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I have some information regarding Toyota SUVs and trucks built in Japan and maybe other parts of Asia (possibly Europe as well but at this time I do not think so). I posted it as an update on the Toyota Land Cruiser article as well as other Toyota articles. I probably rushed to fast and I received feedback from some users regarding this. I probably should have looked for solid references (as was advised in the feedback). I do believe that at least some of the main points in my edit are fact and I do admit that some of it contains future speculation as well.
I invite all interested users to debate my proposed edit on these discussion pages to determine what parts of my edit (if any) should be posted on the official article. The information that is in my proposed post are things that potential customers of these products deserve to know.
Here is a draft of my proposed edit (that was posted on the Land Cruiser article as well as some other articles relating to Toyota SUVs and Trucks and then removed pending online debate):
--
Toyota SUV’s and trucks (built in Japan and maybe other parts of Asia as well) including the Land Cruiser and 4Runner as well as others are used by Osama Bin Laden’s illegal Al Qaeda terrorist army and their Taliban partners. In the United States this is becoming controversial because Americans who buy these vehicles can be seen as extremely unpatriotic and honoring the enemy. As a result, these products might get vandalized in many different ways including spray paint, scratching, damaging lights, windows, etc. This will probably cause insurance premiums to increase in significant ways making these vehicles much more expensive to own and drive. Passions will most likely increase later in 2006 as the 5th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks approaches. There are also 2 movies about 9/11 that are planned for release in theaters in 2006. After this time the possibility of these vehicles being vandalized might increase (especially ones built after the 2006 model year) as their American owners might be viewed as being extremely unpatriotic and honoring the enemy of America and showing absolutely no respect for America. If this results in big insurance rate increases, the owners of these vehicles will be spending a lot more money to own and drive them.
(End of proposed draft edit)
As mentioned in this article I have information regarding these vehicles being used by Al-Qaeda and the Taliban on the battlefield in the same way that the Jeep was used by America and its allies against Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire in World War 2. I have watched several news reports on news networks such as CNN, BBC, CBS, NBC, as well as others regarding Al-Qaeda and I have spotted these vehicles on these news reports many times (especially as the war on terror was first starting) including the Toyota Land Cruiser. Land Cruisers are easy to recognize. And I also saw what appear to be Toyota markings on many of these vehicles. I believe that this is something that people (especially potential customers for these vehicles) should know. I invite all interested users to join this debate and share any information you all might have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlossantos2004 ( talk • contribs) 21:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
The use of a vehicle by any particular user or groups of users, and scaremongering of this nature are not particularly pertinent to a page detailing the history of the vehicle.
Additionally to single out any single group is of no significance if it is not looked at in context. Many other groups in such regions also use these vehicles, the UN itself for one, and countless other individuals unaffiliated to any organizations who simply live and work in conditions which make these vehicles useful and desirable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morr ( talk • contribs) 20:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The Toyota 4Runner and Toyota Hilux Surf are the same vehicle with different names for different markets. Both articles cover similar information. If there is no objection over the next week, I can merge them into a single article. Stepho-wrs ( talk) 00:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
== Hilux Surf == {{Main|Hilux Surf}} Info blerb...
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I propose that Toyota Hilux Surf be merged into Toyota 4Runner. I think that the content in the Hilux Surf article can easily be explained in the context of 4Runner, and the 4Runner article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Hilux Surf will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned.
Hilux Surf is simply the Japanese marketing name for what is sold internationally as the 4Runner. There are no material differences between these cars. OSX ( talk • contributions) 03:20, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Even at first glance it is clear the page ( Toyota 4runner) contains various spelling mistakes, missing links and is generally poorly written. I myself do not usally create pages so I'm not an expert but it is very clear the page was written by someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Ive corrected a few mistakes but will leave the rest for someone else. yesilikecars ( talk) 02:59., 08 October 2012 (UTC)
The following has been added a few times by what appears to be unhappy 4Runner owners as anon IP.
