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Ren0 reverted my image to his previous one, and I changed it. The overhead shot of the white MKIV is a bad angle, in bad light. If you don't like my photo, find a better one but no professional photographer can dispute that my image is aesthetically superior. -- DOHC Holiday 01:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Rims and seats are not much of a mod, I don't think they detract much from the overall nature of the vehicle. Also, you would be hard pressed to find any MK4 with no mods these days. -- DOHC Holiday 16:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I RE reverted to my image from the replacement by Vanstrapp. He stated that the Targa was "Not Standard" when in fact the vast majority of MKIV's were Targa-equipped. Hardtops are very rare and desirable. -- DOHC Holiday 23:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I feel it is misleading to have the first picture on the page of a highly modified Supra. If I look up a car I want to know what it looks like, not what one specific highly modified version looks like. Anyone else agree? Don't get me wrong, the modified one is great if that sort of thing is your interest, but its not typical of the marque. Also, I am unsure of the copywrite legality of the modified car image. TiHead 15:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
i have removed it for various reasons.
1. that is a highly modified toyota supra not in stock form
2. that car should not represent what ALL of the toyota supra's look like. there are four generations and they are noted with images of (near) stock supras already. (that MKIV supra isn't stock...)
thank you. ren0 talk 07:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I uploaded a picture of my MKIV Supra when it was completely stock. The one on the page is still aftermarket. You're welcome to use this picture. Braddman 14:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/667710210_920286.jpg
The link to the 1981 Toyota Celica Supra Sales Brochure (PDF) does not work, just so you know. Great article btw.
If anyone has information in MKII Supras around the world, please don't be afraid to add it. Preferably in the same format as i have started. Come on, we need more countries in there. ren0 talk 17:39, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Just uploaded Image:Toyota Supra Mk IV model.jpg, the car is not modified. :) κаллэмакс 20:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Note to ren0: There's no need to upload smaller pictures to make them fit in the article! Just use the "thumb" tag to make a thumbnail:
[[Image:This is a large picture.jpg|thumb|300px|This is a large picture that has been thumbnailed]]
κаллэмакс 20:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
well as of late i have ran out of any free time to work on this article and i only got to the MKII section. if anyone out there would like to complete the other sections it would be awesome. i still plan on watching this article to make sure people don't put crazy stupid stuff in here and i also plan on adding stuff, just a lot more slowly than how fast i wrote the MKI and MKII stuff up.
please if you do plan to edit and add tons of info follow my template that i have set up on the other sections. when it gets to the quick info portion, if you are working on that, just send me a talk and i will be glad to help you out with the table work (assuming you aren't too familiar with it).
thank you.
ren0 talk 18:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Without a doubt, all Supras have 950hp+. The most overrated car of course is the 10,000 hp Nissan Skyline, of which one exists. Nuff said. Keep this Supra page real. CJ DUB 18:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Curb weight 3000lbs.? Good luck in doing that. So its gonna be lighter than a Supra and STILL have a 5.0L engine? I'd love to know how they are doing that. Rice-paper maybe? This car will be 3500lbs. minimum as are all supercars. Also, mentioning its somewhat based off a F1 platform is a massive misnomer, considereding the meaning of the word platform in automobiles. If its even close to a race design a la the Carrera GT or F430 its gonna be more expensive than fitty grand. CJ DUB 00:11, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I can open the eyes of the entire Supra enthusiast community in regards to how the Supra has been given additional fictional names, that ultimately do not belong in the grand scheme of things (the history and life of the Supra). The story i have will bring alot of debate, but i believe in it and think it should be added to the Supra Wikipedia. Ill add to this asap. Mr williams
Where is an appropriate place to mention the BHG problem on the Mark 3? For better or for worse this is an important part of the car's history. Spazquest 05:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Amazing work Reo0. Just some minor points though, this is in regard to the JDM model, my knowledge of the export model is very limited.
"However, the turbo model used 4-piston brake calipers on the front and 2-piston calipers for the rear."
In regard to the JDM model this is an over simplification. They were a factory option in the RZ until 95, the RZ-S model had the smaller brakes and the SZ-R (a non turbo model) was factory optioned with larger brakes. Just to confuse matters in the 96 the SZ-R came with the large brakes standard.
