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There has been a Members Section added again on the page. Although i can see that it's just okay top put the infos. But i'm thinking that Wikipedia requires some sources. Please help in adding sources. jmarkfrancia ( talk) 13:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello, since the page of UKISS has been tagged for reimprovement and cleaning. I already fixed the data so it would fall in categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JmKissme ( talk • contribs) 11:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
For some time now a few editors have been trying repeatedly to insert a members section into this article with very trivial information such as blood type, weight, height, etc. Time and time again, trivial information like this has been removed from many bands, especially Korean boy bands or girl groups. Most if not all of the information should not be included because it bears no real significance to the band. As for what material might still fit in this article, it can be included in the general content, not in a list, of course only if it is
sourced. I will again remove the members section, but if you disagree with me, make your argument here. Do not restore it again without bringing your arguments here.
Sorafune
+1 22:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
jmarkfrancia (
talk) 16:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC) Done
Hi everyone who's helping to edit this article. Thanks for your help in trying to help other people to understand and know U-KISS more. Just wondering, if anyone is familiar with the referencing process, can you please help to reference some websites for this article. Your help will be greatly appreciated! A referenced article is an article whom people trust more! Thankyou(: —Preceding
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Libeika (
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Done I already added Refernces to most parts of the page to make it reliably source.
jmarkfrancia (
talk) 04:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I've heard about it just today and I must say I am very shocked.
However, I must say the level of unnecessary spam by the fans here is not good. This is Wikipedia, not a blog!!
Since I'm not that great at editing 'big' things on Wikipedia, because I'm too chicken to do so...someone please help? ^^ Because honestly I don't like seeing an article like this.
WTF is with the 'RIP GOOD UKISS' thing BTW?! o_0
Spongalicious ( talk) 07:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
{{edit semi-protected}}
The information regarding Kim Kibum's departure from the group has been addressed. According to Kibum, the company told the group that they were going to replace two of the members. Kibum was one of the members to be replaced and Alexander was the other. The company requested that Kibum sign a contract dissolution, which he signed because he saw within himself that he was indeed lacking as a singer.
Alexander's contract however was not cancelled, he was just pulled from the band.
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/kim-kibum-explains-his-departure-from-u-kiss http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/u-kisss-kim-kibum-provides-further-detail-on-withdrawal-on-kbss-entertainers Jae91 ( talk) 23:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Not done:
{{
edit semi-protected}}
is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Since the page is no longer protected, the edit can be made directly. I have no idea if the edit should be made or not, but that can be worked out through discussion if there is objection to the edit.
Qwyrxian (
talk) 02:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Please stop adding a "Members" section that only consists of the names and birth dates. 1) Birthdates are irrelevant to the topic of this article, the band. 2) Birthdates, even if they were somehow relevant REQUIRE SOURCES 3) A members section onsisting only of the names of the band is duplicative because it is already covered as it should be in the lead paragraph.
As long as inappropriate "Members" sections continue to be added, THEY WILL BE REMOVED ON SIGHT. Active Banana (bananaphone 12:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Done
ahhahaahahha jkgbklgh no no more wikii what ever is it no more no more ahhahahaahha
If you are about to put information in the page and you are not sure where to put it, please post it in the talk page first so we can sort informations very well. And ofcourse, don't forget to add here the source. jmarkfrancia ( talk) 08:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Do you think this article is qualified to be an A-Class Article? jmarkfrancia ( talk) 10:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I see an edit war about to start here. I see a big difference in opinion about how much detail to include. I have a hunch which side matches policy, but I'll leave it to all of you to sort out. Please note that this protection is not, in any way, an endorsement of the current version of the article; I simply protected it at the most recent edit. If you all can't come to an agreement, try dispute resolution. Since it looks like a major part of the concerns revolves around WP:UNDUE, I recommend that if discussion isn't fruitful here, you try the neutral point of view noticeboard, which handles UNDUE issues. Qwyrxian ( talk) 11:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
The current, protected version is a mess and totally out of whack with Wikipedia's guidelines: trivia, excessive detail, unreliable sources--basically, fan talk. But before we tackle such stuff as WP:UNDUE and WP:RS, perhaps a clear violation of the BLP guidelines can be made clear; perhaps there is one thing we can agree on initially.