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I have removed it each time because it is more about a personal complaint with the company rather than a fact that we can verify. If these editors wish to keep it then they need to provide a reliable reference. If the problem is as big as they say it is then surely one of the magazines or at least some newspapers will have a story on it. Stepho talk 05:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
It appears that many/most vehicle pages on here (see Dodge Durango, for one) utilize the official model years to subdivide the generations of vehicles. That approach makes sense to me because any other resource for researching vehicles (fueleconomy.gov, autotrader.com, etc.) all use model year as well. Is there any reason why this article uses production years instead?
(I ask because I happen to be researching 4Runners myself right now, and that particular aspect of this article threw me off.) Antessima ( talk) 18:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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In the section of the Toyota Trekker, predecessor to the Toyota 4Runner, I would like to add an image. I found the image off Google and was going to add it, but became worried of issues related to copyright and if I would catch trouble. The site it was taken from is: " http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/Toyota/Trekker/Trekker.htm" The image link is: http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/Toyota/Trekker/Images/rdunntrekker4.jpg I downloaded it, but have no clue how to add it or if its even OK to add it :/ I intend to cause no issue and would like some advice from expert Wikipedians, Ty :) Ivan Zarco ( talk) 11:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Ivan Zarco
There's a discussion of the source carsalesbase.com at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Carsalesbase.com. — Dennis Bratland ( talk) 00:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Up until this morning I had been exhaustively searching for sales figures for the missing years - 1984 - 1993. I e-mailed Toyota Corporate and traded emails with someone from Public Affairs who quickly provided me an export from their Motor Intelligence database. I have updated the sales numbers appropriately. What is missing is the citation (if needed) - might need help formatting that.
Secondly - now the US Sales Chart is rather long and unwieldy. I have my own excel file that I maintain - I might try to recreate that to insert here. TurboManiacal ( talk) 18:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Calendar Year | US - 1st Gen | Calendar Year | US - 2nd Gen | Calendar Year | US - 3rd Gen | Calendar Year | US - 4th Gen | Calendar Year | US - 5th Gen |
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1984 | 6,498 | 1990 | 48,295 | 1996 | 99,597 | 2003 | 109,308 | 2010 | 46,531 |
1985 | 5,495 | 1991 | 44,879 | 1997 | 128,496 | 2004 | 114,212 | 2011 | 44,316 |
1986 | 5,564 | 1992 | 39,917 | 1998 | 118,484 | 2005 | 103,830 | 2012 | 48,755 |
1987 | 3,635 | 1993 | 46,652 | 1999 | 124,221 | 2006 | 103,086 | 2013 | 51,625 |
1988 | 20,880 | 1994 | 74,109 | 2000 | 111,797 | 2007 | 87,718 | 2014 | 76,906 |
1989 | 36,927 | 1995 | 75,962 | 2001 | 90,250 | 2008 | 47,878 | 2015 | 97,034 |
2002 | 77,026 | 2009 | 19,675 | 2016 | 111,970 | ||||
2017 | 128,296 | ||||||||
2018 | 139,694 | ||||||||
2019 | 131,864 |
Something Like this? TurboManiacal ( talk) 18:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
...or this? TurboManiacal ( talk) 18:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Calendar Year | US - Sales | Canada - Sales | Australia - Sales | European - Sales | Japan - Sales |
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1984 | |||||
2019 |
Calendar Year | US | Canada | Australia | European | Japan |
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1984 | |||||
1999 |
Calendar Year | US | Canada | Australia | European | Japan |
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2020 | |||||
2019 |
Its been 15 YEARS since the 5th generation released! Now we have a 6th generation at last! 172.103.254.229 ( talk) 00:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Can anyone add the picture of the new 4Runner Tech and Car Savvy ( talk) 15:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
https://www.motor1.com/news/715526/2025-toyota-4runner-horsepower-specs-details/ take a screenshot of the car, upload it on Wikimedia commons and put it on the 6th gen if you can 50.194.156.161 ( talk) 18:45, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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I have some information regarding Toyota SUVs and trucks built in Japan and maybe other parts of Asia (possibly Europe as well but at this time I do not think so). I posted it as an update on the Toyota Land Cruiser article as well as other Toyota articles. I probably rushed to fast and I received feedback from some users regarding this. I probably should have looked for solid references (as was advised in the feedback). I do believe that at least some of the main points in my edit are fact and I do admit that some of it contains future speculation as well.
