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Why was the old image removed? I know it was deemed 'fair use', but this one has no identifying info at all. Quill 21:50, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Added a great deal of new info.-- Venerable Bede 00:43, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Quill, I responded to your question on my talk page -- Venerable Bede 22:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I have never read or heard of Mifune becoming fluent in English. Indeed he used an interpreter for his English language interviews all his life.
As to the specific films mentioned here are the quotes directly from Galbraith's marvelous book on Kurosawa and Mifune.
Hope this helps make the changes made understandable. MarnetteD | Talk 17:29, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
MarnetteD-
Galbraiths book is crap, pure and simple. His book goes into excessive and useless trivia about many of Kurosawa's and Mifune's collaborations, and includes virtually no relevant information on Kurosawa and Mifune the Men. This book is all filler and nothing else, and borderline plagiarism - Galbraith's book is nothing more than an extensive filmography as well as plot summations and production notes. Virtually nothing substantive is given regarding Kurosawa and Mifune, nor their relationship. I bought it, and returned it.
And Galbraith doesn't even speak Japanese!
However, I will leave your addition of that sorry excuse for a "biography" in the "Further Reading" section only because of the scarcity of english texts regarding Mifune. -- Venerable Bede 00:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Above assessment of book seems not very wiki NPOV — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.228.33.237 ( talk) 04:00, 2005 April 22 (UTC)
In the article, it says that he had "Japanese parents of mixed descent." What does that mean, exactly? Were his parents Japanese/Chinese, Japanese/White American, Japanese/White European, Japanese/Filipino or what? The details should be clarified, at least in my humble opinion.
It must have been a mistake or something. Mifune was just of Japanese heritage. User: Le Anh-Huy.
~Kurt ChildeRolandofGilead 04:26, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Is there a source for this assertion? This would seem open to debate. (Note: this phrase also appears on a disambiguation page.) Cleduc 04:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm not getting involved in the revert war, but I initially removed it because a)it is POV, b)it needs citation c)it probably isn't true inside Japan (so needs qualifying) d)adds nothing to the article (if you've already heard of him it's pointless, if you haven't it might add the lie to him being the most famous Japanese actor) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yomangani ( talk • contribs) 10:32, 2006 July 8 (UTC)
Why does it end in 1963? Uucp 17:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
i deleted part of a sentence that said Kurosawa made derisive comments about Shogun "perhaps because, at that time, none of the films he had created without Mifune had made much impact with American audiences." This sort of statement needs a citation. So, too, does the statement that he spoke ill of Shogun. 23skidoo 17:07, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
According to the summary Patrick Schwemmer moved Mifune on April 13 [1] (Rationale: moved Toshiro Mifune to Toshirō Mifune over redirect: I feel the distinction between long and short vowels is crucial in Japanese, and English article titles should reflect this difference.). I moved it back today :) WhisperToMe 06:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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There is a section about Mifune-san in the DVD extras for Picture Bride (film) in which the director Kayo Hatta states that his illness was not evident during filming, and that he suffered from Parkinson's disease. That might be a good source for clean up. Srain ( talk) 10:20, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles#Names of modern figures -- JHunterJ ( talk) 19:35, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Toshirō Mifune → Toshiro Mifune – The person's official website calls him "Toshiro Mifune". As far as I have been able to substantiate, a macron was never used on the romanized version of his name in film credits, film posters, or other promotional material. By the rule of the Manual of Style for Japan-related articles, Use the form personally or professionally used by the person, if available in the English/Latin alphabet and by common convention, this article should be titled "Toshiro Mifune". JoshuSasori ( talk) 01:12, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ToshiroMifune
"And it should be noted Mifune was a devout Methodist. Real Men Love Jesus, indeed."
Where is the original source of information? 220.104.44.218 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
The grave of Toshiro Mifune is a Buddhism type. Is he a believer of Methodist?
I investigated Religion of Mifune on a website of Japan. However, there is no source of information that he is Methodist. 220.96.4.14 ( talk) 14:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Toshiro Mifune was a Christian. He married in January 1950 at the Aoyama Gakuin Methodist Church. His marriage photos are available online. His marriage was held in a church as per Christian Tradition. [1] https://www.flickr.com/photos/bampfa/34925494740 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.213.70 ( talk) 11:24, 6 January 2018 (UTC) All Nice and well about him marrying Christian, but he hasn't got a Christian grave. Either he lost his faith, married Christian to please his parents that maybe were still living, or somebody else decided on matters of his grave. But born christian and married Christian is no proof for being Christian through all of adulthood. 178.232.27.248 ( talk) 09:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
The testimony of the son(takeshi) of Mifune. toshiro mifune is not religious(無宗教/mushukyou).
http://nishimovie.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-93.html
mifune toshiro was active as an Billboard of Soka Gakkai(Buddhism). However, mifune is it in testimony when faith was not deep.