"For 1997, the manual transmission is back for the optional engine along with a redesign of the tail lights, front fascia, chromed wheels, and other minor changes such as the radio and steering wheel designs."
Speaking for the JDM Supra the styling changes were introduced in May 96. This including a restyled front bar, head lights, tail lights, 5 guage instrement cluster and steering wheel. Although the wheel style was changed they were not chrome wheels. Also in Sep 97 the 2JZ-GTE VVTI engine was introduced.
"For 1998, the radio and steering wheel were redesigned once again. The naturally aspirated engine was enhanced with VVTI"
In regard to the VVTI, this applies only to the export model, JDM 2JZ-GE was not released with VVTI.
Also, please correct vehicle profile box. Supra has never been a 3-door hatchback. It's a coupe. //andyye
THE Toyota Supra is Also called Toyota Supra? Should this be revised? "i thought the also called tag" was used for example Nissan skyline gt-r aka Godzilla
Thanks for the input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EDIT TYPER ( talk • contribs)
there should be a section or at least some mention of compression ratio between the years for the mkiv supras. the naturally aspirated 2jzge is 10.1:1 and the turbo 1jzgte is 8.5:1 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.136.158.253 ( talk) 01:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC).
I think everybody did a very good job building this page. It is very well organized and thought out.
...One thing that I think is needed is a picture of the Celica Supra Symbol. The Dragon.
Otherwise I think it is all good. Especially the MKIII section. Being a MKIII owner I tend to see this generation (and older) left out a lot. I am glad every generation was thuroughly described.
PulsHrd
15:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I apologize if I do this wrong, as this is my first edit. But the dragon is not the emblem of the celica supra. It's the emblem of the celica. the mk2 celica supra has the dragon because it's a celica, with the sub model being supra. ~~silverton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.41.25 ( talk) 23:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
As the proud owner of a 1992 Mark III Turbo for the last eight years I would like to add a few comments. This is my first contribution to Wikipedia so please bear with me...
As I understand it the Mark III was based on the Lexus LS300 and was built in the Lexus factory. Platform, suspension, engine & drivetrain are all LS300, I believe.
The turbo version is fitted with a limited slip differential which makes the car tail happy in the wet due to lack of traction control (and attracted heavy criticism from the UK motoring press).
My car suffered from the infamous head gasket problem which destroyed the engine. In spite of it's then age (5 years) and 120,000 miles Toyota contributed 50% of the replacement engine cost, partly due to the German garage making a hames of the repair.
Another common problem with the turbo engine is the pressure blow off valve shattering its plastic sealing ring leading to poor throttle response (the blow off valve diverts pressurised air back around the intake tract on sudden throttle shut off to prevent turbo stall. It has a plastic seal just like a large tap washer. Replacement is very easy).
DesmondW 20:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Outside edit: That isn't accurate about the suspension or Lexus. The Supra's suspension( not Celica, pre 86.5) was designed by a Lotus Engineer. Name dropping can be done if you really need it. The Lexus division, was not yet a division. Only an idea for North American marketing. There isn't an LS300 anyway. The LS400 was the Toyota Celsior. The ES250, the first Lexus, was a reskinned V6 Camry. The Supra was built in Toyota city, starting in January of 1986.
And common problems listed, are only common to you. After many years on the line, I saw few "common" problems that surfaced on the internet later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.234.2 ( talk) 18:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
I understand the policy in WP:NOT; however I personally think all of those links should be there as those are virtually the main sites that have more information on this car. There is no official Toyota Supra site anymore (well there is, but it is in references and it doesn't have much information). With the inclusion of those five sites it gives readers a chance to visit them and find (more advanced) technical information, a place to ask questions, and so on and so forth. On a side note, the list is much much smaller than in the past. So please, leave them there. ren0 talk 07:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
People are always looking for supras we should talk about adding Mkivtrader.com I'm open to any discussion about this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Parkerd ( talk • contribs) 08:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
In response to this note at the top of the section,
Notable appearances only - or one that people can remember in 5 years time
I'd like to point out that the De Lorean DMC-12 (currently a featured article) article has pretty much every media appearance of the car including many which could be considered non-notable. They just have to be integrated properly. ~ Dusk Knight 23:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
How come it was removed all of a sudden. There must be an explanation. The Supra became as a popular vehicle for the Gran Turismo and Need for Speed series. What happened? Professional Gamer 23:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Where in Japan was the Supra assembled?