This edit is unacceptable. First of all, it bloats the article with trivial information which does it no favors--look, for instance, at how a Featured Article, U2, tackles the list of members: you'll have to look carefully and then you'll find four names in the infobox. That's all. Second, these people have their own articles, which is where ALL this information should be found. Third, the birth dates are unverified, and a quick look at Yeo Hoonmin tells me that it's not even verified in his own article. Obviously I am not counting the band's own site as a reliable sources. In short: it's not properly verified, it's out of place, it's redundant, it's not found in good articles--it's fan talk. Drmies ( talk) 13:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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A lot of the positions of this team is wrong. Dongho- Sub-Vocalist, Rapper, Maknae; Soohyun- Main Vocalist, Leader; Kiseop- Sub-Vocalist, Main Dancer, Visual; Eli- Main Rapper; Hoon- Lead Vocalist; AJ- Lead Rapper; Kevin- Main Vocalist, Lead Dancer; 143.88.0.213 ( talk) 16:44, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Please do not re-add the member table. Use a simple list with stage and given names or put them in prose. The goal is to have a nice section in prose eventually. However, since most members have their own articles, it is not really needed on this particular article. Member tables are bulky and add no relevant information to the article; birthdays are not appropriate on group articles. Please take a look at articles of groups outside kpop for further guidance. Thanks and happy editing! :) Shinyang-i ( talk) 05:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Just want to sort out a couple of things here: In your edit summary, you put "Do not change this please. previous info was incorrect", so I assumed that you meant the table. If it was something like "members' names were incorrect", other editors would have been notified right away. Even so, the position was still unsourced. The members (except for 3) have their individual articles, you can find the specific info about them on their pages instead.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory of things. Don't make the argument that it's K-pop. K-pop is no exception. Not everything is supposed to be on here. Wikipedia has a guideline, it needs "proper sources" WP:UNSOURCED and notability WP:GNG. If you care so much about any particular artist, then please improve it. Add the proper citation and show that the artist is notable. For Shin Soohyun though, he does not have any notability outside of his group, so it's not appropriate for him to have a standalone article. Please read WP:MUS. His existence alone does not qualify for his notability.
Instead of arguing about the members' table, elaborate about those members and their important roles. Like I said, prove it. If you can, also elaborate why K-pop is unique and different along the way. If they really "had multiple activities outside of group activities and UKISS", then find the reliable sources, and say something like this "He is the leader of the group. He has done this, this and this for UKiss. Outside of the group, he has also done this, this and this...". Prove it, add back the position too (with proper sources). Now, the section would be much more meaningful because we understand their important roles within the group.-- TerryAlex ( talk) 09:01, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Venate Please explain how Paran is an associated act. They are not mentioned in the article so proof is required. Thanks. -- Random86 ( talk) 01:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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I think it's a bit missleading to simply write that kibum left the group. His contract was terminated by the agency because they wanted a member change since they felt he didn't have enough talent to fit into the group. Peachywink ( talk) 16:29, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
I reverted the addition of the concert table. In my edit-summary, I referred to the concerts as unsourced. I realise now that the concerts on the table are also described in the article text where they are cited. This means the table is redundant because the concerts are described and cited in the prose. Dr. K. 22:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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Ive been visiting this page for a long time, allow me to add reference to everything that was written here. Thank You. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
JmKissme (
talk •
contribs) 11:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC) Done
There has been a Members Section added again on the page. Although i can see that it's just okay top put the infos. But i'm thinking that Wikipedia requires some sources. Please help in adding sources. jmarkfrancia ( talk) 13:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello, since the page of UKISS has been tagged for reimprovement and cleaning. I already fixed the data so it would fall in categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JmKissme ( talk • contribs) 11:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
For some time now a few editors have been trying repeatedly to insert a members section into this article with very trivial information such as blood type, weight, height, etc. Time and time again, trivial information like this has been removed from many bands, especially Korean boy bands or girl groups. Most if not all of the information should not be included because it bears no real significance to the band. As for what material might still fit in this article, it can be included in the general content, not in a list, of course only if it is
sourced. I will again remove the members section, but if you disagree with me, make your argument here. Do not restore it again without bringing your arguments here.
Sorafune
+1 22:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
jmarkfrancia (
talk) 16:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC) Done
Hi everyone who's helping to edit this article. Thanks for your help in trying to help other people to understand and know U-KISS more. Just wondering, if anyone is familiar with the referencing process, can you please help to reference some websites for this article. Your help will be greatly appreciated! A referenced article is an article whom people trust more! Thankyou(: —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Libeika (
talk •
contribs) 14:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC) Done
Done I already added Refernces to most parts of the page to make it reliably source.
jmarkfrancia (
talk) 04:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I've heard about it just today and I must say I am very shocked.
However, I must say the level of unnecessary spam by the fans here is not good. This is Wikipedia, not a blog!!
Since I'm not that great at editing 'big' things on Wikipedia, because I'm too chicken to do so...someone please help? ^^ Because honestly I don't like seeing an article like this.
WTF is with the 'RIP GOOD UKISS' thing BTW?! o_0
Spongalicious ( talk) 07:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
{{edit semi-protected}}
The information regarding Kim Kibum's departure from the group has been addressed. According to Kibum, the company told the group that they were going to replace two of the members. Kibum was one of the members to be replaced and Alexander was the other. The company requested that Kibum sign a contract dissolution, which he signed because he saw within himself that he was indeed lacking as a singer.
Alexander's contract however was not cancelled, he was just pulled from the band.
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/kim-kibum-explains-his-departure-from-u-kiss http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/u-kisss-kim-kibum-provides-further-detail-on-withdrawal-on-kbss-entertainers Jae91 ( talk) 23:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Not done:
{{
edit semi-protected}}
is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Since the page is no longer protected, the edit can be made directly. I have no idea if the edit should be made or not, but that can be worked out through discussion if there is objection to the edit.