I invite all interested users to debate my proposed edit on these discussion pages to determine what parts of my edit (if any) should be posted on the official article. The information that is in my proposed post are things that potential customers of these products deserve to know.
Here is a draft of my proposed edit (that was posted on the Land Cruiser article as well as some other articles relating to Toyota SUVs and Trucks and then removed pending online debate):
--
Toyota SUV’s and trucks (built in Japan and maybe other parts of Asia as well) including the Land Cruiser and 4Runner as well as others are used by Osama Bin Laden’s illegal Al Qaeda terrorist army and their Taliban partners. In the United States this is becoming controversial because Americans who buy these vehicles can be seen as extremely unpatriotic and honoring the enemy. As a result, these products might get vandalized in many different ways including spray paint, scratching, damaging lights, windows, etc. This will probably cause insurance premiums to increase in significant ways making these vehicles much more expensive to own and drive. Passions will most likely increase later in 2006 as the 5th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks approaches. There are also 2 movies about 9/11 that are planned for release in theaters in 2006. After this time the possibility of these vehicles being vandalized might increase (especially ones built after the 2006 model year) as their American owners might be viewed as being extremely unpatriotic and honoring the enemy of America and showing absolutely no respect for America. If this results in big insurance rate increases, the owners of these vehicles will be spending a lot more money to own and drive them.
(End of proposed draft edit)
As mentioned in this article I have information regarding these vehicles being used by Al-Qaeda and the Taliban on the battlefield in the same way that the Jeep was used by America and its allies against Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire in World War 2. I have watched several news reports on news networks such as CNN, BBC, CBS, NBC, as well as others regarding Al-Qaeda and I have spotted these vehicles on these news reports many times (especially as the war on terror was first starting) including the Toyota Land Cruiser. Land Cruisers are easy to recognize. And I also saw what appear to be Toyota markings on many of these vehicles. I believe that this is something that people (especially potential customers for these vehicles) should know. I invite all interested users to join this debate and share any information you all might have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlossantos2004 ( talk • contribs) 21:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
The use of a vehicle by any particular user or groups of users, and scaremongering of this nature are not particularly pertinent to a page detailing the history of the vehicle.
Additionally to single out any single group is of no significance if it is not looked at in context. Many other groups in such regions also use these vehicles, the UN itself for one, and countless other individuals unaffiliated to any organizations who simply live and work in conditions which make these vehicles useful and desirable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morr ( talk • contribs) 20:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The Toyota 4Runner and Toyota Hilux Surf are the same vehicle with different names for different markets. Both articles cover similar information. If there is no objection over the next week, I can merge them into a single article. Stepho-wrs ( talk) 00:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
== Hilux Surf == {{Main|Hilux Surf}} Info blerb...
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I propose that Toyota Hilux Surf be merged into Toyota 4Runner. I think that the content in the Hilux Surf article can easily be explained in the context of 4Runner, and the 4Runner article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Hilux Surf will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned.
Hilux Surf is simply the Japanese marketing name for what is sold internationally as the 4Runner. There are no material differences between these cars. OSX ( talk • contributions) 03:20, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Even at first glance it is clear the page ( Toyota 4runner) contains various spelling mistakes, missing links and is generally poorly written. I myself do not usally create pages so I'm not an expert but it is very clear the page was written by someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Ive corrected a few mistakes but will leave the rest for someone else. yesilikecars ( talk) 02:59., 08 October 2012 (UTC)
The following has been added a few times by what appears to be unhappy 4Runner owners as anon IP.