Pam1855 10:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
This article may be too long according to Wikipedia:Article size. The "rule of thumb" says articles larger than 60KB probably should be split into multiple articles. This article is currently 65KB. Some options could be giving each generation a separate article (like Chevrolet Camaro) and "Toyota Supra in motorsports" could easily stand alone as an article. Any thoughts or suggestions on how this should be done or if it is necessary? ~ Dusk Knight 03:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need a Body Modifications section for the fourth generation Supra? This is currently unsourced and is not written with a NPOV. It doesn't seem notable for an encyclopedia. swa q 18:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
According to the article, all P-Type have a limited slip differential and an 83 has a 4.11 ratio while an 84-86 has a 4.30 ratio for the 5spd. If this is correct, then why does my 83 P-Type 5spd list a 3.73 OPEN carrier in the book and the differential tag? The same applies to my 84 P-Type 5spd which has a 4.11 LSD, not a 4.30 as listed in the article. Maybe the wording should be changed to list as optional instead of standard equipment? Sixthstar ( talk) 17:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
model (engine) | manual | auto |
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GA61 (1G-GEU) | 3.909 | 4.300 |
MA61 (5M-GEU) | 3.727 | 3.909 |
MA63 (M-TEU) | N/A | 4.300 |
I guess I was just lucky with the 5 7M powered cars and no blown headgaskets. The kids that pollute internet message boards have obviously been here also.
Toyota recalled problems just as all manufacturers do. But this car didn't have a problem. Owners did. The 92-95 3VZE engine in 4Runners and pickups for example, was recalled to change head gaskets. But not the Supra. Taking the stock engine and its 5 psi of boost pressure from the turbo and double or tripling the output doesn't mean the head gasket is bad, or the torque is too low. It means you are using it in a way that Toyota did not intend.
This is why the 8th and 9th generation inline 6, known as 1JZGE and 2JZGE and the turbo variants recieved factory metal gaskets. To accomidate owners that abuse products beyond what the manufacturer intended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.234.2 ( talk) 18:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it worth adding a subsection - or even a line - mentioning the Red Toyota Supra Mark iii that is among the BBC's stock of older/vintage cars it uses for some shoots? It has already appeared in [Clocking Off], [Only fools and Horses] (the 2002 Christmas special - only part of the wing & door) [Doctors] (in 2004) and [Eastenders]. The same car has just appeared in the background of [BBC_Television_Centre] on the News Channel just now. 132.185.240.120 ( talk) 16:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC) Dave
My recent changes to this article were reverted, leaving the article sub-headings inconsistent (1979-1981 headings vs. 1983-1998 headings, with no 1982 paragraph). Please discuss below so a consensus can be reached:
"Regarding you recent changes to Toyota Supra. North Americans like to use model years but other markets have no idea what model years mean. To readers from other countries, a 1981 Supra means the model that was introduced within the 1981 calendar year. To avoid ambiguity and confusion, we try not to say '1981 Supra' and try to only talk about calendar years (eg 'in 1981 the Supra ...'). All headings are in calendar years. Exceptions are allowed for purely US only vehicles (eg Ford Mustang) but international vehicles are always in terms of calendar years. Cheers. Stepho talk 23:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)"
I know car guys wet themselves over calling everything "mark" or "mk," but does Toyota actually use this terminology themselves? If not, the article should not use it. I do not believe it to be the standard terminology among the general public - at least in English (VW being German gets a pass). The article would read much better and be more approachable to the general public if it simply used English words, e.g., "third generation" than mk abbreviations with Roman numerals, no normal person likes having to carefully check how many Is are at the end of MKII or MKIII. 70.39.231.187 ( talk) 14:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
User:Regushee has proposed that Toyota Celica XX be merged into Toyota Supra. Stepho talk 02:21, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Just reading the section titled "JZA70 and GA70" and noticed a statement that implies the 2.5GT Twin Turbo R is the only model to have front brake ducts in the front lip. I Quote "A special version of the 1JZ-GTE equipped JZA70, the 2.5 Twin Turbo R, had a Torsen differential, Bilstein suspension, larger diameter sway bars, Recaro seats, Momo wheel and gear knob and matching interior trim. The front lip included front brake ducts."