The Western source of information changes Mifune to pious Methodist. 219.160.56.236 ( talk) 06:59, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Yoshimine's parents were strongly opposed to the union. Mifune was doubly an outsider, being a non- Buddhist as well as a native Manchurian. His choice of profession also made him suspect, as actors were generally assumed to be irresponsible and financially incapable of supporting a family.
The Western information changes mifune into anti-Buddhism. Please submit a source of information. 219.160.56.236 ( talk) 07:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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He also portrayed Miyamoto Musashi in Hiroshi Inagaki's Samurai Trilogy and one earlier Inagaki film, Lord Toranaga in the NBC television miniseries Shōgun, and Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto in three different films.
The reader is strongly impelled to first read Lord Toranaga as an appositive providing the withheld title of "one earlier film". Probably a colon–semicolon structure would serve better. Or maybe this sentence really should be less informal all around, so I'll leave this for the next editor. — MaxEnt 22:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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Alot of the extra info is overkill and walks a razor's edge of being fancruft. The "Release date" column can just be restricted to the year the films/shows were released. There doesn't need to be a column for category and country. The Japanese writing for character names do not need to be listed since there are only two links to Japanese articles. If linking to the Japanese director articles are important then they can be linked like this: Kiyoshi Saeki, same goes for the two Japanese articles for characters. If need be, the Japanese titles of films can have their own column. No source is provided for the alternative titles for films, so those can be outright removed. Repeated content in the Notes column needs to be removed such as "Sanjūrō [2] (三十郎)" and other similar content. Armegon ( talk) 22:04, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
In the chapter "early life" the quote "and Kimiko married a Japanese-American living in Hawaii." is given without any prior explanation who Kimiko is. I will delete that quote until somebody provides sufficient explanation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.136.196.187 ( talk) 09:20, 2021 July 6 (UTC)
"Yet Kurosawa did not rejoice in his estranged friend's success, and publicly made derisive remarks about Shogun." The article linked in the notes does not support this "emotional" interpretation of Kurosawa's reaction to Shogun. Kurosawa simply observed a lack of historical accuracy and did not mention Mifune. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:a61:aa0:3201:5868:74cd:1636:70fd ( talk) 07:07, 2023 March 9 (UTC)
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Why was the old image removed? I know it was deemed 'fair use', but this one has no identifying info at all. Quill 21:50, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Added a great deal of new info.-- Venerable Bede 00:43, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Quill, I responded to your question on my talk page -- Venerable Bede 22:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I have never read or heard of Mifune becoming fluent in English. Indeed he used an interpreter for his English language interviews all his life.
As to the specific films mentioned here are the quotes directly from Galbraith's marvelous book on Kurosawa and Mifune.
Hope this helps make the changes made understandable. MarnetteD | Talk 17:29, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
MarnetteD-
Galbraiths book is crap, pure and simple. His book goes into excessive and useless trivia about many of Kurosawa's and Mifune's collaborations, and includes virtually no relevant information on Kurosawa and Mifune the Men. This book is all filler and nothing else, and borderline plagiarism - Galbraith's book is nothing more than an extensive filmography as well as plot summations and production notes. Virtually nothing substantive is given regarding Kurosawa and Mifune, nor their relationship. I bought it, and returned it.
And Galbraith doesn't even speak Japanese!
However, I will leave your addition of that sorry excuse for a "biography" in the "Further Reading" section only because of the scarcity of english texts regarding Mifune. -- Venerable Bede 00:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Above assessment of book seems not very wiki NPOV — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.228.33.237 ( talk) 04:00, 2005 April 22 (UTC)
In the article, it says that he had "Japanese parents of mixed descent." What does that mean, exactly? Were his parents Japanese/Chinese, Japanese/White American, Japanese/White European, Japanese/Filipino or what? The details should be clarified, at least in my humble opinion.
It must have been a mistake or something. Mifune was just of Japanese heritage. User: Le Anh-Huy.
