilmeschau 1439 von Wilmeschau 1443 von Wylmysaw 1447
de Woytyshan 1389
Harte // Harta Dolna, Górna und Wysoka bei Brzozów Hartha 1429
Krummbach // Krempachy bei Nowy Targ Krompach 1439
Die Spuren der Walddeutschen finden sich auch in vielen Familiennamen in der gesamten Region: Besonders häufig sind folgende:
Polnischer Familienname | ursprünglicher deutscher Familienname |
---|---|
Bonar | Benner |
Aszlar | Hassler |
Balawender, Balawajder | Bärenwälder |
Bar | Baur, Bauer |
Bajgier | Beiger, Berger |
Butnar, Bytnar | Büttner |
Cymerman | Zimmermann |
Cypcar | Zipser |
Czuchman | Schuchmann |
Dreslar | Dressler |
Flejszar | Fleischer |
Gefert | Geppert, Gebhard |
Gierlach, Gierloch | Gerlach |
Hofman | Hoffmann |
Ekiert | Heckerth |
Jekiel | Jäckel |
Inglot | Engelhard |
Kenar | Kenner |
Kinel | Kienel, Künel |
Klejna | Kleiner |
Klejna | Kleiner |
Krauze | Krause |
Krukar | Krüger, Kruger |
Kyellar | Keller |
Kochman, Kochmanski | Kochmann |
Krausz | Krauss |
Kuter | Kütter |
Miiller | Müller |
Majer, Mejer | Mayer, Meyer |
Międlar | Mildner |
Nikiel | Nickel |
Nojman | Neumann |
Pulnar | Bullner |
Rajchel | Reichel |
Rozenbajger, Rozenbajgier | Rosenberger |
Rysz | Reiss |
Sziler, Szeler, Szylar, Silar | Schiller |
Szmid | Schmidt |
Solcz | Scholz |
Szyndlar | Schindler |
Szprynglar | Springler |
Szreder | Schröder |
Szulc | Schulz, Schultz |
Szwarc | Schwartz |
Szpytma | Späthmann |
Szubart, Szuwart | Schubert |
Schubryt, Szubrycht | Schubricht |
Szuch | Schuh |
Szumakier | Schuhmacher |
Szuster | Schuster |
Pelc | Pelz |
Pelczar | Pelzer |
Pojnar | Polnar |
Rozenbark, Rozembark | Rosenberg |
Rajchel, Raichel | Reichel |
Rygiel | Riegel |
Rymar | Reimer |
Tejchma | Teichmann |
Trojnar | Treuner |
Tys | Theiss |
Ulma | Uhlmann |
Weys, Weisz, Wajs, Wais | Weiss |
Weisgirb | Weissgerber |
Subect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walddeutsche
The Walddeutsche were not "Germans".
Your assessment implies that the "Walddeutsche" were ethnic Germans and that's absolutely false. The nickname "Gluszy Niemcy" (literally meaning "wilderness Germans" from which "Walddeutsche" was later derived) was coined over 700 years ago to merely indicate where these folks came from and where they now lived - they came Germanic lands and now live in our forests. But these folks were West Slavic Sorbs from Lusatia (in Saxony) whose language was Sorbian, which is related to Polish but includes some German words. They were members of the ancient West Slavic Lusatian tribe and their homeland was Lusatia (today, Saxony).
The Sorbs may have come from within Saxony (and possibly Brandenburg as well) which was a Germanic state, but to simply state that they were "mostly of German origin" is entirely misleading. It implies that they were ethnically Germanic and they certainly were not. Further, there is little or no evidence of Germanic genes among the population in today's Malopolska and Podkarpackie Provinces. DNA doesn't lie. If your case was correct, I should have some Germanic genes because I have two distinct lines of "Niemiec" ancestors from this area, but I don't.
You are basing your assessment entirely on a Polish nickname and have somehow managed to screw up even the meaning of the nickname at the very beginning of the article. "Gluchoniemcy" ("deaf Germans") is apparently a Germanic mistranslation of "Gluszy Niemcy" ("Woods Germans"). Type them as keywords and check the Google search results for yourself - Gluchoniemcy: 34,100, Gluszyniemcy: 882,000. You ignore that fact that these are Sorbs who are refered to as Saxons - not Germans - and Saxony was/is home to a large population of Sorbs. There's still about 40,000 living in Saxony and their language is considered locally as an equal to German by civil law.
Your footnotes contain much of this information but you have misinterpreted them.
King Casimir the Great was a truly wise monarch. Do you really believe that he'd invite a bunch of Germans to resettle his kingdom, depleted after the Mongol Invasions, when countless Sorbs - who were ethnic West Slavs, already spoke a language akin to Polish, and were becoming increasely surrounded by an expanding Saxon state - were ready and willing to make the trek? King Casimir invited many folks to pioneer and rebuild his kingdom (including Jews who were persecuted elsewhere in Europe), doubled the size of his realm, issued thousands of town charters, established strong diplomatic links to neighboring states, and laid the foundation for a long lasting Polish state. He was too smart to do what you assert in your assessment.
Sincerely,
Dennis Benarz Editor, http://spuscizna.org/ Email: benarz@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.39.235.114 ( talk) 05:44, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
The proper word is "głusza", not "głusz" and it's not a wood, but wilderness, the desolate place. It could be some "dead silent" part of the forest, but certainly it doesn't mean "wood". I couldn't find any reliable sources proving stated etymology and both the wrong word + wrong translation + lack of other sources makes me think it might be simply a folk etymology. It's not a pun, not a sort of a pun, but simply a mistake. For the record: I'm aware that modern language might be different, so I've checked also in the old dictionaries and even older literature - "głusza" is not used as woods ("las"). Krzysiu ( talk) 23:53, 19 May 2019 (UTC)