This isn't correct as there are many JZA70's with this specific feature. I have many pictures to back up this claim but am unsure if they would suffice? (wiki noob here)
Please advise...
-- Towawi ( talk) 11:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
In terms of history. Toyota Motor Sales is an American Company whose parent company is Toyota Motor co out of Japan. They have made things up for American markets. Go here to see vehicle history. http://www.toyota-global.com/company/history_of_toyota/75years/vehicle_lineage/family_tree/index.html.
Go to Supra. The model starts in 1986, and there are only 2 of them. And neither is "mark 1" and up. - signed 2602:306:3ae4:ad20:90ca:54c3:8bb7:286f
I've found a couple of sites that says that the FT-1 concept was scrapped due to a BMW-Toyota partnership for the Supra.
http://www.motoring.com.au/more-details-of-toyota-supra-successor-emerge-52647/ https://artofgears.com/2015/07/22/2017-toyota-supra-may-have-470-hp-ditching-ft-1-concept-exterior/
It maybe just rumours right now that the FT-1 design will not be used but, there is still uncertainty on whether or not the FT-1 is really the proposed design for the Supra. Grigrass ( talk) 14:54, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Is this many really necessary? The 5M and 7m engines are direct descendants of the 2000GT's power plant. There needs to be no citation from my perspective. There's a tag on the fact that all supra's have inline 6 engines. The whole Supra gimmick comes from being a Celica with an inline 6. That's Supra. Someone went crazy with the [citation needed] tags. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.57.18.99 ( talk) 12:03, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
The J90 N.America version is expected to sell for US$49,990 (entry model), US$53,990 (premium model) or US$55,250 (Launch Edition) acording to https://www.motor1.com/news/300919/2020-toyota-supra-pricing-us/ . Or US$50,920 (entry model), US$54,920 (premium model) or US$56,180 (Launch Edition) according to https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-toyota-supra-priced-starting-at-50920/ . Don't you just love how the magazines agree with their facts copied from Toyota. Both references are in the article. Stepho talk 20:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Does it say it's obsolete? It would be better if you mind your business and improve your English as you're on the English Wiki. U1 quattro TALK 00:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The current Supra is manufactured by BMW. This can be confirmed by the data plate and VIN of all new Supras, which say “manufactured by Bavarian Motor Werke” and have a BMW “Z” in the vin certification and no Toyota “T” to be found. The info box and opening line needs to correctly state that this car is not manufactured by Toyota presently and is instead a BMW. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:4201:BBE3:343D:3795:E5DA:3798 ( talk) 20:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Right here. Read it and weep. That data plate is the official vehicle certification. It is not manufactured by Toyota. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-vs-its-competition/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:4400:144D:C412:5181:CABF:12DA ( talk) 05:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
I just thought you'd like to know. -- 129.106.31.181 ( talk) 15:12, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
The fifth generation Supra is marketed as the GR Supra in the United States and Canada, and just simply Supra everywhere else in the world. Just thought I should put that out there. I find it bizarre that it is not mentioned in the section. Eightsixofakina ( talk) 01:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I've just learned that the Supra is also called GR Supra in the UK, not just USA and Canada. I've added it in. Eightsixofakina ( talk) 21:17, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
The affection towards the A80 in this article is very strong which goes against the WP: NPOV policy. This is an informative article, it wasn't created to please the fans of the A80 and the like. The constant tries to get the image of the A80 in the main infobox highlights this bias. U1 quattro TALK 01:07, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I have just noticed the Toyota Supra (J29/DB) article. It is practically identical to the J29/DB section of the Toyota Supra article. I suspect it was copied from an earlier version. It is patently stupid to maintain practically identical copies in parallel. So I'm asking the community if they prefer to keep all the Supra information in this one large article (with the J29/DB being changed into a redirect to here) or to split the large article into separate, generational articles with simple summaries left here? My preference is to split it. Stepho talk 21:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
From my research the 1983 Toyota Celica supra, early 83 speedometer was the 85 later 83 model year it was switched to the 130 mph speedometer. KingCoolRobert ( talk) 17:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
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Ren0 reverted my image to his previous one, and I changed it. The overhead shot of the white MKIV is a bad angle, in bad light. If you don't like my photo, find a better one but no professional photographer can dispute that my image is aesthetically superior. -- DOHC Holiday 01:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Rims and seats are not much of a mod, I don't think they detract much from the overall nature of the vehicle. Also, you would be hard pressed to find any MK4 with no mods these days. -- DOHC Holiday 16:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I RE reverted to my image from the replacement by Vanstrapp. He stated that the Targa was "Not Standard" when in fact the vast majority of MKIV's were Targa-equipped. Hardtops are very rare and desirable. -- DOHC Holiday 23:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I feel it is misleading to have the first picture on the page of a highly modified Supra. If I look up a car I want to know what it looks like, not what one specific highly modified version looks like. Anyone else agree? Don't get me wrong, the modified one is great if that sort of thing is your interest, but its not typical of the marque. Also, I am unsure of the copywrite legality of the modified car image. TiHead 15:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
i have removed it for various reasons.