~Kurt ChildeRolandofGilead 04:26, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Is there a source for this assertion? This would seem open to debate. (Note: this phrase also appears on a disambiguation page.) Cleduc 04:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm not getting involved in the revert war, but I initially removed it because a)it is POV, b)it needs citation c)it probably isn't true inside Japan (so needs qualifying) d)adds nothing to the article (if you've already heard of him it's pointless, if you haven't it might add the lie to him being the most famous Japanese actor) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yomangani ( talk • contribs) 10:32, 2006 July 8 (UTC)
Why does it end in 1963? Uucp 17:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
i deleted part of a sentence that said Kurosawa made derisive comments about Shogun "perhaps because, at that time, none of the films he had created without Mifune had made much impact with American audiences." This sort of statement needs a citation. So, too, does the statement that he spoke ill of Shogun. 23skidoo 17:07, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
According to the summary Patrick Schwemmer moved Mifune on April 13 [1] (Rationale: moved Toshiro Mifune to Toshirō Mifune over redirect: I feel the distinction between long and short vowels is crucial in Japanese, and English article titles should reflect this difference.). I moved it back today :) WhisperToMe 06:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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There is a section about Mifune-san in the DVD extras for Picture Bride (film) in which the director Kayo Hatta states that his illness was not evident during filming, and that he suffered from Parkinson's disease. That might be a good source for clean up. Srain ( talk) 10:20, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles#Names of modern figures -- JHunterJ ( talk) 19:35, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Toshirō Mifune → Toshiro Mifune – The person's official website calls him "Toshiro Mifune". As far as I have been able to substantiate, a macron was never used on the romanized version of his name in film credits, film posters, or other promotional material. By the rule of the Manual of Style for Japan-related articles, Use the form personally or professionally used by the person, if available in the English/Latin alphabet and by common convention, this article should be titled "Toshiro Mifune". JoshuSasori ( talk) 01:12, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ToshiroMifune
"And it should be noted Mifune was a devout Methodist. Real Men Love Jesus, indeed."
Where is the original source of information? 220.104.44.218 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
The grave of Toshiro Mifune is a Buddhism type. Is he a believer of Methodist?
I investigated Religion of Mifune on a website of Japan. However, there is no source of information that he is Methodist. 220.96.4.14 ( talk) 14:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Toshiro Mifune was a Christian. He married in January 1950 at the Aoyama Gakuin Methodist Church. His marriage photos are available online. His marriage was held in a church as per Christian Tradition. [1] https://www.flickr.com/photos/bampfa/34925494740 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.213.70 ( talk) 11:24, 6 January 2018 (UTC) All Nice and well about him marrying Christian, but he hasn't got a Christian grave. Either he lost his faith, married Christian to please his parents that maybe were still living, or somebody else decided on matters of his grave. But born christian and married Christian is no proof for being Christian through all of adulthood. 178.232.27.248 ( talk) 09:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
The testimony of the son(takeshi) of Mifune. toshiro mifune is not religious(無宗教/mushukyou).
http://nishimovie.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-93.html
mifune toshiro was active as an Billboard of Soka Gakkai(Buddhism). However, mifune is it in testimony when faith was not deep.
The Western source of information changes Mifune to pious Methodist. 219.160.56.236 ( talk) 06:59, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Yoshimine's parents were strongly opposed to the union. Mifune was doubly an outsider, being a non- Buddhist as well as a native Manchurian. His choice of profession also made him suspect, as actors were generally assumed to be irresponsible and financially incapable of supporting a family.
The Western information changes mifune into anti-Buddhism. Please submit a source of information. 219.160.56.236 ( talk) 07:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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He also portrayed Miyamoto Musashi in Hiroshi Inagaki's Samurai Trilogy and one earlier Inagaki film, Lord Toranaga in the NBC television miniseries Shōgun, and Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto in three different films.
The reader is strongly impelled to first read Lord Toranaga as an appositive providing the withheld title of "one earlier film". Probably a colon–semicolon structure would serve better. Or maybe this sentence really should be less informal all around, so I'll leave this for the next editor. — MaxEnt 22:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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Alot of the extra info is overkill and walks a razor's edge of being fancruft. The "Release date" column can just be restricted to the year the films/shows were released. There doesn't need to be a column for category and country. The Japanese writing for character names do not need to be listed since there are only two links to Japanese articles. If linking to the Japanese director articles are important then they can be linked like this: Kiyoshi Saeki, same goes for the two Japanese articles for characters. If need be, the Japanese titles of films can have their own column. No source is provided for the alternative titles for films, so those can be outright removed. Repeated content in the Notes column needs to be removed such as "Sanjūrō [2] (三十郎)" and other similar content. Armegon ( talk) 22:04, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
In the chapter "early life" the quote "and Kimiko married a Japanese-American living in Hawaii." is given without any prior explanation who Kimiko is. I will delete that quote until somebody provides sufficient explanation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.136.196.187 ( talk) 09:20, 2021 July 6 (UTC)
"Yet Kurosawa did not rejoice in his estranged friend's success, and publicly made derisive remarks about Shogun." The article linked in the notes does not support this "emotional" interpretation of Kurosawa's reaction to Shogun. Kurosawa simply observed a lack of historical accuracy and did not mention Mifune. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:a61:aa0:3201:5868:74cd:1636:70fd ( talk) 07:07, 2023 March 9 (UTC)