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According to Josep Borell, the EU foreign policy chief, von der Leyen's approach to Palestine is nakedly pro-Israel and has done damage to the EU's standing in the world. This he said to El País, arguably to the top newspaper in Spain which more than fits the bill for a reliable source on Wikipedia. However, users User:Luxofluxo and User:Nillurcheier are trying to remove mention of Borell's very noteworthy views on von der Leyen's pro-Israel activism, with barely a semblance of good reasons, with the result that only positive appraisals of her are left in the entry. Is this how this entry is supposed to be? Peleio Aquiles ( talk) 14:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240528-european-commission-president-accused-of-complicity-in-israels-war-crimes-at-icc/; is this a reliable source? I found this information in Italian language by simply writing "Ursula von der Leyen" into Google, so not actively, and then I searched, and found, an English language source. I'm not against anyone, I'm just curious. JacktheBrown ( talk) 23:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Apparently, VDL was involved in a scandal with McKinsey:
https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-biography-career-inconvenient-truth/
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-scandal-hanging-over-ursula-von-der-leyen/
https://taz.de/Berateraffaere-Verteidigungsministerium/!5579453/
Also slightly related but not reported is that her son took a job there: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-von-der-leyen-b34a2778/
Will create a section but I'd prefer if someone more knowledgeable volunteers instead Oneequalsequalsone ( talk) 13:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
@ K1812 I see you made your point through editing. I agree that a German newspaper writing to a German audience will not have the evaluation of "excellent" English that a wiki article needs.
Do you mind explaining why you felt that "fluent" was overstating things? Mind that fluent does not mean perfect, or accent-free or anything. Do you think additional sources are needed? Like these: Vogue, BBC - both make "fluent" explicit. JackTheSecond ( talk) 20:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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According to Josep Borell, the EU foreign policy chief, von der Leyen's approach to Palestine is nakedly pro-Israel and has done damage to the EU's standing in the world. This he said to El País, arguably to the top newspaper in Spain which more than fits the bill for a reliable source on Wikipedia. However, users User:Luxofluxo and User:Nillurcheier are trying to remove mention of Borell's very noteworthy views on von der Leyen's pro-Israel activism, with barely a semblance of good reasons, with the result that only positive appraisals of her are left in the entry. Is this how this entry is supposed to be? Peleio Aquiles ( talk) 14:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240528-european-commission-president-accused-of-complicity-in-israels-war-crimes-at-icc/; is this a reliable source? I found this information in Italian language by simply writing "Ursula von der Leyen" into Google, so not actively, and then I searched, and found, an English language source. I'm not against anyone, I'm just curious. JacktheBrown ( talk) 23:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Apparently, VDL was involved in a scandal with McKinsey:
https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-biography-career-inconvenient-truth/
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-scandal-hanging-over-ursula-von-der-leyen/
https://taz.de/Berateraffaere-Verteidigungsministerium/!5579453/
Also slightly related but not reported is that her son took a job there: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-von-der-leyen-b34a2778/
Will create a section but I'd prefer if someone more knowledgeable volunteers instead Oneequalsequalsone ( talk) 13:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
@ K1812 I see you made your point through editing. I agree that a German newspaper writing to a German audience will not have the evaluation of "excellent" English that a wiki article needs.
Do you mind explaining why you felt that "fluent" was overstating things? Mind that fluent does not mean perfect, or accent-free or anything. Do you think additional sources are needed? Like these: Vogue, BBC - both make "fluent" explicit. JackTheSecond ( talk) 20:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)