1. that is a highly modified toyota supra not in stock form
2. that car should not represent what ALL of the toyota supra's look like. there are four generations and they are noted with images of (near) stock supras already. (that MKIV supra isn't stock...)
thank you. ren0 talk 07:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I uploaded a picture of my MKIV Supra when it was completely stock. The one on the page is still aftermarket. You're welcome to use this picture. Braddman 14:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/667710210_920286.jpg
The link to the 1981 Toyota Celica Supra Sales Brochure (PDF) does not work, just so you know. Great article btw.
If anyone has information in MKII Supras around the world, please don't be afraid to add it. Preferably in the same format as i have started. Come on, we need more countries in there. ren0 talk 17:39, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Just uploaded Image:Toyota Supra Mk IV model.jpg, the car is not modified. :) κаллэмакс 20:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Note to ren0: There's no need to upload smaller pictures to make them fit in the article! Just use the "thumb" tag to make a thumbnail:
[[Image:This is a large picture.jpg|thumb|300px|This is a large picture that has been thumbnailed]]
κаллэмакс 20:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
well as of late i have ran out of any free time to work on this article and i only got to the MKII section. if anyone out there would like to complete the other sections it would be awesome. i still plan on watching this article to make sure people don't put crazy stupid stuff in here and i also plan on adding stuff, just a lot more slowly than how fast i wrote the MKI and MKII stuff up.
please if you do plan to edit and add tons of info follow my template that i have set up on the other sections. when it gets to the quick info portion, if you are working on that, just send me a talk and i will be glad to help you out with the table work (assuming you aren't too familiar with it).
thank you.
ren0 talk 18:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Without a doubt, all Supras have 950hp+. The most overrated car of course is the 10,000 hp Nissan Skyline, of which one exists. Nuff said. Keep this Supra page real. CJ DUB 18:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Curb weight 3000lbs.? Good luck in doing that. So its gonna be lighter than a Supra and STILL have a 5.0L engine? I'd love to know how they are doing that. Rice-paper maybe? This car will be 3500lbs. minimum as are all supercars. Also, mentioning its somewhat based off a F1 platform is a massive misnomer, considereding the meaning of the word platform in automobiles. If its even close to a race design a la the Carrera GT or F430 its gonna be more expensive than fitty grand. CJ DUB 00:11, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I can open the eyes of the entire Supra enthusiast community in regards to how the Supra has been given additional fictional names, that ultimately do not belong in the grand scheme of things (the history and life of the Supra). The story i have will bring alot of debate, but i believe in it and think it should be added to the Supra Wikipedia. Ill add to this asap. Mr williams
Where is an appropriate place to mention the BHG problem on the Mark 3? For better or for worse this is an important part of the car's history. Spazquest 05:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Amazing work Reo0. Just some minor points though, this is in regard to the JDM model, my knowledge of the export model is very limited.
"However, the turbo model used 4-piston brake calipers on the front and 2-piston calipers for the rear."
In regard to the JDM model this is an over simplification. They were a factory option in the RZ until 95, the RZ-S model had the smaller brakes and the SZ-R (a non turbo model) was factory optioned with larger brakes. Just to confuse matters in the 96 the SZ-R came with the large brakes standard.