{{
cn}}
{{
cn}}
I have removed it each time because it is more about a personal complaint with the company rather than a fact that we can verify. If these editors wish to keep it then they need to provide a reliable reference. If the problem is as big as they say it is then surely one of the magazines or at least some newspapers will have a story on it. Stepho talk 05:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
It appears that many/most vehicle pages on here (see Dodge Durango, for one) utilize the official model years to subdivide the generations of vehicles. That approach makes sense to me because any other resource for researching vehicles (fueleconomy.gov, autotrader.com, etc.) all use model year as well. Is there any reason why this article uses production years instead?
(I ask because I happen to be researching 4Runners myself right now, and that particular aspect of this article threw me off.) Antessima ( talk) 18:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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In the section of the Toyota Trekker, predecessor to the Toyota 4Runner, I would like to add an image. I found the image off Google and was going to add it, but became worried of issues related to copyright and if I would catch trouble. The site it was taken from is: " http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/Toyota/Trekker/Trekker.htm" The image link is: http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/Toyota/Trekker/Images/rdunntrekker4.jpg I downloaded it, but have no clue how to add it or if its even OK to add it :/ I intend to cause no issue and would like some advice from expert Wikipedians, Ty :) Ivan Zarco ( talk) 11:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Ivan Zarco
There's a discussion of the source carsalesbase.com at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Carsalesbase.com. — Dennis Bratland ( talk) 00:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Up until this morning I had been exhaustively searching for sales figures for the missing years - 1984 - 1993. I e-mailed Toyota Corporate and traded emails with someone from Public Affairs who quickly provided me an export from their Motor Intelligence database. I have updated the sales numbers appropriately. What is missing is the citation (if needed) - might need help formatting that.
Secondly - now the US Sales Chart is rather long and unwieldy. I have my own excel file that I maintain - I might try to recreate that to insert here. TurboManiacal ( talk) 18:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Calendar Year | US - 1st Gen | Calendar Year | US - 2nd Gen | Calendar Year | US - 3rd Gen | Calendar Year | US - 4th Gen | Calendar Year | US - 5th Gen |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1984 | 6,498 | 1990 | 48,295 | 1996 | 99,597 | 2003 | 109,308 | 2010 | 46,531 |
1985 | 5,495 | 1991 | 44,879 | 1997 | 128,496 | 2004 | 114,212 | 2011 | 44,316 |
1986 | 5,564 | 1992 | 39,917 | 1998 | 118,484 | 2005 | 103,830 | 2012 | 48,755 |
1987 | 3,635 | 1993 | 46,652 | 1999 | 124,221 | 2006 | 103,086 | 2013 | 51,625 |
1988 | 20,880 | 1994 | 74,109 | 2000 | 111,797 | 2007 | 87,718 | 2014 | 76,906 |
1989 | 36,927 | 1995 | 75,962 | 2001 | 90,250 | 2008 | 47,878 | 2015 | 97,034 |
2002 | 77,026 | 2009 | 19,675 | 2016 | 111,970 | ||||
2017 | 128,296 | ||||||||
2018 | 139,694 | ||||||||
2019 | 131,864 |
Something Like this? TurboManiacal ( talk) 18:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
...or this? TurboManiacal ( talk) 18:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Calendar Year | US - Sales | Canada - Sales | Australia - Sales | European - Sales | Japan - Sales |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1984 | |||||
2019 |
Calendar Year | US | Canada | Australia | European | Japan |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1984 | |||||
1999 |
Calendar Year | US | Canada | Australia | European | Japan |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
2020 | |||||
2019 |
Its been 15 YEARS since the 5th generation released! Now we have a 6th generation at last! 172.103.254.229 ( talk) 00:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Can anyone add the picture of the new 4Runner Tech and Car Savvy ( talk) 15:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
https://www.motor1.com/news/715526/2025-toyota-4runner-horsepower-specs-details/ take a screenshot of the car, upload it on Wikimedia commons and put it on the 6th gen if you can 50.194.156.161 ( talk) 18:45, 6 June 2024 (UTC)