Qwyrxian (
talk) 02:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Please stop adding a "Members" section that only consists of the names and birth dates. 1) Birthdates are irrelevant to the topic of this article, the band. 2) Birthdates, even if they were somehow relevant REQUIRE SOURCES 3) A members section onsisting only of the names of the band is duplicative because it is already covered as it should be in the lead paragraph.
As long as inappropriate "Members" sections continue to be added, THEY WILL BE REMOVED ON SIGHT. Active Banana (bananaphone 12:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Done
ahhahaahahha jkgbklgh no no more wikii what ever is it no more no more ahhahahaahha
If you are about to put information in the page and you are not sure where to put it, please post it in the talk page first so we can sort informations very well. And ofcourse, don't forget to add here the source. jmarkfrancia ( talk) 08:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Do you think this article is qualified to be an A-Class Article? jmarkfrancia ( talk) 10:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I see an edit war about to start here. I see a big difference in opinion about how much detail to include. I have a hunch which side matches policy, but I'll leave it to all of you to sort out. Please note that this protection is not, in any way, an endorsement of the current version of the article; I simply protected it at the most recent edit. If you all can't come to an agreement, try dispute resolution. Since it looks like a major part of the concerns revolves around WP:UNDUE, I recommend that if discussion isn't fruitful here, you try the neutral point of view noticeboard, which handles UNDUE issues. Qwyrxian ( talk) 11:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
The current, protected version is a mess and totally out of whack with Wikipedia's guidelines: trivia, excessive detail, unreliable sources--basically, fan talk. But before we tackle such stuff as WP:UNDUE and WP:RS, perhaps a clear violation of the BLP guidelines can be made clear; perhaps there is one thing we can agree on initially.
This edit is unacceptable. First of all, it bloats the article with trivial information which does it no favors--look, for instance, at how a Featured Article, U2, tackles the list of members: you'll have to look carefully and then you'll find four names in the infobox. That's all. Second, these people have their own articles, which is where ALL this information should be found. Third, the birth dates are unverified, and a quick look at Yeo Hoonmin tells me that it's not even verified in his own article. Obviously I am not counting the band's own site as a reliable sources. In short: it's not properly verified, it's out of place, it's redundant, it's not found in good articles--it's fan talk. Drmies ( talk) 13:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
A lot of the positions of this team is wrong. Dongho- Sub-Vocalist, Rapper, Maknae; Soohyun- Main Vocalist, Leader; Kiseop- Sub-Vocalist, Main Dancer, Visual; Eli- Main Rapper; Hoon- Lead Vocalist; AJ- Lead Rapper; Kevin- Main Vocalist, Lead Dancer; 143.88.0.213 ( talk) 16:44, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Please do not re-add the member table. Use a simple list with stage and given names or put them in prose. The goal is to have a nice section in prose eventually. However, since most members have their own articles, it is not really needed on this particular article. Member tables are bulky and add no relevant information to the article; birthdays are not appropriate on group articles. Please take a look at articles of groups outside kpop for further guidance. Thanks and happy editing! :) Shinyang-i ( talk) 05:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Just want to sort out a couple of things here: In your edit summary, you put "Do not change this please. previous info was incorrect", so I assumed that you meant the table. If it was something like "members' names were incorrect", other editors would have been notified right away. Even so, the position was still unsourced. The members (except for 3) have their individual articles, you can find the specific info about them on their pages instead.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory of things. Don't make the argument that it's K-pop. K-pop is no exception. Not everything is supposed to be on here. Wikipedia has a guideline, it needs "proper sources" WP:UNSOURCED and notability WP:GNG. If you care so much about any particular artist, then please improve it. Add the proper citation and show that the artist is notable. For Shin Soohyun though, he does not have any notability outside of his group, so it's not appropriate for him to have a standalone article. Please read WP:MUS. His existence alone does not qualify for his notability.
Instead of arguing about the members' table, elaborate about those members and their important roles. Like I said, prove it. If you can, also elaborate why K-pop is unique and different along the way. If they really "had multiple activities outside of group activities and UKISS", then find the reliable sources, and say something like this "He is the leader of the group. He has done this, this and this for UKiss. Outside of the group, he has also done this, this and this...". Prove it, add back the position too (with proper sources). Now, the section would be much more meaningful because we understand their important roles within the group.-- TerryAlex ( talk) 09:01, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Venate Please explain how Paran is an associated act. They are not mentioned in the article so proof is required. Thanks. -- Random86 ( talk) 01:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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I have just added archive links to one external link on
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I think it's a bit missleading to simply write that kibum left the group. His contract was terminated by the agency because they wanted a member change since they felt he didn't have enough talent to fit into the group. Peachywink ( talk) 16:29, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
I reverted the addition of the concert table. In my edit-summary, I referred to the concerts as unsourced. I realise now that the concerts on the table are also described in the article text where they are cited. This means the table is redundant because the concerts are described and cited in the prose. Dr. K. 22:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)