"For 1997, the manual transmission is back for the optional engine along with a redesign of the tail lights, front fascia, chromed wheels, and other minor changes such as the radio and steering wheel designs."
Speaking for the JDM Supra the styling changes were introduced in May 96. This including a restyled front bar, head lights, tail lights, 5 guage instrement cluster and steering wheel. Although the wheel style was changed they were not chrome wheels. Also in Sep 97 the 2JZ-GTE VVTI engine was introduced.
"For 1998, the radio and steering wheel were redesigned once again. The naturally aspirated engine was enhanced with VVTI"
In regard to the VVTI, this applies only to the export model, JDM 2JZ-GE was not released with VVTI.
Also, please correct vehicle profile box. Supra has never been a 3-door hatchback. It's a coupe. //andyye
THE Toyota Supra is Also called Toyota Supra? Should this be revised? "i thought the also called tag" was used for example Nissan skyline gt-r aka Godzilla
Thanks for the input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EDIT TYPER ( talk • contribs)
there should be a section or at least some mention of compression ratio between the years for the mkiv supras. the naturally aspirated 2jzge is 10.1:1 and the turbo 1jzgte is 8.5:1 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.136.158.253 ( talk) 01:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC).
I think everybody did a very good job building this page. It is very well organized and thought out.
...One thing that I think is needed is a picture of the Celica Supra Symbol. The Dragon.
Otherwise I think it is all good. Especially the MKIII section. Being a MKIII owner I tend to see this generation (and older) left out a lot. I am glad every generation was thuroughly described.
PulsHrd
15:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I apologize if I do this wrong, as this is my first edit. But the dragon is not the emblem of the celica supra. It's the emblem of the celica. the mk2 celica supra has the dragon because it's a celica, with the sub model being supra. ~~silverton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.41.25 ( talk) 23:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
As the proud owner of a 1992 Mark III Turbo for the last eight years I would like to add a few comments. This is my first contribution to Wikipedia so please bear with me...
As I understand it the Mark III was based on the Lexus LS300 and was built in the Lexus factory. Platform, suspension, engine & drivetrain are all LS300, I believe.
The turbo version is fitted with a limited slip differential which makes the car tail happy in the wet due to lack of traction control (and attracted heavy criticism from the UK motoring press).
My car suffered from the infamous head gasket problem which destroyed the engine. In spite of it's then age (5 years) and 120,000 miles Toyota contributed 50% of the replacement engine cost, partly due to the German garage making a hames of the repair.
Another common problem with the turbo engine is the pressure blow off valve shattering its plastic sealing ring leading to poor throttle response (the blow off valve diverts pressurised air back around the intake tract on sudden throttle shut off to prevent turbo stall. It has a plastic seal just like a large tap washer. Replacement is very easy).
DesmondW 20:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Outside edit: That isn't accurate about the suspension or Lexus. The Supra's suspension( not Celica, pre 86.5) was designed by a Lotus Engineer. Name dropping can be done if you really need it. The Lexus division, was not yet a division. Only an idea for North American marketing. There isn't an LS300 anyway. The LS400 was the Toyota Celsior. The ES250, the first Lexus, was a reskinned V6 Camry. The Supra was built in Toyota city, starting in January of 1986.
And common problems listed, are only common to you. After many years on the line, I saw few "common" problems that surfaced on the internet later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.234.2 ( talk) 18:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
I understand the policy in WP:NOT; however I personally think all of those links should be there as those are virtually the main sites that have more information on this car. There is no official Toyota Supra site anymore (well there is, but it is in references and it doesn't have much information). With the inclusion of those five sites it gives readers a chance to visit them and find (more advanced) technical information, a place to ask questions, and so on and so forth. On a side note, the list is much much smaller than in the past. So please, leave them there. ren0 talk 07:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
People are always looking for supras we should talk about adding Mkivtrader.com I'm open to any discussion about this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Parkerd ( talk • contribs) 08:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
In response to this note at the top of the section,
Notable appearances only - or one that people can remember in 5 years time
I'd like to point out that the De Lorean DMC-12 (currently a featured article) article has pretty much every media appearance of the car including many which could be considered non-notable. They just have to be integrated properly. ~ Dusk Knight 23:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
How come it was removed all of a sudden. There must be an explanation. The Supra became as a popular vehicle for the Gran Turismo and Need for Speed series. What happened? Professional Gamer 23:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Where in Japan was the Supra assembled?
Pam1855 10:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
This article may be too long according to Wikipedia:Article size. The "rule of thumb" says articles larger than 60KB probably should be split into multiple articles. This article is currently 65KB. Some options could be giving each generation a separate article (like Chevrolet Camaro) and "Toyota Supra in motorsports" could easily stand alone as an article. Any thoughts or suggestions on how this should be done or if it is necessary? ~ Dusk Knight 03:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need a Body Modifications section for the fourth generation Supra? This is currently unsourced and is not written with a NPOV. It doesn't seem notable for an encyclopedia. swa q 18:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
According to the article, all P-Type have a limited slip differential and an 83 has a 4.11 ratio while an 84-86 has a 4.30 ratio for the 5spd. If this is correct, then why does my 83 P-Type 5spd list a 3.73 OPEN carrier in the book and the differential tag? The same applies to my 84 P-Type 5spd which has a 4.11 LSD, not a 4.30 as listed in the article. Maybe the wording should be changed to list as optional instead of standard equipment? Sixthstar ( talk) 17:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
model (engine) | manual | auto |
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GA61 (1G-GEU) | 3.909 | 4.300 |
MA61 (5M-GEU) | 3.727 | 3.909 |
MA63 (M-TEU) | N/A | 4.300 |
I guess I was just lucky with the 5 7M powered cars and no blown headgaskets. The kids that pollute internet message boards have obviously been here also.
Toyota recalled problems just as all manufacturers do. But this car didn't have a problem. Owners did. The 92-95 3VZE engine in 4Runners and pickups for example, was recalled to change head gaskets. But not the Supra. Taking the stock engine and its 5 psi of boost pressure from the turbo and double or tripling the output doesn't mean the head gasket is bad, or the torque is too low. It means you are using it in a way that Toyota did not intend.
This is why the 8th and 9th generation inline 6, known as 1JZGE and 2JZGE and the turbo variants recieved factory metal gaskets. To accomidate owners that abuse products beyond what the manufacturer intended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.68.234.2 ( talk) 18:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it worth adding a subsection - or even a line - mentioning the Red Toyota Supra Mark iii that is among the BBC's stock of older/vintage cars it uses for some shoots? It has already appeared in [Clocking Off], [Only fools and Horses] (the 2002 Christmas special - only part of the wing & door) [Doctors] (in 2004) and [Eastenders]. The same car has just appeared in the background of [BBC_Television_Centre] on the News Channel just now. 132.185.240.120 ( talk) 16:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC) Dave
My recent changes to this article were reverted, leaving the article sub-headings inconsistent (1979-1981 headings vs. 1983-1998 headings, with no 1982 paragraph). Please discuss below so a consensus can be reached:
"Regarding you recent changes to Toyota Supra. North Americans like to use model years but other markets have no idea what model years mean. To readers from other countries, a 1981 Supra means the model that was introduced within the 1981 calendar year. To avoid ambiguity and confusion, we try not to say '1981 Supra' and try to only talk about calendar years (eg 'in 1981 the Supra ...'). All headings are in calendar years. Exceptions are allowed for purely US only vehicles (eg Ford Mustang) but international vehicles are always in terms of calendar years. Cheers. Stepho talk 23:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)"
I know car guys wet themselves over calling everything "mark" or "mk," but does Toyota actually use this terminology themselves? If not, the article should not use it. I do not believe it to be the standard terminology among the general public - at least in English (VW being German gets a pass). The article would read much better and be more approachable to the general public if it simply used English words, e.g., "third generation" than mk abbreviations with Roman numerals, no normal person likes having to carefully check how many Is are at the end of MKII or MKIII. 70.39.231.187 ( talk) 14:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
User:Regushee has proposed that Toyota Celica XX be merged into Toyota Supra. Stepho talk 02:21, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Just reading the section titled "JZA70 and GA70" and noticed a statement that implies the 2.5GT Twin Turbo R is the only model to have front brake ducts in the front lip. I Quote "A special version of the 1JZ-GTE equipped JZA70, the 2.5 Twin Turbo R, had a Torsen differential, Bilstein suspension, larger diameter sway bars, Recaro seats, Momo wheel and gear knob and matching interior trim. The front lip included front brake ducts."
This isn't correct as there are many JZA70's with this specific feature. I have many pictures to back up this claim but am unsure if they would suffice? (wiki noob here)
Please advise...
-- Towawi ( talk) 11:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
In terms of history. Toyota Motor Sales is an American Company whose parent company is Toyota Motor co out of Japan. They have made things up for American markets. Go here to see vehicle history. http://www.toyota-global.com/company/history_of_toyota/75years/vehicle_lineage/family_tree/index.html.
Go to Supra. The model starts in 1986, and there are only 2 of them. And neither is "mark 1" and up. - signed 2602:306:3ae4:ad20:90ca:54c3:8bb7:286f
I've found a couple of sites that says that the FT-1 concept was scrapped due to a BMW-Toyota partnership for the Supra.
http://www.motoring.com.au/more-details-of-toyota-supra-successor-emerge-52647/ https://artofgears.com/2015/07/22/2017-toyota-supra-may-have-470-hp-ditching-ft-1-concept-exterior/
It maybe just rumours right now that the FT-1 design will not be used but, there is still uncertainty on whether or not the FT-1 is really the proposed design for the Supra. Grigrass ( talk) 14:54, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Is this many really necessary? The 5M and 7m engines are direct descendants of the 2000GT's power plant. There needs to be no citation from my perspective. There's a tag on the fact that all supra's have inline 6 engines. The whole Supra gimmick comes from being a Celica with an inline 6. That's Supra. Someone went crazy with the [citation needed] tags. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.57.18.99 ( talk) 12:03, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
The J90 N.America version is expected to sell for US$49,990 (entry model), US$53,990 (premium model) or US$55,250 (Launch Edition) acording to https://www.motor1.com/news/300919/2020-toyota-supra-pricing-us/ . Or US$50,920 (entry model), US$54,920 (premium model) or US$56,180 (Launch Edition) according to https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-toyota-supra-priced-starting-at-50920/ . Don't you just love how the magazines agree with their facts copied from Toyota. Both references are in the article. Stepho talk 20:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Does it say it's obsolete? It would be better if you mind your business and improve your English as you're on the English Wiki. U1 quattro TALK 00:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The current Supra is manufactured by BMW. This can be confirmed by the data plate and VIN of all new Supras, which say “manufactured by Bavarian Motor Werke” and have a BMW “Z” in the vin certification and no Toyota “T” to be found. The info box and opening line needs to correctly state that this car is not manufactured by Toyota presently and is instead a BMW. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:4201:BBE3:343D:3795:E5DA:3798 ( talk) 20:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Right here. Read it and weep. That data plate is the official vehicle certification. It is not manufactured by Toyota. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-vs-its-competition/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:4400:144D:C412:5181:CABF:12DA ( talk) 05:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
I just thought you'd like to know. -- 129.106.31.181 ( talk) 15:12, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
The fifth generation Supra is marketed as the GR Supra in the United States and Canada, and just simply Supra everywhere else in the world. Just thought I should put that out there. I find it bizarre that it is not mentioned in the section. Eightsixofakina ( talk) 01:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I've just learned that the Supra is also called GR Supra in the UK, not just USA and Canada. I've added it in. Eightsixofakina ( talk) 21:17, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
The affection towards the A80 in this article is very strong which goes against the WP: NPOV policy. This is an informative article, it wasn't created to please the fans of the A80 and the like. The constant tries to get the image of the A80 in the main infobox highlights this bias. U1 quattro TALK 01:07, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I have just noticed the Toyota Supra (J29/DB) article. It is practically identical to the J29/DB section of the Toyota Supra article. I suspect it was copied from an earlier version. It is patently stupid to maintain practically identical copies in parallel. So I'm asking the community if they prefer to keep all the Supra information in this one large article (with the J29/DB being changed into a redirect to here) or to split the large article into separate, generational articles with simple summaries left here? My preference is to split it. Stepho talk 21:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
From my research the 1983 Toyota Celica supra, early 83 speedometer was the 85 later 83 model year it was switched to the 130 mph speedometer. KingCoolRobert ( talk) 17:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)